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Very well done again! Your analytical and procedural style is a great source for flight sim beginners wanting to learn more about modern aviation. I just started an OnAir Career a few weeks ago. In Conjunction with Navigraph and your explanations it is a joy to fly AND understand how to fly properly and using the tools available. By the way - your landing was very interesting - especially the part about crosswind landing. Maybe you can do a tutorial about that topic in the future, too? I'd like to practice that.
About doing a video on crosswind landings. Yes. I'm doing another approach video today or tomorrow because someone asked me to then I'm going to start more basic videos and teach stuff I would have taught in a first fight lesson and beyond. I keep thinking I'm going to run out of ideas but by the time I finish the next video, three more ideas come to mind.
Outstanding!!! You used Flight Mode Annunciator 😀 rather than slang score board! another point you stated verify what you selected on the flight control panel with what you saw on the FMA😀 You briefed the approach plate and explained the procedure, and the exception of how and when to arm the approach mode! In the FS2020 You did a great job with this video, You are a mentor for other pilots aspiring to being professional pilots so please continue to use proper phraseology. There were a few other points you made that were really good! I just can’t recall right this moment. Keep up the outstanding Videos. You are catching on. 😀🛫
Thanks so much. FMA is in there because of you. I was at unnamed training company for recurrent a month ago and they called it the scoreboard constantly. It drove me nuts. And checking the FMA after something is pressed on the FDCP, it's the time in real life we've all not done so that make us remember now. I'm just trying to keep it real and to show people this is easy when done correctly.
Thanks. I was confused by the state of the glide slope indicator at times. Good to know it is a bug that will no doubt be fixed one day. I’ve yet to get RNAV approaches working in the CJ4 but will try this approach out to see how it goes.
RNAV approaches are the best thing ever created. At first, I thought there were more difficult so always tried to do ILS approaches. Than I realized my mistake. ;)
Here is a more recent video on RNAV approaches if you would like to see more examples. The linked video is in the Longitude, but everything is similar once the approach is loaded. th-cam.com/video/fPdFzXSrfjY/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for a very useful tutorial. Just one thing which I picked up somewhere, but I didn't notice you include and that is that to hold your pitch at it's current value (say 5degrees), press the "FD" button. Hope this helps. Cheers, Richard.
@@thecorporatepilotdad one follow up question. That final crosswind aileron and rudder correction were done by you, correct? Or was it performed by the autopilot?
@@thecorporatepilotdad sorry, another: at what point does the pilot take over from the autopilot? And is it necessary to disengage the autopilot at that moment, or just take over the controls?
@@tfisher There is no set time when the pilot takes over. Most APs in real life have limitations on minimum altitudes depending on the type of approach or enroute operations. On a visual approach I will hand fly (in real life) anywhere from below 10,000 feet altitude or leave it on until a few miles from the airport. It depends on familiarity with the area, or how much traffic there is in the area. On an approach like the one in the video, usually when I see the airport the AP is turned off.
Holy Moly, raining against windshield, no visibility until the last minute. I thought, is this a missed approach video? TCPD calls out '100', nuthin' in sight! What's he gonna do? Brilliant instruction and definitely professional pilot. Thank you!
There is a video where I do an RNAV approach in the Longitude that's even lower but I still land and if it were in real life it would be legal. I thought that video was going to be a missed approach because I set the weather down and thought I would also be talking about doing a missed approach and the sim wasn't ready for that yet. I would have had to redo the whole thing. It worked out really well.
Thank you. Been out of civilian flight sims for a while. Love the newer glass cockpits. Trying to learn to do things more or less correctly. Tricky to do when FS doesn't give you all the right tools like charts, and in VR I can't look over at my laptop. Also tricky finding actual instructional videos. And of course they don't teach things in the correct order.
Navigraph has a chart service that uses Jepps. The CJ4 WTM has charts on the MFD but I do believe navigraph is required for them to work. That is one option for getting charts in VR.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Currently VFR for VR is what I use. Not bad, even provides taxi chart for most airports. What it doesn't provide is full details for airports like navair.com, not sure if I typed that accurately. But much of that is over my head anyway, as yet. But trying to move on from just being in the air to doing basics the correct way. Entering holding patterns correctly and that sort, then instrument landing. Learning in the correct order is the trick, and getting things out of order probably discourages a lot of people. Probably never fly for real, as that's just to expensive. But this is the next best thing and I like learning these things. Even if the sim doesn't care if I do it right. If I can land on a carrier in DCS, I can learn to do this.
@@icecold9511 Unfortunately, real flying has become very expensive. However, it's much cheaper to play FS2020 and what a great sim to fly around in with this amazing scenery. There is a video on my channel about holds that is very in depth along with about every type of instrument approach you can imagine.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I've already favorited you. I'm trying to approach them carefully and learn the right stuff before going to far. Holding patterns early. I just tried to line up on 23 in Naples fl, when I was told 14. Got disoriented there. And found out my in sim vfr vr map had Naples wrong. Taxi way c and b were reversed. Curious if VOR is much in use. Someone elsewhere had said it is fading as VOR goes into disuse and becons fail. Had planned to try it instead of GPS, but the airports I looked at had no VOR.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Oh. If you haven't tried this in VR, it is addicting. I even set keys so I could move freely in the Cessna, sit in the back, copilot, anything.
Great tutorial once again. Quick question: instead of using vertical speed/nose down couldnt you have activated the vnav? Or do the altitudes have to be set initially at the way points then for the vnav to work? Cheers
If VNAV worked on this airplane and other default airplanes, then VNAV would have been used. The Garmin G1000 NXi has working VNAV the last I heard as does the CJ4 Working Title mod. The NXi is available in the marketplace.
I've done flight sim for almost 28 years, but I've never done an RNAV approach, mainly just ILS approaches. A related question: Have waypoints, such as DWURF, JUGGY and DANDY, only been around since GPS came out in the '80s? Thanks for this educational video! Now I can do an RNAV approach!
New waypoints can be added on approaches when they are developed. DANDY is also a fix on the ILS runway 6 at TEB. ILS approaches are great, but RNAV approaches are everywhere and becoming more commonly used in some places over an ILS. If the airplane can do LPV approaches (lower minimums for aircraft equipped with WAAS) lower minimums equal to an ILS can be used (usually 200 feet AGL). Glad you liked the video. Thanks for checking it out and thanks for the question.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks for the reply and info. When I do flight sim, I like to be as realistic as possible. And since RNAV is more common in places, it's at the top of my list to learn. Thanks again for the video.
You are welcome. The highlight boxes help so much. Nothing is missed while looking around for what is being talked about. It really helps in the learning process.
I have more types of approaches coming. Something very cool and exciting is coming to the approach tutorial videos. There will be a video coming out in a few days. Stay tuned.
Thanks for a great tutorial. Former VFR taildragger (Luscombe 8E) pilot here working to regain my virtual wings. Been starting to practice RNAV approaches but your tutorial filled in a lot of gaps in my knowledge. Excellent job!
@@robertcorbett2695 I haven't instructed in 15 years but I do fly professionally. I try to keep the same standard in my videos as when I instructed. Glad you found them helpful. There are many tutorials out there by gamers and they miss a lot. However, for not having any experience some do a decent job.
That is why this channel is here. Trying my best to make aviation easy without taking 90 minutes to explain a procedure that can be done in 10 minutes.
Great video, I don't know where you find the time to do these very informative videos. I was looking for your RNAV tutorial for this subject in the CRJ4 Citation. Do you have this as I thought you did or am I mistaken since the Proline Colins is so different than the G1000. Thanks
The PL21 is different that the G1000 but the concept is the same. I have videos on VNAV and ILS approaches in the CJ4. Select APPR and VNAV for RNAV approaches in the CJ4. There is a CJ4 play list with lots of videos that might answer your questions on RNAV approaches. I’m not sure where I find the time either. I’ve slowed down on videos to spend as much time as possible with my kids before all of them are in school. Video frequency will increase in the fall of this year.
Thanks so much I will check out your suggestions. I think I had selected NAV not APPR in the CJ4. What are settings in VNAV to fly a particular flight plan from takeoff to the approach point so that cruse elevation remains synchronized to the GPS points along the route and the proper flight level at each including the transition to landing. Much thanks!!
The explanation and video is so very nice. I think I was combining a flight route between the departure field and a distant waypoint. Following that arrival then switching to an RNAV just outside the IFA using a published RNAV arrival. With this configuration I would expect the results given in your video with AP- APPR both activated. Thanks so much again!
Exemplary clarity - thank you. Much harder, and true sign of intelligent quality, brevity. Now I'll go on and not be brief :-) I do appreciate the time and effort put in to this, and the knowledge shared. I've been avoiding RNAV because it was clear as mud what worked and what didn't on msfs and now I'm happy to give it a go. ILS works intuitively and well. One thing that I think I got was when to press the Approach button - looks like as soon as you pass the X on the approach plate. Any other clues as to when to hit APP? Seems the magenta dot is there from a long way off. Can you press too early? And if it is GPS and doing Vertical Nav, why do you still have to define the heights manually as on the approach chart? Surely that would be in the GPS flight plan too? Thanks - Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing. Pressing APPR does the same as pressing NAV expect it does one more thing.. holds altitude until the GS or GP centers and it will follow it and ignore the altitude alerter. The GP doesn't work correctly until hitting the FAF on an RNAV approach in the default aircraft. VNAV doesn't do a lot with the default aircraft. I think the 787 has some VNAV functionality. If you want working VNAV get the CJ4 Working Title Mod. It's free but the FMS works almost 100% in terms of functionality and that includes VNAV. It will even compute takeoff and landing distance and Vspeeds and allows flap selections, anti ice on or off, and wet runway performance.
In real life and on ILS approaches press APPR when ATC says cleared for the approach. Otherwise you're not cleared to descend below the last assigned altitude and pressing APPR will follow the GS. If not using ATC it can be pressed whenever you like. It will just hold your selected altitude until it sees the GS.
@@thecorporatepilotdad in 172 the G1000 Nxi creates some issues when you press RNAV if ht is above the minimum of the assigned waypoints...its confusing how to get it working.... issue is somewhere in the altitude level...
I have a few questions if you don't mind. In real life, would someone fly in these conditions with a GA aircraft? I understand that if you fly IFR it's because you may expect low visibility, but would someone fly and land in these conditions on purpose? In real life again, when there is a mandatory altitude to cross a way point (seen with a line bellow and over the altitude), is there a certain play or you have to be at that exact altitude? In your video you have to descend 500' between JUGGY and DANDY, is there a quick way to calculate the rate of descent needed or do pilots just eyeball it? At STICC where you intercepted the glidepath, it's 1300 min but no max, would it have captured the glidepath even if you had stayed at 1500 from DANDY? Thanks again for the videos the format is excellent!
For flying in those conditions, it depends on the pilot and their personal minimums they have set for themselves based on comfort level and experience. For the type of flying I do, yes, we would fly in weather that low. If we have the minimums for the approach, then yes, we would go. For a mandatory crossing (line above and below the altitude) you have to be at that altitude when you hit the waypoint. It doesn't matter if you descend to that altitude 1 mile or 0.1 mile before it as long as you cross the waypoint AT that altitude. I have a video on how to figure descents that shows what I am about to say. In real life we have a small arc on the MFD that moves based on the altitude we're going to and the current rate of descent. We can descend to put that small arc on the fix and we know we'll hit it. In FS2020 and in real life, you can look at your ETA to the next fix. Say it is 500 feet below you and your ETE to the next fix is 2 minutes. You would have to descend at 250 feet per minute to hit it at the prescribed altitude. In FS2020, the GPS doesn't display the GPS Glide Path (Glide Path on GPS apps, and Glide Slope on ILS approaches) correctly until you hit the fix prior to the runway. Theoretically, yes and I believe it works this way in FS2020, it will intercept the glide path from above 1300 feet on that approach (provided you are beyond the FAF) and it will take you down so you'll be at or near 1300 feet when you cross the FAF (STICC). Those were some great questions!
Turn it off. The AP won’t land the airplane itself unless it has autoland capability. A feature GA airplanes don’t have currently. If you want to see something cool check out Emergency Autoland by Garmin.
Not so quick question. I have watched your videos ils and rnav approaches and memorized them word for word yet rarely will the glide slope or glide path ever activate and take me down.- I enter at the correct altitude and hit approach as indicated on the approach charts. I also ensure I have the correct nav frequencies entered and before the flight or after if I set the flight using the fms in flight I load and activate the approach. Is it me or a problem with the sim? Thanks if you can help. It's driving me batty. YOur videos are fantastic. Thanks!
Thanks that was seemless. BTW are you using skyvector for the nav chart? I'm having a hard time putting the chart up on the monitor with my cockpit. Right now I have to have my laptop with me to view my charts.
I was using free charts at the time from airnav.com and fltplan.com. However, I now use Navigraph on my iPad. If you have a tablet I highly recommend them. They have worldwide charts and if it is in FS2020, it is in Navigraph. Navigraph is great because it overlays the airplane location on the chart. If you check out one of my recent approach videos you can see it in action. For example, this ILS approach at London City: th-cam.com/video/KdyTXxQiG2o/w-d-xo.html
Here's a question for you..... So I understand the computer is keeping you lined up with the runway, but are you doing anything as far as descending? Or is the computer also controlling the decent?
I was controlling rate of decent until the glide path is intercepted. From that point it's like flying the glide slope on an ILS. Same concept but RNAV uses GPS and ILS uses ground based antennas near the runway.
@@jonnyg6892 until the GP is intercepted then APPR is used to follow the glide path just the way a glide slope is followed on an ILS. The GP is perfectly centered at the final approach fix. It does not "come alive" correctly until that point. Prior to reaching the final approach fix the GP should be above the airplane on the top of the indicator but it isn't in the sim. I'll send you a link to anther video I did that explains it.
That is how Asobo programmed that part of the sim. It's not right and there is a way around it. I did another video on how to bypass the arc. th-cam.com/video/z675zeqBOhE/w-d-xo.html
@@thecorporatepilotdad yeah very frustrating; I wish they'd get this fixed. I don't see entry holds or course reversals as are a part of actual appr plate too. Thanks for pointing to your other video, as I will use the work around to at least avoid that arc.
@@rammstein1903 Ditto on getting those crazy arcs fixed. With the Garmin NXi being worked on, the crazy arcs will soon become a thing of the past. If you don't have the Garmin NXi it can be downloaded in the marketplace (PC). It is not a finished product but it will be amazing when it is completed. Vectors to final can be selected on the NXi which is missing from MSFS default GPS systems.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks I'll take a look at that. I would like it if the GNS and GTN series navigators worked properly since that's what I use in real life.
It shouldn't be needed except for those with weak stomachs flying in VR for the first time. But in real life a bumpy flight like that one would get some people sick. Someone getting sick in the airplane takes the joy out of flying real fast.
Question: is there a way (in FS2020), to, let's say, in your example, join the RNAV from waypoit DANDY (instead of DWURF). It happened to me on VATSIM, the ATC gave me flight vectors to a waypoint that was NOT the first waypoint into an RNAV. I could use autopilot to go DIRECT to the waypoint requested by the ATC, but then, when I load and activate the approach, the magenta line (and thus the NAV autopilot) forces me to go arround and re-enter via the first waypoint that the ATC made me skip (because I was coming from another direction). another way to phrase : is there a way to enter a specific leg of an RNAV (IRL or in FS2020)
One thing you may be able to do, and I have done it a few times but it's been a while, instead of selecting direct and entering the waypoint they clear you to, delete ALL the waypoints prior to the fix they want you to go to. It should leave the waypoint you need and take you direct by default. I was typing my response and the more I thought about it, I think that is a way around having to fly that big teardrop pattern FS2020 puts in by default. See if that works for you. In real life we press direct and select DANDY and go straight to it and then fly the final approach course. You can always tell ATC (in VatSim) that you are unable and tell them what you can do. I do not like how FS2020 draws that big teardrop pattern.
Out of curiosity, what airplane were you in when you tried this? I tried it in the TBM and the delete button is greyed out when the approach is selected on the main menu page under aircraft and route selection. I have been able to manipulate the FMCs some in the Boeings. These things do not work like real FMCs.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I am right now in fs2020 trying to do this and unable ! there is nothing in my flight plan, no WAYPOINT, I could leave the destination airport and then the magenta line is direct to runway, but it's not an RNAV because the Glide path will NOT be followed. there must be a way.... I am and was, flying the TBM
@@DimitriKiselkov I am trying in the 747. I can't get it to work. When I delete a single waypoint before DANDY it deletes my route for the RNAV 6 Y approach. I have two DANDY fixes. In real life, you would select the 2nd DANDY then move it to the top on the legs page and it will go direct. I hope they fix these FMCs or someone comes out with a payware FMC/FMS that works like a real one. It will be so much easier.
I have a video on how to build a route in the Boeing FMCs. You could do it that way but if you did that, you would not have a glide path for the GPS approach and you would have to control altitude on your own. In real life, we cannot type in a route on an approach and it must be selected out of the list of approaches. However, this is FS2020 and everyone does what they need to do to make it work. Sorry I couldn't help on that one. It's just a limitation of the simulator right now.
well, I must be doing something wrong, maybe when I plan the flight. Most every time, I come in at a different angle and not center line. Yesterday flying into Orcas Island, I came in at about 30 degrees to the runway. I have landed doing RNAV, just not always. Will keep at it
Not all approaches are straight in. If there is no runway number in the approach heading on the top left of the chart, but a letter, then it is a circling approach and the final approach course varies by more than 30 degrees from the final approach course.
@@thecorporatepilotdad lol, I just looked at the plate for KORS and it says final approach course is offset 30 degrees, I hate being old, lol, thanks again
I've been practicing with PADQ, RNAV 26 you come in on 19.7. Never knew why until now. Still have one ?? the ILS-Y 26 approach seems to be the same as RNAV? Chart doesn't show that, may be a bug in game. This air port has all three. ILS, VOR, RNAV and departure obstacles. That could be a next video please.... Don't want to sound pushy just giving ideas.
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Thank you my friend for teaching me thats its all about when to hit the APP button.
You're welcome. And I like your similar channel name. All the coolest youtubers have "dad" in their channel name. My oldest child tells me otherwise.
@@thecorporatepilotdad You know it good sir!
Best RNAV tutorial I’ve been able to find.
Thank you so much. I do my best to make all my tutorials as accurate as possible in a timely manner.
love the crab explanation at the end.
Thank you. There will be more to come on that topic.
Very well done again! Your analytical and procedural style is a great source for flight sim beginners wanting to learn more about modern aviation. I just started an OnAir Career a few weeks ago. In Conjunction with Navigraph and your explanations it is a joy to fly AND understand how to fly properly and using the tools available. By the way - your landing was very interesting - especially the part about crosswind landing. Maybe you can do a tutorial about that topic in the future, too? I'd like to practice that.
About doing a video on crosswind landings. Yes. I'm doing another approach video today or tomorrow because someone asked me to then I'm going to start more basic videos and teach stuff I would have taught in a first fight lesson and beyond. I keep thinking I'm going to run out of ideas but by the time I finish the next video, three more ideas come to mind.
Yes indeed , the best RNAV approach tutorial , thank you !
Thank you so much. Feel free to share it around the interwebs!
You are a natural born teacher.
That is very nice of you to say. Thank you.
Outstanding!!! You used Flight Mode Annunciator 😀 rather than slang score board! another point you stated verify what you selected on the flight control panel with what you saw on the FMA😀
You briefed the approach plate and explained the procedure, and the exception of how and when to arm the approach mode! In the FS2020
You did a great job with this video,
You are a mentor for other pilots aspiring to being professional pilots so please continue to use proper phraseology. There were a few other points you made that were really good! I just can’t recall right this moment. Keep up the outstanding Videos. You are catching on. 😀🛫
Thanks so much. FMA is in there because of you. I was at unnamed training company for recurrent a month ago and they called it the scoreboard constantly. It drove me nuts. And checking the FMA after something is pressed on the FDCP, it's the time in real life we've all not done so that make us remember now. I'm just trying to keep it real and to show people this is easy when done correctly.
Wow, I had a positive influence on someone on TH-cam. Does that make me an influencer? 🤣🛫
@@TheFalconJetDriver Yes, yes it does.
@@thecorporatepilotdad keep up the great tutorials,😀🛫
Thanks. I was confused by the state of the glide slope indicator at times. Good to know it is a bug that will no doubt be fixed one day. I’ve yet to get RNAV approaches working in the CJ4 but will try this approach out to see how it goes.
RNAV approaches are the best thing ever created. At first, I thought there were more difficult so always tried to do ILS approaches. Than I realized my mistake. ;)
They're kind of buggy in FS2020. The glide path isn't right until beyond the final approach fix.
That was amazing. So much stuff to take in, but you describe it so well. I will need to watch it a couple more times, but this was really helpful.
Here is a more recent video on RNAV approaches if you would like to see more examples. The linked video is in the Longitude, but everything is similar once the approach is loaded. th-cam.com/video/fPdFzXSrfjY/w-d-xo.html
@@thecorporatepilotdad Very cool. Thank you. I will check this out this evening. I appreciate you reaching out.
@@StevePrentice You are welcome. I try very hard to answer every question.
Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into making your videos. It is really appreciated.
You are very welcome. Thank you so much for the nice comment. These videos take quite a bit of time to make so it's nice to hear the kind words.
Beautiful landing in such Scottish conditions. I’m off to try this now
How did the RNAV approach work out when you tried it? Did you attempt it in Scottish conditions?
@@thecorporatepilotdad worked well. Will practice a few more times before ramping it up to normal Scottish conditions
Thank you for a very useful tutorial. Just one thing which I picked up somewhere, but I didn't notice you include and that is that to hold your pitch at it's current value (say 5degrees), press the "FD" button. Hope this helps. Cheers, Richard.
That does work in FS2020 but I'll also select VS and have the selected VS match the current VS then turn the AP on. It's much less jerky that way.
Lol
I was actually just thinking about how I wanted an RNAV tutorial...
Unfortunately so many RNAV approaches are broken in MSFS that it is a bit of a lottery if it's your first time landing at a particular airport.
Ditto last comment. Beautifully done. Clear, concise and understandable. Thank you!
Thank you very much. I appreciate comments like that a lot.
@@thecorporatepilotdad one follow up question. That final crosswind aileron and rudder correction were done by you, correct? Or was it performed by the autopilot?
@@tfisher All me. That AP won't do anything with landings. It holds courses, altitudes, headings, and can climb and descend at the rate you tell it.
@@thecorporatepilotdad sorry, another: at what point does the pilot take over from the autopilot? And is it necessary to disengage the autopilot at that moment, or just take over the controls?
@@tfisher There is no set time when the pilot takes over. Most APs in real life have limitations on minimum altitudes depending on the type of approach or enroute operations. On a visual approach I will hand fly (in real life) anywhere from below 10,000 feet altitude or leave it on until a few miles from the airport. It depends on familiarity with the area, or how much traffic there is in the area. On an approach like the one in the video, usually when I see the airport the AP is turned off.
Good recap ! I've been flying ILS, because it's fun. Need to learn RNAV next
Holy Moly, raining against windshield, no visibility until the last minute. I thought, is this a missed approach video? TCPD calls out '100', nuthin' in sight! What's he gonna do? Brilliant instruction and definitely professional pilot. Thank you!
There is a video where I do an RNAV approach in the Longitude that's even lower but I still land and if it were in real life it would be legal. I thought that video was going to be a missed approach because I set the weather down and thought I would also be talking about doing a missed approach and the sim wasn't ready for that yet. I would have had to redo the whole thing. It worked out really well.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Wow! Sounds exciting, I'll look for that RNAV video!
What a beautifull landing sir !!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you. My landings in real life are better and I only wish those could be shown but I cannot.
Hi buddy, the touchdown is perfect!🎉
Thank you. Been out of civilian flight sims for a while. Love the newer glass cockpits. Trying to learn to do things more or less correctly.
Tricky to do when FS doesn't give you all the right tools like charts, and in VR I can't look over at my laptop. Also tricky finding actual instructional videos. And of course they don't teach things in the correct order.
Navigraph has a chart service that uses Jepps. The CJ4 WTM has charts on the MFD but I do believe navigraph is required for them to work. That is one option for getting charts in VR.
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Currently VFR for VR is what I use. Not bad, even provides taxi chart for most airports.
What it doesn't provide is full details for airports like navair.com, not sure if I typed that accurately. But much of that is over my head anyway, as yet.
But trying to move on from just being in the air to doing basics the correct way.
Entering holding patterns correctly and that sort, then instrument landing.
Learning in the correct order is the trick, and getting things out of order probably discourages a lot of people. Probably never fly for real, as that's just to expensive. But this is the next best thing and I like learning these things. Even if the sim doesn't care if I do it right. If I can land on a carrier in DCS, I can learn to do this.
@@icecold9511 Unfortunately, real flying has become very expensive. However, it's much cheaper to play FS2020 and what a great sim to fly around in with this amazing scenery. There is a video on my channel about holds that is very in depth along with about every type of instrument approach you can imagine.
@@thecorporatepilotdad
I've already favorited you. I'm trying to approach them carefully and learn the right stuff before going to far. Holding patterns early. I just tried to line up on 23 in Naples fl, when I was told 14. Got disoriented there. And found out my in sim vfr vr map had Naples wrong. Taxi way c and b were reversed.
Curious if VOR is much in use. Someone elsewhere had said it is fading as VOR goes into disuse and becons fail. Had planned to try it instead of GPS, but the airports I looked at had no VOR.
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Oh. If you haven't tried this in VR, it is addicting. I even set keys so I could move freely in the Cessna, sit in the back, copilot, anything.
Great tutorial once again. Quick question: instead of using vertical speed/nose down couldnt you have activated the vnav? Or do the altitudes have to be set initially at the way points then for the vnav to work? Cheers
If VNAV worked on this airplane and other default airplanes, then VNAV would have been used. The Garmin G1000 NXi has working VNAV the last I heard as does the CJ4 Working Title mod. The NXi is available in the marketplace.
I've done flight sim for almost 28 years, but I've never done an RNAV approach, mainly just ILS approaches. A related question: Have waypoints, such as DWURF, JUGGY and DANDY, only been around since GPS came out in the '80s? Thanks for this educational video! Now I can do an RNAV approach!
New waypoints can be added on approaches when they are developed. DANDY is also a fix on the ILS runway 6 at TEB. ILS approaches are great, but RNAV approaches are everywhere and becoming more commonly used in some places over an ILS. If the airplane can do LPV approaches (lower minimums for aircraft equipped with WAAS) lower minimums equal to an ILS can be used (usually 200 feet AGL). Glad you liked the video. Thanks for checking it out and thanks for the question.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks for the reply and info. When I do flight sim, I like to be as realistic as possible. And since RNAV is more common in places, it's at the top of my list to learn. Thanks again for the video.
This is a very good tutorial and I learn a lot from this video. Thank you so much.
You are welcome. I’m glad it helped.
Thanks. Really clear. Helps a lot that you highlight things you were talking about.
You are welcome. The highlight boxes help so much. Nothing is missed while looking around for what is being talked about. It really helps in the learning process.
Excellent video, Captain!
Great job again. I've been practicing all of them!
I have more types of approaches coming. Something very cool and exciting is coming to the approach tutorial videos. There will be a video coming out in a few days. Stay tuned.
Thanks for a great tutorial. Former VFR taildragger (Luscombe 8E) pilot here working to regain my virtual wings. Been starting to practice RNAV approaches but your tutorial filled in a lot of gaps in my knowledge. Excellent job!
@@robertcorbett2695 I haven't instructed in 15 years but I do fly professionally. I try to keep the same standard in my videos as when I instructed. Glad you found them helpful. There are many tutorials out there by gamers and they miss a lot. However, for not having any experience some do a decent job.
Great tutorial! Thanks for the help!!
That is why this channel is here. Trying my best to make aviation easy without taking 90 minutes to explain a procedure that can be done in 10 minutes.
Excellent - very clear
Man! awesome job. Thanks
As an ATC/Pilot, humorous that there was a runway incursion as you were landing!
I may have noticed that before but forgot. That is the 2nd time that's happened while recording videos.
Another great video. Thanks again.
You are very welcome. Many more great videos to come!
Very well explained!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video, thanks. Are the waypoints and other navigational data updated every 28 days.
I'm not sure on that. I did see where an AIRAC was included in a previous update but I'm not sure if it's done every 28 days or not in FS2020.
Great video, I don't know where you find the time to do these very informative videos. I was looking for your RNAV tutorial for this subject in the CRJ4 Citation. Do you have this as I thought you did or am I mistaken since the Proline Colins is so different than the G1000. Thanks
The PL21 is different that the G1000 but the concept is the same. I have videos on VNAV and ILS approaches in the CJ4. Select APPR and VNAV for RNAV approaches in the CJ4. There is a CJ4 play list with lots of videos that might answer your questions on RNAV approaches. I’m not sure where I find the time either. I’ve slowed down on videos to spend as much time as possible with my kids before all of them are in school. Video frequency will increase in the fall of this year.
Thanks so much I will check out your suggestions. I think I had selected NAV not APPR in the CJ4. What are settings in VNAV to fly a particular flight plan from takeoff to the approach point so that cruse elevation remains synchronized to the GPS points along the route and the proper flight level at each including the transition to landing. Much thanks!!
The explanation and video is so very nice. I think I was combining a flight route between the departure field and a distant waypoint. Following that arrival then switching to an RNAV just outside the IFA using a published RNAV arrival. With this configuration I would expect the results given in your video with AP- APPR both activated. Thanks so much again!
Best explanation I've seen yet. Thank you!
Thank you very much. The GP doesn't behave correctly but with that video it makes things easier.
@@thecorporatepilotdad That video was great! I am proficient with ILS approaches but never knew how to do a RNAV. Thanks again!
@@jonnyg6892 I have nearly every type of approach on my channel with explanations like the RNAV approach.
Exemplary clarity - thank you. Much harder, and true sign of intelligent quality, brevity. Now I'll go on and not be brief :-)
I do appreciate the time and effort put in to this, and the knowledge shared. I've been avoiding RNAV because it was clear as mud what worked and what didn't on msfs and now I'm happy to give it a go. ILS works intuitively and well. One thing that I think I got was when to press the Approach button - looks like as soon as you pass the X on the approach plate. Any other clues as to when to hit APP? Seems the magenta dot is there from a long way off. Can you press too early? And if it is GPS and doing Vertical Nav, why do you still have to define the heights manually as on the approach chart? Surely that would be in the GPS flight plan too? Thanks - Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing. Pressing APPR does the same as pressing NAV expect it does one more thing.. holds altitude until the GS or GP centers and it will follow it and ignore the altitude alerter. The GP doesn't work correctly until hitting the FAF on an RNAV approach in the default aircraft. VNAV doesn't do a lot with the default aircraft. I think the 787 has some VNAV functionality. If you want working VNAV get the CJ4 Working Title Mod. It's free but the FMS works almost 100% in terms of functionality and that includes VNAV. It will even compute takeoff and landing distance and Vspeeds and allows flap selections, anti ice on or off, and wet runway performance.
In real life and on ILS approaches press APPR when ATC says cleared for the approach. Otherwise you're not cleared to descend below the last assigned altitude and pressing APPR will follow the GS. If not using ATC it can be pressed whenever you like. It will just hold your selected altitude until it sees the GS.
@@thecorporatepilotdad in 172 the G1000 Nxi creates some issues when you press RNAV if ht is above the minimum of the assigned waypoints...its confusing how to get it working.... issue is somewhere in the altitude level...
I have a few questions if you don't mind.
In real life, would someone fly in these conditions with a GA aircraft? I understand that if you fly IFR it's because you may expect low visibility, but would someone fly and land in these conditions on purpose?
In real life again, when there is a mandatory altitude to cross a way point (seen with a line bellow and over the altitude), is there a certain play or you have to be at that exact altitude?
In your video you have to descend 500' between JUGGY and DANDY, is there a quick way to calculate the rate of descent needed or do pilots just eyeball it?
At STICC where you intercepted the glidepath, it's 1300 min but no max, would it have captured the glidepath even if you had stayed at 1500 from DANDY?
Thanks again for the videos the format is excellent!
For flying in those conditions, it depends on the pilot and their personal minimums they have set for themselves based on comfort level and experience. For the type of flying I do, yes, we would fly in weather that low. If we have the minimums for the approach, then yes, we would go.
For a mandatory crossing (line above and below the altitude) you have to be at that altitude when you hit the waypoint. It doesn't matter if you descend to that altitude 1 mile or 0.1 mile before it as long as you cross the waypoint AT that altitude.
I have a video on how to figure descents that shows what I am about to say. In real life we have a small arc on the MFD that moves based on the altitude we're going to and the current rate of descent. We can descend to put that small arc on the fix and we know we'll hit it. In FS2020 and in real life, you can look at your ETA to the next fix. Say it is 500 feet below you and your ETE to the next fix is 2 minutes. You would have to descend at 250 feet per minute to hit it at the prescribed altitude.
In FS2020, the GPS doesn't display the GPS Glide Path (Glide Path on GPS apps, and Glide Slope on ILS approaches) correctly until you hit the fix prior to the runway. Theoretically, yes and I believe it works this way in FS2020, it will intercept the glide path from above 1300 feet on that approach (provided you are beyond the FAF) and it will take you down so you'll be at or near 1300 feet when you cross the FAF (STICC).
Those were some great questions!
Do you always disengage autopilot when you have a view on the airway or can you leave AP until it reaches the runway? What's the best practice here?
Turn it off. The AP won’t land the airplane itself unless it has autoland capability. A feature GA airplanes don’t have currently. If you want to see something cool check out Emergency Autoland by Garmin.
Not so quick question. I have watched your videos ils and rnav approaches and memorized them word for word yet rarely will the glide slope or glide path ever activate and take me down.- I enter at the correct altitude and hit approach as indicated on the approach charts. I also ensure I have the correct nav frequencies entered and before the flight or after if I set the flight using the fms in flight I load and activate the approach. Is it me or a problem with the sim? Thanks if you can help. It's driving me batty. YOur videos are fantastic. Thanks!
Can you go to my about page, get my email address, and send me an email? I can help you better there.
Well explained, as usual :)
Thanks that was seemless. BTW are you using skyvector for the nav chart? I'm having a hard time putting the chart up on the monitor with my cockpit. Right now I have to have my laptop with me to view my charts.
I was using free charts at the time from airnav.com and fltplan.com. However, I now use Navigraph on my iPad. If you have a tablet I highly recommend them. They have worldwide charts and if it is in FS2020, it is in Navigraph. Navigraph is great because it overlays the airplane location on the chart. If you check out one of my recent approach videos you can see it in action. For example, this ILS approach at London City: th-cam.com/video/KdyTXxQiG2o/w-d-xo.html
Great Video. Thanks
Glad you liked it! And sorry it took me two weeks to answer this comment. It slipped through the cracks.
thanks!
Welcome!
Here's a question for you..... So I understand the computer is keeping you lined up with the runway, but are you doing anything as far as descending? Or is the computer also controlling the decent?
I was controlling rate of decent until the glide path is intercepted. From that point it's like flying the glide slope on an ILS. Same concept but RNAV uses GPS and ILS uses ground based antennas near the runway.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Got it, so you are controlling the rate of decent manually the entire time. Thanks!
@@jonnyg6892 until the GP is intercepted then APPR is used to follow the glide path just the way a glide slope is followed on an ILS. The GP is perfectly centered at the final approach fix. It does not "come alive" correctly until that point. Prior to reaching the final approach fix the GP should be above the airplane on the top of the indicator but it isn't in the sim. I'll send you a link to anther video I did that explains it.
@@jonnyg6892 th-cam.com/video/mfjgVBu-uq8/w-d-xo.html
Thankyou
Why does it take on an arc to get to DWURF rather than straight?
That is how Asobo programmed that part of the sim. It's not right and there is a way around it. I did another video on how to bypass the arc. th-cam.com/video/z675zeqBOhE/w-d-xo.html
@@thecorporatepilotdad yeah very frustrating; I wish they'd get this fixed. I don't see entry holds or course reversals as are a part of actual appr plate too. Thanks for pointing to your other video, as I will use the work around to at least avoid that arc.
@@rammstein1903 Ditto on getting those crazy arcs fixed. With the Garmin NXi being worked on, the crazy arcs will soon become a thing of the past. If you don't have the Garmin NXi it can be downloaded in the marketplace (PC). It is not a finished product but it will be amazing when it is completed. Vectors to final can be selected on the NXi which is missing from MSFS default GPS systems.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks I'll take a look at that. I would like it if the GNS and GTN series navigators worked properly since that's what I use in real life.
Nice video. Too bad you don't provide the sick bag...
It shouldn't be needed except for those with weak stomachs flying in VR for the first time. But in real life a bumpy flight like that one would get some people sick. Someone getting sick in the airplane takes the joy out of flying real fast.
Question: is there a way (in FS2020), to, let's say, in your example, join the RNAV from waypoit DANDY (instead of DWURF). It happened to me on VATSIM, the ATC gave me flight vectors to a waypoint that was NOT the first waypoint into an RNAV. I could use autopilot to go DIRECT to the waypoint requested by the ATC, but then, when I load and activate the approach, the magenta line (and thus the NAV autopilot) forces me to go arround and re-enter via the first waypoint that the ATC made me skip (because I was coming from another direction). another way to phrase : is there a way to enter a specific leg of an RNAV (IRL or in FS2020)
One thing you may be able to do, and I have done it a few times but it's been a while, instead of selecting direct and entering the waypoint they clear you to, delete ALL the waypoints prior to the fix they want you to go to. It should leave the waypoint you need and take you direct by default. I was typing my response and the more I thought about it, I think that is a way around having to fly that big teardrop pattern FS2020 puts in by default. See if that works for you.
In real life we press direct and select DANDY and go straight to it and then fly the final approach course. You can always tell ATC (in VatSim) that you are unable and tell them what you can do. I do not like how FS2020 draws that big teardrop pattern.
Out of curiosity, what airplane were you in when you tried this? I tried it in the TBM and the delete button is greyed out when the approach is selected on the main menu page under aircraft and route selection. I have been able to manipulate the FMCs some in the Boeings. These things do not work like real FMCs.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I am right now in fs2020 trying to do this and unable ! there is nothing in my flight plan, no WAYPOINT, I could leave the destination airport and then the magenta line is direct to runway, but it's not an RNAV because the Glide path will NOT be followed. there must be a way.... I am and was, flying the TBM
@@DimitriKiselkov I am trying in the 747. I can't get it to work. When I delete a single waypoint before DANDY it deletes my route for the RNAV 6 Y approach. I have two DANDY fixes. In real life, you would select the 2nd DANDY then move it to the top on the legs page and it will go direct. I hope they fix these FMCs or someone comes out with a payware FMC/FMS that works like a real one. It will be so much easier.
I have a video on how to build a route in the Boeing FMCs. You could do it that way but if you did that, you would not have a glide path for the GPS approach and you would have to control altitude on your own. In real life, we cannot type in a route on an approach and it must be selected out of the list of approaches. However, this is FS2020 and everyone does what they need to do to make it work. Sorry I couldn't help on that one. It's just a limitation of the simulator right now.
well, I must be doing something wrong, maybe when I plan the flight. Most every time, I come in at a different angle and not center line. Yesterday flying into Orcas Island, I came in at about 30 degrees to the runway. I have landed doing RNAV, just not always. Will keep at it
Not all approaches are straight in. If there is no runway number in the approach heading on the top left of the chart, but a letter, then it is a circling approach and the final approach course varies by more than 30 degrees from the final approach course.
@@thecorporatepilotdad lol, I just looked at the plate for KORS and it says final approach course is offset 30 degrees, I hate being old, lol, thanks again
@@JimEstep12071 And you thought you screwed it up! Good job nailing it the first time!
@@thecorporatepilotdad You guys are great, I'm no pilot here just an older dude learning.
I've been practicing with PADQ, RNAV 26 you come in on 19.7. Never knew why until now. Still have one ?? the ILS-Y 26 approach seems to be the same as RNAV? Chart doesn't show that, may be a bug in game. This air port has all three. ILS, VOR, RNAV and departure obstacles. That could be a next video please.... Don't want to sound pushy just giving ideas.
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I loved your video your good keep it up 👌 I also make TH-cam videos if you want to check it out (: