i dont get it, mercedes was given such a hard time from the 651 suffering from timing chains, why would they put another simplex chain in the 654? surprised they havent been taken to court or an inquiry hasnt been opened
After 2009, Mercedes engines dropped in quality and became unreliable, the 651s are more unreliable in comparison with the 654. 651s have a lot of issues with the injectors, oil cooler, egr valve etc. And the 651s in general are a lot more common with timing chain issues after the 120,000 miles mark. We have seen 654s at 350,000 miles with no issues with the chain at all. The most common issue we have seen with 654 is the rocker arms and the chain so far but apart from that it seems way more reliable than the 651 engine.
@@enkamotors7012 я работаю в такси и у меня машина с двигателем om654. Очень проблемная машина. Многие избавляются от них ближе к 200 000.Обычно замена турбины и рокеров на таком пробеге. Но есть водитель у которого больше 300 000 и всё нормально. Ещё есть проблемы с вакумным насосом.. Но бензиновые двигатели ездят без проблем
@@ИванИванов-з8г6с yes everything you’ve said is true, usually after 200,000 miles they have chain issues as well. If you want to change the vacuum pump, you need to take the engine and timing chain out, because the vacuum pump is on the oil pump, which is inside the engine. Hope that was helpful :)
@@HT-qq2ri спасибо за информацию! Но с вакумным насосом столкнулся мой друг на пробеге 70-80 000.Я на своём авто менял пока турбину и рокера. Бензиновый двигатель у друга проехала уже 450 000 и особых проблем не было.
It has more than 300k miles on the clock. There all mercedes on this channel are taxi. This engine is black inside so nobody give a shit about oil change.
Ola tudo bem,sou do brasil e sigo voces aqui pelo youtube, estou fazendo uma manutencao em um veiculo sprinter 907 com motor om 654 se tiver o manual de reparacao desse motor para poder compartilhar comigo ficarei muito grato
@@enkamotors7012 there actually is a timing mark, the hole in the fuel pump gear, must be liked up with the notch on the timing cover at approx 2 o'clock.
I own w213 e200 4matic. It has 107k kilometers and was services in mercedes year 2018. I noticed that bencin engine is quite loud but still less then diesel. Is this normal?? or should i worry
In one of our timing chain videos we show the diesel pump timing, however some people who have changed it at a different (incorrect) diesel timing their car works fine.
I search this, But i cant find it. Know i have to take the new chain on but i don‘t know if the injektion pump have rotated at the works on the Engine, can you Send Me maybe a foto where i can see the correkt time
Merhabalar ustam işleriniz rast gitsin. Bir sorum olacak. Bildiginiz gibi om654 un 1.6 geçen versiyonu da var. Bu iki motorun birbirinden farkları neler? 1.6 versiyonu da elinizden geçti mi daha önce? Om654 te dikkat etmemiz gerekenler neler? teşekkürler..
1.6 diesel motorlar bizim buralarda pek tercih edilmiyor. Genelde 2.0 yada 3.0 diesel motor lar tercih ediliyor. 1.6 larda zincir arizasi daha cok oluyor. Ama 1.6 ve 2.0 3.0 motorlar birbirlerinden tamamen farkli.
Timing chain is not an issue if the oil is changed every 6-7k miles. Mercedes intervals show 15-16k miles for service intervals. I’ve had customers go on until 350k miles without any chain issues they just made sure the oil and filter was replaced every 6-7k miles
@@em4703 bruh, he said for the 2 generations older engine which has duplex chain and it is in front of the engine. Which was the last bulletproof engine
USTA hayırlı işlerin olsun kolay gelsin yaptığınız işler güzel falan bir önerim var video anlatımları turkce olarak yaparsanız videolarınız türkiyede daha çok izlenir takipçi sayınız artar
sagol kardesim onerin icin olabilir bazilarini turkce yapariz. bu bizim musterilerimiz icin bunlar youtube den gelen musteriler. birazda o yuzden ingilizce yapiyoruz
Ustam işinizi severek yaptığınız belli gerçekten güzel ve profesyonel çalışıyorsunuz ben de bi taxici olarak londrada yillardır böyle işinden annayan ustalarla karşılaşmadım desem yalan olmaz bundan sonra ben de enka motors diyorum okadar
Уважаемый мастер, как я могу с вами связаться, я живу в Москве. У меня есть к вам вопросы, у меня Мерседес 213, двигатель 654, у меня такая же проблема,Странный звук.звук очень похож, как у вас на роликах в youtube. К большому сожалению, я не могу приехать к вам на сервис и сделать машину, пожалуйста, подскажите мне, что мне надо. Купить, чтобы данную проблему решить.
Good day, one of our workers is Russian, if you would like, you can leave your WhatsApp number and we can contact you some time tomorrow, and help you with your problem. We have some other videos with the same 654 engine but different issues. Watch those and see which one is closest to your problem so we can help you better. Thank you.
Понятно что уже поздно. Но может быть это рокера. Из-за рокеров тоже такой же звук. Например у меня и не могли понять что произошло с двигателем. У меня просто вздрагивал двигатель как будто одна из форсунок не работает. В итоге поменяли форсунки и проблема не пропала. Сняли клапанную крышку и проверили рокера. Был разбит один рокер сильно а остальные более менее. В итоге поменяли все рокера и проблема была решена.
Im here because a customer has been driving his 2017 e class 200d with oil diluted for over 6 months engine is now scrap as from neglect terrible how some people do things
What kind of noise does it make? We have other videos of Mercedes with the same engine, all making different noises. if you check the other videos with 654 model Mercedes, that could tell you what the issue and the solution is. Does your car have the same engine as the one in the video. I hope that was helpful!
Good job :) clear and precise ! thanks for the video
i dont get it, mercedes was given such a hard time from the 651 suffering from timing chains, why would they put another simplex chain in the 654? surprised they havent been taken to court or an inquiry hasnt been opened
After 2009, Mercedes engines dropped in quality and became unreliable, the 651s are more unreliable in comparison with the 654. 651s have a lot of issues with the injectors, oil cooler, egr valve etc. And the 651s in general are a lot more common with timing chain issues after the 120,000 miles mark. We have seen 654s at 350,000 miles with no issues with the chain at all. The most common issue we have seen with 654 is the rocker arms and the chain so far but apart from that it seems way more reliable than the 651 engine.
@@enkamotors7012 я работаю в такси и у меня машина с двигателем om654. Очень проблемная машина. Многие избавляются от них ближе к 200 000.Обычно замена турбины и рокеров на таком пробеге. Но есть водитель у которого больше 300 000 и всё нормально. Ещё есть проблемы с вакумным насосом.. Но бензиновые двигатели ездят без проблем
@@ИванИванов-з8г6с yes everything you’ve said is true, usually after 200,000 miles they have chain issues as well. If you want to change the vacuum pump, you need to take the engine and timing chain out, because the vacuum pump is on the oil pump, which is inside the engine. Hope that was helpful :)
@@HT-qq2ri спасибо за информацию! Но с вакумным насосом столкнулся мой друг на пробеге 70-80 000.Я на своём авто менял пока турбину и рокера. Бензиновый двигатель у друга проехала уже 450 000 и особых проблем не было.
It has more than 300k miles on the clock.
There all mercedes on this channel are taxi.
This engine is black inside so nobody give a shit about oil change.
Hi I have seen this video my car has same problem can you help me to fix it as ll please 🙏
How much u charge for timing chain replacement
interested about the price
How about high pressure pump how is going to be fit is that Any pacific Mark please ????
If you reply to me I will be appreciate that thanks
no timing mark
Ola tudo bem,sou do brasil e sigo voces aqui pelo youtube, estou fazendo uma manutencao em um veiculo sprinter 907 com motor om 654 se tiver o manual de reparacao desse motor para poder compartilhar comigo ficarei muito grato
И ещё если можно узнать какие были признаки растянутой цепи
Can I ask what will this normally cost all including parts n labour?
Hello can you tell me is it have timing setting on fuel pump or chain can be installed any position
Thanks om654 engine
hello no timing mark you can install any position
Hello thanks for answering one more what specs torque for timing chain idlegear please thanks
@@faziuxxx 50 nm 90 degrees
@@enkamotors7012 there actually is a timing mark, the hole in the fuel pump gear, must be liked up with the notch on the timing cover at approx 2 o'clock.
I want to buy the 2019-2020 w213 classe e pack amg. 220d. Its still have the same problem as the 2017?? Or they fix it?
Hi we never come across with 2019-2020 mercedes w213 with this fault but 2018 models has common problem
wich is easyer to change chain 651 or 654 ?
651 easy
Хотелось бы узнать какой пробег двигателя
200000 km
I own w213 e200 4matic.
It has 107k kilometers and was services in mercedes year 2018. I noticed that bencin engine is quite loud but still less then diesel. Is this normal?? or should i worry
Hello, where has the high pressure pump the Position to fix With OT?
In one of our timing chain videos we show the diesel pump timing, however some people who have changed it at a different (incorrect) diesel timing their car works fine.
I search this, But i cant find it. Know i have to take the new chain on but i don‘t know if the injektion pump have rotated at the works on the Engine, can you Send Me maybe a foto where i can see the correkt time
I Found it, the whole straight to the Web, but for this, the engine Must be on OT or on 290 degrees?
OT@@besnikm.8407
Hello,does anyone know from each year Mercedes improved those problems for om654?
Merhabalar ustam işleriniz rast gitsin. Bir sorum olacak. Bildiginiz gibi om654 un 1.6 geçen versiyonu da var. Bu iki motorun birbirinden farkları neler? 1.6 versiyonu da elinizden geçti mi daha önce? Om654 te dikkat etmemiz gerekenler neler? teşekkürler..
1.6 diesel motorlar bizim buralarda pek tercih edilmiyor. Genelde 2.0 yada 3.0 diesel motor lar tercih ediliyor. 1.6 larda zincir arizasi daha cok oluyor. Ama 1.6 ve 2.0 3.0 motorlar birbirlerinden tamamen farkli.
W212 does the engine need to come out like this to replace the chain
If it is 651 engine you can replace just the chain and tensioner by removing rocker cover by breaking the chain and adding the new chain to it
How many km has the car run?
200000 km
Brawo!!!
Is this a diesel or petrol engine?
Mercedes 654 2.0 Diesel engine.
Does this appear to be a common problem with this engine?
We have seen 2 cars with timing chain issues for this engine so far
Hello, what are weak points of OM654? roller rocker arms? timing chain? Something else?
Timing chain is not an issue if the oil is changed every 6-7k miles. Mercedes intervals show 15-16k miles for service intervals. I’ve had customers go on until 350k miles without any chain issues they just made sure the oil and filter was replaced every 6-7k miles
@@enkamotors70126 or 7000 km is ridicoulos, Mercedes official service is done every 40000 km, that is too much, the 15000 should be appropiate
10000km oil end filter!! Original oil or special after market full synthetic ever!!
@@anacletodeluca8194Hi, friend. We are very sorry for you! You have very little understanding of engines and oils for them!
@@nikk782 you are rigth, It's only more than 40 years that I fix cars 🤣🤣🤣
Good job buddy thanks
646 is a beast🔥
Timing in the back, a beast designed by i.d.iots
@@em4703 bruh, he said for the 2 generations older engine which has duplex chain and it is in front of the engine. Which was the last bulletproof engine
USTA hayırlı işlerin olsun kolay gelsin yaptığınız işler güzel falan bir önerim var video anlatımları turkce olarak yaparsanız videolarınız türkiyede daha çok izlenir takipçi sayınız artar
sagol kardesim onerin icin olabilir bazilarini turkce yapariz. bu bizim musterilerimiz icin bunlar youtube den gelen musteriler. birazda o yuzden ingilizce yapiyoruz
Скажите пожалуйста какой пробег двигателя
@@АндрейЗайко-д2ч 125000 mile 200000 km
senin icin ve diger turk takipciler icin 2 tane turkce video yaptim muhammed sirada onlar var.
Ustam işinizi severek yaptığınız belli gerçekten güzel ve profesyonel çalışıyorsunuz ben de bi taxici olarak londrada yillardır böyle işinden annayan ustalarla karşılaşmadım desem yalan olmaz bundan sonra ben de enka motors diyorum okadar
How many miles/kilometers does this engine have?
180000 miles
I have a 2012 W212 E350 and I’m hearing a similar noise to that just not as loud I believe I have the same problem
the gap in the chain makes it to its union;;
good job, but i do that witout remove valve covers and injectors or other components .
Not everyone has the tools to roll the chain in.
@@brittonstockwell1310 you don't need a special tool, actually there is no special tool for it,but i made the tool myself
thanks to the German enginers year after year the replacemant is getting so '' easy.''..
Usta selamın aleyküm w203 c220 cdı aracım var p2000 arızası alıyorum rolantide dalgalanma var Enjektör alçak basınç pompası rail borusundaki iki sensörü de değiştirdim
2.0 litre diesel ise genelde piyano tuslari ve eksantirik den olur. Arac rolantide ara ara kafa sallar piyano tuslarinda sikma olur.
What was the mileage on this car?
125000
What’s the price of this job
£4700
@@enkamotors7012 I live in Manchester is it doable for a novice Machanic
Уважаемый мастер, как я могу с вами связаться, я живу в Москве. У меня есть к вам вопросы, у меня Мерседес 213, двигатель 654, у меня такая же проблема,Странный звук.звук очень похож, как у вас на роликах в youtube. К большому сожалению, я не могу приехать к вам на сервис и сделать машину, пожалуйста, подскажите мне, что мне надо. Купить, чтобы данную проблему решить.
Good day, one of our workers is Russian, if you would like, you can leave your WhatsApp number and we can contact you some time tomorrow, and help you with your problem.
We have some other videos with the same 654 engine but different issues. Watch those and see which one is closest to your problem so we can help you better. Thank you.
Понятно что уже поздно. Но может быть это рокера. Из-за рокеров тоже такой же звук. Например у меня и не могли понять что произошло с двигателем. У меня просто вздрагивал двигатель как будто одна из форсунок не работает. В итоге поменяли форсунки и проблема не пропала. Сняли клапанную крышку и проверили рокера. Был разбит один рокер сильно а остальные более менее. В итоге поменяли все рокера и проблема была решена.
@@ИванИванов-з8г6с какой пробег был на момент появления звука?
Mileage please ?
Roughly 150000 miles
Desde Argentina. Km? Car
180,000 km
Imagine paying so much on a car and then cheaping out on oil change intervals 🤣🤣
Im here because a customer has been driving his 2017 e class 200d with oil diluted for over 6 months engine is now scrap as from neglect terrible how some people do things
👏👏👏
Добрый вечер проблема братцы двигатель вздрагивает помогите пожалуйста советом
What kind of noise does it make? We have other videos of Mercedes with the same engine, all making different noises. if you check the other videos with 654 model Mercedes, that could tell you what the issue and the solution is. Does your car have the same engine as the one in the video. I hope that was helpful!
Dear God what a cluster...
130000 miles
Om651 was definetly better
👍👍👍