6DOF Motion Rig - Pure Silence? - Dirt 2.0
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2022
- Please excuse the driving, it's been soooo long since I've fired Dirt up. I'm glad I did because now I remember why I love it so much!
Here is the updated actuators in action. The difference is outstanding!! OMFG! Enjoy.
Testing out ZEN's profile, although I did some tweaking but boy it rattles your soul! :D Monitors seems to hold up great too so that's a massive plus! Most of the noise is basically the frame and monitors and peripherals shaking themselves into oblivion haha.
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You are losing the immersion because your eyes and brain are still fully aware of your surroundings.. throw a headset on and you will be shocked at how much more immersive that becomes 👍
Nice rig either way 😉
Yeah i got VR and I love it but its been sidelined for a bit while i get everything back up and running. screens are much better for tweaking profiles and settings and for when you have friends over and also less anoyance with motion cancellation and just playing nice with 1000 other things chewing up usb ports haha. Once everythings tuned and good i'll bust out the headset again. :) Maybe i'll add a canopy at least for the time being.. it'll help with immersion on the screen side of things
@@peacemakermotion3949 if you have to cancel out a lot of motion for VR then it's a sign to dial down your motion. Less is more when it comes to motion in VR
Mate awesome work and great to hear the updates have done what you hoped they would do, missing the sim scene need to get back into this as you guys are really nailing it with actuator development ..Congratulations on Job well done and perseverance.. thanks form wannabeaflyer on behalf of the motion simming community 🙂
Cheers mate for the kind words as always. Its good to be back in the hot seat to be honest. takes a little bit to get your confidence back in the mechanical hardware side of things but everything is feeling rock solid so far :) Super keen to get the HOTAS setup now for some flight sim action!
Great Work! It is satisfying to watch this.
It’s been fun watching this thing evolve.
Plenty more to do.. but I'm just going to enjoy it for a while now. It's been far too long between builds 😁
congratulations, really nice! have much fun, with your rig. :)
Man this thing is absolutely insane!!!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Thanks mate! You'll have to come for a thrash one of these days :)
Getting better and better! 👌
Thanks mate! Just like FlyPT Mover. None of this would be possible if it wasn't for your amazing software! Thankyou :)
Wowwwww 😮 omg I wish I knew how to make something like that. Dream fuel! Excellent job!
😆😆😆 I was waiting to see you get ejected through the ceiling! Nice rig!
huge improvement
Congratulation 👍 Your rig is now perfect for me 😉
Maybe when I get some fancy aluminium parts from my French mate.. then it'll be perfect 😝😁
Don't worry...no problem for that 👍😉
what a beast ! fckn awesome !
Lol I’m getting close to finishing the first build you show cased which I can’t wait for maybe 2-3 more months. now I’m sold on upgrading for sure 😂 that seams quiet as a mouse and very smooth, nice work. I’m not the best on computers and stuff so iv really appreciated all your videos and info on your builds cheers 👍 if the videos where vhs they would be burnt out by now lol. Are you going to be releasing any 3d print files of your new actuator build? I like the looks of your print for your quick release to the motor aswell, looks sturdy, Do you like the quick release you have attached to it, I’m looking at getting one of those type?. Loving your new upgrades bro the frame looks a lot better now✌️
Hey mate! Cheers, yes the new system is super smooth and quiet. But I also think if you have a good quality ballscrew in either system you'll be doing yourself a massive favour in the noise department straight away. Especially with a 1610. If you are almost done with V1. Just get that up amd running first for sure. The new actuator can easily be implemented. I just took one off at a time and converted them :)
As for the cheap quick releases.. dont do it! They are absolute garbage I was lucky to get one good one without play. I have some new ones arrive so I'll do a video on the cheap ones and the new qr1 style ones I got.
awesome job. i was here since even before the first actuators.
the community would really appreciate if you could upload a video on how to assemble these v3 actuators :)
Much love man! I'll update my xsimulator post to reflect new design and with the STL files etc when I'm back from holiday. I'm quite happy with the performance so far so I think its passed enough testing :D. Went a little quiet because I was getting bombarded with people asking for my new design when I was still designing amd testing lol. Think it's at a stage where I can share now.
As for the build. It's exactly the same as my v2 but with different top hat to incorporate bigger linear bearings rather than sleeves. The video showing off the design for the top hat with the new bearings will fill in those blanks. :)
Thanks,
Chris
Siiiiick... that looks like so much fun. Wish I could try it haha.
Which stage/course is that? I gotta boot up Dirt 2 and try it out.
Can I ask 2 questions? First of all, your work is an art. Absolutely amazing.
1. Do you have to use two separate 120v power out lets or just one is enough to run the whole system?
2. How much did it cost total to build the rig?
Thank you for sharing such an inspirational video man.
would also love to know that tbh
Very Beautiful and efficient rig, congratulations 👍 . Do you also have some 10 kHz noise frequency from the 80st2430 drivers ?
I sure do. I clip the 10khz spectrum in premiere when I edit so it doesn't annoy anyone 😆. It's not that noticeable but I know it's there so it's gotta go 😁
Cable management next ! good job 👍✌
Yeah I need to order a whole bunch of longer cables.. might just build a false floor on the room.. would be easier 🤣
Niiiice!
My Huesinkfeld sequential shifter keeps dropping out in AMS2. Wonder if it's an EMI issue too. Where can I get that DR2 profile?
Nice work. Looking forward to more. Just curious, how many watts does it take to power this rig? Have you ever measured it? Thanks for sharing.
Cheers :) The max I've recorded is 1125w. Plenty of headroom for my 240v circuit. Not sure how accurate those cheap ebay meters are though haha. Bit never tripped a breaker ever. And I also have pc and everything else running off same circuit.
The 6 motors are capable of 4500w max though.. just shows that we aren't utilising them anywhere near their full potential.
Really quite silent, very impressive!
Haha yeah. When the creaking of the frame is louder you know you're onto a good thing haha
Impressive! Are you using flypt mover? And how are you able to have that much road detail without the rig going crazy when you crash?
Sorry missed this one man! The tuning profile has filters. In these filters you can filter out the small fast bumps (which I need to do more of here) and it also filters out larger spikes like when you crash hard. There's a bit of a fine line where you can filter out too much and not feel crashes hardly at all. This is good for the rigs life and mechanical properties of course but takes away from immersion and it doesn't punish you for your mistakes so I like to still feel an impact but not the full impact. Other people like to filter impacts even more but it's personal preference. It can get sore after a fairly rough race haha. With no filters at all you can't even drive of the road onto the grass the rig is bouncing around that much, I would hate to experience a full crash without filtering!! Haha
Amazing!!! So happy for you… hey don’t cut the part you climb on to the rig haha
Cheers mate! Ok next video I'll climb in just for you 😁
I want to see that too.. looks tricky
@@DeanoDrives if you watch the POV video I did you can watch it in first firson view at least :)
Very nice what spike filter settings are you running in controller and mover. Seemed very bumpy but that would be close to the real thing right.
Yeah I don't use spike filter. I have actuator filtering on the rig edymp or whatever is called set to 1. Pulse filter in thanos set to 1. I usually do 2 for dirt which helps. I might just increase emalp on heave as it's on only on 50.. I found setting spike filter up for each game on thanos a bit tedious so just use ptmover. I see thanos is all in mm now so maybe I'll revisit it one of these days. Maybe it's easier to dial in.
We need to hit up some racing soon mate!
@@peacemakermotion3949 I have been using filters on flypt and thanos - need to get latest firmware working, agreed we need to have a race. Working on a electro mechanical brake at present.
Hey mate, I know you probably get this a lot. Is there any chance you got a V3 BOM kicking around? I’m keen to make one of the actuators to get my head around the process.
Hey mate sorry away honeymooning. I'll be sure to upload all files and what to xsimulator soon.. when I'm back. :)
Hi,very very top end product!!! Are you ingeneer? Could You tell me if It Is possibile to turno off roll angle and pitch angle effect?( Up Hill steep ,Downhill steep and lateral steep )in simtool
Thanks mate. Nope I'm not an engineer, just an enthusiast :)
Yes in the flypt mover software you can just remove any motion you want. Like roll and pitch.
Nice work.. How much the rig cost? .. Only motion parts.. Not wheel or wheel base or monitor
Two things:
1. For an macro for instant resent directly on a button on your wheel you can use the 'free' software (donate if you want) 'Joytokey'. It can map inputs of a controller to a keyboard and includes a very good macro tool.
2. What did you map on the movement? Just the basic movement ?
I don't have motion yet and I only use bass shakers. They are quite good for the small stuff like road texture, engine sound, ... It would also smooth the basic movement a lot to change the high frequencies away of the motion and reduce wear in the actuators. Do you have any long time experience with this small and fast movements you use?
Hey mate, yeah if you look carefully on the shelf to the left I have 2 bass shakers ready to go on. I am going to use for engine sound and try take some of the road texture too exactly for this reason to remove stress not only from the actuators but also the peripherals like monitors and stuff like that :) next thing on the long list of things to do 😂
I also have a stream deck on my left for macros. I just haven't set anything up for dirt yet. I also usually have my keyboard there as well but haven't found a place to mount it since I put on the triple screens :)
I did like 100 hours in my last rig and the vibrations didn't bother it too much. Hard crashes under weight when hitting the estop is what does damage 🤣 trust me I know
mhh does these actuators only work with stepper/servo Motors or can i use standard motors from my rotary/worm gear rig + Hall Sensor ?
Are they AC or DC. I know thanos old controller could do DC motors with hall sensors and this controller can still do them with some modifications. But you would be better off getting a hold of his old amc1280 controller as that's what it was meant for. The next thing is speed. These motors are 3000rpm so with 5mm and 10mm pitch ballscrews that 250mm and 500mm/s travel speed respectively. If your motors only 1000rpm then it won't be travelling faster enough. You could then look at a 25mm pitch screw I guess.. but then it need enough torque to drive it as well.
@@peacemakermotion3949 i have DC Motors 24V with 1800rpm (120Watts) i have arduinos and sabertooth for a rotary worm gear driven leverarm rig. i think i dont need high lifts with the rig. 10 cm up and 10 cm down from the center should be fine, because i want to use it in VR. less is more in this case :D just want to know it its possible to build someting with the ballscrews.
Cool
May I ask what is Zen's profile? Thank you
ZEN is another guy in the motion sim scene. He also has a 6dof hexapod. In the FlyPT software there is now an option for people to upload their tuned profiles they have made for certain games so you can browse what people have done and and download and then apply those profiles to your rig. You will have to make some minor adjustments to suit your rigs dimensions and travel etc but tit can be a good starting point when starting out or it's also good to see what others have spent hours dialing in and what filters they use etc. Everyone has their own taste and understanding of the software or how the motion should be interpreted. He has made a fair few profiles for other games too. They all seem pretty good so far.
I have no idea why my monitors stopped working, they are only a few months old.😂
The monitors...
Those screens can take that much beating?
Its pretty impresive hey haha. The center screen ive had on it for 2 years copping a beating so that game me the confidence to add some more :)
Scary as hell... btw how much did your 6dof motion rig cost you?
@@daemon3spade about 5k AUD for the rig only
oh geeezzzoh jeezzz.. thats already the price of my wheel+base+pedal+shifters.. but not so bad for a 6dof motiin rig thats already cheap right?
@@daemon3spade haha yeah well considering 6 PT Actuators with the same specs are close to 15k AUD then you need to build the frame still.. its not too bad 😁. It's not a cheap hobby by any means 😅
it's illigal to drive barefoot!
As a professional driver i could say as an advice that your seat position to steering wheel is very bad. Your wheel its based like in a truck ,not like race car. The upper side of the wheel should be on the level of your nose/mouth. Best regards!
Yeah it's not the best but 3 or 4 years ago when making the frame it was for a totally different wheel and seat combo. This is the reason i got the Trakracer wheel mount you see in the video.. so i can change the angle and use extensions etc.. but then it was too far forward so i had to reverse it and it wont angle up.. more modifications for another day. One day i'll get around to building a whole new frame that will incorporate it's evolution properly. This is just making best of a bad situation lol.