You sum it up best at the end. If you are a legit racer go 450, but if u are like 99.9% of us watching these vids the yz250 is gonna put a bigger smile on your face!
Don't even question yourself. By the two-stroke! You can rebuild it in your garage the night before you race. And, you can afford it. Stay away from those four strokers!
As someone who thought 450s were better. I own a 2009 kx450 I’ve loved that bike for awhile. The other day my uncle let me rip his 2022 yz 250 and I have never felt a bike so smooth. I’m now listing my 450 and buying a 250
Thanks Steve: I was checking the weight difference as well which the YZ250 2 Stroke is about 5-6 kg's lighter than the YZ250F. The more I research and watch these awesome sites, the more I am convinced about getting a YZ250 2 Stroke. 99.9% sold on it. 🏆
@@cmimportersandexporterspty3456 hey to further sell you, the weight of both bikes could be equal but the 250f would feel way heavier. You know why? A four stroke is more planted and engine breaking exists. So it will still feel heavier comparing to a 2 stroke. Which has no engine breaking and it's a very loose feel on the bike. If you end up getting the 2 stroke a couple good tips I have is learn proper body position if you haven't and move fluently with the bike. If it gets a little sideways grip with the knees but don't stiffen up. It'll hop around and do it's thing so let it, the second you try and man handle it is when you send yourself into orbit and wake up in a hospital bed 😂
@@patrickmeyer9905 : Thank you for the advise Patrick 👍 I have done some research and it seems like the 2 stroke does rump around but is a nicer bike to ride, so I have decided to go for the 2 stroke because I don't want to race but just have fun with the mates at the age of 51. Have ridden bikes for many years, so will take it easy and just have a gas (fun)
I have a kx450 2022... and a 2016 yz250x.. really would like to try a 2022yz250 with good brakes. My 450 is unbelievable everywhere except the weight category. A 300 kit on a 250 might be crazy fun if they upgraded the brakes.
@@woodysrockspyro6436 i had a ktm 350 sxf that I just sold , it really was fun , faster than a 250 and almost as fast as our crf 450 but feels way lighter
Great video and feedback on the bike. It is such a solid simple reliable bike. I just purchased a 2022 gas gas mc 250 and I absolutely love it. The lack of vibration compared to older 250 2 strokes is noticeable and the thing is super light. To me it sort of feels like a 125 chassis with a 250 motor. The air forks took a sec to break in and get used to, I played with the preasure and clickers a little, but now I've got them feeling pretty good. I almost went the Yamaha route as I've had one in the past and really liked it. But the lighter weight and counter balanced engine won me over. That and I had an old mc 250 way back in 2004 because my cousin was a Gas Gas dealer at the time. So I wanted to try the KTM version lol. Go ride one man I think you'll be pleasantly surprised especially if you get the suspension set up right for you.
Im just under 17 stone and the suspension has been firm enough for me so I'd say your right with the need to go lighter on your spring rates , I changed the grips on mine to ODI lock on and have not noticed any vibes while riding .I had kashima applied to the upper fork tubes purely for looks and when I drained the outer chamber there was only 220 ml of oil in each plus what was left coating the fork internals , but I doubt that would take up the remaining 100ml .I refilled 300ml and it seems good so far .
The raceteams back in the day and the 2022 GYTR kit uses a flywheel weight for more calm power and grip and better suspension action. Try that out right now.
The balancer will take away some snap and may slightly effect max hp but an object once in motion wants to stay in motion so it should help the KTM’s chug better and have less flame out at very minimum rpm. Yamaha has always built the best engines. I’m a master technician for a living and I work on many brands over the last 20 years and nothing as reliable as Yamaha in my opinion.
@@ShelbyPaget I weight 195 and it’s awesome! I adjusted it a bit in because the forks were a bit stiff. I just ride for fun but im a B rider. Not super fast, but not slow either. Bike works perfect for me because I feel like it has such a good range
Bought my YZ250 new in 2005 only tail only trail ridden Now I’m ready for a new. Everyone’s telling me it would be a waist of time to get a 250 4t and just get the 450t
The 2-stroke will put your skills to the test much more than the 4-stroke, so don't discouraged if you're not immediately comfortable and fast on it (2T) . Keep practicing , it takes time.
I would say the 2 stroke will make you a better rider in the long run. Like when I came off a yz125 to a FC250 I was hauling ass, definitely wouldn’t be able to without the 2 stroke
I'm coming off a Husky TC150, and I've considered a 24' YZ450, but I honestly don't think I'm ready for it. I think that the YZ250 is a better fit. A year or two on the YZ250 is probably necessary before I'm ready to step up to a 450.
I'm curious how you rate the "feels like" weight of a modern 250 2-stroke vs. a modern 450 4-stroke. for comparison, I weighed 205-210 in my racing days in the schoolboy, 125, and 250 C and B divisions. I absolutely loved the 125 because I could just flick it around in a way that no 250 would allow. is that similar to the modern 250 vs. 450? I enjoyed the video. voice over worked well, and it's nice to get an amateur rider's perspective!
Yo prefiero el yz 250 2t ya qué lo puedo ocupar tanto para cross y en el enduro andan de una manera increíble solo tienes que tener las ganas para montarlo
Currently having the same internal discussion. I have a yz250 (pre 22) and it need a subframe, maybe an opportunity to update to 22 parts ? Or get myself a 22 CRF250. The yz is so fun and fast but it's a ton of work to ride.
nah, man. 2 strokes aren't hard to ride. we're just living in a world where ppl are accustomed to 4 strokes. the real issue is there's no replacement for displacement. you can learn to ride a 250 2-stroke. when you do, you'll be leaving 250 4-strokes in the dust. guaranteed.
Does anyone have a suggestion for setting the front and rear settings. I have started driving again as a senior, after a 40-year break. Yz 250 2022. finds it very confusing to find a good basic setting, which of course is also due to the age and the long break 😂😂😂 My weight with equipment is about 74 kg
Good vid mate! Im just wondering what bike do you think i should get out of a 2022 kx 250 or a 2022 kx 450 i own a yz 2022 250 2 stroke atm and am a similar rider to you?
You said you went 8 clicks slower/softer but that is 2 opposite things lol witch one is it? Did you go 8 clicks softer or harder? Because slower is stiffer not softer
Gotta have both, I have a 21 husky 450 and a 03 kx250. I take them both to the track on practice days but if I’m at a race or not just play riding only the 450 comes out I can go faster longer, but there isn’t much that beats the feeling of ringing a 250 smoker but about 3-4 hard laps on it I’m beat where my 450 I can carry a fast pace for 15-20 minutes and only be a little tired
@@МаксимЧебан-м6х I have both bikes done by the same suspension but without a doubt the newer chassis and suspension comes into play. It’s mostly the power delivery, the 250 it’s either on or off where as my 450 I can roll on it easy and not have the bike rip me off it I can set my cruise control almost on the 450 and smooth 3rd gear the whole track
@@ShelbyPaget Seems like new isn't a bad option if you live in Idaho (no used market and if you find one they are super expensive. Maybe i'll get one new one day too, though i'm thinking the new Kawasaki SXR 1500 standup jet ski. I also want camper & side by side & bike for the son lol. I would make a much better millionaire haha :\
i just ordered this bike and i should have it in a month. Im 6' 4" 240lbs C rider. should the new spring be enough, or do you think a stiffer one would work. we ride mostly sand here
Add a Mako 360 bar mount to fix the vibrations and numb hands and blisters. I have a 2020 Sherco SE250 Factory the year prior to counter balance. It vibes but not like old Moto bikes. I got the XCGear Mako 360 bar mount system it is amazing. Took me a while to spend the money super glad I did. I no longer have arm pump and hand cramp after hard rides. Then I bought the Spurz pegs since the XCGear bar mount worked so good)
As someone from Europe who is led to believe all Americans are fat, I can't believe how light a lot of these testers are! 150lbs?!?! I weighed that when I was 16. Are there any testers out there to give opinions for real world guys (6ft, 180+lbs)?
I am from the Czech republic. My weight is 70 kg, I am 47 years old 😂 Now I own kx 450 2022, but I want new yz 250 2t. I don’t want batery, starter, startasistent … I don’t need the best on race, I want enjoy the ride, so yz 250 2t 2023 is waiting for me 😁
Unless you ride every weekend, you will gain weight eating american food. You spend a lots of calories if you ride 3 times a week + keep training the rest of the week to get you strong enough and stay away from injuries.
You sum it up best at the end. If you are a legit racer go 450, but if u are like 99.9% of us watching these vids the yz250 is gonna put a bigger smile on your face!
Don't even question yourself. By the two-stroke! You can rebuild it in your garage the night before you race. And, you can afford it. Stay away from those four strokers!
Solid point!! Long live the brapppp
Spot on....2 stroke for life!!!!
Awesome review because I am deciding if I should go with the YZ250 2 Stroke or the YZ250F. Quiet drawn to the old 2 Stroke concept though
As someone who thought 450s were better. I own a 2009 kx450 I’ve loved that bike for awhile. The other day my uncle let me rip his 2022 yz 250 and I have never felt a bike so smooth. I’m now listing my 450 and buying a 250
@martin barr's CRF450 I’ve also rode my buddy’s 2018 yz450 it was slower than my 450 but it was smoother
@martin barr's CRF450 no where near as smooth as that 22 yz250 power band just feels better to me
I am 49 years old, ride a 22 YZ 2 banger, i agree, its a fun bike to ride, nice accurate review Shelby
A 250 two stroke has all the power I will ever be able to use.
and some more lol
Thanks Steve: I was checking the weight difference as well which the YZ250 2 Stroke is about 5-6 kg's lighter than the YZ250F. The more I research and watch these awesome sites, the more I am convinced about getting a YZ250 2 Stroke. 99.9% sold on it. 🏆
@@cmimportersandexporterspty3456 Comparing a 250f to a 250 is night and day. I have a an 06 yz250 and it’s a violent machine. Very reliable too
@@cmimportersandexporterspty3456 hey to further sell you, the weight of both bikes could be equal but the 250f would feel way heavier. You know why? A four stroke is more planted and engine breaking exists. So it will still feel heavier comparing to a 2 stroke. Which has no engine breaking and it's a very loose feel on the bike. If you end up getting the 2 stroke a couple good tips I have is learn proper body position if you haven't and move fluently with the bike. If it gets a little sideways grip with the knees but don't stiffen up. It'll hop around and do it's thing so let it, the second you try and man handle it is when you send yourself into orbit and wake up in a hospital bed 😂
@@patrickmeyer9905 : Thank you for the advise Patrick 👍 I have done some research and it seems like the 2 stroke does rump around but is a nicer bike to ride, so I have decided to go for the 2 stroke because I don't want to race but just have fun with the mates at the age of 51. Have ridden bikes for many years, so will take it easy and just have a gas (fun)
I was the guy that always said that you don't need a 450 . 250 2 strokes and 250fs are plenty fast ,but finally got a yz450 and man that thing rips !
I agree with you and it didn’t hit me until all the top 5 MX riders were winning championships on 450 4t. 2t are fun but my Mx 450 is awesome!!!
I have a kx450 2022... and a 2016 yz250x.. really would like to try a 2022yz250 with good brakes. My 450 is unbelievable everywhere except the weight category. A 300 kit on a 250 might be crazy fun if they upgraded the brakes.
@@woodysrockspyro6436 i had a ktm 350 sxf that I just sold , it really was fun , faster than a 250 and almost as fast as our crf 450 but feels way lighter
@@jimbo4203 I've rode one of those.. seemed like it had a ton of vibration. No idea if they all feel that way.
@@woodysrockspyro6436 the 350 sxf has like zero vibration and revs to the moon , something was definitely wrong with what you rode
Great video and feedback on the bike. It is such a solid simple reliable bike. I just purchased a 2022 gas gas mc 250 and I absolutely love it. The lack of vibration compared to older 250 2 strokes is noticeable and the thing is super light. To me it sort of feels like a 125 chassis with a 250 motor. The air forks took a sec to break in and get used to, I played with the preasure and clickers a little, but now I've got them feeling pretty good. I almost went the Yamaha route as I've had one in the past and really liked it. But the lighter weight and counter balanced engine won me over. That and I had an old mc 250 way back in 2004 because my cousin was a Gas Gas dealer at the time. So I wanted to try the KTM version lol. Go ride one man I think you'll be pleasantly surprised especially if you get the suspension set up right for you.
Im just under 17 stone and the suspension has been firm enough for me so I'd say your right with the need to go lighter on your spring rates , I changed the grips on mine to ODI lock on and have not noticed any vibes while riding .I had kashima applied to the upper fork tubes purely for looks and when I drained the outer chamber there was only 220 ml of oil in each plus what was left coating the fork internals , but I doubt that would take up the remaining 100ml .I refilled 300ml and it seems good so far .
The raceteams back in the day and the 2022 GYTR kit uses a flywheel weight for more calm power and grip and better suspension action. Try that out right now.
The balancer robs power whether ktm admits it or not I ride a 97 cr250 love YZ’s vibration is not that big of deal and definitely not a deal breaker
Can't you just run a lighter flywheel on the Ktm and I think the ktm makes more power than the Yz.
The balancer will take away some snap and may slightly effect max hp but an object once in motion wants to stay in motion so it should help the KTM’s chug better and have less flame out at very minimum rpm.
Yamaha has always built the best engines. I’m a master technician for a living and I work on many brands over the last 20 years and nothing as reliable as Yamaha in my opinion.
@@whiteman3075 Thanks for your insight.
Some triple clamps might help with the vibration aswell
Yeh, I always thought it was just part of riding dirt bikes, still do, I don't even notice it.
Thank you for a solid analysis of the bike!
Just bought a 2022 250 and it’s so much more fun to ride than my 450 sxf
That’s awesome! What’s your suspension feel for your weight and skill?
@@ShelbyPaget I weight 195 and it’s awesome! I adjusted it a bit in because the forks were a bit stiff. I just ride for fun but im a B rider. Not super fast, but not slow either. Bike works perfect for me because I feel like it has such a good range
@@zachflores1505 perfect! Thanks for the info!
Bought my YZ250 new in 2005 only tail only trail ridden Now I’m ready for a new. Everyone’s telling me it would be a waist of time to get a 250 4t and just get the 450t
A 250F is a great bike an plenty! You don't need a 450F at all. Up to you.
@@Davido50 yz250 not 250f
But youre still right though
450s are super fun tho & yea I'd get it to be a whole new animal. You already got a animal of its own kind with a 250 2 stroke
Bought a new 09' yz 250... and bought a new 21' yz 250 last spring... same bike!! Coulda bought any bike... Get another one!! You won't regret it.🤘🤘
The 2-stroke will put your skills to the test much more than the 4-stroke, so don't discouraged if you're not immediately comfortable and fast on it (2T) . Keep practicing , it takes time.
I would say the 2 stroke will make you a better rider in the long run. Like when I came off a yz125 to a FC250 I was hauling ass, definitely wouldn’t be able to without the 2 stroke
I'm coming off a Husky TC150, and I've considered a 24' YZ450, but I honestly don't think I'm ready for it. I think that the YZ250 is a better fit. A year or two on the YZ250 is probably necessary before I'm ready to step up to a 450.
I'm curious how you rate the "feels like" weight of a modern 250 2-stroke vs. a modern 450 4-stroke. for comparison, I weighed 205-210 in my racing days in the schoolboy, 125, and 250 C and B divisions. I absolutely loved the 125 because I could just flick it around in a way that no 250 would allow. is that similar to the modern 250 vs. 450? I enjoyed the video. voice over worked well, and it's nice to get an amateur rider's perspective!
I ride for fun so I picked a 250 2 banger.
Yo prefiero el yz 250 2t ya qué lo puedo ocupar tanto para cross y en el enduro andan de una manera increíble solo tienes que tener las ganas para montarlo
Great info! Thanks for the insight
2 stroke all day long - bring the 500’s back
Currently having the same internal discussion. I have a yz250 (pre 22) and it need a subframe, maybe an opportunity to update to 22 parts ? Or get myself a 22 CRF250. The yz is so fun and fast but it's a ton of work to ride.
nah, man. 2 strokes aren't hard to ride. we're just living in a world where ppl are accustomed to 4 strokes. the real issue is there's no replacement for displacement. you can learn to ride a 250 2-stroke. when you do, you'll be leaving 250 4-strokes in the dust. guaranteed.
Does anyone have a suggestion for setting the front and rear settings. I have started driving again as a senior, after a 40-year break. Yz 250 2022. finds it very confusing to find a good basic setting, which of course is also due to the age and the long break 😂😂😂 My weight with equipment is about 74 kg
Def make sure you start with proper rear sag at around 105mm then go from there with springs!
I ride a kx 65 2009 and I use to ride a ssr70 .
Just got another to add to the collection 2022 yz450f!!!
Good vid mate! Im just wondering what bike do you think i should get out of a 2022 kx 250 or a 2022 kx 450 i own a yz 2022 250 2 stroke atm and am a similar rider to you?
I had a Kx 450 ‘20, now I have a ‘22 Kx 250, and the lap times on the 250 are a lot quicker and more fun to ride
I just got a 2022 yz250 am about 89kgs and have noticed it's very finicky in ruts on straight lines under power. What would you recommend changing?
Put a 490 in it.
Great vid!
2 strokes hands down. It's not comparable in terms of the fun factor
You said you went 8 clicks slower/softer but that is 2 opposite things lol witch one is it? Did you go 8 clicks softer or harder? Because slower is stiffer not softer
Been too long ago I couldn’t tell ya but thanks for the heads up 😜
Dapends if it had elec.start and fuel inj.
Everyone is waiting for a 250 two stroke shootout. Can you find a guy with a new Ktm & husky 250 and trade bikes and do a mini shootout.
Gotta have both, I have a 21 husky 450 and a 03 kx250. I take them both to the track on practice days but if I’m at a race or not just play riding only the 450 comes out I can go faster longer, but there isn’t much that beats the feeling of ringing a 250 smoker but about 3-4 hard laps on it I’m beat where my 450 I can carry a fast pace for 15-20 minutes and only be a little tired
Maybe difference between suspension?)
@@МаксимЧебан-м6х I have both bikes done by the same suspension but without a doubt the newer chassis and suspension comes into play. It’s mostly the power delivery, the 250 it’s either on or off where as my 450 I can roll on it easy and not have the bike rip me off it I can set my cruise control almost on the 450 and smooth 3rd gear the whole track
@@coreyploof217 👌
Where did you get your YZ250?
The dealership in my previous video from Utah!
@@ShelbyPaget Seems like new isn't a bad option if you live in Idaho (no used market and if you find one they are super expensive. Maybe i'll get one new one day too, though i'm thinking the new Kawasaki SXR 1500 standup jet ski. I also want camper & side by side & bike for the son lol. I would make a much better millionaire haha :\
@@ShelbyPaget lmao make up click on the video why don’t you
Where I come from your huiuva lot faster than a vet. Intermediate.. your funny man..lmao
i just ordered this bike and i should have it in a month. Im 6' 4" 240lbs C rider. should the new spring be enough, or do you think a stiffer one would work. we ride mostly sand here
Was the suspension good?
Add a Mako 360 bar mount to fix the vibrations and numb hands and blisters.
I have a 2020 Sherco SE250 Factory the year prior to counter balance. It vibes but not like old Moto bikes.
I got the XCGear Mako 360 bar mount system it is amazing. Took me a while to spend the money super glad I did. I no longer have arm pump and hand cramp after hard rides.
Then I bought the Spurz pegs since the XCGear bar mount worked so good)
Cool video :o) So the 450 is a faster bike though ?
Oh yeah
Considering the YZ250 2T hasn't received any updates ok the motor except for better air intake for the past 17-18 years and it's stock this one.
450
250 is more than I’ll ever need
Same! Haha sometimes I need that lazy torque though haha
And I’m 11 years old 2:20
Always 2 stroke!!!
YZ250F BEST BIKE EVER BUILT .
Buy a rm 250 06
Freshen it up
You'll never regret it
As someone from Europe who is led to believe all Americans are fat, I can't believe how light a lot of these testers are! 150lbs?!?! I weighed that when I was 16. Are there any testers out there to give opinions for real world guys (6ft, 180+lbs)?
I try to gain weight but it won’t stick 😂
@@ShelbyPaget Then you, sir, are a lucky man! 😄
I am from the Czech republic. My weight is 70 kg, I am 47 years old 😂 Now I own kx 450 2022, but I want new yz 250 2t. I don’t want batery, starter, startasistent … I don’t need the best on race, I want enjoy the ride, so yz 250 2t 2023 is waiting for me 😁
Unless you ride every weekend, you will gain weight eating american food. You spend a lots of calories if you ride 3 times a week + keep training the rest of the week to get you strong enough and stay away from injuries.
Keep the 250 buy a 450 then you got the best of both worlds lol..
Good bikes, ugly front fender tho
2-stroke
Now how the f$#k do you find one to buy? ... everything seems out of stock
2 stroke always 2 stroke
250 all day long
So 2 sthroke all day
@@cartergreen9297 they’re so fun
Does nobody know about flywheel weights?? Lol
I hate the sound of 2 stoked bikes. Annoying as fuck
4t
Are there special gloves you can buy lol
You think it's good for 185lbs
That should be about ideal!
You stayed in third the whole time
Def not haha but sure!
@@ShelbyPaget you were kinda slow so I couldn't tell lol
@@mustknowinfo2001 😂
@@ShelbyPaget ktm makes a great big wheel 85 might want to check it out lol increase them lap times 😜
@@mustknowinfo2001 I wouldn’t want to have the same bike as you man! I’ll stick with the big bikes 😜
450