Progressive 944 Shocks! - Install & Test Ride! | '15 SGS | ShopTalk / TestRides
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I take you all from the install to a good evening test ride. And even though the sag wasn’t even close, the shocks should have bottomed out quite easily, they were a 150% better than the premium Showa shocks that Harley puts on the Special Series Street Glide. The setting that turned out to be perfect for me solo on the bike was 5 turns in (1-⅛” chassis sag). I was able to get a break in the rain and test ride it with the new setting and it was incredible!
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Real happy to see a test ride with more info I am looking at a set of 412 on my shovelhead this all helps thanks.
Just saw your Progressive shocks install video. Thanks for posting it!! It answered a question I had for my Bitubo shocks install. They will be mounted inverted like your Progressives. I wasn't sure since the OEM shocks are mounted the opposite direction. Great video!! I'm a subscriber to your channel now.
How do you like the Bitubo shocks? I just received mine but not installed yet. I did notice one shock is slightly longer than the other. Says that is correct in the manual. Never seen 2 different length shocks before
Hey Shawn, I want to thank you for making this video. I just bought some 944's and used your video as guide on how to install. Literally took less than 10 mins because I knew what to do. Great job!
How do we factor in the weight of the saddlebags and their contents? As well as the passenger. You doing a great job of instructing a basic shock install. But we all know there more to it. Progressive 444 shocks
Hey Shawn
When you live in Denmark, thats in Europe by the way.. And you can't ride your bike for 5 months.. 😏
It is an absolute plesure to "ride" with you through the beautyful landscape.. Keep making these vlogs👍
Great video!! installing mine this weekend, Using this video!!
Hey Shawn, awesome video buddy! I bought a 2016 SG and had to change the shocks straight away. The roads in Australia are not great and the SG really was like riding a bronco! I have installed the 944's and it has settled down to remove that spine jarring bumps that we had on the standard shocks. Would love to see how you took the sag out buddy as I am keen to adjust that too...cheers Shawn
Would these be suitable to use on my 2019 Freewheeler ? When you take your measurement, use some blue painters tape on the fender strut and make a mark with a sharpie.
Hey Shawn, how does these shocks compare to the 2017 stock shocks that you have on now. Are they better or worse. Thinking of buying the 2017 shocks and installing it on my 2015 RGS. If they are comparable I would get the 2017 shocks because of ease of adjustment. I ride solo and two up and I don't want to fiddle with 944 adjustment.
What pipes are you running? They sound awesome! I am having issues with my 944's. I just installed them last August but I don't think I have them dialed in correctly. I can't find my instructions so I guess I'll just have to play around with them. We went for a ride yesterday and I would have rather been on a dirt bike. What could be wrong?
Shawn do you still have the 944's on your bike and are they still as good cheers bob from UK
I just installed these shocks to get a smoother/softer ride on my 2014 SGS, I’ve found them to be not much better than the lousy stock shocks.
I called the shop that recommended them, the mechanic said they take about 500 miles to break in! What? Never heard of such a thing. I’m going to remove them try to sell them and try another brand.
aren't those upside down? If you watch the official progressive install video, it shows the shocks flipped...
Great video, thanks for the effort. I´m probably going for the 944´s right now.
Nice job! What kind of jack are you using?
LOL didn't take long before you started making improvements to the stock parts. i wonder what's next on your list of things you'd like to do?
+Robert Robb - I think that's almost a Harley right of passage to start modding to one's liking... Lol For the 1st week or so, I couldn't imagine what would ever have to be changed (other than the standard intake and exhaust). I really didn't give the shocks much thought until taking that Ultra Limited for a couple test rides... Those shocks made for such a pleasant ride, I just had to change them on the SGS. Now that I have the sag set on these 944's and gone for a few rides, I couldn't be happier! One more thing will be in next week, and that's a 7" clear shield to replace the stock 4". I'm hoping that will make the headwind performance better while keeping the low profile look. I went with clear so I can go back to my standard chin mount with the GoPro. I look a little odd packing two forward facing cameras on my helmet all the time... Lol
Thanks Robert!
Shawn Smoak mn
I like that you said. A mode for the Old Road King. You really miss the old girl. Thanks for these. They really help us home DYI. Thanks
I put the 944 shocks on my 2014 street glide and they are a great improvement on the stock, especially 2 up riding.
Just installed a set of 944's on my 2016 Roadglide, (you're video convinced me to try them) Really super satisfied with the ride and the lower position. gonna put a few more miles on and reset the sag ....but so far , no complaints , smooth ride , doesn't bottom out and my feet are flat at stops..Thanks again Shawn!
*smiles*...I always take his advice, rarely if never he's wrong.
I have 4.5 stretched bags. Do these really lower the bike that much to where I'd have to worry about scraping
I just ordered one too, hope it work out on my RG. thanks
+fastbagger - I have the idle set at the standard 1,000 rpm. I didn't lower it with the SE Super Tuner Pro in fear of making the compensator noisier on takeoff's than it already is... Harley is using the SE Compensator as OEM on all the 103HO and CVO bikes. The complaints of the takeoff noise is massive, but it's a much better compensator and quite easy to avoid the noise when taking off. I forget sometimes and make it do it...
Thanks for watching!
+Shawn Smoak Please upload the long vlogs, I love to come home after work and put on your channel as I relax after a hard nights work.
orckiller91 - Awesome, someone actually watches all the way through the long ones! Lol
Thank you, I appreciate you watching and commenting!
Shawn Smoak
My pleasure! And question, would you call the Street glide "Beginner friendly" If they take it easy and don't hold the throttle wide open?
That should be a significant change. Do you Have to change everything when you go 2 up .. I find I like having the rear a bit on the firmer side, not to firm but firmer than how it came... guess it doesn't help i'm chubchub, but I just like a planted rear end .. hehe. Very nice mods .. These touring bikes can be seriously addictive.
I seen that video about the air shocks i had to laugh the left & right shocks do not move independently the swing arm is one solid piece connected to 1 tire moving both shocks up & down together. All you can do is shake your head. I'm buying 944 ultra lows for my wife's roadking. I have a ultralimited & I love my factory air shocks. Thank you for the video.
I'm looking to get a set of these for my new 2020 RGS. Legends are too $. Would this be a set of shocks you'd recommend over stock?
If I could find a pair of gently used.. 🤞🏼
I finally get my15 minutes of fame. Very honored to be mentioned Shawn. :) Thank you kindly. I couldn't see the gauges changing their illumination, but the Nav definetely was throughout yur ride though. Maybe I only notice because I dont have a dash. ;)
+J. Austin - You bet, thanks for noticing that on the Ultra! After some searching and testing, I found out the SGS doesn't do that. That's a bummer, as they can be tough to see at dusk... I have the nav set to the default "auto" light adjust setting.
Thanks Jay!
Great video man! I just ordered a set of 944s for my Street Glide... can't wait!
Did you take a before and after measurement of the ride height? I am curious if you stayed at the same height as you were with the stock 12" air shocks with the 13" 944 shocks.
Also curious
I dont have those model shock but i do have progressive shocks and idk on those but my stock set and new set put the sleeve for ypur bolt top and bottom are opposite what you done with yours the stop on your sleeve supposed to be out. Idk you may have installed backwards
Thanks for the suggestions, but I can assure you they are installed correctly and exactly as Progressive instructed...
Since this video, I've purchased a newer SGS and the shocks have been on that bike until a few days ago when I replaced them with Legend Revo-A shocks. The upgrade is simply amazing!!! Here's that video: th-cam.com/video/B5eGw-WVnKM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Enjoyed all 47+ minutes! We'll see you on the next one...
Nice . wont you get a rattle with the washers on the bumpstop ? Normally the bumpstop would hold the washers down but with the inverted install they must be free to make noise ?
+Roffa73 - The bumpstop was slid up on the shaft still from assembly. It got knocked down (or up in this case) and seated with the first good bump I hit... It probably made some noise till then, but I never heard anything.
Thanks for watching!
I have a 1999 Roadking had local shop put the 944 low and the lowering front tubes which were lowered almost an 1 1/2 in front ! Bike looks awesome ! However it rides horribly ! It almost bumps me off the bike ! A road I travel all the time has small buckles that I never noticed til now almost makes me ill the way it hops ! Any idea what adjustment if any can be made spent a lot of $ couldn't be more disappointed ?
Very impressed with the 412 Series Progressive rear coil overs we installed on 2021 RGS #performancebaggin build!!
I know just where you're coming from with that mod mate. I know it's not as important on a big old cruiser, but I love to be able to dial in the suspension on a bike. The Triumph Speed triple had fantastic adjustablility and I dialled those things in perfect for my riding style.
When I had the EXUP I changed out the rear shock for an Ohilns and man what a huge difference! It was a completely different ride.
Plus, it's just nice to change stuff on your bike. ;o)
Lovely wildlife shot with the deer mate, I liked that.
Nice one mate.
How do we factor in the weight of the saddlebags and their contents? As well as the passenger. You doing a great job of instructing a basic shock install. But we all know there more to it. Progressive 444 shocks
+shawn smoak . Hi shawn . Bought 11.5 inch nearly new Showa for rear of my XLH hugger... With the standard 13 inch its high rear... What's your view on these
Thanks for sharing, great video. I was looking at the 2015 Street Glide, which cost here 34K in US Dollar, but decided than for the Street Bob (cost as much as a Street Glide in your area lol) --- That was my little rant about Harley prices in Ireland --- I just adjusted my shocks to position 5 of 1-5 after checking the owners handbook, damn I missed the weight settings when I decided for that bike lol. Would you think that progressive shocks make a huge difference at a Dyna ? We have bad streets here in Ireland ... and I mean BAD.
Nice Video, thanks. What are using to record? GoPro? Very impressive how you can comment during the ride. My GoPro picks up too much noise, but I don't have a full helmet. Even with your visor up sounds great. What's the secret?
that's funny, you still have the Road King on your mind.. One thing to remember is you can always put a bit of lithium grease on your bushing to keep them from squeaking or you can put a bit of spit on the steel sleeves going into the bushings to help lube them up and make them slide into the rubber easily and obviously it will dry pretty quickly.
That thing is so much cooler looking without the bags, rack, and rear seat upright on it.
Shawn.. you have a camera you can hook up to your phone.. use your gopro on a stand, aim it at the tape measure and watch it on your phone.. just keep it in a narrow mode so you have a chance in hell of actually reading it.
What kind of jack is that? Can I buy one like it?
+gghostrrider - It's a motorcycle scissor jack sold by K&L Supply. They are readily available online.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great work on the how to install. Couple of questions. Do you have to re-torque the bolts a certain time after installation? Do you need a specific type of jack to lift it. Thanks in advance.
+casper3380 I think the instructions I received shows 35-40 ft#'s if I am not mistaken.
Road king I know you don't have this bike anymore but you called your bike a road king ???!!! Street glide is the correct name
What a great video. As usual. What are your thoughts on Magnetorheological
style suspension for a Harley. I'm sure it's coming. And thanks so much for yet another entertaining video.
Great roads
Hi Shawn, may I know what camera u r using while riding? Super nice clear exhaust sound and without the wind noises, how u do that?
Too bad they don’t come with an adjuster knob like the stock Harley shocks.
Love the longer videos Shawn. My suggestion is that if you have the footage for longer vids then brother, toss it up on youtube, the longer videos are informative and entertaining, thanks for putting them up.
Dude I'd like to know how you made out with the sag and if everything was fine with the upside down shocks and how the bike handles
+Don Still - It was a little odd to set up with the built-in 1" of sag, but it worked out great. About 1K~1.5K miles back, I gave the adjusters one full turn stiffer each after the shocks broke-in and I've been very happy since. I know I'm pleased when I never give the suspension a single thought anymore. The handling of the bike has been great from day one, even with the OEM premium shocks... She's a big heavy bike, so you have to respect that when you try to keep up with kids on sport bikes! Lol
Thanks Don!
+Don Still thank you) I ordered a set for my Road glide 2015 maybe you could do the picture of that on TH-cam Setting the sag up if you have time just
Got mine ordered a couple days ago. Can't wait to see how they feel.
Please let us know how they go
@@CHEVYK10 well change of plans I canceled that order and decided to go with legend revo a shocks. Haven't received them but hoping for a quality set of shocks for close to 1k.
Hey Shawn. Love your vids. Hi from New York. As far as your dash lights there's a setting that you can brighten them. You can do it from your control center.
Shawn ...Consider me confused...... I'm installing new Progressive 994's on my 2015 Street Glide. The supplement says to install rod end up if detachables utilize the top shock mount. The 4 point kit for detachables is mounted to the rear frame not the shock mount. Am I mistaken on what is considered the top shock mount?
What detachable accessories utilize the top shock mount on a 2015 Street Glide?
+Gary Jones A backrest uses the mounts on the inside of the shock mount. The bottom of the bracket will hit the top of the shocks when installing the backrest if the shocks are not installed upside down.
What brand of jack did you use? Thanks!
K&L Supply MC-450 Center Jack: a.co/aHbjcPI
Thanks!
I opened the video for the shock review. Watched the whole thing! Amazing riding landscape! Thanks..
So here is an idea why didn't you use your camera to see tape measure lol
Glad I stuck with this one...the deer in the field, then the moon over the mountain...quite a treat!
Thanks for the review. I bought them too but not liking them as much on my Glide. Might go back to air shocks. What Vlog hardware you use?
why ev 1 hate the air shocks so much?
Hi Shawn, Love your videos. I had 944's on my 2013 Road Glide Custom. I found that the standard air shocks with 2" of travel gave a very harsh ride. As for the 944's, I was not able to dial in the pre-load to provide a decent ride. The shocks were stiff and bottomed out often. I called the tech's at Progressive Suspension and they were not able to help. The literature says that the 944's fit essentially all of the Harley Touring bikes. The issue with that, is that the Harley touring bikes have gained a lot of weight of the last few years. My 2013 is 90 lbs heavier than my old '05. I suspect that the springs on the 944's are too light. I ended up removing the 944's and replacing them with air shocks from a Road King ( 3" of travel) Although the Road Glide rides a bit higher, the ride is much better than the standard Road Glide Custom shocks or the 944's. How would you compare the STS's ride to the Spyder RT's ride over these rough roads ? Cheers ...Rick
Definitely a good upgrade. Such a super sweet bike!
The 970s would've been bad ass
Question, why do you have to spend all this cash to sort Harley's out Shawn ,? surely a bike as expensive as this should breath ,drive and ride well from the get go or am I missing something ? I've never had to do this with my Hondas and Suzukis etc is this just something peculiar to HD ??
It's the style of bike as far as ride goes, this is a special which is the same as my 2013 roadglide custom, as in the rear suspension is slammed.
The do that to get a certain look that people really like, the downfall is you are sacrificing suspension travel for that slammed look.
Harley's ultras are fine no need to mess with the suspension because they are great the way they are.
As far as breathing first don't blame Harley blame the epa they are the ones who regulate that.
Two we who own Harley's love to mod them so we open them up ourselves and add after market exhaust and air breathers etc, we like to have our bikes look and sound the way we want.
You mention the metric bikes, you really are comparing apples to oranges there, when we say if you don't own one you will never understand, we truly don't say that because we think we are superior to you or your ride.
We say it because owning a Harley is truly unlike any other bike and it is by far in my opinion the best bike out there.
I do own several different bikes including a Suzuki, but as stated above the Harley is my favorite for so many reasons.
Now you can ride them stock and never do a thing to them, I know of many people who do that, but for me and many others I modded mine because I wanted a sound and a look that was different from others and with the literally hundreds of thousands of aftermarket parts the sky is the limit as what you can do with these great American bikes.
Right! You've never had the urge to farkle? I changed everything on my Kawasaki Concours to suit me and now I'm doing the same on my RGS. You must be easy to please. ;-)
I saw both the dog and the deer! Two things Shawn pointed out and I saw them!! #winning
Lol... Thanks Jamie! For once, the GoPro seen what I was pointing out... Lol
Hey Shawn, I have a 2015 Street Glide Special and thinking about getting the Progressive 944's and wanted to see how they are still working out for you. I see you installed them about a year ago. Also did installing these lower your bike by 1 inch?
Randy Overton I have a good 2015 SGS also. I just ordered these off Amazon. How did they work out for you?
John I haven't bought them yet. I chose to put on some heated grips and more LED lighting first. Let me know how yours work out.
Will do. Won't riding till april though unfortunately. Unless there is a warm day in March.
Had a warm weekend. Installed the shocks and they made a world of difference. Really made the ride much more pleasurable. Highly recommend them.
Awesome! Thanks for the info John. Looks like this will be my next purchase.
Looks like a pretty straight forward instal. I'm glad it worked out like you hoped. Have fun on the new "Road King". :-) Couldn't resist.
+sam smith - Yeah, it's quite simple on these dual shock setups... Maybe I should just use Road King as the Street Glide's nick name! Lol I get it half right sometimes when I call it a Road Glide...
Thanks Sam!
What kind of helmet mount
Love the longer vids!
Nice job
at 1,30 ohh shan, you really miss your road king.
Great video! I have a 16 RGS, put legend rear suspension on. On way to Bike week in Myrtle Beach last weekend and encountered some terrain I hadn't traveled on before with the new Legends. Could not find a happy medium , it almost felt like I had a tire issue. Make a long story short, ended up going with the progressive standard 944. Love the shocks but I will say they are stiff. Have mine set at 1.25 turns is preload and I'm probably 175-180. With the wife on back and 50 lbs of luggage I was at 6 revolutions.
Had them do the front springs too.
Shawn, you do a nice job at explaining stuff! Would be any chance you could do a video checking critical Fasteners on the harley street guide? Like checking the torque of the motor mounts, frame bolts? i also love watching your videos on rides! Thank you!