Dude I can’t even fathom anyone giving this a yes answer. Mangas have so many cliches and examples of bad writing the only people I’m convinced would say yes to this question are either weebs or people who have never actually read western comics. Remember back tingle powerups in dragonball super? The talk no jutsu in Naruto? Made in abyss being a creepy fetish comic? And that’s just examples of the top of my head. If anything the quality is more or less similar.
Not gonna lie, a lot of Marvel Stories are one of the best comic stories ever created. Avengers/New avengers is just beautiful, Secret Wars, Secret Invasion, the new X-men comics. DC is also great, Superman : Lost, Superman VS the elite, Red Hood and the outlaws Rebirth...
@@sangamchauhan3564Those only happens in both marvel and dc's crossover event. I highly recommend you to read indie comics like King spawn, Once and future, Radiant Black, Magic order, Nocterra, Birthright, Monstress, Deadly class etc. I bet you won't be disappointed. Comics that came from 2022-23 are slightly better than Manga that came in same year as well
My biggest problem with western comics is just how BIG the super hero genre is like there are tons of great non super hero comics that people dont know thanks to just how big super heros are like if you look at shownen jump, yes a lot of the stuff is similar, but almost every manga is defrent in its own way and there almost an endless about of genres and you dont have to catch up on 60+ years worth of storylines like marvel and dc sense most manga have the same auther and you just gatta start at chapter 1. An other thing that realy frustrates me is how theres almost no marketing for comics like compared to how manga is marked in Japan comics rares get any marketing even for marvel and dc and this sucks cuz there's sooo many great storys which or not marvel or dc that most people dont even know like im pretty shure im the only one in my entire state that knows who luther strode is or have read American jesus.
The west vs east question was dumb because sepecifically marvel and DC are worse right now (mostly marvel) and image for example are good, so it was probably made by someone whose not a western comic reader. Also there many indie authors who specifically emulate old western comic styles and the succeed because marvel and DC are stuck in a weird place and don't deliver what readers want
I don’t necessarily think it’s eastern storytelling that makes manga popular than comics. No one is watching live action Japanese or Korean movies. When was the last time you’ve seen someone talk about a Tokusatsu or Korean horror movie? It’s that people think that manga is the only place where you can get something that’s not superheroes. This is a systemic problem with comics since like the 50s with the comics code.
Actually korean drama is popular where im from. However, eastern writing generally are more diverse then just superhero story and less politics in it, i think thats why
@@albertmaheswara9968 I forgot about K Dramas, which I didn’t even realize was a thing until my ex-girlfriend mentioned it. So that’s fair. Although anime has less politics? That’s a laugh.
@@thomasffrench3639 why is it a laugh? Anime don't usually shove down a specific view or political belief and the writer don't use he media as propaganda for their personal political believes. There's no SJW talking point in the animes I've watched, idk what kinda anime you're talking about then.
@@albertmaheswara9968 yeah it does. Gundam being a foundation is pretty obvious in its views on Japanese foreign policy in the 1940s, Yu Yu Hakusho shows the treatment of deviants in Japanese society that doesn’t help them, but just makes them treated as good for nothings, despite the fact that they are kids, My Hero talking about the same thing to a more massive scale, Hunter x Hunter talking about the worst of humanity, classism in Shojo manga, the list goes on. I don’t see how trans or gay people existing is as political as exploring systemic issues in Japanese society.
@@thomasffrench3639 japanese author exploring systemic or political issues in their work is not the same as shoving 1 specific political view, and then shaming fans who disagree with that view on twitter, like what the SJW and woke Hollywood does. Do no conflate the two, that's not the arguments I'm making The animes you listed uses certain political views as stories (minus shojo since you're not specific on that, and Gundam since I've only ever watch Witch from Mercury), I do not argue against that. Using political stances and believes in your story is fine, and it's not the same as USING THE SHOW as platform to further one's own personal political agenda
Comics really aren't bad I just wish people will look at other companies for comics other than DC and Marvel, comics aren't always about superheroes sometimes it's a guy fighting against a girl's evil exes and trying to become a better person
"The harem stuff that goes on in a lot of anime, super cringe." Looks like I wasn't the only one to think this. I once met someone in real life who legitimately passed it off as interesting.
I mean, if they find it interesting then they find it interesting. I dont personally like Harem since i kinda want my romance stories to not be confusing. But just cause i personally dislike it doesn't mean it can't be interesting to other people
More long-form content like this PLEASE, Brandon! I'm an artist who wants to publish a manga someday, and I think you should put together a course or something for people who want to do what you do. (Also I just found out you worked with ComiPa... bro I was loving his art on DeviantArt when I was a kid like 15 years ago.)
btw do you seek inspiration in music? I think music is really helpful in creating personalities and even arcs cause a lot of albums create a journey of sorts. also some games are really helpful in that as well, right now I think fear & hunger 2 termina has a pretty cool setting for horror.
This is so awesome I can learn so many new things . Also I wanted to say you got me a heavenly into learning how to animate and I plan on in the future animating God game.
Manga is so much better than a lot of American comics these days, however, there are indie comics that are very good and imulate the style and storytelling of manga. The 1930s - 1990s Marvel and DC comics were good. Some in the 2000s were good too. The 2010s was in my opinion, the true decline of American comics. Manga forever will remain supreme. ❤
Then how about you look outside of DC and Marvel and look at other really good comic books out there. People are so stuck on DC and Marvel that they forget the big open world of Comic Books.
Idk if you're gonna read this, but personally I disagree with what you said at 7:12. I haven't read all of god game(my bad) however I didn't click off because I "disliked" the main character. The overall premise was interesting enough to captivate me, the reader, and make me read on. I think the premise and other characters are equally as important for a good story that can keep a reader's interest.
Sure, I can see how other factors can carry an interest. But characters > everything else in a story, characters are king. If people hate the character, it’s tough to read!
@@inspired.author Eh i kinda disagree, while yes characters ARE important but without plot they are basically aimless and have nowhere to go. Also you CAN make a terrible mc and have people still like the show for example Walter white from breaking bad and Patrick Bateman from american psycho ( i know these are not manga or anime but the same concept still applies of a story being good while also having terrible MC's.)
On annoying tropes I am very tired of the stuck in a videogame world / reality is like a videogame but the mc encounters a glitch and they get OP, or, real world all of a sudden dungeons are appearing and everyone starts wielding daggers and bows and swords to deal with monsters (rather than guns cause magic or whatever)
I really recommend about some great comic stuff . Like vertigo and another publisher. Not of gen z didn't like super hero . Some or most of them love super hero . And that why like my hero or opm popular and connect to gen z. But the problem is story and character that should to make reader can connect with them . Maybe you should read some of them to see another comic genre or super hero too. Some of story are goal like long Halloween batman or sandman . Maybe preacher . Thank for video brah .
Then you really have a problem. Work out their needs and wants, and why people should attach to your main. Maybe your side charas should become the main
@@Orozus Is that really such a bad thing though?🤔 if they're still reading the story.. To see how the other characters progress, isn't it still a good thing?
This is the same thing as saying that Avatar is the best movie of all time because it made the most money. You're right about the first part though, there isn't much of a debate since both mediums vary so wildly in quality that making a comparison that isn't openly subjective is just stupid. It's not even true to say that manga is better in general, there is so much F tier garbage out there that it ends up evening out with comics.
@water1374 it's not like that at all. It's like comparing the internet to smoke signals. American comics are a walking corpse. No one buys, reads, or talks about it until there's another movie based on the property. The art is bad, the stories are worse. Manga doesn't just sell more. It's loved more.
@@sugarzblossom8168 I like the art and stories. You can still keep reading your soyboy protagonist, overpowered, harem, anime and manga as much as you want. I’ll stick to finding good stories and detailed designs in manga and comics.
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Dude I can’t even fathom anyone giving this a yes answer. Mangas have so many cliches and examples of bad writing the only people I’m convinced would say yes to this question are either weebs or people who have never actually read western comics. Remember back tingle powerups in dragonball super? The talk no jutsu in Naruto? Made in abyss being a creepy fetish comic? And that’s just examples of the top of my head. If anything the quality is more or less similar.
Not gonna lie, a lot of Marvel Stories are one of the best comic stories ever created. Avengers/New avengers is just beautiful, Secret Wars, Secret Invasion, the new X-men comics. DC is also great, Superman : Lost, Superman VS the elite, Red Hood and the outlaws Rebirth...
Yes, but for every great comic run these days there’s countless horrible ones.
And to read that you have to jump from one story issue to another story issue.
Whether in manga you just have to read one series.
@@sangamchauhan3564 also true unfortunately
@@sangamchauhan3564Those only happens in both marvel and dc's crossover event. I highly recommend you to read indie comics like King spawn, Once and future, Radiant Black, Magic order, Nocterra, Birthright, Monstress, Deadly class etc. I bet you won't be disappointed. Comics that came from 2022-23 are slightly better than Manga that came in same year as well
@@androidtipstricks7860 can any of your comics beat Berserk manga, and I not saying this in a way to redicule you. I'm just asking a genuine question.
My biggest problem with western comics is just how BIG the super hero genre is like there are tons of great non super hero comics that people dont know thanks to just how big super heros are like if you look at shownen jump, yes a lot of the stuff is similar, but almost every manga is defrent in its own way and there almost an endless about of genres and you dont have to catch up on 60+ years worth of storylines like marvel and dc sense most manga have the same auther and you just gatta start at chapter 1. An other thing that realy frustrates me is how theres almost no marketing for comics like compared to how manga is marked in Japan comics rares get any marketing even for marvel and dc and this sucks cuz there's sooo many great storys which or not marvel or dc that most people dont even know like im pretty shure im the only one in my entire state that knows who luther strode is or have read American jesus.
The west vs east question was dumb because sepecifically marvel and DC are worse right now (mostly marvel) and image for example are good, so it was probably made by someone whose not a western comic reader. Also there many indie authors who specifically emulate old western comic styles and the succeed because marvel and DC are stuck in a weird place and don't deliver what readers want
I don’t necessarily think it’s eastern storytelling that makes manga popular than comics. No one is watching live action Japanese or Korean movies. When was the last time you’ve seen someone talk about a Tokusatsu or Korean horror movie? It’s that people think that manga is the only place where you can get something that’s not superheroes. This is a systemic problem with comics since like the 50s with the comics code.
Actually korean drama is popular where im from.
However, eastern writing generally are more diverse then just superhero story and less politics in it, i think thats why
@@albertmaheswara9968 I forgot about K Dramas, which I didn’t even realize was a thing until my ex-girlfriend mentioned it. So that’s fair. Although anime has less politics? That’s a laugh.
@@thomasffrench3639 why is it a laugh?
Anime don't usually shove down a specific view or political belief and the writer don't use he media as propaganda for their personal political believes. There's no SJW talking point in the animes I've watched, idk what kinda anime you're talking about then.
@@albertmaheswara9968 yeah it does. Gundam being a foundation is pretty obvious in its views on Japanese foreign policy in the 1940s, Yu Yu Hakusho shows the treatment of deviants in Japanese society that doesn’t help them, but just makes them treated as good for nothings, despite the fact that they are kids, My Hero talking about the same thing to a more massive scale, Hunter x Hunter talking about the worst of humanity, classism in Shojo manga, the list goes on. I don’t see how trans or gay people existing is as political as exploring systemic issues in Japanese society.
@@thomasffrench3639 japanese author exploring systemic or political issues in their work is not the same as shoving 1 specific political view, and then shaming fans who disagree with that view on twitter, like what the SJW and woke Hollywood does. Do no conflate the two, that's not the arguments I'm making
The animes you listed uses certain political views as stories (minus shojo since you're not specific on that, and Gundam since I've only ever watch Witch from Mercury), I do not argue against that. Using political stances and believes in your story is fine, and it's not the same as USING THE SHOW as platform to further one's own personal political agenda
Comics really aren't bad I just wish people will look at other companies for comics other than DC and Marvel, comics aren't always about superheroes sometimes it's a guy fighting against a girl's evil exes and trying to become a better person
"The harem stuff that goes on in a lot of anime, super cringe."
Looks like I wasn't the only one to think this. I once met someone in real life who legitimately passed it off as interesting.
You all lack culture
I mean, if they find it interesting then they find it interesting. I dont personally like Harem since i kinda want my romance stories to not be confusing. But just cause i personally dislike it doesn't mean it can't be interesting to other people
@@albertmaheswara9968 if anything, I wasn't bothered by the fact they liked harem. I was just surprised I found someone who enjoyed it.
@@Skyeleafe oh I see, nvm then
More long-form content like this PLEASE, Brandon! I'm an artist who wants to publish a manga someday, and I think you should put together a course or something for people who want to do what you do. (Also I just found out you worked with ComiPa... bro I was loving his art on DeviantArt when I was a kid like 15 years ago.)
Hi~
@@comipaton Senpai! If I could draw half as well as you, I'd be happy. Just followed you on insta :)
Who do you pitch your ideas to?
being flexible - wow, a life lesson. thank you!!!!
btw do you seek inspiration in music? I think music is really helpful in creating personalities and even arcs cause a lot of albums create a journey of sorts. also some games are really helpful in that as well, right now I think fear & hunger 2 termina has a pretty cool setting for horror.
This is so awesome I can learn so many new things . Also I wanted to say you got me a heavenly into learning how to animate and I plan on in the future animating God game.
Manga is so much better than a lot of American comics these days, however, there are indie comics that are very good and imulate the style and storytelling of manga. The 1930s - 1990s Marvel and DC comics were good. Some in the 2000s were good too. The 2010s was in my opinion, the true decline of American comics. Manga forever will remain supreme. ❤
Then how about you look outside of DC and Marvel and look at other really good comic books out there. People are so stuck on DC and Marvel that they forget the big open world of Comic Books.
@paolobenedetti6438 I do look at others besides DC and Marvel sir. Have a great day. 👋
@@etherealdreamerart Oh really? List ten comics that aren't DC and Marvel along with not belonging in the superhero genre. Do it fast.
Have you read ultimate spider man? It’s like marvel put spiderman on the hardest difficulty
Many poke fun at 90s comics but we can’t deny that we had some of the most important moments in comics during that time
Idk if you're gonna read this, but personally I disagree with what you said at 7:12. I haven't read all of god game(my bad) however I didn't click off because I "disliked" the main character. The overall premise was interesting enough to captivate me, the reader, and make me read on. I think the premise and other characters are equally as important for a good story that can keep a reader's interest.
Sure, I can see how other factors can carry an interest. But characters > everything else in a story, characters are king. If people hate the character, it’s tough to read!
@@inspired.author Eh i kinda disagree, while yes characters ARE important but without plot they are basically aimless and have nowhere to go. Also you CAN make a terrible mc and have people still like the show for example Walter white from breaking bad and Patrick Bateman from american psycho ( i know these are not manga or anime but the same concept still applies of a story being good while also having terrible MC's.)
@@IcyNever”walter is a badly written character”
@@aminikamini8394 why?
@@IcyNever walter white is an amzingly written character I just thought it was funny you used him as an example for a bad character
Great Q&A, Hope you succeed in getting a anime till 30!!!😊
On annoying tropes I am very tired of the stuck in a videogame world / reality is like a videogame but the mc encounters a glitch and they get OP, or, real world all of a sudden dungeons are appearing and everyone starts wielding daggers and bows and swords to deal with monsters (rather than guns cause magic or whatever)
I really recommend about some great comic stuff . Like vertigo and another publisher.
Not of gen z didn't like super hero .
Some or most of them love super hero . And that why like my hero or opm popular and connect to gen z.
But the problem is story and character that should to make reader can connect with them .
Maybe you should read some of them to see another comic genre or super hero too. Some of story are goal like long Halloween batman or sandman . Maybe preacher .
Thank for video brah .
Is gray colour allowed in manga ?
I would like to find an anime whereas the main character isn't afraid of a woman's advances.
How do you feel about your side characters being more likable than your main characters?🤔
Then you really have a problem. Work out their needs and wants, and why people should attach to your main.
Maybe your side charas should become the main
@@Orozus Is that really such a bad thing though?🤔 if they're still reading the story.. To see how the other characters progress, isn't it still a good thing?
I haven't read this dude's work but don't we have more likable characters than the main character in Mangas all the time?
@@totallynotalazyguy737 yes I agree. And I see all the time in anime as well.
…..yes
Is that even a question?
There shouldn't be a cparison I would say.
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No
This is barely even debatable. Manga burried American comics over a decade ago
This is the same thing as saying that Avatar is the best movie of all time because it made the most money. You're right about the first part though, there isn't much of a debate since both mediums vary so wildly in quality that making a comparison that isn't openly subjective is just stupid. It's not even true to say that manga is better in general, there is so much F tier garbage out there that it ends up evening out with comics.
Hard disagree, but I will take anything that is not superhero capeshit all day everyday.
@water1374 it's not like that at all. It's like comparing the internet to smoke signals. American comics are a walking corpse. No one buys, reads, or talks about it until there's another movie based on the property. The art is bad, the stories are worse. Manga doesn't just sell more. It's loved more.
@@ericb5328I like the art
@@sugarzblossom8168 I like the art and stories. You can still keep reading your soyboy protagonist, overpowered, harem, anime and manga as much as you want. I’ll stick to finding good stories and detailed designs in manga and comics.