I suggest you read up about how Toyota stonewalled dealers, owners and federal courts about the many inverters that failed time and again in the 3 and 4th generation hybrids. It was very embarrassing for Toyota and exposed them as being no better of a car company than any other brand. My eyes were opened.
@@bhaebe6671 Don’t know about all of that stuff but I’ve had 3 Toyota Hybrid vehicles over the past 16 years and have had ZERO issues with my Hybrid batteries or inverters. So, I can only speak from personal experience.
This is a new hybrid system so time will tell its reliability. But if history serves right; Toyota makes best Hybrid and their stakes are high while releasing this beauty.
I love the way Ahmed articulates and explains the way thi s truck works. I LEARN a LOT from him every single time. Explains BETTER than the dealer that sold ME my 2015 Sienna. On my 2015 Sienna, the headlights can BE tilted and so here I am at an intersection just beaming my lights and blinding the poor guy making a left turn? I learned by myself, I had to TILT headlights down. Nobody showed me HOW to use remote start. So MANY things Ahmed explains so that ONE does NOT have to flip through a manual. EXCELLENT job... DONE explaining. Tells it like it is and throws NO punches. I would love to get my cars serviced by Ahmed and my consolation is that I have a good friend in him (in Illinois). Enjoyed YOUR video and the video edit work and the cameraman and Ahmed - very good DELIVERY of information in a succint way and style. JimmyF in Whitby, Ontario
My new favorite channel. Both this and your second channel have amazing content. Love the car reviews.. Very in depth and go beyond the typical "cup holder count" focusing on all of the interesting mechanical aspects. Keep up the wonderful work and thank you!
Yes, this is also my favorite channel. I can watch his channel all day long. There are so many details to learn from him since I'm into Automotive mechanical and electronic system.
I just came across your channel a few days ago and now subscribed. You sir have quite the talent to explain complex mechanical systems. Hats off! Also owner of a 2018 4runner so obviously a lot of relevant content here!
Great job Amd! You absolutely explained it the way we engineers would explain it to a non-technical audience. Lots of respect to you. 👏 also i was happy how you used the word stationary instead of static and moving for kinetic
Bro in my real world engineers talk like a common lay man term. They only use technical jargon words in technical papers either for presentation or thesis papers. Other than that we talk just like any tom dick and harry.
I've been searching for answers on my 2022 Tundra Limited Hybrid. I finally got the answers I was looking for by watching/listening to this video. I'm also glad I added the block heater. Excellent video. Thank you
I feel like they could've kept the Atkinson cycle. When turbocharged, Atkinson cycle engines can be easily boosted back up decent hp numbers while maintaining higher thermal efficiency. Also, I don't understand why they don't eliminate the hydraulic torque converter. Toyota has already been looking into electromagnetic very high efficiency torque converters for series hybrid vehicles. They could easily eliminate the alternator (which they already have) AND the extra weight of the hydraulic TC by making the electromagnetic torque converter the PRIMARY electric motor that propels the vehicle when the engine is not. Toque converters are heavy and have tons of fluid friction losses. Of course you have Eddy currents with electric motors, but they are a fraction of fluid drag. With such a system you could charge, transmit engine torque, and electrically drive the transmission as well, all simultaneously. And when not directly powering the wheels, it can still use the engine to charge the battery while also regeneratively braking and recovering brake energy to charge the traction battery. All of this while being MUCH lighter and less complex than the current design. And if they saved weight by elimination of the mechanical torque converter, they could throw a beefier inverter in there to handle the higher electrical power conversion demand that would be required by an electromagnetic torque converter hybrid system. OH and perhaps more importantly WHY didn't they go with an E-AWD system for higher efficiency and lower losses? It could also contribute to higher brake energy recovery and higher front wheel torque at low speeds for things like rock crawling. It'd also be SO MUCH lighter. I know Toyota went the conservative route because they were afraid the inbred hicks in Appalachia would reject this truck but I mean... can you really see them buying this anyway? This is for fleet owners, technology inclined high income suburbanites, and people who want to save money and so forth. Plenty of people want this truck... but I feel like the ones who do know A HELL of a lot about what Toyota is capable of and are going to be slightly disappointed (like myself) that Toyota didn't go further with the hybrid model. If we're to ever consider buying one if need the following changes: -Boosted V6 BUT Atkinson (so this would actually be called MILLER cycle) -Electromagnetic torque converting hybrid (per Toyota's research on split stator single rotor design study: I will link below to the abstract released on the data from Toyota) LINK: www.jstor.org/stable/26169127 -E4X4, with conventional rear axle BUT ELECTRIC MOTOR driven front transaxle -BEEFIER inverter for more E-Boost AND to provision for the OPTION to have tons of 120/240VAC power outlets throughout the truck. Ford got this SO right w/ PowerBoost Basically all I'm asking for is more electric boost, less inefficient, unreliable and heavy mechanical parts, actually better fuel economy, E4X4 achieved with an electric front transaxle, and feature parity with other similar hybrid pickups (ie, mainly the Ford F150 PowerBoost). They are SO close to perfection here. If the PowerBoost and i-Force MAX we're frankensteined together that'd be the hybrid pickup truck of my dreams.
Great explanation. This man knows it's business. Was very informative. For those who think this system will not be as reliable as regular non hybrid, I think that in 3-5 years there will be available parts and solutions of how to fix it by ourselves in our garages without stealership involvement
@@roywalker7512 in some ways they do since the water pumps and such are all electric the engine is less complex and therefore more reliable but i still think the transmission is bit more complex than the gas counterparts.
It's not as bad as you might think. I have a prius with 120k miles and a highlander hybrid with 200k miles. There's only one time I ran across something that needed a professional to fix. Regular maintenance can be done in the home garage.
AMD, When we give ourselves enough time to really assess these new Hybrids, I expect we will see Toyota got far more right than wrong. Having said that, I would like to see some pickups engineered for maximum fuel efficiency and maximum practicality rather than maximum 'performance'. As inspiration I think of the sensible T100 with an available 8 foot bed or the small, basic, 4 cylinder, RWD Toyota pickups of yesteryear. Yes folks, sometimes adequate is all we really need. Today too many trucks seem to be built to excess. 😁
Toyota should bring back the Gen1 Tundra as a "1500" and move the current Tundra up to a "2500". I had both and the Gen1 was more than adequate for 90% of it's owners. Of course update it with a modern interior and H/E V6.
I tow 1600kg with my RX450H and it copes very well, better than my previous diesel 4x4. The ecvt is not hindered in any way and neither does the engine temperature increase. It's the best tow car I've had in decades of towing.
Most 4x4 diesels won’t be happy unless you put many thousands of lbs behind them. The suv is very well capable of your light towing needs and is probably the better choice anyhow. Most people with light weight toes don’t need a diesel truck.
Do you park your RX in a garage year round or outdoors? Do you live in an area with frigid winter temps? I park my daily commuter vehicles outdoors year round and I’m worried EV’s and hybrids won’t last long in our winters. We routinely get temps of -30 to -40 celsius in the winter months. Those temps kill batteries.
My 2025 Camry Hybrid is parked outside also. Western Wa. does not get below 28F very often and then only for short periods. I also kept my 2015 Outback for winter mountain use.
I have a 5th gen 4Runner and I love it. I hope Toyota offers a 6th gen hybrid 4Runner with more power and a little better gas mileage. I'll have to wait 2-3 years for it and that should be enough time for Toyota to work out any bugs in this new hybrid system.
Thank you for making great videos. I am a Toyota Technician and enjoy watching your videos so I can see and understand what Toyota does and why. I hope you have a video of the new corolla GR coming up soon. I still haven't seen one on my lot yet.
Watching this video just blows my mind away of how technical we have become with vehicles. Its my first full size pick up. Simply love the TRD-PRO. The truck drives amazing. Love the Hybrid system. I have noticed when I'm on the high way driving at a nice pace the Hybrid is enabled maintaining the highway speed and the engine is asleep. Simply blown away by this truck.
Probably not- the 5.7 will go easy 500,000 miles on basic maintenance. The twin turbos and hybrid battery will NEVER last 500,000 miles on basic maintenance. So whatever you saved on gas gets BUNRED 🔥 all in one go when you need to buy or rebuild 2 turbochargers, intercoolers, and and new batteries. And as the batteries age they become less efficient so when you were getting 17mpg in the city when it was new, it’ll drop easily down to 16-15-14 etc until it needs replacement. I’d put my money on ownership is gonna be probably more money on a 15-20 year ownership of the hybrid vs the 5.7 truck. The video I saw of the hybrid in the real world it was getting 16mpg average City and the 5.7 gets 10. Yeah it’s better, but it’s not a HUGE savings. And when your saving at the pump, are you really gonna take that savings and set it aside so it’s ready to spend when you gotta pay big maintenance costs or replace batteries? Not a chance.
My 2011 Tundra with the 5.7l dropped a valve at 88,000 miles which destroyed the entire engine. Talk about expensive maintenance costs lol. The 5.7l was generally a good motor but not without faults and it’s not indestructible.
@@mrDmastr19 hybrids will have less maintenance. The hybrids are good on brakes and they will last longer. The Prius battery last 250Kmiles, which is a lifetime for some Prius. The maintenance on engine is also on longer intervals than ICE cars as drivetrain puts less strain on engine. The timing chain will never need replacement. Anyway that's with Prius and similar hybrids. Can say much about Tundra.
Great explanation. Most people don't know the difference between an engine and a motor. Engine is gas, Motor is electric! Simple. thanks for the videos!
On the oil circulation comment in the cold, my understanding on my 2022 RAV4 was the electric oil pump circulates the oil before the ICE comes on. When I hit the start button when it’s cold in my garage I can hear another electric motor running before it starts. This is not the brake system building pressure when I open the door. Am I correct??
Car Nut,thank you for the awesome review. Job well done. Good information. I’m in the market for a new truck and I was considering buying a Tundra. I’ve been researching all truck brands I will definitely used this intell to determine which truck I’ll buy. Thanks again!
@@ecrush5080 LFP are more stable than NMC but still not as safe as NiMH and they don't have the energy density of NMC; they are popular now because they are cheaper and can be fully charged without suffering degradation, unlike NMC.
2019 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro on 295/70/18 tires, 11.5-12.5mpg. 2023 TRD Pro on 35/12.50/18 tires is 13.5mpg. I am living the dream now with fuel efficiency...
Yeah, these automobile manufacturers seem to forget that half the world is still developing and gasoline is the life's blood of that development. Auto makers need to offer gasoline options for all of their models
After seeing this video my comments are what could possibly go wrong and the answer is an awful lot. Perhaps that's why the cost is so high they have to build in a buffer for warranty claims. Given all the pumps giving all the fans giving all the high voltage electrical equipment it looks like a nightmare for the owner if he keeps it beyond the warranty.
As good as Toyota’s hybrid system is I think Ford’s system has changed people’s expectations for what it can do. Ford’s ability to use the truck as a generator was a game changer. It’s been in the media about how people have used it during natural disasters and even about Ford loaning them out to help with recovery. Buyers will expect the Tundra Hybrid to do the same thing as the F-150 Powerboost.
@@rightlanehog3151 The F150 is having all kinds of issues. The Raptor breaks tie rods if you take it off road. I’d trust the Silverado I4 Turbo over any F150.
At my dealership, a fellow tech worked on a 2022 Solar Octane TRD Pro tundra that had just over 4,000 miles. Mice had already chewed up the wire going to the knock sensor and it has a dash full of lights. I hate mice.
I just started at a Toyota dealer a couple months ago and I have never seen so much mouse evidence/damage. They seem to really like Toyotas for some reason.
I wonder what condition the wiring harnesses are in on the large number of brand new 2023 and even a few 2022 Trucks of various manufacturers still on Dealer lots. Floorplan costs and reconditioning must be destroying their profit margins.
This is the best, most informative video on the Tundra TRD Pro that I have seen and I have watched a BOATLOAD of videos/reviews for this truck as I am researching before purchase. Thanks for this. GREAT JOB!
Very sophisticated and well thought out motor. However, I just can’t see how this motor will outlast and be more reliable than the V8….. way too many moving parts……
Interesting overview, I have owned 10 Lexus Hyybrids, latest being an RG450. However, the last IS i owned was an F Sport, great car, but, found a flaw in the design and its the 12V keep alive battery, because the car was not used frequently, the main battery died, and subsequently the 12V battery died, then the problem started, how yo get into the car, then how to access the 12 battery battery So, the system you are presenting has the same fundamental flaw.
Simplicity was what had made Toyota's legendary reputation for reliability. All these sound awfully complicated. Only time could tell if this system is as durable and dependable as their V8.
Your're right! Simplicity is in the past. Now everything is so complicated. Everyone is happy with those new Cars until something breaks down and the nightmares start. Would these cars/trucks last 20-30 years/400-500k miles?
I follow alot of channels talking about car ..but Ahmed mixing the knowledge with great present and presnation and his voice make him a star too. He need a talk show
I have to ask what if Toyota keep the V8 and just added the 10 speed transmission to the tundra seems like it would be on par with the new Hybrid better MPG and still million mile capable with much less complexity.
Another awesome video, thanks. I was thinking the whole time that this vehicle if probably really, really expensive (not for my family). The video was long, but I understand it was a lot to cover. I appreciate getting all of the info. This is a great channel!
Waiting to see if Toyota applies the same updates to the Corolla hybrid. Really puts the Prius in a premium position as opposed to just a different body from the Corolla. Of course that would put pressure on the Camry and Crown. Toyota seems to be targeting EVs with the Prius while they figure out their full strategy.
The only reason the Prius has that much power is because they're using the dynamic Force engine. Coupled with the electric motor. Those motors put out very well even better once they get moving on out..
I regular gas Camry (4banger) does 0-60 in 8 seconds, the hybrid Camry does it in 7.2. Comparatively the new Prius (non plug-in) does it In 7.2 and the Prime does it in ) 6.6 sec. So as you can see all three of these smoke a 4 cylinder gas only Camry.
@@tails300 All cars do not run the same and you call .8 seconds smoking a car..🤣 Electric cars and hybrid cars really do smoke when they get wet and catch on fire.. Too many bad drawbacks..
Thank you for well explained... uou answered all my questions. I myself owned 2 gen 2 and 2 gen 3 prius and 1 camry hybrids... and i was happy when i found out that thee made a hybrid tundra... however when i found out the gas mileage made me ask myself why its not giving more gas mileage.... then you explained what this hybrid system is. Thank you
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 For sure! That’s why my 2023 RAV4 Hybrid Premium is on order. Our baby is due in April of 2023 after a full year of waiting.
I just ordered a 2023 corolla hybrid awd. After watching a review on it's fuel economy, I realized that it'll utilized the electric motor at highway speeds! Prior versions of Toyota's hybrid system only worked around 45mph and under. That's wild!
I’m keeping my 19’ 1794 till the wheels fall off!! … you can’t possibly tell me that all this new technology is going to stand the test of time and durability. And most importantly longevity.
You're right, the hybrid is not the answer but battery electric is. When the 400-500mi Tundra electric Tundra appears, thats the one to get for lonegvity.
End of last video about Toyota hybrids: Toyota does not change things that work! Start of next video about Toyota Hybrids: Toyota have changed everything!
I mean, the TFL tests of the new iForce Max have it at 13 mpg while towing. That’s about what my 5.7 gets empty. If I didn’t already have a 2021 Tundra I’d consider it, but I don’t really see a reason to upgrade. Supposedly the ride is much better with the coils and the lower rear pinion makes for a quieter highway ride. I just love the sound of Beast mode when i uncork the 5.7. And it’s a proven million mile motor.
2023 Volvo trucks (tracktors, 18 wheelers or whatever you call them there) in Europe can pull 13T of payload with 10-11mpg. 13mpg does not sound that impressive.
That’s just it…it’s not. :) Remember though most lorries in Europe are max 80-100 kph or less. Typical loads here are going long stretches on the interstate highway system at 110-120 kph. And maximum weights are 36 metric tonnes, sometimes much more.
I think 2021 was the last year for the 5.7L. I don't know if Toyota has solved the issues with the new 3.4L Turbos yet. It must have cost Toyota a small fortune for all the rebuilds done under warranty.
Taken my 24 hybrid over many mountain passes over 12,000 feet, there’s no lack of desire for power. Barely runs over 2000 rpm’s. 10 speed is wonderful for engine breaking on the way down.
I was about to ask about the starter and you mentioned it. Now that's so different from the Camry I build in Georgetown. I am on the engine line and we put a plate on in place of the starter. That is awesome they did that on the tundra.. Makes so much sense.
transmission wouldn't know the difference, cause power always comes through the electric motor. Even if you took out the engine and replaced the space with batteries, transmission wouldn't know... :D
I've got a 2023 Yaris Cross AWD Hybrid and am currently getting 3.4 litres per 100km and sometimes as low as 3.3 litres/100km (over 70mpg) in a mixture of peak hour urban traffic and motorway traffic and using the standard/normal driving mode. If I need a sudden burst of power and put my foot down, this care is almost frighteningly fast. It's well appointed and a seriously good car.
@@jamesdarcy3902 That’s pretty good for a car that size. A few weeks ago I drove from Cronulla to artarmon and back on 2.9L/100k. The terrain was perfect for regen and cruising on battery power. It would have been 2.8 but I live at the top of a hill and the motor kicked in and spoiled the party. These cars are amazing!
Great design but so many parts to replace if any of those parts fails plus it makes it super complicated. Simplicity has been thrown to the wayside. Let’s make it complex and expensive to repair when it breaks down.
Great explanation for dummies like me. Such brilliant system that barely helps with the gas efficiency. I was disappointed about that but now I understand it better. Thank you!
From my "frame of reference" -- a '77 FJ-40 -- hybrid vehicles TOTALLY violate the KISS rule. That said, I am learning enough about hybrids via your videos that I will likely stick She Who Owns Me into a RAV4 Hybrid two years from now. I will continue to do the gasoline engine oil changes but for everything else, She will have to throw money at the stealership.
Arguably the transmission the rav4's hybrid system replaces is way more complicated, at least mechanically. Most of what you're likely to be needing is going to be normal car maintenance other than maybe a hybrid battery way down the road
Now this leaves me wonder what the new 4runner / Prado is going to run on. For tundra, 5600 lbs +- is way out of regular HSD's category, so probably that's why they chose this "mild" hybrid system. The heaviest vehicle that a regular HSD drives is LS500h, which is around 5000 lbs. Interestingly though, as much as HSD seems to work much more efficiently than this mild hybrid system, the city MPG of a LS500h is not wildly better than a hybrid Tundra. I hope next gen 4runner can learn from these current heavy duty hybrid systems and improve on them.
Excellent video as always, but I'm glad I have a "simple" 3rd Gen Tacoma with a manual transmission. We also have a Rav4 prime. The hybrid drive train on the Rav4 seems to be far less of a kludge of automatic transmission, clutches, radiators, pumps, and electrical "glue" work. Granted the Rav4 prime has a bit of a complicated cooling/AC system, but the Tundra Hybrid drive train seems to take the complexity and single points of failure to a whole new level.
I am a big fan of the 3rd generation manual Tacoma and have driven several. Does yours have the 2.7 or 4.0? Time will tell if new tech proves to be as reliable.
Congratulations on so many subscribers in what I think is record time for a car channel! And thanks for your excellent videos! I know it *just* came out, but can you explain what changed in the 5th generation hybrid used in the 2023 Prius? And *why* wouldn't they use this new more efficient system in the Lexus RX? My only thought (with zero technical information) is that perhaps the 5th gen hybrid system is for small, lighter weight vehicles only.
Thats a nice truck! oh ! I just did my first DIY job on my 06 Camry! I replaced the starter, then realized I just had a bad battery! But now she starts like new!
I'd planned on buying this truck with the hybrid system until I found out about the overall MPG. Sales of this hybrid truck I believe will not be what Toyota had hoped for especially with the price difference between the non-hybrid and hybrid truck. Toyota will miss out on potential buyers when they decided to ramp up the power over MPG for this hybrid system.
Toyota really screwed up the iforce max hybrid power train. Given that A. it took 15 years to make a hybrid truck and that B. Toyotas the master of hybrids, it doesn’t even manage to be more efficient than the f150 hybrid. Toyota really failed badly with this Their regular hybrids though are great
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 well they will not do it anyway tho since their v8 is infamous for being ancient and truly gas guzzler which all emissions norms and epa restrict them. But don't know hydro powered v8 maybe will get flopp
It's so sad that the RWD hybrid systems with the naturally aspirated engines are basically gone. The LS 500h is superior to the LS 500. Imagine that hybrid in a modern GS. Oh well, it's all going downhill.
The ls500h is a joke. First off the up charge is much much higher than ever before. Previously it used to be a few K but now it’s $30K extra to get the hyhrid
@@naveenthemachine I had to go to the Lexus website to check. You are right on stuff but it just sounds so outlandish I had to see for myself and OH MY GOD WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!? This is not the LS 600h why is it so much more expensive? Do they want to sell zero vehicles? The hybrid is great because it's just as fast as the V35A and saves a ton of fuel but nobody in their right mind thinks that's the top powertrain worthy of paying 30k to get it. Toyota/Lexus what are you doing 😭
You just have more power with a hybrid.. No increase in gas mileage and a lot more headaches if it ever messes up and more maintenance.. I don't see what good it is.
When it comes to Toyota Hybrid technology, the best predictor of future reliability is past reliability. And Toyota has been pretty darn reliable.
I suggest you read up about how Toyota stonewalled dealers, owners and federal courts about the many inverters that failed time and again in the 3 and 4th generation hybrids. It was very embarrassing for Toyota and exposed them as being no better of a car company than any other brand. My eyes were opened.
@@bhaebe6671 Don’t know about all of that stuff but I’ve had 3 Toyota Hybrid vehicles over the past 16 years and have had ZERO issues with my Hybrid batteries or inverters. So, I can only speak from personal experience.
@@bhaebe6671 My inverter blew a power transistor. Toyota replaced the inverter under warranty in 24 hours. Cost to me: zero.
But they be bust in 3 years. Bye bye self charging people 👋🏻
This is a new hybrid system so time will tell its reliability. But if history serves right; Toyota makes best Hybrid and their stakes are high while releasing this beauty.
Thanks! Love how informative your videos are. Thank you for taking the time to make them.
I love the way Ahmed articulates and explains the way thi s truck works. I LEARN a LOT from him every single time. Explains BETTER than the dealer that sold ME my 2015 Sienna. On my 2015 Sienna, the headlights can BE tilted and so here I am at an intersection just beaming my lights and blinding the poor guy making a left turn? I learned by myself, I had to TILT headlights down. Nobody showed me HOW to use remote start. So MANY things Ahmed explains so that ONE does NOT have to flip through a manual.
EXCELLENT job... DONE explaining. Tells it like it is and throws NO punches. I would love to get my cars serviced by Ahmed and my consolation is that I have a good friend in him (in Illinois). Enjoyed YOUR video and the video edit work and the cameraman and Ahmed - very good DELIVERY of information in a succint way and style. JimmyF in Whitby, Ontario
I very much agree.
By the way, the correct spelling of his name is "Amd".
Your car comes with a manual. You might want to read it
My new favorite channel. Both this and your second channel have amazing content. Love the car reviews.. Very in depth and go beyond the typical "cup holder count" focusing on all of the interesting mechanical aspects. Keep up the wonderful work and thank you!
Second channel? Can u please share the link?
@@dt5656 Check out the second channel :
th-cam.com/channels/UPP.html... Just hit see more at the top
@@dt5656 it's called The Car Care Nut Remix. It's for non toyota/Lexus reviews and content
Yes, this is also my favorite channel. I can watch his channel all day long. There are so many details to learn from him since I'm into Automotive mechanical and electronic system.
I just came across your channel a few days ago and now subscribed. You sir have quite the talent to explain complex mechanical systems. Hats off! Also owner of a 2018 4runner so obviously a lot of relevant content here!
Check his back catalogue, there is a wealth of solid information for Toyota owners.
Your review and explanation of the technical side of the new Hybrid Tundra is by far the BEST review and explanation available. Bravo sir!
Great job Amd! You absolutely explained it the way we engineers would explain it to a non-technical audience. Lots of respect to you. 👏 also i was happy how you used the word stationary instead of static and moving for kinetic
Bro in my real world engineers talk like a common lay man term. They only use technical jargon words in technical papers either for presentation or thesis papers. Other than that we talk just like any tom dick and harry.
I've been searching for answers on my 2022 Tundra Limited Hybrid. I finally got the answers I was looking for by watching/listening to this video.
I'm also glad I added the block heater.
Excellent video. Thank you
I feel like they could've kept the Atkinson cycle. When turbocharged, Atkinson cycle engines can be easily boosted back up decent hp numbers while maintaining higher thermal efficiency.
Also, I don't understand why they don't eliminate the hydraulic torque converter. Toyota has already been looking into electromagnetic very high efficiency torque converters for series hybrid vehicles. They could easily eliminate the alternator (which they already have) AND the extra weight of the hydraulic TC by making the electromagnetic torque converter the PRIMARY electric motor that propels the vehicle when the engine is not. Toque converters are heavy and have tons of fluid friction losses. Of course you have Eddy currents with electric motors, but they are a fraction of fluid drag. With such a system you could charge, transmit engine torque, and electrically drive the transmission as well, all simultaneously. And when not directly powering the wheels, it can still use the engine to charge the battery while also regeneratively braking and recovering brake energy to charge the traction battery. All of this while being MUCH lighter and less complex than the current design. And if they saved weight by elimination of the mechanical torque converter, they could throw a beefier inverter in there to handle the higher electrical power conversion demand that would be required by an electromagnetic torque converter hybrid system.
OH and perhaps more importantly WHY didn't they go with an E-AWD system for higher efficiency and lower losses? It could also contribute to higher brake energy recovery and higher front wheel torque at low speeds for things like rock crawling. It'd also be SO MUCH lighter. I know Toyota went the conservative route because they were afraid the inbred hicks in Appalachia would reject this truck but I mean... can you really see them buying this anyway? This is for fleet owners, technology inclined high income suburbanites, and people who want to save money and so forth. Plenty of people want this truck... but I feel like the ones who do know A HELL of a lot about what Toyota is capable of and are going to be slightly disappointed (like myself) that Toyota didn't go further with the hybrid model. If we're to ever consider buying one if need the following changes:
-Boosted V6 BUT Atkinson (so this would actually be called MILLER cycle)
-Electromagnetic torque converting hybrid (per Toyota's research on split stator single rotor design study: I will link below to the abstract released on the data from Toyota)
LINK: www.jstor.org/stable/26169127
-E4X4, with conventional rear axle BUT ELECTRIC MOTOR driven front transaxle
-BEEFIER inverter for more E-Boost AND to provision for the OPTION to have tons of 120/240VAC power outlets throughout the truck. Ford got this SO right w/ PowerBoost
Basically all I'm asking for is more electric boost, less inefficient, unreliable and heavy mechanical parts, actually better fuel economy, E4X4 achieved with an electric front transaxle, and feature parity with other similar hybrid pickups (ie, mainly the Ford F150 PowerBoost).
They are SO close to perfection here. If the PowerBoost and i-Force MAX we're frankensteined together that'd be the hybrid pickup truck of my dreams.
Great explanation. This man knows it's business. Was very informative. For those who think this system will not be as reliable as regular non hybrid, I think that in 3-5 years there will be available parts and solutions of how to fix it by ourselves in our garages without stealership involvement
Toyota has a proven hybrid system but I am still skeptical about ALL the moving parts that could possibly fail. Great vid!
Me as well
According to consumer reports they are the most reliable class of vehicles which is pretty funny considering all those moving parts
@@JoeyLindsay I thought Hybrids had less moving parts, because a lot of the ice engine parts are electric not mechanical, but hey what doi know Lol.
@@roywalker7512 in some ways they do since the water pumps and such are all electric the engine is less complex and therefore more reliable but i still think the transmission is bit more complex than the gas counterparts.
Best tundra review on youtube.
I’ve been a little weary of this truck. I have V8 2016 Tundra. Thanks for clearing up the new Tundra build! Excellent explanation!
I like to work on my own cars/trucks. This system seems way too complicated for me. Curious to see how it holds up 10+ years from now.
It's not as bad as you might think. I have a prius with 120k miles and a highlander hybrid with 200k miles. There's only one time I ran across something that needed a professional to fix. Regular maintenance can be done in the home garage.
i feel the same, when there will be an issue with any of the electrical/hybrid systems you'll be at the expense of the stealership.
@@jeffreycastles Its not maint issues we want to fix on our own vehicles.
@Phillip Banes actually high voltage DC is not as bad as HV AC to work with...
@@jeffreycastles They are not the same as your old hybrid system. and even old one if you brake controller fails it costs a lot to fix.
AMD, When we give ourselves enough time to really assess these new Hybrids, I expect we will see Toyota got far more right than wrong. Having said that, I would like to see some pickups engineered for maximum fuel efficiency and maximum practicality rather than maximum 'performance'. As inspiration I think of the sensible T100 with an available 8 foot bed or the small, basic, 4 cylinder, RWD Toyota pickups of yesteryear. Yes folks, sometimes adequate is all we really need. Today too many trucks seem to be built to excess. 😁
But it's 10 years behind
Everyone knows if you’re aiming for fuel efficiency, get a small vehicle.
Trucks are for hauling heavy things, not for cruising
The T100 was awesome! I hope the next generation Tacoma can be as great as the T100!✅🆗🆒
Toyota should bring back the Gen1 Tundra as a "1500" and move the current Tundra up to a "2500". I had both and the Gen1 was more than adequate for 90% of it's owners. Of course update it with a modern interior and H/E V6.
Absolutely right
I really like the fact that they offer a hybrid for the Tundra, but the under seat storage is more valuable to me than the hybrid upgrade.
yeah he said this truck had just as much space as the non hybrid, then showed how it doesnt have as much space lol.
Considering you need to drive 345,000 miles to pay off the hybrid's additional cost, yeah it's so not worth it.
600 torque. That alone is why you should get the hybrid
Totally agree with you. This is the reason I never bought the previous gen Tundra... I bought a 4Runner instead. I wish I have gone with a Seqoia...
@@oldmanmike4995 It will get worse fuel economy while towing than the non-hybrid.😂
Love these technical breakdowns.
Your dedication to offering a quality TH-cam channel is phenomenal; congrats.
I tow 1600kg with my RX450H and it copes very well, better than my previous diesel 4x4. The ecvt is not hindered in any way and neither does the engine temperature increase. It's the best tow car I've had in decades of towing.
Most 4x4 diesels won’t be happy unless you put many thousands of lbs behind them.
The suv is very well capable of your light towing needs and is probably the better choice anyhow. Most people with light weight toes don’t need a diesel truck.
Do you park your RX in a garage year round or outdoors? Do you live in an area with frigid winter temps? I park my daily commuter vehicles outdoors year round and I’m worried EV’s and hybrids won’t last long in our winters. We routinely get temps of -30 to -40 celsius in the winter months. Those temps kill batteries.
@beri232 Mine is parked outdoors all year round but we don't get extremes of temperatures such as that. -5 degrees centigrade to +30 at most
My 2025 Camry Hybrid is parked outside also. Western Wa. does not get below 28F very often and then only for short periods. I also kept my 2015 Outback for winter mountain use.
I have a 5th gen 4Runner and I love it. I hope Toyota offers a 6th gen hybrid 4Runner with more power and a little better gas mileage. I'll have to wait 2-3 years for it and that should be enough time for Toyota to work out any bugs in this new hybrid system.
Nah, Toyota will make it a "hybrid" for "power" only and it won't get better mpg.
@@ewxltit will probably get the 4cyl version if this powertrain with similar number to the 5.7
Thanks!
Thank you for making great videos. I am a Toyota Technician and enjoy watching your videos so I can see and understand what Toyota does and why. I hope you have a video of the new corolla GR coming up soon. I still haven't seen one on my lot yet.
If your a Toyota Tech., why aren't they training you ? Apprentice perhaps
Watching this video just blows my mind away of how technical we have become with vehicles. Its my first full size pick up. Simply love the TRD-PRO. The truck drives amazing. Love the Hybrid system. I have noticed when I'm on the high way driving at a nice pace the Hybrid is enabled maintaining the highway speed and the engine is asleep. Simply blown away by this truck.
It will be interesting someday to have a side by side comparison of the overall cost of ownership of a 10 year old Hybrid Tundra vs 5.7L Tundra.
Probably not- the 5.7 will go easy 500,000 miles on basic maintenance.
The twin turbos and hybrid battery will NEVER last 500,000 miles on basic maintenance.
So whatever you saved on gas gets BUNRED 🔥 all in one go when you need to buy or rebuild 2 turbochargers, intercoolers, and and new batteries. And as the batteries age they become less efficient so when you were getting 17mpg in the city when it was new, it’ll drop easily down to 16-15-14 etc until it needs replacement.
I’d put my money on ownership is gonna be probably more money on a 15-20 year ownership of the hybrid vs the 5.7 truck.
The video I saw of the hybrid in the real world it was getting 16mpg average City and the 5.7 gets 10. Yeah it’s better, but it’s not a HUGE savings. And when your saving at the pump, are you really gonna take that savings and set it aside so it’s ready to spend when you gotta pay big maintenance costs or replace batteries? Not a chance.
My 2011 Tundra with the 5.7l dropped a valve at 88,000 miles which destroyed the entire engine. Talk about expensive maintenance costs lol. The 5.7l was generally a good motor but not without faults and it’s not indestructible.
@@debratakahara2494 nothing is- that’s EXTREMELY rare for that motor
Yep
@@mrDmastr19 hybrids will have less maintenance. The hybrids are good on brakes and they will last longer. The Prius battery last 250Kmiles, which is a lifetime for some Prius. The maintenance on engine is also on longer intervals than ICE cars as drivetrain puts less strain on engine. The timing chain will never need replacement. Anyway that's with Prius and similar hybrids. Can say much about Tundra.
Great explanation. Most people don't know the difference between an engine and a motor. Engine is gas, Motor is electric! Simple. thanks for the videos!
On the oil circulation comment in the cold, my understanding on my 2022 RAV4 was the electric oil pump circulates the oil before the ICE comes on. When I hit the start button when it’s cold in my garage I can hear another electric motor running before it starts. This is not the brake system building pressure when I open the door. Am I correct??
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Thank for explaining how this system works, the dealer wouldn't explain it in the way you did thanks. Now I want this truck even more.
Car Nut,thank you for the awesome review. Job well done. Good information. I’m in the market for a new truck and I was considering buying a Tundra. I’ve been researching all truck brands I will definitely used this intell to determine which truck I’ll buy. Thanks again!
The NiMH battery is also a lot safer than Li-Ion, specially for its mount position inside the car, under the rear seats!
NexPower will be bringing out a Lithium replacement battery in a few years. Lithium releases it's power faster.
Nexpower Lion for Prius is $2500. Replacement NIMH from dealer is $3400.
Right; I charge my NiMH batteries at home but I only charge my Li-Ion device batteries at work..
NOT true if we talking about LFP type of "Li-on" Battery tho....
@@ecrush5080
LFP are more stable than NMC but still not as safe as NiMH and they don't have the energy density of NMC; they are popular now because they are cheaper and can be fully charged without suffering degradation, unlike NMC.
2019 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro on 295/70/18 tires, 11.5-12.5mpg. 2023 TRD Pro on 35/12.50/18 tires is 13.5mpg. I am living the dream now with fuel efficiency...
I wished they kept the 5.7L V8 as an option. I would consider one of these in a heartbeat if it was still available since I know it'll last a lifetime
Yeah, these automobile manufacturers seem to forget that half the world is still developing and gasoline is the life's blood of that development. Auto makers need to offer gasoline options for all of their models
Okay, sold! My 4Runner gets 19-20 mpg, so I am getting for the reasons he stated. Upgrade from my 4runner power for sure!!
After seeing this video my comments are what could possibly go wrong and the answer is an awful lot. Perhaps that's why the cost is so high they have to build in a buffer for warranty claims. Given all the pumps giving all the fans giving all the high voltage electrical equipment it looks like a nightmare for the owner if he keeps it beyond the warranty.
The way you explain this is top notch brotha
Very interesting and my decision to keep my 2014 Tundra V-8 4x4 seems like a good one!!!
Great job!!! Thank you!!!
I’m seriously considering one in the distant future
As good as Toyota’s hybrid system is I think Ford’s system has changed people’s expectations for what it can do. Ford’s ability to use the truck as a generator was a game changer. It’s been in the media about how people have used it during natural disasters and even about Ford loaning them out to help with recovery. Buyers will expect the Tundra Hybrid to do the same thing as the F-150 Powerboost.
You may be right. Let's revisit F-150 and Tundra reliability in 10 years.
@@rightlanehog3151 Tundra’s reliability will be far better as always but Ford will still sell 3X as many trucks.
@@rightlanehog3151 The F150 is having all kinds of issues. The Raptor breaks tie rods if you take it off road. I’d trust the Silverado I4 Turbo over any F150.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Good for you and bailout truck
Too bad that Ford built junk as they always do.
How would this be off the road where I left there's a lot of gravel roads and a lot of water and northern BC
At my dealership, a fellow tech worked on a 2022 Solar Octane TRD Pro tundra that had just over 4,000 miles. Mice had already chewed up the wire going to the knock sensor and it has a dash full of lights. I hate mice.
I just started at a Toyota dealer a couple months ago and I have never seen so much mouse evidence/damage. They seem to really like Toyotas for some reason.
@@Averna222 it’s because Toyota uses soy based ingredients in the wiring harness
Toyota didnt learn from Benz from the early 2000s it seems. Biodegradable wires would attract the mice
I wonder what condition the wiring harnesses are in on the large number of brand new 2023 and even a few 2022 Trucks of various manufacturers still on Dealer lots. Floorplan costs and reconditioning must be destroying their profit margins.
This is the best, most informative video on the Tundra TRD Pro that I have seen and I have watched a BOATLOAD of videos/reviews for this truck as I am researching before purchase. Thanks for this. GREAT JOB!
Will you review the 2023 Prius when it comes available later this year or early 2023??
So glad to see you explain how my exactly same truck operates! Very informative!
Very sophisticated and well thought out motor.
However, I just can’t see how this motor will outlast and be more reliable than the V8….. way too many moving parts……
Would love to have a Tundra to go along with my Rav :D Very great explanations, you are awesome as usual
Interesting overview, I have owned 10 Lexus Hyybrids, latest being an RG450. However, the last IS i owned was an F Sport, great car, but, found a flaw in the design and its the 12V keep alive battery, because the car was not used frequently, the main battery died, and subsequently the 12V battery died, then the problem started, how yo get into the car, then how to access the 12 battery battery So, the system you are presenting has the same fundamental flaw.
*GREAT* videography : focusing on the parts being discussed, rather than on the speaker. Well done !
Simplicity was what had made Toyota's legendary reputation for reliability. All these sound awfully complicated. Only time could tell if this system is as durable and dependable as their V8.
Your're right!
Simplicity is in the past. Now everything is so complicated. Everyone is happy with those new Cars until something breaks down and the nightmares start.
Would these cars/trucks last 20-30 years/400-500k miles?
Will not be.
They have taken their eye off the goal posts.
I follow alot of channels talking about car ..but Ahmed mixing the knowledge with great present and presnation and his voice make him a star too.
He need a talk show
By the way, the correct spelling of his name is "Amd".
Get the 2023 GX 460 V8 while you still can.
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You are such a smooth talker! Didn't fast forward a second through out the video :D Thank you SUBSCRIBED!!!
I have to ask what if Toyota keep the V8 and just added the 10 speed transmission to the tundra seems like it would be on par with the new Hybrid better MPG and still million mile capable with much less complexity.
These engineering decisions are based on emissions and not necessarily efficiency.
It is the EPA enforcing the green energy scam. Diesels are still widely used in the Highlux outside of N America
Another awesome video, thanks. I was thinking the whole time that this vehicle if probably really, really expensive (not for my family). The video was long, but I understand it was a lot to cover. I appreciate getting all of the info. This is a great channel!
I think it's a vast improvement.
You now have a hybrid Prius that's as fast as a 4 cylinder Camry, or faster with the Prime.
Waiting to see if Toyota applies the same updates to the Corolla hybrid. Really puts the Prius in a premium position as opposed to just a different body from the Corolla. Of course that would put pressure on the Camry and Crown. Toyota seems to be targeting EVs with the Prius while they figure out their full strategy.
@@MacGyver1991 I'm hoping for a Camry Prime AWD
The only reason the Prius has that much power is because they're using the dynamic Force engine. Coupled with the electric motor. Those motors put out very well even better once they get moving on out..
I regular gas Camry (4banger) does 0-60 in 8 seconds, the hybrid Camry does it in 7.2. Comparatively the new Prius (non plug-in) does it In 7.2 and the Prime does it in ) 6.6 sec. So as you can see all three of these smoke a 4 cylinder gas only Camry.
@@tails300 All cars do not run the same and you call .8 seconds smoking a car..🤣
Electric cars and hybrid cars really do smoke when they get wet and catch on fire.. Too many bad drawbacks..
Great
Thanks
Now bring all new models and new hybrid tech of Toyota to your hoist. We will love it 👍
Just wondering if Toyota fixed their bad, rusty frames. And could you explain what Toyota did to fix it, thanks
Thank you for well explained... uou answered all my questions. I myself owned 2 gen 2 and 2 gen 3 prius and 1 camry hybrids... and i was happy when i found out that thee made a hybrid tundra... however when i found out the gas mileage made me ask myself why its not giving more gas mileage.... then you explained what this hybrid system is. Thank you
I can see why a pure electric car / truck with a battery and drive motors would be so much simpler to build and service.
Yet all of this works and will give you fewer problems than any Tesla ever could.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 For sure! That’s why my 2023 RAV4 Hybrid Premium is on order. Our baby is due in April of 2023 after a full year of waiting.
I just ordered a 2023 corolla hybrid awd. After watching a review on it's fuel economy, I realized that it'll utilized the electric motor at highway speeds! Prior versions of Toyota's hybrid system only worked around 45mph and under. That's wild!
I’m keeping my 19’ 1794 till the wheels fall off!! … you can’t possibly tell me that all this new technology is going to stand the test of time and durability. And most importantly longevity.
You're right, the hybrid is not the answer but battery electric is. When the 400-500mi Tundra electric Tundra appears, thats the one to get for lonegvity.
I'm not first but Hi AMD! Happy Saturday! May the Lord keep and bless you and your family as well! And happy Toyota-ing!
Thanks very much for the golden information for real ..that what I was looking for.
End of last video about Toyota hybrids: Toyota does not change things that work! Start of next video about Toyota Hybrids: Toyota have changed everything!
Watched the whole video, feels like I'm back in college learning in class. Great video !!
I mean, the TFL tests of the new iForce Max have it at 13 mpg while towing. That’s about what my 5.7 gets empty.
If I didn’t already have a 2021 Tundra I’d consider it, but I don’t really see a reason to upgrade. Supposedly the ride is much better with the coils and the lower rear pinion makes for a quieter highway ride.
I just love the sound of Beast mode when i uncork the 5.7. And it’s a proven million mile motor.
The million mile is the 4.7L.
2023 Volvo trucks (tracktors, 18 wheelers or whatever you call them there) in Europe can pull 13T of payload with 10-11mpg. 13mpg does not sound that impressive.
That’s just it…it’s not. :)
Remember though most lorries in Europe are max 80-100 kph or less. Typical loads here are going long stretches on the interstate highway system at 110-120 kph. And maximum weights are 36 metric tonnes, sometimes much more.
I think 2021 was the last year for the 5.7L. I don't know if Toyota has solved the issues with the new 3.4L Turbos yet. It must have cost Toyota a small fortune for all the rebuilds done under warranty.
Taken my 24 hybrid over many mountain passes over 12,000 feet, there’s no lack of desire for power. Barely runs over 2000 rpm’s. 10 speed is wonderful for engine breaking on the way down.
It helps that gas is still relatively inexpensive in Colorado.
I was about to ask about the starter and you mentioned it. Now that's so different from the Camry I build in Georgetown. I am on the engine line and we put a plate on in place of the starter. That is awesome they did that on the tundra.. Makes so much sense.
Hi Tony. I used to live in Georgetown. Enjoy some Red State BBQ for me.
This truck is amazing! Almost as good as the Ford F-150 Hybrid.
It will be interesting to see how the transmission holds up over the years under these frequent changes
transmission wouldn't know the difference, cause power always comes through the electric motor. Even if you took out the engine and replaced the space with batteries, transmission wouldn't know... :D
I've got a 2023 Yaris Cross AWD Hybrid and am currently getting 3.4 litres per 100km and sometimes as low as 3.3 litres/100km (over 70mpg) in a mixture of peak hour urban traffic and motorway traffic and using the standard/normal driving mode. If I need a sudden burst of power and put my foot down, this care is almost frighteningly fast. It's well appointed and a seriously good car.
new 2025 Camry 3.8L/100kms so far in 50/50 highway and suburban driving
@@jamesdarcy3902 That’s pretty good for a car that size. A few weeks ago I drove from Cronulla to artarmon and back on 2.9L/100k. The terrain was perfect for regen and cruising on battery power. It would have been 2.8 but I live at the top of a hill and the motor kicked in and spoiled the party. These cars are amazing!
Great design but so many parts to replace if any of those parts fails plus it makes it super complicated. Simplicity has been thrown to the wayside. Let’s make it complex and expensive to repair when it breaks down.
Great explanation for dummies like me. Such brilliant system that barely helps with the gas efficiency. I was disappointed about that but now I understand it better. Thank you!
Big Toyota (and Hybrid) fan!
Infrastructure for charging vehicles still not in place yet.
Now this was the in depth analysis I was looking for!
From my "frame of reference" -- a '77 FJ-40 -- hybrid vehicles TOTALLY violate the KISS rule. That said, I am learning enough about hybrids via your videos that I will likely stick She Who Owns Me into a RAV4 Hybrid two years from now. I will continue to do the gasoline engine oil changes but for everything else, She will have to throw money at the stealership.
Arguably the transmission the rav4's hybrid system replaces is way more complicated, at least mechanically. Most of what you're likely to be needing is going to be normal car maintenance other than maybe a hybrid battery way down the road
I guess that 1977 FJ-40 has no electronics and the old points and condenser ignition unless upgraded. It should be immune from EMP attack.
I think we have all come to expect the honest truth from you my friend, and we thank you for it. God bless you and yours.
Now this leaves me wonder what the new 4runner / Prado is going to run on. For tundra, 5600 lbs +- is way out of regular HSD's category, so probably that's why they chose this "mild" hybrid system. The heaviest vehicle that a regular HSD drives is LS500h, which is around 5000 lbs. Interestingly though, as much as HSD seems to work much more efficiently than this mild hybrid system, the city MPG of a LS500h is not wildly better than a hybrid Tundra. I hope next gen 4runner can learn from these current heavy duty hybrid systems and improve on them.
Super-complex topic discussed cutely..!
Congratulations !! 👏👏👍👍
I’d love to see you do a direct comparison to the F150 hybrid!!
Excellent video as always, but I'm glad I have a "simple" 3rd Gen Tacoma with a manual transmission. We also have a Rav4 prime. The hybrid drive train on the Rav4 seems to be far less of a kludge of automatic transmission, clutches, radiators, pumps, and electrical "glue" work. Granted the Rav4 prime has a bit of a complicated cooling/AC system, but the Tundra Hybrid drive train seems to take the complexity and single points of failure to a whole new level.
I am a big fan of the 3rd generation manual Tacoma and have driven several. Does yours have the 2.7 or 4.0? Time will tell if new tech proves to be as reliable.
Congratulations on so many subscribers in what I think is record time for a car channel! And thanks for your excellent videos!
I know it *just* came out, but can you explain what changed in the 5th generation hybrid used in the 2023 Prius? And *why* wouldn't they use this new more efficient system in the Lexus RX? My only thought (with zero technical information) is that perhaps the 5th gen hybrid system is for small, lighter weight vehicles only.
Thats a nice truck! oh ! I just did my first DIY job on my 06 Camry! I replaced the starter, then realized I just had a bad battery! But now she starts like new!
I'd planned on buying this truck with the hybrid system until I found out about the overall MPG. Sales of this hybrid truck I believe will not be what Toyota had hoped for especially with the price difference between the non-hybrid and hybrid truck. Toyota will miss out on potential buyers when they decided to ramp up the power over MPG for this hybrid system.
Most in depth review on this new system. Still waiting for a 23 Sequoia
Toyota really screwed up the iforce max hybrid power train. Given that A. it took 15 years to make a hybrid truck and that B. Toyotas the master of hybrids, it doesn’t even manage to be more efficient than the f150 hybrid. Toyota really failed badly with this
Their regular hybrids though are great
Thank you for explaining the system in simple terms.
I'd rather have a bigger engine combined with a hybrid system optimized for efficiency not a smaller engine with a hybrid system meant for power.
Well u cant have that options in modern period vehicle tho
@@amandeepbaa6978 It's possible. It's just that Toyota wouldn't develop a bigger engine solely for a hybrid.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 well they will not do it anyway tho since their v8 is infamous for being ancient and truly gas guzzler which all emissions norms and epa restrict them. But don't know hydro powered v8 maybe will get flopp
Previously lexus used to have a 5.0L v8 hybrid in the ls600hL
Exactly the video I was searching for. Take my sub.
It's so sad that the RWD hybrid systems with the naturally aspirated engines are basically gone. The LS 500h is superior to the LS 500. Imagine that hybrid in a modern GS. Oh well, it's all going downhill.
The ls500h is a joke. First off the up charge is much much higher than ever before. Previously it used to be a few K but now it’s $30K extra to get the hyhrid
Agreed. Soon it’ll be Rest In Peace Toyota
You can thank the government for that
It's called a GS450h, I have one, it's awesome. Now out of production.
@@naveenthemachine I had to go to the Lexus website to check. You are right on stuff but it just sounds so outlandish I had to see for myself and OH MY GOD WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!? This is not the LS 600h why is it so much more expensive? Do they want to sell zero vehicles? The hybrid is great because it's just as fast as the V35A and saves a ton of fuel but nobody in their right mind thinks that's the top powertrain worthy of paying 30k to get it. Toyota/Lexus what are you doing 😭
Thanks a lot for the very detailed explanation, like always honest and very informative💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
No no no to much stuff going on that's a dame shame too I miss the old 5.7l v8
Excellent video and explanation. I always enjoy watching your channel! Well done! And thank you!
Tundra hybrid gets the same fuel economy as V6 Tundra.Why bother with hybrid?
City driving
It gets 2MPG more in the city. It takes you 10 years to recover your money that you paid for that hybrid system.
Power and torque.
Fantastic video!🏆✅
Even after this video, I’m still not sure if the hybrid is worth an extra $3500.
That's because it's not. 😂
Get the NA
You just have more power with a hybrid.. No increase in gas mileage and a lot more headaches if it ever messes up and more maintenance.. I don't see what good it is.
Bought one last week it’s great 👍
Impeccable review as usual. Very well explained. Thank you and keep up the good work AMD! 😊👍👍✌️
Love your channel man.
Great, great review. Thank you
This series was exemplary!🤌🤌🤌