2 Nephi 3-5 “A Skin Of Blackness” [Feb 12th-18th 2024] COME FOLLOW ME
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- Greetings, "Mormon Sunday School". Today, we're delving into the sixth week of the "Come, Follow Me" curriculum for the Book of Mormon in 2024. In this episode, we're tackling a central theme throughout the Book of Mormon - the "curse of a skin of blackness." Brace yourselves for a candid and thought-provoking discussion that goes beyond the ordinary Sunday School class.
Mormon Sunday School, where you will learn stuff you're never gonna hear in regular Sunday School, invites you to join us as we explore the intricacies and controversies surrounding this sensitive scripture. Our focus is on understanding the historical context, cultural implications, and, most importantly, the modern perspective on the "curse" mentioned in the Book of Mormon.
In "A Skin Of Blackness," we'll discuss:
Central Scripture Study: Examine the Book of Mormon's account of the "curse of a skin of blackness" as a central aspect of our scripture study, delving into its significance within the broader narrative.
Unveiling Historical Context: Explore the historical context surrounding this scripture, shedding light on the cultural influences that may have shaped its inclusion in the Book of Mormon.
"We Lived after the Manner of Happiness": Discuss how the understanding and interpretation of this scripture have evolved over time, and its impact on the lives and perspectives of Latter-day Saints.
Reconciling Past and Present: Reflect on the modern understanding of the "curse" and its implications, seeking to find harmony between our evolving perspectives and the teachings found in the Book of Mormon.
Join us on this eye-opening journey as we confront the complexities of the "curse of a skin of blackness" in the Book of Mormon. Mormon Sunday School is committed to providing a space for thoughtful discussion and deeper exploration, addressing topics that may challenge conventional narratives. Don't miss out on the unique insights that will broaden your understanding of this crucial aspect of our scripture study.
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I was shamed and silenced during a leadership meeting with Elder Stevenson when I tried to ask him a question during an open question and answer period that he allowed for about his apology statement to the AACP, but I was quickly shut down by his bodyguard/usher. I was publicly humiliated by a member of the 70s quorum for asking a hard question in front of a room full of bishops and stake presidents.
I was not trying to be belligerent. I was just trying to ask a sincere question about the mistake in the come Follow me manual. Because of how I was treated, I resigned from my first counselor Bishopric calling and quit going to church. a month later. That was a little over two years ago.
I love all lessons that radio free Mormon teaches, but this is one of my very favorite. He is such a good teacher and speaker.
I have listened to it three times, but on the third time I watched, read, listened, and followed along very carefully. It was this lesson 4 years ago that started leading me out of the church. It helped me realize how racist the church has been and still is, and that Joseph Smith made the whole Book of Mormon story up.
Thank you RFM for such a good lesson.
As always, awesome job RFM❤
I am enjoying these so much, that I am listening a second time.
Why would anyone wanna watch the Super Bowl when you can be right here in Mormon Sunday school with radio free Mormon.
During a faith crisis/transition, not even the super bowl is more important than deconstruction. 🔥
That is why I love being able to pick this up Monday. Because there is something magical about live sports.
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I recorded both because I was eating.
I have a daughter that I adopted from Mexico. I have a child, grandchildren and great grandchildren directly from that adoption. I never want my children to read the curse passage from 2 Nephi. As you know, Big R, It was a result of the untruthfulness of the BOM that i finally resigned my membership in the church. By the way as retired professor of literature, I find the BOM a poorly written book of fiction. I have read it in English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, and Partly in Italian. The book never became better, no matter the language I read it in.
The superbowl of gospel doctrine class right here!
Now the curse is not fully understood... The new pre gaslighting of the Skin doesn't mean Skin scriptures... 😳
Very much enjoy these, I look forward to them every week with an excitement I only wish I had for attending Sunday school.
Been here 33 minutes countdown. 22 minutes to go! This is how I'm spending my Super Sportsball day! LOVE Radio Free Mormon and this new content, I'm here for it (early, because I smashed "mormon standard time" outta my life long ago).
Much better than the Superbowl ... Thank you.
Not completely- over time!! ❤
Waaaay better! Thank you RFM!
@@ginafrancis4950 yes, great point! . Apologist do not recognize this simple English language they have been teaching on Sunday school for almost 200 years. Now the meaning is different? Wow, Apologists and leaders are grasping. Is God ok with this lie? Changing the one and only true book? On this planet ? They need to leave it alone. Lol. 😀😀😀Just saying .
All my life in the church I was taught exactly what is printed in the Book of Mormon. A skin of darkness was a curse. Another thing that was taught was that the races should not mix.
I watch at 1.25x speed, so my class got out on time. :D
The belief of soneone’s skin becoming lighter over time is crazy making to me and 100% insulting to the human race.
What do you think happens when a white person and a dark person get married or sealed and have children? Are the children not lighter skinned than the dark parent? Now what happens if that continues each passing generation where the children marry and reproduce with someone who has a lighter complexion? For context my wife is chinese, I’m Anglo, our son is even fairer in his complexion than both my wife and I and thats just one generation. Our daughter isn’t fairer than me but she is considerably fairer than her mother. This is how genetics and ancestry work. It shouldn’t be controversial or surprising.
@@robertroe9563 I think what I was responding to was when Spencer Kimball said the little Native American girl was becoming lighter as time went on because of her worthiness. Did I hear that wrong? It would be great if I misheard that because otherwise it would be awful.
@@jewelgazer well, there can be truth to it if thats what was said id have to listen again. Fair skin is a product of neoteny. It is often the case that children are lighter complected than their parents.
Who needs the Super Bowl 🤩
“This Super Bowl. Is it Wedgwood?”
This is a great share. Thank you RFM
Loving this podcast
My seminary teacher was in his 70s and didn't give a shit about anyone's feelings. Concerning this curse, he was very explicit in stating that the Lamanites were DARK-SKINNED and that the dark skin was the CURSE as well as the SIGN of the CURSE. This was back in the late '90s, so this teacher is no longer alive...but I seriously doubt that there are ANY seminary teachers out there who would be so blunt.
We were told to disregard the error in the printed manual, but I was also in the same ward as Peggy Fletcher Stack, so there’s that.
Excellent video
It is also taught that Ismael and his family comes from line of ephriam - it was said to be in lost 116 pages
Thinking of my mom who said prophecies of Joseph Smith in the BofM and the JSV of the Bible PROVE he was a prophet. 🙄
lol! You said codified…. Cardin Ellis would be so pleased! 😂😂😂
It doesn't matter what colour. NOW the church is on board. I think the LDS leaders should apologise.
God: "looking at you Joseph... but i need to mention it because we're doing literature form here"
Nice!
“Curse was to withdraw form God”, or “not fully understood “. Genius apologist 😂
Forgive me, R, I failed to thank you for your excellent work today. Your friend, Big Barr
Sad that I missed it live
I’d love some Mormon friends I’m active on TH-cam
Hilarious ending joke about the bell!
Skin of blackness is such weird, inaccurate phrasing. The Indigenous people living in Joseph Smith's time and place would not have been anywhere near "black"; possibly light brown in skin tone. I'm not sure if that implies there may be some symbolism in the use of that phrase. If skin tone is what is being referred to, it can't be literal.
It is truly hurtful to those of us who had faith in past leaders, to now see them as being so deeply entrenched in Utah traditional worldviews. They were so ignorant of races and cultures outside their milieu, despite their overseas missions, higher education, frequent travels overseas, and their proclaimed mission to create a global church.
Thanks for these insightful lessons, RFM.
Joseph smith was the messiah Ben laden. Problem solved. Lol
is there another christian church where god is so impotent he has to argue and convince his followers? the jews were rebellious but they accepted God's laws are rightful. here the whole god-stuff is thrown out and openly stated by that god 🤔
Joseph Smith WAS 23!.....!
So…was Joseph Smith an incompetent 23 year old treasure scryer?
Is it possible that "skin of blackness" doesn't actually refer to dark skin, but means something to the effect of "wrapped in evilness"? P.S. Not an apologist. I'm curious because it doesn't make sense for any religion to alienate 3/5 of the 🌎 population. Just doesn't seem like an efficient way to spread the message.
That could have worked had the “prophets” not made so many declarations about black people and native Americans. 🤷♂️
What worked for the early-to-mid 19th century clearly doesn't in the early 21st, and this is due to globalization. This is why the modern church is. scrambling to distance itself from its racist past.
You can bet that "skin of blackness" meant brown skin, black skin, and everything in between, literally, not metaphorically, as unbelievable as this may seem. It is conceivable that the BOM will be altered, accordingly.
Yeah, no.
It’s pretty clear the founders of Mormonism were racist.
My initial reply to you and your reply to my reply were removed. Interested censorship. I wonder why. RFM, was that you? And if so what issue did you take? That seems kinda stupid, considering I am in no way favoring calling black skin a curse.
@@jacoboneil1524It appears that my "thank you" to Phil was removed as well. Strange.
RFM, you are getting Genesis 49 all wrong because you're relying on the translation, and (as far as I have found), *all* translations convert the prophecy of Joseph into symbols not stated in the Hebrew.
I could lay it all out, but my main point is that the brethren need to explain this *by* *revelation.* If the brethren always meet with Jesus, then it ought to be easy to ask Him these questions.
Hint: The brethren have never seen or heard from Him, so they shirk all prophetic duties and pontidicate for power and pay.
Biblical fan fiction, worse than the original.
Mormonism, when Christianity isn’t fanciful weird for you.
This isnt mormon sunday school its anti mormon and lies about the latterday saints
What lies are you referring to?
which lies?
Just one example would be great. 😂