What You Need to Know About Omega 3 and 6 Fats | Prof Philip Calder | The Proof Podcast EP

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  • @truthreigns827
    @truthreigns827 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Now this was an excellent conversation! Your guest appeared totally unbiased & honest in every response. No axe to grind, just level-headed in sharing his knowledge and deductions. Many thanks to him & you, Simon for the chance to hear from him & you asking all the key questions.

  • @zhilahaghbin4766
    @zhilahaghbin4766 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you both, so informative Dr. Calder. The more I listen to this channel, the more I am convinced plant based diet is most healthy. Simon, notice most of your guests, genuinely respond to most of your questions as "Oh , that is a great question", you ask the most though provoking questions, the type of questions a scientist ask, more importantly you are an mazing listener, unlike some other channels, where the interviewer sounds like they know more than than expert guest and constantly interrupt to go to the next comment or question. you also make the best summaries of what was said in simpler terms and make the best "re-phrasing". so comfortable and inspiring to follow your channel.

    • @RainDancerVideo
      @RainDancerVideo ปีที่แล้ว

      😊😊

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It really is and this channel is great. If you're interested at all at the biochemistry behind why things works like they do i can recommend dr. Peter Rogers lectures. He can very plainly explain complex biochemistry to people that haven't been taught. His focus is mainly on fats, mitochondria, cancer, auto immune disease. Low fat whole foods starch based.

  • @kyongchaesmith6706
    @kyongchaesmith6706 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Your channel is my go-to for in depth conversations packed with information from experts who are so incredibly knowledgeable like this one. Thank you for your channel.

    • @southerngirl1408
      @southerngirl1408 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree!! This is one of my favorite channels and I love it more each time I watch 👍👍

    • @davidrobinson1201
      @davidrobinson1201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, thank you Simon, your channel is a blessing to us out here!

  • @yogiyoda
    @yogiyoda ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thanks for including the timestamps in your videos! They are always helpful

  • @WendyWarren-s9z
    @WendyWarren-s9z ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great episode. I love how you don't dumb it down, but respect your audience enough to really dig into these topics. I also enjoy listening to you win your interviewees over with great questions - true of this conversation and also the recent ones with Inigo San Millan and Joel Fuhrman. Please keep up the great work! I listened once through and then again taking notes and rewinding to make sure I got it all. I'm a longtime vegan and to be honest have never understood the whole Omega3/6/ALA/LA/EPA/DHA conversation other than knowing it was important and I've been unclear how much to supplement. I now feel properly educated (and have 6 pages of notes in case I need a refresher). Simon, will you be sharing your Omega-3 Index? I really appreciate his advice to test now for a baseline and then adjust practices. Totally makes more sense to get a baseline based on current eating pattern and whatever supplementation you've been doing.

  • @OsorioT
    @OsorioT ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Another great episode Simon! Thank you for clarifying the confusion out there. You are changing the world. 🌱

  • @UltimateBody
    @UltimateBody ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Super helpful. I just got my results from a full fatty acids profile blood test including Omega 3 Index (Europe: Biopredix). Have been thinking about what to improve, and it is now obvious that increased omega 3 intake, lowered linoleic acid intake, also lowering fish/ chicken intake is the way to go. On the low side for the omega 3 index, high on linoleic acid, very high on ALA (Chia, walnuts), med-high arachidonic acid (Fish/ chicken), high palmitic acid (Fish/ chicken). I did not except this full lipid profile to be so helpful, just did it because I wanted to see my omega 3 index, but after this podcast it is clear that other data also is very important.
    I followed a vegan diet for around 5 years, and added lean chicken breast and fatty fish as salmon (3-4 times per week) 4-5 months ago. I looks like my consumtion pushed palmitic acid and arachidonic acid high as only real main sources of these fatty acids. So, seems to be something to think about and indicates that an algal omega 3 supplement is very useful. Which also lower risk for mercury intake.

    • @Threebridgecastle
      @Threebridgecastle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's chia seeds and flax seeds that are high in ALA, at a fatty acid profile ratio (omega6:omega3) of 1:4. Walnuts and hemp seeds are medium at 4:1.

  • @viveviveka2651
    @viveviveka2651 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Simon, you look so much better in that shirt than in black. Much friendlier looking, more intellectual, studious, and upright. And more trustworthy as well. And more upbeat.

  • @awizenwoman
    @awizenwoman ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Perfect timing! Will share with Mike of High Intensity Health, as he was talking about this very subject among Vegans, trying to persuade us to eat fish again! I told him that my local health food shop has omega oils and algae tablets.

    • @bwild7483
      @bwild7483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And those supplements get the omega and algea from....???

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why just not eat real food? I don't get it.

  • @hamakua484
    @hamakua484 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best informed, objective discussion on this topic I have found. Great job by both.

  • @agbiochemist7269
    @agbiochemist7269 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a very good interview with Dr. Calder. It’s interesting to me, because his insights are relevant to my current work during my PhD on oilseeds and veg oil metabolism and my future post-doc work on cottonseeds.

  • @perettelear6603
    @perettelear6603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview and questions! I had to sit down and concentrate and take a few notes but was very informative.

  • @Suraj-xz8gi
    @Suraj-xz8gi 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please have a conversation with Dr.Paul Mason

  • @tonyosime9380
    @tonyosime9380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8 different ways of categorising fats?:
    1) By saturation
    2) By chain length
    3) By essentiality
    4) By the Number of double bonds
    5) By Position of unsaturation
    6) By source
    7) By Biological function
    8) By combinations of the 7 previous ones
    When we understand this, we get a lot of clarity as different people use different frameworks.

  • @karwask1
    @karwask1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you once again Simon for another really high-quality first-rate interview. You do such an exceptional job of bringing out all the important details and asking amazing questions as all of your guests seem to say this one included 🤗
    The only thing I found that you did not touch upon was whether or not one can get sufficient amounts of DHA and EPA from non-fish dietary sources? So, for example if one deliberately consumed flax seed, chia, walnuts or even flax oil, would one get a sufficient dose? I seem to remember dr. Klaper doing a video, not all that long ago where I believe he said he was unable to get enough EPA and DHA from strictly vegan dietary sources and in the end I believe he concluded that supplementation was necessary.
    I'd love to know more about this if and when in the future or the topic comes up again.
    Thanks again so much for all you do and how will you do it.

    • @TenTempeh
      @TenTempeh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My conclusion is that we can't rely on our conversion of ALA into EPA/DHA, although we could try to reduce our O6 pathway through diminishing O6 consumption in order to enhance our O3 conversion (as both conversion paths compete). But it is hard to say that minimizing O6 is a must, as it is in some way a good fat too. The thing is, in average american it must be benefiting them, but for WFPB eaters, it isn't an issue so I'd rather take algae supplement + keep my O6 consumption just as it is.
      Also some cases like women in their fertile age are more able to manage that conversion. That definitely isn't Dr Klaper's case heheh.

  • @MyOneLive
    @MyOneLive ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fairly a new subscriber, and so far, I am loving all of your interviews! This one was phenomenal! Thank you♡

  • @marie-helenebouget6416
    @marie-helenebouget6416 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for this high quality and very informative interview!

  • @toddostendorf8064
    @toddostendorf8064 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dr Brooke Goldner is healing people a low omega-6 and a high omega-3 diet, with high cruciferous vegetable intake. With any illness that has inflammation or is in need of cellular repair, she is giving a lot of hope and healing.

  • @kalinusa
    @kalinusa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here is a little addition to the discussion on "ratio of EPA/DHA and price of supplements". Recently I found a cheap algal oil with Omega-3 but on the label it mentioned only DHA. I reached out to the customer rep. and asked about EPA. Here is their reply:
    "Our product is DHA only. DHA is known to be the real powerhouse of the Omega-3 family. A recent study from Quebec University found that “Supplementation with high-dose DHA increases the Omega-3 Index more than high-dose EPA”. Also, after being consumed about a third of DHA is converted to EPA."
    So according to their reply their DHA only algal oil is good to go. If that is the case, then their product has a very good price and I should not be looking for the more expensive EPA/DHA mix. MY QUESTIONS IS, what is going on with the DHA >> to >>> EPA conversion that they are mentioning?

  • @azdhan
    @azdhan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! I was on the fence about whether or not to supplement with Omega3 given my genetic predisposition to CVD risk. The only thing holding me back was info I had read that seafood, including salmon, and Omega3 supllements may be much more heavily contaminated given increased pollution of oceans, rivers, and risk. It would have been interesting to have tge good Dr address this re: benefit vs risk when this is taken into account. I imagine if some of these contaminants get into your adipose and body tissues, via life time exposure from consuming Omega 3 supplements or even increased consumption of salmon, mackeral, sardines cannot be a good thing for long term health. And I am not talking about mercury alone here as some of that can be mitigated by consuming more sardines which are generally believed to have lower mercury levels due to their size. Thanks again Simon I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot from them. My absolute favourites on You Tube On a unrealted note, is your essential 8 vitamin/mineral supplement available through and supplier in Canada??

  • @napnap609
    @napnap609 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought the studies have shown more often than not that supplementing with Omega-3 doesn't show the same benefits, or hardly any at all, and that you really need to get it from eating whatever contains the Omega-3.

  • @Lieutenant-Dan
    @Lieutenant-Dan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing that wasn't addressed unless I just missed it, was whether oils are inherently bad? I saw a video with Dr Klaper saying that they're problematic due to the fact that it's refined and all that fat goes straight into your bloodstream. When you eat fats that are intact in a wholefood, it's a slow digestion process as the oils are gradually unlocked from the fibre etc. Is this something to consider?

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oils mean liquid, liquid implies PUFA, PUFAs imply oxydation, oxydation implies damage. Linoleic acid is much much more toxic than arachidonic acid but you won't hear it here. Vegetable oils are harmful.

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imo yes, as dr. John mcDougall and dr. Peter Rogers also say this.

  • @MarcellusWallace-v2o
    @MarcellusWallace-v2o ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Simon - I have been a regular listener for about 3 years. Great podcast, thank you. I appreciate all the great guests and your great interview skills. Favorite guests that come to mind off the top of my head - Chris Gardner, Gil Carvalho, and Drew Harrisberg. I really appreciate the introduction to Gil Carvalho's Nutrition Made Simple channel. Gil is awesome. I really enjoyed your interview on the Rich Roll podcast. Lots of great information.
    Where does one get their Omega 3 levels tested? I think I heard you mention a test for around $40, and I thought I heard you mention on a previous podcast you found a good company in the U.S. to get tested.
    Thank you,
    Paul
    Portsmouth, New Hampshire
    PS - I don't know anything about the AFL, but I did google and watch the kick after the siren! :)

  • @janinelee2196
    @janinelee2196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Simon, this was another great episode. i'm not sure i picked it up in the session so apologies if i have missed it. i'm interested in if there is a gold standard test for checking levels of omega 6:3 ratios and if there is, what the ratios would look like. I'm hearing 4:1 or lower but what is considered a trigger to be harmful to health? thanks 😊

  • @Michelle-fe3vw
    @Michelle-fe3vw ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a super informative podcast- full of so much valuable info❤️

  • @1truemoose
    @1truemoose ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great interview, the best information I've been able to find on lipids. If you interview Prof. Calder again, could you ask if 18:2 and 18:3 omega 6 lipids have different health effects?
    I'd also like to hear Prof. Calder's thoughts on Krill oil.
    Thanks for doing this interview.

  • @bendavid3129
    @bendavid3129 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @TheProofWithSimonHill According to a study published in the Annals of Epidemiology, the prevalence of heart disease among the Amish population is lower than that of the general population. The study found that only 4.4% of Amish adults had heart disease, compared to 12.8% of non-Amish adults....! They eat a lot of saturated fat and not much oils...! So why should saturated fat be avoided...?

    • @myggggeneration
      @myggggeneration ปีที่แล้ว

      The Amish are not sitting all day staring at screens. They move a lot, and do physical work. Does that apply to the general population? No. Oh, and they avoid junk food.

  • @edithh6779
    @edithh6779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for an informative interview. Given how essential DHA/EPA are for fetal/infant development, brain, and cardiovascular health, don't you wonder how our ancestors met their requirements, if they didn't live on an island or on an estuary?

  • @peterz53
    @peterz53 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. High quality.

  • @BrunoSpellanzon
    @BrunoSpellanzon ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks again for another great podcast :)

  • @YaYippieYeah
    @YaYippieYeah ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm interested in supplementation of arachadonic acid and possible negative or positive effects. Would be great if you could discuss this topic in the future. Love your podcast.
    A nutritionist (well known in german speaking countries among vegans, Niko Rittenau, has a master degre, currently doing his PhD) with a conflict of interest (involved in "Watson Nutrition") advocates for supplementation of arachadonic acid for vegans. I dont think arachadonic acid is evil like some folks do and there quite a few anecdotes regarding benefits with strength training.
    He says there a quite a lot limitations with the current available data/science, but recommends a "better safe then sorry" approach. He has quite a long article about it with lots of references, i guess DeepL is your friend if you are interested. (My comment was deleted i guess because of the link, link removed...)
    Btw. he also advocates for Taurin, Glycin and Carnitin supplementation. I'm at least very sceptical about Carnitin, i think the evidence for benefits of Taurin and Glycin seem to be more reasonable. But still an interesting topic to dive into.

  • @RobertWadlow292
    @RobertWadlow292 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode. Thank you sir

  • @ShambaniFarm
    @ShambaniFarm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you saying that having less amount of total LDL but which is more susceptible oxidation is better to having a high LDL but which is less suseptable to oxidation? How? Just how? Oxidised LDL is a worse enemy than having a lot of LDL. LDL's job is to simply carry Cholesterol to various tissues such as the adrenal gland, gonads, muscle, and adipose tissue, where its needed.

  • @TenTempeh
    @TenTempeh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Simon. Another banger! Congrats and thank you so much :)
    I think I understood that the 1g of EPA/DHA is the daily dose recommended. I was wondering if you have explained the proportion recommended (ex 400mg EPA and 600mg DHA) or is it more of a 1g of each?
    I just heard that part where he claims that, for pregnant women and in early life, we should look for specially DHA

    • @matthews9852
      @matthews9852 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also very interested in the answer to this question. My supplement is a 1,800mg fish oil capsule with 720mg EPA and 486mg DHA. Getting 1,000mg of EPA and 1,000mg of DHA is a large number of capsules if the capsules are not super concentrated. Some of the standard fish oil capsules are 1,000mg capsule with only 180mg EPA and 120mg DHA. Another excellent episode Simon. Love this channel and your interviews.

    • @TenTempeh
      @TenTempeh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okey, great. Take care!

    • @markumark1
      @markumark1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheProofWithSimonHill an i remembering correctly that dr. Fuhrman recommends only 250mg, total EPA/DHA? It seems most of your guests have recommended dosages on the higher side. I think it would be great if you could somewhere summarize or condense all of the Omega information provided by the various experts!

  • @jerome4276
    @jerome4276 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doesnt beef fat also contain EPA/DPA?

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, especially grass-fed (3x more and 2x times less LA, with an excellent n6:n3 ratio).

  • @mashacamashaca877
    @mashacamashaca877 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the recommended dose 1g of each EPA&DHA? Or 1g total between the 2 of them?

    • @mashacamashaca877
      @mashacamashaca877 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheProofWithSimonHillI see, the 1200mg Ω3 supplements I bought from Costco have 500mg EPA and 250mg DHA and the dosages suggested range from 1/day up to 4/day (4/day would equal 3g 😳)

  • @talgara69
    @talgara69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @happyvegancouple
    @happyvegancouple ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a fantastic interview on many levels. For years, I have been listening to Dr. Brooke Goldner discuss how inflammatory omega 6 is a problem because people take in so much and so omega 3 is not absorbed as easily due to the enzyme competition. What I still wonder about is the concern that too much DHA supplementation can cause some adverse heart effects. Since the Sherzai's recommend older folks take a large dose (1000-1500 mg) of algae supplementation, I wonder how this advice works for people who take LDL lowering drugs. Are they hurting themselves potentially with taking the large dose of DHA along with EPA? Any clarity you can provide on this question Simon?

  • @Ruben_PhD
    @Ruben_PhD ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this episode.. I would be interested in his and your perspective on Bazinet’s work suggesting that the brain may only require 2-4 mgs daily of DHA.

  • @-johnny-deep-
    @-johnny-deep- ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't watched all of this yet amazing wealth of information yet, but is ALA able to be used in cell membranes directly, or does the body have to convert it to DHA and EPA first?

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is, and it oxydizes just like linoleic acid and people don't want to talk about it.

    • @-johnny-deep-
      @-johnny-deep- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hyperTorless Meaning what? That ALA is more important that people give it credit for, and DHA/EPA get all the publicity instead?

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@-johnny-deep- Basically yes, so if you eat grass-fed animals or some wild fish from time to time you're all good. Also linoleic acid is the most toxic stuff there is in food, much moreso than arachidonic acid.

  • @yoso585
    @yoso585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Throw a can or two f good sardines in a big bed of lettuce with a dribble of olive oil and you’ll be heading in the right direction. Cut all seed oils and your turn will be exponentially better.

  • @gegozi
    @gegozi ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering - what is the fatty acids makeup in newborns cell membranes, in terms of o6/o3/mono/saturated, and can we learn anything from that regarding recommended balance for dietary intake?

    • @HobzyMcRuse
      @HobzyMcRuse ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't compare new-borns with adults for recommended EFA ratios. Babies are basically fat metabolising machines for the first couple of years of life.

  • @daniellebartier1115
    @daniellebartier1115 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure how to reconcile Dr Calder's recommendation regarding 2mg EFA/DHA with the episode with Dr Alo #244 where he virtually says you place yourself at risk of cardio vascular disease if supplement Fish Oil/EHA/DHA (his words 'you only get pretty triglycerides figure') but place yourself at risk of cardio vacscular disease by consuming fish oil, a saturated fat. Simon, can you reconcile the two streams?

    • @TheProofWithSimonHill
      @TheProofWithSimonHill  ปีที่แล้ว

      I share Philip Calders position. Optimise ApoB and supplement with 1-2g of dha/epa per day.

  • @stephaniedesante3433
    @stephaniedesante3433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what ratio of omega 3s to omega 6s is recommended?

  • @justinhale5693
    @justinhale5693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there any research showing how omega-[3/6] deficiency would show up? I suppose some of the symptoms would overlap with zinc and magnesium deficiency.

  • @jakobw135
    @jakobw135 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    P.S. Is it possible to be deficient in Omega 6, and if so, what are the symptoms?

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's impossible because it's litterally in everything. Even apples have 0.5% of LA. In fact there is no human study which proves LA or even ALA is anything essential (not talking about DHA/EPA here).

  • @TheProofWithSimonHill
    @TheProofWithSimonHill  ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Friends,
    I'm keen to find out which part of our chat you found most enlightening. Should you have any further questions on this topic, do please post them beneath this comment. I shall endeavour to include them in our next discussion.

  • @AlanDeane-o1f
    @AlanDeane-o1f ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you want to check your triglyceride to HDL ratio

  • @saifalarabi4491
    @saifalarabi4491 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was personally fascinated by effects of fish on triglycerides!
    I took a trip in a tropical island and I was fishing and eating fish almost daily, just like on an all you can eat mode, I ate a lot of fish and squids. My triglycerides usually are above 250 mg/dl, but when I checked my levels when I came back my triglycerides were 54 mg/dl but with elevated LDL(first time in my life). So I made decision that I will make fish an important component of my diet for my entire life if I can but also with losing 15-20 kg and maybe use statins to target below 50 LDL.

    • @oliviabaklaton4552
      @oliviabaklaton4552 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caution with statins!
      First do some research in yt.
      F.e.
      Dr. Sten Ekberg statins

    • @saifalarabi4491
      @saifalarabi4491 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@panes840 why should I do this? I enjoy eating fresh fish, more delicious and more beneficial. And in case I take a supplement I will take fish omega 3s triglycerides. However, I believe fish are more beneficial than omega 3 supplements. Catching fish by itself feels good.

    • @HobzyMcRuse
      @HobzyMcRuse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LDL is only bad if you have metabolic issues or are insulin resistant. Reduce processed carbs bread/pasta/seed oils/sugars and you won't need a statin.

  • @-bld-
    @-bld- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zero mention of contaminants in supplements or fish, like mercury etc. Unless I missed it...

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zero mention of the fact that the fish oil PUFAs oxydize before you even consume them...

  • @AlanDeane-o1f
    @AlanDeane-o1f ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the information please do more cross-referencing on keto or carnivore. Summary statements made do not have the same effect. When you’re on these type of diets/ways of lifestyle I’ve heard countless studies on how keto Or carnivore have completely changed on recovery from lifting high sports. Athletes are now doing a lot of carnivore just a theory I’ve been doing this for three years now I feel amazing and I have a lot of blood tests/markers.

  • @nwobob
    @nwobob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I put mine in the freezer the day I come home. Especially for my winter months when in a tropical climate.

    • @robertthompson5501
      @robertthompson5501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me. Fish oil to freezer. Always buy high quality. Prefer a can of Sardinrs. 🏋🏻

  • @DannaQuintana
    @DannaQuintana ปีที่แล้ว

    Great conversation as always but particularly because I stay confused over omega 3 as my LDL is always around 100 while my Triglycerides are around 35, APoB is 74 and I have one copy of APoE4 so I tend to geek out on brain and cardiac health. Professor Calder recommends 1g but is that total DHA/EPA or 1g each?

    • @bobleblanc8082
      @bobleblanc8082 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He said total of EPA and DHA combined!

  • @zhilahaghbin4766
    @zhilahaghbin4766 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonder in those who had AF as SE of EPA/DHA at high dose, if they had pre-existing heart disease, or hx of arrythmia or AF, or what was their alcohol consumption, if they controlled for that in Study of ? Reduce it

  • @leniolesch896
    @leniolesch896 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, what a masterclass. This conversation brings so much light to this complex topic. Everything Prof Calder said supports my nutrition decision regarding Omega 3 intake. Do you have any website where one could make guest suggestions @TheProofWithSimonHill? I’m reading Up to Speed by Christine Yu at the moment. It’s a book about (the lack of) women in exercise research. I came across two nutritional scientists: Louise Burke from ACU in Australia and Anthony Hackney from University of North Carolina. I’d love learning more about specific recommendations for women when it comes to exercise and nutrition.

  • @marjon888
    @marjon888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the basis for demonizing saturated fats?

    • @bendavid3129
      @bendavid3129 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@TheProofWithSimonHill According to a study published in the Annals of Epidemiology, the prevalence of heart disease among the Amish population is lower than that of the general population. The study found that only 4.4% of Amish adults had heart disease, compared to 12.8% of non-Amish adults....! They eat a lot of saturated fat and not much oils...! Sometimes a simple reality check can be helpful and save a lot of confusion!

    • @HobzyMcRuse
      @HobzyMcRuse ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't argue with vegans... Saturated fat has been our primary fat source for over a million years until about 100 years ago. CVD was practically unheard of in western medicine until last century: Industrial seed oils, mass produced refined carbs and sugar. @@bendavid3129

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is litterally no basis. The basis was Ancel Keys but he turned out to be a complete fraud by ignoring clear evidence on the benefits of SFA, notably french people diet. The story is well-documented by now.
      Even large studies like the Minnoseta experiment and the Lyon Diet Study consistently show improvement in health outcomes when there is less PUFAs and more SFA.

  • @woofinu
    @woofinu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope I am not misunderstanding, but it seems to me that his position on Omega 6 is different from what Dr. Bill Harris said, at least in degree. That's one thing that I am unclear about.

  • @S7ilgar
    @S7ilgar ปีที่แล้ว

    To summarize:
    - omega3 is very important for health
    - omega6 compete with omega3 to be assimilated: because we eat too much omega6, we need to decrease o6 and increase o3 by eating more fatty fish, supplements and olive/canola(rapseed) oil
    - too much omega6 trigger unnecessary, unhealthy inflammation
    A lot of detail but in the bigger picture, I haven't learnt anything new. I'm surprised Simon talking about distinguishing bad fat from good fats because in my country, there's virtually no young adult who woudn't know that there are good fats and bad fats. I thought that any developped country had their population aware of what are saturated fats and omega3. It's even mandatory to be displayed on food labels.

    • @robertthompson5501
      @robertthompson5501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sardines are low on food chain and clean. I prefer sardines from Europe not Asia. Kimh Oscar!

  • @bradstell2146
    @bradstell2146 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can all plant-based eaters convert ALA to EPA and DHA optimally for healthy brain aging?

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Basically no. And even for optimal conversion you need SFAs.
      PMID: 16188209
      PMID: 9637947
      "The use of ALA labelled with radioisotopes suggested that with a background diet high in saturated fat conversion to long-chain metabolites is approximately 6% for EPA and 3.8% for DHA. With a diet rich in n-6 PUFA, conversion is reduced by 40 to 50%. "
      Draw your own conclusion (hint: more seed oils => bad outcomes).

  • @worldnomad2301
    @worldnomad2301 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 gram per day of EPA/DHA as a total?

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a supplement, but I take more like a gram a week, not a day, in conjunction with a lower overall fat diet (< 20% of calories).

    • @StephenMarkTurner
      @StephenMarkTurner ปีที่แล้ว

      No, just a reasonably educated guess. @@TheProofWithSimonHill

  • @jakobw135
    @jakobw135 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you don't consume highly processed commercial or industrial foods that are filled with omega-6, but only eat maybe a capful of omega-6 canola oil with some stir fried food. Is that considered problematic?

    • @inthevortex-de1rh
      @inthevortex-de1rh ปีที่แล้ว

      Canola oil is poison. Throw it away ASAP

    • @jakobw135
      @jakobw135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MB10097 Thanks for that 👍

    • @k.h.6991
      @k.h.6991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What he says is that we should increase DHA and EPA consumption, from algae or vegan pills. Decreasing omega-6 intake isn't the strategy he favours.

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@k.h.6991He clearly advocates for reduction of linoleic acid intake, meaning less seed oils, which is everywhere now thanks to modern food industrialization, eg at 44:53

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're consuming any meat or (non-grass-fed) dairy or olive oil or fatty vegetables like avocado or even just oatmeal, you're already getting enough linoleic acid to avoid deficiency. And if you're using seed oils, you're pretty much guaranteed to overconsume it. The only way to get deficient in it is to eat some crazy carb monodiet like potato diet or honey diet.

  • @mrbigsdaddy
    @mrbigsdaddy ปีที่แล้ว

    I have only listen to a few minutes, but I’m gonna go ahead and shout out to Tucker Goodrich.

  • @tnvol5331
    @tnvol5331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do we get enough healthy fats from vegetables and starches alone.

    • @GreenishSloth
      @GreenishSloth ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes.

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. There is no "healthy fat" in vegetable.
      PUFAs oxydize, that's why all plant oil contain vitamin E (which is meant to prevent oxydation) and ALA (plant omega-3) conversion to DHA/EPA (animal omega-3) is very poor when no saturated fats are present. You also miss essential nutrients in animal fat (K2, D, A, etc.). So definitely no.

    • @tnvol5331
      @tnvol5331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hyperTorless I have seen good evidence to the contrary. Not proof just evidence.

  • @Suraj-xz8gi
    @Suraj-xz8gi 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Genetic modification,algae? Better lake,river,sea?🌵

  • @FabAgainOver50
    @FabAgainOver50 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree on the tribalism aspect. I wish it would end.
    But as its driven by deliberate confusion sown by the big money interests of the food industries, i cant see that happening soon.
    I'm a happy LMHR who has categorically refused statins.
    Dr was a bit shocked.
    I was shocked at his lack of curiosity or willingness to listen to my reasons.
    He just glazed over - he's probably too busy with metabolically ill people to even think about the root causes.
    😢
    I am Keto OMAD - all bloods are fab with high LDL.
    Same BP as 40 yrs ago- 110/70.
    Triglyc to HDL- 0.8 😊

  • @GreenishSloth
    @GreenishSloth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DHA increases LDL cholesterol by 15-20 percent. Not insignificant! Compared to this increase the particle sizes don't matter much.

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      In what dosage and in which population?

    • @GreenishSloth
      @GreenishSloth หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlexV-jh7ul In healthy, non-obese subjects, and it's largely dose-dependent.

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreenishSloth Can you specify the study where this was found?

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      From a recent systematic review (Choi et al 2024): EPA and DHA both lower triglyceride levels, with DHA most likely having a slightly greater effect. Furthermore, both EPA and DHA increase high density lipoprotein (HDL) 2 cholesterol, which is cardioprotective, with the increase being greater with DHA. DHA appears to increase low density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol; however, DHA also increases LDL particle size, which would render LDL less atherogenic. DHA seems more effective than EPA in decreasing heart rate and blood pressure. Both EPA and DHA alter platelet function decreasing thrombogenicity, although they may have different actions on platelets. Both EPA and DHA decrease F2-isoprostanes, interpreted as a reduction in oxidative stress. They both decrease inflammatory gene expression and promote an anti-inflammatory oxylipin profile. These are all favorable effects with regard to cardiovascular disease risk

    • @GreenishSloth
      @GreenishSloth หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlexV-jh7ul There is more than one, but here is an example: Grimsgaard S, Bønaa KH, Hansen JB, Nordøy A. (1997) Lipids, 32(10), 1123-1129
      'DHA supplementation led to a rise in LDL-cholesterol levels among healthy subjects'

  • @brendafosmire6519
    @brendafosmire6519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent. Again we hear how nuanced and multi factorial human nutrition is.
    And human health is very individual
    I love the over fishing question because I have wondered about this.
    As a plant based eater I worry about getting enough omega 3 but I can’t face eating fish. So I eat tons of flax. But does flax intake do the trick.
    On the omega 3 need- what about when beef is only grass fed which increases the meat omega 3 level while lowering omega 6 in the meat? Could that help meat eaters not need so much fatty fish - which is not sustainable?

  • @pookiecatblue
    @pookiecatblue ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do farmed fish have as much omega 3 as wild caught?

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are specifically fed omega-3 rich feeds (some plant-based, some marine). That said, they also contain much more linoleic acid than wild-caught, so they're still less beneficial overall.

  • @saifalarabi4491
    @saifalarabi4491 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the point of elevation in LDL is not that clear. Not enough to say bigger LDL can't get in the wall of blood vessels. There has to be a better explanation.

  • @k.h.6991
    @k.h.6991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting that the unsaturated fat in meat is also unhealthy.

    • @hyperTorless
      @hyperTorless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not nearly as unhealthy as linoleic acid from seed oils, which is *at least* 7 times more prone to create toxic byproducts in lipoproteins and tissue.

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only grain-fed poultry and pork (which, to be fair, is most of poultry and pork) has a high linoleic acid content. Grain-fed beef has much less of it, and grass-fed beef (and lamb!) has even less still.

  • @kc32999
    @kc32999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this guy the voice of Korg from the Marvel movie Thor Ragnarok?

  • @robertthompson5501
    @robertthompson5501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great intel led by a soyboy. I am a Egghead enjoying herring now. Sardines daily, now I know why. 🏋‍♂️

  • @dinomiles7999
    @dinomiles7999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bryan Johnson Blueprint, Ai will soon take the guess work out of it and all gurus and snake oil salesmen will soon be gone. Don't die, see you in 2500.

  • @kennethessenwanger268
    @kennethessenwanger268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In conclusion then: grass fed beef and fish is one way to keep omega 3 up and avoid polyunsaturated oils which can be easily oxidized.

  • @Ian-io3yt
    @Ian-io3yt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content Simon, but the word is "CUN - SOOM" not "CUN - SHOOM"

  • @AlanDeane-o1f
    @AlanDeane-o1f ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you still chasing LDL cholesterol

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Canola is controversial mainly because of battling business interests.

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it's controversial because it's naturally toxic, and the toxin can only be removed through a complicated industrial refinement process (that uses additional toxic chemicals, even though those are supposedly not traceable in the final product). So it's an inherently highly processed food that cannot possibly have an unprocessed version. Which may or may not be a problem, of course, but some people don't like it.

  • @robertstambulovski
    @robertstambulovski 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't eat that farmed salmon ' stressed out fish living in closed cages ' I'm a house painter and when I do a interior job I notice in the kitchen overprocecced food ' white breads heavily sprayed fruit and vegetables ' farmed salmon ' seed oils junk cereals ' on wonder people get sick ' but I guess you can't put it down to one single thing ' but a combination of things '

  • @pwcrabb5766
    @pwcrabb5766 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much better if this guest were to carefully enunciate.

  • @fugitivetattoo
    @fugitivetattoo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Id your

  • @gerrysecure5874
    @gerrysecure5874 ปีที่แล้ว

    These nutrition talks go way too far into detail. There is no way to reasonably track all details and substances. Just eat diverse, mostly natural don't go extreme. Meat, fish, vegetables, fruit some grains nuts and occasuonally stay hungry and you are fine.

  • @GlobalDrifter1000
    @GlobalDrifter1000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hair is silly looking.

  • @ChrisTopher-vs9zz
    @ChrisTopher-vs9zz ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a terrible commentator. You should have just used omega-3 and omega-6 in the conversation instead of the technical terms. It made it very hard for a novice which is probably your entire audience to follow this conversation

    • @nwobob
      @nwobob ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In my space the jargon he used is actually part of our common daily conversation. And using it is what made the presentation useful. To each their own.

    • @lindac6147
      @lindac6147 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this excellent podcast . Simon you are a fantastic listener and communicator . The summaries you do are super helpful and require a lot of skill and knowledge to pull off . Congratulations to you ! Your the best in this space by a mile ⭐️⭐️

    • @AlexV-jh7ul
      @AlexV-jh7ul หลายเดือนก่อน

      The differences between linoleic and arachidonic acids (as well as EPA, DHA and ALA omega-3 acids) are an important part of the conversation