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Women nag just to check if you are weak enough to put up with it. It's an unconscious vetting process. If you allow it, then she'll despise you, treat you as a cash cow and cheat on you with somebody that won't put up with her s***. This is how life works and for good reason. Be strong and both your lives will improve.
05:27 That "besty wake up" quote says it all. Hard faced ball breaker that can't find love, whispering in her friend's ear to screw up her relationships as well.
@@richardcrook2112 It's not about ignoring it deliberately. That's just oafish behaviour. It's about having an adult relationship, responding to reasonable criticism, and politely rebuffing undeserved criticism.
@@rocketpig1914 Your thinking like a bloke, women aren't like that. It's all about how they feel, reasonable criticism and rational rebuttal don't exist in that world. This can't be overstated.
It's funny to see the comment about a woman 'perceiving' a man as working less hard than she is because in my experience many ladies often overestimate how much work they've actually done and how hard the work was. Taking a longer time to do a task isn't working harder, in fact it's likely the opposite. It reminds me of the 'Everybody Hates Chris' episode where the dad stays at home and does the chores for a bit whilst between jobs. The fact is though that men often need a little nagging just to notice a 'problem' because men are far more easily contented than women. They generally can happily live in worse conditions, with less stuff, less socialisation and less entertainment. A hard days work will only make them less bothered by their surroundings. Of course this isn't great for children.
@@IVIaskerade Yes there is always perception bias. You probably think you are a good person even though the device you are commenting with was manufactured by Chinese slave children.
If you're in a band, they'll want to to get serious about your life. If you're too serious about your life, they'll want you to be a fun guy in a band. A woman married Alex Jones and then divorced him later for acting like Alex Jones. Women dont know what they want.
This is a matter of desire and necessity. The state and the job market affords freedom and opportunity that was previously impossible. If you want it all, and want it now, then remove the obstacle. This is the logic, and it's hard to argue with it. If you have more to gain through change, then why stay? Why not sample all the fruits of the forest when there is zero social and limited personal consequence? Why not try to see what else is out there, and whether the grass is greener on the other side?
@@Mr___Xit's hard to argue with it? Are you serious? There is no having it all. It's egoistic delusion that usually comes back to bite people massively when their expiration date hits or they have burned all the bridges.
Women don't think like Jordan Peterson. There's no objective level you have to reach, fulfilling various specifications and then your deemed good enough to have children with. It's all highly subjective and amorphous, and is more to do with her than anything your doing.
Working to support your family is not enough. Helping around the house and with children is not enough. Having hobbies is not enough if they are icky. Nothing is ever enough. If you're gaming you could be reading. If you're reading you could be cooking. If you're cooking you could be gardegning. If you're gardening you could be learning. If you're learning you could be teaching. The only thing that's enough is if the man is never home working 3 jobs and resting only when sleeping. Though even that would probably be icky since that means the man is not good enough to support a family from just one job.
If she is ever happy, it creates an opportunity for the man to get complacent. So she keeps causing you problems to keep you stressed out, always guessing where you are at in the relationship, but always doing something for her. The relationship just becomes you working hard to make sure that she doesn't disrespect you, cheat on you, or leave you.
It is rather strange that the nagging discussed here rotates so heavily around chores and household activities. The most common form I have seen is just a spiral of criticism that jumps indiscriminately from topic to topic across virtually any avenue of life home or not. Not even tied to some division of labour, but simply as an extended expression of mood that attaches itself to virtually any action or event, feature or characteristic encountered. I don’t really understand this hierarchy of recreational activity either that is supposed to just be self evident, countless men watch their wives watch reality shows everyday and doomscroll for hours on social media or read some romance novel with the exact same plot for the 1000th time. The value assignments seem pretty arbitrary. If every possible recreation or escapism you do is deeply meaningful and enriching then none of it is, there is no room for life in that. It’s just striving everywhere with no moderation until you inevitably burn down.
This is why executives love to play golf. The sport is deliberately simple. Ball goes in hole. No pressure or anything. Take as much time as you need. Perfect after a week's worth of endless no-win scenario's and intangible decision-making.
There's no real difference between playing Silent Hill and reading a crime novel in his study yet us women will judge a man for one but not the other. Men will let a woman be. Take a long bath while listening to Enya, read trash magazines, shopping for hours. A woman refuses to just let a man be. He has to spend leisure time essentially working, improving himself or their situation. Or being aesthetic so he appears interesting. A wife is like a school teaching making you read instead of enjoying the beach. There is no amount of money, success or helping at home that will earn him the right to play video games without her silently judging him. Best thing to do is keep gaming a secret. Have a cabin with high speed connection where you go 'hunting' or are working on your imaginary novel.
@@PothePerson To men, there is no difference. Do you have any idea how evil it would be perceived for a man to demand that a woman wear fancy gowns all day? One must only consume quality stories in an aesthetic fashion?
@@PothePerson Indeed. But that's not the reality. Maybe you're coming from a good place, but in my experience, telling people only a part of how things should be, without addressing the surrounding issues can create a lot of misconstruction. You're focusing on this one issue of men's hobbies, and you're certainly correct on a large portion of it, but we live in a world right now where all these men that seem very whiny have been hit over the head repeatedly with their own masculinity. With being told they CAN'T ask anything of their women. My ex-girlfriend for instance had a near instant lash out response to me asking her to wear anything in any way, (for reference my tag line was "I think you would look really great in dresses.") And she was not your typical feminist. She was a VERY modest woman, raised Catholic. Very Conservative. It's the equivalent of telling all these men that if they never go out and flirt with a girl, they'll never get a proper wife. To a degree, you're right, but without better addressing the issues surrounding that (men having their lives ruined because of accusations, lacking in social power to combat the more or less dangerous ramifications) you come off as mean-spirited, self serving, and nearly opposite to what I think you're actually trying to do which is help our society back to a place where the divorce rates aren't absurdly high and the culture isn't broken. Apologies for the long response.
@@のむ-san Women are correct. Being a slob is weakness, therefore it is unattractive. They are biologically engineered through evolution to be attracted to strong, talented men. Once we understand this, it reveals some unflattering truths about ourselves that we would rather not think about, because it requires us to be uncomfortable. Men like to make do, it's a coping strategy, and in moderation it makes them resilient through tough times. But it can easily become a vice of comfort and complacency, the latter of which is the greatest kiss of death you can give to your relationship with your wife. You can do just about anything to your woman other than bore her. She needs to see someone who is invested in the future, and in her. And you see, you can't even accuse women of being Machiavellian on this point, it's purely her biochemistry and evolutionary pressures that have created this situation. It is hard uncaring reality. And there is nothing that men can do to change women (not without some weird eugenics program over hundreds of years, and even then, what benefit would it breed, a more dysgenic one?), so they need to instead recognise their sin, their vice, and step up. Men can have fun. Men deserve time off to decompress. But too much slobbishness, without due attentiveness and the visible shouldering of one's burdens for her to admire, will result in a building toxicity that is outside of her control, and it's your own fault for not recognising and managing it. Women do have empathy. They recognise the weakness inherent in others. They do not sympathise with it when it comes to their partner, because they expect their partner to be better than that, to be worthy of her, and to be the strong and capable provider/protector.
This need to have your partner "be impressive" just solidifies for men that unconditional love is not in the cards for us. There will be a time when the wheels fall off life, and our capacity to "be impressive" will reach zero. On top of that, the goalpost for "be impressive" is always moving. Women who require other people to be busy around them - they won't be there for you when the chips are down. "38 As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. 39 She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet listening to what he said. 40 But Martha was distracted by all the preparations that had to be made. She came to him and asked, “Lord, don’t you care that my sister has left me to do the work by myself? Tell her to help me!” 41 “Martha, Martha,” the Lord answered, “you are worried and upset about many things, 42 but few things are needed-or indeed only one.[a] Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.”"
There are obviously exceptional circumstances when women will accept their husbands being less active and less impressive, when he is sick or is going through a difficult time, even for years at a time. And studying the Bible or praying is certainly more impressive to a Christian woman than watching TV.
Nah. You are finding negativity where there is none. There is a whole world out there to fix, so a woman with that attitude is damn right. She doesn't need a child, she needs a man. Step up and shoulder the burden, or ask your mum for a key to the basement.
This was just sad to listen to. The main theme is that there is no natural respite for a man in his own house because of his wife, that if he wants respite it must be on her terms. This is basically the confirmation of wife as an antagonist of the husband.
Spending multiple hours on the sofa every day is not going to help you to lead a good life or to have a good marriage. You can be happy about that or sad about it, but it's still going to be true.
If you're willing to get into a relationship with someone who has that twisted of a perception, then match that energy by confronting them with reality.
Like I said in the video, my observations are based on what I see others complaining about regarding their marriage. The only personal experience that I draw on is in the satisfaction I get from taking care of my home and my family, and how pleased I am to see my husband taking on interesting activities in his leisure time. As there is a lot in your comment that doesn't have much to do with what I said in the video, I would suggest that you weren't really paying attention, or you have some emotional baggage that you're projecting onto what I have said.
@@PothePerson I want to point out Po that I dont disagree with your observation as far as it's a positive claim and not a normative one. I think it probably is accurate that women dont want their man to appear to them to be boring or lazy, and have a desire for his activity.
A 25 minute video repeating that whatever the man does is simple not enough, it has to be more, it has to be better. Doesn't like nagging, but is gonna tell us why it has to be done. There is nobody telling Sisyphus to do it faster, harder, with more style. So according to this video being a man in an average relationship seems a worse punishment. Perhaps a woman like that is actually insane and not worth it? Many such cases, indeed.
The interesting thing about Sisyphus is that we are not told what his mood is. Many assume that this is a punishment and that he is miserable, but he is actually pursuing a reward voluntarily and is free to give up if he wishes.
@@PothePersonSure, if we ignore the rest of the story and just focus on philosophizing a single part of it and changing its context. Until a wife tells us we are having fun doing something not useful to her and we should stop immediately.
I wasn't speaking in metaphor, I was just explaining the story of Sisyphus as I inferred from your comment that you were one of the many people who don't know the full story. Sorry if that was not the case.
I never really understood companionship as a reason to get married, but I gather that is why some people get married. People don't get married because they love the idea of marriage exactly. You're always marrying one particular person, because you're ready to commit to that one person. There's only one or two people who you'll ever meet in your life who you would ever want to be married to. Plenty of people never even meet 1.
Then nagging is really just a woman alleviating the regret of her having committed to couch potato for life. So ultimately to a man it becomes a matter of weighing how much nagging he is able to endure while playing his video games until it bothers him too much.
Man i havent listened to a video thats made marriage sound appealing in a while. I dont even think youre wrong. Just doing it solo sounds so much more appealing.
1. While I agree that a mans career doesn't make him interesting, his hobbies don't either. I think it's only the connection you have together that's interesting. 2. Learning feminine communication completely eliminates the need to nag. I recommend books by Zak Roedde. 3. My personal solution to a relaxing husband is simply to follow his lead.
My lass is a 4.01, I am very lucky. Though the concept you've hit on indirectly is Grace. It's a fundamental aspect of beauty in both sexes though traditionally wahmen were prized and even bred for it. Difficult to believe we are in the Grace Period according to Christianity, doesn't feel so. Basically the Old Testament gave a bunch of rules, but that didn't work out too well. The New Testament pointed out that you also had to assume that everyone else was at least trying to follow the rules. Innocent until proven guilty comes from this concept. The concept of interpersonal Grace. Bear in mind I have talked to Theology PhDs who either don't know and understand this, or due to their male feminist ideology choose not to understand it. So if a wahmen is nagging she's effectively saying 'You aren't doing enough'. But she doesn't know how hard you work, how mentally tiring it is or what you are dealing with. I've been in relationship where I've done almost nothing but employed work, one where I did everything bar none and several which are somewhere in between or I've been the house husband. The relationships which last, whether friendships or romantic, require grace. Being around someone who is graceless, feminists fine tune this to an art form, is a death sentence long term. Nothing you ever do is good enough and they are oh so morally superior, the master race, by dint of having a veejay. They are almost trained to be graceless, particularly by some university courses. Think about critical theory, what is it in and of itself; merely the most graceless possible interpretation of anything. No argument or point is valid as it's always racist, sexist or homophobic. Fuelled by hate and therefore completely invalid, according to the mind reader who uses CT. Take virtue signalling.. It's a way of displaying group membership in return for grace. Like a rictus smile, I fear you so I am no threat to you. We will be graceful to each other, assume the best motives, and graceless to outsiders. Tribalism. The specific example you give of a wahmen doing housework whilst a bloke plays video games shouldn't in itself be a problem in an adult relationship if in moderation. If the bills are paid, the chores are done and the kids happy then why shouldn't one of two partners relax? Trouble is there seems to be remarkably few adults in the room these days, narcissistic or graceless behaviours are lionised by both sexes. In a traditional nuclear family the dude is told that he's working full time and his missus is freeloading in some way and plotting to divorce him, take the kids, house and money to shack up with the poolboy.. The wahmen is told that she's been oppressed by having to stay home and look after the children while the lazy bum is shagging his secretary. Both are utterly graceless points of view. Men and wahmen are different. We do not understand one another, no matter how much people claim otherwise. Wahmen speak a lot more than we do and sadly a lot of what is said is either spite or thinly disguised spite. Dudes might not say as much but we all think it. Feminism has pretty much burnt down Western Culture and civilisation through being as combatively graceless as possible. Red pill is busily pissing on the smoking embers. Which, by the way, is great fun to do. If proper wahmen called out graceless behaviour in feminists and dudes called out graceless behaviour in male feminists, with proper shaming, mockery and possibly the odd stake.... All would be well. We're only just starting to get to the point where wahmen are speaking up though.
You are correct. I do not like seeing my husband playing video games while I clean. It frustrates me. That said, I have to remind myself I prefer to do the chores myself. I like the house to look a particular way. My husband cannot manage that. We are working on finding hobbies for him to engage with.
I'm so glad to hear that you have the self awareness to realize this. I grew up in a household very much like how you run it. No chore was EVER done correctly to the point I believed I was completely incompetent. Only after growing up and going to other people's homes did I learn the truth. That I actually wasn't bad at them at all, but in reality good. After a certain point you just don't care because you recognize the situation is damned if you do and damned if you don't. Why bother making the effort if in the end you will always be reprimanded, you know? It can cause resentment from one person because they believe that the individual asked to do the task is committing sabotage. You know that it's just your preferences and not some diabolical plan from your partner for you to do more work. Thank you for this, honestly.
I think the issue with this is that it doesn't account for balance. It's not just that she's doing something and he's not but that it's the time she chooses to do something. What if he's planned to watch some sports all week? He did all his work ahead of time to allow for that? Where's the communication on her part for his foresight? It's not that you're not making points that have to be considered, fair or not, because this is the way it is. When I was a kid, my mother said we as a family do all the work until the work is done. I think that rule is exactly what you are trying to convey. Get the work done together to each of your needs, so that you can both share the free time and that this way, no one feels they are being treated unfairly.
@@mapachemalditoYou're right, the state of modern man HAS declined. But if your solution is to NEVER EVER have TV, to NEVER allow rest or relaxation, then you don't hate the problems (sedentarianism, lowering testosterone, lack of philosophy, discipline, and balance) you just like fantasy novels. TV's exist. People like TV. A balance of watching TV for a rest, and doing work, and excercising CAN exist.
@@jackbishop8610 where did you read "never have a TV?" I've never had a TV personally but we do use a projector, we work on computers, have smartphones, we love movies, we love media... hell, we both work in media industries. But I would quickly lose attraction if my husband's idea of a weekend was to be a couch potato and watching other men be manly.
lol… tell me you’ve never been married for 5+ years without telling me you’ve never been married for 5+ yesrs 😂 The first story of marriage in the Bible is literally about women nagging the man incessantly
@@Witnessmoo Nothing about what you just stated confirmed that nagging is considered to moral just because it happens in the Bible. Thus, all you just did is confirm that you are ignorant of the Bible's moral teachings. Congratulations, because you just played yourself~
Stop whining and step up to the plate. Once you get used to it, it's a better, more fulfilling way of being all round. And you will have the satisfaction of achieving things in the world as well as the love of a good woman.
@@rocketpig1914 You cut your balls off and you shame us for not doing it too? Are you happy, or are you trapped in a lonely situation. If something is good, it should be self-evident. It should not need to be pushed aggressively.
Spot on. Ive lived on the couch nest, and I've watched the attraction slowly fade from my SO's eyes over time. I wish this lesson was taught in school.
I love how gently savage Po can be sometimes. When my fiancé and I catch each other doom scrolling we ask each other if we could be doing something better.
Once when discussing nagging and how nasty it can be, a wise friend explained that women feel the need to be seen as nice, so in order to get rid of all that pent up anger and annoyance they need a lightning rod, usually their husband. I found it worked for me to visualise it that way and subsequently I was able to consider what may have occurred in her day that brought about a bout of nagging. However, at other times it is purely because she thinks I'm loafing.
@SinningInHell I can assure you that neither of us ever beat up our wives, although I'm not doubting that it happened, and is still happening in certain communities. Are you speaking from experience?
I lost my wife who I love more than I know how to express, in part because of what you are describing. When I think of the beauty of the person I knew, and the love, dedication and admiration I had for her character, I catch my breath at the thought of losing her, as I always lose her again. And yet, the cost of keeping a bird of "such rarest spun metal," is less like the plight of Sisyphus-since Sisyphus can be imagined happy-and more that of Prometheus. One cannot imagine Prometheus happy. I think of the raging Furies every time I think of Feminist Frequency or the prohibitionists. Always, there are embattled harpies prodding men away from Dionysian pleasure and toward a warlike state. Can the prescription really be so basic as women hate seeing men so easily pleased and entertained? I'm not proud to admit this, but I frequently return to the thought that maybe Islam has some wisdom to offer in its treatment of women. But of course, I always shake off the thought. Of course women are better off liberated, equal and angry. Right?
Frankly the source of the issue seems to originate in the lack of communication. Either there is a failure to engage in communicating with their spouse when an issue initially arises or there is an issue of engaging in hostile communication/response. "A soft word turns away wrath" a gentle response or request can often be the end of the issue before it even becomes one.
Generally, whatever they are nagging about is something they want and it all centers around them. It’s a reaction based in narcissism and her desire to have her wants satisfied. Even at the expense of someone else’s desires or wants.
"you could be learning an instrument, forming a band, learning a language... [get more than] one or two media sources you consume" This is actually infuriating and I've had this argument so many times with exes. White collar workers (like yourself) do not understand hard work. Physical jobs make you tired. Tiredness comes home with you. It isn't that men don't want more from life, we do, but we have to make a trade off between having money for a family which makes you vegetable, or having no money, no family and time for recreation. This means rest becomes important. Sitting still and zoning out is literally essential when you've been lifting hundreds of concrete blocks all day with a 30 minute break, and have to do it another four days following. Women don't understand this sacrifice at all. The sacrifice that at age 40 you're going to get arthritis but she wants to go to the theatre on Wednesday at 8pm. Remember that most men don't get better educations than women anymore - they're in competition with women for money and consequently, leisure time. The middle class is shrinking, and most men have to be content with finding a niche using their physical bodies. It takes so much effort to make more than the minimum wage nowadays without a degree, and even intelligent women like you will still rag us for more. If you all dropped out of the labour force salaries would go up 50% and we could get middle class jobs with spare time to take you out for culture.
I understand that not all of what I've said here will apply to men who do manual work, but men with white-collar jobs are still complaining about being nagged and getting "no peace" at home. Everything you say about women in the workforce I agree with completely. If women could afford to stay home and take care of all their housework, they would probably not get as stressed about their homes and would be less inclined to nag their husbands.
@@PothePerson I suppose men in the middle class who make decent earnings have no excuse. My fault is trying to date above my education level so that's why I'm sensitive. Work is entirely optional to women and they project that onto men as if we chose to do what we do. Like, do you really think I picked building houses instead of being a chartered surveyor? I still love femininity. Bless them.
They don't need to anymore, that's the sad reality. They don't need to sympathise. The mentality is that someone else could do this job. If you're worth it, you'd be working smarter, earning more etc., not harder. The midwit weakling earns £80k a year in a make work job. She earns £40k working in marketing. This is the painful reality of the white and blue collar divide.
I don't understand this logic, of a blue collar man being too tired to do housework, yard work or take their wives out to dinner etc. At least with the housework & yard work, you'd have to do it anyway whether your spouse told you to do it not, whether you were married or not. So like how is it okay to NOT do it just because you have a manual labor job? Manual labor, white collar work, whichever, the things still need done. Did you just date/marry her to take care of you and do the things you don't want to do but would have to do yourself if not married? I'm actually asking in good-faith as someone currently married to a blue collar man.
@@kristapedia Have you seen the meme of a guy sat in an empty room? Men buy houses and yards for women and families. If we're committed to single life we downsize accordingly.
"Homemaking and your kids have to kindof be your hobby, if you are to stay sane as a married woman." I have been thinking about this since this video came out. It really hit me hard. Lol first I was just so sad because I feel like I used to have "real" hobbies. But you're absolutely right, I mean I have a 3-year-old and an 8-month-old, So basically I just need to adopt that statement with a positive frame of mind and be grateful. I am really so fortunate even if it does feel like a lot of work at times.
I know it's kind of sad, but you don't have to give up all your hobbies. And when your children are older there is plenty of time to get back into the things you don't have time for now.
The state of marriage in general is very artificial and a somewhat modern construct, that doesn't reflect the natural bonding and child rearing dynamic of our ancestors. For example, do we know that throughout human history, a single male and female inhabited the same exclusive living space, as opposed to living and working in separate areas, as groups? Because if they didn't share the same living spaces, nagging largely couldn't occur because in the past the sexes would have far less time to even see one another, and thus they would maximize for quality time when they do get a chance to be around one another. And also, everyone would be applying social pressure to ensure that everyone else is conforming to certain standards, and thus nagging would be coming top down from the elders, and not necessarily from the mother of the children. Due to the modern privacy culture, the modern woman may feel that she needs to play the part that an entire group would have fulfilled in the past, because there's no one else in a position to apply social pressure to either the man or woman. Also, did women of the past even have leverage to tell a man what to do? I mean, if the man has already reproduced with the woman, he's already achieved what he wanted, which was to acquire sex. She is now beholden to him, because she wants to extract resources from his labor, and also get his protection, and it's up to him whether or not, or to what level he's willing to provide the provision and protection. So I guess what I'm saying is that the man would have dictated virtually everything. The woman wouldn't have had leverage, and thus, if she felt that she needed to nag him, she would have done so when only absolutely necessary. Women these days have far far more leverage in relationships, because they have so many mechanisms to circumvent the need for a man. The government and family court system are basically the man, because they can provide financial support, or extract financial support from the man by force.
Don't worry about being sexist. Existing as a member of a sex is an inescapable component of the human experience. We need to normalize sexism and take the word sexist back.
Thank you cor this. It makes complete sense. This is so enlightening. The point of a break is to relax and purposely doing something that isn't performative and as such not impressive. I really wish I had gotten married young. There is no way I will get married now that I no longer put the other sex on a pedestal. The point of getting married would have been to relax. To stop having to perform and try to impress all the time. That would have been the whole point. Single for life.
It helps a lot to aliviate the stress of this situation if you're fortunate enough to have a spacious house which provides you with your own space away from your partner. These days, a room for the man of the house is called a man cave, but used to be a study. Either way, it's just a space where the man can put his own music, computer games and so on, and can go to get his relaxation without his wife having to see it. This only works however if you allow each other to have their own space and not intrude on it. But could you imagine in this day and age, actually telling your wife not to come in your study whilst you're using it? Even if you are fortunate enough to have a large enough property to afford a space of your own, your partner would still come in if she wants attention, and so the problem just gets moved to another room.
Yup, I struggle with this myself working two jobs. I feel like I’m boring and my whole life is work, but when I’ve wound down and finished chores I just don’t have the patience to engage in the hobbies that are interesting. It’s kind of shit 🤣
I love taking care of the house. Great opportunity to churn through my audiobooks I can do it all day eveyr day. It's just that women don't consider the idea of a stay at home partner very appealing and somehow need her partner to be busy on his career while she's girl bossing her own career. And I'm not faulting them for that, that's what they want in a man then that's fine. It's just that then you enter in to a situation where you both work, and where you both divide the chores over each other's depleted energy. That's not a very satisfying way to live together.
It's similar to Andrew Huberman and David Goggins who speak about motivation and the discipline to exercise several hours per day. All these two men do all day is pursue a fitness lifestyle and then talk about it on their podcast. To me they're not different than two Fortnite streamers talking about Fortnite on their stream. Exercise is fun. Doing chores is fun. That's the easy part of living. Being stressed out of your mind because your manager is breathing down your neck about deadlines and targets, that's the not fun part of living. I''ll gladly trade that life force draining part of my day for waking up well-rested, frolicking through my house or the gym without all these background processes running in the back of my mind.
15:36 I’m calling “BS”! She had enough time to video herself from several angles! And we don’t even know if she set up the camera or did the editing by herself! 😜
The funny thing about this is that the relationship between wife and husband is the same as between army and commander: ask yourself men, would you be inspired to follow a commander into that is often covered in cheetos watching tv?
I am not entirely convinced. It certainly does have some truth to it, women seek mates that they will perceive as being in their rang or higher. I remember Gad Saad suggesting that this change in perception is probably main driver of divorce. But I am not sure it is the whole story. If you look at old movies made by people who grew up in times before TV conquered homes and video games were the thing, or more recent ones before internet and when video games were limited to kids ... you still see women there nagging: Why are you spending so much time with your friends /With your car/ Fishing/ Making models/ Bawling etc. One option is that women then also saw those activities as undesirable. I remember Carl reading some story about Robin Hood (or was it king Arthur?) in which hero has to find out what is that women really want. Some grany reveals that it is that women always want for men to look at them as if they just met, to woo them., to constantly feel special Why? It is basically way to control them. It is funny how women see such male behaviour as infantile, while men see female attention seeking as infantile.
I posted this on 15th minute. 3 minutes later Po: "if you are not constantly trying to impress your wife, marriage is not for you". Who ever wrote story Carl read is smiling in afterlife.
There is a lot of truth in that story. I think this might be one reason why women might be tempted to cheat, when another man is wooing her, going to much more trouble to win her affection than her husband is. Obviously she is still very much at fault. I'm only explaining why cheating is a temptation for a woman, even when her husband is a good man.
I think this can be answered with an understanding of masculine and feminine in a broader sense. The masculine role is expansive, outward looking. In a literal sense, this can mean finding new land, engaging and conquering an external force, and so on. The feminine is inward looking. It is the immediate, the social, concerned with the home environment, the ties between the group, and so on. For a social group to function, both need to be in harmony. In the last 100 years or so, there has been almost nowhere else to expand in to - especially in the literal sense - and therefore the masculine role has all but disappeared. If men are not engaging in the masculine role - that is, competing with external forces, both hardening themselves in the process and gaining reward for victories - then the feminine steps up and takes the dominant role. This means internal competition is instigated by the feminine, through psychological and status games. Again, this competition leads to victory and gains for the winners of this internal competition - although it is not necessarily good for the group, especially not in the long run. You can see evidence of this every Saturday night, outside a nightclub or takeaway, albeit in a very small and crude way. The obvious point to make is that no group has ever really stood the test of time once this role swap takes place.
Freud wrote something about this as well. How a society turns towards narcissism and becomes inward looking once a level of security and stability is achieved. Wimmin instigate verbal conflict out of a desire for a decisive outcome or evidence of success. If there is no evidence of progression or success - e.g. a new car, house, holiday; all things that people value as they age and compare themselves to peers - then nagging is effectively a stress test of a man's capabilities. It's also a way of unloading pent up emotions, which less mature/developed people will do, often because their parents did the same.
my mum nags because it's a non-confrontational way of trying to force something. instead of dominance it uses "I'm the subordinate party so I'll be non-aggressively annoying until you can't put up with it anymore". it's just an effective strategy when you don't have the authority to command things
The thing that she is nagging you about isn't the real problem. Women never say what they really mean. Basically, she wants to live in a romance novel and feel like she is the centre of your world. The nagging is simply a sign that you aren't living up to your role in her love story. Carl (Sargon) did a good segment on the podcast of the lotus eaters about this and I think it has a lot of truth to it. It's not the whole reason, but I do think it is a major factor.
@@PothePerson I think that you are onto something here, though, for sure. It is the perceived inequality of the distribution of chores, plus the lack of engagement with her. I found that my mother always complained that we men didn't help enough, but whenever we offered it invariably either wasn't a good time or she wanted to do it herself because she didn't trust us to do it to her satisfaction. It was more that she felt unappreciated and taken for granted as much as anything else. Being seen to make an effort to consider her and what she would like is usually the underlying thing that she wants you to address. The trouble with guys is that they kinda disassociate, they switch off their brain for a bit. Women can't switch off like that so easily, so they perceive it as laziness (which it can be, but isn't always, sometimes it's a strategy to cope with stress, as men bottle up their emotions while women have a good cry) and laziness isn't attractive, like you say. Surprising your woman with nice things to remind her that you care is important, given that men are not super neurotic and don't feel the need to constantly show positive reinforcement. We just assume that once something is established through reasoned discussion (i.e. "I love you"), it is considered to be true until otherwise noted. Women's brains don't work that way. One wise man once said: "You can do anything to your woman as long as you don't bore her." Which, while hyperbolic, does convey the essence of the psychology at play. Many women will unfortunately put up with all sorts of things, because dark triad is sexy. But by god, do something to keep her interested. Being ignored is not something that a woman can take.
Only 43 minutes late, me when my mother sings obtusely! Please God rent my backbone in twain! Edit: 09:50 Bruh mothers hold it even if you ask for it. It is because it contains baby stuff.
It's sad this video needed to be made. I think every grandpa and grandma (or in this day grand-grand-ma/pa) knows this but probably couldn't put into words. But if you had contacts with your grand(grand)parents, when you were growing up, and they were not boomers, but just a little (generation) older, they would be "nudging" you into this direction, either by example (help your grandpa/ma), or by "grandpa/ma talk." When I was young, I remember when I helped to stack wood for winter. I was so little. And I remember we were stacking until grandma made dinner. It was very important SHE would interrupt. (edit: not interrupt, but finish first.) I didn't understand why, little 6y old me. [2nd comment, meant to be taken seriously]
I understand. You well explained that women nag only because their preferences in choices in balance between work and leisure are correct. Men's are not, that obvious because those are not like women's. Men want their woman to be. Women want their man to do.
There is no asking "why" with aesthetics. Reading is associated with intelligence and wisdom. Video games are associated with little boys and angry teenagers.
@@PothePerson >Reading is associated with intelligence and wisdom. Video games are associated with little boys and angry teenagers. My original assumption of the video game/male hobby question was simply that the only hobbies (that specifically aren't shared together, video games suddenly become a lot more tolerable when they're played together as you mention in the video) women will find attractive are the hobbies which increase her status or increase her access to resources. If she can't directly consume the fruits of the hobby or brag to her friends about it, it will be a waste of time from her perspective and this reply is more in line with that assumption. The video seemed to frame the hobby question as a matter of passivity/activity, or at least that was my reading of it. >There is no asking "why" with aesthetics. I could not disagree more strongly with this. Anyway, thanks for the response.
Po reported what other women self-reported, but that will never give a complete picture of the phenomenon. For example how does the amount of nagging change when the husbands change the way they relax?
This hypothetical solution to the nagging will not fix it. There are probably just unknown incompatibilities between those people they weren't aware of when they were getting into a relationship. Many people have relationships for the wrong reasons, that is the problem. None of this advice to fix it would be needed if they were aware to begin with. Men have a journey to their full potential they will rarely meet but I can't imagine a womans nagging will inspire them towards that direction.
Consider: What if you play the video games together? Jokes aside, you can put this issue in even simpler terms when you view it from a spiritual perspective. Masculinity is about initiative. Taking the first step. Doing things without being prompted to do them by someone else. I feel like at the stage of nagging, you have already disappointed your woman with a lack of initiative. It also low key gives away your agency of deciding what you want to take initiative on, instead you are told what you should be doing. And then that may make you as resentful as she is. Of course in all of this, affording the other person some slack in these matters is probably a good idea. We all have days in which we can't quite keep up. I think the important thing is not letting it become a habit.
Not sure i agree that "masculinity is taking the initiative" in things that are often nagged about. Take for example when the washing up is done after a meal. If one person wants it done straight away and the other person has decided to do the washing up in 90 minutes time, then isn't the solution not to nag but for the person who wants the instant gratification to do the washing up straight away and not take it out or blame the other person for being evolved beyond the need for instant gratification? Even worse if the person complains about lack of communication when he or she prioritises washing up over sitting with reach other and talking each and every day.
Great video, heckin nuanced. It is true that men are generally more comfortable with an environment that is infrequently cleaned - but if this causes them to be resented by their wives for being lazy, they need up, out of the house, go hang out with friends or meet new people, get a cooler hobby.
NO. You're wrong. Watch Red Pill podcasts. Fresh and Fit, Whatever, .... This video: everything you would expect from a woman. [1. comment. not to be taken seriously.]
It depends on how hard the man works at work compared to the woman. It's contextual. But certainly I can see why women perceive it that way even if the man is working a lot. Part of the issue is that both men and women have day jobs, which forces the woman to do more than before, and the man is just doing what is traditional for him without realising how much more he needs to step up.
Absolutely right. Women should expect their partner to pull their weight. It's pretty simple: you are a team and all team members should pull equally or there will be problems. And pulling equally doesn't mean doing the same things: in fact the whole damn point there are two sexes is evolution exploiting the benefits of specialisation millennia before Adam Smith.
As a woman I found this so uplifting, I am so glad I married a high value man who is productive, generous, interesting and aesthetic. But always surprised at the doomer comments you get.
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Why the move?
I'm excited for it's return, Po!
I'm reminded of the Reginald D. Hunter joke: "Women hate in men everything that they love in cats."
Solution: Find a woman who likes dogs.
Women nag just to check if you are weak enough to put up with it. It's an unconscious vetting process. If you allow it, then she'll despise you, treat you as a cash cow and cheat on you with somebody that won't put up with her s***. This is how life works and for good reason. Be strong and both your lives will improve.
05:27 That "besty wake up" quote says it all. Hard faced ball breaker that can't find love, whispering in her friend's ear to screw up her relationships as well.
They're just not worth it, lads
Not everyone is up to it
@@PothePerson no like he said you're not worth it. I see why women had to be a " oppressed " y'all just demotivate men😂 when left to your own devices
Lol I just looked up Crufts and the judge looks exactly like Academic Agent.
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@@richardcrook2112 It's not about ignoring it deliberately. That's just oafish behaviour. It's about having an adult relationship, responding to reasonable criticism, and politely rebuffing undeserved criticism.
@@rocketpig1914 Your thinking like a bloke, women aren't like that. It's all about how they feel, reasonable criticism and rational rebuttal don't exist in that world. This can't be overstated.
It's funny to see the comment about a woman 'perceiving' a man as working less hard than she is because in my experience many ladies often overestimate how much work they've actually done and how hard the work was. Taking a longer time to do a task isn't working harder, in fact it's likely the opposite. It reminds me of the 'Everybody Hates Chris' episode where the dad stays at home and does the chores for a bit whilst between jobs.
The fact is though that men often need a little nagging just to notice a 'problem' because men are far more easily contented than women. They generally can happily live in worse conditions, with less stuff, less socialisation and less entertainment. A hard days work will only make them less bothered by their surroundings. Of course this isn't great for children.
There is always a perception bias when anyone has to estimate how much work they have done compared to someone else.
Is there? I've had male roommates and we all had a broadly accurate idea of how much effort was being put in.
@@IVIaskerade Yes there is always perception bias. You probably think you are a good person even though the device you are commenting with was manufactured by Chinese slave children.
I have a roomba, a dishwasher, a washing machine, a tumble dryer... Heck, even my oven is self cleaning. It ain't 1845.
If you're in a band, they'll want to to get serious about your life. If you're too serious about your life, they'll want you to be a fun guy in a band. A woman married Alex Jones and then divorced him later for acting like Alex Jones. Women dont know what they want.
This is a matter of desire and necessity. The state and the job market affords freedom and opportunity that was previously impossible. If you want it all, and want it now, then remove the obstacle. This is the logic, and it's hard to argue with it. If you have more to gain through change, then why stay? Why not sample all the fruits of the forest when there is zero social and limited personal consequence? Why not try to see what else is out there, and whether the grass is greener on the other side?
@@Mr___XSample all the fruits of the forest, lol that's called being a massive slag.
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@@Mr___Xit's hard to argue with it? Are you serious? There is no having it all. It's egoistic delusion that usually comes back to bite people massively when their expiration date hits or they have burned all the bridges.
Women don't think like Jordan Peterson. There's no objective level you have to reach, fulfilling various specifications and then your deemed good enough to have children with. It's all highly subjective and amorphous, and is more to do with her than anything your doing.
Working to support your family is not enough.
Helping around the house and with children is not enough.
Having hobbies is not enough if they are icky.
Nothing is ever enough.
If you're gaming you could be reading.
If you're reading you could be cooking.
If you're cooking you could be gardegning.
If you're gardening you could be learning.
If you're learning you could be teaching.
The only thing that's enough is if the man is never home working 3 jobs and resting only when sleeping.
Though even that would probably be icky since that means the man is not good enough to support a family from just one job.
Then she will bend you over and break it off in divorce court because you “weren’t emotionally available”.
If she is ever happy, it creates an opportunity for the man to get complacent. So she keeps causing you problems to keep you stressed out, always guessing where you are at in the relationship, but always doing something for her. The relationship just becomes you working hard to make sure that she doesn't disrespect you, cheat on you, or leave you.
Then he's not attentive.
It is rather strange that the nagging discussed here rotates so heavily around chores and household activities. The most common form I have seen is just a spiral of criticism that jumps indiscriminately from topic to topic across virtually any avenue of life home or not. Not even tied to some division of labour, but simply as an extended expression of mood that attaches itself to virtually any action or event, feature or characteristic encountered.
I don’t really understand this hierarchy of recreational activity either that is supposed to just be self evident, countless men watch their wives watch reality shows everyday and doomscroll for hours on social media or read some romance novel with the exact same plot for the 1000th time. The value assignments seem pretty arbitrary.
If every possible recreation or escapism you do is deeply meaningful and enriching then none of it is, there is no room for life in that. It’s just striving everywhere with no moderation until you inevitably burn down.
This is why executives love to play golf. The sport is deliberately simple. Ball goes in hole. No pressure or anything. Take as much time as you need. Perfect after a week's worth of endless no-win scenario's and intangible decision-making.
There's no real difference between playing Silent Hill and reading a crime novel in his study yet us women will judge a man for one but not the other.
Men will let a woman be. Take a long bath while listening to Enya, read trash magazines, shopping for hours. A woman refuses to just let a man be. He has to spend leisure time essentially working, improving himself or their situation. Or being aesthetic so he appears interesting.
A wife is like a school teaching making you read instead of enjoying the beach.
There is no amount of money, success or helping at home that will earn him the right to play video games without her silently judging him.
Best thing to do is keep gaming a secret. Have a cabin with high speed connection where you go 'hunting' or are working on your imaginary novel.
That's a bit like saying there is no difference between wearing a hoodie and wearing an evening gown.
@@PothePersonthe ones who don't understand the distinction are mentally boys, not men.
@@PothePerson To men, there is no difference. Do you have any idea how evil it would be perceived for a man to demand that a woman wear fancy gowns all day? One must only consume quality stories in an aesthetic fashion?
It would be unwise for a woman to choose her clothing without any regard for what her husband thinks of how she looks. Do you not agree?
@@PothePerson Indeed. But that's not the reality. Maybe you're coming from a good place, but in my experience, telling people only a part of how things should be, without addressing the surrounding issues can create a lot of misconstruction.
You're focusing on this one issue of men's hobbies, and you're certainly correct on a large portion of it, but we live in a world right now where all these men that seem very whiny have been hit over the head repeatedly with their own masculinity. With being told they CAN'T ask anything of their women.
My ex-girlfriend for instance had a near instant lash out response to me asking her to wear anything in any way, (for reference my tag line was "I think you would look really great in dresses.") And she was not your typical feminist. She was a VERY modest woman, raised Catholic. Very Conservative.
It's the equivalent of telling all these men that if they never go out and flirt with a girl, they'll never get a proper wife. To a degree, you're right, but without better addressing the issues surrounding that (men having their lives ruined because of accusations, lacking in social power to combat the more or less dangerous ramifications) you come off as mean-spirited, self serving, and nearly opposite to what I think you're actually trying to do which is help our society back to a place where the divorce rates aren't absurdly high and the culture isn't broken.
Apologies for the long response.
The myth of female empathy😂
There's a difference between empathy and sympathy.
@@Capt.Thunder wasn't the argument but okay
@@のむ-san Women are correct. Being a slob is weakness, therefore it is unattractive. They are biologically engineered through evolution to be attracted to strong, talented men. Once we understand this, it reveals some unflattering truths about ourselves that we would rather not think about, because it requires us to be uncomfortable.
Men like to make do, it's a coping strategy, and in moderation it makes them resilient through tough times. But it can easily become a vice of comfort and complacency, the latter of which is the greatest kiss of death you can give to your relationship with your wife.
You can do just about anything to your woman other than bore her. She needs to see someone who is invested in the future, and in her.
And you see, you can't even accuse women of being Machiavellian on this point, it's purely her biochemistry and evolutionary pressures that have created this situation. It is hard uncaring reality. And there is nothing that men can do to change women (not without some weird eugenics program over hundreds of years, and even then, what benefit would it breed, a more dysgenic one?), so they need to instead recognise their sin, their vice, and step up.
Men can have fun. Men deserve time off to decompress. But too much slobbishness, without due attentiveness and the visible shouldering of one's burdens for her to admire, will result in a building toxicity that is outside of her control, and it's your own fault for not recognising and managing it.
Women do have empathy. They recognise the weakness inherent in others. They do not sympathise with it when it comes to their partner, because they expect their partner to be better than that, to be worthy of her, and to be the strong and capable provider/protector.
This need to have your partner "be impressive" just solidifies for men that unconditional love is not in the cards for us. There will be a time when the wheels fall off life, and our capacity to "be impressive" will reach zero. On top of that, the goalpost for "be impressive" is always moving. Women who require other people to be busy around them - they won't be there for you when the chips are down.
"38 As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. 39 She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet listening to what he said. 40 But Martha was distracted by all the preparations that had to be made. She came to him and asked, “Lord, don’t you care that my sister has left me to do the work by myself? Tell her to help me!”
41 “Martha, Martha,” the Lord answered, “you are worried and upset about many things, 42 but few things are needed-or indeed only one.[a] Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.”"
There are obviously exceptional circumstances when women will accept their husbands being less active and less impressive, when he is sick or is going through a difficult time, even for years at a time.
And studying the Bible or praying is certainly more impressive to a Christian woman than watching TV.
Nah. You are finding negativity where there is none. There is a whole world out there to fix, so a woman with that attitude is damn right. She doesn't need a child, she needs a man. Step up and shoulder the burden, or ask your mum for a key to the basement.
@@rocketpig1914and get what in return? Slavery? Piss off with your 'man up' shaming.
unconditional love is for mother to their babies. it would be wrong for a wife to love her husband unconditionally
@@mapachemaldito and yet so many of them can't even manage that
This was just sad to listen to. The main theme is that there is no natural respite for a man in his own house because of his wife, that if he wants respite it must be on her terms. This is basically the confirmation of wife as an antagonist of the husband.
Spending multiple hours on the sofa every day is not going to help you to lead a good life or to have a good marriage. You can be happy about that or sad about it, but it's still going to be true.
If you're willing to get into a relationship with someone who has that twisted of a perception, then match that energy by confronting them with reality.
Like I said in the video, my observations are based on what I see others complaining about regarding their marriage.
The only personal experience that I draw on is in the satisfaction I get from taking care of my home and my family, and how pleased I am to see my husband taking on interesting activities in his leisure time.
As there is a lot in your comment that doesn't have much to do with what I said in the video, I would suggest that you weren't really paying attention, or you have some emotional baggage that you're projecting onto what I have said.
@@PothePerson I want to point out Po that I dont disagree with your observation as far as it's a positive claim and not a normative one. I think it probably is accurate that women dont want their man to appear to them to be boring or lazy, and have a desire for his activity.
@kyrman sorry, my reply wasn't directed towards you. I should have been more careful to @ the right person
A 25 minute video repeating that whatever the man does is simple not enough, it has to be more, it has to be better. Doesn't like nagging, but is gonna tell us why it has to be done. There is nobody telling Sisyphus to do it faster, harder, with more style. So according to this video being a man in an average relationship seems a worse punishment. Perhaps a woman like that is actually insane and not worth it? Many such cases, indeed.
The interesting thing about Sisyphus is that we are not told what his mood is. Many assume that this is a punishment and that he is miserable, but he is actually pursuing a reward voluntarily and is free to give up if he wishes.
@@PothePersonSure, if we ignore the rest of the story and just focus on philosophizing a single part of it and changing its context. Until a wife tells us we are having fun doing something not useful to her and we should stop immediately.
I wasn't speaking in metaphor, I was just explaining the story of Sisyphus as I inferred from your comment that you were one of the many people who don't know the full story. Sorry if that was not the case.
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You're generating alot of conversation with this video
There can never be peace.
Not while there is work to be done.
@@rocketpig1914 which is never.
@@EFCasual not legally no
"Boy, isnt nagging terrible guys?"
proceeds to nag for 25 minutes
You don't have to watch it. Most viewers will be gone within the first 10 minutes.
@@PothePersonI wouldnt have made the comment if I hadnt watched all of it.
Sounds to me like marriage just isn't worth it
Depends on what you think you can get out of it, and what your other options are
But what does a man get out of it? The companionship of someone who is disgusted by the sight of him laying on the couch?
I never really understood companionship as a reason to get married, but I gather that is why some people get married.
People don't get married because they love the idea of marriage exactly. You're always marrying one particular person, because you're ready to commit to that one person. There's only one or two people who you'll ever meet in your life who you would ever want to be married to. Plenty of people never even meet 1.
Then nagging is really just a woman alleviating the regret of her having committed to couch potato for life. So ultimately to a man it becomes a matter of weighing how much nagging he is able to endure while playing his video games until it bothers him too much.
Woman to her husband: "Get a more interesting hobby." More totalitarian words were never spoken.
Man i havent listened to a video thats made marriage sound appealing in a while. I dont even think youre wrong. Just doing it solo sounds so much more appealing.
Just find a good partner. It's easier and more fulfilling to have two people pulling the cart: they just need to be pulling in the same direction.
@@rocketpig1914You still trying to gaslight men into one sided business deals😂
@@のむ-san Try reading again, real slow. No rush.
@@rocketpig1914'just find a good partner' jfc. How tone deaf are you.
@@rocketpig1914 I love cooking, I love cleaning my own home. There is no cart that needs pulling.
1. While I agree that a mans career doesn't make him interesting, his hobbies don't either. I think it's only the connection you have together that's interesting.
2. Learning feminine communication completely eliminates the need to nag. I recommend books by Zak Roedde.
3. My personal solution to a relaxing husband is simply to follow his lead.
My lass is a 4.01, I am very lucky. Though the concept you've hit on indirectly is Grace. It's a fundamental aspect of beauty in both sexes though traditionally wahmen were prized and even bred for it. Difficult to believe we are in the Grace Period according to Christianity, doesn't feel so. Basically the Old Testament gave a bunch of rules, but that didn't work out too well. The New Testament pointed out that you also had to assume that everyone else was at least trying to follow the rules. Innocent until proven guilty comes from this concept. The concept of interpersonal Grace. Bear in mind I have talked to Theology PhDs who either don't know and understand this, or due to their male feminist ideology choose not to understand it.
So if a wahmen is nagging she's effectively saying 'You aren't doing enough'. But she doesn't know how hard you work, how mentally tiring it is or what you are dealing with. I've been in relationship where I've done almost nothing but employed work, one where I did everything bar none and several which are somewhere in between or I've been the house husband. The relationships which last, whether friendships or romantic, require grace.
Being around someone who is graceless, feminists fine tune this to an art form, is a death sentence long term. Nothing you ever do is good enough and they are oh so morally superior, the master race, by dint of having a veejay. They are almost trained to be graceless, particularly by some university courses. Think about critical theory, what is it in and of itself; merely the most graceless possible interpretation of anything. No argument or point is valid as it's always racist, sexist or homophobic. Fuelled by hate and therefore completely invalid, according to the mind reader who uses CT.
Take virtue signalling.. It's a way of displaying group membership in return for grace. Like a rictus smile, I fear you so I am no threat to you. We will be graceful to each other, assume the best motives, and graceless to outsiders. Tribalism.
The specific example you give of a wahmen doing housework whilst a bloke plays video games shouldn't in itself be a problem in an adult relationship if in moderation. If the bills are paid, the chores are done and the kids happy then why shouldn't one of two partners relax? Trouble is there seems to be remarkably few adults in the room these days, narcissistic or graceless behaviours are lionised by both sexes.
In a traditional nuclear family the dude is told that he's working full time and his missus is freeloading in some way and plotting to divorce him, take the kids, house and money to shack up with the poolboy.. The wahmen is told that she's been oppressed by having to stay home and look after the children while the lazy bum is shagging his secretary. Both are utterly graceless points of view.
Men and wahmen are different. We do not understand one another, no matter how much people claim otherwise. Wahmen speak a lot more than we do and sadly a lot of what is said is either spite or thinly disguised spite. Dudes might not say as much but we all think it. Feminism has pretty much burnt down Western Culture and civilisation through being as combatively graceless as possible. Red pill is busily pissing on the smoking embers. Which, by the way, is great fun to do.
If proper wahmen called out graceless behaviour in feminists and dudes called out graceless behaviour in male feminists, with proper shaming, mockery and possibly the odd stake.... All would be well. We're only just starting to get to the point where wahmen are speaking up though.
Sounds like the juice ain't worth the squeeze
You are correct. I do not like seeing my husband playing video games while I clean. It frustrates me. That said, I have to remind myself I prefer to do the chores myself. I like the house to look a particular way. My husband cannot manage that. We are working on finding hobbies for him to engage with.
I'm so glad to hear that you have the self awareness to realize this. I grew up in a household very much like how you run it. No chore was EVER done correctly to the point I believed I was completely incompetent.
Only after growing up and going to other people's homes did I learn the truth. That I actually wasn't bad at them at all, but in reality good.
After a certain point you just don't care because you recognize the situation is damned if you do and damned if you don't. Why bother making the effort if in the end you will always be reprimanded, you know?
It can cause resentment from one person because they believe that the individual asked to do the task is committing sabotage.
You know that it's just your preferences and not some diabolical plan from your partner for you to do more work. Thank you for this, honestly.
Not all men are like that x
@@reidycruise Men are not a monolith.
@@aaronarhelm9113 they are to there children x
I think the issue with this is that it doesn't account for balance. It's not just that she's doing something and he's not but that it's the time she chooses to do something. What if he's planned to watch some sports all week? He did all his work ahead of time to allow for that? Where's the communication on her part for his foresight? It's not that you're not making points that have to be considered, fair or not, because this is the way it is. When I was a kid, my mother said we as a family do all the work until the work is done. I think that rule is exactly what you are trying to convey. Get the work done together to each of your needs, so that you can both share the free time and that this way, no one feels they are being treated unfairly.
it's so depressing that your example is to stay in and watch tv all week 😢 the state of modern man has really declined
@@mapachemaldito "modern Man" you holes are just hurt cuz we see you clearly
@@mapachemaldito far healthier than drinking at the pub as Po suggested for an alternative.
@@mapachemalditoYou're right, the state of modern man HAS declined. But if your solution is to NEVER EVER have TV, to NEVER allow rest or relaxation, then you don't hate the problems (sedentarianism, lowering testosterone, lack of philosophy, discipline, and balance) you just like fantasy novels. TV's exist. People like TV. A balance of watching TV for a rest, and doing work, and excercising CAN exist.
@@jackbishop8610 where did you read "never have a TV?" I've never had a TV personally but we do use a projector, we work on computers, have smartphones, we love movies, we love media... hell, we both work in media industries. But I would quickly lose attraction if my husband's idea of a weekend was to be a couch potato and watching other men be manly.
Nagging is a blatant sign of disrespect and no successful husband who is based within stable principle would tolerate this action from his wife.
lol… tell me you’ve never been married for 5+ years without telling me you’ve never been married for 5+ yesrs 😂
The first story of marriage in the Bible is literally about women nagging the man incessantly
@@Witnessmoo Nothing about what you just stated confirmed that nagging is considered to moral just because it happens in the Bible.
Thus, all you just did is confirm that you are ignorant of the Bible's moral teachings.
Congratulations, because you just played yourself~
@@Witnessmooand as a result the fall of mankind happened, are you trying to prove his point here?
Here is Po, trying to drive down the marriage rates even more.
😂😂😂
It’s just not worth it, is it?
No, but they really want you to think it is😂
Stop whining and step up to the plate. Once you get used to it, it's a better, more fulfilling way of being all round. And you will have the satisfaction of achieving things in the world as well as the love of a good woman.
@@rocketpig1914 no, it's not worth it but shut up and do it anyway😂 You can't make this s*** up
@@のむ-san Try reading the comment again. Don't be afraid to say the words aloud or use your finger to keep your place if it helps you understand.
@@rocketpig1914 You cut your balls off and you shame us for not doing it too? Are you happy, or are you trapped in a lonely situation. If something is good, it should be self-evident. It should not need to be pushed aggressively.
Lads, get a shack or a basement or somewhere she either doesn't know about, or is explicitly forbidden to go to when you are there.
"I want! I want! I want!" - women's evolutionary strategy
"I want! I want! I want!" - women's domestic strategy
"Yes, honey" - men's strategy
Spot on. Ive lived on the couch nest, and I've watched the attraction slowly fade from my SO's eyes over time.
I wish this lesson was taught in school.
I love how gently savage Po can be sometimes. When my fiancé and I catch each other doom scrolling we ask each other if we could be doing something better.
When someone is working, don't let them see you idle.
That was my dad's dogma, and it's served me well.
"You could be reading a moderately interesting book." - Po.
A rule I think it would be good to implement. No complaints or demands for at least 30-60 minutes upon arriving home.
Once when discussing nagging and how nasty it can be, a wise friend explained that women feel the need to be seen as nice, so in order to get rid of all that pent up anger and annoyance they need a lightning rod, usually their husband. I found it worked for me to visualise it that way and subsequently I was able to consider what may have occurred in her day that brought about a bout of nagging. However, at other times it is purely because she thinks I'm loafing.
@SinningInHell I can assure you that neither of us ever beat up our wives, although I'm not doubting that it happened, and is still happening in certain communities. Are you speaking from experience?
I lost my wife who I love more than I know how to express, in part because of what you are describing. When I think of the beauty of the person I knew, and the love, dedication and admiration I had for her character, I catch my breath at the thought of losing her, as I always lose her again.
And yet, the cost of keeping a bird of "such rarest spun metal," is less like the plight of Sisyphus-since Sisyphus can be imagined happy-and more that of Prometheus. One cannot imagine Prometheus happy. I think of the raging Furies every time I think of Feminist Frequency or the prohibitionists. Always, there are embattled harpies prodding men away from Dionysian pleasure and toward a warlike state. Can the prescription really be so basic as women hate seeing men so easily pleased and entertained?
I'm not proud to admit this, but I frequently return to the thought that maybe Islam has some wisdom to offer in its treatment of women. But of course, I always shake off the thought. Of course women are better off liberated, equal and angry. Right?
Frankly the source of the issue seems to originate in the lack of communication. Either there is a failure to engage in communicating with their spouse when an issue initially arises or there is an issue of engaging in hostile communication/response. "A soft word turns away wrath" a gentle response or request can often be the end of the issue before it even becomes one.
Generally, whatever they are nagging about is something they want and it all centers around them. It’s a reaction based in narcissism and her desire to have her wants satisfied. Even at the expense of someone else’s desires or wants.
Did you watch the video or just read the title?
@@PothePerson Watched the video. But was fixing my dinner also.
@SinningInHell I’m awesome in that way.
"you could be learning an instrument, forming a band, learning a language... [get more than] one or two media sources you consume"
This is actually infuriating and I've had this argument so many times with exes. White collar workers (like yourself) do not understand hard work. Physical jobs make you tired. Tiredness comes home with you. It isn't that men don't want more from life, we do, but we have to make a trade off between having money for a family which makes you vegetable, or having no money, no family and time for recreation. This means rest becomes important. Sitting still and zoning out is literally essential when you've been lifting hundreds of concrete blocks all day with a 30 minute break, and have to do it another four days following.
Women don't understand this sacrifice at all. The sacrifice that at age 40 you're going to get arthritis but she wants to go to the theatre on Wednesday at 8pm.
Remember that most men don't get better educations than women anymore - they're in competition with women for money and consequently, leisure time. The middle class is shrinking, and most men have to be content with finding a niche using their physical bodies. It takes so much effort to make more than the minimum wage nowadays without a degree, and even intelligent women like you will still rag us for more.
If you all dropped out of the labour force salaries would go up 50% and we could get middle class jobs with spare time to take you out for culture.
I understand that not all of what I've said here will apply to men who do manual work, but men with white-collar jobs are still complaining about being nagged and getting "no peace" at home.
Everything you say about women in the workforce I agree with completely. If women could afford to stay home and take care of all their housework, they would probably not get as stressed about their homes and would be less inclined to nag their husbands.
@@PothePerson I suppose men in the middle class who make decent earnings have no excuse.
My fault is trying to date above my education level so that's why I'm sensitive. Work is entirely optional to women and they project that onto men as if we chose to do what we do. Like, do you really think I picked building houses instead of being a chartered surveyor?
I still love femininity. Bless them.
They don't need to anymore, that's the sad reality. They don't need to sympathise. The mentality is that someone else could do this job. If you're worth it, you'd be working smarter, earning more etc., not harder. The midwit weakling earns £80k a year in a make work job. She earns £40k working in marketing. This is the painful reality of the white and blue collar divide.
I don't understand this logic, of a blue collar man being too tired to do housework, yard work or take their wives out to dinner etc. At least with the housework & yard work, you'd have to do it anyway whether your spouse told you to do it not, whether you were married or not. So like how is it okay to NOT do it just because you have a manual labor job? Manual labor, white collar work, whichever, the things still need done. Did you just date/marry her to take care of you and do the things you don't want to do but would have to do yourself if not married? I'm actually asking in good-faith as someone currently married to a blue collar man.
@@kristapedia Have you seen the meme of a guy sat in an empty room? Men buy houses and yards for women and families. If we're committed to single life we downsize accordingly.
"Homemaking and your kids have to kindof be your hobby, if you are to stay sane as a married woman." I have been thinking about this since this video came out. It really hit me hard. Lol first I was just so sad because I feel like I used to have "real" hobbies. But you're absolutely right, I mean I have a 3-year-old and an 8-month-old, So basically I just need to adopt that statement with a positive frame of mind and be grateful. I am really so fortunate even if it does feel like a lot of work at times.
I know it's kind of sad, but you don't have to give up all your hobbies. And when your children are older there is plenty of time to get back into the things you don't have time for now.
The state of marriage in general is very artificial and a somewhat modern construct, that doesn't reflect the natural bonding and child rearing dynamic of our ancestors. For example, do we know that throughout human history, a single male and female inhabited the same exclusive living space, as opposed to living and working in separate areas, as groups? Because if they didn't share the same living spaces, nagging largely couldn't occur because in the past the sexes would have far less time to even see one another, and thus they would maximize for quality time when they do get a chance to be around one another. And also, everyone would be applying social pressure to ensure that everyone else is conforming to certain standards, and thus nagging would be coming top down from the elders, and not necessarily from the mother of the children. Due to the modern privacy culture, the modern woman may feel that she needs to play the part that an entire group would have fulfilled in the past, because there's no one else in a position to apply social pressure to either the man or woman.
Also, did women of the past even have leverage to tell a man what to do? I mean, if the man has already reproduced with the woman, he's already achieved what he wanted, which was to acquire sex. She is now beholden to him, because she wants to extract resources from his labor, and also get his protection, and it's up to him whether or not, or to what level he's willing to provide the provision and protection. So I guess what I'm saying is that the man would have dictated virtually everything. The woman wouldn't have had leverage, and thus, if she felt that she needed to nag him, she would have done so when only absolutely necessary. Women these days have far far more leverage in relationships, because they have so many mechanisms to circumvent the need for a man. The government and family court system are basically the man, because they can provide financial support, or extract financial support from the man by force.
Don't worry about being sexist. Existing as a member of a sex is an inescapable component of the human experience. We need to normalize sexism and take the word sexist back.
Exactly, there is no neutral gender. That is an absurd notion. Thomist metaphysics really can sort a lot of modern disasters.
Spot on. Although we are more similar than we are different.
You are spitting facts. You are intelligent. Thank you for making this video, the world needs to hear the truth. God bless.
Thank you cor this. It makes complete sense. This is so enlightening.
The point of a break is to relax and purposely doing something that isn't performative and as such not impressive. I really wish I had gotten married young. There is no way I will get married now that I no longer put the other sex on a pedestal. The point of getting married would have been to relax. To stop having to perform and try to impress all the time. That would have been the whole point. Single for life.
I'm a little lost, are you implying women don't nag to get you to do something but to stop you from doing 'nothing'?
That's more or less my theory, yes
Yeah, it's like nagging is a female-symptom of disappointment after a perceived lack of drive/ambition in the male.
@@PothePerson I have noticed in my own marriage that if I postpone my house based tasks, to coincide with my wife's she seems to be less resentful. 🙃
But only to get you to stop doing something she determines is nothing. You must be doing something she values. Not something you value.
@@FriedPi-mc5yt Which means that she is in control of the relationship.
It helps a lot to aliviate the stress of this situation if you're fortunate enough to have a spacious house which provides you with your own space away from your partner. These days, a room for the man of the house is called a man cave, but used to be a study. Either way, it's just a space where the man can put his own music, computer games and so on, and can go to get his relaxation without his wife having to see it.
This only works however if you allow each other to have their own space and not intrude on it. But could you imagine in this day and age, actually telling your wife not to come in your study whilst you're using it? Even if you are fortunate enough to have a large enough property to afford a space of your own, your partner would still come in if she wants attention, and so the problem just gets moved to another room.
That's how my parents did it, they did their own thing in different parts of the house. It's probably not an option for most people these days though.
Yup, I struggle with this myself working two jobs. I feel like I’m boring and my whole life is work, but when I’ve wound down and finished chores I just don’t have the patience to engage in the hobbies that are interesting. It’s kind of shit 🤣
And some of those women are dynasty builders. It’s so interesting
Thank you for this, I needed to hear it!
I love taking care of the house. Great opportunity to churn through my audiobooks I can do it all day eveyr day. It's just that women don't consider the idea of a stay at home partner very appealing and somehow need her partner to be busy on his career while she's girl bossing her own career. And I'm not faulting them for that, that's what they want in a man then that's fine. It's just that then you enter in to a situation where you both work, and where you both divide the chores over each other's depleted energy. That's not a very satisfying way to live together.
It's similar to Andrew Huberman and David Goggins who speak about motivation and the discipline to exercise several hours per day. All these two men do all day is pursue a fitness lifestyle and then talk about it on their podcast. To me they're not different than two Fortnite streamers talking about Fortnite on their stream. Exercise is fun. Doing chores is fun. That's the easy part of living. Being stressed out of your mind because your manager is breathing down your neck about deadlines and targets, that's the not fun part of living. I''ll gladly trade that life force draining part of my day for waking up well-rested, frolicking through my house or the gym without all these background processes running in the back of my mind.
Thank You! Smart wahman this actually makes perfect sense when think about the wahmen mind. I will definitely put this insight to good use
15:36 I’m calling “BS”! She had enough time to video herself from several angles! And we don’t even know if she set up the camera or did the editing by herself! 😜
Making videos is her job
The funny thing about this is that the relationship between wife and husband is the same as between army and commander: ask yourself men, would you be inspired to follow a commander into that is often covered in cheetos watching tv?
The lesson is, dont be yourself around your woman, go be lazzy where she cant see you. By the way leasure is the mark of the aristocratic elite.
I spend £35 a week on a cleaner to clean for 2 hours. We have a child and this is enough to balance the house work.
Hey Po! I would be interested in what you think of the "Happy Wife School" TH-cam channel
I am not entirely convinced. It certainly does have some truth to it, women seek mates that they will perceive as being in their rang or higher. I remember Gad Saad suggesting that this change in perception is probably main driver of divorce.
But I am not sure it is the whole story. If you look at old movies made by people who grew up in times before TV
conquered homes and video games were the thing, or more recent ones before internet and when video games were limited to kids ... you still see women there nagging: Why are you spending so much time with your friends /With your car/ Fishing/ Making models/ Bawling etc. One option is that women then also saw those activities as undesirable.
I remember Carl reading some story about Robin Hood (or was it king Arthur?) in which hero has to find out what is that women really want. Some grany reveals that it is that women always want for men to look at them as if they just met, to woo them., to constantly feel special Why? It is basically way to control them.
It is funny how women see such male behaviour as infantile, while men see female attention seeking as infantile.
I posted this on 15th minute. 3 minutes later Po: "if you are not constantly trying to impress your wife, marriage is not for you". Who ever wrote story Carl read is smiling in afterlife.
There is a lot of truth in that story.
I think this might be one reason why women might be tempted to cheat, when another man is wooing her, going to much more trouble to win her affection than her husband is. Obviously she is still very much at fault. I'm only explaining why cheating is a temptation for a woman, even when her husband is a good man.
@@PothePerson What book are you guys referring to? I myself would enjoy reading this if told.
This comes across as extremely, though unsurprisingly, entitled and solipsistic.
I think this can be answered with an understanding of masculine and feminine in a broader sense. The masculine role is expansive, outward looking. In a literal sense, this can mean finding new land, engaging and conquering an external force, and so on. The feminine is inward looking. It is the immediate, the social, concerned with the home environment, the ties between the group, and so on. For a social group to function, both need to be in harmony. In the last 100 years or so, there has been almost nowhere else to expand in to - especially in the literal sense - and therefore the masculine role has all but disappeared. If men are not engaging in the masculine role - that is, competing with external forces, both hardening themselves in the process and gaining reward for victories - then the feminine steps up and takes the dominant role. This means internal competition is instigated by the feminine, through psychological and status games. Again, this competition leads to victory and gains for the winners of this internal competition - although it is not necessarily good for the group, especially not in the long run. You can see evidence of this every Saturday night, outside a nightclub or takeaway, albeit in a very small and crude way. The obvious point to make is that no group has ever really stood the test of time once this role swap takes place.
Freud wrote something about this as well. How a society turns towards narcissism and becomes inward looking once a level of security and stability is achieved. Wimmin instigate verbal conflict out of a desire for a decisive outcome or evidence of success. If there is no evidence of progression or success - e.g. a new car, house, holiday; all things that people value as they age and compare themselves to peers - then nagging is effectively a stress test of a man's capabilities. It's also a way of unloading pent up emotions, which less mature/developed people will do, often because their parents did the same.
OUT FROM UNDER THE STAIRS YOU MAD BAT
my mum nags because it's a non-confrontational way of trying to force something. instead of dominance it uses "I'm the subordinate party so I'll be non-aggressively annoying until you can't put up with it anymore".
it's just an effective strategy when you don't have the authority to command things
Nice video. Subscribed.
Thanks
6:00 waiting for you turn into a pizza and a 6-pack at midnight
What about a nice salad with croutons with your steak and a nice red wine first then go for the vodka snorts after relaxing 👍
The thing that she is nagging you about isn't the real problem. Women never say what they really mean.
Basically, she wants to live in a romance novel and feel like she is the centre of your world. The nagging is simply a sign that you aren't living up to your role in her love story. Carl (Sargon) did a good segment on the podcast of the lotus eaters about this and I think it has a lot of truth to it. It's not the whole reason, but I do think it is a major factor.
Yeah, I saw that.
I think Sargon may have missed some of the nuances to the "breakup-ology" but he was more or less correct.
@@PothePerson I think that you are onto something here, though, for sure. It is the perceived inequality of the distribution of chores, plus the lack of engagement with her.
I found that my mother always complained that we men didn't help enough, but whenever we offered it invariably either wasn't a good time or she wanted to do it herself because she didn't trust us to do it to her satisfaction. It was more that she felt unappreciated and taken for granted as much as anything else.
Being seen to make an effort to consider her and what she would like is usually the underlying thing that she wants you to address. The trouble with guys is that they kinda disassociate, they switch off their brain for a bit. Women can't switch off like that so easily, so they perceive it as laziness (which it can be, but isn't always, sometimes it's a strategy to cope with stress, as men bottle up their emotions while women have a good cry) and laziness isn't attractive, like you say.
Surprising your woman with nice things to remind her that you care is important, given that men are not super neurotic and don't feel the need to constantly show positive reinforcement. We just assume that once something is established through reasoned discussion (i.e. "I love you"), it is considered to be true until otherwise noted. Women's brains don't work that way.
One wise man once said: "You can do anything to your woman as long as you don't bore her." Which, while hyperbolic, does convey the essence of the psychology at play. Many women will unfortunately put up with all sorts of things, because dark triad is sexy. But by god, do something to keep her interested. Being ignored is not something that a woman can take.
Same reason men fight. It is part of our nature
how were you able to see the amount of dislikes?
Witchcraft
Only 43 minutes late, me when my mother sings obtusely! Please God rent my backbone in twain! Edit: 09:50 Bruh mothers hold it even if you ask for it. It is because it contains baby stuff.
It's sad this video needed to be made. I think every grandpa and grandma (or in this day grand-grand-ma/pa) knows this but probably couldn't put into words. But if you had contacts with your grand(grand)parents, when you were growing up, and they were not boomers, but just a little (generation) older, they would be "nudging" you into this direction, either by example (help your grandpa/ma), or by "grandpa/ma talk." When I was young, I remember when I helped to stack wood for winter. I was so little. And I remember we were stacking until grandma made dinner. It was very important SHE would interrupt. (edit: not interrupt, but finish first.) I didn't understand why, little 6y old me.
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Another certified Po classic good to see the return of both regular under the stairs vids and wamen hour
I understand. You well explained that women nag only because their preferences in choices in balance between work and leisure are correct. Men's are not, that obvious because those are not like women's.
Men want their woman to be. Women want their man to do.
What makes reading a more aesthetic hobby than video games? It's even more passive. Serious question.
There is no asking "why" with aesthetics.
Reading is associated with intelligence and wisdom. Video games are associated with little boys and angry teenagers.
@@PothePerson >Reading is associated with intelligence and wisdom. Video games are associated with little boys and angry teenagers.
My original assumption of the video game/male hobby question was simply that the only hobbies (that specifically aren't shared together, video games suddenly become a lot more tolerable when they're played together as you mention in the video) women will find attractive are the hobbies which increase her status or increase her access to resources. If she can't directly consume the fruits of the hobby or brag to her friends about it, it will be a waste of time from her perspective and this reply is more in line with that assumption. The video seemed to frame the hobby question as a matter of passivity/activity, or at least that was my reading of it.
>There is no asking "why" with aesthetics.
I could not disagree more strongly with this.
Anyway, thanks for the response.
18:00 I know I would have disagreed with this at 20, maybe 25 even. I at 30 can say this is all 💯% on point.
Po reported what other women self-reported, but that will never give a complete picture of the phenomenon. For example how does the amount of nagging change when the husbands change the way they relax?
How viral? What were the stats? Was #Po4PM trending?
You can see it on the screenshot. I think it was getting up to 1M impressions
Impressive stuff. @@PothePerson
This hypothetical solution to the nagging will not fix it. There are probably just unknown incompatibilities between those people they weren't aware of when they were getting into a relationship. Many people have relationships for the wrong reasons, that is the problem. None of this advice to fix it would be needed if they were aware to begin with.
Men have a journey to their full potential they will rarely meet but I can't imagine a womans nagging will inspire them towards that direction.
Consider: What if you play the video games together?
Jokes aside, you can put this issue in even simpler terms when you view it from a spiritual perspective. Masculinity is about initiative. Taking the first step. Doing things without being prompted to do them by someone else.
I feel like at the stage of nagging, you have already disappointed your woman with a lack of initiative. It also low key gives away your agency of deciding what you want to take initiative on, instead you are told what you should be doing. And then that may make you as resentful as she is.
Of course in all of this, affording the other person some slack in these matters is probably a good idea. We all have days in which we can't quite keep up. I think the important thing is not letting it become a habit.
Not sure i agree that "masculinity is taking the initiative" in things that are often nagged about.
Take for example when the washing up is done after a meal.
If one person wants it done straight away and the other person has decided to do the washing up in 90 minutes time, then isn't the solution not to nag but for the person who wants the instant gratification to do the washing up straight away and not take it out or blame the other person for being evolved beyond the need for instant gratification?
Even worse if the person complains about lack of communication when he or she prioritises washing up over sitting with reach other and talking each and every day.
@@ChristopherNFP My point is that the object of the nagging itself isn't what motivates the nagging though.
I could use a woman to do my cooking and cleaning 😊.
They nag when they are not being dominated. When they are not dominated it causes structural psychological problems for them.
Nagging gives men a purpose in life.
Great video, heckin nuanced. It is true that men are generally more comfortable with an environment that is infrequently cleaned - but if this causes them to be resented by their wives for being lazy, they need up, out of the house, go hang out with friends or meet new people, get a cooler hobby.
NO. You're wrong. Watch Red Pill podcasts. Fresh and Fit, Whatever, .... This video: everything you would expect from a woman.
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Why do women nag?... Why not?🤷♂
I think you are on to something here... 😎👍🙏
It depends on how hard the man works at work compared to the woman. It's contextual. But certainly I can see why women perceive it that way even if the man is working a lot.
Part of the issue is that both men and women have day jobs, which forces the woman to do more than before, and the man is just doing what is traditional for him without realising how much more he needs to step up.
Absolutely right. Women should expect their partner to pull their weight. It's pretty simple: you are a team and all team members should pull equally or there will be problems. And pulling equally doesn't mean doing the same things: in fact the whole damn point there are two sexes is evolution exploiting the benefits of specialisation millennia before Adam Smith.
It's a motivator to get males to get things done !
As a woman I found this so uplifting, I am so glad I married a high value man who is productive, generous, interesting and aesthetic. But always surprised at the doomer comments you get.
Bunch of whiners in the comments
It's going to be great for men in the long run.
Based video, the 15 dislikes are from majorgamer loosers
I spend £35 a week on a cleaner to clean for 2 hours. We have a child and this is enough to balance the house work.
small price to pay for a happy marriage
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