Men are superior to women in some part. Women are superior to men in some part. Labeling someone as inferior just because of their sex is delusional when both women and men are humans
@@Людмила-э3в Apart from women being the ones who bear children, and breastfeed, the different jobs that one is built for will still come down to the individual.
The mindset of acting upon your urges freely is absolutely insane. Self control is needed in human existence. That is Pandora’s box to all kinds of stuff
Fr! The amount of men AND WOMEN that say and continue to defend the idea that “men can’t control themselves” is insane, used as a scape goat, and adds to the pressure women face smh
Agreed. Every time someone mentioned having natural urges must mean that’s the behaviour that should be perused, I shook my head. I have a natural urge to eat chocolate for every meal, to not work and watch TH-cam all day, even to take something that doesn’t belong to me because I want it. Imagine if we all lived by pure natural urges, that’s insane.
As a daughter with a very cold emotionally unavailable father, most kids are not thinking omg my father is so strong, we see someone who is distant, intimidating and unrelatable. Seeing your parents just be human is one of the best ways to bond
Sometimes that’s the best balance in a household as long as he wasn’t cruel. If he was reliable, stoic and intimidating to an extent he was a great father it doesn’t hurt to be a little human neither tho.
@@marvin2678 not in that case my dad is very distant he has never told me he loved me never hugged me never really actually been emotionally there for me. hes very intimidating and we have never had a relationship i have always relied on my mom for everything so i dont really appreciate him hes just a guy who lives with us and is there in our day to day life.
mr locario saying that he has sex with girls that he's not that involved in and then comparing that to masturbating, as if the woman in the question were a mere object was one of the most chilling and terrifying and disgusting things i've ever heard
Venture into the more toxic side of the Red pill community, some of them say the most vile things along these lines. It's a big culture and really horrible the mindset they are peddling
thats highly disturbing he even compared having sex with woman to just masturbating. he's probably a sociopath and definitely egocentrically. that was pretty disgusting.
That's just what one night stands are though. You don't form an intimate connection with someone you met at the club 45 minutes ago. You're just using the other person to satisfy an urge, this goes for both sexes.
@@spinnie0 I know but viewing a person as an object . As if they are a thing that doesn’t experience pleasure , has feelings , etc . Just viewing the person as a hole or a human dildo is messed up . Not caring about another persons pleasure , how they’re enjoying it , how they’re feeling during the whole thing . Etc . Just because they’re a stranger doesn’t mean yall aren’t emotionally bonding on some type of level in that moment
Was waiting for someone to say that. If you’re abusing your spouse when unfortunately many men do, then you ARE emotional and don’t know how to control them. Men and women are both emotional. Humans are emotional, no way around that. Expressing them in the right manner is what it’s all about
I was wondering the same thing scrolling through this comment section. People saying "men should be composed and not show emotion", does that include fits of rage aimed at a spouse or children that may harm them emotionally or physically? You shouldn't control your actions with your emotions but rather the other way around, the emotion comes first so it needs to be processed through an action. If you're angry, do something about it that is helpful to both yourself and others, don't use that emotion to take action on another, even if it is only verbal.
Oh those dudes know exactly what they are . Whether you wanna call it sensitive, soft, in touch with their feminine, emotional, weak , submissive or whatever we all know and they all know
If you ask me if I wanna be classified as "alpha" especially when the known alpha males are the tates, myron, justin of this world... i'd rather have any other tag to me than this ;).
One thing you cant disagree with, is that this conversation is extremely peaceful compared to alot of other episodes ive watched. Its actual watchable.
It does, but we're talking generally about women because social media has taught women they can do whatever without having to respect their husbands. Women are more thsn likely going to do it because it's socially acceptable today for women to do whatever without consequences
@@tonyonaperky2128 I think men look at the top 10% or so of most desirable women and base their opinions of all women on the behavior of a few. There are a lot of great women out there, but they're less conspicuous.
@@aimeemoore3104 nah, that's definitely what women do. Even average women these days are entitled and have attitudes, especially when they earn a degree that's a master's or higher
if you WANT to be with multiple women COOL, do YOU, but don’t go cheating… GET INTO A POLYGAMY relationship and make it clear to your partner like … not that hard.
Exactly! I personally dont think polygamy works since I dont understand why would someone want to be with multiple people at the same time, cant one person be okay? Doesnt that mean they're using them because one person cant satisfy them. If they're using them doesnt that mean they dont love them. Anyway, thats just me but I agree chesting is obviusly not okay
@@brianna4657 Yeah in my view while someone could want multiple partners, more often than not polygamy's biggest issue is both sides potentially not wanting it the same amount. So one side compromises for the other and that compromise builds up misery over the years. Even if both agree logically, unexpected jealousy and changing opinions of it can mess up the arrangement as well. Just a lot harder to get both sides on the same page and have enough communication for something like that to work.
Male humans, for hundreds of thousands of years (bc times) were evolved to be with multiple women because this maximized the chance of the tribe surviving. Not saying its what men should do, but it is how theyre made
this is the case, instinctual desires come from biological wiring. Humans along with other mammals survived by women selecting the best men and a few men making multiple women pregnant. The mitochondrial dna proves that. Plus it is also the behaviour of other mammals.
executive function and the ability to resist base desire is also a part of our biological/evolutionary "design" you could even say it's the defining characteristic of our nature, it's what separates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom
I cannot stop laughing at Mr. Locario. I dont know if he's an actor, trolling theses guys or the women in his life are trolling him, but there aint no way hes got it the way he's telling these dudes. He's got a wife, a girlfriend and numerous chicks "on the side", all of whom who will let him make 100% of the decisions because they are all super submissive to his overwhelming masculinity? 😂😂😂😂 Yeah ok.
Exactly 😂😂😂😂 I just said I couldn't take him seriously.. as soon as I heard that particular comment I said he needs to stop talking because he is lying😂😂😂
He is actually the one who lacks masculinity which is why he has to overcompensate so much. “beat chest, look at me” .. you can also tell he has been “too emotional” at some point in his life to a woman who probably dumped him for it so now he is like “nope I will never be hurt” … true masculinity is the provider and protector but not because women can’t do it themselves but because true masculinity understands the value of a woman
I think where the "alphas" go wrong is by assuming that their way of thinking is the "natural order" or something like that. To prefer a submissive woman is one thing but to think submissive women are happier is just silly. You can be happy in your chosen lifestyle and recognize that other people can be just as happy with their own different lifestyle, it's not one size fits all.
Agreed! I think the issue is media has shown a lot of independent women in a negative light, as far as being bitter, angry, or without a partner. So that’s the narrative that gets pushed!
Exactly. I wonder how nobody asked them "So when you're extremely angry at someone, your homicidal urges are natural and therefore ideal to act upon?"...
“Cuz a lot of these girls they usually go home and cry at night from being lonely” 😂😂😂 It’s the only activity men can imagine single women doing at night.
@@ncphocused I think it's the law of attraction, insecure men attracts insecure girls 😅 idk or maybe that's how he expect his women to be when they are without him
I would have so much rather seen my dad cry in front of me than the terrifying bursts of rage that left us all walking on eggshells for days whenever he was around. It would have humanized him to me so much to see him show an emotion that wasn’t anger when he was upset. For years I was terrified of going to him when I messed up because I was scared of how he would react.
@@museitup4741 okay, but the point is when you actually get to know these kinds of “tough, alpha” men they’re plenty emotional. All humans are. They just only exhibit their emotions through “manly” ones like anger, greed, and lust, or through other outlets like addictions, alcoholism, etc. Truly secure men should understand that crying is a healthy outlet sometimes instead of punching walls or drinking away their feelings.
@@amarjo351 Where did you get “break down as a small child” from? The person said that they’d rather see a man cry than punch walls because they don’t know how to work through their emotions.
Mr. Lame is abusive, Its very obvious. He has a lot confidence in places he shouldn't. Truly a BAN. Notice most of the guys side eyeing him . Hes truly a tool, Blue suit is flavorful. ! I love the guy in braids. very emotionally intelligent. I liked Kevin.
If you actually look past the "alpha male vs beta male" this video gives a great insight on different peoples opinions on relationships with other people.
The friends with women section was pretty worrying for me as a woman, in terms of how I need to be wary of how some men will not see me as a person and would only want to interact with me meaningfully if they want to sleep with me.
@@jessy1982 Yea but this is pretty much common knowledge by now, no? Be wary of your male friends. Reality isn't always nice but it's the truth of the situation.
It would be sooo nice to see submissive women vs dominant women. I feel like it’ll really put into perspective what it means to be submissive or dominant and not just in generally known ways.
Cuando hablan de dominante me imagino a una estadounidense gorda que no se baña y tiene el pelo pintado. Y si quieres una mujer normal, las hispanas en su mayoría son dominantes.
This would be interesting because I consider myself a dominant woman, but I'm submissive in the bed. Day to day life my husband is still 100% my partner and his opinion matters just as much as mine when we make important deciscions. I am just what people have described as dominant.
@@luisfilipe2023 does it make sense that in the video there are men who identify as Alpha, not that I'm calling myself an Alpha bc I wouldn't label myself that way, and still make decisions with their wife about household and parental concerns?
hearing a bunch of men discuss what women truly want, being sure that they can know it better than the women themselves is so SURREAL like please go outside to touch some grass
You don’t ask a fisherman what a fishes innermost dreams are, you ask the fish. And also, if you’re comparing relationships to hunting there is something incredibly wrong.
@@DevillJinthese men are not all the same. They come from different backgrounds, races, cultural identities, orientations, etc! Yes it IS possible for diverse people with diverse opinions to have the emotional intelligence to discuss different points of view and listen to one another. That is what you should take away from this! ❤ Our government and the mainstream media (which the gov't controls) wants you to believe otherwise. They want people to be apathetic and separate. Don't be naive and fall into that trap.
I think there needs to be a distinction between “being attracted to” and “recognizing as attractive.” I can recognize someone as an attractive individual without being attracted to them. There’s so much emphasis on there being an interaction between those two phrases, but they’re very distinct and can differentiate the experience of whether someone wants to pursue a person or not.
I cringed at that entire topic discussion because I kept shouting THERES A DIFFERENCE BEWTEEN BEING ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE AND FINDING SOMEONE ATTRACTIVE and the fact that no one brought up that distinction made me mad
He is the typical ignorant so called alpha male cause that is a aplha male an alpha male has absolute self control and he doesn't have any self control or self respect so he doesn't respect or takes the time to actually build a relationship with his wife.
Holy crap…. All of these men whether Allha or Beta, actually took turns, showed respect, stated their disagreements and agreements well and could come in and out of the conversation naturally. Their communication was insane high compared to most of this channeled guests. Awesome conversation.
I just watched the liberal gay men vs conservative gay men and jeez…the level of respect and patience in this video compared to that one is so shocking. Idc about alpha beta. These men had a respectable conversation with one another
"a lot of these girls, they usually go at home and cry at night from being lonely" As a woman, I can tell you that my favourite part of the day is when I'm by myself with nobody else around to eat away at my energy.
Ong ive never been happier being single. I want to live with my kids and pets one day but I’m just scared to disappoint my mother that I’ve never married someone. Especially since my grandma is obsessed mentioning how I’m not married at 19. 24/7
@@arianaariel4197 Statistics show that women are the happiest with their life when they aren’t married/with kids. Men are the opposite, they are loneliest when they are single, not married/with kids. Men just can’t comprehend that women don’t have to rely on men for happiness. Because men’s greatest fear is being alone. That’s why they insult women by calling them “cat ladies”.
Weird how Mr Locario, who perceives himself as a strong alpha male, felt to me like the "weakest" and most insecure one, especially with his body language. I feel like he's trying to hypercompensate a lack of self esteem, which I hope he will one day be able to find within himself (and not only through relationships with submissive women). On the other hand, the quiet thinker Anthony showed us a lot of strength, power and self confidence, without the need of all that dominating BS. My absolute favorite. I also really loved Kevin, who put himself in the "alpha" male group (hate that wording) but was really emotionally intelligent.
I agree, with his body language and the way he spoke in general I wouldn’t have even considered him an ‘alpha’ male, just one trying to impersonate that role. With what he was saying and tryna get the other ‘alphas’ to agree he just sounds like he lacks discipline and hasn’t come to terms with a few things because he’s been taught otherwise.
a misconception about the so-called "alpha" group is that they lack emotional intelligence, I don't think that the word alpha was very appropriate in the making of this video title because the meaning of "alpha" has so many different contrasts I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. These men didn't act like the "toxic masculinity" stubborn and ignorant alphas you typically hear about online and I think Kevin fits just fine with those other dudes, whatever their title is.
It’s less of labelling oneself as a beta male and more of a proclamation of being completely opposite to those that refer to themselves as an “alpha male”
@@Solidude4It doesn't appear so. They are genuinely aware that this is who they are. They're just ok with it, that's all. They are not competitive or driven to win in that particular setting. In _'being a male'_ setting. And that's fine. Each to their own.
If men are designed to want multiple women then why do men whom have multiple women find it unfulfilling. People chase the things they believe will make them happy and at the end of the day ,connections and building genuine bonds is what makes people the happiest (To keep it short and to answer everyone ,Building Genuine bonds is what people chase, having sex with someone is fulfilling a small part in building a bond but that foundation is unstable and not worth building a house on Time , effort ,commitment and sacrifice is what goes into a long lasting bond take away one of these pillars the foundation is shaky )
In a way that says more about the women than it does the men who want multiple women. Or it points to the fact that it takes a while to properly find a mate that you have chemistry with, that you're compatible with, and attracted to overall. While also, you can be a man thats still uncovering new parts of his identity. So it could be bad timing on both sides. So, with that being said, you still could have multiple women by default. Yes, it may start with the initial desire, but it can go beyond that.
excellent question. It's because what they are talking about is confused with hedonism. Yes, men are designed to have the urge for multiple women, but a healthy way to apply it is for example: >in a 20year marriage husband stepped out 2 or 3 times in a one night stand with a waitress he doesn't remember the name of. Not a reason to break up the relationship, you know it was just physical, like pissing in a friend's toilet, life goes on. He did his thing and came back. >you haven't had sex in ages, fine if you don't feel like it, so he goes out and gets the physical urge out of him with a random girl, comes back, loves you the same, no issues. >dead sex life in relationship? You can reignite it with a threesome, because you understand it will be just physical, but you can excite him and he'll be willing to have more sex with you afterwards. You can even organize the threesome yourself to make sure it's just business from the 3rd person's end too. This is sometimes even suggested in relationship therapy, because you know...psychology literature has this male experience well documented and studied, regardless of how women feel about it Sleeping with tons of women and going all in on that urge however, is HEDONISM and that inherently ruins you mentally, that's where you lose out on love, pair bonding and ability to form meaningful relationships with your wife and kids. Hedonism will destroy a man and a family, but what I described above is something most people in the older generations did and it's what made their marriages last forever. Basically it's the difference between doing it a small handful of times in your life vs being the purpleshirt guy and having a wife, girlfriend and still sleeping around with others. There is a nuance
Except I have seen both men and women end up not "happy" after being with one person. Maybe because Happiness is not a goal state, but a transitory state.
It was so animal, bro. For cats the girl cat can be with 4 boy cats but for humans you only supposed to be with 1. There's evidence of that as well. Cause I read books!
If you heard it in your head as 'designed to be with multiple women', then I understand your issue. However, back in reality, the actual prompt was 'designed to WANT to be with multiple women'. Those two things are not the same. You know how I know I'm designed to want multiple women? I'm sexually attracted to more than one woman! It's very simple.
PLEASE ASK WOMEN THESE SAME QUESTIONS. I would love to hear what they think about men in terms or heteronormativity. I think that it is very interesting how all of these men continued to steer the conversation and provide answers on the basis of what they think women “want”. It would be really interesting to see ladies answer these questions.
women do not know what they want, what i’m saying sounds so incely but whenever they talk about relationships they usually say the opposite of what they actually want, i knew a lesbian girl and she also told me what i was saying is true, im not just some incel guy saying that
I think it's better to focus on how a woman reacts or how responsive she is based on what she says....don't just blindly listen and know your head what she says is not that important but how she reacts is key
It's not dominating. It's called being dominant or exercising head-ship. If a relationship is truly 50/50, what happens when they disagree on something? A coin toss? There is no growth or progress
@@micahsirles8319 it's called compromise if your so insecure you need to always get your way by surrounding yourself with weak people it dosent make you an Alpha it makes you pathetic.
It's possible, but there's no way of knowing. Besides as far as I understand, the biological 'male hierarchy' is more of a spectrum, so 'alpha', 'beta' 'sigma' and 'gamma' e.t.c are unhelpful terms when speaking scientifically.
''I have a wife and i girlfriend and i have sex with other women too 😇'' The fact he has no shame in saying this its crazy how bad of a mindset they have.
They way I cringed at that part. I really want to sit down with all the women in his life and ask them what went wrong in their lives that led them to be with this man.
That’s why he needs a submissive women. He needs her to have such low standards of herself, so he can mentally convince her what he is doing is “okay” and not check him on it… he is the weakest man up there
I've met many girls who cry themselves to sleep at 2am being they are lonely. I work with a lot of women who are older and single. (Work in a corporate office in Japan). It's so common
@Khadijah Begum Great... You're an outlier. Most women who are alone do. Your one experience won't trump the many I have witnessed. And most women won't let you know they cry about being lonely since they all want to act like girl bosses.
I feel my face shrivel up every time Mr. Locario opens his mouth. I think it's a running theme for Jubilee to have the "annoying" character regardless of which side they are on.
This is one of the best debates I have ever seen. The men handled this maturely and gave each other time to voice their opinions. There was no emotional insults, it was just beautiful and interesting to watch.
Personally, I don't think it's healthy to label yourself as an alpha male or beta male. You just end up putting expectations and limitations on yourself. Don't be alpha, don't be beta, just be yourself. Btw, I loved the guys who participated in this, it was an insightful and civil conversation! And yes, I am aware of the irony my username brings to this comment...
The”Alpha” mentality is dangerous bc “Alpha’s” most likely expect u to treat them as such, which is absolutely ridiculous. Who know wut would happen if u didn’t treat them as the “Alpha”
I'm not sure putting a label on something comes with (unreasonable) expectations or limitations. A label like Alpha or Beta isn't fully fenced off as you can see in this conversation. You can still feel different, or act different about alot of things. There is no all including or all excluding deffinition in a label. Also I think it's great to label to know you've found a group of people where you belong.
Can he got to the gym? No woman views him as alpha it’s a coping mechanism to feel better about himself. Doesn’t have his own physical self under control, but wants to feel control over others.
They don’t believe they have superior value. They believe they are practically superior. That is to say they have superior materialistic traits in which calls upon a certain role, such as “alpha male”
by what metric? too many people in this world today for this to not be subjective; otherwise, it is 'society'(social norms) defining the metric. @@AAquese
Kevin is a sweetheart, he is putting extra bass in his voice to rep the Asians males, but if they really wanted someone to rep the alpha male identity, they should have picked someone more naturally alpha like China Mac.
At what point was that ever said? Like literally the only justification behind it that was mentioned by anyone was that they want to and they enjoy it. Where's the 'I do it for power' part, I must have missed it, do you have a timestamp, or are you just using your telepathic powers? I've never seen a comment section more filled with strawman arguments. And that's saying something considering I've been to Twitter and Reddit.
In my opinion he’s the least masculine men there. Seems to be just ego and libido driven while all other men there are more principle driven. In my opinion ofc.
Just a bunch of bro's having wholesome, civil conversation. Not a hint of anyone getting mad. I love it. Regardless of who you are, this is what debate should be like.
I’m a 6’5” 265lbs protective father and husband. I’ve cried in front of my daughters a handful of times. Mainly from pride of their accomplishments and my love for them. It only showed them that I’m a human who loves and feels.
Nobody argued crying in front of your children 🤦🏽♂️ If you had acted that way before meeting the mother of your children and constantly cried infront of her, she wouldn’t even be the mother of your children in the first place. That’s the whole point.
16:03 - “I think a lot of women now are not trying to be men, they’re realizing that the qualities they’re looking for in men, they’ve always had in themselves” 👏👏👏
@@ceeIocthat's BETTER than being a man who can't even remember his kids birthdays and would come home to beat his wife just cause he had a bad day at work
I like Derek and Kevins perspective on all of this the most. A perspective of balance. Push and pull. Mutual respect. Challenging eachother. Doing what’s necessary for different times and different cases. I don’t like the binary thinking of being a totally dominant or totally submissive person, especially in a relationship.
I was about to type more or less what you just said when i came upon your comment. I like the way they look at things. They both remind me of my husband.
Yea but at the same time, his lifestyle is working for him and he found multiple women who subscribe to his “program”. Really goes to show that there’s someone out there for everyone
Keyen saying he has gone to therapy and that its an "alpha" mans job to be able to handle and verbalize their feelings AND saying to use "emotionally unstable" instead of "emotional" was SO important. I don't typically agree with "alpha" men at all, but the way he paved the way for some future "alpha" men to be able to get help for their mental health and that is so, so important.
I agree with your sentiment and well intentions but I simply lack sympathy for "alpha" males. They deserve to suffer the consequences of the persona that they want to achieve. They deserve to silently be destroyed from the inside out by their emotions for perpetuating this very toxic personality DISORDER.
managing ones emotions absolutely but to "verbalize their feelings" is something that works for females rather than males. Men deal with them differently. When we say emotional, emotionally unstable is what is meant.
Maybe in like the 1890s. In the 50s though? When people act like 70 years ago was paradise they are dumb but acting like the 50s were actually way worse than they were is even dumber.
It's ironic that the most silly / embarrassing debates was actually one of the most civil and respectful conversations I've seen on here so far. No one disrespected the other speakers. Nice to see.
Not silly at all, had I seen this years ago it would have save me from a bad relationship. Now maybe I'm a little touched and need things spelled out more than others, but I found the debate more useful in daily life than most of these that I just watch out of curiousity/boredom.
I feel sorry for any women who dated/dates the guy in the purple tshirt. I wonder what's his relationship like with his mom. Dude is bad news & broken.
Well, this was such an interesting video. It's nice to see people talking about hard subjects and being polite and civilised towards each other. We need more of this these days.
Derek was very well spoken and real. I loved what he said about him and his wife switching bread earning roles to allow him to grow his business, that is what a true partnership is all about.
I like him. His fidelity to his wife is appealing from the start The beta dude said it best. It’s all about your character, not your nature! And certainly not due to you being a male SMH! Not acting on the temptation is more alpha behaviour than anything the alpha clowns believe and promote! What’s alpha about lacking the self control to give into carnal desires??? Nothing imo ! It’s not a flex Having said that, I agree that ‘open relationships’ are better than people cheating. I don’t think they’re sustainable relationships but honesty and being upfront is key
And this is why I avoid relationships💀. Imagine opening yourself up to a person, to find out they have other ppl lined up. Cheating will never make sense to me.
Communication and honest? That's the foundation of any relationship. If y'all can't openly talk about what you exactly want in a relationship, then you're not ready for one.
@@zkart8038you do know that some people are completely dishonest and they will lie to you while looking you in the eye? You can have those “honest” relationships all you want but if your partner is lying every single time how can you get what you were promised? Trust is earned and when someone breaks it repeatedly they’re just broken and the relationship is not workable
this is one of the best episodes of middle grounds I've seen in a long time. no one tried to overtake the conversation, they let each other speak, and they genuinely found middle ground on quite a few topics. jubilee's casting team finally got it right
That social worker deserves all the flowers, he’s mentally secure. Also Eddie hit the NAIL🗣️ Kevin was irritated near the end but probably the most sane alpha. Who gave these men labels?
Mr. Locario it's dealing with black women who have a totally different attitude thus, that is why he is seen so radical in comparison with the other alpha males in the discussion.
Yeah, no sht sherlock. Notice how kint put it very respectfully. "with black women who have a TOTALLY DIFFERENT attitude..." I know most people lump all blacks as the same, but she is not. The OP says she is different than the stereotypical majority, so give her props. But she also cannot understand how most of any race think, if she's different. @@deadman4222
What are your thoughts on this MG prompt: Are men superior to women? Let us know your below 👇
Men are superior to women in some part.
Women are superior to men in some part.
Labeling someone as inferior just because of their sex is delusional when both women and men are humans
Of course not, women and men are equals, it’s just that they are built for different jobs
the accurate answer is Equally both are superior
No they have different qualities but have equal value
Also great job on the casting. Everyone was super respectful
@@Людмила-э3в Apart from women being the ones who bear children, and breastfeed, the different jobs that one is built for will still come down to the individual.
The absolute courage and balls it takes to go onto a video and be classified as either an “alpha” or “beta” is beyond me.
Imagine non ironically calling yourself an alpha 🤣🤣🤣
@@12wer3wer9i agree thats bad but imagine willingly going on camera and confirming ur a beta😫
@@Jays-ug9bd like bruh😂 does it take more balls to go on camera and be labeled as a beta tho? 🤔 That's some Alpha behavior lol
@@jadedcode8953 u may be on to something
It’s crazy to me that people who say that they’re a beta male 😭
The mindset of acting upon your urges freely is absolutely insane. Self control is needed in human existence. That is Pandora’s box to all kinds of stuff
Fr! The amount of men AND WOMEN that say and continue to defend the idea that “men can’t control themselves” is insane, used as a scape goat, and adds to the pressure women face smh
Agreed. Every time someone mentioned having natural urges must mean that’s the behaviour that should be perused, I shook my head. I have a natural urge to eat chocolate for every meal, to not work and watch TH-cam all day, even to take something that doesn’t belong to me because I want it. Imagine if we all lived by pure natural urges, that’s insane.
@@kash9854 I totally agree, especially believing that these urges are gender specific.. ummm no
All the regular men watch this and see all these dudes as clowns lmaooo
Said no women ever
As a daughter with a very cold emotionally unavailable father, most kids are not thinking omg my father is so strong, we see someone who is distant, intimidating and unrelatable. Seeing your parents just be human is one of the best ways to bond
Yup
Sometimes that’s the best balance in a household as long as he wasn’t cruel. If he was reliable, stoic and intimidating to an extent he was a great father it doesn’t hurt to be a little human neither tho.
You should at least appreciaze what your dad did for you
he’s doing it wrong
@@marvin2678 not in that case my dad is very distant he has never told me he loved me never hugged me never really actually been emotionally there for me. hes very intimidating and we have never had a relationship i have always relied on my mom for everything so i dont really appreciate him hes just a guy who lives with us and is there in our day to day life.
mr locario saying that he has sex with girls that he's not that involved in and then comparing that to masturbating, as if the woman in the question were a mere object was one of the most chilling and terrifying and disgusting things i've ever heard
Venture into the more toxic side of the Red pill community, some of them say the most vile things along these lines. It's a big culture and really horrible the mindset they are peddling
That dude is not all of us. I agree that was a really cold emotionless response.
thats highly disturbing he even compared having sex with woman to just masturbating. he's probably a sociopath and definitely egocentrically. that was pretty disgusting.
That's just what one night stands are though. You don't form an intimate connection with someone you met at the club 45 minutes ago. You're just using the other person to satisfy an urge, this goes for both sexes.
@@spinnie0 I know but viewing a person as an object . As if they are a thing that doesn’t experience pleasure , has feelings , etc . Just viewing the person as a hole or a human dildo is messed up . Not caring about another persons pleasure , how they’re enjoying it , how they’re feeling during the whole thing . Etc . Just because they’re a stranger doesn’t mean yall aren’t emotionally bonding on some type of level in that moment
Men, we need to stop embarrassing ourselves like this. Please don’t ever label yourself as an alpha or a beta.
this 🙌
Fax
It really is embarrassing. You are not an animal.😂
Whats a Beta animal bro? 😁😁@@elyse443
Everyone's speaking facts on the comments
Do men not realize that anger and aggression are emotions...? They are hella emotional, too. In different ways.
Was waiting for someone to say that. If you’re abusing your spouse when unfortunately many men do, then you ARE emotional and don’t know how to control them. Men and women are both emotional. Humans are emotional, no way around that. Expressing them in the right manner is what it’s all about
Facts
When did they say having anger and aggression is a good thing?
I was wondering the same thing scrolling through this comment section. People saying "men should be composed and not show emotion", does that include fits of rage aimed at a spouse or children that may harm them emotionally or physically? You shouldn't control your actions with your emotions but rather the other way around, the emotion comes first so it needs to be processed through an action. If you're angry, do something about it that is helpful to both yourself and others, don't use that emotion to take action on another, even if it is only verbal.
@@ElectricLegend14you’re projecting. That’s ok but it makes for a weak point. A non-point, really
I dont understand how someone can say that respect isn't needed to form a romantic relationship.
Masochists
Inferior males, not men
It needs to go both ways
men 🍼
@ss miz spot on sis, we should start using that emoji along with the pacifier 😂
I watch a lot of these middle ground videos and this is by far the most respect I’ve seen shown by two groups with opposing ideologies
This one and the newest Colorism video.
Imagine seeing a casting call for Beta males and thinking to yourself "Yup. Thats me"
😂😂
Betas are better in every sense
@@fairygodmother139huh???
Oh those dudes know exactly what they are . Whether you wanna call it sensitive, soft, in touch with their feminine, emotional, weak , submissive or whatever we all know and they all know
If you ask me if I wanna be classified as "alpha" especially when the known alpha males are the tates, myron, justin of this world... i'd rather have any other tag to me than this ;).
Aint no way "Alpha males vs Beta males" 💀
The disrespect 😂
im a gamma male...
Who tf identifies as an Alpha or Beta
@@ravencalamity3254 im an average male 🗿
Perfect title made me click 🤣🤣🤣🤣
One thing you cant disagree with, is that this conversation is extremely peaceful compared to alot of other episodes ive watched. Its actual watchable.
Yes, even though I disagreed with a lot of what was said, I enjoyed it and found myself chuckling from both sides. But I was laughing at mr locario
if you disagreed, you need some serious help bud@@UltraMella
Same thought I had, these guys are all secure enough in themselves, they don't need to hammer their points
I wonder why…
yea even if the subject isn't really the most interesting, everyone is respectful of others, they're listening, they didn't really talk over eachother
Bro can cry seeing some random kid do well in sports but can't cry seeing his daughter graduate or get married. What a great father you are my dude!
if someone came up to me and unironcally called themselves an alpha male in full seriousness i think i would actually laugh in their face
Like women who parade their college degrees like trophies to men. I agree.
@@0doublezero0 lol true
@Oso straight guys probably
Well calling yourself an Beta is wierd as well 🤣
An alpha would not tell you. You would know it. If you do not then he is not one.
"If a woman cannot respect you, she cannot love you" feels true but I think it goes both ways
It does, but we're talking generally about women because social media has taught women they can do whatever without having to respect their husbands. Women are more thsn likely going to do it because it's socially acceptable today for women to do whatever without consequences
@@tonyonaperky2128in what way? 💀
@@tonyonaperky2128 I think men look at the top 10% or so of most desirable women and base their opinions of all women on the behavior of a few. There are a lot of great women out there, but they're less conspicuous.
@@tonyonaperky2128 stfu no its not
@@aimeemoore3104 nah, that's definitely what women do. Even average women these days are entitled and have attitudes, especially when they earn a degree that's a master's or higher
if you WANT to be with multiple women COOL, do YOU, but don’t go cheating… GET INTO A POLYGAMY relationship and make it clear to your partner like … not that hard.
Exactly! I personally dont think polygamy works since I dont understand why would someone want to be with multiple people at the same time, cant one person be okay? Doesnt that mean they're using them because one person cant satisfy them. If they're using them doesnt that mean they dont love them. Anyway, thats just me but I agree chesting is obviusly not okay
Exactly! There is no excuse for cheating.
@@brianna4657 Yeah in my view while someone could want multiple partners, more often than not polygamy's biggest issue is both sides potentially not wanting it the same amount. So one side compromises for the other and that compromise builds up misery over the years. Even if both agree logically, unexpected jealousy and changing opinions of it can mess up the arrangement as well. Just a lot harder to get both sides on the same page and have enough communication for something like that to work.
@@brianna4657 polygamy actually works, it's pretty common in Muslim countries
Mf want to eat they cake and to have it too!
It's so crazy that people actually believe that because they have the desire, they are made to do it.
Male humans, for hundreds of thousands of years (bc times) were evolved to be with multiple women because this maximized the chance of the tribe surviving. Not saying its what men should do, but it is how theyre made
Noticed they never talk about natural STDs lol they always leave that out of the picture lol
Well it's technically the case. The desire comes from somewhere, no? Which means we were made to have this desire.
this is the case, instinctual desires come from biological wiring. Humans along with other mammals survived by women selecting the best men and a few men making multiple women pregnant. The mitochondrial dna proves that. Plus it is also the behaviour of other mammals.
executive function and the ability to resist base desire is also a part of our biological/evolutionary "design" you could even say it's the defining characteristic of our nature, it's what separates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom
I cannot stop laughing at Mr. Locario. I dont know if he's an actor, trolling theses guys or the women in his life are trolling him, but there aint no way hes got it the way he's telling these dudes. He's got a wife, a girlfriend and numerous chicks "on the side", all of whom who will let him make 100% of the decisions because they are all super submissive to his overwhelming masculinity? 😂😂😂😂 Yeah ok.
Yeah, dude's a clown. I know a punk when I see them and he's one.
The guy is delusion impersonated.
Exactly 😂😂😂😂 I just said I couldn't take him seriously.. as soon as I heard that particular comment I said he needs to stop talking because he is lying😂😂😂
He is actually the one who lacks masculinity which is why he has to overcompensate so much. “beat chest, look at me” .. you can also tell he has been “too emotional” at some point in his life to a woman who probably dumped him for it so now he is like “nope I will never be hurt” … true masculinity is the provider and protector but not because women can’t do it themselves but because true masculinity understands the value of a woman
Yeah, this guy is a clown fr as well as a walking stereotype.
I think where the "alphas" go wrong is by assuming that their way of thinking is the "natural order" or something like that. To prefer a submissive woman is one thing but to think submissive women are happier is just silly. You can be happy in your chosen lifestyle and recognize that other people can be just as happy with their own different lifestyle, it's not one size fits all.
THIS 💯
Agreed! I think the issue is media has shown a lot of independent women in a negative light, as far as being bitter, angry, or without a partner. So that’s the narrative that gets pushed!
So true, a dominant woman who wants to be can be perfectly happy in her lifestyle
Very well said. 👏👏
Exactly. I wonder how nobody asked them "So when you're extremely angry at someone, your homicidal urges are natural and therefore ideal to act upon?"...
“Cuz a lot of these girls they usually go home and cry at night from being lonely” 😂😂😂 It’s the only activity men can imagine single women doing at night.
Yes he's right julia
Yeah, is that how men imagine us when we are home alone ? 😂
What kind of "girls" is he around...teenagers?
@@achrafnew you are delusional if you believe women are capable of feeling alone...
@@ncphocused I think it's the law of attraction, insecure men attracts insecure girls 😅 idk or maybe that's how he expect his women to be when they are without him
Honestly, I didn't think any of them were betas, all alphas here. They listened to one another, respected one another and all held great points.
As the video went, this went from "alpha vs beta" more into just a male support group. Which was kinda cool to watch.
Lmao … this was not cool to watch these men think they’re superior… bunch of incels
Literally, once the submission question came in they slowly gradually started to open up more and connect
I'm surprised to see Tracy Chapman being classified as beta. 😂
Red Pill is always about male support. Black pill is about doom.
Totally agree. Think we need more of this.
I would have so much rather seen my dad cry in front of me than the terrifying bursts of rage that left us all walking on eggshells for days whenever he was around. It would have humanized him to me so much to see him show an emotion that wasn’t anger when he was upset. For years I was terrified of going to him when I messed up because I was scared of how he would react.
Strong masculine men don't fall prey to their emotions, they're composed and in control
@@museitup4741 okay, but the point is when you actually get to know these kinds of “tough, alpha” men they’re plenty emotional. All humans are. They just only exhibit their emotions through “manly” ones like anger, greed, and lust, or through other outlets like addictions, alcoholism, etc. Truly secure men should understand that crying is a healthy outlet sometimes instead of punching walls or drinking away their feelings.
@@Wraiven22 If you think seeing your dad break-down as a small child would have been a benefit to you, you're gravely mistaken.
@@Wraiven22 this is semantics. Yes there is a stereotype of alpha meaning aggression, but I don't think that's the "correct" definition.
@@amarjo351 Where did you get “break down as a small child” from? The person said that they’d rather see a man cry than punch walls because they don’t know how to work through their emotions.
“The final decision is mine”. That’s him asserting control. That’s not a relationship built on mutual respect.
ya lol he pissed me off
Yeah, except you might be surprised at how many women are into that. Like, ALOT of women are into that. Really speaks to our natural drives.
@@jasonhendricks4562 doesn’t mean it’s not toxic💀💀
@@jasonhendricks4562 "OUR natural drives"? do you have something to tell us, Jason? 💀
@Electroencefalografista yeah, those alpha male are a definition of toxic & fragile masculinity, so ironic 💀
Mr. Lame is abusive, Its very obvious. He has a lot confidence in places he shouldn't. Truly a BAN. Notice most of the guys side eyeing him . Hes truly a tool,
Blue suit is flavorful. !
I love the guy in braids. very emotionally intelligent.
I liked Kevin.
If you actually look past the "alpha male vs beta male" this video gives a great insight on different peoples opinions on relationships with other people.
The friends with women section was pretty worrying for me as a woman, in terms of how I need to be wary of how some men will not see me as a person and would only want to interact with me meaningfully if they want to sleep with me.
The whole thing was horrifying
@@jessy1982 Yea but this is pretty much common knowledge by now, no? Be wary of your male friends. Reality isn't always nice but it's the truth of the situation.
@@jessy1982 it goes both way, no need to label it as male thing
The amount of times girls flirt with a guy once he gets a girlfriend is crazy it’s like women like u more when u committed
It would be sooo nice to see submissive women vs dominant women. I feel like it’ll really put into perspective what it means to be submissive or dominant and not just in generally known ways.
Cuando hablan de dominante me imagino a una estadounidense gorda que no se baña y tiene el pelo pintado.
Y si quieres una mujer normal, las hispanas en su mayoría son dominantes.
This would be interesting because I consider myself a dominant woman, but I'm submissive in the bed. Day to day life my husband is still 100% my partner and his opinion matters just as much as mine when we make important deciscions. I am just what people have described as dominant.
@@rita8274your comment made 0 sense
@@luisfilipe2023 does it make sense that in the video there are men who identify as Alpha, not that I'm calling myself an Alpha bc I wouldn't label myself that way, and still make decisions with their wife about household and parental concerns?
This comment is nonsense. Relationships are not BDSM dynamics
I loved that: "emotional" is not the same as "emotionally unstable"
People say it turns ladies of being too emotional
@@switzjon8405actually most women find vulnerability attractive. There's nothing better than someone who can show and talk about their emotions
@@ze1743 Seems lately folks use that for ridicule or manipulation
maturity is required to understand that one. not a gender or sex.
@@ze1743 I think it is more about being human, not vulnerable.
hearing a bunch of men discuss what women truly want, being sure that they can know it better than the women themselves is so SURREAL like please go outside to touch some grass
I keep seeing your comments so clearly you have some other issues
@@bensheard3969 just because i am commenting under a video lol
You ask a fisherman how to catch fish you don’t ask a fish how to catch fish
You don’t ask a fisherman what a fishes innermost dreams are, you ask the fish. And also, if you’re comparing relationships to hunting there is something incredibly wrong.
@@CMelon-xe1qcperfect response lol
Do one with alpha males vs alpha females
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
why would they vs eachother lol this makes no sense?
Exactly. That male that said women should look up to male is funny af 😂 look up to you for what? I am not a baby
You might be conflating the idea of an assertive/ disagreeable woman with being ''alpha''.
omg they need to bring the wizard liz on here
Mr. Locario was the worst out of all of them. I had a boss just like that and I walked out because I could not respect his choices as a leader.
Mr. Locario needs to grow up.
He is extremely unattractive and insufferable.
Even though I am a guy, I really find him annoying.
I’d love to meet his wife and girl friend, they should do a separate video on that..
Miss Locario is insecure and ignorant. He is so toxic. Total waste of space.
really refreshing to see a middle ground this civil. Everyone was genuinely listening and being respectful
Coz it was only men in this :D
That's because 4 men are Alpha and don't have to argue with a beta cuck and the other 4 are beta cucks that like men LOL
@@DevillJin Look at the Muslim women video, I'd say that one beats this.
yea theres no women there that why
@@DevillJinthese men are not all the same. They come from different backgrounds, races, cultural identities, orientations, etc! Yes it IS possible for diverse people with diverse opinions to have the emotional intelligence to discuss different points of view and listen to one another. That is what you should take away from this! ❤ Our government and the mainstream media (which the gov't controls) wants you to believe otherwise. They want people to be apathetic and separate. Don't be naive and fall into that trap.
This is probably one of the best Jubilee discussion I've seen. Big props to everyone on both sides.
Please bring the Alpha men back to do a VS with Alpha Women!!!! 👏🏼
alpha women don't exist though, what even would that be?
@@TheMusicalPotatoes hello? We are everywhere. We just call ourselves type A because we aren’t cringe.
Are alpha women, feminist? Or conservatives types.
For what? they don't belong in the same conversation.
@@CrajsWuBoth? I mean they could be both? Just woman who take charge in general?
mr. locario is the definition of talking the most but making the least sense 💀
Everything he said made sense you just have poor comprehension skills.
Everything he said made sense you just have poor comprehension skills.
@@triplebeans4159cap fanboy
he contradicted himself so many times 💀
Typical dusty 😂
I think there needs to be a distinction between “being attracted to” and “recognizing as attractive.” I can recognize someone as an attractive individual without being attracted to them. There’s so much emphasis on there being an interaction between those two phrases, but they’re very distinct and can differentiate the experience of whether someone wants to pursue a person or not.
I'm glad someone else has this distinction!
I cringed at that entire topic discussion because I kept shouting THERES A DIFFERENCE BEWTEEN BEING ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE AND FINDING SOMEONE ATTRACTIVE and the fact that no one brought up that distinction made me mad
@@minahali684 lol
I think the assumption was someone you are physically attracted to. Or else “attraction” simply doesn’t apply in the question at all.
THANK YOU
To say the main reason why women are on antidepressants is because they’re lonely is insane. We have lives and experiences 🤯.
It's funny because the so-called betas in this video seem like the men that actually respect women, lol.
@@christophera4364well a beta isn’t associated with not respecting women if anything they put them on a pedastool too much
@@christophera4364 most of the people out there are not particularly respectable why should women be any different?
Mr. Locario should have just said, "I don't see women as people unless I own them" It would have been much easier than talking for an hour.
100%
nothing bad with that
women dont see average men as people so balance has been achieved
@IceKing7i are you a white supremacist? Most alphas weren't even black here
@@dawd21ew you’re pathetic
@@dawd21that’s terrible to say
I love how the topic of alpha and beta MALES ended up just as a conversation about WOMEN 😊
We are (in general) men's favorite subject 😁
I'm shock ....most men can't stand us women.
@@asinsodojrn Not for gay men!
it's because a woman chose these questions
thats how its defined
Mr. Locario is insufferable. I have so much respect for Kevin to speak against his fellow “alpha” counterparts, he seems so level headed.
😂 agreed. I felt really bad for the wife and girlfriend (if either exists).
He is the typical ignorant so called alpha male cause that is a aplha male an alpha male has absolute self control and he doesn't have any self control or self respect so he doesn't respect or takes the time to actually build a relationship with his wife.
There is no way he has multiple women unless he is very rich so delude.
They all aré..
yea im so glad someone like kevin was there
This turned out way more reasonable and respectful then I expected.
Holy crap…. All of these men whether Allha or Beta, actually took turns, showed respect, stated their disagreements and agreements well and could come in and out of the conversation naturally.
Their communication was insane high compared to most of this channeled guests.
Awesome conversation.
I just watched the liberal gay men vs conservative gay men and jeez…the level of respect and patience in this video compared to that one is so shocking. Idc about alpha beta. These men had a respectable conversation with one another
There were no women in this video
I agree!! I really appreciated all of the points of views because they came from a agree to disagree place
@@bigol9223Came here to say this 😂
@@bigol9223that and all hetero.
My heart goes out to some of these men’s partners
Part of mine does as well but they choose those men.
Especially purple shirt.
@@nofacenocase866 purple shirt is a piece of work. He said he didn’t want any backtalk. Like sir, is this your child?😂
@@PreciousForReal yes he wants a child. He showed all his insecurities in this interview.
Especially Mr. Lu whatever 😂😂😂
"a lot of these girls, they usually go at home and cry at night from being lonely"
As a woman, I can tell you that my favourite part of the day is when I'm by myself with nobody else around to eat away at my energy.
Same
@Clipped cope😂
Cope lol
Ong ive never been happier being single. I want to live with my kids and pets one day but I’m just scared to disappoint my mother that I’ve never married someone. Especially since my grandma is obsessed mentioning how I’m not married at 19. 24/7
@@arianaariel4197 Statistics show that women are the happiest with their life when they aren’t married/with kids. Men are the opposite, they are loneliest when they are single, not married/with kids. Men just can’t comprehend that women don’t have to rely on men for happiness. Because men’s greatest fear is being alone. That’s why they insult women by calling them “cat ladies”.
Kinda crazy that one beta had bigger muscles than all the alphas
Being beta was never about physical appearance. It's sort of a more laid back position as opposed to alphas who put themselves out often
I would say physical appearance is a large part of it, but of course, you're allowed to disagree.
@amar-vt6wr why would you say physical appearance is a big part of it?
Weird how Mr Locario, who perceives himself as a strong alpha male, felt to me like the "weakest" and most insecure one, especially with his body language. I feel like he's trying to hypercompensate a lack of self esteem, which I hope he will one day be able to find within himself (and not only through relationships with submissive women).
On the other hand, the quiet thinker Anthony showed us a lot of strength, power and self confidence, without the need of all that dominating BS. My absolute favorite.
I also really loved Kevin, who put himself in the "alpha" male group (hate that wording) but was really emotionally intelligent.
I agree, with his body language and the way he spoke in general I wouldn’t have even considered him an ‘alpha’ male, just one trying to impersonate that role. With what he was saying and tryna get the other ‘alphas’ to agree he just sounds like he lacks discipline and hasn’t come to terms with a few things because he’s been taught otherwise.
THIS
a misconception about the so-called "alpha" group is that they lack emotional intelligence, I don't think that the word alpha was very appropriate in the making of this video title because the meaning of "alpha" has so many different contrasts I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. These men didn't act like the "toxic masculinity" stubborn and ignorant alphas you typically hear about online and I think Kevin fits just fine with those other dudes, whatever their title is.
They’re forcing on a role with what they see themselves as 😂. No woman would consider him alpha.
It's giving dusty 🤧
How did they manage to find men who didn’t cringe calling themselves an “alpha” or “beta” lmao
Any dating app you can find plenty of "alphas".
I don't think they...at least the beta labels themselves as such. It's just jubilees title of the video.
@@emeliefr222 They pulled a fast one on them for sure 😂
@@keifer7813it's ironic
Unfortunately there are way too many out there who are proud of that :)
I never believed that some men actually label themselves as "Beta Males"
Most of the men who do that do it sarcastically. They care so little about the framework that they can joke about identifying that way.
It’s less of labelling oneself as a beta male and more of a proclamation of being completely opposite to those that refer to themselves as an “alpha male”
It's ironic
I don't get how someone can label themselves an alpha male. It's just like admitting you are a conservative asshole.
@@Solidude4It doesn't appear so. They are genuinely aware that this is who they are. They're just ok with it, that's all. They are not competitive or driven to win in that particular setting. In _'being a male'_ setting. And that's fine. Each to their own.
WTF I JUST HEARD 0:52 AND IT’S JUST THE BEGINNING
I thought the same thing. That was a crazy thing for him to say 🤦🏽♀️
Like instantly disappointed
I couldn’t watch it any further.
I think it was something about having too much sperm and wanting to share it as much as he can 🤔
Same. What a joke
This was actually one of the best Middle ground episodes because everybody actually listened to each other.
Facts 💯
truly, i loved this one. such diverse communicative discussions
Because there were no women involved in this episode
@@AKB19991 fax
@@AKB19991 there was other ones with only men and they still intrupted each other.
If men are designed to want multiple women then why do men whom have multiple women find it unfulfilling. People chase the things they believe will make them happy and at the end of the day ,connections and building genuine bonds is what makes people the happiest
(To keep it short and to answer everyone ,Building Genuine bonds is what people chase, having sex with someone is fulfilling a small part in building a bond but that foundation is unstable and not worth building a house on
Time , effort ,commitment and sacrifice is what goes into a long lasting bond take away one of these pillars the foundation is shaky )
Your comment needs more attention. I seen lots of videos of players saying that all those other women they were with were a waste of time.
In a way that says more about the women than it does the men who want multiple women. Or it points to the fact that it takes a while to properly find a mate that you have chemistry with, that you're compatible with, and attracted to overall. While also, you can be a man thats still uncovering new parts of his identity. So it could be bad timing on both sides. So, with that being said, you still could have multiple women by default.
Yes, it may start with the initial desire, but it can go beyond that.
excellent question. It's because what they are talking about is confused with hedonism.
Yes, men are designed to have the urge for multiple women, but a healthy way to apply it is for example:
>in a 20year marriage husband stepped out 2 or 3 times in a one night stand with a waitress he doesn't remember the name of. Not a reason to break up the relationship, you know it was just physical, like pissing in a friend's toilet, life goes on. He did his thing and came back.
>you haven't had sex in ages, fine if you don't feel like it, so he goes out and gets the physical urge out of him with a random girl, comes back, loves you the same, no issues.
>dead sex life in relationship? You can reignite it with a threesome, because you understand it will be just physical, but you can excite him and he'll be willing to have more sex with you afterwards. You can even organize the threesome yourself to make sure it's just business from the 3rd person's end too. This is sometimes even suggested in relationship therapy, because you know...psychology literature has this male experience well documented and studied, regardless of how women feel about it
Sleeping with tons of women and going all in on that urge however, is HEDONISM and that inherently ruins you mentally, that's where you lose out on love, pair bonding and ability to form meaningful relationships with your wife and kids. Hedonism will destroy a man and a family, but what I described above is something most people in the older generations did and it's what made their marriages last forever. Basically it's the difference between doing it a small handful of times in your life vs being the purpleshirt guy and having a wife, girlfriend and still sleeping around with others. There is a nuance
Same for married men most married men and women are not in a happy marriage. Meaning most people are not happy
Except I have seen both men and women end up not "happy" after being with one person. Maybe because Happiness is not a goal state, but a transitory state.
It took me whole lot of patience watching this video when they were explaining how men are designed to be with multiple women
It was so animal, bro.
For cats the girl cat can be with 4 boy cats but for humans you only supposed to be with 1.
There's evidence of that as well.
Cause I read books!
@@sokawai5 exactly it's so funny them using terms as alpha beta mate💀💀 like what are you? A pack of wolf or smth
If you heard it in your head as 'designed to be with multiple women', then I understand your issue.
However, back in reality, the actual prompt was 'designed to WANT to be with multiple women'.
Those two things are not the same.
You know how I know I'm designed to want multiple women? I'm sexually attracted to more than one woman! It's very simple.
Males are more proned to want to sleep with multiple women, doesn't mean they have to.
Women allow that to be a thing
Men harbor deep dark thoughts that they would never reveal to anyone.
PLEASE ASK WOMEN THESE SAME QUESTIONS. I would love to hear what they think about men in terms or heteronormativity. I think that it is very interesting how all of these men continued to steer the conversation and provide answers on the basis of what they think women “want”. It would be really interesting to see ladies answer these questions.
what is heteronormativity
women do not know what they want, what i’m saying sounds so incely but whenever they talk about relationships they usually say the opposite of what they actually want, i knew a lesbian girl and she also told me what i was saying is true, im not just some incel guy saying that
I think it's better to focus on how a woman reacts or how responsive she is based on what she says....don't just blindly listen and know your head what she says is not that important but how she reacts is key
Since they've been with countless women and actually have experience.
on a public platform? no way they tell the truth
If you are looking to "dominate" someone in a relationship, you are looking to stay stagnant, remain unchallenged and not grow together.
I disagree
It's not dominating. It's called being dominant or exercising head-ship. If a relationship is truly 50/50, what happens when they disagree on something? A coin toss? There is no growth or progress
@@micahsirles8319 what happens when the disagree? You talk it out. come to a conclusion that both of you are heppy with. It's that simple
@@micahsirles8319 it's called compromise if your so insecure you need to always get your way by surrounding yourself with weak people it dosent make you an Alpha it makes you pathetic.
@@gjjijji yeah well you’re also the type to not listen to women when we tell you we don’t want alpha so nobody cares about your opinion
Mr Locario is the biggest beta of the entire group. That dude is so insecure in his masculinity it’s hilarious
Incorrect
It's possible, but there's no way of knowing. Besides as far as I understand, the biological 'male hierarchy' is more of a spectrum, so 'alpha', 'beta' 'sigma' and 'gamma' e.t.c are unhelpful terms when speaking scientifically.
Facts
he would run away from any sight of danger and leave his girl behind
Lmao @@Enthalpy--
This was by far the most civil episode I've seen on this channel so far.
Derek's relationship seems so healthy just by the way he describes his partnership with his wife and the Love Menu idea.
Yeah
Derek is the one everyone should be listening to. Very. Very carefully. Take notes, guys.
@@vanessavidenova7not at all
@@vanessavidenova7he’s bi
He’s the main guy i was frr listening to. I think he’s so genuine & patient. He speaks like with honesty and wisdom.✨
''I have a wife and i girlfriend and i have sex with other women too 😇'' The fact he has no shame in saying this its crazy how bad of a mindset they have.
yeah that's crazy...😰
I’m embarrassed for those women. Their poor ph balances and flora…
Absolutely shameless. I want to know what his wife thinks of this madness.
They way I cringed at that part. I really want to sit down with all the women in his life and ask them what went wrong in their lives that led them to be with this man.
That’s why he needs a submissive women. He needs her to have such low standards of herself, so he can mentally convince her what he is doing is “okay” and not check him on it… he is the weakest man up there
He said, “they come home and cry at night from being lonely”
Sir, I’m sleeping comfortably and in peace 😂
I've met many girls who cry themselves to sleep at 2am being they are lonely. I work with a lot of women who are older and single. (Work in a corporate office in Japan). It's so common
@@Oversurge_that's the ones you meet its not all of us infact men be emotional more nowadays.
You’re in denial. People need connection.
@Khadijah Begum Great... You're an outlier. Most women who are alone do. Your one experience won't trump the many I have witnessed. And most women won't let you know they cry about being lonely since they all want to act like girl bosses.
@@khadijahbegum3546 yeah ... society is making men weak.
This was refreshing to watch, we don't have to agree but we can have a civil, respectful convo and build on that. Bravo!!!
Please do a "Alpha Male vs Women", would love to see that
A "Dominent men Vs Dominent women" and have the Locario be there 😂
@@mr.100rupees3it would be a bloodbath, but it would entertaining bloodbath
so alphas vs democucks XD
F
I second this!! I really wanted female voices in there when they kept saying what they think women want.
Mr. Locario is the meaning of “give an ugly guy a chance and he thinks he rules the world” 🤦🏻♀️ I get second hand embarrassment whenever he speaks☠️
he’s so insufferable i pity every girl that he manages to do something with
Yeah, he and that other Chad in blue are very annoying! The guy from the other side shouldn't have been high, it's an embarrassment!
💯 now and forever
he’s so out of touch with anyone but himself i’ve been waiting for someone to talk about him
This is the comment I was looking for. I’m surprised it took me as long as it did to find it lol.
I feel my face shrivel up every time Mr. Locario opens his mouth. I think it's a running theme for Jubilee to have the "annoying" character regardless of which side they are on.
Cuz he’s objective and realistic?
@@Mask1099if he was objective and realistic, there would not be a debate about this
@@peanutmurgler people have subjective opinions on objective facts, its called free will
@@Mask1099 doesn’t mean he’s opinion are realistic though
@@Mask1099 What did he say that was objectively factual?
This is one of the best debates I have ever seen. The men handled this maturely and gave each other time to voice their opinions. There was no emotional insults, it was just beautiful and interesting to watch.
Personally, I don't think it's healthy to label yourself as an alpha male or beta male. You just end up putting expectations and limitations on yourself. Don't be alpha, don't be beta, just be yourself. Btw, I loved the guys who participated in this, it was an insightful and civil conversation!
And yes, I am aware of the irony my username brings to this comment...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Written by a guy that calls himself ...
The”Alpha” mentality is dangerous bc “Alpha’s” most likely expect u to treat them as such, which is absolutely ridiculous. Who know wut would happen if u didn’t treat them as the “Alpha”
This is hilarious coming form someone who has Alpha in their username lol
I'm not sure putting a label on something comes with (unreasonable) expectations or limitations. A label like Alpha or Beta isn't fully fenced off as you can see in this conversation. You can still feel different, or act different about alot of things. There is no all including or all excluding deffinition in a label. Also I think it's great to label to know you've found a group of people where you belong.
You know Lucario is bad when the other “alpha” males are disagreeing with him lmao
LUCARIO LMAO
Can he got to the gym? No woman views him as alpha it’s a coping mechanism to feel better about himself. Doesn’t have his own physical self under control, but wants to feel control over others.
he reeked of insecurity
He is “The Bad Boy of The Dating Game”, of course he’s bad. It’s in the monicker.
Bro called him a pokemon 💀💀
It is difficult to sympathize with someone who believes they are superior.
exactly what I think. I just feel like they're psychopaths or smt
They are superior
psychopaths fr@@AAquese
They don’t believe they have superior value. They believe they are practically superior. That is to say they have superior materialistic traits in which calls upon a certain role, such as “alpha male”
by what metric? too many people in this world today for this to not be subjective; otherwise, it is 'society'(social norms) defining the metric. @@AAquese
32:25 😂😂😂 “wow you really caught me off guard” we all know what your up to buddy but great way to be subtle about it lmfao 😂
I really respect Kevin's capacity to recognize the toxicity within the "alpha community"
i recognize Kevin from Bling Empire and I would have never claim him as an "alpha" male:/
@@vlanjos4807 I was debating with myself half the video if that was the same Kevin, lol.
@@Ray03595 me tooo lmao
@@vlanjos4807 I’ve watched bling empire and totally saw him as an alpha male before this.
Kevin is a sweetheart, he is putting extra bass in his voice to rep the Asians males, but if they really wanted someone to rep the alpha male identity, they should have picked someone more naturally alpha like China Mac.
Its so embarrassing to call an alpha male your husband when he equates sleeping around with power
Facts
They didn't say that. They said having the choice.
And still being committed to your one is important. Only that one fool said other wise
When shtf women will naturally look for “alpha” males
At what point was that ever said? Like literally the only justification behind it that was mentioned by anyone was that they want to and they enjoy it.
Where's the 'I do it for power' part, I must have missed it, do you have a timestamp, or are you just using your telepathic powers?
I've never seen a comment section more filled with strawman arguments.
And that's saying something considering I've been to Twitter and Reddit.
Well, society praises men who have that capability.
Purple shirt guy amazes me that he was able to pull ANY women.
He doesn't fit with Alphas
Women love bad boys
In my opinion he’s the least masculine men there. Seems to be just ego and libido driven while all other men there are more principle driven. In my opinion ofc.
it’s not hard looks ain’t everything
he maybe doesn't pull women you know or the circles you get with.
those women he pulls you wouldn't probably even talk to or know they exist
Just a bunch of bro's having wholesome, civil conversation. Not a hint of anyone getting mad. I love it. Regardless of who you are, this is what debate should be like.
if someone next to me call themselves 'alpha mele' i would just simply burst out laughing
Same when women call themselves queen
@@truth6074 lmao true
@@truth6074 Can't forget the ones thst call themselves the baddest b***h
@@truth6074same when other men call each other kings / short kings like lmao
King and queen are different. People are not serious when they say that. You got TV shows named “king of the hill” and “king of the queens”.
As a woman, watching this is hilarious lmao
I laughed so many times😂 buncha goons lol
Mr Locario 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Did anyone else notice the giga chad face Keyen made after every time he spoke? 😂
I'm 100% sure you'd rather want to be with one of the alphas than the betas. Prove me wrong.
@@mayjailer44 More like a gaygah chad!
I’m a 6’5” 265lbs protective father and husband. I’ve cried in front of my daughters a handful of times. Mainly from pride of their accomplishments and my love for them. It only showed them that I’m a human who loves and feels.
Crying isn’t weakness. I have fought wars with tears in my eyes.
@@MarsOcto😭that’s so cute
Nobody argued crying in front of your children 🤦🏽♂️ If you had acted that way before meeting the mother of your children and constantly cried infront of her, she wouldn’t even be the mother of your children in the first place. That’s the whole point.
@@jay.420 u should rewatch what was said.
@@WallStBully im sorry rewatched?😭😭
"these same women go home and cry because they're lonely" best line I've heard in forever.
16:03 - “I think a lot of women now are not trying to be men, they’re realizing that the qualities they’re looking for in men, they’ve always had in themselves” 👏👏👏
Such a beautiful quote
Those are the women who end up alone. The career woman with 9 cats.
@@ceeIoc that's better than being w an alpha male
@@ceeIocthat's BETTER than being a man who can't even remember his kids birthdays and would come home to beat his wife just cause he had a bad day at work
@@prithikadevarajan4706 ok have fun with your beta lmao
I can’t stop laughing at the title card popping up saying “Anthony….. Beta”😂😂
he def does not look the part.
@@efafe4972Swole asl😂
@@efafe4972Beta is a mindset. A defense mechanism. And a disease of the soul.
All the betas look like they're part of the R@inbow brite community JS.
😂🤣
Nah jubilee crazy for this
this is the good crazy we need though
LMAO YEAH
😂😂
they always suprise
Everyone looks goofy here, this is just straight up sad.
One of the best and most respectful guests I have seen on this show
I like Derek and Kevins perspective on all of this the most. A perspective of balance. Push and pull. Mutual respect. Challenging eachother. Doing what’s necessary for different times and different cases. I don’t like the binary thinking of being a totally dominant or totally submissive person, especially in a relationship.
I was about to type more or less what you just said when i came upon your comment. I like the way they look at things. They both remind me of my husband.
Anthony was also great.
That's what a beta would say... 🤣🤣 jkjk that title took an hour of my time.
Justin and kevin I think were my favourite. But imo pretty much everyone here seemed respectful anyways tbh
I think this is what mentally healthy people want in a relationship. I applaud these men.
Guy in the 'submissive women are sexy' shirt embarrassed himself throughout the entire thing. Even the 'alpha men' disagreed with him lol
Ya he was something else. I liked the “alpha” in the white suit.
Same, I was pleasantly surprised by how civil and respectful everyone was too.
Yea but at the same time, his lifestyle is working for him and he found multiple women who subscribe to his “program”. Really goes to show that there’s someone out there for everyone
He’s the reason why alphas are so looked down upon. Some alphas aren’t too bad to be honest. But these beta males >
I truely believe they pay people to look stupid to make thwse videos edgy
Keyen saying he has gone to therapy and that its an "alpha" mans job to be able to handle and verbalize their feelings AND saying to use "emotionally unstable" instead of "emotional" was SO important. I don't typically agree with "alpha" men at all, but the way he paved the way for some future "alpha" men to be able to get help for their mental health and that is so, so important.
facts
I agree with your sentiment and well intentions but I simply lack sympathy for "alpha" males. They deserve to suffer the consequences of the persona that they want to achieve. They deserve to silently be destroyed from the inside out by their emotions for perpetuating this very toxic personality DISORDER.
He said how feeling emotion is normal but showing it to a woman is being emotionally unstable, I don't agree with that lol
Word
managing ones emotions absolutely but to "verbalize their feelings" is something that works for females rather than males. Men deal with them differently. When we say emotional, emotionally unstable is what is meant.
"relationships in the 50s were better" sure, the woman could'nt complain or she d' get beat up.
Not to mention she couldn't own anything unless it was in her husband's name
Maybe in like the 1890s.
In the 50s though? When people act like 70 years ago was paradise they are dumb but acting like the 50s were actually way worse than they were is even dumber.
wasnt the 50s also the era where housewives were taking tranquilizers just to get through the day LOL
Or get prescribed a lobotomy
@@DavidBoston464Marital rape was still legal in the US then
It's ironic that the most silly / embarrassing debates was actually one of the most civil and respectful conversations I've seen on here so far. No one disrespected the other speakers. Nice to see.
Lot's of nervous energy though, even among the alphas
Whys it embarrassing
Not silly at all, had I seen this years ago it would have save me from a bad relationship. Now maybe I'm a little touched and need things spelled out more than others, but I found the debate more useful in daily life than most of these that I just watch out of curiousity/boredom.
Because women weren't there.
Alpha would have insulted women. It's because men are there.
@@Whypeoplebad Women take everything as an insult. They’re very emotional and put their feelings over facts.
I feel sorry for any women who dated/dates the guy in the purple tshirt. I wonder what's his relationship like with his mom. Dude is bad news & broken.
He’s a tyrone 👨🏿🦱🧑🏿🦱
dude has serious s*xual predator vibes
I feel bad for his daughter
@@sharongutierrez25 Karma always comes around. He won’t want men like himself trying to get at his daughters
Well, this was such an interesting video. It's nice to see people talking about hard subjects and being polite and civilised towards each other. We need more of this these days.
I feel so sorry for the woman married to dude in the purple T-shirt
That's fine, as long as your wife, friends, and family respects and cares for you, anyone online is irrelevant.
That's barely a dude
why?. he is honest
@@Tripleblk-n3etf what are u saying 😂
@@yijiasun6988 he in an open relationship...he not cheating. His wife is more sexually active than him
Derek was very well spoken and real. I loved what he said about him and his wife switching bread earning roles to allow him to grow his business, that is what a true partnership is all about.
I love Derek
Loved Derek!
@@shellyagourmet9409but you wouldn't date a guy who bends down and get penetrated
Keep dreaming...she breaks his balls at home. I GUARANTEE THAT
Derek is gay for goodness sake
I still can't decide what's sadder, men labelling themselves as "alpha males" or men labelling themselves as "beta males"
Alpha because I assume the beta ones are being ironic
Both, Both are equally sad
honetsly labelling yourself as a beta is just so weak...
Maybe beta since alpha males are a positive thing
Beta would be more sad, as it stems from a lack of confidence. Alpha is just over confidence
This whole thing went better than i was expecting. A great conversation between a fairly wide array of men 💯
"I need a badass woman to match my badass energy" is the best
I like him. His fidelity to his wife is appealing from the start
The beta dude said it best. It’s all about your character, not your nature! And certainly not due to you being a male SMH!
Not acting on the temptation is more alpha behaviour than anything the alpha clowns believe and promote! What’s alpha about lacking the self control to give into carnal desires??? Nothing imo ! It’s not a flex
Having said that, I agree that ‘open relationships’ are better than people cheating. I don’t think they’re sustainable relationships but honesty and being upfront is key
No
Yes
all i’m gonna say is that us women can tell when an “alpha male” is actually just insecure. we all know who i’m talking about 😭
No I don’t
Who?
Mr Locario 100%
@@lemillion5980 His name starts with a noun.
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And this is why I avoid relationships💀. Imagine opening yourself up to a person, to find out they have other ppl lined up. Cheating will never make sense to me.
Communication and honest? That's the foundation of any relationship. If y'all can't openly talk about what you exactly want in a relationship, then you're not ready for one.
@@zkart8038you do know that some people are completely dishonest and they will lie to you while looking you in the eye?
You can have those “honest” relationships all you want but if your partner is lying every single time how can you get what you were promised? Trust is earned and when someone breaks it repeatedly they’re just broken and the relationship is not workable
not all people are like that. dont avoid some great because of the possibility that something bad might happen
That's the point..that red pill makes...women always complain about "Alpha men" who sleep around but not the beta male who will commit to you
You aint talking to multiple dudes
It’s crazy refreshing to see a diverse group of men talk like this. I was absolutely moved by the civil discourse.
this is one of the best episodes of middle grounds I've seen in a long time. no one tried to overtake the conversation, they let each other speak, and they genuinely found middle ground on quite a few topics. jubilee's casting team finally got it right
that's because the alpha males had postivite masculinity (except for Locario), and the beta males were just your normal average males.
@@Mikasks locario was being real
True it was so civil except Locario but even he wasn't the worst we've seen tbh
@@Mikasks Locario was the comic relief
@@Mikasks minus the Indian, the betas we’re all much younger than the alphas also
That social worker deserves all the flowers, he’s mentally secure. Also Eddie hit the NAIL🗣️ Kevin was irritated near the end but probably the most sane alpha. Who gave these men labels?
Yes!
Yes!
No
They gave themselves the title. It’s usually the self proclaimed alphas that aren’t
Totally agree.. I would love to have him as my partner
As a submissive women there is no way I’d submit to Mr.Locario. He has things all wrong.
Mr. Locario it's dealing with black women who have a totally different attitude thus, that is why he is seen so radical in comparison with the other alpha males in the discussion.
@@kintsukuroi6300 you are reacting to a black woman...
How are black women a different attitude? Just curious
Yeah, no sht sherlock. Notice how kint put it very respectfully. "with black women who have a TOTALLY DIFFERENT attitude..." I know most people lump all blacks as the same, but she is not. The OP says she is different than the stereotypical majority, so give her props. But she also cannot understand how most of any race think, if she's different. @@deadman4222
Then you won't be on his program, get you a beta that works on your program
From a sociology point of view other men decide if a guy is alpha or beta.