Giorgio platform was engineered to be on a par with the very best of the time, it has been used even for Maserati. Honestly it’s the pinnacle of normal/affordable Italian cars, we will never see it again as Stellantis is building things in a more French way…. So if you like it, just buy it, you won’t regret it.
Bought my Quad in 2018, carbon seats and brakes. Sold it late last year after 50,000 trouble free kms, not a single warning light. Also scored my first 3 services free and 6 year warranty. Such a beast, best car I’ve ever owned.
@@kimzor1989depreciation never mattered to me. I keep cars a long time. With payments on a new car being $1000 a month now, you’re better off fixing your car. Keeping miles off a car is like me not banging my girlfriend to keep miles off her for the next guy.
YES! buy one! I've owned one since 2019 and it is FABULOUS. No issues other than indeed a battery replacement and if you maintain it as prescribed it will put a smile on your face. You realise every time you drive something unique and beautiful and you'll look back at it every time you park it.
Nope, I had the turbo go out twice and it took the dealership over a month to fix it each time. The left front break caliper froze as well. Fortunately the dealership fixed all of it for free.
Thank you for a brilliant review. Have owned 3 Alfas over 34 years: a Berlina, an Alfetta and for 24 years a new 1984 Giulietta 2L. The last was only sold due to serious health issues. All were serviced regularly by specialist Alfa Mechanics and gave very little trouble. We so miss our Alfa still. As I pray for a miraculous recovery I so long to own a Giulia Veloce. Now all you have done is to increase my craving for one more Alfa before I die. You have a lot to answer for!
hope you get one, and all the best with your health. I too was diagnosed with a serious medical condition, and the first thing I did was I went out and bought a quadrifoglio. It makes me feel fantastic every time I look at it, not to mention how stunning it is to drive.
Am finally suddenly picking up after a terrible time with post prostate cancer radiation therapy. And immediately my thoughts have turned to buying my 4th Alfa, a Giulia - probably a Veloce. Think of me and I shall keep you my fellow Alfista informed. 😊
So happy to see a positive non-italian review of this car, my car (as italian i must admit, we're not always very objective about italian cars). Unfortunately, in Italy is very expensive to own the VELOCE with the petrol engine (about 1k € of taxes every year and don't even get me started on insurance) so i've got a used, and wonderfully maintained, 2018 VELOCE with the 2.2 diesel 210 bhp. Still an amazing car to watch and to drive, no big drama so far in 2 years of ownership and almost 100k total
Any recomendation to avoid problems with the DPF on Giulia ?Which is the use that you usually give it ? I would like to buy a Diesel 2.2 but I’m worried about the problems that I could have with the DPF ?
@@ivancortes5637 Get one that's made before September 2018. Those early cars don't have Adblue system. One big thing less to go wrong. Other than that, make sure your oil pump is fine. It's worth it to check that when doing the timing belt. The rest is just normal diesel engine stuff. The engine is durable, but in some point of time it will probably need injectors, turbo and high pressure fuel pump renewed. With all that done I would be surprised if it didn't last 300k miles - provided you are sensible with oil changes.
I put 50,000 miles on my 2018. No big issues, never replaced the battery. Sunroof did get “stuck” and wiring to the back up lights failed on one side. Car was so good, i bought another one in 2023!
@@ruiqianren9405 Yeah thats how it goes usually. I can even say that many German cars are more reliable to 50k miles than Japanese, after that sht hits the fan on many
I owned an Alfa 147 for three years in Dubai and everyone told me to get rid of it when the warranty was up. I never had a single issue with the car, but out of fear, I bought a Mercedes Benz C230K with an AMG kit in it. Worst car I ever owned, everything broke down or malfunctioned on that thing. After 18 Months I offloaded it for a Range Rover, kept it for about six months and got rid of it when I left Dubai. Probably a good thing too, seeing how badly reliable those things are. Now I drive a Kia Stinger. It’s been brilliant and trouble free.
Dude, Alfa Romeo > Mercedes AMG > Range Rover > Kia is one of the most stereotypically unreliable series of cars I could think of haha. Throw a Jaguar, Audi, or Fiat in there to complete the set.😛 I'm glad you've had good experiences with your Alfa and Kia, though. Just FYI, Kia/Hyundai doesn't have an especially good reputation, either -- it's better than Land Rover, sure, but still not great.
I owned a 2017 Giulia Ti (veloce) and sold it at around 55K miles. It was the best car I've ever owned (I've owned 50), it was mostly trouble-free (I had to replace the factory battery, under warranty), and I only sold it because I needed something bigger. But I still regret selling it!
HOORAY, I finally found a website that gives balanced and researched reviews. Well done guys, I don't care if my car does 5.4 or 6.4 seconds for 0 to 100. What I do care about is if it suits my needs as we are all different with different needs. I have owned a Giulia and now have a Stelvio mainly because at 6'4" I found it difficult to get in and out of and so did my missus. Loved the car and it was trouble free but it did not have height adjustable front seat belts like the Stelvio and a few other small things that convinced us to trade up. Keep up the good work on the website and I will keep suggesting it to my friends and acquaintances................cheers
Had a Giulia Veloce on lease for 3 years, man I miss that car , Misano Blue , Yellow Callipers, 19” dark hole alloys . Every petrol stop would take ages because I’d get stopped by people admiring it and asking if it got the “Ferrari Engine “ obviously I had to explain it was a 4 pot but it just goes to show that even lower models than the QV looked exotic.
fun fact: the reason for that is because the QV was actually developed first then the regular models were made after, hence the reason why the lower trims look similar - just covered the aero slits etc
I went from a Boxster S to Giulia Quad and man.... like night and day. German cars are just kind of dead. It's hard to explain, but unless you go really really high up the totem poll in Mercedes, Porsche etc they just don't have any life in them without major modification. I took the Quad for a test drive and I fell in love. That's not even hyperbole lol. You will love these cars. If BMW is a graveyard full of ghosts, Alfa is a Spring day, the kids are playing in the park and the sun is always shining when you hit the go peddle.
It was the switch from mechanical/hydraulic tech to digital. The whole point of a German car was the superior mechanical steering and breaking and throttle. When auto world moved to digital servos Mercedes/BMW/etc just became overpriced Hyundais. They are in a big identity crisis. Italians always focused more on overall styling and driver experience so they still have something going on even in the digital age.
I adore these! They’re beautiful and has far more appeal than a carpark full of BMWs and Audis. The Car Wizard over in the States has found the modern Alfas especially the V6 engine to be very reliable indeed! Great video dude
Regarding electrical gremlins, there is no silly procedure about powering off the car. There is an extremely common issue of the volume button getting stuck down. This drains the battery. I see multiple of these a day working on these cars, it logs a DTC.
@@EL8888 The system I installed is from ENG-Custom. Cost me about 600AUD delivered from Italy. I installed it myself in a couple hours. It's a plug and play system so pretty straight forward but it is fiddly and you need to be flexible to get to the factory infotainment module.
I’m at 95k miles on my 2019 Giulia and my only issue was the sunroof replacement which was 4k, cars reliable but when something breaks then be ready to spend a nice chunk of cash 💰
Stelvio owner here. Handling is spot on and power is better than anything else in the 4 cylinder class. 60k miles and I’ve only had to replace a battery and a thermostat.
My 18 Monte Carlo blue Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio is getting delivered from Maimi up to New York now,paid about 45 k plus financing,.Looking forward to its arrival
The problem is, that the people who purchased that model in that colour, new, know that everyone else wants that combination, so unfortunately for you, the price is not going to drop to where you would like it to.
I’ve had a Giulia Veloce for two years. Absolute dream to drive, no issues whatsoever, my wife went from rolling her eyes to wanting to drive it every day. The only thing that annoys me is the environmentally friendly “stop engine at traffic lights” thing which I turn off the moment I get into the car. I would highly recommend buying one.
I was out for a drive 2 weeks ago in central Victoria in my 68 Mustang & one of these came towards me through the hills. I gotta say, even in white it was bloody gorgeous!😍👍🏼😎
Sir I have followed several of your vids. I am owner and passionate about my Alfa. Purchased from a private owner who bought new and another passionate owner. Shipped to QLD as dealers up here suck big time. My Giulia is a daily driver currently with 2 child seats. There is only 1 better looking sedan around also Italian. You 100% nailed this car in your vid and I thank you. I have beefed stopped in car parks and at Bunnings driving my car. I too have had my share of electronic gremlins notably the stop start that has stopped but won’t start. Other than that I have 4 spare relays in door card, a new battery and fob battery replaced I am confident in my car. The only thing I must say I have some concerns is the run flat tyres on distance trips. Thanks for you comprehensive assessment and true rating. I love my wife and children I love my Giulia.
Don't ever change... ReDriven videos just make you smile :) my 2 cents... love to see a review of the 2011-2018 Peugeot 508 (wagon), keep the euro cars coming!
on my 3rd Giulia and my 2nd Quad - just had to have one in Montreal Green with yellow callipers. Awesome car to drive, puts a smile on my face each time I get behind the wheel. Not had any issues with any of my Guilias, but have always had them serviced at the right times.
3 cars in 6 years. First was a Giulia Veloce in Misano Blue, absolutely loved it. Kept it two years as I had the itch to have a Quad. Wanted a Montreal Green one but dealer couldnt get them so I bought a Silver one which they had in stock. Kept that just under a year as the factory had got back to full production and I could order one in green to my spec. had the green one 2.5 years so far.@@GITSSAC
I’m in Arizona USA. I have a 2019 Stelvio and I love it. The sunroof did get stuck closed. It’s the cable. Dealer fixed it for free. Battery was also replaced at two years for free. Batteries dont last long in the desert heat.
I drive a Alfa 159 Sportswagon for many years without any problems. My Alfa has the C8 rims, Gun metal gray exterior and cognac leather interior. Bella! 🇮🇹
Oh I laughed so much at the Italian Film Noir-esque safety highlights! One reason why absolutely love this channel. The mechanic issues are exactly what affects any modern car.
Long time Dutch 159 owner. Pondering about a 280hp Stelvio for its room to replace the SW, found this comprehensive review. Like the honest comments listed from practice, will take away a few interesting points. Thank you Adam and Jim, enjoyed watching! 😊
The "battery voltage" issue is because of the stop/start functionality. Using it drains the battery, and as it's an AGM battery they don't do well with consistent discharging and recharging. Disable the S/S system every time you get into the vehicle and you won't have issues. You can also get an easy to install dongle that'll do it for you automatically. This advice goes for just about any stellantis vehicle with S/S systems
I'm a certified Stellantis master technician. Don't use stop start unless you don't mind replacing your battery every 2 years. Just google stop start eliminator for the dongle @@RandomYTStuff
Not in my case, new battery, many gremlins, settled down, the start stop has never worked and the battery holds the voltage okay. So there are cars out there with gremlins that are not battery issues, I've read about this on many Alfa sites. I can live the car fine, I don't want to leave it at the dealer who may spend days trying to find a glitch that may or may not be detected and solved but cost a fortune.
I love my Veloce, bought new in Oct 22, used every day and not garaged, 12,000 trouble free and very enjoyable miles. Stands out from the crowd, especially in Misano Blue, it’s wonderful to drive and the best Alfa saloon in 30 years ( the gap since my last one - which was also rear wheel drive). I cannot do anything else other that totally recommend them!🥰🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@@robertfonovic3551see what public opinions spread on SM do. As Clarkson said “you’re not a real car person unless you’ve owned an Alfa Romeo”. I am a car person 200%. Thanks.
Bought a brand new car back in 2017 and it's still in my driveway. 😉 It has 83K miles on the clock and only small issues; that's it. Still in love... Will upgrade once a completely new model comes out, but no reason to do so now as it's reliable, puts a smile on my face, and since it's paid off, I only pay for maintenance and service + insurrance, which is peanuts. 😉
You won't get a new model I'm afraid. Stellantis is going full electric with common chassis which have none of the AR DNA, like the Giorgio chassis in the Giulia (I owned a Veloce, best chassis ever, it's made for a sports car, which explains the QF is also based on it, with 500 HP under the hood, that says it all). Europe and its electrification nonsense... (I'm European, I know what's happening... and coming, sadly...)
@@gregorymatthies5297 but I'll also prob buy their EV too since I live in California so they're going to phase out gas cars but I think I'm gonna go to the grave before that rven happens tbh
Absolutely love mine. It has the 'competizionne' tri-pack paint and the tan leather interior. Wonderful car. Had it for 3 years and it gets serviced on schedule. Absolutely nothing has gone wrong with it. Resale value ... well ... Solitaire automotive where I bought the car called me about a year ago and offered to buy it back off of me! My car is that good ... and if you do your research you will see the latest models actually lack some of the features of mine.
I have 176,000km on a 2017 Giulia 2.0t tuned to 228kw, there have been a few issues outside of normal maintenance, but it has been more trouble free than my wifes Golf. Also I live in a much harsher climate with an annual temperature swing from 35C to -30C, salted roads etc. If properly maintaineed these cars should do great in straya.
Bought a used US market Giulia Q4 2017, 60k on the odometer. Has both CarPlay and AndroidAuto. Apart from a temperamental battery control system in the cold weather it’s a decent car, having a lot of fun with it, steering is very tasty.
Hey how is it holding uo? Looking between a ti but i found a quad near me with 50k miles thats around the same price as the ti, any issues being “high” mileage?
I like Alfa, they're like Ferrari's less dickish and snobby but equally quirky Italian cousin, and I personally think the 33 Stradale is the most beautiful car ever made. These Giulia's look like excellent value used and they're officially on my radar thanks to this video. Great review!
I've owned BMWs before. I'm now in a 2020 Giulia TI sport carbon. I'll never go back to BMW. Drive is so much smoother than BMW. Interior leather is softer and better quality. Alfa Romeo all day long baby!!
I have a 2020 Giulia. It’s comfortable, good power, handles like a dream, looks amazing and is unique on the road. There’s 100 BMW 3 series on the road for every 1 Giulia around here. I’ve had it for about 2 years now, and no problems. Once warranty is up I’m either extending it warranty (if reasonable) or selling the car. High mileage euro cars (any brand) are a ticking time bomb.
This car would give a dog a bone. I wanted it the minute I saw it but as I was 1500km from the nearest service agent I paused. Glad to hear the positive review, I may get one yet.
I had a one for three years and loved it. However the dealership in my town closed leaving the nearest service center a two hour drive from my home. I very reluctantly traded it for a BMW and have regretted the decision ever since. They are lovely cars.
Bought a 2017 Ti Q2 with 75k miles on it about a month ago. Was one owner and well taken care of. Replaced the stock (not original) battery with an upgrade. Loving it so far. You can get Mopar maxcare warranty on it in the US which I did as a safeguard.
I'm on my second Giulia and third Alfa (1st was a 159 that I owned for 11 years, then a Giulia that I owned for six years). There wasn't anything wrong with the first Giulia when I traded it in - the timing was more to do with calculations of how long I intend to keep the new one. But the first Giulia (2017 build, gen 1) was great fun to own and largely trouble-free. Occasionally there would be a problem with a sticking valve actuator on the Multiair system which makes it run very roughly and the check engine light came on. First time I got it repaired under warranty. Second time I just waited until the problem cleared by itself (3-4 engine restarts).
The factory OEM batteries cause many electrical issues with these cars. Once the batteries start to have the slightest signs of degrading, the car starts to throw codes on the dash. Also alot of very short drives say 3km and under will case code issues, just drive thecar a good distance and the codes can go away if the battery is still good. I have had my Giulia for 5 years and its on its third battery. Apart from the battery issue, its been a great car and very reliable.
Did you replace the battery with a similar factory spec battery? I believe the solution to the battery issue is to install a more powerful battery - sorry can't give details, I just read about it on one of the forums. Fortunately I have not (yet?) had any issues with the battery on my 2020 quadrifoglio - but I do keep it on a battery tender if I'm no't going to use the car for several days.
@@edombre4637 Hi, I replaced the battery with the same spec Varta branded battery and it fixed the electrical code issues instantly. I did not change the spec just in case it overloaded some electrical components and caused any damage for some reason. To be honest it does not change the cars function when it throws the codes, I just replace the battery every 2 to 2.5 years and it fixed the issue. Cheers
@@edombre4637 I'm also curious about this. I have a 2018 giulia with 70k kilometers. Not sure when to change the battery and what brand of battery to replace it with.
@@GITSSAC the original Battery is a Varta, normaly the best you can get but in this case maybe its too weak? We dont know. Replace it with an AGM Battery, Varta or whatever brand you want. If you have Start/Stop, heated seats, heated steering wheel, H&K Hifi system i recommend the bigger battery Varta Silver Dynamic 95Ah 850A. If youre not sure just look whats written on the original batter
I bought a 2017 Q4 Giulia last year with 34k on it, it now has 56k and absolutely love the thing, very very few issues and drives better than many of the BMW and Audi vehicles I've tried. Now I want a Quad.
Yes. I should have just got a quad myself. I see that they can easily be tuned up to 700hp. While the 2.0s really only go up to 340. One guy says he got his to 400...But no way I'm doing all that to my car.
Lovely looking car. If I had the money I would definitely buy one. My only complaint is that they never made a station wagon (remembering how gorgeous the 159 wagon is).
The first car I’ve bought and it’s my favorite car of all time I can’t look at any other car the same again changed my whole pov of driving a car, an amazing work of metal art.
Got a 2020 Ti Sport Carbon, Stromboli Gray, red calipers, red interior, rare spec to find in that trim apparently. 58k miles and not one issue, drives like it’s still new!
For people wondering about reliability, European second hand listings are full of these with 300,000+ km on the clock looking like new, especially the diesels. Alfa's never had issues with mechanics. My friend has a 147 1.9 JTD with 850,000 km (yes you read that correctly), that's been tuned to 200 hp from original 150 hp for the last 600,000 km and 10 years, and he tracks it on occasion too, and that engine is smooth as butter and goes like hell.
The 159!!! I have one but I'm salivating for the Giulia after your video. But the 159 from Giorgetto Giugiaro (best designer ever, sorry Signore Ghandini) is unsurpassed
Had my 18' for a year now. Great car for the most part. Had to replace battery within the first 3 months(to be fair battery was the original), basic oil changes by myself. This year battery crapped out again randomly, gave no signs. Under warranty so exchanged it, most likely a bad battery. The coolant bleeder valve is plastic and went out on me at the 46k mile point. Had to drill it out carefully and replaced it with an upgrade lol. Will be needing brakes soon. Great car, minor inconveniences that haven't been much of a headache (have a family car while it was down for a day or 2 luckily). Car depreciates quick, bought mine for 26k and can buy a few newer year models for less now. If you're somewhat handy with a wrench and can follow forums or TH-cam videos, don't see it being much of an issue! Just know insurance is a premium, went from $180 on my 14'is350 to $230 on my alfa, registration was also around $300+ if i remember correctly here in California.
Had a 2017 Veloce for about a year. Just a cracking machine to drive, nimble and agile. The engine + gearbox combo was brilliant. Really nice to look at, inside and out. Downsides - quality of the standard stereo, in-car tech, front axle geometry (a big turning radius and skipping front wheels) - especially bad when manoeuvring in icy conditions, price of spare parts IF something goes wrong (my car had a leaking front drive shaft, a new spare was over €2500 and this was not the carbon shaft going to the back). So, as a product you want/need to use every day, it's far from perfect. Nevertheless, I would consider owning it (or the Stelvio) again!
That Geometry thing you are mentioning is due to a pronounced ackermann angle studied to perform better on track :) I have it on my 2017. Anyway it has been removed in the later years because of people not knowing what it is and complaining...
@@AlessandroGenTLe Yup. Well I guess it comes down to the compromise between everyday use and track use and in which situation the Giulia is used more often.
It's not only for track use. Ackermann geometry greatly improves high speed stability and it's a key component in making the Giulia so excellent to drive. You will have the same wheel skipping feature on every proper performance car. But if you must, you can mitigate the skipping by fitting tires that have more rounded shoulders.
22-23 year models lost tilt adjust on the drivers seat. For me that was an essential item. If you want that, focus on 20/21 model years. Veloce of course!
not only that, also the adaptive suspension for base models, less noise insulation (no front fender inner cladding and behind the firewall), bonnet seals, rear door handle lights, cargo nets and hooks in the boot, the small compartment next to the steering wheel, cheaper paint, and weaker seat heating.
@@z0r33 thanks for the reminder. I remember now the dealer telling me all of this. If Honda didn’t deliver an updated type r I could have bought a veloce
Proud owner of a 21 Guilia Sprint! Love the car but not my forever spec. A QV is on the way for my wife and I but I definitely wish I got the Veloce trim. 45,000 miles on mine and I have had a problem with the turbo coolant seal but that is the only issue we have had.
I agree fully with the comment about not buying used if you can’t document meticulous maintenance and loving treatment by the original owner. I bought a 2020 Guilia with 28K miles from a high volume used car dealership. The car obviously was coming off of a lease. It had a problem with a shudder coming from the left front engine bay. Had it thoroughly checked by the selling dealership, two Alfa delearships, and a respected Porsche/European shop - not one could deduce the problem. Ended up selling after three months of ownership, luckily, to Caravana who matched my initial purchase price. I’d love to get another, but as mentioned you have to buy one with a thoroughly documented history. And hopefully have an Alfa mechanic you have faith in.
I had a '17 Ti Sport for four years. Absolutely loved it, only issue over 27k miles was the (inevitably) bad factory battery (I only mention as like Jim I recommend changing that battery, preferably with an AGM). Would love another, but it's been replaced by a combination of a CX-9 (family and all) and a '69 Alfa GTV so I've no real need or budget for another Giulia, though I watch videos like this longingly. Fantastic review btw, subscribed.
Hired one of these in Europe back in 18.. Awesome things. I never really considered buying one as I assumed they'd be a pain in the arse.. Have to say I had a feeling they might not be so bad. Just a feeling i got from driving it they were screwed together an engineered a lot better than typical. PS loved the seinfeld gag
I have a 2003 156 with nearly 250k kilometers. I am the third owner, it has been well maintained, replaced the fuel pump and air con, basic other stuff, no engine issues. It does like its oil so I have to top up but I can live with that. I can’t wait to buy a newer model and may just keep the old one.
23 Giulia Veloce here - 12k kms - no issues - average consumption 7L! Wasn't expecting that. really good fun to drive and great for long distances. Not sure i'd be so keen in regional Oz where the roads are even worse than city... but that apart, its a really good car - dare one say it the last great Alfa (switching to electric next year). Cheers.
Love mine. In 2.5 years , warranty covered a new HVAC blower motor, and I needed a new battery. Stock Italian battery is garbage. Otherwise, it has been great and fun to drive.
Still at some point you will need to replace the MultiAir module which costs about $2500-3000. If you’re under warranty it will be free but good luck after the warranty expires. It will need to be replaced every 50.000-100.000 km depending on maintenance and oil exchange intervals.
You can't replace the multiair filter on the 2.0 engine. Not without taking the entire cylinder head off. So you better hope the original owners didn't listen to Alfa regarding the oil change intervals...
Retained value.😂😂😂 Whenever I buy a car, I do not factor in resale or trade-in value. I completely write off the purchase price as a 100% loss. Do that, and you will never be frustrated at the loss. In fact, you will be pleasantly surprised that you actually got some money for it when you trade it in. 👌
I love it. But since I need space I’m getting a loaded red 2024 Stelvio Tributo Italiano. And thinking about adding a flame red 2024 MX-5 RF for fun drives on small twisty country roads we have here south of Kraków in the foothils of the mountains in Poland. And I don’t care about the depreciation. The German cars have all the charm of household appliances. I’ve had a few and I’m done with them. Thanks for a passionate review. Greetings from Poland!
After 16 years al Alfa 147, Giulietta. I wanted the Giulia. Drove it 3 times, as a test ride. Great riding. Once i drove a BMW 3 series (g21) directly after the Giulia. It felt like losing. Ride quality, equal. Insde, BMW is next level. It took me a while to accept my loss. Now i love the Bmw g21 (touring). And all still want a Giulia, on the side. In Visconti green
How does smart power steering system behave in your BMW? Many G20 owners report that the car gets very unstable when driving fast and it feels like it cannot drive straight especially in windy weather.
I went from BMW to Alfa. The beemer was boring to drive and would not track straight on the freeway, suspension also stunk. I have two Giulia's and they are epic.
@@milosza1384 i’m happy with it. Tur off auto steering helps a lot of you go 180km/h. When you are at 100-110km/h auto steering is amazingly relaxing. Basically use it when you want it.
@@frankbaars1880 it is good that you can switch it off. Many users report that they can’t, apparently due to a software update the option to turn off the auto steering disappeared for some. Perhaps depends on model year of the car.
I have a 2.0 Giulia and it's a joy to drive but I've had loads of electrical gremlins even after replacing the Battery, the most annoying is the heated rear window not working.. Other gremlins have settled down only left with start/stop fail, never worked and charging warning light which stays on but is not an issue as regards alternator as voltage and charging is good.. Starts every time now although once about two years ago it went dead for no apparent reason and needed a jump start. But all in all I like the Giulia, it's so comfortable to steer and drive, engine is powerful and smooth and the car just looks great.
@@rlsedition definitely knew but a new serpentine belt every 30,000 miles at two grand pop at the dealer is nuts. They have to take the entire front end off the car. It’s an 8 hour job
@@2steaksandwiches665 That engine was designed by Ferrari, so what did you expect? I'd wager the hot versions of the BMW 3 series require similar maintenance (and Audi RS, Merc AMG).
@@2steaksandwiches665 Yeah, just like my '06 Audi A3 4-cylinder, which required a cam belt change at 100k miles, which meant an $800 repair cost (back in 2014) for a $35 belt. In case you hadn't noticed, cars are not engineered for easy maintenance and performance versions are far worse than average. If you want to play, you have to pay.
Italian cars - Fiat, Alfa Romeo and now the dead Lancia were branded problematic because the German car brands bought the media and same media was smearing Fiat group. I had 2009 Alfa 159, it was awesome car never had a problem.
Trying to describe the feeling of driving a Giulia is like trying to explain the color red to someone who has never had sight. It has to be experienced. It is that special.
Giorgio platform was engineered to be on a par with the very best of the time, it has been used even for Maserati. Honestly it’s the pinnacle of normal/affordable Italian cars, we will never see it again as Stellantis is building things in a more French way…. So if you like it, just buy it, you won’t regret it.
How ignorant, it is Stellantis that saved A R, revived it and build these.
@@rc666sorry but you are wrong, don’t mess FCA with Stellantis… look at the dates, this platform was born under FCA, Stellantis arrived years later.
@@rc666 Totally wrong. This car is 100% FCA. 3 cil FCA engines are saving Stellantis from PSA Puretech disaster.
Bought my Quad in 2018, carbon seats and brakes. Sold it late last year after 50,000 trouble free kms, not a single warning light.
Also scored my first 3 services free and 6 year warranty.
Such a beast, best car I’ve ever owned.
So why sell it?
Already lost 40k in value, he didn't want to see it go to zero
@@kimzor1989depreciation never mattered to me. I keep cars a long time. With payments on a new car being $1000 a month now, you’re better off fixing your car. Keeping miles off a car is like me not banging my girlfriend to keep miles off her for the next guy.
@@kimzor1989idiot
@@kimzor1989such a pathetic comment
Wow, never see jim be so positive towards a European car
My thought exactly
Megane rs :)
Jim should watch TH-cam for mechanical tips regardless of experience someone else can show you an easier method
Until it breaks😂
@@tristanyoung1247 Which is not common.
YES! buy one! I've owned one since 2019 and it is FABULOUS. No issues other than indeed a battery replacement and if you maintain it as prescribed it will put a smile on your face. You realise every time you drive something unique and beautiful and you'll look back at it every time you park it.
Beautiful car👍
Puts a smile on my face too. Hang on a minute just let me go down to the garage and have a look. Yep still smiling ❤
Indeed the same story, about my Mito Benzina!💚🤍❤️
Same. Battery.
Nope, I had the turbo go out twice and it took the dealership over a month to fix it each time. The left front break caliper froze as well. Fortunately the dealership fixed all of it for free.
We have a new veloce from 2023, replacing a merc 250. Much better than the merc to drive. Great car no issues first 12 months.
Bought a Giulia in 2019. I can never buy another car because nothing will ever be this good. Absolutely love it.
Thank you for a brilliant review. Have owned 3 Alfas over 34 years: a Berlina, an Alfetta and for 24 years a new 1984 Giulietta 2L.
The last was only sold due to serious health issues. All were serviced regularly by specialist Alfa Mechanics and gave very little trouble.
We so miss our Alfa still.
As I pray for a miraculous recovery I so long to own a Giulia Veloce.
Now all you have done is to increase my craving for one more Alfa before I die. You have a lot to answer for!
hope you get one, and all the best with your health. I too was diagnosed with a serious medical condition, and the first thing I did was I went out and bought a quadrifoglio. It makes me feel fantastic every time I look at it, not to mention how stunning it is to drive.
@@edombre4637 bahahaha
@@robertfonovic3551 can you explain why you feel the need to laugh at someone for being ill?
@@EggooYT i think he was laughing at the remedy of buying a quadrifoglio, not the condition?
Am finally suddenly picking up after a terrible time with post prostate cancer radiation therapy.
And immediately my thoughts have turned to buying my 4th Alfa, a Giulia - probably a Veloce. Think of me and I shall keep you my fellow Alfista informed. 😊
So happy to see a positive non-italian review of this car, my car (as italian i must admit, we're not always very objective about italian cars).
Unfortunately, in Italy is very expensive to own the VELOCE with the petrol engine (about 1k € of taxes every year and don't even get me started on insurance) so i've got a used, and wonderfully maintained, 2018 VELOCE with the 2.2 diesel 210 bhp. Still an amazing car to watch and to drive, no big drama so far in 2 years of ownership and almost 100k total
Any recomendation to avoid problems with the DPF on Giulia ?Which is the use that you usually give it ?
I would like to buy a Diesel 2.2 but I’m worried about the problems that I could have with the DPF ?
@@ivancortes5637 Ι own a 2.2 diesel (REG 7/2018), 180 hp, very good so far, no issues with the DPF
Unfortunately the sound doesn't match the style.
Every time I see one and hear a diesel, I'm a little sad, as the driver was so close to perfection
@@riveronnnnwhat do you mean? for a super sedan would be great just petrol?
@@ivancortes5637 Get one that's made before September 2018. Those early cars don't have Adblue system. One big thing less to go wrong. Other than that, make sure your oil pump is fine. It's worth it to check that when doing the timing belt. The rest is just normal diesel engine stuff. The engine is durable, but in some point of time it will probably need injectors, turbo and high pressure fuel pump renewed. With all that done I would be surprised if it didn't last 300k miles - provided you are sensible with oil changes.
I put 50,000 miles on my 2018. No big issues, never replaced the battery. Sunroof did get “stuck” and wiring to the back up lights failed on one side. Car was so good, i bought another one in 2023!
With respect it's not time yet. My Mercedes was fine for 80,000 miles but within the next 10,000 miles it basically killed itself
What did u do about the stuck sunroof?
@@ruiqianren9405 Yeah thats how it goes usually. I can even say that many German cars are more reliable to 50k miles than Japanese, after that sht hits the fan on many
I owned an Alfa 147 for three years in Dubai and everyone told me to get rid of it when the warranty was up. I never had a single issue with the car, but out of fear, I bought a Mercedes Benz C230K with an AMG kit in it. Worst car I ever owned, everything broke down or malfunctioned on that thing. After 18 Months I offloaded it for a Range Rover, kept it for about six months and got rid of it when I left Dubai. Probably a good thing too, seeing how badly reliable those things are. Now I drive a Kia Stinger. It’s been brilliant and trouble free.
Dude, Alfa Romeo > Mercedes AMG > Range Rover > Kia is one of the most stereotypically unreliable series of cars I could think of haha. Throw a Jaguar, Audi, or Fiat in there to complete the set.😛
I'm glad you've had good experiences with your Alfa and Kia, though. Just FYI, Kia/Hyundai doesn't have an especially good reputation, either -- it's better than Land Rover, sure, but still not great.
Alfa does have minor electric quirks, but Mercedes is one giant electric problem on wheels and has been for 40+ years.
I owned a 2017 Giulia Ti (veloce) and sold it at around 55K miles. It was the best car I've ever owned (I've owned 50), it was mostly trouble-free (I had to replace the factory battery, under warranty), and I only sold it because I needed something bigger. But I still regret selling it!
HOORAY, I finally found a website that gives balanced and researched reviews. Well done guys, I don't care if my car does 5.4 or 6.4 seconds for 0 to 100. What I do care about is if it suits my needs as we are all different with different needs. I have owned a Giulia and now have a Stelvio mainly because at 6'4" I found it difficult to get in and out of and so did my missus. Loved the car and it was trouble free but it did not have height adjustable front seat belts like the Stelvio and a few other small things that convinced us to trade up. Keep up the good work on the website and I will keep suggesting it to my friends and acquaintances................cheers
Had a Giulia Veloce on lease for 3 years, man I miss that car , Misano Blue , Yellow Callipers, 19” dark hole alloys . Every petrol stop would take ages because I’d get stopped by people admiring it and asking if it got the “Ferrari Engine “ obviously I had to explain it was a 4 pot but it just goes to show that even lower models than the QV looked exotic.
fun fact: the reason for that is because the QV was actually developed first then the regular models were made after, hence the reason why the lower trims look similar - just covered the aero slits etc
Here too, my Veloce gets lots of attention, and being Italian, she absolutely loves it 😂
Took delivery of a Giulia Quadrifoglio just a couple of days ago. Amazing timing guys 😂😂 keep it up, you're doing awesome work!
How’s it help up so far?
I went from a Boxster S to Giulia Quad and man.... like night and day. German cars are just kind of dead. It's hard to explain, but unless you go really really high up the totem poll in Mercedes, Porsche etc they just don't have any life in them without major modification. I took the Quad for a test drive and I fell in love. That's not even hyperbole lol. You will love these cars. If BMW is a graveyard full of ghosts, Alfa is a Spring day, the kids are playing in the park and the sun is always shining when you hit the go peddle.
It was the switch from mechanical/hydraulic tech to digital. The whole point of a German car was the superior mechanical steering and breaking and throttle. When auto world moved to digital servos Mercedes/BMW/etc just became overpriced Hyundais. They are in a big identity crisis.
Italians always focused more on overall styling and driver experience so they still have something going on even in the digital age.
I adore these! They’re beautiful and has far more appeal than a carpark full of BMWs and Audis. The Car Wizard over in the States has found the modern Alfas especially the V6 engine to be very reliable indeed! Great video dude
IMO.. 'Car wizard' is simply a self agrandising Pompous Fool. But I digress.
Regarding electrical gremlins, there is no silly procedure about powering off the car. There is an extremely common issue of the volume button getting stuck down. This drains the battery. I see multiple of these a day working on these cars, it logs a DTC.
I've had a 2018 for a year now and had no electrical issues. I'm getting it serviced at 40k mi and changing the rear pads/rotors.
Loved the review mate, was great to meet you in person!
Thanks for featuring the car Charles, how did you get the Android Auto in? Do you mind sharing some resources? Cheers
Shut up
RayBans are a must have in my Alfa too. =pp
@@EL8888 The system I installed is from ENG-Custom. Cost me about 600AUD delivered from Italy. I installed it myself in a couple hours. It's a plug and play system so pretty straight forward but it is fiddly and you need to be flexible to get to the factory infotainment module.
I’m at 95k miles on my 2019 Giulia and my only issue was the sunroof replacement which was 4k, cars reliable but when something breaks then be ready to spend a nice chunk of cash 💰
Stelvio owner here. Handling is spot on and power is better than anything else in the 4 cylinder class. 60k miles and I’ve only had to replace a battery and a thermostat.
I've certainly got my eyes out for a Quadrofoglio in green with the optional Sparco seats. Can't wait till it's in my price range.
My 18 Monte Carlo blue Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio is getting delivered from Maimi up to New York now,paid about 45 k plus financing,.Looking forward to its arrival
The problem is, that the people who purchased that model in that colour, new, know that everyone else wants that combination, so unfortunately for you, the price is not going to drop to where you would like it to.
@@frankbasile3662how’s it been?
I'd never swap my Giulia for a BMW Audi or even an MB, this car is simply brilliant in every way❤️
Just bought 2021 yesterday and was having some buyers regret trying to sneak in until this moment. Thank you for sharing.
@@bett-onbenefits9341 The handling alone will sell you on em. Plus, the car just flows through the corners its amazing,
I’ve had a Giulia Veloce for two years. Absolute dream to drive, no issues whatsoever, my wife went from rolling her eyes to wanting to drive it every day. The only thing that annoys me is the environmentally friendly “stop engine at traffic lights” thing which I turn off the moment I get into the car.
I would highly recommend buying one.
I was out for a drive 2 weeks ago in central Victoria in my 68 Mustang & one of these came towards me through the hills. I gotta say, even in white it was bloody gorgeous!😍👍🏼😎
Sir I have followed several of your vids. I am owner and passionate about my Alfa. Purchased from a private owner who bought new and another passionate owner. Shipped to QLD as dealers up here suck big time. My Giulia is a daily driver currently with 2 child seats. There is only 1 better looking sedan around also Italian. You 100% nailed this car in your vid and I thank you. I have beefed stopped in car parks and at Bunnings driving my car. I too have had my share of electronic gremlins notably the stop start that has stopped but won’t start. Other than that I have 4 spare relays in door card, a new battery and fob battery replaced I am confident in my car. The only thing I must say I have some concerns is the run flat tyres on distance trips. Thanks for you comprehensive assessment and true rating. I love my wife and children I love my Giulia.
Don't ever change... ReDriven videos just make you smile :) my 2 cents... love to see a review of the 2011-2018 Peugeot 508 (wagon), keep the euro cars coming!
We love our 2021 Giulia Ti! After 2.5 years and 25,000 trouble free miles, most enjoyable car we've ever owned!
on my 3rd Giulia and my 2nd Quad - just had to have one in Montreal Green with yellow callipers. Awesome car to drive, puts a smile on my face each time I get behind the wheel. Not had any issues with any of my Guilias, but have always had them serviced at the right times.
Woah 3 cars in about 7 years?
3 cars in 6 years. First was a Giulia Veloce in Misano Blue, absolutely loved it. Kept it two years as I had the itch to have a Quad. Wanted a Montreal Green one but dealer couldnt get them so I bought a Silver one which they had in stock. Kept that just under a year as the factory had got back to full production and I could order one in green to my spec. had the green one 2.5 years so far.@@GITSSAC
I’m in Arizona USA. I have a 2019 Stelvio and I love it. The sunroof did get stuck closed. It’s the cable. Dealer fixed it for free. Battery was also replaced at two years for free. Batteries dont last long in the desert heat.
I drive a Alfa 159 Sportswagon for many years without any problems. My Alfa has the C8 rims, Gun metal gray exterior and cognac leather interior. Bella! 🇮🇹
Oh I laughed so much at the Italian Film Noir-esque safety highlights! One reason why absolutely love this channel. The mechanic issues are exactly what affects any modern car.
Long time Dutch 159 owner. Pondering about a 280hp Stelvio for its room to replace the SW, found this comprehensive review. Like the honest comments listed from practice, will take away a few interesting points. Thank you Adam and Jim, enjoyed watching! 😊
This has got to be THE BEST episode ever!!
The "battery voltage" issue is because of the stop/start functionality. Using it drains the battery, and as it's an AGM battery they don't do well with consistent discharging and recharging. Disable the S/S system every time you get into the vehicle and you won't have issues. You can also get an easy to install dongle that'll do it for you automatically. This advice goes for just about any stellantis vehicle with S/S systems
can you provide more info / link?
I'm a certified Stellantis master technician. Don't use stop start unless you don't mind replacing your battery every 2 years. Just google stop start eliminator for the dongle @@RandomYTStuff
Not in my case, new battery, many gremlins, settled down, the start stop has never worked and the battery holds the voltage okay. So there are cars out there with gremlins that are not battery issues, I've read about this on many Alfa sites. I can live the car fine, I don't want to leave it at the dealer who may spend days trying to find a glitch that may or may not be detected and solved but cost a fortune.
the italian movie scene was gold 🤣
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It's just Chrysler junk made in Italy. It is NOT a Italian car
I never even considered this car as I thought they would be too expensive. Definitely will look into one now.
I love my Veloce, bought new in Oct 22, used every day and not garaged, 12,000 trouble free and very enjoyable miles.
Stands out from the crowd, especially in Misano Blue, it’s wonderful to drive and the best Alfa saloon in 30 years ( the gap since my last one - which was also rear wheel drive).
I cannot do anything else other that totally recommend them!🥰🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Now at 21,000 miles and zero issues. Highly recommended ❤
Have the 2022 Guila veloce,this cars steering is next level and acceleration,handling and comfort is outstanding,
2022 sales were... 10?
@@robertfonovic3551 a lot of people are missing out on an exceptional car
@@robertfonovic3551 a lot of people are missing out on an exceptional car
A lot of people are missing out on an exceptional car
@@robertfonovic3551see what public opinions spread on SM do. As Clarkson said “you’re not a real car person unless you’ve owned an Alfa Romeo”. I am a car person 200%. Thanks.
Bought a brand new car back in 2017 and it's still in my driveway. 😉 It has 83K miles on the clock and only small issues; that's it. Still in love... Will upgrade once a completely new model comes out, but no reason to do so now as it's reliable, puts a smile on my face, and since it's paid off, I only pay for maintenance and service + insurrance, which is peanuts. 😉
You won't get a new model I'm afraid. Stellantis is going full electric with common chassis which have none of the AR DNA, like the Giorgio chassis in the Giulia (I owned a Veloce, best chassis ever, it's made for a sports car, which explains the QF is also based on it, with 500 HP under the hood, that says it all). Europe and its electrification nonsense... (I'm European, I know what's happening... and coming, sadly...)
@@guywerbThe new 2024 has a facelift and digital gauges
@@zeppkfwbut that is the last of the line mores the pity.
@@gregorymatthies5297 Makes it even more valuable imo. A true collector piece that you can drive just like how a lot of the old JDM cars are.
@@gregorymatthies5297 but I'll also prob buy their EV too since I live in California so they're going to phase out gas cars but I think I'm gonna go to the grave before that rven happens tbh
This is my dream car. Well to be exact my ‘realistically possible to achieve’ dream car.
Same!
The fact that they're cheap used cheaper than a used q50 is genuinely insane.
Absolutely love mine. It has the 'competizionne' tri-pack paint and the tan leather interior. Wonderful car. Had it for 3 years and it gets serviced on schedule. Absolutely nothing has gone wrong with it. Resale value ... well ... Solitaire automotive where I bought the car called me about a year ago and offered to buy it back off of me! My car is that good ... and if you do your research you will see the latest models actually lack some of the features of mine.
I have 176,000km on a 2017 Giulia 2.0t tuned to 228kw, there have been a few issues outside of normal maintenance, but it has been more trouble free than my wifes Golf. Also I live in a much harsher climate with an annual temperature swing from 35C to -30C, salted roads etc.
If properly maintaineed these cars should do great in straya.
Bought a used US market Giulia Q4 2017, 60k on the odometer. Has both CarPlay and AndroidAuto. Apart from a temperamental battery control system in the cold weather it’s a decent car, having a lot of fun with it, steering is very tasty.
Hey how is it holding uo? Looking between a ti but i found a quad near me with 50k miles thats around the same price as the ti, any issues being “high” mileage?
I like Alfa, they're like Ferrari's less dickish and snobby but equally quirky Italian cousin, and I personally think the 33 Stradale is the most beautiful car ever made. These Giulia's look like excellent value used and they're officially on my radar thanks to this video. Great review!
They’re absolutely brilliant. Best in class.
I've owned BMWs before. I'm now in a 2020 Giulia TI sport carbon. I'll never go back to BMW. Drive is so much smoother than BMW. Interior leather is softer and better quality. Alfa Romeo all day long baby!!
Have you had any problems with it? Looking to buy one
I have a 2020 Giulia. It’s comfortable, good power, handles like a dream, looks amazing and is unique on the road. There’s 100 BMW 3 series on the road for every 1 Giulia around here. I’ve had it for about 2 years now, and no problems. Once warranty is up I’m either extending it warranty (if reasonable) or selling the car. High mileage euro cars (any brand) are a ticking time bomb.
How many miles?
@@googoogaagaa5550 I’m currently on 22k miles.
This car would give a dog a bone. I wanted it the minute I saw it but as I was 1500km from the nearest service agent I paused. Glad to hear the positive review, I may get one yet.
I had a one for three years and loved it. However the dealership in my town closed leaving the nearest service center a two hour drive from my home. I very reluctantly traded it for a BMW and have regretted the decision ever since. They are lovely cars.
Bought a 2017 Ti Q2 with 75k miles on it about a month ago. Was one owner and well taken care of. Replaced the stock (not original) battery with an upgrade.
Loving it so far. You can get Mopar maxcare warranty on it in the US which I did as a safeguard.
Me too! 8 years, 100,000 miles from in service date!
I thought the car still had to be in warranty to get maxcare? If not, that definitely changes things for me!
I'm on my second Giulia and third Alfa (1st was a 159 that I owned for 11 years, then a Giulia that I owned for six years). There wasn't anything wrong with the first Giulia when I traded it in - the timing was more to do with calculations of how long I intend to keep the new one. But the first Giulia (2017 build, gen 1) was great fun to own and largely trouble-free. Occasionally there would be a problem with a sticking valve actuator on the Multiair system which makes it run very roughly and the check engine light came on. First time I got it repaired under warranty. Second time I just waited until the problem cleared by itself (3-4 engine restarts).
The factory OEM batteries cause many electrical issues with these cars. Once the batteries start to have the slightest signs of degrading, the car starts to throw codes on the dash. Also alot of very short drives say 3km and under will case code issues, just drive thecar a good distance and the codes can go away if the battery is still good. I have had my Giulia for 5 years and its on its third battery. Apart from the battery issue, its been a great car and very reliable.
Did you replace the battery with a similar factory spec battery? I believe the solution to the battery issue is to install a more powerful battery - sorry can't give details, I just read about it on one of the forums. Fortunately I have not (yet?) had any issues with the battery on my 2020 quadrifoglio - but I do keep it on a battery tender if I'm no't going to use the car for several days.
@@edombre4637 Hi, I replaced the battery with the same spec Varta branded battery and it fixed the electrical code issues instantly. I did not change the spec just in case it overloaded some electrical components and caused any damage for some reason. To be honest it does not change the cars function when it throws the codes, I just replace the battery every 2 to 2.5 years and it fixed the issue. Cheers
@@edombre4637 I'm also curious about this. I have a 2018 giulia with 70k kilometers. Not sure when to change the battery and what brand of battery to replace it with.
@@GITSSAC the original Battery is a Varta, normaly the best you can get but in this case maybe its too weak? We dont know.
Replace it with an AGM Battery, Varta or whatever brand you want.
If you have Start/Stop, heated seats, heated steering wheel, H&K Hifi system i recommend the bigger battery Varta Silver Dynamic 95Ah 850A.
If youre not sure just look whats written on the original batter
The original battery is Varta too but maybe its too weak because its a EFB instead of a AGM? We dont know
I bought a 2017 Q4 Giulia last year with 34k on it, it now has 56k and absolutely love the thing, very very few issues and drives better than many of the BMW and Audi vehicles I've tried. Now I want a Quad.
Yes. I should have just got a quad myself. I see that they can easily be tuned up to 700hp. While the 2.0s really only go up to 340. One guy says he got his to 400...But no way I'm doing all that to my car.
Lovely looking car. If I had the money I would definitely buy one. My only complaint is that they never made a station wagon (remembering how gorgeous the 159 wagon is).
The first car I’ve bought and it’s my favorite car of all time I can’t look at any other car the same again changed my whole pov of driving a car, an amazing work of metal art.
Great review, more Alfas please! Would love to see a Brera
Got a 2020 Ti Sport Carbon, Stromboli Gray, red calipers, red interior, rare spec to find in that trim apparently. 58k miles and not one issue, drives like it’s still new!
I have always liked the look of these cars. Owning an Alfa Romeo is a bucket list item.
For people wondering about reliability, European second hand listings are full of these with 300,000+ km on the clock looking like new, especially the diesels. Alfa's never had issues with mechanics. My friend has a 147 1.9 JTD with 850,000 km (yes you read that correctly), that's been tuned to 200 hp from original 150 hp for the last 600,000 km and 10 years, and he tracks it on occasion too, and that engine is smooth as butter and goes like hell.
Classic Italian Friday arvo electronics. Nice.
These are truly gorgeous vehicles.
Would love to see a 156 or 147 GTA.
The 159!!! I have one but I'm salivating for the Giulia after your video. But the 159 from Giorgetto Giugiaro (best designer ever, sorry Signore Ghandini) is unsurpassed
Finally! Someone who thinks the 159 is beautiful as well!!
Had my 18' for a year now. Great car for the most part. Had to replace battery within the first 3 months(to be fair battery was the original), basic oil changes by myself. This year battery crapped out again randomly, gave no signs. Under warranty so exchanged it, most likely a bad battery. The coolant bleeder valve is plastic and went out on me at the 46k mile point. Had to drill it out carefully and replaced it with an upgrade lol. Will be needing brakes soon. Great car, minor inconveniences that haven't been much of a headache (have a family car while it was down for a day or 2 luckily). Car depreciates quick, bought mine for 26k and can buy a few newer year models for less now. If you're somewhat handy with a wrench and can follow forums or TH-cam videos, don't see it being much of an issue! Just know insurance is a premium, went from $180 on my 14'is350 to $230 on my alfa, registration was also around $300+ if i remember correctly here in California.
Had a 2017 Veloce for about a year. Just a cracking machine to drive, nimble and agile. The engine + gearbox combo was brilliant. Really nice to look at, inside and out. Downsides - quality of the standard stereo, in-car tech, front axle geometry (a big turning radius and skipping front wheels) - especially bad when manoeuvring in icy conditions, price of spare parts IF something goes wrong (my car had a leaking front drive shaft, a new spare was over €2500 and this was not the carbon shaft going to the back). So, as a product you want/need to use every day, it's far from perfect. Nevertheless, I would consider owning it (or the Stelvio) again!
That Geometry thing you are mentioning is due to a pronounced ackermann angle studied to perform better on track :) I have it on my 2017. Anyway it has been removed in the later years because of people not knowing what it is and complaining...
@@AlessandroGenTLe Yup. Well I guess it comes down to the compromise between everyday use and track use and in which situation the Giulia is used more often.
It's not only for track use. Ackermann geometry greatly improves high speed stability and it's a key component in making the Giulia so excellent to drive. You will have the same wheel skipping feature on every proper performance car. But if you must, you can mitigate the skipping by fitting tires that have more rounded shoulders.
@@totuudentorvi7781 Thanks for explaining, good to know!
Exactly why I own a used 2020 Q4 Ti Sport!
Me too, and I'd buy one again.
I got one since February 24 and I love every minute of it. Totally in line with the ReDriven Review.
22-23 year models lost tilt adjust on the drivers seat. For me that was an essential item. If you want that, focus on 20/21 model years. Veloce of course!
not only that, also the adaptive suspension for base models, less noise insulation (no front fender inner cladding and behind the firewall), bonnet seals, rear door handle lights, cargo nets and hooks in the boot, the small compartment next to the steering wheel, cheaper paint, and weaker seat heating.
@@z0r33 thanks for the reminder. I remember now the dealer telling me all of this. If Honda didn’t deliver an updated type r I could have bought a veloce
My 2022 Veloce has the tilt function build date 03/22.
@@z0r33 My 2022 Veloce build date 03/22 has everything you stated except the adaptive suspension.
Proud owner of a 21 Guilia Sprint! Love the car but not my forever spec. A QV is on the way for my wife and I but I definitely wish I got the Veloce trim. 45,000 miles on mine and I have had a problem with the turbo coolant seal but that is the only issue we have had.
Great review, thanks. Looking forward to your review of a Stelvio.
I agree fully with the comment about not buying used if you can’t document meticulous maintenance and loving treatment by the original owner. I bought a 2020 Guilia with 28K miles from a high volume used car dealership. The car obviously was coming off of a lease. It had a problem with a shudder coming from the left front engine bay. Had it thoroughly checked by the selling dealership, two Alfa delearships, and a respected Porsche/European shop - not one could deduce the problem. Ended up selling after three months of ownership, luckily, to Caravana who matched my initial purchase price. I’d love to get another, but as mentioned you have to buy one with a thoroughly documented history. And hopefully have an Alfa mechanic you have faith in.
I had a '17 Ti Sport for four years. Absolutely loved it, only issue over 27k miles was the (inevitably) bad factory battery (I only mention as like Jim I recommend changing that battery, preferably with an AGM). Would love another, but it's been replaced by a combination of a CX-9 (family and all) and a '69 Alfa GTV so I've no real need or budget for another Giulia, though I watch videos like this longingly. Fantastic review btw, subscribed.
Hired one of these in Europe back in 18.. Awesome things. I never really considered buying one as I assumed they'd be a pain in the arse.. Have to say I had a feeling they might not be so bad. Just a feeling i got from driving it they were screwed together an engineered a lot better than typical. PS loved the seinfeld gag
BMW “How about we do the opposite” 😂😂😂😂. SO true.
And yet, so many people buy a BMW over something nice.
@@Orvieta The reason is called ´´Badge´´
@@ARIES6181 I didn't buy my Alfa Romeo Giulia over a "badge"...
@@Orvieta I know but there are many who just look at the badge, nothing else
I have a 2003 156 with nearly 250k kilometers. I am the third owner, it has been well maintained, replaced the fuel pump and air con, basic other stuff, no engine issues. It does like its oil so I have to top up but I can live with that. I can’t wait to buy a newer model and may just keep the old one.
Please do a video of your wristwatches as you seem to have some nice ones
Thank you for this video, I purchased my Alfa after watching this !
Heart over head always
23 Giulia Veloce here - 12k kms - no issues - average consumption 7L! Wasn't expecting that. really good fun to drive and great for long distances. Not sure i'd be so keen in regional Oz where the roads are even worse than city... but that apart, its a really good car - dare one say it the last great Alfa (switching to electric next year). Cheers.
I had a 2017 Veloce for 4 years, put 30k on the clock and only had a couple of niggles. Upgraded to a 2021 Stelvio Quad, what a beast!
In Louisiana, the closest dealer is in Pensacola, FL. It’s the only thing stopping me from buying a Guilia.
Gives me a stiffie just looking at it. It's unusual that an Italian car has electrical issues 😂
My 2017 Ti is a lovely money pit 😂 , leather dash rekt by Florida heat $5k , sunroof has failed twice now $1500.
The Giulia is a far better looking car than the 159. The original 156 runs the Giulia much closer.
I had a 159 and that nose will always be the best, I'm sorry but the Giulia doesn't come close, although I do love my Giulia.
@@Orvieta The front overhang is too long on the 159, although due to being a longer car it is a lot better proportioned than the Brera.
@@simonh870 It was a bit harder to park yes, but those lights and the lines, ah found memories.
Love mine. In 2.5 years , warranty covered a new HVAC blower motor, and I needed a new battery. Stock Italian battery is garbage. Otherwise, it has been great and fun to drive.
There's only one issue with the Giulia. No Stationwagon.
All the rest is pure joy and love.
I’ve watched all the Romeo videos on you tube and this is just a great general and informative video 😊well done
You don’t know Alfaromeo yet
I am on my 10th one it’s like beautiful delicate woman that demanding and can let you down
It is truly beautiful, just had one behind me today, do not see them in North America that often, in fact it was the first one I ever saw in person.
MultiAir does have a problem - you HAVE to change the oil with a high quality version and must be replaced often. Same with MultiAir oil filter.
Still at some point you will need to replace the MultiAir module which costs about $2500-3000. If you’re under warranty it will be free but good luck after the warranty expires. It will need to be replaced every 50.000-100.000 km depending on maintenance and oil exchange intervals.
You can't replace the multiair filter on the 2.0 engine. Not without taking the entire cylinder head off. So you better hope the original owners didn't listen to Alfa regarding the oil change intervals...
Retained value.😂😂😂
Whenever I buy a car, I do not factor in resale or trade-in value.
I completely write off the purchase price as a 100% loss.
Do that, and you will never be frustrated at the loss.
In fact, you will be pleasantly surprised that you actually got some money for it when you trade it in. 👌
Yep, just gorgeous. No other words.
I love it. But since I need space I’m getting a loaded red 2024 Stelvio Tributo Italiano. And thinking about adding a flame red 2024 MX-5 RF for fun drives on small twisty country roads we have here south of Kraków in the foothils of the mountains in Poland. And I don’t care about the depreciation. The German cars have all the charm of household appliances. I’ve had a few and I’m done with them. Thanks for a passionate review. Greetings from Poland!
After 16 years al Alfa 147, Giulietta. I wanted the Giulia. Drove it 3 times, as a test ride. Great riding.
Once i drove a BMW 3 series (g21) directly after the Giulia.
It felt like losing. Ride quality, equal. Insde, BMW is next level.
It took me a while to accept my loss.
Now i love the Bmw g21 (touring). And all still want a Giulia, on the side. In Visconti green
How does smart power steering system behave in your BMW? Many G20 owners report that the car gets very unstable when driving fast and it feels like it cannot drive straight especially in windy weather.
I went from BMW to Alfa. The beemer was boring to drive and would not track straight on the freeway, suspension also stunk. I have two Giulia's and they are epic.
I test drove the Giulia, felt a bit underwhelmed, bought a BMW G20 only to still change it to a Giulia Veloce after 4 months :D.
@@milosza1384 i’m happy with it. Tur off auto steering helps a lot of you go 180km/h.
When you are at 100-110km/h auto steering is amazingly relaxing.
Basically use it when you want it.
@@frankbaars1880 it is good that you can switch it off. Many users report that they can’t, apparently due to a software update the option to turn off the auto steering disappeared for some. Perhaps depends on model year of the car.
I have a 2.0 Giulia and it's a joy to drive but I've had loads of electrical gremlins even after replacing the Battery, the most annoying is the heated rear window not working.. Other gremlins have settled down only left with start/stop fail, never worked and charging warning light which stays on but is not an issue as regards alternator as voltage and charging is good.. Starts every time now although once about two years ago it went dead for no apparent reason and needed a jump start. But all in all I like the Giulia, it's so comfortable to steer and drive, engine is powerful and smooth and the car just looks great.
What year model was it?
5 years into my quad. No issues ever. 40000 miles. Still makes me me laugh. But the maintenance is catastrophicly expensive
Any top-of-the-line sports sedan with the hot powertrain will be expensive to maintain, but you knew that.
@@rlsedition definitely knew but a new serpentine belt every 30,000 miles at two grand pop at the dealer is nuts. They have to take the entire front end off the car. It’s an 8 hour job
@@2steaksandwiches665 That engine was designed by Ferrari, so what did you expect? I'd wager the hot versions of the BMW 3 series require similar maintenance (and Audi RS, Merc AMG).
@@rlsedition totally understand that, but I feel that that’s an excuse for bad design when it comes to serviceability.
@@2steaksandwiches665 Yeah, just like my '06 Audi A3 4-cylinder, which required a cam belt change at 100k miles, which meant an $800 repair cost (back in 2014) for a $35 belt. In case you hadn't noticed, cars are not engineered for easy maintenance and performance versions are far worse than average. If you want to play, you have to pay.
57k miles on my Veloce. It has never missed a beat. I'd buy another one.
Italian cars - Fiat, Alfa Romeo and now the dead Lancia were branded problematic because the German car brands bought the media and same media was smearing Fiat group. I had 2009 Alfa 159, it was awesome car never had a problem.
Great job!
The styling great, but when the "what goes wrong" section is like the 1/3 of the video, you know it's gonna be a stinker.
Did you watch it or just scrub through?
Trying to describe the feeling of driving a Giulia is like trying to explain the color red to someone who has never had sight. It has to be experienced. It is that special.
The Giulia is beautiful and amazing to drive. The Lexus is just a car!