Maybe a hot take but, if the MCU decide to introduce a new version of Wolverine, I think he should only appear in the X-men sequel, not the first film. This would not allow the MCU X-men team to stand on their own, showing they don't need to be dependent on Logan in order to be a sucess (unlike the Fox films) and would help to portray Logan as this brooding loner. So, when he finally meet the team, there would be a huge contrast since Logan is used to do things on his own meanwhile the X-men were trained together by Xavier and know how to work as team.
YES my thoughts exactly, they need to hold out on him. Maybe tease him in the post credit scene if the first movie but let the team dynamic work without him first
@@WholeShebangYT Exactly. The first x-men film should be a coming of age story, showing the X-men (probably the first class) growing from this inexperient students to heroes, embrancing their role of fighting for a better world for humans and mutants. The second film should be about them (in particular Scott) learning to adapt to new members like Logan (and maybe the Giant Size team), who aren't teenagers nor are used to work as part of their team. And the third film should have the X-men and their enemies (probably Magneto and the Brotherhood) teaming up to fight against a big common threat. That way their trilogy would show the growth of the X-men as team and their dynamics, while also establishing a main theme for their films, about understanding each other and working together (which is the X-men message against prejuice and intolerance).
Definitely not a hot take I’ve seen that idea thrown around and I agree with it, Xmen need a break from Wolverine in the first film cause general audiences have been exposed to him enough and hell over shadow everyone else in their eyes, other than that I think the main characters who need to be on mcu Xmen (discounting Xavier cause we know he’s on the team since he founded it lol) are Cyclops, Jean and Storm those 3 are most iconic in that team that also fox didn’t do justice for, now idk how many you’d put in a team for Xmen cause the number and roster changes a lot but let’s say Six, there’s heaps of characters to chose if it was my choir I’d add, Rogue, Gambit and Nightcrawler (I’m sick of my boy Kurt not being in main Xmen but just supporting character😭)good even mix of girls and boys so it’s not a complete sausage fest lol
I completely agree and I think wolverine should have his own trilogy going at the same time. He’s too much of an interesting character to just be a side character of the X-Men but he shouldn’t be the main focus of those movies, so having him be a slightly lesser character in the X-Men movies is alright if he’s got his own movies to tell stories
@@alexandrefrauches132 I feel like the mcu should start with the original 5, than introduce the uncanny x-men in the sequel. Imo the O5 rarely get represented well.
Another thing that makes Wolverine being short make sense is that the real-life animal he is named after is also short. The wolverine is a relatively small and stocky weasel that is known for being vicious and can take on prey that's many times its size. There's even this story about a wolverine latching onto a polar bear's throat with its jaws and suffocating it to death. That's the kind of vibe and aura I'd like to see from Wolverine in future Marvel movies: a short hairy man with a short temper who can take on and lay the paws on opponents far bigger than himself all because of his rage and ferocity. Heck, we even see a glimpse of that in the comics with Wolverine giving no fucks about taking on 9-foot-tall powerhouses like the Hulk. The sooner we see something like that in theaters, the better.
Not necessary. I am a 5,3 dude, I'm short. And I don't care, I don't need to be represented based on my physique, I just want to have a good time. I just want a good actor, a suitable actor who understands Wolverine DEEPER than superficial shit like his height or any other physical traits. His personality, his story, his conflicts, that's what matters, I don't care if he's 6ft, 7ft, 10ft tall. Representation is much more meaningful if you can emotionally connect with the characters rather than just connect with them through physical traits alone.
@gtoyadhatagyab8013 I understand not feeling it to be an absolute must, but it wouldn't hurt. It's not just a superficial trait, his height is in his very name. A small, stocky critter crazy enough to take on a moose solo. Yes, the acting is most important but a Wolverine that's at least 5'5" wouldn't hurt. It's not about representation, it's about embracing the insanity of the comics
its not about short people respresentation..we dont care if you feel represented. but theres nothing wrong with us wanting to see a short wolverine just to see an accurate version
@@formerjzmyou did see an accurate version and it looked ridiculous. The shortest he could be is like 5'7, James McAvoy would've worked if he wasn't already Xavier in the past.
@@TheWuCepticon1981 no we didnt see an accurate version...we saw a 4'11 version and that looked ridiculous...the guy wasnt even actually 5'3 but i agree that he can atleast be 5'5-5'8
Another thing the MCU needs to handle in Wolverine is his dynamic with the other X-men. Outside from Rogue and Xavier, the Fox films got Logan dynamic with the rest of the team either wrong or barely explore. The greatest exemple is the Scott/Jean/Logan love triangle. The films portrayed Scott like he's obstacle between Logan and Jean, trying to make the public want Logan to steal Jean from Scott. In the comics is much more complex: Jean, despite feeling empathy for Logan, is loyal to Scott. Logan, despite feelings for Jean, respect her choices and while he and Scott may have arguments, they both see the good in each other and share mutual respect. There's some versions (exemple: X-men 97) that show that Logan doesn't try to have a relationship with Jean bc he doesn't think he's good enough for her, representing how Logan doesn't see himself as this great hero others see him as. This is why he works so well with the X-men, because they are all outcasts who, by using their powers to help humanity, they find their own potential to be heroes.
@@WholeShebangYT Not only that, but also Logan relationship with the other X-men. The biggest one for me being his dynamic with Nightcrawler (one my top 3 favorite super heroes btw). In the films the two only share a brief line but, in the comics they are one close friends, with Kurt's fun loving optimistic personality acting a complement to Logan's agressive and pessimistic attitude.
EXACTLY. Stop forcing this "love triangle" nonsense that was NEVER a thing. Jean loves Cyclops, not Wolverine. Don't even get me started on the comics making up some polyamorous bs to try and "justify" this. They bring that to the movies, I will make sure to boycott ALL X-Men movies for good measure.
They're so afraid of Wolverine being cast with a short actor, its hilarious haha. They want Wolverine to be tall/handsome so they can live vicariously through him on the big screen or something, lmao. These people must have forgotten that Tom Holland is literally 5'6 and playing Spider-Man. Jackie Earle Haley is literally 5'5 and played Rorschach, who was everyone's favorite character in the Watchmen movie. This excuse that short people "won't work on screen" is just them scrambling for anything they can come up with.
His Napoleon complex is a huge part of his character. Sabertooth calling him runt while towering over him is what I want. And if they get a younger character they need apply aging makeup so over the years they can peal it back a little to make him look the same age the whole time. Honestly Rip from Yellowstone is exactly how Wolverine should act and talk.
@@VengefulJarl Right, I always thought so. And always enjoyed Juggernaut calling him "Tiny". Do The Juggernaut justice and give us a sawed off self conscious Logan who us often at odds w everyone, including many close allies. Not simply calling Scott a dick but being (for instance) physically separated from Hank, or Scott before they do each other real harm by Emma Frost who we have yet to see in all her conflicted bitchy powerful AF glory.
@@ToolbeltbunnygirlAgreed, I think we could have a greater storyline with Emma and Scott personally, as he developed better as a character with her in the comics as well, really stepped up into a real leadership role.
Personally I could see Radcliffe or Josh Hutcherson as Wolverine. Ignoring that he was already in Thor Ragnarok (no one will care), people say they want Karl Urban, but I’d want him for the slightly taller, slightly more animalistic Sabertooth. Let him tower over Wolverine and call him “runt”. Now THAT would be perfect! Edit: If they really are rebooting the entire MCU as rumored, let’s have Wolverine and Captain America talk about both having lived through WWII. Give us Wolverine’s (perhaps misguided) loyalty to and trust in Nick Fury. Wolverine has so much to explore in a larger Marvel universe outside of his connection to the X-Men, but it really only works if he has been around for longer.
@@melancholyentertainment I mean, a slightly younger Logan wouldn't be too bad (early to late 30s at least). At least someone who could carry the franchise for the next 10 years further.
Personally, I'm more of the opinion that Daniel Radcliffe would be a better Wolverine than Josh Hutcherson. Both are short actors, sure, but Daniel looks like he could pull off the gruff hairy man visage more convincingly, while Josh is a tad too good-looking.
Cant believe I’m finally seeing other people say Josh Hutcherson, he’s probably my second pick after Radcliffe, no one can convince me that any actor is a better choice than Radcliffe, but Hutcherson is a pretty good choice I do have to say though, whatever actor we get is gonna have to bulk up in muscle at least a little bit I also think Christian Navarro wouldn’t be that bad of a choice either, and he’s just about the only actor that’s actually 5’3 and young enough for the role, but imo he’s got too much of a pretty boy look
For me, he should be no taller than 5'8. He doesnt have to be comically short but at least shorter than half the mcu roster. I also think he needs to wear the brown suit. Hugh wears the iconic yellow and blue now. This version should wear the brown and orange one to further separate him from hugh and the audience completely sees this is a different wolverine
Taron strikes me as potentially being another Tom Holland in that he's far to young, and babyface visually, to be playing the character he's meant to be playing, instead playing a bastardized version of the character if he got the part.
@@markanderson7236 I believe that all Disney + shows moving forward need to be grounded and more lower budget. Shows like daredevil, a new punisher show, nighthawk, white tiger, night thrasher. Some of these characters are unknown but I think that’s a good thing.
I think when it comes to short Wolverine people forget they got a 5ft5 actor to play a comic book accurate Rorschach on the Watchmen movie, which is way darker than anything the MCU has ever done and it still worked. People love that Rorschach.
Exactly; so many people keep saying "short Wolverine won't work" are just purposely saying that because their personally biased for wanting a tall/handsome Wolverine instead, which is ridiculous. Like you said, Rorschach was literally 5'5 in the Watchmen movie and was everyone's favorite character. Tom Holland is literally 5'6 and playing MCU Spider-Man with a 2 billion dollar hit movie under his belt. People have no idea what they're talking about.
@@Josh-si6ds dude u just sound stupid with all of that crap we saw a 5 3 Wolverine and it looked horrible I wanted a short Wolverine until I saw that I’ll take a 5 7 but 5 3 hell no and tbh if anyone insecure it sounds like it’s you I’m 5’10 I’m fine with my height if anyone mad that they haven’t had someone to represent them it you little short king.
Personally, I don't care all too much about height for the next hypothetical Wolverine actor. That said, if any of the casting agencies do happen to find a short actor who fits the role, definitely go for it. It only makes sense. I think the people who are strongly opposed to a hypothetical short Wolverine only know Jackman's portrayal and are unfamiliar with the source material. Hollywood glazers are also partially to blame. The thought of a short, ugly superhero being dominant over others makes them uncomfortable. You can thank the beauty industry for this mentality.
I prefer Hugh Jackman Wolverine over the comic Wolverine.... There i said it. Idgaf it it's not comic accurate. That version of Wolverine is my go-to. From his animilistic fighting style and yelling to his physique and height. I even liked origins. This version of Wolverine is such a badass.
Dude, the MCU is going to reboot after secret wars so basically yes Hugh Jackman has to be in the MCU before it gets rebooted. We already confirmed that Hugh Jackman’s going to continue as wolverine in the MCU.
It’s clear that Hugh Jackman is going to continue being Wolverine especially after that movie making over $1 billion Kevin Feige and Disney basically have told him that he can be the character until he decides to retire which honestly is the right thing to do the guy been the character for 24 years. He deserves to be the one to side when he hangs up Wolverine claws.
@@TheSSUltimateGoku well they already decided that Hugh Jackman is gonna continue as wolverine for the rest of the MCU until after secret wars. Besides, he already retired once as Wolverine for seven years, he’s not hanging up the claws after Deadpool and Wolverine besides they’re gonna reboot after secret wars and start over
One thing I NEED the mcu to do is take inspiration from x men evolution (great show by the way) is to omit the love triangle between Scott, Jean, and Wolverine. Even if mcu Logan still has feelings for Jean, I’d much rather him put those feelings aside so she and Scott can have a healthy relationship (kinda like x men 97 as well)
@@aidanshowers8366 knowing Disney none of this straight relationships are going to happen bc of Disney I wouldn’t be surprised if half the X-men are gay or lesbian
The next person to play Wolverine could be 5’3, that still doesn’t mean he’d potray him better than Hugh Jackman. And I thought Cavill playing him in that one scene was pretty funny but I honestly don’t see him being a long-term Wolverine.
Exactly, people are wanting to base everything on his height.... Does not mean that he will be a good actor. He might have the height but it doesn't mean he can do it.
Hear me out. I think Zac Effron would be a good pick. he’s the right height and build and can grow facial hair. He also doesn’t have a soft little voice like Daniel Radcliffe.
Yeah, I think the MCU Wolverine should be anywhere from 5’3” to 5’8”. I will admit 5’8” is a decent bit taller than comic book Wolverine but it’s closer in terms of accuracy than say 6’2”.
I hope they don’t ever go with this idea at all. Sorry that shit is gonna look corny in live action. He doesn’t need to be almost 5 feet tall for y’all to enjoy the damn film. Everything doesn’t need to be comic accurate. Just let him be 5”8 and stop the meaningless complaints. He doesn’t have to be 6 feet but he damn sure doesn’t really need to be 5”3 either. It doesn’t do anything for the character forreal, he’d still be an angry loner either way.
I dunno one of the best things to come from Hughs impact on the character is that Wolverine has been rocking hot (though more unconventionally in drawn mediums) since the 2000's dunno if you watched '97 but Wolverine kinda got it going on i always figured it makes sense he has a nice face because of all that play he gets also that weird coloration of his eyes is a small detail that i really like
I think saying Hugh “needs to go” is careless. He is THE superhero actor 26 years, 10 movies, damaging his body with PED’s at almost 60 years of age. Reeves, Snipes, Downey jr, no one has anything on his workload. He can stay as long as he wants. Because he’s earned it, no matter what that means. Even if it means it’s till he’s 90
The MCU should do what was done in animation After the incredibly faithful/successful and iconic X-Men the Animated series in the 90s where Wolverine was the star of the show the next animated show had Logan take a backseat so other characters could be highlighted This is what the next set of X-Men movies should do and like X-Men Evolution the MCU Wolverine should be a mentor character not the lead
The most important aspect is the quality of the acting. If he's short even better, but it's not the most important thing. I agree on the brown uniform!
I think wanting to keep x-23 is understandable. Where is Hugh Jackman's wolverine has been around for a while and should have gotten his final send-off already, x-23 still new and has a lot to offer. As well as of course the actress as x-23
Don't know why I'd rather go with someone like Hugh Jackman or Henry Cavill for Wolverine kinda like I'm used to it them being Wolverine tho. Even their feral personalities are not poor and they do a good job with it. Not because of any personal issues for any short kings out there.
Hugh Jackman is the greatest superhero movie actor of all time. His run is undefeated. They practically replaced every MCu character around him except him. He is bigger than the X-men. Hell his whole career hinges on it. A fantastic actor who you will struggle to name 3 other things he has been in, you have watched and now remember outside anything to do with Wolverine.
6:23 is such a bad take, his origin is not uninteresting at all, don't think they should re tell his origns and the X-Men origins film was bad but saying his origins are the most uninteresting about him is diabolical 😂But agreed it is unnecessary too retell
We should just get a Disney Plus Wolverine Anthology show where we get stand alone episodes across Wolverine’s whole life Almost like 30 Minute to hour long version of the Wolverine Variants scenes in Deadpool and Wolverine The first episode could be based on the 2000s Origin comic but more faithful then X-Men Origins the movie And each episode could end with Wolverine experiencing some trauma leading to his mind healing and removing his memories We could see episodes in various wars specifically WW2, We could see a Weapon X episode where he’s experimented on so we don’t know whether that’s the reason for his memory loss or whether it just is his mind healing the trauma We could see a Wolverine VS Hulk episode where they eventually team up to fight the Wendigo maybe Wolverine has been sent by Alpha Flight and Department H to deal with the Hulk or even SHIELD And we could see alternate future Wolverines like a more faithful Old Man Logan episode with more Marvel characters in it Just anything before after his time with the X-Men so long as the X-Men aren’t featured and it’s an anthology show where nothing really has to connect but the show in full can say something about the character and each episode says something individually
The actors I’d probably be okay with are - Jared Keeso (he’s actually Canadian) - Milo Gibson (probably would make the most accurate looking Wolverine) - Zac Efron (he’s not a pretty boy anymore and he’s build) - Daniel Radcliffe (he’s ripped, can play feral and is almost the right height) - Scott Eastwood - and MAYBE Henry Cavill BUT if he was made to look a little shorter or they got Jacob Elordi or Wolfgang Novogratz to play Cyclops to make him look shorter
DO NOT MAKE HIM SHORT! RIDICULOUS! IT DOESN'T WORK WELL, IN THE MOVIES! I'VE BEEN AN X-MEN FAN SINCE THE LATE 80'S! ALSO GET RID OF THAT YELLOW UNIFORM! THE BROWN ONE, WAS ALWAYS THE BEST ONE! IN THE COMICS!
It'd be so easy to incorporate his yellow and brown suit in a practical sense, too. Just make it so the cage match fights he's in all have outlandish and unique suits, and that's just the way the joint is run. Boom, easy explanation.
I also usually think Logan's brown and yellow suit is usually better than his blue and yellow suit. I gained more love for the latter, and I still love both suits.
I’m 5’4.5” and making him 5’3” seems too silly. 5’6” to 5’8” would work just fine. Nobody takes Short Kings seriously. I just hope the X-Men and Wolverine get a great story and done right.
The best person would have been Jon Bernthal but he’s obviously is the Punisher I feel like Jon could have played the more lead character from X-Men TAS or taken a secondary/mentor role like X-Men Evolution
@@vengeanceconscious9774I just don’t see them prioritizing height as a casting decision for Wolverine considering the mass majority of people don’t even know that Wolverine is supposed to be short to begin with.
Things I want: Wolverine needs to be short like in the comics, but he can't be too lean. He must be very bulky. He should have the same physique as the Hulk, only shorter in height and much hairier. While I liked his costume in Deadpool & Wolverine, I prefer the version of the costume with trunks. Superhero movies these days tend to avoid trunks. Even Superman, perhaps the most recognisable superhero design with trunks, lost his during the awful Snyderverse. Thankfully, the new DCU Superman has his trunks, so that gives me hope the DCU Batman will probably have his trunks too. If all goes well, I'd like the MCU Wolverine to have his trunks as well. I want his history with Alpha Flight to be canon to the MCU. We don't need an origin film, but they should at least mention he was a part of the team before joining the X-Men. I'd also like it if they at least mention he fought the Hulk while working with Alpha Flight. On the topic of teams, he should be a member of both the X-Men and the Avengers. He has to be a father figure to Kitty Pryde, Jubilee, Rogue, X-23, and Black Widow (assuming they bring her back to life somehow). Wolverine needs to have history with Sabretooth. Sabretooth always tortures Logan every year on his birthday, so I want that to be shown here. His friendship to Nightcrawler and Colossus needs to be shown. We absolutely NEED the Fastball Special, especially if we're getting Wolverine and Colossus in their comic accurate heights. He needs to wear the cowl most of the time. It should only really be removed when he's out of the costume, which should be rare. He needs to call everyone bub. He needs to have his cigar and needs to drink often. Lastly, I hope they don't shy away from making him a tiny bit pathetic at times. He's a simp for Jean.
You people need to get a life. Where is your appreciation for what Hugh Jackman has done with the character?? He gave the first Oscar worthy performance as a superhero in Logan
just because we are interested in seeing what a short wolverine would look like doesnt mean we dont appreciate hugh jackman....tf are you talking about.
I don't really mind who plays Logan as long as they get the character right and aren't especially tall. Wolverine's height is a pretty substantial part of his identity, he's supposed to be this short, nasty dude who hits way harder than someone his size should. Much like an actual wolverine. He doesn't have to be 5'3, I would be fine if he was just visibly shorter than the other X-Men.
Everyone keeps saying stupid shit like “but there’s no actors accurate to wolverine’s height” as if cbm’s don’t have a history of picking up no names, Hugh jackman himself has gone on to state he was a “nobody” before landing the role. Hell they shown they can still pick fresh faces recently with the miss marvel casting, not only was iman vellani the perfect age and ethnicity she wasn’t even an actor(but clearly talented) and was already a hugh comic fan and fan of the character. The new actor for Wolverine doesn’t need to be someone who is famous and is barely below average height, get someone accurate who can act they have the money and resources(there DISNEY) it wouldn’t be hard
X 23 doesn't make any sense when mutants are introduced shes a xmen evolution continuity character and a clone wtf would you introduce a clone before the offical leave that all new all different shit alone
Agree with you on all the things! Short hairy king. Berserker/animalistic side. Mysterious/slowly reveal origin with clues. Not the protagonist: ensemble team member who slowly softens through relationships with other team members: Storm, Jean, Kitty... Hugh Jackman is great and I'll always love his Wolverine but I think the public is ready for a more comics accurate portrayal.
I’m also a fan of the Radcliffe fan cast. I don’t know if I’d want Wolverine to show up immediately because I’d like to see some X-Men that haven’t been as prominent in the movies to show up first. He definitely should show up eventually, though.
hugh jackman has made a connection with all the fans . The way he plays Wolverine can never be replaced by any actor out there .Cuz we are connected to the xmen that we cant even imagine another actor playing wolverine. So please hope that Hugh Jackman will play wolverine in the future.
I think the actual actor that did the body of "Short King" Wolverine would do a wonderful physical representation, I haven't seen his acting chops, but he definitely has the look. I personally like the idea of X-23 with the X-Men, and Logan being gone, maybe the coated in adamantium run, and save his return for an after credits as Patch for an X-23/Kitty team up where they both are tracking him down between first and second X-Men films, getting to discuss their experiences with Logan, Kitty having more of course, Laura maybe not having as many, if not her being Dafne's OG character universe displaced after Secret Wars, and bring him home in time for Marvel's X-2. It offer's some great comic tie ins, allowing his complicated character his own film to show his past with existing characters, and we can keep the focus of Marvel's X-1 on Cyclops and the rest of the team, while still building on them and Wolverine's history in his own film with a few flashbacks for setting the tone of how they each personally deal with his grizzeled demeanor, and their personal relationships. As far as what Marvel will do, it will probably be another Dark Phoenix Saga, as they can't seem to get away from it. Although I much prefer Scott's character development after Jean, when he's with Emma, and wouldn't mind seeing that on screen instead, let's change it up I've seen the Phoenix Saga soooo many times since I was 6 years old, comics, original 97 run, and both movie runs just as popular versions of the media.💯
@@WholeShebangYT the actors I’d probably be okay with are - Jared Keeso (he’s actually Canadian) - Milo Gibson (probably would make the most accurate looking Wolverine) - Zac Efron (he’s not a pretty boy anymore) - Daniel Radcliffe (he’s absolutely ripped, can play feral and is almost the right height) - Scott Eastwood - and MAYBE Henry Cavill BUT if he was made to look a little shorter or they got Jacob Elordi or Wolfgang Novogratz to play Cyclops to make him look shorter
Mark Walberg should play Wolverine, he has the right build and height plus he's a good actor, they would have to make his body a little hairy of course.
I think you’re speaking way too soon when literally Hugh Jackman’s gonna be in part of more MCU projects as wolverine in the future, especially in secret wars, and doomsday you’re literally thinking that we are gonna going to have an MCU wolverine probably until until the MCU ends for the next MCU 2 where they start all over in this time and since now Disney has the rights for the X-Men in fantastic four they can make up movies here and there set up the entire genre, but but they’re not gonna replace Hugh Jackman not yet when literally he’s gonna be in doomsday and secret wars
i agree with mostly everything aside from logan being a supportive character the reason why live action wolverine worked so well is for that simple fact he was always there hving a wolverine in the mcu just be a background character just doeasnt seem like it would be sucessful maybe a few people would enjoy it but not enough to show mcu that they want another wolvwerine movie or more of him in the mcu
5’3 and 200 plus pounds of muscle with a gruff voice that can act…I don’t know where people think they are going to find an actor that looks like that. People are throwing out Daniel Radcliffe and he just doesn’t look the part and he’s taller than 5’3. Too boyish looking. Even in his 30s, he looks childlike. 5’8 or 5’9 is the average height and far more probable in finding a match.
Wolverine is quite silly in general, bro is a short hairy immortal canadian that smells bad and has a napoleon complex with a goofy hairstyle and I think thats a part of his character that makes him likeable
@@redstone5062 They can make him a little taller than 5'3. Say 5ft5 or 5ft7... ... Emile Hirsch would be an option ▪︎ He's only 5ft7 and he's a great actor (see ''Lone Survivor'') ▪︎ he's young enough (38 years old), so he can do a bunch of movies in the MCU ... Gael García Bernal (5ft7) would be another interesting choice. Good actor.
Bro no offense but Wolverine is too popular to be a side line character… and this is all about money.. X men literally tried to 3 films to not include Wolverine and they literally all flopped. It’s clear as day that even Wolverine is the soul and heart of the x men films
Shahar Issac is my number one pick. His most notable role is the disciple Peter in The Chosen and has that short and angry look to him and perfectly captures logan on the show
@@anotherway6427bc its lowkey goofy. I was like that in early years of high school bro wolverine shouldnt be the height of a highschooler who hasnt hit puberty
@@gr3saeyend So you’re dogging on people for something they can’t control, yet for decades have performed just as well in cinema/theater as their taller colleagues, because it seems goofy to you… PERFECTLY RATIONAL and not at all dickish:). If you have a personal preference for a taller wolverine actor that is fine, but to indicate that smaller guys can’t play impressive or thrilling action packed roles due to them being smaller is simply wrong and sad.
@@anotherway6427 yea it is pretty goofy mate I’m not saying he cant be 5’8 or around there I’m saying 5’3 is way too small and literally the size of a middle schooler like idk how im supposed to take that srsly when hes being idle 😭
honestly i think bill skarzgard could be a crazy wolverine. think of his presance in it just a seemingly mindless killing machine who is far more intelligent than he seems.
Logan fights similar to Thorfin from Vinland Saga. Both of them are small and therefor, utilizes their agility and speed when it comes to battles. This is also why is think its very important to get a small actor for Logan because imagine they made a Vinland saga movie and Thorfin is like 7 foot tall. People would be pissed off and rightly so, its the same thing for Logan.
Emile Hirsch ▪︎ He's only 5ft7 and he's a great actor (see ''Lone Survivor'') ▪︎ he's young enough (38 years old), so he can do a bunch of movies in the MCU ... Gael García Bernal (5ft7) would be another interesting choice Taron Egerton and Milo Gibson are good choices too
Sorry, but honestly, does Wolverine even need to be short? If you want short Wolverine, watch the animated show or read the comics. I'd rather get the Calvilerine than anyone else
@criticwhosalwaysright1404 Except you're wrong because if you were right, then Hugh Jackman's Wolverine would have never been a hit, but he was. Wolverine's height is not the foundation of his character.
Something that would be cool if Sectet Wars ends up being a harder reboot and brings back Steve Rogers (either bringing back Chris Evans or giving us a new Steve for the rebooted universe, it would not surprise me if they use the reboot to bring back characters the MCU killed off and age down both them and other characters whose actors are getting too old for action films (and get actors who are cheaper)) is if they gave us something set in WW2 with the Howlies and there's a guy they call 'Jim' who always seems to avoid getting shot even in the densest firefights, but he's just one of the ensemble and not the focus, and then at the end we see Steve in the present cross paths with 'Jim' who somehow doesn't recognise him, and _that's_ how we first meet Wolverine in the MCU. He shouldn't even pop the claws in WW2 and perhaps he doesn't have the iconic hair and instead has the standard military buzzcut so it's not until Steve encounters him in the present that we see him with the hair and he pops the claws, so those of us who know what to look for would realise it, but for everyone else, that meeting would likely end up on the level of Nick Fury's appearence at the end of Iron Man 1.
I genuinely think that Daniel Radcliffe will BREAK EVERYTHING WITH HIS ACTING if he gets to play the Wolverine. But IG the mantle will most probably go to Henry Cavill now that they've already introduced his cameo in DP&W. Then again, I don't mind that as well (other than the height part), 'cause Cavill is a LEGEND & he so deserves a legacy role. But leaving that aside. I really want the MCU X-Men Part 1 to NOT include Wolverine in it at all. Maybe Laura X-23. But not Wolverine. I think Wolverine should become a part of the team from the second film - so that the audience is allowed to see how great an X-MEN film can be w/out Wolverine & then get him back - so that now the X-MEN are full team. Because no matter what anyone says, the X-MEN are never FULL, or say WHOLE w/out Wolverine. He is one of the most important part of the team, alongside Storm, Jean, Cyclops & Professor X. But yeah, nothing's in our hands. All we can do is hope. Let's see ...
@@galosniper7010 I consider First Class a great movie, but TBH, it's not really THE X MEN YK. I mean it's more of a story covering the OG conflict & relation b/w Professor & Magneto than X-MEN. It doesn't have Jean or Cyclops or even Ice Man or Angel, I mean they are the CLASSIC team. Nevertheless, if an example has to be given, then I think X-Men Apocalypse is a great example at how to handle an X-Men film without Wolverine (I mean, he did have a cameo but that doesn't count). But even w/ that film, Cyclops really seems like a novice and a side-character. Now, we need an authentic interpretation w/ Cyclops in the forefront, handling the team, spearheading the movie. Marvel will have to establish Cyclops as the main lead in the films b/c that hasn't ever been done so far in the movies.
One of the most underrated depictions of the X-MEN is xmen evolution. I really like how they made wolverine a mentor figure for a young scott summers and jean grey and he was present, but didn’t steal the show away from the main characters. I also really enjoyed how the show played with the xmen and brotherhood teaming up from time to time because of the fact that both sides are working to make mutants an accepted group, one just wants mutants to rule while the other wants mutants to be equal. I think one of the most difficult things the MCU is going to have to do is properly explore the world of mutants fully including all of the factions and stories. It definitely makes me worried that the MCU is going to sideline a team in order to focus more on mutants since they already did that with the inhumans.
I don't think it matters if a live action Wolverine is short. Bats are small but no one cares about Batman being huge. And he's not even really being drawn as short in comics. Just because his code name is Wolverine doesn't mean he has to be short. Hugh Jackman is proof of that. The actor has to be able to give off that gruff dangerous but has a heart of gold vibe and Hugh Jackman did that perfectly.
@@Alf-gm7tf No I don't think that will be the case because Kevin Feige has been friends with Hugh Jackman since X Men 2000 and Logan is one of the most influential movies of all time and for those reasons I believe they will handle Laura/X23 the right way
@@Alf-gm7tf Tony stark is an unlikeable boy boss and no one is ever complaining about it, somehow there are people who are able to find him charming Women can be grumpy. Wolverine is grumpy, batman is grumpy, Bucky Barnes is grumpy. People are always saying "why do all marvel characters have the same goofy sense of humor nowadays?" and then they're presented with a woman who's more serious and people get mad??
@@manuba_ the only time I've seen people complain about the goofy humour was in thor love and thunder,other than that I've not seen anyone complain about it Nvm,I don't even want to argue with you,I don't think you are the kind of person to listen to others anyway
@@manuba_ More like Mary Sue, Tony Stark actually had to struggle, and all of his unlikable traits are treated as unlikable traits. Captain Marvel's flawed parts aren't treated as flawed; Framing is super important in perception and storytelling. I shouldn't like a piece of shit like Walter White more than Captain Marvel, a literal superhero.
Dude, Hugh Jackman is going to continue in the NCU until secret wars, and afterwards we’re going to be rebooting starting entire MCU all over again for a new generation audience so they can start all over and basically have the avengers the X-Men and the fantastic four in the same universe
Maybe a hot take but, if the MCU decide to introduce a new version of Wolverine, I think he should only appear in the X-men sequel, not the first film. This would not allow the MCU X-men team to stand on their own, showing they don't need to be dependent on Logan in order to be a sucess (unlike the Fox films) and would help to portray Logan as this brooding loner. So, when he finally meet the team, there would be a huge contrast since Logan is used to do things on his own meanwhile the X-men were trained together by Xavier and know how to work as team.
YES my thoughts exactly, they need to hold out on him. Maybe tease him in the post credit scene if the first movie but let the team dynamic work without him first
@@WholeShebangYT Exactly. The first x-men film should be a coming of age story, showing the X-men (probably the first class) growing from this inexperient students to heroes, embrancing their role of fighting for a better world for humans and mutants.
The second film should be about them (in particular Scott) learning to adapt to new members like Logan (and maybe the Giant Size team), who aren't teenagers nor are used to work as part of their team.
And the third film should have the X-men and their enemies (probably Magneto and the Brotherhood) teaming up to fight against a big common threat.
That way their trilogy would show the growth of the X-men as team and their dynamics, while also establishing a main theme for their films, about understanding each other and working together (which is the X-men message against prejuice and intolerance).
Definitely not a hot take I’ve seen that idea thrown around and I agree with it, Xmen need a break from Wolverine in the first film cause general audiences have been exposed to him enough and hell over shadow everyone else in their eyes, other than that I think the main characters who need to be on mcu Xmen (discounting Xavier cause we know he’s on the team since he founded it lol) are Cyclops, Jean and Storm those 3 are most iconic in that team that also fox didn’t do justice for, now idk how many you’d put in a team for Xmen cause the number and roster changes a lot but let’s say Six, there’s heaps of characters to chose if it was my choir I’d add, Rogue, Gambit and Nightcrawler (I’m sick of my boy Kurt not being in main Xmen but just supporting character😭)good even mix of girls and boys so it’s not a complete sausage fest lol
I completely agree and I think wolverine should have his own trilogy going at the same time. He’s too much of an interesting character to just be a side character of the X-Men but he shouldn’t be the main focus of those movies, so having him be a slightly lesser character in the X-Men movies is alright if he’s got his own movies to tell stories
@@alexandrefrauches132 I feel like the mcu should start with the original 5, than introduce the uncanny x-men in the sequel. Imo the O5 rarely get represented well.
Another thing that makes Wolverine being short make sense is that the real-life animal he is named after is also short. The wolverine is a relatively small and stocky weasel that is known for being vicious and can take on prey that's many times its size. There's even this story about a wolverine latching onto a polar bear's throat with its jaws and suffocating it to death.
That's the kind of vibe and aura I'd like to see from Wolverine in future Marvel movies: a short hairy man with a short temper who can take on and lay the paws on opponents far bigger than himself all because of his rage and ferocity. Heck, we even see a glimpse of that in the comics with Wolverine giving no fucks about taking on 9-foot-tall powerhouses like the Hulk. The sooner we see something like that in theaters, the better.
"Short, hairy, grumpy face man"
That sounds like my uncle
Not necessary.
I am a 5,3 dude, I'm short.
And I don't care, I don't need to be represented based on my physique, I just want to have a good time.
I just want a good actor, a suitable actor who understands Wolverine DEEPER than superficial shit like his height or any other physical traits.
His personality, his story, his conflicts, that's what matters, I don't care if he's 6ft, 7ft, 10ft tall.
Representation is much more meaningful if you can emotionally connect with the characters rather than just connect with them through physical traits alone.
@gtoyadhatagyab8013 I understand not feeling it to be an absolute must, but it wouldn't hurt. It's not just a superficial trait, his height is in his very name. A small, stocky critter crazy enough to take on a moose solo. Yes, the acting is most important but a Wolverine that's at least 5'5" wouldn't hurt. It's not about representation, it's about embracing the insanity of the comics
its not about short people respresentation..we dont care if you feel represented. but theres nothing wrong with us wanting to see a short wolverine just to see an accurate version
ppl love the original character. hugh plays him well but it changes the original character. cant beat the originals
@@formerjzmyou did see an accurate version and it looked ridiculous. The shortest he could be is like 5'7, James McAvoy would've worked if he wasn't already Xavier in the past.
@@TheWuCepticon1981 no we didnt see an accurate version...we saw a 4'11 version and that looked ridiculous...the guy wasnt even actually 5'3 but i agree that he can atleast be 5'5-5'8
Another thing the MCU needs to handle in Wolverine is his dynamic with the other X-men. Outside from Rogue and Xavier, the Fox films got Logan dynamic with the rest of the team either wrong or barely explore. The greatest exemple is the Scott/Jean/Logan love triangle. The films portrayed Scott like he's obstacle between Logan and Jean, trying to make the public want Logan to steal Jean from Scott. In the comics is much more complex: Jean, despite feeling empathy for Logan, is loyal to Scott. Logan, despite feelings for Jean, respect her choices and while he and Scott may have arguments, they both see the good in each other and share mutual respect. There's some versions (exemple: X-men 97) that show that Logan doesn't try to have a relationship with Jean bc he doesn't think he's good enough for her, representing how Logan doesn't see himself as this great hero others see him as.
This is why he works so well with the X-men, because they are all outcasts who, by using their powers to help humanity, they find their own potential to be heroes.
I hated how the fox movies handled that love triangle so they REALLY need to nail that
@@WholeShebangYT Not only that, but also Logan relationship with the other X-men. The biggest one for me being his dynamic with Nightcrawler (one my top 3 favorite super heroes btw).
In the films the two only share a brief line but, in the comics they are one close friends, with Kurt's fun loving optimistic personality acting a complement to Logan's agressive and pessimistic attitude.
They've already explored that love triangle enough; it should be kept to small doses.
I always thought so too. His powerful but squat structure makes him more animal like, in particular a wolverine or badger
EXACTLY. Stop forcing this "love triangle" nonsense that was NEVER a thing. Jean loves Cyclops, not Wolverine. Don't even get me started on the comics making up some polyamorous bs to try and "justify" this. They bring that to the movies, I will make sure to boycott ALL X-Men movies for good measure.
I don't get how someone can say wolverine being short "doesn't work on film" as if only people six foot or taller can act or look good on camera.
RIGHT it’s such an insane take
Hollywood and the beauty industry, my man. Both have ruined people's perception of reality.
They're so afraid of Wolverine being cast with a short actor, its hilarious haha. They want Wolverine to be tall/handsome so they can live vicariously through him on the big screen or something, lmao. These people must have forgotten that Tom Holland is literally 5'6 and playing Spider-Man. Jackie Earle Haley is literally 5'5 and played Rorschach, who was everyone's favorite character in the Watchmen movie. This excuse that short people "won't work on screen" is just them scrambling for anything they can come up with.
@@maxmcqueen1196 It's funny, because height doesn't always corelate with beauty lol.
@@Josh-si6dsyeah with how many people who want to bang Hugh, ugh
His Napoleon complex is a huge part of his character. Sabertooth calling him runt while towering over him is what I want. And if they get a younger character they need apply aging makeup so over the years they can peal it back a little to make him look the same age the whole time. Honestly Rip from Yellowstone is exactly how Wolverine should act and talk.
YES that’s the wording I was looking for, he 100% has a napoleon complex
@@VengefulJarl Right, I always thought so. And always enjoyed Juggernaut calling him "Tiny". Do The Juggernaut justice and give us a sawed off self conscious Logan who us often at odds w everyone, including many close allies. Not simply calling Scott a dick but being (for instance) physically separated from Hank, or Scott before they do each other real harm by Emma Frost who we have yet to see in all her conflicted bitchy powerful AF glory.
@@ToolbeltbunnygirlAgreed, I think we could have a greater storyline with Emma and Scott personally, as he developed better as a character with her in the comics as well, really stepped up into a real leadership role.
Doesnt have to be 5'3 but only has to be shorter than cyclops.
Exactly. They could pick someone with 5ft5 or 5ft7 (max)
Personally I could see Radcliffe or Josh Hutcherson as Wolverine. Ignoring that he was already in Thor Ragnarok (no one will care), people say they want Karl Urban, but I’d want him for the slightly taller, slightly more animalistic Sabertooth. Let him tower over Wolverine and call him “runt”. Now THAT would be perfect!
Edit: If they really are rebooting the entire MCU as rumored, let’s have Wolverine and Captain America talk about both having lived through WWII. Give us Wolverine’s (perhaps misguided) loyalty to and trust in Nick Fury. Wolverine has so much to explore in a larger Marvel universe outside of his connection to the X-Men, but it really only works if he has been around for longer.
@@melancholyentertainment I mean, a slightly younger Logan wouldn't be too bad (early to late 30s at least). At least someone who could carry the franchise for the next 10 years further.
Personally, I'm more of the opinion that Daniel Radcliffe would be a better Wolverine than Josh Hutcherson. Both are short actors, sure, but Daniel looks like he could pull off the gruff hairy man visage more convincingly, while Josh is a tad too good-looking.
Cant believe I’m finally seeing other people say Josh Hutcherson, he’s probably my second pick after Radcliffe, no one can convince me that any actor is a better choice than Radcliffe, but Hutcherson is a pretty good choice
I do have to say though, whatever actor we get is gonna have to bulk up in muscle at least a little bit
I also think Christian Navarro wouldn’t be that bad of a choice either, and he’s just about the only actor that’s actually 5’3 and young enough for the role, but imo he’s got too much of a pretty boy look
For me, he should be no taller than 5'8. He doesnt have to be comically short but at least shorter than half the mcu roster. I also think he needs to wear the brown suit. Hugh wears the iconic yellow and blue now. This version should wear the brown and orange one to further separate him from hugh and the audience completely sees this is a different wolverine
Nah no taller than 5 6”
Nah at least 6ft
Bro it’s rlly not that deep holy fuck
@@criminalminded6480 I agree...no taller than 5ft6 would be better.
yall are annoying as fuck. height doesn't matter if the actor does justice to the character
I'd like to see Taron Egerton as Logan in the MCU, but definitely also Dafne as Laura
Taron strikes me as potentially being another Tom Holland in that he's far to young, and babyface visually, to be playing the character he's meant to be playing, instead playing a bastardized version of the character if he got the part.
No 💀
With that babyface? Maybe 20 years from now. Also, leave Dafne out of it. She deserves better.
@@NhBleker so....hugh had a much younger face back in 2000...but he was able to last long enough to grow into it..
In a dream world we would get atleast 2 Wolverine origin movies and a alpha flight movie with him before he appears in the X-men
You’re speaking my language now I need that BAD
An Alpha Flight TV series would be a great alternative to another Wolverine origin movie. It's something Disney+ could consider developing.
@@markanderson7236 I believe that all Disney + shows moving forward need to be grounded and more lower budget. Shows like daredevil, a new punisher show, nighthawk, white tiger, night thrasher. Some of these characters are unknown but I think that’s a good thing.
God, please no. Maybe just ONE Alpha Flight movie and that's it. I'm sick of Wolverine being the center of the X-Men universe.
@@lex_rodriguez I never said there would be more than one alpha flight movie
I think when it comes to short Wolverine people forget they got a 5ft5 actor to play a comic book accurate Rorschach on the Watchmen movie, which is way darker than anything the MCU has ever done and it still worked. People love that Rorschach.
Exactly; so many people keep saying "short Wolverine won't work" are just purposely saying that because their personally biased for wanting a tall/handsome Wolverine instead, which is ridiculous. Like you said, Rorschach was literally 5'5 in the Watchmen movie and was everyone's favorite character. Tom Holland is literally 5'6 and playing MCU Spider-Man with a 2 billion dollar hit movie under his belt. People have no idea what they're talking about.
@@Josh-si6ds it won’t work
@@toren2099 lmao why won't it work -- let me guess, you're insecure and want to live vicariously through tall/dark/handsome Wolverine?
@@Josh-si6ds dude u just sound stupid with all of that crap we saw a 5 3 Wolverine and it looked horrible I wanted a short Wolverine until I saw that I’ll take a 5 7 but 5 3 hell no and tbh if anyone insecure it sounds like it’s you I’m 5’10 I’m fine with my height if anyone mad that they haven’t had someone to represent them it you little short king.
@@toren2099 Yes it will, he just gave you two examples on how it did work before 😂
Personally, I don't care all too much about height for the next hypothetical Wolverine actor. That said, if any of the casting agencies do happen to find a short actor who fits the role, definitely go for it. It only makes sense.
I think the people who are strongly opposed to a hypothetical short Wolverine only know Jackman's portrayal and are unfamiliar with the source material.
Hollywood glazers are also partially to blame. The thought of a short, ugly superhero being dominant over others makes them uncomfortable. You can thank the beauty industry for this mentality.
5:03 YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, the John Byrne suit is definitely my favourite
Get Jared Keeso or Milo Gibson to play the MCU Wolverine
I prefer Hugh Jackman Wolverine over the comic Wolverine.... There i said it.
Idgaf it it's not comic accurate. That version of Wolverine is my go-to. From his animilistic fighting style and yelling to his physique and height. I even liked origins. This version of Wolverine is such a badass.
@@malacoda9421 I agree. I like his arc from being a reluctant hero to the heart of the X-Men to Laura's father.
Yesss. I agree.
Dude, the MCU is going to reboot after secret wars so basically yes Hugh Jackman has to be in the MCU before it gets rebooted. We already confirmed that Hugh Jackman’s going to continue as wolverine in the MCU.
It’s clear that Hugh Jackman is going to continue being Wolverine especially after that movie making over $1 billion Kevin Feige and Disney basically have told him that he can be the character until he decides to retire which honestly is the right thing to do the guy been the character for 24 years. He deserves to be the one to side when he hangs up Wolverine claws.
Ryan Reynolds practically has his blank check after DP & W
@@TheSSUltimateGoku well they already decided that Hugh Jackman is gonna continue as wolverine for the rest of the MCU until after secret wars. Besides, he already retired once as Wolverine for seven years, he’s not hanging up the claws after Deadpool and Wolverine besides they’re gonna reboot after secret wars and start over
One thing I NEED the mcu to do is take inspiration from x men evolution (great show by the way) is to omit the love triangle between Scott, Jean, and Wolverine. Even if mcu Logan still has feelings for Jean, I’d much rather him put those feelings aside so she and Scott can have a healthy relationship (kinda like x men 97 as well)
Honestly, we already have XM97 doing it, I’d be happy to just move past it
Honestly storm is right there bro I always hated the love triangle or atleast for him to be so pressed to be with Jean
@@aidanshowers8366 knowing Disney none of this straight relationships are going to happen bc of Disney I wouldn’t be surprised if half the X-men are gay or lesbian
He was so good as wolverine he had cameos in movies he had no purpose being in, and his own trilogy
The next person to play Wolverine could be 5’3, that still doesn’t mean he’d potray him better than Hugh Jackman. And I thought Cavill playing him in that one scene was pretty funny but I honestly don’t see him being a long-term Wolverine.
Exactly, people are wanting to base everything on his height.... Does not mean that he will be a good actor. He might have the height but it doesn't mean he can do it.
Hear me out. I think Zac Effron would be a good pick. he’s the right height and build and can grow facial hair. He also doesn’t have a soft little voice like Daniel Radcliffe.
He also doesn’t look like a pretty boy anymore
I think it should be short for the sake of the actual animal its based on. Aka a wolverine. Its small , ferocious and very resilient.
Yeah, I think the MCU Wolverine should be anywhere from 5’3” to 5’8”. I will admit 5’8” is a decent bit taller than comic book Wolverine but it’s closer in terms of accuracy than say 6’2”.
@@eldragon57 yeah agreed the small dude they used in DP and wolverine was confirmed to be 4'11. 5'3 would work imp because its not that bad.
Josh Hutcherson could pull it off I think.
I hope they don’t ever go with this idea at all. Sorry that shit is gonna look corny in live action. He doesn’t need to be almost 5 feet tall for y’all to enjoy the damn film. Everything doesn’t need to be comic accurate. Just let him be 5”8 and stop the meaningless complaints. He doesn’t have to be 6 feet but he damn sure doesn’t really need to be 5”3 either. It doesn’t do anything for the character forreal, he’d still be an angry loner either way.
I dunno one of the best things to come from Hughs impact on the character is that Wolverine has been rocking hot (though more unconventionally in drawn mediums) since the 2000's
dunno if you watched '97 but Wolverine kinda got it going on i always figured it makes sense he has a nice face because of all that play he gets
also that weird coloration of his eyes is a small detail that i really like
@@SilverTheMoon that’s the main part I don’t care for💀 it’s way cooler when a short hairy unconventionally attractive meanie gets the biddies
I think saying Hugh “needs to go” is careless. He is THE superhero actor 26 years, 10 movies, damaging his body with PED’s at almost 60 years of age. Reeves, Snipes, Downey jr, no one has anything on his workload. He can stay as long as he wants. Because he’s earned it, no matter what that means. Even if it means it’s till he’s 90
The MCU should do what was done in animation
After the incredibly faithful/successful and iconic X-Men the Animated series in the 90s where Wolverine was the star of the show the next animated show had Logan take a backseat so other characters could be highlighted
This is what the next set of X-Men movies should do and like X-Men Evolution the MCU Wolverine should be a mentor character not the lead
The most important aspect is the quality of the acting. If he's short even better, but it's not the most important thing. I agree on the brown uniform!
The brown and yellow suit looks cool especially the sleeves
All the people that say height doesn't matter, would they have a problem with Thor being played by 5'5 Daniel Radcliffe?
I think wanting to keep x-23 is understandable. Where is Hugh Jackman's wolverine has been around for a while and should have gotten his final send-off already, x-23 still new and has a lot to offer. As well as of course the actress as x-23
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Don't know why I'd rather go with someone like Hugh Jackman or Henry Cavill for Wolverine kinda like I'm used to it them being Wolverine tho. Even their feral personalities are not poor and they do a good job with it. Not because of any personal issues for any short kings out there.
Hugh Jackman is the greatest superhero movie actor of all time. His run is undefeated. They practically replaced every MCu character around him except him. He is bigger than the X-men. Hell his whole career hinges on it. A fantastic actor who you will struggle to name 3 other things he has been in, you have watched and now remember outside anything to do with Wolverine.
6:23 is such a bad take, his origin is not uninteresting at all, don't think they should re tell his origns and the X-Men origins film was bad but saying his origins are the most uninteresting about him is diabolical 😂But agreed it is unnecessary too retell
We should just get a Disney Plus Wolverine Anthology show where we get stand alone episodes across Wolverine’s whole life
Almost like 30 Minute to hour long version of the Wolverine Variants scenes in Deadpool and Wolverine
The first episode could be based on the 2000s Origin comic but more faithful then X-Men Origins the movie
And each episode could end with Wolverine experiencing some trauma leading to his mind healing and removing his memories
We could see episodes in various wars specifically WW2,
We could see a Weapon X episode where he’s experimented on so we don’t know whether that’s the reason for his memory loss or whether it just is his mind healing the trauma
We could see a Wolverine VS Hulk episode where they eventually team up to fight the Wendigo maybe Wolverine has been sent by Alpha Flight and Department H to deal with the Hulk or even SHIELD
And we could see alternate future Wolverines like a more faithful Old Man Logan episode with more Marvel characters in it
Just anything before after his time with the X-Men so long as the X-Men aren’t featured and it’s an anthology show where nothing really has to connect but the show in full can say something about the character and each episode says something individually
I agree with everything you said except for a short Wolverine. No! Just give us the best man for the job.
i agree he need to be a small hyper aggro hairy unstoppable freak of nature. no tallwashing
That actor who played the gypsy leader in the Gentleman...he gave off HEAVY wolverine vibes. And he was a short, stocky and rugged looking guy
The actors I’d probably be okay with are
- Jared Keeso (he’s actually Canadian)
- Milo Gibson (probably would make the most accurate looking Wolverine)
- Zac Efron (he’s not a pretty boy anymore and he’s build)
- Daniel Radcliffe (he’s ripped, can play feral and is almost the right height)
- Scott Eastwood
- and MAYBE Henry Cavill BUT if he was made to look a little shorter or they got Jacob Elordi or Wolfgang Novogratz to play Cyclops to make him look shorter
the point I agree with most is the one about the brown suit. MAAAAN that's like his best suit next to the force suit.
DO NOT MAKE HIM SHORT! RIDICULOUS! IT DOESN'T WORK WELL, IN THE MOVIES! I'VE BEEN AN X-MEN FAN SINCE THE LATE 80'S! ALSO GET RID OF THAT YELLOW UNIFORM! THE BROWN ONE, WAS ALWAYS THE BEST ONE! IN THE COMICS!
It'd be so easy to incorporate his yellow and brown suit in a practical sense, too. Just make it so the cage match fights he's in all have outlandish and unique suits, and that's just the way the joint is run. Boom, easy explanation.
"until you're 90"
@@JuanEnriqueBernalLeal he's going to be working but more so I believe it will be as a director and/or as a producer.
I also usually think Logan's brown and yellow suit is usually better than his blue and yellow suit. I gained more love for the latter, and I still love both suits.
I’m 5’4.5” and making him 5’3” seems too silly. 5’6” to 5’8” would work just fine. Nobody takes Short Kings seriously. I just hope the X-Men and Wolverine get a great story and done right.
The best person would have been Jon Bernthal but he’s obviously is the Punisher
I feel like Jon could have played the more lead character from X-Men TAS or taken a secondary/mentor role like X-Men Evolution
Comic accurate Wolverine height would be great, but he definitly wouldn't be a lead character. He'd be Hawkeye/Black Widow/ Vision level character
@@venom999333 not if it is handled right.
@@vengeanceconscious9774I just don’t see them prioritizing height as a casting decision for Wolverine considering the mass majority of people don’t even know that Wolverine is supposed to be short to begin with.
??????
With a character like Logan, how can you NOT make him the lead?
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario
Cause he was never made to be a lead to begin with. The movies are what made him a lead.
Things I want:
Wolverine needs to be short like in the comics, but he can't be too lean. He must be very bulky. He should have the same physique as the Hulk, only shorter in height and much hairier.
While I liked his costume in Deadpool & Wolverine, I prefer the version of the costume with trunks. Superhero movies these days tend to avoid trunks. Even Superman, perhaps the most recognisable superhero design with trunks, lost his during the awful Snyderverse. Thankfully, the new DCU Superman has his trunks, so that gives me hope the DCU Batman will probably have his trunks too. If all goes well, I'd like the MCU Wolverine to have his trunks as well.
I want his history with Alpha Flight to be canon to the MCU. We don't need an origin film, but they should at least mention he was a part of the team before joining the X-Men. I'd also like it if they at least mention he fought the Hulk while working with Alpha Flight.
On the topic of teams, he should be a member of both the X-Men and the Avengers.
He has to be a father figure to Kitty Pryde, Jubilee, Rogue, X-23, and Black Widow (assuming they bring her back to life somehow).
Wolverine needs to have history with Sabretooth. Sabretooth always tortures Logan every year on his birthday, so I want that to be shown here.
His friendship to Nightcrawler and Colossus needs to be shown. We absolutely NEED the Fastball Special, especially if we're getting Wolverine and Colossus in their comic accurate heights.
He needs to wear the cowl most of the time. It should only really be removed when he's out of the costume, which should be rare.
He needs to call everyone bub.
He needs to have his cigar and needs to drink often.
Lastly, I hope they don't shy away from making him a tiny bit pathetic at times. He's a simp for Jean.
Hey do you wanna just run this channel now bc my god you’re cooking better than I ever could, this is Wolverine right here I need it ALL
What about Taron Egerton hes like 5’9 and looks like Logan
He’s a great choice!
He looks like Deacon, son of Wolverine.
It would be funny if Cavil played Wolverine fully after making a cameo in DP&W. But of course that’s not gonna happen.
I really agree with making him more of a side character
You people need to get a life. Where is your appreciation for what Hugh Jackman has done with the character?? He gave the first Oscar worthy performance as a superhero in Logan
just because we are interested in seeing what a short wolverine would look like doesnt mean we dont appreciate hugh jackman....tf are you talking about.
I don't really mind who plays Logan as long as they get the character right and aren't especially tall. Wolverine's height is a pretty substantial part of his identity, he's supposed to be this short, nasty dude who hits way harder than someone his size should. Much like an actual wolverine. He doesn't have to be 5'3, I would be fine if he was just visibly shorter than the other X-Men.
I know right can you imagine the interaction between toran egerton's wolverine and Tom Holland's spidey
They shouldn’t be equals. That’s what that would portray. Logan should be bigger and stronger and older than Spider-Man. CLEARLY not just technically
Everyone keeps saying stupid shit like “but there’s no actors accurate to wolverine’s height” as if cbm’s don’t have a history of picking up no names, Hugh jackman himself has gone on to state he was a “nobody” before landing the role. Hell they shown they can still pick fresh faces recently with the miss marvel casting, not only was iman vellani the perfect age and ethnicity she wasn’t even an actor(but clearly talented) and was already a hugh comic fan and fan of the character. The new actor for Wolverine doesn’t need to be someone who is famous and is barely below average height, get someone accurate who can act they have the money and resources(there DISNEY) it wouldn’t be hard
X 23 doesn't make any sense when mutants are introduced shes a xmen evolution continuity character and a clone wtf would you introduce a clone before the offical leave that all new all different shit alone
Agree with you on all the things! Short hairy king. Berserker/animalistic side. Mysterious/slowly reveal origin with clues. Not the protagonist: ensemble team member who slowly softens through relationships with other team members: Storm, Jean, Kitty... Hugh Jackman is great and I'll always love his Wolverine but I think the public is ready for a more comics accurate portrayal.
I’m also a fan of the Radcliffe fan cast. I don’t know if I’d want Wolverine to show up immediately because I’d like to see some X-Men that haven’t been as prominent in the movies to show up first. He definitely should show up eventually, though.
hugh jackman has made a connection with all the fans . The way he plays Wolverine can never be replaced by any actor out there .Cuz we are connected to the xmen that we cant even imagine another actor playing wolverine. So please hope that Hugh Jackman will play wolverine in the future.
wolverine (logan) (Hugh Jackman) retire from the title but still serve as a mentor for X-23 as the new wolverine
Idk why but i want to see wolvarine suit made out leather so badly
I think the actual actor that did the body of "Short King" Wolverine would do a wonderful physical representation, I haven't seen his acting chops, but he definitely has the look.
I personally like the idea of X-23 with the X-Men, and Logan being gone, maybe the coated in adamantium run, and save his return for an after credits as Patch for an X-23/Kitty team up where they both are tracking him down between first and second X-Men films, getting to discuss their experiences with Logan, Kitty having more of course, Laura maybe not having as many, if not her being Dafne's OG character universe displaced after Secret Wars, and bring him home in time for Marvel's X-2.
It offer's some great comic tie ins, allowing his complicated character his own film to show his past with existing characters, and we can keep the focus of Marvel's X-1 on Cyclops and the rest of the team, while still building on them and Wolverine's history in his own film with a few flashbacks for setting the tone of how they each personally deal with his grizzeled demeanor, and their personal relationships.
As far as what Marvel will do, it will probably be another Dark Phoenix Saga, as they can't seem to get away from it.
Although I much prefer Scott's character development after Jean, when he's with Emma, and wouldn't mind seeing that on screen instead, let's change it up I've seen the Phoenix Saga soooo many times since I was 6 years old, comics, original 97 run, and both movie runs just as popular versions of the media.💯
Taron Egerton 5,9
Jeremy Allen 5'7
Luke Hemsworth 5'7
Zac Efron 5'8
Josh Hutcherson 5'5
Josh is a name I haven’t heard yet but now I kinda love it
@@WholeShebangYT the actors I’d probably be okay with are
- Jared Keeso (he’s actually Canadian)
- Milo Gibson (probably would make the most accurate looking Wolverine)
- Zac Efron (he’s not a pretty boy anymore)
- Daniel Radcliffe (he’s absolutely ripped, can play feral and is almost the right height)
- Scott Eastwood
- and MAYBE Henry Cavill BUT if he was made to look a little shorter or they got Jacob Elordi or Wolfgang Novogratz to play Cyclops to make him look shorter
Daniel Radcliffe should be Wolverine
@@MrGrimlocke Taron Egerton would fit better
Mark Walberg should play Wolverine, he has the right build and height plus he's a good actor, they would have to make his body a little hairy of course.
Hairy Potter
No
@@lewieanderson6579 Well who then?
I would really love to see dafene keen Laura x23 return in another movie because that would be really awesome and badass.
I think you’re speaking way too soon when literally Hugh Jackman’s gonna be in part of more MCU projects as wolverine in the future, especially in secret wars, and doomsday you’re literally thinking that we are gonna going to have an MCU wolverine probably until until the MCU ends for the next MCU 2 where they start all over in this time and since now Disney has the rights for the X-Men in fantastic four they can make up movies here and there set up the entire genre, but but they’re not gonna replace Hugh Jackman not yet when literally he’s gonna be in doomsday and secret wars
i agree with mostly everything aside from logan being a supportive character the reason why live action wolverine worked so well is for that simple fact he was always there hving a wolverine in the mcu just be a background character just doeasnt seem like it would be sucessful maybe a few people would enjoy it but not enough to show mcu that they want another wolvwerine movie or more of him in the mcu
Honestly a 5'3 wolverine would look silly. And ive been a wolverine fan for 35 years. He was my favourite as a kid still is today
5’3 and 200 plus pounds of muscle with a gruff voice that can act…I don’t know where people think they are going to find an actor that looks like that. People are throwing out Daniel Radcliffe and he just doesn’t look the part and he’s taller than 5’3. Too boyish looking. Even in his 30s, he looks childlike. 5’8 or 5’9 is the average height and far more probable in finding a match.
Wolverine is quite silly in general, bro is a short hairy immortal canadian that smells bad and has a napoleon complex with a goofy hairstyle and I think thats a part of his character that makes him likeable
@@ecxks7109we like him because he’s a fucking badass. We don’t need goofy dimensions
@@ecxks71095’3 is too goofy
@@redstone5062 They can make him a little taller than 5'3. Say 5ft5 or 5ft7...
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Emile Hirsch would be an option
▪︎ He's only 5ft7 and he's a great actor (see ''Lone Survivor'')
▪︎ he's young enough (38 years old), so he can do a bunch of movies in the MCU
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Gael García Bernal (5ft7) would be another interesting choice. Good actor.
He doesn't have to be very short, I just want him to be taller than Jean but a little bit shorter than Gambit.
nah they should reboot the universe after secret wars and introduce the new logan in a wolverine vs hulk movie
MILO GIBSON AS WOLVERINE
Am I the only one who dosent want to see him short ? I get it’s comic accurate but I think it’s just like goofy on the big screen
Bro no offense but Wolverine is too popular to be a side line character… and this is all about money.. X men literally tried to 3 films to not include Wolverine and they literally all flopped. It’s clear as day that even Wolverine is the soul and heart of the x men films
Shahar Issac is my number one pick. His most notable role is the disciple Peter in The Chosen and has that short and angry look to him and perfectly captures logan on the show
After looking him up I can def see it working!
I think 5'3" is just too short ...they should aim for 5'7"-5'9"
they should make him 4'11
Why? There are lots of short male actors that are great at their roles
@@anotherway6427bc its lowkey goofy. I was like that in early years of high school bro wolverine shouldnt be the height of a highschooler who hasnt hit puberty
@@gr3saeyend So you’re dogging on people for something they can’t control, yet for decades have performed just as well in cinema/theater as their taller colleagues, because it seems goofy to you… PERFECTLY RATIONAL and not at all dickish:). If you have a personal preference for a taller wolverine actor that is fine, but to indicate that smaller guys can’t play impressive or thrilling action packed roles due to them being smaller is simply wrong and sad.
@@anotherway6427 yea it is pretty goofy mate I’m not saying he cant be 5’8 or around there I’m saying 5’3 is way too small and literally the size of a middle schooler like idk how im supposed to take that srsly when hes being idle 😭
honestly i think bill skarzgard could be a crazy wolverine. think of his presance in it just a seemingly mindless killing machine who is far more intelligent than he seems.
hugh is already comic accurate
blud is so blinded by fanatism
Logan fights similar to Thorfin from Vinland Saga. Both of them are small and therefor, utilizes their agility and speed when it comes to battles. This is also why is think its very important to get a small actor for Logan because imagine they made a Vinland saga movie and Thorfin is like 7 foot tall. People would be pissed off and rightly so, its the same thing for Logan.
The stunt double for the short wolverine in DP3 actually really looks the part. Look him up if you can
There is a lot of nitpicking and hair splitting this video.
We need hugh as old man logan, and whoever the MCU picks (hopefully caville) for their own, native version of wolverine.
Emile Hirsch
▪︎ He's only 5ft7 and he's a great actor (see ''Lone Survivor'')
▪︎ he's young enough (38 years old), so he can do a bunch of movies in the MCU
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Gael García Bernal (5ft7) would be another interesting choice
Taron Egerton and Milo Gibson are good choices too
Teron Egerton or Milo Gibson hands down
Sorry, but honestly, does Wolverine even need to be short? If you want short Wolverine, watch the animated show or read the comics. I'd rather get the Calvilerine than anyone else
"Does Colossus need to be 7 feet?!" It kinda sounds similar, doesn't it?
/s
Don't ever let bro cook again
The truth is his height doesn't matter because it's not the foundation of his character. You can make him work at any height, tall or short.
@@nnnmmmable except you're wrong.A short but dangerous savage is part of his character
@criticwhosalwaysright1404 Except you're wrong because if you were right, then Hugh Jackman's Wolverine would have never been a hit, but he was. Wolverine's height is not the foundation of his character.
@@nnnmmmable hugh jackman wolverine was a hit because majority of movie watcher don't know shit about his character
@@nnnmmmable He was only a hit cause of the casual audience like you who don't even know anything about the comics lmao
@thex8118 🤣 LMAO. What do you think the MCU movies are primarily for? Comic book enthusiasts?
The MCU should bring in Cyber and Omega Red!
Controversial thought, I'd be happy enough if X-23 was wolverine in the mcu
It makes the most sense if it’s not Jackman
That shouldn’t happen until years from now
@@ZekeorSomething why? Because she’s a woman?
Something that would be cool if Sectet Wars ends up being a harder reboot and brings back Steve Rogers (either bringing back Chris Evans or giving us a new Steve for the rebooted universe, it would not surprise me if they use the reboot to bring back characters the MCU killed off and age down both them and other characters whose actors are getting too old for action films (and get actors who are cheaper)) is if they gave us something set in WW2 with the Howlies and there's a guy they call 'Jim' who always seems to avoid getting shot even in the densest firefights, but he's just one of the ensemble and not the focus, and then at the end we see Steve in the present cross paths with 'Jim' who somehow doesn't recognise him, and _that's_ how we first meet Wolverine in the MCU. He shouldn't even pop the claws in WW2 and perhaps he doesn't have the iconic hair and instead has the standard military buzzcut so it's not until Steve encounters him in the present that we see him with the hair and he pops the claws, so those of us who know what to look for would realise it, but for everyone else, that meeting would likely end up on the level of Nick Fury's appearence at the end of Iron Man 1.
It would be interesting if they find someone 4 feet tall or whatever Wolverine’s height is to play a comic accurate version of Wolverine.
Zach Efron. 5’8” and already jacked. Could play Wolverine for another 30 years!
Not with a botched face like that
Hold on.. you might be on to something
I laughed at this comment . Then googled it. He looks badass
I genuinely think that Daniel Radcliffe will BREAK EVERYTHING WITH HIS ACTING if he gets to play the Wolverine. But IG the mantle will most probably go to Henry Cavill now that they've already introduced his cameo in DP&W. Then again, I don't mind that as well (other than the height part), 'cause Cavill is a LEGEND & he so deserves a legacy role. But leaving that aside. I really want the MCU X-Men Part 1 to NOT include Wolverine in it at all. Maybe Laura X-23. But not Wolverine. I think Wolverine should become a part of the team from the second film - so that the audience is allowed to see how great an X-MEN film can be w/out Wolverine & then get him back - so that now the X-MEN are full team. Because no matter what anyone says, the X-MEN are never FULL, or say WHOLE w/out Wolverine. He is one of the most important part of the team, alongside Storm, Jean, Cyclops & Professor X. But yeah, nothing's in our hands. All we can do is hope. Let's see ...
The audience already knows we can have a great X-men movie without Wolverine, we have First Class
@@galosniper7010 I consider First Class a great movie, but TBH, it's not really THE X MEN YK. I mean it's more of a story covering the OG conflict & relation b/w Professor & Magneto than X-MEN. It doesn't have Jean or Cyclops or even Ice Man or Angel, I mean they are the CLASSIC team. Nevertheless, if an example has to be given, then I think X-Men Apocalypse is a great example at how to handle an X-Men film without Wolverine (I mean, he did have a cameo but that doesn't count). But even w/ that film, Cyclops really seems like a novice and a side-character. Now, we need an authentic interpretation w/ Cyclops in the forefront, handling the team, spearheading the movie. Marvel will have to establish Cyclops as the main lead in the films b/c that hasn't ever been done so far in the movies.
One of the most underrated depictions of the X-MEN is xmen evolution. I really like how they made wolverine a mentor figure for a young scott summers and jean grey and he was present, but didn’t steal the show away from the main characters. I also really enjoyed how the show played with the xmen and brotherhood teaming up from time to time because of the fact that both sides are working to make mutants an accepted group, one just wants mutants to rule while the other wants mutants to be equal.
I think one of the most difficult things the MCU is going to have to do is properly explore the world of mutants fully including all of the factions and stories. It definitely makes me worried that the MCU is going to sideline a team in order to focus more on mutants since they already did that with the inhumans.
I don't think it matters if a live action Wolverine is short. Bats are small but no one cares about Batman being huge. And he's not even really being drawn as short in comics. Just because his code name is Wolverine doesn't mean he has to be short. Hugh Jackman is proof of that. The actor has to be able to give off that gruff dangerous but has a heart of gold vibe and Hugh Jackman did that perfectly.
Wolverine being short is important because Logan looks a wild animal attacking his enemies.
@@petermj1098 Yeah plus you can’t really have Sabertooth calling him “runt” (which is ICONIC) if Wolverine is 6’2”…
Yeah, because bat’s height ain’t apart of character
My main fear is they’ll turn Laura into captain marvel 2.0, and make her an unlikeable girl boss.
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@@Alf-gm7tf No I don't think that will be the case because Kevin Feige has been friends with Hugh Jackman since X Men 2000 and Logan is one of the most influential movies of all time and for those reasons I believe they will handle Laura/X23 the right way
@@Alf-gm7tf Tony stark is an unlikeable boy boss and no one is ever complaining about it, somehow there are people who are able to find him charming
Women can be grumpy. Wolverine is grumpy, batman is grumpy, Bucky Barnes is grumpy. People are always saying "why do all marvel characters have the same goofy sense of humor nowadays?" and then they're presented with a woman who's more serious and people get mad??
@@manuba_ the only time I've seen people complain about the goofy humour was in thor love and thunder,other than that I've not seen anyone complain about it
Nvm,I don't even want to argue with you,I don't think you are the kind of person to listen to others anyway
@@manuba_ More like Mary Sue, Tony Stark actually had to struggle, and all of his unlikable traits are treated as unlikable traits. Captain Marvel's flawed parts aren't treated as flawed; Framing is super important in perception and storytelling. I shouldn't like a piece of shit like Walter White more than Captain Marvel, a literal superhero.
Dude, Hugh Jackman is going to continue in the NCU until secret wars, and afterwards we’re going to be rebooting starting entire MCU all over again for a new generation audience so they can start all over and basically have the avengers the X-Men and the fantastic four in the same universe
They need to make Wolverine ahort as much as they need to give Deadpool his raspy voice.
I used to want Tom Hardy but he's already Venom. Taron maybe?