Palworld did not "learn the hard way", the devs had nothing to do with Pokemon being modded into their game, It's more the fans that got reminded not to mess with the Pokemon company.
Former Pixelmon contributor here! The cancellation statement in 2017 was fake, it was initially cancelled due to heavy toxicity within the team... ironic considering the absolute crapshow Pixelmon is now Pixelmon had a bunch of crap happening internally that got called out, as well as the mod making changes nobody liked and doubled down, thus leading to the rapid downfall of the mod, even before Cobblemon came out And let's not forget stealing models from Cobblemon (though that's a more recent thing)
Dramas aside, pixelmon is currently so broken it's impossible to play it along with any other mod. Shit's even worse than optifine in that regard. That and the creepy 3D models are the main reasons I even discovered Cobblemon, the superior pokemon mod.
"Why did Nintendo take so long to send this cease-and-desist", _Garry's Mod fans continued to ask themselves in spite of Garry's claims that the DMCA was "not a copyright troll" while simultaniously refusing to actually show the letter, AND Nintendo refusing to confirm-or-deny that they had sent it..._
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I think, the main thing that makes people like Cobblemon more than Pixelmon, is the models, like, idk, they look nice and new, they don't look out of place And it's the argument my friends told me to show me that it was a good mod
cobblemon allows for mobs to spawn and has idle animations but is literally nothing more than a ripoff of the orignal mod "pokemon in minecraft" which was later rebranded to pixelmon when they came back in 2014
I'm baffled after not seeing one single comment about Pokecube. Very old mod, not as popular but not just any mod you find in a street. It even updated faster than Pixelmon at some point (Megas got added here way earlier than on Pixelmon). Pokecube was the Cobblemon of 10 years ago (Still got some updates to recent versions though).
@@t-rexfan650 Pixelmon aint the big guy anymore either But they were both very important at some point This whole "Let's make a Pokemon mod but with Minecraft's style" thing was a Pokecube thing first and a Cobblemon thing second Pixelmon was still the first one iirc but yea
I have to point out that when you were talking about pixelmon you showed footage of cobblemon several times lol (one I caught going back is on timestamp 11:40 )
@@andrewcotter2036 yeah so am i go to youtube and go look up poetplay pokemon then you will see how the og pixelmon looked like and played like and its the exact same as cobblemon
@@bakatemplargaming2430 exactly, used to be. not anymore. pixelmon is just a facade of a dead idea, whereas cobblemon is the revival of that idea, and making it better.
I personally started playing Cobblemon because I literally cannot play anything higher than 1.18 on forge, and cobblemon just happens to have a fabric version, and then, I just got hooked on cobblemons more survival focused gameplay and couldn't come back to pixelmon even if I could play it, can't wait for them to release the NPCs eventually, because would be very cool to see Cobblemon adventure maps pop up like what happened with Pixelmon
[Pocket Pair] was _not involved_ with the pokemon mod for Palworld, as proven by the fact that they are _completely_ untouched by [The Pokemon Company], [GameFreak], and [Nintendo].
"its the nature of time that the old ways must give in its the nature of time that the new ways come in sin when the new meets the old it always ends the ancient ways and as history told the old ways go out in a blaze"
@Lime_light24 yea and its literally based off pixelmons first release voxel based mons idle animations more survival focused able to kill mons for loot drops
@Lime_light24 pixelmon was released in 2011 under the name pokemon in minecraft it took them a year to shut it down and then a year after that it came back under the moniker pixelmon
@Lime_light24 cobblemon came out in 2020 9 years after the original and aspires to be in the same space as the original mod not its updates but the original 2011 release
Jesus christ the writing in this video is phenomenal. And that voice.....ahhh it reminds me of early 2000's cartoon narators with the "previously on" line
Cobblemon is safe cuz it's not pokemon see u said that pixelmon was trying to make it so u could play the pokemon games in Minecraft whilst cobblemon is surviving so Nintendo won't target it cuz it's not copyright
To me, Pixelmon got TOO competitive. I mean, even the AI trainers use highly competitive strategies to win. Not only that, from what I remember, they will always be a few levels higher than you, unless you get to level 100 I think. But anyway, I swear I remember I fought a gym leader on a server who at first had level 50 pokemon. I'm like, "Ok. No way I'm winning this with my mid 40's team. I'll train some more." Then suddenly, that same gym leader's team is suddenly level 58. Like what?!
16:59 Actually that was not an official Palworld mod. If anything, Nintendo is actively monitoring Palworld for anything they can legally target. Hence the speedy takedowns of the mods. Which also confirms... The Pocket Pair team did NOT steal any models or designs from pokemon. If they did... Nintendo would have shut them down with a C&D months ago. The designs were inspired at best, just like what Nintendo did with Pokemon taking inspiration from Dragon Quest.
"We can't expect a large audience to keep playing the same game forever" THEN WHY THE HELL IS MINECRAFT STILL NUMBER 1 SOLD GAME EVER?! WHY ARE THERE STILL MINECRAFT VIDEOS TODAY, honestly lol Literally watching a minecraft video where minecraft is from 2011
Because the minecraft experience is extremely versatile via mods. The mods keep changing it up and keeps it fun. Also it still has a large robust community which is essential to the survival of any MMO
@@StygianIkazuchi XD this shit is too funny please go look at the original release of the mod I'm done with you and yalls constant dick sucking of a mod that is a rippoff
Nintendo needs to chill the f out before people get annoyed enough to cancel them completely 😂 im sure it will happen eventually if they keep going down this relentless law suit train
@@notsansutplays8178 it's not tho, his video on the history of the mob vote has his own comment, on the Logdotzip account mind you, pinned by this channel.
Hate to be that guy but I feel like this should be repeated and clarified everytime we can. Nintendo is actually 🤓👆 NOT targetting this Minecraft mod nor anything related to the Pokémon franchise since it is only parcially their property and their participation in the franchise is only that of publishing the games, aka ensuring this are exclusive to their consoles and making publicity about them. Anything else, anything that has to do with the developement of the games or the legal actions related to them such as closing fan projects are duties of Game Freak and The Pokémon Company respectively. I know Nintendo DOES do pretty bad things but they aren't even close to being as bad as The Pokémon Company with fan content and their actual games are much better (generally at least). I don't think is correct to put these 2 in the same bundle as you might negatively impact the judgement of many people and because of this they could loose on great experiences and pieces of art, for example Nintendo is pretty much the only big game company that is not having massive layoffs as off recently for no reason and the official Super Mario Brothers DLC for Minecraft Bedrock is pretty cool. On the other hand there is what's shown in this video and Pokémon games (part of the highest growsing franchise of all time) are about 8 years behind current technology standards. So PLEASE, stop saying that Nintendo is suing Pokémon fan content, it's just not true.
@@antro788 Sorry bro, dind't know there where nintendo investors watching pixelmon videos with 10k views. Nintendo also owns an unkwon amount of the Pokémon IP and that doesn't automatically mean they are actively developing it's products, 'cause I'd say it's pretty clear if that was true mainline Pokémon games would be MUCH better.
The biggest factor for me picking Cobblemon over Pixelmon is the models. Pixelmon seemingly just uses the models and textures from the Pokemon games, which quite frankly, looks ugly as hell in Minecraft. Cobblemon on the other hand is hand crafting voxel models that fit with Minecraft AND have unique lovingly made animations. Even if progress is slow, I'm all on board with Cobblemon as THE definitive Minecraft Pokemon experience.
Pixelmon seems to share a fate like Optifine - was once a wonderful mod played by everyone - a new competetor emerges that's better than the original - the originals now look like crap
Still playing obscuros every once in a while, great server. Cobblemon doesn't have the mechanics to be longterm gambling simulator but holy shit the bugs and weird shit, the ultraspace doesn't even LOOK like what it should it's so lazy.
ultraspace dimensions are not base cobblemon pretty sure, any bugs with a new dimension are side mods/add ons or server-based! not cobblemon's fault :"3
May be most kids dream ro have open wirkd pokemon bur wasnt ever mine necee wanted that and the switch version of the pokemon games have proven thar was and srill is a bad idea.
Stop giving Dream credit for bringing Minecraft back; That groomer only got popular BECAUSE PewDiePie started his let's play and refused to give out his seed.
Palworld did not "learn the hard way", the devs had nothing to do with Pokemon being modded into their game, It's more the fans that got reminded not to mess with the Pokemon company.
This!
And pokemon didn't create monster catching
They could never get Digimon so I don't see why they'd try their luck with Palworld
@@dennisbeaman958I think the main concern was that some Pals looked a little too similar to some Pokemon
Are people STILL asshurt at palworld? Pokemon fans are so damn fragile cause they think pokemon "owns" the concept of monster taming
Former Pixelmon contributor here!
The cancellation statement in 2017 was fake, it was initially cancelled due to heavy toxicity within the team... ironic considering the absolute crapshow Pixelmon is now
Pixelmon had a bunch of crap happening internally that got called out, as well as the mod making changes nobody liked and doubled down, thus leading to the rapid downfall of the mod, even before Cobblemon came out
And let's not forget stealing models from Cobblemon (though that's a more recent thing)
hold on...? What happened with Pixelmon now? Is it still being updated and if so which mod would ya recommend I use pixelmon or cobblemon?
@@jayden_the_skeleton8729pix
@@jayden_the_skeleton8729 cobblemon. always cobblemon
Dramas aside, pixelmon is currently so broken it's impossible to play it along with any other mod. Shit's even worse than optifine in that regard. That and the creepy 3D models are the main reasons I even discovered Cobblemon, the superior pokemon mod.
@@jayden_the_skeleton8729 cobblemon, pixelmon gets boring quick
Nintendo should make their own Pokémon mod for Minecraft, but if they did it would probably be only playable on switch
or only one the marketplace unfortunately
For only 3 months before being taken offline permanently
Just play Cobblemon
Ah yes release the mod where minecraft sucks at performance.
"Why did Nintendo take so long to send this cease-and-desist", _Garry's Mod fans continued to ask themselves in spite of Garry's claims that the DMCA was "not a copyright troll" while simultaniously refusing to actually show the letter, AND Nintendo refusing to confirm-or-deny that they had sent it..._
I think, the main thing that makes people like Cobblemon more than Pixelmon, is the models, like, idk, they look nice and new, they don't look out of place
And it's the argument my friends told me to show me that it was a good mod
cobblemon allows for mobs to spawn and has idle animations but is literally nothing more than a ripoff of the orignal mod "pokemon in minecraft" which was later rebranded to pixelmon when they came back in 2014
@@bakatemplargaming2430..how exactly is it a ripoff?
@@saltygibus5746 some people just don't like change.
@@StygianIkazuchi I suppose...pretty petty though.
And they plan for base game minecraft aspects not being overwritten.
Using pokemon to battle the wither for example.
Wow I forgot this was logdotzip and got whiplash from the voice lmao
He sounds so different since the last time I've heard him. :o
i did not know it was logdotzip and still suffered.
Is genuinely confused why he used logdotzip’s skin and his voice really has changed since I last watched him
Same
I’m pretty sure it’s an ai voice.
16:58 What are you talking about that mod was made by a fan not Palworld
Palworld are still responsible for it because it's their game, the same thing happened with Gmod.
@@TheMegaPilleNot really, as Palworld had no way of knowing what fans would try to make.
@@TheMegaPille That's like saying [Micropenis](tm) is responsible for anything positive that 4chan does.
@@TheMegaPille it's the 'fan' who locked the mod behind their Patreon, thus monetizing it
@@TheMegaPille No they aren`t?
This video feels like a 17 minute cobblemon commercial
I'm baffled after not seeing one single comment about Pokecube. Very old mod, not as popular but not just any mod you find in a street. It even updated faster than Pixelmon at some point (Megas got added here way earlier than on Pixelmon).
Pokecube was the Cobblemon of 10 years ago (Still got some updates to recent versions though).
Pokecube died people neglect it and it's just bad now
@@t-rexfan650 Pixelmon aint the big guy anymore either
But they were both very important at some point
This whole "Let's make a Pokemon mod but with Minecraft's style" thing was a Pokecube thing first and a Cobblemon thing second
Pixelmon was still the first one iirc but yea
I have to point out that when you were talking about pixelmon you showed footage of cobblemon several times lol (one I caught going back is on timestamp 11:40 )
11:40 That's not Pixelmon, Pixelmon Reforged or Pixelmon Generations. That's Cobblemon.
See, those Damn Nintendo Lawsuits are Exactly why I like Sega alot More
Cobblemon is exactly what I always wanted Pixelmon to be.
no its what pixelmon used to be
@@bakatemplargaming2430 I'm not just talking about the art style. I'm talking about the gameplay loop.
@@andrewcotter2036 yeah so am i go to youtube and go look up poetplay pokemon then you will see how the og pixelmon looked like and played like and its the exact same as cobblemon
@@bakatemplargaming2430 exactly, used to be. not anymore. pixelmon is just a facade of a dead idea, whereas cobblemon is the revival of that idea, and making it better.
I personally started playing Cobblemon because I literally cannot play anything higher than 1.18 on forge, and cobblemon just happens to have a fabric version, and then, I just got hooked on cobblemons more survival focused gameplay and couldn't come back to pixelmon even if I could play it, can't wait for them to release the NPCs eventually, because would be very cool to see Cobblemon adventure maps pop up like what happened with Pixelmon
Seriously nintendo just give up on trying to stop pixelmon/cobblemon
[Pocket Pair] was _not involved_ with the pokemon mod for Palworld, as proven by the fact that they are _completely_ untouched by [The Pokemon Company], [GameFreak], and [Nintendo].
I remember watching logdotzip when woodland mansions came out… Easy sub
why DOESN'T japan have fair use? that's the correct answer
Best question in these comments
I was jumpscared by Tyler's voice ngl, did not expect logdotzip narrating this lol
it’s an ai voice… they are just impersonating him :/
@@notsansutplays8178nope
Pokecube: I just don't exist
As long as they dont target cobblemon...we will be good
Nintendo needs to chill, I don't think even Mr Scrooge would do something this petty.
Ssundee made this so cool. I enjoyed it from a lot of other people but man. I hope to experience this.
"its the nature of time that the old ways must give in
its the nature of time that the new ways come in sin
when the new meets the old it always ends the ancient ways
and as history told the old ways go out in a blaze"
A new mod named cobblemon is basically pixelmon but much better integrated into minecraft and much less openly pokemon
no its just a ripoff of the og mod pokemon in minecraft
@Lime_light24 go look at pokemon in minecraft aka pixelmon the original release its the same as cobblemon
@Lime_light24 yea and its literally based off pixelmons first release voxel based mons idle animations more survival focused able to kill mons for loot drops
@Lime_light24 pixelmon was released in 2011 under the name pokemon in minecraft it took them a year to shut it down and then a year after that it came back under the moniker pixelmon
@Lime_light24 cobblemon came out in 2020 9 years after the original and aspires to be in the same space as the original mod not its updates but the original 2011 release
Jesus christ the writing in this video is phenomenal. And that voice.....ahhh it reminds me of early 2000's cartoon narators with the "previously on" line
It’s a guy named Tyler who owns a channel called Logdotzip
Ain't no way he used Jortstorm in the intro
I always liked the Digimon mod and wish it got the love and care that Pixelmon did
13:20
Now if only people would come to this realization about actual pokemon
Cobblemon is safe cuz it's not pokemon see u said that pixelmon was trying to make it so u could play the pokemon games in Minecraft whilst cobblemon is surviving so Nintendo won't target it cuz it's not copyright
YOOOOOO YOU USED JORTSTORM
To me, Pixelmon got TOO competitive. I mean, even the AI trainers use highly competitive strategies to win. Not only that, from what I remember, they will always be a few levels higher than you, unless you get to level 100 I think.
But anyway, I swear I remember I fought a gym leader on a server who at first had level 50 pokemon. I'm like, "Ok. No way I'm winning this with my mid 40's team. I'll train some more." Then suddenly, that same gym leader's team is suddenly level 58. Like what?!
16:59 Actually that was not an official Palworld mod.
If anything, Nintendo is actively monitoring Palworld for anything they can legally target. Hence the speedy takedowns of the mods.
Which also confirms... The Pocket Pair team did NOT steal any models or designs from pokemon. If they did... Nintendo would have shut them down with a C&D months ago.
The designs were inspired at best, just like what Nintendo did with Pokemon taking inspiration from Dragon Quest.
Ye no I should probably take down a Mario add on that I made for PE before Nintendo comes for me.
I never like non cube pokemons in Minecraft
"We can't expect a large audience to keep playing the same game forever"
THEN WHY THE HELL IS MINECRAFT STILL NUMBER 1 SOLD GAME EVER?! WHY ARE THERE STILL MINECRAFT VIDEOS TODAY, honestly lol
Literally watching a minecraft video where minecraft is from 2011
Because the minecraft experience is extremely versatile via mods. The mods keep changing it up and keeps it fun. Also it still has a large robust community which is essential to the survival of any MMO
@@TheZombiesAreComing well if the rumor is true that mojang is making 1.22 unmoddable I guess it'll lose some versatility
i wish nintendo would just buy pixelmon lol, but we all know they would never distribute content for free
Yall know a good non p2w pixelmon servers for both pixelmon Reforged/Cobblemon?
anubis mc has some stuff you can pay for but not that much most of everything is earnable via events and the like
6:25 those are clips from cobblemon
Nintendo needs to stop being biased and approve something Pokémon Themed for once.
That will never happen. Look into their history and you'll see they've always been paranoid, copyright tyrants, and conservative in negative ways
cobblemon > pixelmon
Cobblemon W
yall have to be new to modding this mod is a ripoff of the og mod
@@bakatemplargaming2430an updated and upgraded version of the og version*
@@bakatemplargaming2430 I've been playing modded Minecraft since forge was new. You're acting like a toddler.
@@StygianIkazuchi XD this shit is too funny please go look at the original release of the mod I'm done with you and yalls constant dick sucking of a mod that is a rippoff
@@bakatemplargaming2430 shut up no life pixalmon bad
Nintendo is the stupidest company I have ever seen. I cannot believe I threw money at them.
Nintendo needs to chill the f out before people get annoyed enough to cancel them completely 😂 im sure it will happen eventually if they keep going down this relentless law suit train
nintendo never DMCAed pixelmon.
Acting like Pixelmon Reforged is gonna be dead, It's still going on strong, do not worry.
whats the video at 3:26
Honestly good Nintendo dose have the right sadly
The comments on this video are so toxic 😭
LogDotZip, is that you?
It’s an AI voice.
@@notsansutplays8178 oh.
@@notsansutplays8178 it's not tho, his video on the history of the mob vote has his own comment, on the Logdotzip account mind you, pinned by this channel.
@@thegunfighters07it’s not
cobblemons better, ngl
the script seems a little fishy...i feel like its been made by AI
Nope… it’s Logdotzip
Hate to be that guy but I feel like this should be repeated and clarified everytime we can. Nintendo is actually 🤓👆 NOT targetting this Minecraft mod nor anything related to the Pokémon franchise since it is only parcially their property and their participation in the franchise is only that of publishing the games, aka ensuring this are exclusive to their consoles and making publicity about them. Anything else, anything that has to do with the developement of the games or the legal actions related to them such as closing fan projects are duties of Game Freak and The Pokémon Company respectively. I know Nintendo DOES do pretty bad things but they aren't even close to being as bad as The Pokémon Company with fan content and their actual games are much better (generally at least). I don't think is correct to put these 2 in the same bundle as you might negatively impact the judgement of many people and because of this they could loose on great experiences and pieces of art, for example Nintendo is pretty much the only big game company that is not having massive layoffs as off recently for no reason and the official Super Mario Brothers DLC for Minecraft Bedrock is pretty cool. On the other hand there is what's shown in this video and Pokémon games (part of the highest growsing franchise of all time) are about 8 years behind current technology standards. So PLEASE, stop saying that Nintendo is suing Pokémon fan content, it's just not true.
Nintendo owns over 50% of Pokémon company
@@antro788 Sorry bro, dind't know there where nintendo investors watching pixelmon videos with 10k views. Nintendo also owns an unkwon amount of the Pokémon IP and that doesn't automatically mean they are actively developing it's products, 'cause I'd say it's pretty clear if that was true mainline Pokémon games would be MUCH better.
@@ALBERGALARGA_🫃
im a pokemon fan but i don't play minecraft 😅
The biggest factor for me picking Cobblemon over Pixelmon is the models.
Pixelmon seemingly just uses the models and textures from the Pokemon games, which quite frankly, looks ugly as hell in Minecraft. Cobblemon on the other hand is hand crafting voxel models that fit with Minecraft AND have unique lovingly made animations. Even if progress is slow, I'm all on board with Cobblemon as THE definitive Minecraft Pokemon experience.
Only 600 views!!! 🗣
Pixelmon seems to share a fate like Optifine
- was once a wonderful mod played by everyone
- a new competetor emerges that's better than the original
- the originals now look like crap
I prefer Cobblemon
Cobblemon is better
no its just the og mod but worse
@@bakatemplargaming2430 nah its the og mod but updated and upgraded
In 2:26 I saw a cross
Duck your copyright laws that's all I a gotta say
Only 3 comments? Dang!
We get it, you've been sponsored by Cobblemon.
Why do they have right rather than losing them? Oh, you dont have the entire legal system this case is founded on? Guess your not sueing.
Still playing obscuros every once in a while, great server. Cobblemon doesn't have the mechanics to be longterm gambling simulator but holy shit the bugs and weird shit, the ultraspace doesn't even LOOK like what it should it's so lazy.
ultraspace dimensions are not base cobblemon pretty sure, any bugs with a new dimension are side mods/add ons or server-based! not cobblemon's fault :"3
@@slimeskelly1027 I was talking about pixelmon and how lazy it is.
May be most kids dream ro have open wirkd pokemon bur wasnt ever mine necee wanted that and the switch version of the pokemon games have proven thar was and srill is a bad idea.
The mistakes already start with the title. Nintendo has nothing to do with the Pixelmon takedowns, that's all TPC.
this script sounds so ai generated
It was confirmed that this is actually him and not AI.
@@floppavevo5920 some people think that EVERYTHING ever to exist is ai…
Stop giving Dream credit for bringing Minecraft back; That groomer only got popular BECAUSE PewDiePie started his let's play and refused to give out his seed.
Just cause you don't like him doesn't mean you call him a groomer wtf, and besides dream did bring Minecraft back to the mainstream.
@@wr8ththaking uhm hello!? Pewdiepie exists!
i did not subscribe but thanks for the info
hello
SKIBBITI
What about if they make a palworld Minecraft mod?
PIN PLS TO LET PPL KNOW, IT’S *NOT AI*
He's logdotzip
@@t-rexfan650 exactly. Also the “dot” is spelled out, it’s not just a literal full stop/period
@@NotImp2021 yeah but stop being a begger plz pin like iv seen u everywhere
The amount of times this man mispronounced Pokemon as "Po-key-mon" infuriated me but good video
i do not care
is this logdotzip?
ya
@@CraftingHistoryMC please do digimobs next