The Rom-Com Formula, Explained
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- The first 500 people to use this link will get a 2 month free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/thetake81 | The Rom-Com Formula: Two people at odds, a meet-cute, misunderstanding or an outright lie, an adorably clumsy heroine, a red herring love interest, a whimsical job, a big apartment, zany side characters, kissing in the rain, the epiphany, the happy-ever-after... and more. What makes this "comfort food" of cinema so irresistible? The contradictory Rom-Com Genre has had its ups and downs, but these unrealistic yet ever-relatable movies are seeing a comeback. In this video we analyze what makes this genre, and what it tells us about love. If you like this video, subscribe to our channel or support us on Patreon: / thetake
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How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days (2003)
Notting Hill (1999)
Working Girl (1988)
Mamma Mia! (2008)
Something's Gotta Give (2003)
Hitch (2005)
50 First Dates (2004)
Down with Love (2003)
10 Things I Hate About You (1999)
Bridget Jones's Diary (2001)
Kissing Jessica Stein (2001)
The Holiday (2006)
Clueless (1995)
Leap Year (2010)
Moonstruck (1987)
The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement (2004)
The Wedding Singer (1998)
While You Were Sleeping (1995)
Serendipity (2001)
Friends with Benefits (2011)
Sweet Home Alabama (2002)
Four Weddings and a Funeral (1994)
13 Going on 30 (2004)
You've Got Mail (1998)
The Back-up Plan (2010)
When Harry Met Sally... (1989)
Pretty Woman (1990)
Never Been Kissed (1999)
Pretty in Pink (1986)
27 Dresses (2008)
How Stella Got Her Groove Back (1998)
Always Be My Maybe (2019)
Set It Up (2018)
Jerry Maguire (1996)
The Prince & Me (2004)
Something New (2006)
Sleepless in Seattle (1993)
Groundhog Day (1993)
Love, Simon (2018)
The Ugly Truth (2009)
To All the Boys I've Loved Before (2018)
What Happens in Vegas (2008)
Coming to America (1988)
Crazy Rich Asians (2018)
The Proposal (2009)
How to Be Single (2016)
Romy and Michele's High School Reunion (1997)
Isn't It Romantic (2019)
My Best Friend's Wedding (1997)
Love Actually (2003)
There's Something About Mary (1998)
Maid in Manhattan (2002)
Enchanted (2007)
Broadcast News (1987)
A Midsummer Night's Dream (1999)
As You Like It (1936)
Twelfth Night (1996)
Much Ado About Nothing (1993)
Emma (1996)
Sense and Sensibility (1995)
The Taming of the Shrew (1967)
She's the Man (2006)
It Happened One Night (1934)
Adam's Rib (1949)
The Philadelphia Story (1940)
Bringing Up Baby (1938)
The Awful Truth (1937)
The Seven Year Itch (1955)
How to Marry a Millionaire (1953)
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)
Some Like It Hot (1959)
The Graduate (1967)
Lover Come Back (1961)
Pillow Talk (1959)
Alfie (1966)
The Apartment (1960)
Annie Hall (1977)
Harold and Maude (1971)
Manhattan (1979)
Can't Buy Me Love (1987)
Sixteen Candles (1984)
Baby Boom (1987)
(500) Days of Summer (2009)
Overboard (1987)
Say Anything... (1989)
Chasing Amy (1997)
Boomerang (1992)
The Best Man (1999)
Failure to Launch (2006)
Good Luck Chuck (2007)
Ghosts of Girlfriends Past (2009)
What's Your Number? (2011)
The House Bunny (2008)
Trainwreck (2015)
Silver Linings Playbook (2012)
Wedding Crashers (2005)
Forgetting Sarah Marshall (2008)
Knocked Up (2007)
Deadpool (2016)
As Good as it Gets (1997)
The Big Sick (2017)
They Came Together (2014)
Marriage Story (2019)
Blue Valentine (2010)
Before Midnight (2013)
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (2015-2019)
Pride & Prejudice (1995)
Master of None (2015-2017)
It's Complicated (2009)
Singin' in the Rain (1952)
Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961)
My Big Fat Greek Wedding (2002)
The Great Gatsby (2013)
Bridesmaids (2011)
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Please tackle a Mondler video, arguably the best "Friends" couple of all time! 👫💘
Please make one about the "Latin character trope"
Mainly Hollywood only uses WHITE men and women that are kinda 'sunkissed' but not people of colour. Latin actors are only contracted if they are White (the best roles) and black for characters that are villains like tv shows Breaking bad and the saga Fast and furious.
Latin countries are diverse, with black, native, biracial of both etnies, white, asian, even arab people from history immigration shifts.
For example, it is rare a brazilian or argentian in movies being represented by black or native actors. Only white ones
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Thank you for this!! I'll enjoy my premium ❤️❤️😘
I will never forgive Hollywood for ruining men/women friendship.
Same, it's why I loved The Half of It. It focuses more on platonic love.
@@MrsUzumaki I think the complaint is about heterosexual people of opposite genders tho.
Just had a whole conversation on this too. Life really imitates art but no one realizes this isn't real love and how relationships work
But there is male/female friendship in rom-com (if the guy is gay or friend zoned hahaha). But feel "fall in love to your friend" the only trope that seems a little realistic since people usually fall for someone they know very well, the audience see the chemistry and construction of the relationship.
Absolutely, feminism had nothing to do with it, it was all Hollywood's fault.
"you don't wanna be in love, you wanna be in love in a movie"
and I oop-
Yep, Rosie O'Donnell speaks nothing but the truth! 💯 Most people simply like the IDEA of being in love, and don't know how to go about it.
Cringe.
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Cringe.
Cringe.
i can't stand most rom-coms because miscommunication is so frustrating to me. like, just t a l k to each other
Agreed, it always bugs me that there's typically a Third Act Misunderstanding, during which one half of the main couple, usually the male, is caught in a compromising position with someone else by their partner, who normally storm off in a huff, without even giving them the chance to explain their actions. This unnecessary conflict almost always drives the last half hour of the movie! 🤦🏻♀️
My problems with Bridget Jones relationship with Mark. Keep in mind I grew up wanting to be as pretty as her and what it might curves to look like her but now I'm 30 years old and I have no desire to be like her.
I feel like that's very realistic though. People misunderstand each other all the time and instead of solving it they either break up or stop talking and go online to ask strangers for advice when the only real solution would be to talk because strangers can never know the whole situation. It's too common
Seems a billion times more frustrating to complain so
much about it
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
so how about keeping reality and fiction separate and maybe instead of looking up to fiction too much like some mindless fool instead well just be yourself maybe or maybe look up to people from real life like don't parents exist or something
Okay, here me out: Disney’s Tangled is one of the greatest rom-coms of all time.
I agree, I adored it, and it reads like a rom com for kids, in a lot of ways! 😍
y e s, omg i loved that movie so much
Grace Fire Anastasia isn’t a Disney movie
Better than "When Harry met Sally"? HA!! 😆😆😆😆😆
So that’s why I hate Tangled!
"you don't wanna be in love, you wanna be in love in a movie". I came here for a good time but im honestly feeling so attacked right now
Me too
Ditto, I wouldn't be surprised if The Take simply followed its viewers around daily, it knows them so incredibly well! 😂💗
I think i love the idea of love more than love itself,if that makes sense
Or ship them, as we call it 👀
😂😂😂
Jane Austen’s heroines always ended up married because her books wouldn’t have been published if they remained happily single. Women in stories had to either end up married, dead or a fallen women.
Yeah, Jane didn't have any other options for a happy ending
Like Jo in Little Women, the publishers made the writer give her a husband
Exactly! Whenever a woman does something that goes against the feminist narrative, the only possible explanation is that she was influenced or coerced by the patriarchy..
Getting married was the only goal back then.
@@Chris-rg6nm the point is a woman in a story doesn't have to have a romance in order for it to be a good story.
"there's a thin line between love and hate" actually no, there really isn't. I'm so sick of that toxic narrative
What do you mean exactly?
Well, I think the way "hate" is portrayed in romantic movies isn't quite hate, it's more of "oh, I'm annoyed because you're a jerk, but feel bad with myself for being so attracted to you" such feeling causes the protagonist to lash out their frustrations on the romantic interest, creating an "enemies to lovers" trope.
I think they’re making fun of rom-coms in this video, hence why they say that as well as “The heroine has relatable flaws like being clumsy”.
A do believe that is the case though. Love can so easily turn to hate. Both are such strong feelings.
I don't believe however that it's easy for hate to turn to love. It takes a lot of understanding to get to that point. I think that's why these stories have this trope. There is a reason to keep the characters apart for so long.
Is there anything that feminists don't find _toxic..?_
what i like about rom-coms is them spacious apartments. Damn, high ceilings, full length windows, all that sunlight.
That’s the real fantasy 😍
And New York!!!!😍😍
lol
hahaaa yes, millennials know what's up, I'll take an affordable home over romance any day
Tell em
But the stuff in Jane Austen weren’t fluffy fantasies. They were her reality. They were social comedies, not “romances” (which really didn’t exist at the time).
Well, no. Romances in some form have always existed in literary culture- all the way back to the 1600's with Shakespeare and even further. There are even myths that fit the Romance genre. I agree that Austen was one of the first to incorporate romance into social commentary.
That is true to some extent, but given the difference of social class between Darcy and Elizabeth, love between then in real life was next to impossible. Turns out, our girl Austen was fan-servicing.
Yes!! Correct!!!👏👏👏👏
Rashmi Baskey in the book they were basically in the same class but the Bennetts were stretched pretty thin with having so many daughters.
@@SnazzyArcade incorrect. They were clearly of different social classes. The descriptions of their homes and estates are very different.
I like The Take videos, they are like one half entertainment and one half Therapy.
That's the best way to describe them
tbh that's what we all need at this point
this is exactly what I feel when i watching the Take
yeah when they explained about "the nice guy" trope really hit me hard on the chest
After this president is gone, I hope they do one on the history of him in media. But only after he is gone.
Can we officially retire the "Being at each other's throats='Chemistry' " trope?
Yes,please
can we retire romcoms, please?
Susan Delgado no❤️
@@ariesbish9093 whatever, Karen
@@SusanDelgado1177 stop watching them and you would have solved the problem for yourself
I love how Crazy Rich Asians shows a couple that (aside from the very beginning) has excellent communication skills, where the conflict is between Rachel and Nick’a family, but he is always on her side. Excellent change of a tired trope.
it’s low key the asian richer version of my big fat greek wedding
Interestingly this story-line is pretty common in movie industries outside Hollywood. Most African and Asian love stories involve the partners having to deal with pressures from family because marriage in those cultures are still highly influenced by parental consent etc.
@@MoneyGist especially Nigerian movies with in-laws that make the devil look like an angel
And the couple never fought in typical Hollywood manner
@@MoneyGist nice observation!
The number of times I said to myself: "they gonna break up in two weeks" after watching a Rom-Com™ is immeasurable.
Me
I think the couple from how to lose a guy in 10 days will would split up the fastest
Agreed, they usually don't have long lasting relationships, especially in high school movies, where you just KNOW that the main couple are going to break up long before graduation! 🎓💔
I mean if it's good 2 weeks
Ah yes, the heartwarming story of a woman with amnesia falling for the man who kidnapped her
and there're remakes, ew
Classic comfort movie, right?
Maybe that's why I loved My Big Fat Greek Wedding so much. It was a romcom that didn't feel like a romcom. It didn't follow that formula. The love interests found an immediate connection with almost zero arguing between each other and the only obstacle (Toula's parents) relented halfway through the movie. And then the story just became about this woman discovering her talents that could help her get a better job, planning a wedding, and realizing the value of unconditional family love.
I loved MBFGW because it was so down-to-earth and relatable. The culture in the story resonated with mine.
It's a lot about Toula stepping outside her comfort zone. Dressing up, going to school, and putting herself out there. Her love interest is part of the story. Not all of it. And they are very cute together
Right? I love that movie! The heroine also doesn't look like a photoshopped model, and she doesn't have an exciting job and a huge apartment. Not that there's anything wrong with those things... Just, it's not relatable to most of us.
I agree. I loved that movie! If you haven't already, watch her other movie "My Life in Ruins." 😂😂😂
All reasons why MBFGW is a massive pile of donkey dung. No conflict, etc.
I always prefer the best friends in the movie tbh
because they are nice to the main character, the love interest is most of the time an asshole
why do you think people love stories? Why do you think people love superheros? Because inside their soul their is a need of love only God can truly fill. They love.even worship superheros because their is a need of a saviour . A real hero who left his throne in heaven and come to earth . He healed people taught people .. he was betrayed beaten humiliated and finally killed to pay for your sins so as to save you from hell and you reject such light such goodness. Nothing is more important to you than your soul😭😭..Please i ask of you repent/turn away from sins and trust Jesus christ as your saviour..i love you Jesus loves...he is coming soon with fury and wrath this time..
QWARA QWARA TELEVISION can you stop pushing your religion onto others? it makes people uncomfortable
I like the " I hate him and he hates me" love stories but I know it can leave to some issues later on 😂😭
Fr the best friend is always better than the bad boy
Although friends to lovers isn’t a bad trope, it kind of bugs me that we don’t get to see more hetero platonic relationships that don’t need to bubble into romance. When a (straight) girl and guy are friends in real life, they’re kind of annoyed by people around them that they’re “meant to be” which can actually hurt their relationships. There are people who actually start dating because it’s expected of them and it turns out forced and unauthentic.
I remember my best friend was a guy and my parents took pleasure in calling him my boyfriend. My step dad really pushed it to the point I started crying (he’s stupid tbh). He moved away at some point and not long after did I realize that, even for a kid, he was very overbearing and toxic and I was honestly lucky that he happened to leave my life.
This is one of the reasons why I love FRIENDS. Although Monica and Chandler get together and Ross and Rachel fall for each other, Phoebe and Joey stay just friends throughout the series. Joey and Rachel try to be a couple but fail and see that they're just friends too. What I also like about it is that the show is about FRIENDS not the couples, even though they're a big part of the story. Just my opinion, it really helped me to see, that my life is not a romcom where the ultimate goal is to find love. :)
people seem to forget that a) platonic love between two people who are attracted to each other's gender exists and b) while being like best friends is important for a serious romantic relationship, it's not necessary for two best friends to fall in love.
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I had this too with my best friend! We've been friends since we're 12 (we're 18/19 now) and a lot of people push us to become more than friends and it made me feel awkward for some time, but after I had some time with him alone in a romantic situation, I only could think how much I love him as a friend
As a bisexual I find the whole “straight men and women can’t be just friends” think weird because by that logic...I could have no friends lmao
My personal favourite romcom is ‘He’s just not that into you’ because it’s so relatable and realistic and I just love it so much
Yes! I *was* Gigi (before I had a boyfriend, haha).
Me too. That movie really help me to change my mind when it came how I used to view things. If a guy treats you mean, is not because he likes you is because he doesn't respect you!
Omg!!!!! I LOVED Scarlett Johansson in that movie.. 😍💖.. .. But she was so unnecessarily sexualised 😔😕..
That movie made me see that marriage isn't that important to me. I have a partner like Ben Affleck who doesn't really believe in marriage. Every media thing told me that meant he didn't love me "enough". But when my mother got cancer a few years ago, he would drive her to chemo and cook her food, like Ben Affleck's character did when Jen's father was ill. That's real love.
It's surprisingly ambivalent about whether he's that into you!
Don't forget the secondary couple that clearly has the healthier relationship and actually works through their issues like adults
That's probably why they're the secondary couple cuz they seem to be often kinda of boring and kinda of uninteresting somehow
unlike/compared to the Main couple
@@monabohamad2242 Idky ppl are so abundant on labeling healthy relationships as boring like sorry that we're not fighting and having makeup sex every 5 minutes. It really concerns me how in show/movies the most abusive couple has the largest fanbase. And people will go through the end of the Eartg to defend a couple that irl would leave them with alot of heartache.
@squidwardtentacles7144 because there's rarely any tension or any drama with "healthy" couples and those are major traits of Rom Coms, a healthy couple could work in a normal romantic movie but romantic COMEDIES need drama or tension.
Honestly, the only thing I‘m sick of is the „innocent, clumsy, virgin girl“ meeting the bad boy/rich boy/playboy and so on and changing them because it just shows that one girl can „change him“
We want independent women.
I guess my idea of an independent women is someone who lives her life the way SHE wants to and maybe it's not about whether or not she needs anybody...
Exactly! And it‘s not like she can‘t fall in love along the way
I think the virgin things has changed, it's more on Wattpad
You realize romance takes two, right? A romantic story involving a _strong independent whamen who needs no man!_ is an oxymoron.
@@bilge8656
were you agreeing with me?
just asking
so glad you mentioned crazy ex girlfriend!! that show is so underrated yet it has one of the best portrayals of bpd i've ever seen in a tv show, it has lgbtq+ characters, poc characters, it's funny, it's witty and it's a musical! it really deserves way more recognition 😍
Absolutely - I think in the next few years it will gain traction as more people will veer towards the message of self-love
i watched it all in april, i think, and i still think about it all the time. i'm still obsessed with the soundtrack. i wish i could watch it for the first time again!
I started it but honestly it made me sooo uncomfortable lol I’ll have to go back to it for sure!
Thanks for pointing out the BPD part, I never knew about that.
You lost me at musical
they can be so enjoyable because you can escape your own world but also sometimes just soo bad
Seconded, it's a wonderful form of escapism, yet it can offer some unrealistic expectations on what real relationships entail! 😔
@@trinaq By feminist logic, 99% of movies are _toxic_ because they feature something unrealistic. Marrying a prince is less unrealistic than having a machine send another machine back in time to kill the future leader of a revolution against them, yet all rom-coms are too unrealistic to be legal..
why do you think people love stories? Why do you think people love superheros? Because inside their soul their is a need of love only God can truly fill. They love.even worship superheros because their is a need of a saviour . A real hero who left his throne in heaven and come to earth . He healed people taught people .. he was betrayed beaten humiliated and finally killed to pay for your sins so as to save you from hell and you reject such light such goodness. Nothing is more important to you than your soul😭😭..Please i ask of you repent/turn away from sins and trust Jesus christ as your saviour..i love you Jesus loves...he is coming soon with fury and wrath this time..
@@UntakenNick what are you talking about?
yeah and you end up realizing real life isn't that good and beautiful. that an irony
I would love to see a video on teenage heartthrob. I’m not talking about a movie trope, but more real life people, like Elvis Presley, the Beatles, Leo Di Caprio& Johnny Depp in the 90s, Justin Bieber and now Harry Styles&Timothee Chalamet. I would really like another perspective on that, because I find it so interesting that they’re almost never any ultra macho guys.
If you're critiquing Hollywood with this detail, you'll go mad if you try to watch some Bollywood Rom Coms haha.
lmao 100%
Bollywood was the ONLY romcom in my home, no kissing or sex, classic foolishness.
@@UKLeonie accurate AF!!!! Also, there are soooooooo many random things that annoy me about bollywood movies.. Especially the cool girl shit.. Remember kajol in kuch kuch hota Hai?? Also, when the male actor SNIFFS the girl's neck?? Like, wtf!? 😂😂Lmao
True! Bollywood is annoying AF.
wow frrrr
Since I'm early I'm just going t drop it here that I would like to watch some The Take's videos on the Hunger Games and/or explaining YA books adaptations and the mistakes Hollywood makes while adapting those books into films. LOVE this channel!! 🎉
The Hunger Games in particular is the best adaptation I've ever seen, probably because it was adapted by the author herself, who clearly knows a good deal about audiovisual media, as the books demonstrate. But yeah, many other adaptations are quite bad
Yes yes yes!!
What a great idea!! I hope they read this!
@@taylor_green_9 Lol we all know what you mean. It's Percy Jackson right???😂😂😂 It's a good thing they're readapting it on Disney +.
@@taylor_green_9 I agree! The Hunger Games is the best adaptation I've seen so far
Romantic comedies have ruined us to the point that we just want to be in the idea of love forever and want to cherish that feeling but never realising that same feeling also make us feel miserable when that is not achieved.
So they're not fictional escapist movies made for the purpose of entertainment?
Look there is hope. I am in a looong term relationship and many things about love from those romantic comedies actually make sense. True, love is also familiarity, compromises and tough times but my girl makes me feel like everything will be alright and my heart still flutters when i see her smile. The actual love is so much better than the idea of it, but i promise there are parts that movies also get right! She is my whole world and as the years go by i love her more and more
No its not escapism, people actually rely on stories to guide life. Always have. Your nuts if you think social expectations of romance don’t effect people.
The English word 'love' doesn't cut it. Its not descriptive enough.
The Greeks had a better group of words: Eros(lustful love), Philia(platonic love), Pragma practical, and symbiotic love),
Ludus(playful love),
Storge(loyal and respectful) love,
Agape (unconditional love, i don't know if this one even exists)
Mania(obsessive love)
You get the picture.
Ideally, you should have a combination of some of these to have a great bond with your partner(except mania, obviously).
@@zacharyb2723 lol I pity you
I love romance as much as the next person, but I've been really critical of the genre these past few years. I think a great love story needs more than just 2 hours to take place, it hardly gives any time for the characters to develop. There are a few exceptions, but most movies really rush into it without solving their problems.
Totally agree! That’s why although I love romantic movies, I will always prefer tv relationships. You really get to explore the romance and get to know the characters and observe their ups and downs. It’s much more satisfying than movies where you only get a glimpse of their relationship and can only GUESS that they are right for each other.
Rom-Com Tv Series are amazing!
I feel hopeful. Cultural consciousness has shifted in a way that that people see the more toxic narratives for what they are. Take for instance the reception of "Sierra Burgess Is A Loser", Netflix's homage to 80s teen rom-com's with a "relatable" character evocative of a plus-size Molly Ringwald inhabiting the selfie-era equivalent of the Cyrano De Bergerac story. Viewers HATED it and hated the lead character, characterizing it as a creepy bordering on criminal and vaguely rapey. I was a little taken aback and confused by the strength of that reaction until I realized that the movie's demographic audience, teens and early 20s, weren't steeped in romantic comedy conventions in which deception and stalking for love and other morally questionable actions were normalized and portrayed sympathetically, as well as a general blindness to the concept of consent. In the historical context of romantic comedy conventions, that character wasn't particularly loathsome or awful compared to her (mostly male) cinematic progenitors, but modern viewers are attuned to scrutinize the character's behavior and place it into the framework of real life. They also don't view an attractive character being a few extra pounds as sufficiently persecuted or pitiable such that her desperate actions seem understandable under the weight of her feelings of unworthiness, because they don't view her appearance as an extraordinary burden. Although the popularity of Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey shows us that we still have a ways to go. People may still think that women should invest their time and safety and emotional health in the pursuit of 'fixing' toxic men, but they know now at least it's wrong to trick someone into kissing you, at least, and the vision of who deserves love and who is capable of inspiring it is less exclusionary and misogynistic.
@@RachelSpicyG exactly!! All of my favourite couples are from tv shows!
@@moonlily1 Wow, I couldn't agree more. We're slowly but surely making progress.
It's too bad that in fifty shades the main character makes it her life purpose to fix this rich, handsome white man, who is a controlling stalker but gets away with it because he's a rich, handsome white man.
But hey, at least we're on the same page that tricking someone into kissing you is wrong, and that your insecurities aren't an excuse to be an asshole to others, so... Progress!
No joke, spending lockdown watching the Take break down some of these tropes about love and romance, the "working millennial" tropes, the big city whimsical job, even the beautiful Nancy Meyers kitchen --- it's made me realise how much of my goals and life desires are based on these false versions of reality that are actually almost impossible to attain. It has made me completely rethink where I'm going with my career, what's important to me and realise how great my relationship actually is.
I feel like I've been brainwashed by my love of feel-good films !!
Super interesting, can you give some examples of ways you used to think and how it's changed? I think I've based my goals on this illusion too.
Bold of you to make a video essay on romantic comedies and not give at least a passing mention to Megamind.
Yo Schaffrilas Productions has a very lengthy vid on it ✌️
Or Shrek
Bold of you to assume they aren't Megamind
If they were to mention Romcoms by name that would take a bit
Can you please do a video on “the makeover analogy” where a girl takes her glasses of and poof she’s beautiful 😂like for example She’s all That!
I think that started with the movie about the professor who bet on his ability to teach a peasant to act like a proper lady. I remember him singing a song about why the English can't speak their language. I think the trope is "Make your own dream girl."
@@josefk7437 Do you mean, My Fair Lady?
@@josefk7437 my fair lady?
It's slightly older than that, it's a greek(?) myth. Pygmalion.
That trope was spoofed in one of those satire movies...Not Another Teen Movie, maybe? All the guys think this obviously hot girl is ugly until she takes off her glasses and pulls her hair out of a ponytail lol
Love all the bits from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, a show that expertly apes, deconstructs and analyzes the rom-com genre. Would love to see a whole analysis on Rebecca or any other CXG character!
yas that would be great!
Yeeees me too!!! You could do a ton of analysis with that show
We have been waiting and asking for ages! Please please please give it to us @the take
Come on, do The Gay Bestfriend Trope!!!
Ether Jumper they covered it in their Best Friend Trope Explained video
@Emily Ostmeyer That's not good enough. They hit that topic, for what seemed 10 seconds, when it could be talked about for hours. That's like saying that they covered The Strong Black Woman trope in any other woman based trope.
Ok, maybe not The Gay Bestfriend. How about The Gay Man: A Sordid Journey?
Yes!
Asian women trope in hollywood please.
Yes please!
what’s the trope though?
Crazy Rich Asian is a good example of that trope though.
you can do the latina women trope pleaasee
Yes, particularly the tired cliche that a Latina woman is automatically Sassy and hot tempered! 🔥
@@trinaq Or always sexy.
Thanks
"spicy Latina" is its name.
Or that us Latin women are always the housekeeper, the nanny, the caregiver, etc., you get the stereotypes they put us in movies & tv shows.
Movies and TV shows referenced in this video:
Bringing Up Baby
Bridesmaids
You've Got Mail
Big Sick
Sense and Sensibility
Alfie
Mamma Mia!
Bridget Jones Diary
Isn't It Romantic
When Harry Met Sally
Crazy Rich Asians
Silver Linings Playbook
To All The Boys I've Loved Before
Trainwreck
The Philadelphia Story
Pretty Woman
Pretty In Pink
The Graduate
Princess Diaries 2
The Holiday
Sixteen Candles
(500) Days of Summer
Harold and Maude
27 dresses
Annie Hall
Notting Hill
Manhattan
His Girl Friday
Moonstruck
The Ugly Truth
Knocked Up
10 Things I Hate About You
The House Bunny
Marriage Story
Sweet Home Alabama
Singing in the rain
The Taming of the Shrew
Pride and Prejudice
Crazy Ex Girlfriend
Master of None
Some Like It Hot
It Happened One Night
Pillow Talk
The Apartment
Say Anything
Baby Boom
Something's Gotta Give
13 Going On 30
Overboard
50 First Dates
Kissing Jessica Stein
My Best Friend's Wedding
Maid In Manhattan
Coming to America
Boomerang
How Stella Got Her Groove Back
The Best Man
Good Luck Chuck
Ghosts of Girlfriends Past
What Happens Vegas
What's Your Number
Wedding Crashers
Forgetting Sarah Marshall
Deadpool
As Good As It Gets
Love, Simon
Summer of Love
Set It Up
They CaMe Together
The Mindy Project
Blue Valentine
Before Midnight
My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Hitch
How to Lose A Guy in 10 Days
Working Girl
Down With Love
Clueless
Leap Year
The Wedding Singer
While you were sleeping
Friends with benefits
Something new
Breakfast at Tiffany's
The Back Up Plan
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Never Been Kissed
Always Be My Maybe
The Seven Year Itch
How to Marry a Millionaire
Gentlemen Prefer blondes
The Awful Truth
Broadcast news
Lover Come Back
Cant Buy Me Love
Serendipity
Jerry Macguire
As You Like It
Twelfth Night
Midsummer nights Dream
Much ado about nothing
Thankyou for this 😍
Uff! Thank you, dude 🙂
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you!
Omg you read my mind. I was stopping and checking for it on Netflix every time 😭
When Harry Met Sally will forever be my favourite rom com. I like how it primarily focuses on a friendship rather than romance and the mutual respect they had for each other and their lives. The part when Sally talks about splitting from Jo and the 'I spy a family' story makes me cry every time because i relate to it on a deeply personal level. I don't like rom coms at all, I feel ashamed to say I watch them but When Harry Met Sally will always hold a place in my heart.
“The late middle aged fantasy where all the women wear white cashmere turtlenecks and have FANTASTIC kitchens!” killed me 😂😂
Crazy Ex Girlfriend is one of the best thing that's happened in the last decade. Every line of that show is gold (especially the first season).
"Isn't it Romantic" is one of my favourite modern chick flicks, since it good naturedly lampoons some of the more cheesy clichés, while unapologetically being a feel good romantic romp! 💕❤️
Oh my god yeah the fake “gay best friend that doesn’t have a job” was actually hilarious/offensive
Hey, I just wanted to say that I love your comments! They're very informative and entertaining 😁
It is such an underrated gem.
well if they hadn't made her realise she likes her best friend it would have been awesome
It's only a feel good movie if you're an obese feminist, I doubt the rest of the population finds fat acceptance propaganda to be entertaining.
Could you do “the nice guy trope”, but this time, the actual nice guy haha and not the one who pretends.
She did one already it's on the channel
@@gloriasesay8979 She meant the actual nice guy who's actually nice.
It was already done. The real nice guy is usually the guy that is portrayed as the friend of the protagonist who is the "nice guy."
@@withniejules2244 It was already done. If you watched the whole video, she does talk about them
They already covered that in the fake "nice guy" video.
I know that they're problematic sometimes but I LOVE this genre. I want to go watch all of these now 😂
@@UntakenNick please for your own sake...stop
Exactly
@@moniesworld8468 stop what?
Rom-coms are unrealistic..
Well yeah, I usually go to most movies with that mindset. It's escapism.
99% of movies are unrealistic. But somehow it only rom-com who gets a hard time because of that.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
Raw escapism isn’t the only reason to watch movies. Its fine but sometimes movies go beyond that and say something real, pose a question that actually makes you think about your life. Like ‘Europa Report’ - would you die to know for certain whether we are alone in the universe?
@@zacharyb2723 That's true. I just mentioned escapism because the take mentioned that rom-coms were unrealistic. I thought it was weird because I don't think rom-coms ever claimed to be?
@@laisfrederick5470 Probably because with other movies, we know that they're unrealistic, but unfortunately, romcoms are placed in realistic enough settings where the viewers believe that that's how relationships actually work.
I just realized.. All of my relationship problems stem from early, obsessive consumption of rom-coms.
TheTake may have saved my life.
Hitch is not a ladies man he never treats the women badly he’s just helping real nice guys to win the girls they admire in a positive way.
Concurred, he's a genuinely sweet guy who just wants to help men land the girls of their dreams, but his love interest Sara accuses him of being one based on the experience of a friend of hers who slept with a jerk who claimed that he used Hitch's advice, and then promptly dumped her.
By getting them to lie...
Help Me no by giving them an actual chance. The men aren’t tricking the women into liking them they’re just coming to the women from a different maybe less aggressive/annoying angle. Which allows the women to see them for who they really are and not how they may have perceived them under different circumstances
Help Me he’s just being this relationship coach that only teaches the etiquettes and is up to them how they work like how alegra tells hitch of why she loves albert by having his way.
Can you do fat girl trope?
Make it previously fat.. I think it's more complex and common.
She is funny! - here, I summed up her whole personality.
There's plenty of feminist fat acceptance videos out there already.
@@UntakenNick that's not what J L asked for but ok
@@SoVidushi What would that video say other than obesity is an inherent part of a woman's identity and not a consequence of her bad lifestyle choices and thus people's rejection towards them is unfair and a product of arbitrarily constructed beauty standards? That's exactly what fat acceptance videos say.
Please make an Indie Film or the Chosen One trope video
The amount of crazy ex girlfriend clips..
. I love it!!
Precisely, "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" is a deconstruction of a rom com, and its protagonist Rebecca sincerely believes that she's in one, only she's sorely mistaken, and she's later revealed to have Borderline Personality Disorder later on in the show. 💕
“you don’t wanna be in love, you wanna be in love in a movie”
me, a hopeless romantic: 👁👄👁
I'm sorry, but a decision to not include any mention of Roman Holiday, Sabrina, Funny Face, Love in the Afternoon, etc. during the discussion of mid-century rom-coms must have been made deliberately. They were just as influential if not more than the ones mentioned.
Love the inclusion of crazy ex-girlfriend! It's such a clever and funny show and it doesn't get enough praise for how brilliant it ist
I’m gonna keep commenting this until we get a character analysis about Derek shepherd from greys anatomy!! I personally think he’s the worst, but I’ve had debates with friends for YEARS over whether his character is good or bad and right for Meredith. PLEASE make this video I’m begging!!!😭🙏🏾
the only male characters who had real growth and were actually the good guys are mark and alex.
one of the best scams shondz pulled was the mcdreamy persona bc derek never had much of a character development and acted more like a jerk than people would realize. but he got away with it bc he was the self proclaimed good guy who was optimist and " romantic"
I am interested in why that show kills off so many of its characters. It seems like they all die horrible deaths.
@@josefk7437 because at at the end of the day is a soap opera and a soap opera works around people getting together and breaking up. After you have used a character as much as you can for this role you have to get rid of it and to put new characters in order to keep the story going. As many of these characters love so much the hospital or their partners it would not make sense to have them transfer somewhere else, so the only option is to kill them off
You r correct!! Me and my sister talk about this all the time Derek is trash he just hides behind his face and title- McDreamy
Now with that being said i admit I still love him🥴🥴👀
Romcoms give me hope and make me feel good idc about anything else 😂
same girl same
Wrong! You're supposed to hate rom-coms because they promote unrealistic expectations about romantic love as well as oppressive gender roles imposed by the patriarchy!
Exactly, as they said in the video, rom-coms are to cinema what comfort food is to aliments
Give you hope? Are you trying to say you actually think you are going to have a relationship like the ones you see in movies? If you think that then I feel pity for you
@@wilts8965 No I'm smart enough to realise that it isn't real and take it as what it is - just a movie. Like I know I'm not going to fight ghosts when I see a horror movie.
Love me some witty dialogue. Shakespeare and Hepburn
Like in "Team America: World Police."
Kevin Smith's, "Chasing Amy," is a good example of a Rom-Com having a more honest ending. The "love" couple in question, after all is said and done, are not acknowledged to have ended up together, or even as friends, but are put into more of a, "Maybe get some coffee sometime," kind of situation. The ending leaves room for that "Happily ever after," which is, more or less, expected of a Rom-Com, but gives the entire story and it's principle characters more depth because of the reality it shares with the audience. Throughout the movie, you can see how writer, Kevin Smith, even makes subtle and realistic jabs at what is/was typically insincere about Rom-Coms.
can you guys please do this film called The Half of it
it's kinda a reflection of how the rom com trope has evolved and I think it's representative of where it is now
I'm ngl, I recently binged Hugh Grant comedies because I just wanted to feel good xD
Hi The Take, thank you again for introducing me to "Down with Love" in the bad boy trope video, that movie is hilarious and such a breath of fresh air (something that I don't get much of in these past few months).
I might watch Twelfth Night next (so behind on all this rom-com)
"When You Look at Someone through Rose-Colored Glasses, All the Red Flags Just Look Like Flags" - You know who
Getting married destroyed rom-coms for me. The true intimacy of a real relationship makes these intolerable. They are just so superficial.
Girl, same! Nothing like my real life marriage. I can still watch a high school movie like "Mean Girls", but I can no longer stomach most Jennifer Lopez films.
When Harry Met Sally is one of my favorite movies. 💕 It is an escape for me. I've probably seen it over 100 times.
But in reality, most of my best friends are men. I don't think I've ever once thought that men and women couldn't be friends.
I found that movie excellent and not annoying at all
Please do the witch and girly girl trope!
Lovely video! Could you do a video on Crazy Ex-Girlfriend? That show would be perfect for this channel!
What I love so much about Jane Austen is that her portrayal of love and social interactions were very realistic. Like how she got everyone to actually have a view of the world and that causing many misconceptions, or how characters realize their mistakes and flaws. Also is great how love is portrayed as something you have to put work into, not something that just happens, like Elizabeth and Mr Darcy who fall in love through realizing their own misconceptions about each other and discovering their real character based on their actions and behavior, also they actually share interests and the same set of values, which makes them an strong couple.
when harry met sally is for sure the best romcom of all time. nothing can compare.
I’m loving The Take’s consistent love for Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
it would be cool to see a video about the 'other person' in these rom-coms, like the person who's dating the love interest at the beginning, they're usually treated as being totally one-dimensional and they often get mistreated/ignored in order for the main characters to get their big love story
every single time i watch your videos i always find myself rethinking my entire life and how i go about things. it really teaches me more about myself. it kinda feels like therapy and entertainment at the same time.
Justice 4 George Floyd 🇺🇸
uumm this has nothing to do with george floyd
Disney's Maleficent (2014) is the most honest depiction of "true love" in cinema. Superior to any rom com. Still waiting for an in-depth analysis of the movie by this channel.
I'm always happy when I see that you gals posted a new video! Honestly, you are doing great work!!
So not only is the video constantly interrupted by ads, but there are ads within the video. Great tactic. Makes watching your content so enjoyable
That scene in "Crazy Ex Girlfriend" really described all the rom-coms.
I came into this thing thinking: how long will they last before they mention crazy ex girlfriend. They made it 10 seconds in :clap:
I seriously adore The Take. It's definitely my top 3 TH-cam channels and I have over 500 subscriptions
best thing about rom-coms: house/apartment goals 😂💓
the kitchen, the bedroom, the living room 💓
TRUEE
You should do the 'final girl' trope with horror films 😊
I would love love love your take on Schmidt from new girl (or any character from new girl... or all of them)
I love getting these notifications! I was just craving a new video!
I was thinking a video on Scrubs and the fantasy framing device would be an interesting topic for The Take :)
Watched this while eating breakfast! Great way to start my day. Love your content. Thank you!
hold up. we literally forgot that cher and josh in clueless were former step-siblings.
I think about this EVERY TIME it's mentioned! But no one else seems to bat an eye. ?????
@@doid4354 We didn't forget. It's a non-issue. They're not related by blood. Though it's kind of tropey to fall for the step-sibling with whom the protagonist is at odds.
@@mhawang8204 I'm so sick of this one. "you were hardly ever married to his mother and that was like 5 years ago!" This means Josh and Cher were step-siblings for probably a year, maybe two, on paper. So, she was an 11 year old girl and he was a 13-14 year old boy. They are clearly complete opposites in personality and it is seriously doubtful that they hung in the same social circles. Does anyone honestly think they really ever saw themselves as brother and sister?
Yes, it’s gross.
I have never been so early.
Early for what? Breakfast?
Noob
@@giadap9501 quit it
thank you for inserting the movies you've mentioned!
You two are incredible! Thank you for these valuable insights. Wow! This clear analysis is what we’ve been missing.
My least favorite part of a rom com is that part near the end where they've already fallen for one another but they're separated due to the underlying conflict in the film. Sometimes it's the simplest thing that they could have easily spoken to each other about. That being said, I love the genre and I'm enjoying the wave of self-awareness that we're currently in.
I just watched The Lovebirds on Netflix last night. Issa Rae and Kumail Nanjiani. It is genuinely phenomenal!!! Not just a romcom but a mystery, fish out of water thriller, too. I laughed so hard that I could barely breathe!
This video is fantastic and so well done! I prefer this type of trope analysis to the TV series character analysis that they have been doing lately. Although the whole channel has veered more pop culture than their old content. And I miss that.
congrats on 1M! Been a sub since you were 155k this channel is consistently giving out quality videos 👌🏼👌🏼
'You don't want to be in love, you want to be in love in a movie' no I want to be in love in a k-drama 😂
Which one's your favourite? Any recommendations 😬, my first one was coffee prince 🙂
@@zaidrehman21 oooh thats a good one, I recommend legend of the blue sea (my fav), strong woman do bong so, goblin, weight lifting fairy and whats wrong with secretary kim for now. I don't want to bombard you lol 😂
Watching this makes me realize that I really do not like Rom-Coms.
I generally do not like most of them. It really depends on whether or not the central conflict relies on the main characters being purposely shitty people and having shit communication or if it's something outside of the relationship keeping them apart.
For me it's one of my least favorite genres out there, although it may be because I dislike romance in general.
I love that you've been including clips from Crazy Ex Girlfriend! You should do a video about the series. It explores so many great topics
You guys have been making the quarantine time work for you I see!
PLEASE DO GOSSIP GIRL AND HOW IT REMINDS US OF F SCOTT FITZGERALD NOVELS!!!!!!!!
Yes. Queen B approves this proposition. 👸🏻👑🤣
Great video! You should do the disability superpower trope next.
I learn so much from these its like a film class!!! Thanks so much for great content
Nobody’s talking about how perfect that intro was 👌🏼💯
Do a video on the main character having daddy issues and how it affects their relationships.
Please, do a white savior trope video. Thank you.
I get super excited whenever I see Crazy EX Girlfriend mentioned. Most underrated show ever
This is probably my favorite The Take video.
Marilyn Monroe on the teaser? I'd love to hear more than a couple throwaway lines about her.
Edit: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE