The biggest reason i started watching this channel about 3 years ago was for these old vs new comparison videos. So nice to see a new one!!! It's been a while
Damn, im an hour too late to post this. I also wanted to add and thr reviews of the more affordable cars. 80k and under is probably the best im gonna do the rest of my life.
@@mimickendachi9761 im 55,i think the most ive spent is actually about 8k . and im a car enthusuiast. most of my peers have spent less. even now i have a mx5, e46 and flatbaack vw, all over 20 years old
Yeah but the new one looks worse and like a 10-15 year old car. Its not going to sell. The rear looks like a 2015 kia. Why would anyone buy this over a ferrari roma. Thats an actually good design, contemporary and beautiful at the same time.
So I bought a 2009 gran turismo last year. Put about 4K miles on it. Has been a great experience. I think you have to have the right attitude about “maintaining it” and what you will be willing to fix and what you can ignore/live with- but if you can do that you are rewarded with an absolutely incredible car experience for less than the price of a base 4 cylinder mustang. Yes- it really does put a huge smile on your face everytime you grab the keys for any reason, and at least a grin everytime you walk by it in the garage. Thats worth a lot.
@@timwolke thanks- mine is a rare 2009 S with the F1 transmission- like they say it is a pretty good gearbox once you get used to it but the added cost of a clutch replacement at some point
@@samn1217so when you are coming to a stop you can just pull both the paddles (on the F1) to drop it into neutral and coast to a stop. But you never do this. Ever. You downshift sequentially right down through each gear at every single stop sign or light, every time. You never even run through a late yellow light, because downshifting harshly to a stop is so enjoyable
@@peterkater4292 i must say I agree, with the exception of the taillights, which admittedly have aged poorly, the exterior design of the old one is better looking than even the new one
@@thenullduck I'm not sure the taillights have aged poorly.. But considering the "modern" taillights, yes, maybe. The old taillights just aren't an issue for me. What I don't understand is how designers could perform a "lesser job" on the front end, thus making it uglier than the former one... That, must be a tough job! 😂
If I recall the older one topped out in the mid 100k’s they were nice but never Aston Martin nice. They were considered nicer Chryslers. It’s crazy Maserati think they’re on level of actual super cars now.
It's less aggressive, that's why it's good. This is like the Aston Martin DB12. The front of the DB11 is much better but they only kept the rear. I think the Maserati GranTourismo only needed some very minor modernization of the front like more sleek DRLs, just like how they modernized the rear. They changed the front too much.
The only thing is is that the base price was over $113kUS in 2008, so adjusted for inflation the base price of $158k for the Modena is cheaper than what inflation would suggest it should cost $162k It was always a premium purchase when compared to what else you could buy. For me outside of the Aston Martin from style I’d still pick the Maserati in spite of its depreciation. I love Aston Martin too, but you can get the car for under $160k new, you can’t get a Aston Martin new for that price
I have a sneaky suspicion that they’re not going to sell very many of them at this price point. It’s truly a beautiful car but no one is going to pay $300K for it.
Have you not met rich people? They pay 250k to go a few kilometres underwater in a homemade tin can. There's definitely enough people with more money than sense who'd absolutely buy one.
People pay for the exclusivity. What is 300k for a multi-millionaire? Sure there are other options for that range as said but those who can afford this probably have more than one car anyways.
next to clarkson, hammond and may, these two are the greatest automotive journalists i have ever watched, in my opinion. everything about this channel, is phenomenal. thank you for the content.
Chris Harris, Henry Catchpole, Harry Metcalfe, Jason Cammisa, Jonny Smith are all worth watching / reading. They arguably have more industry cred than the OG TG crew. Especially Harris
These guys are clearly fakes at best. Thomas is a pretend racing driver, he's slow and copies whatever the most popular veiw po8nt is about everything. Nothing original
Lol…. Many people like this outsource their income management to a licensed professional. And they are paid higher with time because the rich people are getting richer. Simple🤓
I don't think I need a finance advisor. I can manage my own money and investments. I don't want to pay someone else to tell me what to do with my hard-earned cash.
That's a risky attitude, My friend. You might be missing out on some valuable opportunities and strategies that a finance advisor can offer. A finance advisor can help you plan for your short-term and long-term goals, optimize your tax situation, diversify your portfolio, and avoid costly mistakes.
I agree with You. A finance advisor can also provide you with objective and unbiased advice, especially when you are facing emotional or stressful situations. They can help you stay on track and avoid making impulsive decisions that can harm your financial future.
One of the best parts about TH is they never ask you to subscribe constantly or talk about algorithms or the youtube crap. They just produced amazing videos and let people decide for themselves.
Had a GranTurismo for 3 years. Absolutely nothing failed or went wrong. Had it serviced as per the schedule no issues. Drove it across Europe as a perfect GT car. The car was bullet proof and a joy to own
I have had my Granturismo 4.2 2007 for 5 years now and have driven 35k since I got it. No mechanical issues. Changed oil and filters regulary and front brake pads. Changed the navigation unit to an android designed to fit and looks stock. It have been a joy to own and had not costed me much.
@@djkjthe3rd185the scare stories are just that. But like the IMS problems or bore scoring on 996 or 997 Porsche 911’s - technical faults affect a very very small percentage of vehicles. I can tell you stories of dreadfully unreliable Ferrari or Lamborghini or Ford, Chevrolet or GM. There are Friday cars occasionally but that doesn’t mean the majority are not solid.
@peterbest5938 Wow! Glad your ownership experience went so well with the Maserati. I'm looking at 6-8k cars so if something goes wrong on the Maserati, I'm going to be paying 160k car repair costs 😂 BMW is the direction I'm heading I think
@@djkjthe3rd185 Bentley, Rolls Royce, Maserati or other brands that you can pick up cheap you’re always going to be paying premium prices on servicing. I had from new and Audi A6 Quattro Avant and after 200k miles where it never broke down the servicing costs became prohibitive even with an Audi specialist - the parts were very expensive and at that mileage I was going to start having to replace a lot of parts all the time through wear and tear so sold it on to someone who knew he’d get a year or two of motoring out of it before scrap.
Bringing back memories :) I remember 15-17 years ago when I went to the Frankfurt auto show together with my brother. In the evening we went for a walk in the city. It was very quiet in the neighborhood and we wanted to cross one street. But there was this engine sound of a car coming fast, or perhaps a harley. We kept on waiting for couple of seconds, the sound was getting louder and louder but still no car to be seen. Then came this beautiful GranTurismo. The driver wasn't even speeding but the car sounded like thunder. I bit if Simon & Garfunkel would've been there then "the sound of silence" would have called "the sound of GranTurismo"
I love the Simon & Garfunkel reference, just like their music, the looks and sound of this beautiful machine are timeless. I’d feel Pink Floyd’s “Welcome to the Machine” if somebody opened The Doors of this car to let me in, better yet if I owned the car lol. V8 is best
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:01 🚗 Introduction and Discussion about Maserati Ownership 01:02 🛠 Common Issues with High-Mileage Maserati Gran Turismos 03:30 🚘 Review of the 2024 Maserati Gran Turismo Trofeo 08:48 🏎 Review of the 2008 Maserati Gran Turismo 16:02 🕰 Comparison of the Interior Design and Features 23:31 🚗 Discussion on the Affordability and Appeal of Older Maseratis 24:45 🏁 Final Thoughts and Comparison of Old vs. New Maseratis Made with HARPA AI
Later generations of the old Granturismo get the better 4.7 L V8 and a way way better gearbox/trans setup + alot of the faults the early gens had were fixed as well. I wish the new Granturismo had the 4.7 from the pervious gen but even more refined.
Exactly this - I think this is a 4.2L is it not? They completely ignored the fact that the GT ran for over 10 years, and later models have all kinds of facelifts and improvements.
Am I the only one that doesn't think it sounds that amazing? Maybe it's better in person, but it doesn't sound any better than the new V6 to me. The new one sounds great for a turbo 6
The only issues I have had in over 2 years of owning my 2012 Maserati GranTurismo S with the even better 4.7L engine is the air conditioning and rough running and warning lights on the dash. The A/C compressor went out and was sorted for about $1,100 with an independent A/C shop that does work on high end cars and the other issue was fixed with the installation of a new $300 battery. The TPMS light is always on but the previous owner fixed it and it still broke. It can’t recalibrate and so the light stays on even though the system gives accurate pressure readings. I have just learned to live with it. I also have the sticky buttons which also happens to Ferraris as well. But none of that matters when you put it in Sports mode and let her rip. The noises she makes are GLORIOUS!!
My wife(then girlfriend), who couldn't give a flying f@#$ about cars, heard a Gran Turismo v8 pull away from a stoplight near millennium park in Chicago while we were walking along the street and she all the sudden went weak in the knees and clutched her chest and asked me breathlessly, "What car was that?!". THAT'S the power of a Maserati. I will never forget that moment.
"A Revving Maserati Engine has a Biological Effect on Women. A study conducted by British insurance company Hiscox reveals that the sound of a revving Maserati engine has a biological effect on women. Those who took part in the study listened to a variety of engine sounds from a number of cars, and after hearing the Maserati engine, all of the female test subjects had higher testosterone levels in their saliva. High testosterone levels can be indicative of a stirred libido. According to the study, of all the cars tested, the Maserati sound elicited the greatest testosterone response." - Car And Driver Magazine. Google it. So, yes, a Maserati V8 does make women horny.
As a owner of a 08 4.2l maserati GT I have to say the car is very good for the price. Mine is actually very reliable and nothing is broken yet.... If you are in the market for one, try get one with low mileage and not an ex-rental
That engine sound is just perfect. It has rumble and intention to it like nothing else. Yes, I have hushed my wife AND my child when one has driven by. It really is special.
I drove a beautiful Maserati MC Stradale for 5 years and to be fair, NEVER had a issue with it. Normal Maintenance. I didn't WISH for a female passenger in the seat like you two yammered about and couldn't finish your sentence. I enjoyed it for what it was. A glorious symphony of V8 goodness that my passengers exclaimed, "Damn, it feels like zero to 60 is an EVENT." Enough said....
Nobody else could have made this video. Like, with that feeling. It has been the case for a while, but this video is so past the point where, you are no longer "just another review channel", you guys are you own thing. This was so much "a Throttle House video", and the fact that "a Throttle House video" now means something so specific, just speaks to how far you've come. This is imo the best praise that can be given. You have a unique feel and we're all here for it!!
In my youth I was sucked into the Maserati vortex buy helping restore a 3500GT. The Maserati is quite simply a work of art. it speaks to your soul. it may be cranky, expensive, but it's not unreliable. If you are brave enough to actually own one you will never regret, it.
I bought a 2011 Maserati GranTurismo S this year. $40K with 28K miles...convertible! Incredible sound and looks! A true head turner. Blue with tan interior. I love it better than my old 1984 Ferrari 308GTS. I don't think Maserati will sell a lot of new ones at $300K + so, there may not be a lot of $30K ones in 5 years.
As an owner of a Maserati QP 2008 Sport GTS, I can say preparation is everything. I put money aside for its yearly repairs, and have always been prepared for the worst (I charge the batteries, make sure the tires are on the right pressure, don't kick it when its cold etc.), but so far have been very surprised by how little maintenance was required. The tire pressure sensors go out, thats a given on all these old maserati's, don't bother replacing them. Brakes etc. are expensive, just like any other sports car. Besides that, solid as a rock, now going over 100.000km, and I haven't paid much more on maintenance than on my BMW 3 series (X5 is actually more expensive!). The feeling however I get when driving it, and just looking at it, is very different than any other car I've owned.
I bought a GranTurismo 5 months ago and I LOVE IT! Amazing car. Especially when in Sport Mode! You can get one with less than 50k miles and great shape for under $40k US.
I pay $1,750 every 6 months for my 2013 Granturismo and my wife's 2020 Ford Escape. With that said, I've had trouble getting insurance companies to ensure the vehicle and I am over 45, clean driving record, and good credit.@@MrAntd1
I'd like to see an old Maserati GT vs an old Jaguar F-Type V8 comparison video. They're so close price-wise in the used market. And they're both all about that sound.
@@LoganSLRLockwood not sure about CAD prices, but if you get extreme low end of the Maserati GTs you can be around 25K USD. You won’t find any Ftypes there, because they’re just not as old or beat up as those Maseratis, but on average for a Maserati GT you’re looking at about 35k-40k USD which becomes Ftype V8 range. And this is the range you’d be making this comparison.
I would love to see this comparison with the last V8 GranTurismo from 2018. Over the years those cars went through numerous technical updates and facelifts and I bet that kind of comparison with the new V6 GranTurismo would be more fair.
Yep! They improved the interior and overall reliability significantly! They also added the F1 Superfast II transmission from the Ferrari Scuderia/599GTO in Europe! It was kind of a cheap shot to compare the new one to the oldest variant of the GT that clearly has not been maintained...
It's just two air bag lights and low tire pressure ya knucklehead. But yeah these guy borrowed a real beater for this video just to play into the misconceptions, which is why this video earned my downvote. They could have got any year from 2012-2018 which are dead reliable but instead went for a first year, unmaintained piece of shit to tell this half assed, very misrepresented story
They're always pulling dumb shit like that. They always purposely look for cars with issues to sabotage entire companies. I purposely choose to downvote their bullshit manufactured snark.
Why must people interject religion into everything. This is about cars/trucks etc. if you want to find your particular god of choice , then drive as fast as you can in one of those beautiful cars and just wait for it 😂 .
Thank you guys for this inspiring test. I‘m owning the old GranTurismo but the latest iteration from 2018. With the 4.7 Litre V8 with 460BHP and the much quicker ZF 6 Speed Gearbox (it hits you in the Neck in Sportmode above 5000 RPM), with the much quicker Steering, with Skyhook Dampers (soft or stiff), with the Sportseats, Rearview Camera and, last but not least, the Touchscreen Nav with Apple Carplay. This Car, for what as it was new, i’ve payed "just" 120.000 €, is the much better Competitor to the new one. And with that in Mind, the new GT for just double the Price, i can not go with the newer. Never Mind, what the 0-60 time of the new GT is. It simply doesn‘t matter, if you hear the V8 screaming. I‘ve driven it for 150.000km and never had a big issue. Just small ones like a Parkingsensor not working.
Probably could have been fairer to the old car, much more expensive crap old ferraris are just the same and testing the cheapest you could find it will obviously have issues. My Cayman had sticky buttons, the gearbox exploded and ims is a worry. Also nobody ever mentions that the maserati will easily fit 4 adults or 2 kids in car seats. Still nice to see a comparison. Great vid.
The original GT was succeeded by the GTS. From around 2013 onwards, there was then the face lifted version also (GT Sport), and these generally don't have the variator issues that the older 4.2 version had. Then there was a third face lift model with updated infotainment, reversing camera etc. There were other cosmetic packages you could get (MC Sportline) on these, and of course there was the hardcore MC Stradale (the only one really that hasn't suffered the extreme depreciation the others have - although, still depreciated). I own the GT Sport version with the 4.7L and the facelift. It's fantastic. My God it's slow - it handles like a bus, I get smoked by almost any other even slightly 'sporty' car, and well, you can guess the maintenance costs I'm sure. But these older cars are future classics. They may never (and probably won't ever) appreciate in financial value - but the aesthetic value (both visual and sonic) is the epitome of beauty. Whilst the rear end does look dated, the front end, with the long bonnet covering the V8 which is placed just behind the front axel looks stunning. And the sound - well - the truth is that that is the be all and end all of this car - I can't think of another V8 that comes close (sorry Jaguar f-type fans!) I think I'd only be disappointed if a v10 LFA pulled up alongside - and, well, the likelihood of that happening is near-on zero! When you drive somewhere in this car, every time, without fail, its an experience. You'll hold your breath a touch, waiting for the next maintenance light, but once you've mentally hurdled that, this touring car is a dream to drive. It's a Maserati! It's history says it all. Fantastic video guys!
I am glad you are among the ones who can still appreciate esthetics and legacy over "top of the line modernity" and "fashionable-ism". Also, I should mention I admire the nerve it requires to drive a Maserati, given their overall positions on the reliability scale. Kudos to you buddy! And lots of happy smiles per gallon!
The M156 V8 in the w204 C63 comes close - I tried both cars and the "relatively reliable" C63 won out for me. I hear brakes cost an arm and a leg on the GT too, but their sound is definitely infectious! Great to hear the appreciation for it.
I am also a fellow 2015 GT Sport owner, it ironically rides much softer than my wife's GLA45 which is much more quicker, nimbler handling, more spacious, better infotainment (whoever made the decision to puts Peugeot center console along rubbery soft plastic which eventually turn gooey and sticky into this car deserves no cookies) better ground clearance, easier on maintenance and easier on insurance than this. The only thing my wife's AMG doesn't do better is the distinctive v8 sound. And the sleek look....
The old GranTurismo styling really is timeless and the sound is ridiculously vulgar. I love it! Keep up the great work on these old vs new comparisons guys! One of my favorite things to watch on YT.
I wish you grabbed the 4.7l GT - it's twice the car without some of the big problems you mentioned, particularly the models after 2011! Still love that car and the sound it makes.
NO it is not- they are quite accessible. At the end the day you could buy a Civic Type R or a GranCabrio same money but not the same experience.@@pathofexileexile
It’s amazing, it sounds throaty like some old school giant pushrod big block American v8. I guess the cross plane crank added to a high flowing DOHC Ferrari v8 does that. Sounds like an angry hemi. Another small high tech European v8 that sounds American and throaty is the Tatra v8.
You forgot the miracle of the GranTurismo (both the old gen and this one): it's actually a real four seater, it can actually fit four adults. Not a 2+2, but a sleek, classy, beautiful, magnificent coupe, that you can fit a whole family in. Incredible!
Exactly! Great point. And a lot of the cars they were comparing to at the price point were all 2 seat sport/ super cars, different market and different customers. Some people would be put of those cars by not being able to get friends/ family in the back for some trips and would be looking at Bentley Continentals and Ferrari GTC4Lussos', so when that's considered this price point makes much more sense
I really like the new Maserati steering wheel. It looks fantastic! Very reminiscent of BMW's older M-Wheel, but with Ferrari-style knobs and Neptune's Trident in the middle. Despite all Maserati's issues and massively over-priced nature, they still have the best logo and font in the auto industry.
The design has truly withstood the test of time. Instead of moving on, there's a certain charm in enhancing and breathing new life into that classic V8. Give it some love, and it'll surely shine!👍
The Maserati granturismo is a snap shot in time. I always wanted a rare Italian car before all the tech and bs happened. I love mine. You either get it or you dont. I also have super cars but nothing compares. Its almost a state of mind.
I am lucky to have a GT cabrio with 4,7l engine already 13 years old and, surprise surprise, it's absolutely reliable and very cheap to maintain. All you need is a good, competent service, outside official network, and the cost of maintaining Maserati in a perfect shape is below the cost of diesel S-Klasse or Volvo XC 90 that I also happen to own. You guys did a great job, but you got a creepy wreck for the test, no wonder you disliked it;) In Europe these cars are more and more expensive now, as it is the last V8 and the last Maserati's V8 cabrio. I just love that car and the heavenly, gorgeous, outstanding, splendid noise it produces!
I loved my 11 GT-S. The stock exhaust was magnificent and positive reaction everywhere I went. Sad they lost the V8 for the new model but glad they retained the beautiful design.
I’ve got a 2018 GT, I actually prefer this facelift versus the original and the facelift before it. However, it’s probably the biggest head turner of a car I’ve owned and people hear it before they see it. Love the sound! I’m not entirely sure on the trident on the front of the new one looks wise as it looks like a sticker. So for looks and sound id stay put as it has (temperamental) car play… plus the fact I don’t have an extra £100k lying around (based in the UK) - great video, think you hit the nail on the head of Maserati ownership
What a fabulous review guy's, Throttle House just keeps improving and has reached Top gear levels of production, So thank you so much for these videos you make for petrolheads like yourselves ❤.
I had an opportunity to sit in a Maserati a few years back. The thing that struck me most was how ordinary the interior was. From the controls to touch surfaces, none of it was all that different from my own vehicle. I guess I expected more custom parts, to be amazing by how everything felt and worked. Instead, it felt like any other car.
Have a 2009 GT S (28k miles). I love finding Maserati bashing videos (not that you guys technically did that) and often find it hilarious how much of a bad rap these cars get for being "old" or falling apart or so expensive to operate. Maseratis, like marriages, give you back what you put into them. ;) Love your videos. Keep it up. (I would also for CERTAIN go for MC20 over Trofeo haha). You guys gave me a good idea, should go find a Vantage V12 this upcoming spring.
Lol, I did the same! Late November In Edmonton AB, opened my wife’s passenger window at -20C, ‘what are you doing? I can hear a Maserati GT MC ahead and want to hear it better!’ Yeah, she didn’t get it. One of my favourite sounding engines.
Always loved the design of the 1st gen Granturismo. Will go down in history as one of the great designs in auto history in my opinion, like the FD RX-7 or C2/ early C3 Corvettes :)
Can't agree more. I got rx7 fd3s and granturismo s both. And surprisingly feel that they are very similar, first timeless outlook, second bad and not accurate rumors. Most problems were cos of engineering design and immature driver behavior. If they got a mature owner, both cars won't be unreliable
The ending was perfect. I am a bit partial to Maseratis. My dad worked for them in the 80s and was even flown to Italy to take a tour of the factory. As much as I like the V8 soundtrack I like the twin turbo V6 as it gives me BiTurbo vibes. Its alot of damn money tho thats for sure.
I have 2 older ones and they have been excellent and very affordable for a 4 seater (and convertible as well) - bought mine 2nd hand each (Cabrio S and S coupé)
I got both gen 5 Quattroporte GTS and gen 6 Quattroporte SQ4. Gotta say the newer model makes a lot of noise without displacement authority (quite obvious in tunnels). The old gen is simply out of this world in sports model especially when you lower the windows.
I recently purchased a 09 Quattroporte S with the 4.7L engine. The Quattroporte and granturismo share the same underpinnings and power plant during this generation. The one I purchased has an unbelievable 5000 miles for $30k. That is insane a Ferrari powered sedan with an original sticker of 150k for that price. Hell a base Camry starts at $26k. I have been researching these cars for the last few months. I have been checking on owner reviews and the overwhelming majority say they have been reliable and have enjoyed their experience. I also own an e39 M5 and I have put a lot of money into it since I originally purchased it in 2013. So I do know about rod bearings, timing chain guides and valve cover gaskets. You just don’t hear about major issues with the QP power plant. Yes you should be able to do your own oil changes and wrenching from time to time. They will all cost money to run. As they say you have three choices to pick from fast,cheap, or reliable and you can only have two. I much prefer the QP exhaust to my m5 with a muffler delete this engine sounds like nothing else and the video doesn’t do it justice. In person it’s stupendous. I think this is one of the most under appreciated cars out there. If they just put a prancing horse on it they would be 80k all day. Yes the duo select car is crap and should be avoided at all cost but the updated car with the zf is generally reliable. I think because it’s not a manual gearbox car it gets overlooked right now but when enthusiasts start to mis the roar of an Italian V8 they will give this another look.
Love my 2015 mc sport, red interior, black exterior, fully updated climate and nav screen, feels more modern, the digital tft cluster is $2k but well worth it, looks and sounds amazing!! The new one looks great too and possible worth it second hand.
Had the option of buying a Mazerati Quattroporte or a Merc E550 coupe as a sports grand tourer. I have a long experience going back to the 1970s of Italian cars and their reliability issues , especially the electrics, and maintenance costs. I chose the Merc and have zero regrets. It is now 12 years old, a superb, utterly reliable, quality car which is a delight to drive/ tour across Europe.
This is very early model of V8 GranTurismo. Should have picked late 2014y model, which are still relatively cheap. All those first release errors are fixed and +50hp from engine.
Had a ‘14, the engine was great @455hp and sounded amazing, transmission was irritatingly clunky as hell. Car handled well for its weight, but the damn thing is really heavy at 4,200 lbs. In the shop a lot
Back in college, I was about to buy a certified GranTurismo. These things depreciated like rocks - - the ones I test drove were only 65-70k compared to the triple figure MSRPs. Test drove a few models up and down So Cal; beautiful car with a wonderful exhaust, but extremely outdated technology on the inside. Great to see a review of this vehicle on this channel!
@@trevorsutherland5263 Yeah LOL. Our condo is only 1,400 square feet and it’s well over 1 million now. Average rent in Los Angeles just passed 3,500. Everyone is moving out.
Uhhh no I’d Argue “as far as Italian goes” the reliability award goes to Alfa Romeos. Then again, I’ve never owned neither. It’s just that the bad rep is pretty commonplace for mechanics to bash.
@@ChaosphereIX I wonder how the new modern alfas compare to the old (pre-2000s alfa) reliability wise since company ownership changed a bit. Would you rather have a Quattroporte Maserati or a Quadrafolio alfa Romeo?
@@wr8thbeatz322 I had a 155 2.5 V6 rare JDM Ltd. Edition. The only 155 I can remember listed on BAT if you want to search. Sounded like a little Lambo and handled like a 3 series. Loved that car so much.
Just looked up used Maserati's on Edmunds...that depreciation is INSANEEEE. Are they seriously that unreliable? Or is it just the maintenance/repair costs?
I have a 2012 Sportline. No issues. The car in this video is the older model with the 4.2 liter and known for more issues. I believe they made some changes in 2011 and major changes in 2013 to alleviate known issues. Ideally I would get a 4.7 liter with the ZF transmission that's known to be bulletproof (not the pushbutton f1). Ideally you would want a 2013+ model but the 2012 is still okay when compared to previous years. If you find one that's been well maintained and a local mechanic that knows European cars and avoid the dealerships you'll be fine.
The biggest reason i started watching this channel about 3 years ago was for these old vs new comparison videos. So nice to see a new one!!! It's been a while
Damn, im an hour too late to post this. I also wanted to add and thr reviews of the more affordable cars. 80k and under is probably the best im gonna do the rest of my life.
same
@@mimickendachi9761 im 55,i think the most ive spent is actually about 8k . and im a car enthusuiast. most of my peers have spent less. even now i have a mx5, e46 and flatbaack vw, all over 20 years old
Please keep making these comparisons
@@PazLeBonur not an enthusiast ur just poor
No wonder designers couldn’t really change the design. Outgoing Granturismo is a timeless masterpiece, Jason Castriota absolutely nailed it.
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Absolutely, a masterpiece
Yeah but the new one looks worse and like a 10-15 year old car. Its not going to sell. The rear looks like a 2015 kia. Why would anyone buy this over a ferrari roma. Thats an actually good design, contemporary and beautiful at the same time.
One of the few times the old car looks better than the new one.
Yes. A Master Piece. ;-)
The sound of the V8 Maserati should be recorded and sent to space as a sample of peak human achievement
Noooo! Then aliens will come and take my Granturismo!😉
Then what we should do with the sound of Ferrari v12?
They can't hear it in space 🔊
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@@Thorfinn0607it is and you know it is.
So I bought a 2009 gran turismo last year. Put about 4K miles on it. Has been a great experience. I think you have to have the right attitude about “maintaining it” and what you will be willing to fix and what you can ignore/live with- but if you can do that you are rewarded with an absolutely incredible car experience for less than the price of a base 4 cylinder mustang. Yes- it really does put a huge smile on your face everytime you grab the keys for any reason, and at least a grin everytime you walk by it in the garage. Thats worth a lot.
You’re right, it definitely is one of those cars you just accept certain things with cus it’s worth the experience atleast for a while. 😅
Great spec aswell! All black with red leather - my Jaguar F-Pace P400 looks just like that. 🫱🏼🫲🏽
@@timwolke thanks- mine is a rare 2009 S with the F1 transmission- like they say it is a pretty good gearbox once you get used to it but the added cost of a clutch replacement at some point
I have nothing but “unreliable” Italian cars and have always loved the Masi GT. I know the up shifts are a joy - how are the downshifts?
@@samn1217so when you are coming to a stop you can just pull both the paddles (on the F1) to drop it into neutral and coast to a stop. But you never do this. Ever. You downshift sequentially right down through each gear at every single stop sign or light, every time. You never even run through a late yellow light, because downshifting harshly to a stop is so enjoyable
It is astonishing how beautiful the old granturismo is this many years later
Not to mention so better looking than the new one!
That's at least my humble opinion...
@@peterkater4292 i must say I agree, with the exception of the taillights, which admittedly have aged poorly, the exterior design of the old one is better looking than even the new one
@@thenullduck I'm not sure the taillights have aged poorly..
But considering the "modern" taillights, yes, maybe.
The old taillights just aren't an issue for me.
What I don't understand is how designers could perform a "lesser job" on the front end, thus making it uglier than the former one...
That, must be a tough job! 😂
Too bad that can’t apply to the inside of any Maserati ever built
It's really not that good looking. The prettiest GT of the last decades is easily the DB11
Man I cannot believe that old one is from 08'
What a timeless design imo
Except for the rear design, I agree.
Price for the new one is absolutely insane
It's because of weaker canadian dollar
Just wait two days. Should depreciate down to affordable levels.
@@theracer6882 Well, 230 in the US is still insane
Problem is I had to look twice to know which one is the new one, the styling isnt that different at least from the front.
Bentley money
I have missed these! Holy crap over 300k though and seeing how these depreciate like hitting a brick wall is PAINFUL.
Good for us poors tho that can buy one for 1/10th of the price
@@TonyStark-wr7ob not so good... repair bills don't depreciate lol
I cant imagine how you justify buying one of those even if you have botomless funds lol. Bentleys are such a bargain in comparison
If I recall the older one topped out in the mid 100k’s they were nice but never Aston Martin nice. They were considered nicer Chryslers. It’s crazy Maserati think they’re on level of actual super cars now.
I dont think maserati wants to sell any cars if they chose that kind of price
I've always loved Maseratis and Aston Martin's. Both two of the most beautiful cars ever built
Older Aston was using Ford engine.
And Jaguars too
Sadly they look great but are mechanically very iffy 😔
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I actually prefer the front air intake grill as well as the headlights in the older version. Much more sleek and aggressive look.
Pininfarina made a timeless design, it's when Maserati started adding vents to the car to make it look faster they had to take that badge off.
Headlights too.
It's less aggressive, that's why it's good. This is like the Aston Martin DB12. The front of the DB11 is much better but they only kept the rear. I think the Maserati GranTourismo only needed some very minor modernization of the front like more sleek DRLs, just like how they modernized the rear. They changed the front too much.
@Carson-pb5pfwrong forum
he said that@@e.heckscher1576
They've completely lost the plot with that pricing, Christ.
The only thing is is that the base price was over $113kUS in 2008, so adjusted for inflation the base price of $158k for the Modena is cheaper than what inflation would suggest it should cost $162k
It was always a premium purchase when compared to what else you could buy. For me outside of the Aston Martin from style I’d still pick the Maserati in spite of its depreciation. I love Aston Martin too, but you can get the car for under $160k new, you can’t get a Aston Martin new for that price
Correct, that car at 150-200k would compete with alot of cars
Looking at the thumbnail I didn't knew which one was the new one. Honestly, the "old" one looks astonishingly beautiful.
Know, not knew.
I have a sneaky suspicion that they’re not going to sell very many of them at this price point. It’s truly a beautiful car but no one is going to pay $300K for it.
Have you not met rich people? They pay 250k to go a few kilometres underwater in a homemade tin can. There's definitely enough people with more money than sense who'd absolutely buy one.
@@sameermohideen4913they’ll sell some but not many. A lot of people are aware that Maserati’s brand cache is kinda dying.
@@sameermohideen4913 youre really underestimating rich people...
People pay for the exclusivity. What is 300k for a multi-millionaire? Sure there are other options for that range as said but those who can afford this probably have more than one car anyways.
@@semahj You're overestimating them.
next to clarkson, hammond and may, these two are the greatest automotive journalists i have ever watched, in my opinion. everything about this channel, is phenomenal. thank you for the content.
Rory Reid and Jason Cammisa are easily on the same tier.
@@LoganSLRLockwood I can get behind that.
Watch a little more then, lol... Especially if you think the TG gang are automotive journalists...
Chris Harris, Henry Catchpole, Harry Metcalfe, Jason Cammisa, Jonny Smith are all worth watching / reading. They arguably have more industry cred than the OG TG crew. Especially Harris
These guys are clearly fakes at best. Thomas is a pretend racing driver, he's slow and copies whatever the most popular veiw po8nt is about everything. Nothing original
Ok I’m pissed with this…. How do people have such money for super cars… I don’t even have money for a Toyota 😣😣
Lol…. Many people like this outsource their income management to a licensed professional. And they are paid higher with time because the rich people are getting richer. Simple🤓
I don't think I need a finance advisor. I can manage my own money and investments. I don't want to pay someone else to tell me what to do with my hard-earned cash.
That's a risky attitude, My friend. You might be missing out on some valuable opportunities and strategies that a finance advisor can offer. A finance advisor can help you plan for your short-term and long-term goals, optimize your tax situation, diversify your portfolio, and avoid costly mistakes.
I agree with You. A finance advisor can also provide you with objective and unbiased advice, especially when you are facing emotional or stressful situations. They can help you stay on track and avoid making impulsive decisions that can harm your financial future.
how did you find a good finance advisor? How do you know if they are trustworthy and competent?
One of the best parts about TH is they never ask you to subscribe constantly or talk about algorithms or the youtube crap. They just produced amazing videos and let people decide for themselves.
I had a Trofeo once...it was a 1989 Oldsmobile Toronado Trofeo, but it was indeed a Trofeo lol
Had a GranTurismo for 3 years. Absolutely nothing failed or went wrong. Had it serviced as per the schedule no issues. Drove it across Europe as a perfect GT car. The car was bullet proof and a joy to own
Man that thing was made on a Thursday afternoon with the assembly workers on Adderall 😂 glad you didn't have any issues mate!
I have had my Granturismo 4.2 2007 for 5 years now and have driven 35k since I got it. No mechanical issues. Changed oil and filters regulary and front brake pads. Changed the navigation unit to an android designed to fit and looks stock. It have been a joy to own and had not costed me much.
@@djkjthe3rd185the scare stories are just that. But like the IMS problems or bore scoring on 996 or 997 Porsche 911’s - technical faults affect a very very small percentage of vehicles.
I can tell you stories of dreadfully unreliable Ferrari or Lamborghini or Ford, Chevrolet or GM. There are Friday cars occasionally but that doesn’t mean the majority are not solid.
@peterbest5938 Wow! Glad your ownership experience went so well with the Maserati. I'm looking at 6-8k cars so if something goes wrong on the Maserati, I'm going to be paying 160k car repair costs 😂 BMW is the direction I'm heading I think
@@djkjthe3rd185 Bentley, Rolls Royce, Maserati or other brands that you can pick up cheap you’re always going to be paying premium prices on servicing.
I had from new and Audi A6 Quattro Avant and after 200k miles where it never broke down the servicing costs became prohibitive even with an Audi specialist - the parts were very expensive and at that mileage I was going to start having to replace a lot of parts all the time through wear and tear so sold it on to someone who knew he’d get a year or two of motoring out of it before scrap.
The older one is still a lot prettier. It's just so sleek and aggressive looking.
Yeah, the larger "mouth" just looks right with that front end that still looks great today.
@@Fortis_1337for me even the taillights looks a lot better in the old one
The headlights are placed a lot better on the old version too
yeah, the new version just looks passive.
I prefer the rear of the new one though.
Bringing back memories :) I remember 15-17 years ago when I went to the Frankfurt auto show together with my brother. In the evening we went for a walk in the city. It was very quiet in the neighborhood and we wanted to cross one street. But there was this engine sound of a car coming fast, or perhaps a harley. We kept on waiting for couple of seconds, the sound was getting louder and louder but still no car to be seen. Then came this beautiful GranTurismo. The driver wasn't even speeding but the car sounded like thunder. I bit if Simon & Garfunkel would've been there then "the sound of silence" would have called "the sound of GranTurismo"
I love the Simon & Garfunkel reference, just like their music, the looks and sound of this beautiful machine are timeless. I’d feel Pink Floyd’s “Welcome to the Machine” if somebody opened The Doors of this car to let me in, better yet if I owned the car lol. V8 is best
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00:01 🚗 Introduction and Discussion about Maserati Ownership
01:02 🛠 Common Issues with High-Mileage Maserati Gran Turismos
03:30 🚘 Review of the 2024 Maserati Gran Turismo Trofeo
08:48 🏎 Review of the 2008 Maserati Gran Turismo
16:02 🕰 Comparison of the Interior Design and Features
23:31 🚗 Discussion on the Affordability and Appeal of Older Maseratis
24:45 🏁 Final Thoughts and Comparison of Old vs. New Maseratis
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Here in AZ, Maserati’s are everywhere. It’s honestly the most irresponsible, best sounding trend in the valley.
Lol I have noticed this as well. People scoop one up for $25k and become better then the rest of us.
Raced one down at Wild Horse years ago...lol Almost beat him in my little Nissan with DESTROYED tires. 😂
So true. Here in So Cal the owners that bought it new compensate by placing license plate frames/vanity plates like "1st Owner" etc. @@stefanb18
Are they that common in the US? Here in Central Europe they are a very rare sight
@@vodafoneuser1690 Generally, nah. Not really.
Later generations of the old Granturismo get the better 4.7 L V8 and a way way better gearbox/trans setup + alot of the faults the early gens had were fixed as well. I wish the new Granturismo had the 4.7 from the pervious gen but even more refined.
Exactly this - I think this is a 4.2L is it not? They completely ignored the fact that the GT ran for over 10 years, and later models have all kinds of facelifts and improvements.
Am I the only one that doesn't think it sounds that amazing? Maybe it's better in person, but it doesn't sound any better than the new V6 to me. The new one sounds great for a turbo 6
@@stu1002 yes this is the 4.2.
@@pilotdog68 4.7 sounds more aggressive, especially the MC.
My dad bought the ‘09 MC with the 4.7L V8. Sounds much better, and even with 80k miles today, it only averages $5k in repairs per year
This channel feels like 1990s Top Gear. Needell, Butler-Henderson, Clarkson. Subscribed.
The Ferrari diagnosis and fix line was gold😂😂
Right. They hooked it up to a scan tool for five minutes. 😂
The only issues I have had in over 2 years of owning my 2012 Maserati GranTurismo S with the even better 4.7L engine is the air conditioning and rough running and warning lights on the dash. The A/C compressor went out and was sorted for about $1,100 with an independent A/C shop that does work on high end cars and the other issue was fixed with the installation of a new $300 battery. The TPMS light is always on but the previous owner fixed it and it still broke. It can’t recalibrate and so the light stays on even though the system gives accurate pressure readings. I have just learned to live with it. I also have the sticky buttons which also happens to Ferraris as well. But none of that matters when you put it in Sports mode and let her rip. The noises she makes are GLORIOUS!!
Alcohol wipes will clean those sticky buttons
so moral of the story: its better to "know a guy who can do it for cheaper"
So it's a piece-of-shit?
@@marcushunter1406yep i used alcohol and took care of the sticky buttons... But my granturismo is outrageous... Definitely not the norm...
My granturismo almost looks like your bmw i8
Best car reviwe channel most charming duo on youtube no stupid arrogance and very entertaining GREAT JOB guys!
That transition from stationary to roaring Maserati was just sublime
My wife(then girlfriend), who couldn't give a flying f@#$ about cars, heard a Gran Turismo v8 pull away from a stoplight near millennium park in Chicago while we were walking along the street and she all the sudden went weak in the knees and clutched her chest and asked me breathlessly, "What car was that?!". THAT'S the power of a Maserati. I will never forget that moment.
thats insane haha
"A Revving Maserati Engine has a Biological Effect on Women. A study conducted by British insurance company Hiscox reveals that the sound of a revving Maserati engine has a biological effect on women. Those who took part in the study listened to a variety of engine sounds from a number of cars, and after hearing the Maserati engine, all of the female test subjects had higher testosterone levels in their saliva. High testosterone levels can be indicative of a stirred libido. According to the study, of all the cars tested, the Maserati sound elicited the greatest testosterone response." - Car And Driver Magazine. Google it. So, yes, a Maserati V8 does make women horny.
A maserati did a better job than you ?
@@poubelle_mentale Hahaha, I don't mind losing to a Maserati!
@@TheShootingBrake happy that you took it easy take it easy man 😊
I was out in Nobleton servicing someone’s Furnace and AC and drove passed you in these beauties. Was looking forward to checking out the video!
As a owner of a 08 4.2l maserati GT I have to say the car is very good for the price. Mine is actually very reliable and nothing is broken yet....
If you are in the market for one, try get one with low mileage and not an ex-rental
Same here!
How long have you owned it and how often do you drive it?
@@LafemmebearMusic a few months, daily
2 years, occasionally
That engine sound is just perfect. It has rumble and intention to it like nothing else.
Yes, I have hushed my wife AND my child when one has driven by. It really is special.
Not only the women but the children too
I drove a beautiful Maserati MC Stradale for 5 years and to be fair, NEVER had a issue with it. Normal Maintenance. I didn't WISH for a female passenger in the seat like you two yammered about and couldn't finish your sentence. I enjoyed it for what it was. A glorious symphony of V8 goodness that my passengers exclaimed, "Damn, it feels like zero to 60 is an EVENT." Enough said....
As the design hasn't aged so much, you're better off fixing & modding the old V8.
If it's possible to tinker with the old one without going to a Maserati dealer.
Assuming you can do the work yourself. Yes.
@@KulumuliThere are many Euro specialist garages that will happily rebuild and mod out the Granturismo to your heart’s content
Maybe rip out everything and just keep the engine and make that work with a new gearbox and new electronics?
@@BennnWJK The electrics and electronics also?
Nobody else could have made this video. Like, with that feeling. It has been the case for a while, but this video is so past the point where, you are no longer "just another review channel", you guys are you own thing.
This was so much "a Throttle House video", and the fact that "a Throttle House video" now means something so specific, just speaks to how far you've come.
This is imo the best praise that can be given. You have a unique feel and we're all here for it!!
@Carson-pb5pf You're really, really, really, REALLY REALLY preaching this in the wrong place. I wish you peace, but go away. This is so out of place.
@@pier-lucgaranddion1527Just mark his message as Spam..
Literally a few days before this video was released I was searching everywhere for a comparison between the two cars...........thank you very much❤❤❤
In my youth I was sucked into the Maserati vortex buy helping restore a 3500GT. The Maserati is quite simply a work of art. it speaks to your soul. it may be cranky, expensive, but it's not unreliable. If you are brave enough to actually own one you will never regret, it.
I bought a 2011 Maserati GranTurismo S this year. $40K with 28K miles...convertible! Incredible sound and looks! A true head turner. Blue with tan interior. I love it better than my old 1984 Ferrari 308GTS. I don't think Maserati will sell a lot of new ones at $300K + so, there may not be a lot of $30K ones in 5 years.
hows the maintenance?
nothing yet. I only driven it 2,500 miles.@@shadevelt
As an owner of a Maserati QP 2008 Sport GTS, I can say preparation is everything. I put money aside for its yearly repairs, and have always been prepared for the worst (I charge the batteries, make sure the tires are on the right pressure, don't kick it when its cold etc.), but so far have been very surprised by how little maintenance was required. The tire pressure sensors go out, thats a given on all these old maserati's, don't bother replacing them. Brakes etc. are expensive, just like any other sports car. Besides that, solid as a rock, now going over 100.000km, and I haven't paid much more on maintenance than on my BMW 3 series (X5 is actually more expensive!). The feeling however I get when driving it, and just looking at it, is very different than any other car I've owned.
I bought a GranTurismo 5 months ago and I LOVE IT! Amazing car. Especially when in Sport Mode! You can get one with less than 50k miles and great shape for under $40k US.
Congrats! My main concern is insurance? How much does insurance get you for?
@@MrAntd1of course insurance is going to be high, it's Italian Exotic.
I pay $1,750 every 6 months for my 2013 Granturismo and my wife's 2020 Ford Escape. With that said, I've had trouble getting insurance companies to ensure the vehicle and I am over 45, clean driving record, and good credit.@@MrAntd1
@@MrAntd1 I got hit HARD by Gieco! I changed to Hagerty and is totally reasonable. Less than what I pay for my sons Mini Cooper.
@SAVAGE8 Good to see you here lol! I saw you comment on my GT drive.
I'd like to see an old Maserati GT vs an old Jaguar F-Type V8 comparison video. They're so close price-wise in the used market. And they're both all about that sound.
Where are you finding any F Type V8 for 35k CAD? Even the V6s are at least 60-70k.
@@LoganSLRLockwood not sure about CAD prices, but if you get extreme low end of the Maserati GTs you can be around 25K USD. You won’t find any Ftypes there, because they’re just not as old or beat up as those Maseratis, but on average for a Maserati GT you’re looking at about 35k-40k USD which becomes Ftype V8 range. And this is the range you’d be making this comparison.
You need to go Jag XKR, Aston Martin Vantage V8 and then you’ve got yourself a fantastic side by side by side comparison video!
@@oHeiheiyou’re spot on
@@samn1217 Ooooo, yes, I love that idea
Keep the new vs old going!! These series really made me want to share to everyone! 🎉
I would love to see this comparison with the last V8 GranTurismo from 2018. Over the years those cars went through numerous technical updates and facelifts and I bet that kind of comparison with the new V6 GranTurismo would be more fair.
Yep! They improved the interior and overall reliability significantly! They also added the F1 Superfast II transmission from the Ferrari Scuderia/599GTO in Europe!
It was kind of a cheap shot to compare the new one to the oldest variant of the GT that clearly has not been maintained...
@@EEvtgthe point of the video though was to compare the new one to a really cheap granturismo.
@@EEvtgnailed it 👌
Watching Thomas drive around that old Maserati and it cuts to the speedo with every single light on the display was instant comedy.
@Carson-pb5pfgo outside and spread your bs elsewhere weirdo
It's just two air bag lights and low tire pressure ya knucklehead. But yeah these guy borrowed a real beater for this video just to play into the misconceptions, which is why this video earned my downvote. They could have got any year from 2012-2018 which are dead reliable but instead went for a first year, unmaintained piece of shit to tell this half assed, very misrepresented story
They're always pulling dumb shit like that. They always purposely look for cars with issues to sabotage entire companies. I purposely choose to downvote their bullshit manufactured snark.
Why must people interject religion into everything. This is about cars/trucks etc. if you want to find your particular god of choice , then drive as fast as you can in one of those beautiful cars and just wait for it 😂 .
@@Gorilla_Jonestry finding a high mileage with no lights lol
“Are you curious about the EV one?”
“No”
Exactly hahahah
Thank you guys for this inspiring test. I‘m owning the old GranTurismo but the latest iteration from 2018. With the 4.7 Litre V8 with 460BHP and the much quicker ZF 6 Speed Gearbox (it hits you in the Neck in Sportmode above 5000 RPM), with the much quicker Steering, with Skyhook Dampers (soft or stiff), with the Sportseats, Rearview Camera and, last but not least, the Touchscreen Nav with Apple Carplay. This Car, for what as it was new, i’ve payed "just" 120.000 €, is the much better Competitor to the new one. And with that in Mind, the new GT for just double the Price, i can not go with the newer. Never Mind, what the 0-60 time of the new GT is. It simply doesn‘t matter, if you hear the V8 screaming. I‘ve driven it for 150.000km and never had a big issue. Just small ones like a Parkingsensor not working.
Probably could have been fairer to the old car, much more expensive crap old ferraris are just the same and testing the cheapest you could find it will obviously have issues. My Cayman had sticky buttons, the gearbox exploded and ims is a worry. Also nobody ever mentions that the maserati will easily fit 4 adults or 2 kids in car seats. Still nice to see a comparison. Great vid.
The original GT was succeeded by the GTS. From around 2013 onwards, there was then the face lifted version also (GT Sport), and these generally don't have the variator issues that the older 4.2 version had. Then there was a third face lift model with updated infotainment, reversing camera etc. There were other cosmetic packages you could get (MC Sportline) on these, and of course there was the hardcore MC Stradale (the only one really that hasn't suffered the extreme depreciation the others have - although, still depreciated). I own the GT Sport version with the 4.7L and the facelift. It's fantastic. My God it's slow - it handles like a bus, I get smoked by almost any other even slightly 'sporty' car, and well, you can guess the maintenance costs I'm sure. But these older cars are future classics. They may never (and probably won't ever) appreciate in financial value - but the aesthetic value (both visual and sonic) is the epitome of beauty. Whilst the rear end does look dated, the front end, with the long bonnet covering the V8 which is placed just behind the front axel looks stunning. And the sound - well - the truth is that that is the be all and end all of this car - I can't think of another V8 that comes close (sorry Jaguar f-type fans!) I think I'd only be disappointed if a v10 LFA pulled up alongside - and, well, the likelihood of that happening is near-on zero! When you drive somewhere in this car, every time, without fail, its an experience. You'll hold your breath a touch, waiting for the next maintenance light, but once you've mentally hurdled that, this touring car is a dream to drive. It's a Maserati! It's history says it all. Fantastic video guys!
I am glad you are among the ones who can still appreciate esthetics and legacy over "top of the line modernity" and "fashionable-ism".
Also, I should mention I admire the nerve it requires to drive a Maserati, given their overall positions on the reliability scale.
Kudos to you buddy! And lots of happy smiles per gallon!
@Carson-pb5pfbro are you lost on TH-cam? Wtf are you on?
The M156 V8 in the w204 C63 comes close - I tried both cars and the "relatively reliable" C63 won out for me. I hear brakes cost an arm and a leg on the GT too, but their sound is definitely infectious! Great to hear the appreciation for it.
I ain't reading all that😂
I am also a fellow 2015 GT Sport owner, it ironically rides much softer than my wife's GLA45 which is much more quicker, nimbler handling, more spacious, better infotainment (whoever made the decision to puts Peugeot center console along rubbery soft plastic which eventually turn gooey and sticky into this car deserves no cookies) better ground clearance, easier on maintenance and easier on insurance than this. The only thing my wife's AMG doesn't do better is the distinctive v8 sound. And the sleek look....
The old GranTurismo styling really is timeless and the sound is ridiculously vulgar. I love it!
Keep up the great work on these old vs new comparisons guys! One of my favorite things to watch on YT.
The older GT looks so much better in the front fascia than the new gen. It's so much more aggressive and quick-looking.
I wish you grabbed the 4.7l GT - it's twice the car without some of the big problems you mentioned, particularly the models after 2011! Still love that car and the sound it makes.
Sure, but it's also double the price
NO it is not- they are quite accessible. At the end the day you could buy a Civic Type R or a GranCabrio same money but not the same experience.@@pathofexileexile
@@pathofexileexile$35K is what a lowish mileage 4.7L costs. The 4.2L is typically $25K or under
this is my first time coming across your videos, i must say, what a masterpiece af a video. this is the high end of youtube
That has to be one of the top 5 V8 engine notes ever created
It’s amazing, it sounds throaty like some old school giant pushrod big block American v8. I guess the cross plane crank added to a high flowing DOHC Ferrari v8 does that. Sounds like an angry hemi. Another small high tech European v8 that sounds American and throaty is the Tatra v8.
Had the 2014 GT MC for 5 years, not a single issue. I don't think these will depreciate like the previous version.
Lmao. Don't say this. I'll get one .
@@WavveBoi you should.
You forgot the miracle of the GranTurismo (both the old gen and this one): it's actually a real four seater, it can actually fit four adults. Not a 2+2, but a sleek, classy, beautiful, magnificent coupe, that you can fit a whole family in. Incredible!
this is the new the gtc4 lusso v12
Exactly! Great point. And a lot of the cars they were comparing to at the price point were all 2 seat sport/ super cars, different market and different customers. Some people would be put of those cars by not being able to get friends/ family in the back for some trips and would be looking at Bentley Continentals and Ferrari GTC4Lussos', so when that's considered this price point makes much more sense
I really like the new Maserati steering wheel. It looks fantastic! Very reminiscent of BMW's older M-Wheel, but with Ferrari-style knobs and Neptune's Trident in the middle. Despite all Maserati's issues and massively over-priced nature, they still have the best logo and font in the auto industry.
You mean you like 2015 Giulia QV steering with two more buttons.
The design has truly withstood the test of time. Instead of moving on, there's a certain charm in enhancing and breathing new life into that classic V8. Give it some love, and it'll surely shine!👍
The Maserati granturismo is a snap shot in time. I always wanted a rare Italian car before all the tech and bs happened. I love mine. You either get it or you dont. I also have super cars but nothing compares. Its almost a state of mind.
The 4.7 sounds even more epic
The intro is never be the same again without them 😂👍
The intros are the best part! Can you make a compilation of all of the intros?
I am lucky to have a GT cabrio with 4,7l engine already 13 years old and, surprise surprise, it's absolutely reliable and very cheap to maintain. All you need is a good, competent service, outside official network, and the cost of maintaining Maserati in a perfect shape is below the cost of diesel S-Klasse or Volvo XC 90 that I also happen to own. You guys did a great job, but you got a creepy wreck for the test, no wonder you disliked it;) In Europe these cars are more and more expensive now, as it is the last V8 and the last Maserati's V8 cabrio. I just love that car and the heavenly, gorgeous, outstanding, splendid noise it produces!
I loved my 11 GT-S. The stock exhaust was magnificent and positive reaction everywhere I went. Sad they lost the V8 for the new model but glad they retained the beautiful design.
7:59 I HAVE LOVED THIS CAR you can here the passion in his voice
I’ve got a 2018 GT, I actually prefer this facelift versus the original and the facelift before it. However, it’s probably the biggest head turner of a car I’ve owned and people hear it before they see it. Love the sound! I’m not entirely sure on the trident on the front of the new one looks wise as it looks like a sticker. So for looks and sound id stay put as it has (temperamental) car play… plus the fact I don’t have an extra £100k lying around (based in the UK) - great video, think you hit the nail on the head of Maserati ownership
What a fabulous review guy's, Throttle House just keeps improving and has reached Top gear levels of production, So thank you so much for these videos you make for petrolheads like yourselves ❤.
I had an opportunity to sit in a Maserati a few years back. The thing that struck me most was how ordinary the interior was. From the controls to touch surfaces, none of it was all that different from my own vehicle. I guess I expected more custom parts, to be amazing by how everything felt and worked. Instead, it felt like any other car.
Have a 2009 GT S (28k miles). I love finding Maserati bashing videos (not that you guys technically did that) and often find it hilarious how much of a bad rap these cars get for being "old" or falling apart or so expensive to operate. Maseratis, like marriages, give you back what you put into them. ;) Love your videos. Keep it up. (I would also for CERTAIN go for MC20 over Trofeo haha). You guys gave me a good idea, should go find a Vantage V12 this upcoming spring.
Please upload a video of the MC20 after you got one! I am a Ghibli owner only and MC20 is my dream!!!!
28k miles 😂
Best intro ever, loved it guys!
I hate how they screwed up the headlights on the new one. All of the personality was in the eyes.
Not your problem, you won't be buying one anytime soon.
@@bigmacdaddy1234and neither will you 😂
Yes the old one looks vicious and cynical...the new one looks goofy
It’s nice to see a new car that isn’t over-aggressively styled. Worst Car trend of the decade by far IMO.
I absolutely disagree.
I always had a soft spot for the granturismo. Always good looking
Bravo! Brilliant and engaging episode - not like there’s many a dull moment in any of your vids. How many miles on that 2008 example?
Lol, I did the same! Late November In Edmonton AB, opened my wife’s passenger window at -20C, ‘what are you doing? I can hear a Maserati GT MC ahead and want to hear it better!’ Yeah, she didn’t get it. One of my favourite sounding engines.
Always loved the design of the 1st gen Granturismo. Will go down in history as one of the great designs in auto history in my opinion, like the FD RX-7 or C2/ early C3 Corvettes :)
Can't agree more.
I got rx7 fd3s and granturismo s both.
And surprisingly feel that they are very similar, first timeless outlook, second bad and not accurate rumors. Most problems were cos of engineering design and immature driver behavior. If they got a mature owner, both cars won't be unreliable
Any FD owner would tell you exactly how unreliable their cars are... any rotary owner would
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@@ralkia I am the rotary owner you are looking for. I got two rotary and a maserati gts
What a beautifully crafted ending to a Maserati tribute video. thanks guys!
The ending was perfect. I am a bit partial to Maseratis. My dad worked for them in the 80s and was even flown to Italy to take a tour of the factory. As much as I like the V8 soundtrack I like the twin turbo V6 as it gives me BiTurbo vibes. Its alot of damn money tho thats for sure.
I have 2 older ones and they have been excellent and very affordable for a 4 seater (and convertible as well) - bought mine 2nd hand each (Cabrio S and S coupé)
No problems what so ever, but yes, the buttons are sticky as they are in Astons and Audis and Mercedes and and and... of the day
9:53 The perfect explanation of an old Maserati 😂😂
The old one sounds like a today LC500, except, the LC even sounds better and doesn’t destroy itself.
I got both gen 5 Quattroporte GTS and gen 6 Quattroporte SQ4. Gotta say the newer model makes a lot of noise without displacement authority (quite obvious in tunnels). The old gen is simply out of this world in sports model especially when you lower the windows.
I drive the "ISH" outta mine, 165k miles so far. Great car, amazing daily driver!
I recently purchased a 09 Quattroporte S with the 4.7L engine. The Quattroporte and granturismo share the same underpinnings and power plant during this generation. The one I purchased has an unbelievable 5000 miles for $30k. That is insane a Ferrari powered sedan with an original sticker of 150k for that price. Hell a base Camry starts at $26k.
I have been researching these cars for the last few months. I have been checking on owner reviews and the overwhelming majority say they have been reliable and have enjoyed their experience. I also own an e39 M5 and I have put a lot of money into it since I originally purchased it in 2013. So I do know about rod bearings, timing chain guides and valve cover gaskets. You just don’t hear about major issues with the QP power plant. Yes you should be able to do your own oil changes and wrenching from time to time. They will all cost money to run. As they say you have three choices to pick from fast,cheap, or reliable and you can only have two.
I much prefer the QP exhaust to my m5 with a muffler delete this engine sounds like nothing else and the video doesn’t do it justice. In person it’s stupendous. I think this is one of the most under appreciated cars out there. If they just put a prancing horse on it they would be 80k all day. Yes the duo select car is crap and should be avoided at all cost but the updated car with the zf is generally reliable. I think because it’s not a manual gearbox car it gets overlooked right now but when enthusiasts start to mis the roar of an Italian V8 they will give this another look.
Well sighted and stated.... Cheers
Love my 2015 mc sport, red interior, black exterior, fully updated climate and nav screen, feels more modern, the digital tft cluster is $2k but well worth it, looks and sounds amazing!! The new one looks great too and possible worth it second hand.
Hell yeah 👏🏻 I have a 14’ MC, red interior w/carbon fiber package wrapped in chrome blue. My profile image.
@@aldennis123 looks amazing!
Drove the older model. It's not fast, but it's so fun to drive because of the v8 sound it has.
Great review/comparison. Absolutely stunning machines. Thanks for the video.
😂 you guys should take this show on the road! I cant stop laughing...driving the older down the road with a small fan velcroud to the dash..love it!
Had the option of buying a Mazerati Quattroporte or a Merc E550 coupe as a sports grand tourer. I have a long experience going back to the 1970s of Italian cars and their reliability issues , especially the electrics, and maintenance costs. I chose the Merc and have zero regrets. It is now 12 years old, a superb, utterly reliable, quality car which is a delight to drive/ tour across Europe.
Very nice car the e550. You good taste and made the smart choice. God bless
This is very early model of V8 GranTurismo. Should have picked late 2014y model, which are still relatively cheap. All those first release errors are fixed and +50hp from engine.
A bigger n better 4.7 V8 too
@@xCkillaxC Indeed! The 4.2L V8 was way too underpowered for such heavy GT.
Had a ‘14, the engine was great @455hp and sounded amazing, transmission was irritatingly clunky as hell. Car handled well for its weight, but the damn thing is really heavy at 4,200 lbs. In the shop a lot
@@diegocajn What transmission your car has? ZF6 speed or F1?
@@TRHardware I’m not sure what transmission it had, good question. I sold the car 2 years ago.
Back in college, I was about to buy a certified GranTurismo. These things depreciated like rocks - - the ones I test drove were only 65-70k compared to the triple figure MSRPs. Test drove a few models up and down So Cal; beautiful car with a wonderful exhaust, but extremely outdated technology on the inside. Great to see a review of this vehicle on this channel!
You were going to own a 65k-70k car in college...?
@@nintend0mCali. Even the houses in the ghetto cost $2M. 😂
“Back in college” D bag
@@nintend0m Yeah parent’s gift. Ended up with a new S5 which I still drive today. Just rolled over 100k in fact lol.
@@trevorsutherland5263 Yeah LOL. Our condo is only 1,400 square feet and it’s well over 1 million now. Average rent in Los Angeles just passed 3,500. Everyone is moving out.
Hopefully buying an old maserati this weekend. Wish me luck.
You guys hit all the subtle points that only Maserati fans understand - great work
I love how much fun you both have while making the videos. I appreciate the honesty as well
I drove the old Granturismo and it was breathtaking
Always loved the way the older GT sounds
I still want a 4.7 badly. And a Quattroporte 4.7 for the family trips. Both are absolute bargains right now, and reliable as far as Italian cars go.
Uhhh no I’d Argue “as far as Italian goes” the reliability award goes to Alfa Romeos. Then again, I’ve never owned neither. It’s just that the bad rep is pretty commonplace for mechanics to bash.
@@wr8thbeatz322 I have owned an Alfa Romeo, an old one. Was rock solid if cared for properly.
@@ChaosphereIX I wonder how the new modern alfas compare to the old (pre-2000s alfa) reliability wise since company ownership changed a bit. Would you rather have a Quattroporte Maserati or a Quadrafolio alfa Romeo?
@@ChaosphereIX which model did u have if u don’t mind?
@@wr8thbeatz322 I had a 155 2.5 V6 rare JDM Ltd. Edition. The only 155 I can remember listed on BAT if you want to search. Sounded like a little Lambo and handled like a 3 series. Loved that car so much.
Last thing I expected was to be convinced lol! Love this series.
Just looked up used Maserati's on Edmunds...that depreciation is INSANEEEE. Are they seriously that unreliable? Or is it just the maintenance/repair costs?
Good question
average reliability, very very expensive repairs
I have a 2012 Sportline. No issues. The car in this video is the older model with the 4.2 liter and known for more issues. I believe they made some changes in 2011 and major changes in 2013 to alleviate known issues. Ideally I would get a 4.7 liter with the ZF transmission that's known to be bulletproof (not the pushbutton f1). Ideally you would want a 2013+ model but the 2012 is still okay when compared to previous years. If you find one that's been well maintained and a local mechanic that knows European cars and avoid the dealerships you'll be fine.
2013 and up are reliable.
Both
I drove a 2014 model with the v8 and the sounds it made were heavenly, especially on the downshifts
This episode was legendary man, I really appreciated this one gentlemen
The new one starts at $174k US according to the Maserati site which is still absurd but not as crazy as the Canadian pricing would suggest
Don't forget dealer's mark up. 🤣🤣🤣
in Canada cars are cheaper than US actually
300k for the new one is insane
Canadian…not USD!
@@kraenk12 it’s still astronomically overpriced. No way this thing should be more than a DB12