You actually made a mistake. The stats are the same if you pickle between drying and smoking. I tested this. I used a plain fish and a dried fish. The pickling result is the same. That’s because pickling takes the category of the food into account, not the food itself. So do NOT pickle your dried foods. It’s a waste of ingredients.
And important to note that for fermenting and pickling is just the ingredient type and seasoning type the effects have little to do with the pickled effects
Pickling or smoking you never wanna do both, also there's food item for 60 food that gives you 60 health 5 percent defense gains for over 30 defense which is way better than anything else and then the smaller version is 40 food for 30 health 3 percent defense doubling your health with 2 foods and giving you extra 50 defense basically giving you an extra price of armor making even the strongest volitile require 4 hits to kill you, pair this with 2 talismans for 20 plus increased healing and maul that doesn't allow you to be staggered with rapid halt full kemono stat with every shockwave stat increase, you have a build that topples and knocks unconscious everything and can't be killed god build that may not do the most DPS but allows for the fastest kills seeing as after 3 hits you always knock kemono out, paired with triangle spring board slams once out for massive DPS hits of 1400 on unconscious volatiles every time you hit which can be spammed up to 5 times each time it's knocked out but normally 4 times meaning you can kill volatiles like there beginning game difficulty, because once you learn how to do this you knock kemono back out before they even can stand back up, it's basic cheat mode.
I think it's mostly a choice between dry-smoke and pickle-smoke, pickling seems to produce generic foods as the combination of food type (fish meat veg rice) and seasoning used, doesn't matter if it's dried or not, and doesn't matter what specific ingredient it is, so pickling dried food seems like a waste. Smoking also produces generic stuff if you smoke raw ingredients instead of dried/pickled ones.
Yeah there is bad information in this video, it feels rushed or something. Dried food in to Pickling is a big waste of food, also they ignore grains. The note about the fox is a good tip though.
Ferment fish, get meat, put fish paste and meat into the jar, get soy meat for damage and stamina. Gulp down some eggplant to finish off. Works very good for me. But just stacking stamina effects might be the biggest damage buff for some weapons.
From what I found pickling is just for raw ingredients, putting a dried versus fresh ingredient yield the same result unless I have been missing something but I am looking at it right now and there is no change
@@lronjack my happy medium is Ferment fish (fish paste) Dry then smoke sliced meat pickle then smoke meat (fish paste) 45 + 55 food gauge. +27 hp, 11% attack, 7% less stamina drain. Healthy alternative is pickle meat with vinegar or monkey liquor (vegatable ferment or monkey pet) Smoked version is 20 food, 8 hp, 2% attack, 1% crit. Since its 20 food, 5x the values for +40hp, 10% attack, 5% crit
Ive seen people complain its too intensive to gather materials but I think a lot of people havent unlocked the food shrine. Makes the process wayyyy easier
A couple of comments on this. First, there are FOUR types of food, not three (fish, meat, vegetables, and grains). Second, do not pickle your dried foods. I tested this using the same fish, one dried and one not dried. Pickling them gives you the exact same result, no matter which you use. So either dry or pickle your foods, not both.
For the best item farm in the forest set a camp up in the obsidian mine. Monsters don't go there in my experience. You can setup the food shrines in there and then it's a short run to the town for the river where I currently have 4 of the wheels farming me fish.
Great video! Sadly I think you didn't go into enough detail about the food or even the crazy things you can do with food. Like if you dry two different food together you get a generic version of that food group. It is such a big thing in Wild Hearts to cover as a whole.
I was working on a list of like all the foods and which ones help with which bosses. But it is taking so long due to the number of combinations. Thanks for covering the game so much.
Here's one. Fish paste+fish= soy fish. Smoke it. Fish paste+meat=soy meat. Smoke it. Sounds stupid but those seem to be the best foods I've found for experimenting.
I'm really glad about your videos on this stuff. Since I mainly play on my Steamdeck, this is the only way to really get to see and know the game. The game is looking cooler the more I see it.
What settings do you use to get it to run smoothly on the Deck? I have it all low and get frequent crashes, but my Deck is stock SteamOS so if you're running it with Windows then that might be all that's needed to get it working.
@@Ryvaeus Oh I was saying that since I play on the Deck I don't get to play this game at all. BTW I've played the beginning on Xbox Series S and 15 FPS is a good day. This game is poorly optimized for anything but the flagship game systems of this generation from what I'm hearing. Maybe they will get it to work on the Deck but they need to make that choice.
@@arsonal3 gotcha, I misunderstood so thanks for clarifying. Better optimization would be nice, I'm able to play it on my desktop which has a 5900x and Arc A770 LE but only at low settings and 1080p.
Good video but they are wrong in a big way wasting time and food because you should only do either drying OR pickling before you smoke the food. Whether you use dry or raw ingredients when you pickle something, you still produce the same ingredient afterwards so incense you would be wasteing all the ingredients it took to dry it just to turn it into a "spicy" version by useing alot of "dry" instead of just the raw you had to use to make the dry ingredients
Definitely not the best food, 40 health, 5 percent defense for 60 pointsof food after drying then smoking, and other 40 food points is smaller version 30 health 3 defense or if farming use springtail gecko for acquisition art for 40, your basically doubling your health, while gaining 8 percent of your defense in the end game being over 30 more points of defense, youll never be 1 2 3 or 4 shot again giving you time to stand against even volitile kemono and trade hits espically if using maul with skill keeping you from being staggered Also this video says dry smoke pickle, as most comments point out never pickle and smoke either do one or other, videos got good info but makes bad claims on what's best, the best foods do come from using pens however combining pens with fish paste is way to come up with best food
Drying doesnt give more Bang for your buck at all actually.. If they are just dried, they exactly double the stats given for exactly double the cost on the food bar. in fact, if you really want the most Bang for your buck, Ignore drying entirely and use Non-dried food and pickle them etc. as it adds a flat amount to the cost, and if your food is already cheap, you can use more of it, actually getting more stats off of it than if you had dried it beforehand.
It's not double cost its around 50% more cost. You do get some value just not as a straight double. You're right about not using dried food in the pickling though, that just wastes food.
@@mikes9767 hm.. well its different based on food then.. cause for Eggplants it doubles the cost, goes from 10 to 20 and it doubles the stats you get from it as well, so its not worth it.
Careful using Minato as your storage location. SPOILER: A giant kemono does attack there and can destroy your storage boxes and anything else placed there. And yes, if destroyed you will lose everything in there.
I have a problem with their food system. If you’re doing multi player coop as a guest, you don’t have access to your own storage and cooking facilities. if a host used the drying rack, the guest will also see it as used, so you can’t both use the facilities at the same time. So as a guest, you will lose out on time for resource / food farming … haven’t tested if shrine is also a one way. tecmo should at least make the shrines / food processor to be accessible for both guest and host. As a guest, you will just keep on consuming your food without renewing them. Finally, who the hell smokes pickled food? 😂
I think having only 20 inventory slots for ingredients was the dumbest decisions This game could’ve made, it is so frustrating trying to pick something up and seeing my inventory is full, such a step back and they’re trying to compete with monster Hunter where you can carry so many different items. Ive done 3 carpenter upgrades and my inventory is still the same lol.
yeaaa, at the very least have a special chest in minato that is infinite storage. If you pick something up but your inv. is full it'd just go there. Preferably make it so you can use ingredients from that chest in the drying racks, picklers, etc so long as they are also placed in minato. Of course that chest and access to it is minato only so if you want ingredients to be used for foods in a map, have a chest there and so on, but at least have SOMEWHERE to put it besides the limited resource chests.
Nah... After seeing the garbage paid DLC in Rise/Sunbreak, having micro transaction in WILD HEARTS won't bother, beside if you're going to be worried about micro transaction, worry about MONSTER HUNTER 6 because Capcom is already becoming the next EA, the only thing Rise is missing right now is Paid DLC MONSTERS which will eventually come.
One note to add, if you're happy with the stats on the food you can ignore pickling entirely and just dry and smoke it!
You actually made a mistake. The stats are the same if you pickle between drying and smoking.
I tested this. I used a plain fish and a dried fish. The pickling result is the same. That’s because pickling takes the category of the food into account, not the food itself.
So do NOT pickle your dried foods. It’s a waste of ingredients.
And important to note that for fermenting and pickling is just the ingredient type and seasoning type the effects have little to do with the pickled effects
@@phoenixneo1630exactly!
Pickling or smoking you never wanna do both, also there's food item for 60 food that gives you 60 health 5 percent defense gains for over 30 defense which is way better than anything else and then the smaller version is 40 food for 30 health 3 percent defense doubling your health with 2 foods and giving you extra 50 defense basically giving you an extra price of armor making even the strongest volitile require 4 hits to kill you, pair this with 2 talismans for 20 plus increased healing and maul that doesn't allow you to be staggered with rapid halt full kemono stat with every shockwave stat increase, you have a build that topples and knocks unconscious everything and can't be killed god build that may not do the most DPS but allows for the fastest kills seeing as after 3 hits you always knock kemono out, paired with triangle spring board slams once out for massive DPS hits of 1400 on unconscious volatiles every time you hit which can be spammed up to 5 times each time it's knocked out but normally 4 times meaning you can kill volatiles like there beginning game difficulty, because once you learn how to do this you knock kemono back out before they even can stand back up, it's basic cheat mode.
I think it's mostly a choice between dry-smoke and pickle-smoke, pickling seems to produce generic foods as the combination of food type (fish meat veg rice) and seasoning used, doesn't matter if it's dried or not, and doesn't matter what specific ingredient it is, so pickling dried food seems like a waste. Smoking also produces generic stuff if you smoke raw ingredients instead of dried/pickled ones.
Yeah there is bad information in this video, it feels rushed or something. Dried food in to Pickling is a big waste of food, also they ignore grains. The note about the fox is a good tip though.
Ferment fish, get meat, put fish paste and meat into the jar, get soy meat for damage and stamina. Gulp down some eggplant to finish off. Works very good for me. But just stacking stamina effects might be the biggest damage buff for some weapons.
For the umbrella it's great since our best damage moves needs stamina. Having a full bar basically guaranteed due to fatigue alleviation is so good
From what I found pickling is just for raw ingredients, putting a dried versus fresh ingredient yield the same result unless I have been missing something but I am looking at it right now and there is no change
Same! No need to dry then pickle. Go straight to pickling. I don’t have a smoker yet.
Thankfully someone release a video about it a few hours ago 🙏🏽
Yeah, putting dried meat into pickling is a waste of resources.
I tend to just dry meat and use it as is
@@lronjack my happy medium is
Ferment fish (fish paste)
Dry then smoke sliced meat
pickle then smoke meat (fish paste)
45 + 55 food gauge. +27 hp, 11% attack, 7% less stamina drain.
Healthy alternative is pickle meat with vinegar or monkey liquor (vegatable ferment or monkey pet)
Smoked version is 20 food, 8 hp, 2% attack, 1% crit. Since its 20 food, 5x the values for +40hp, 10% attack, 5% crit
@Arik Crocker I'm gonna prob stick with this since I have so much damn fish. Wish there was a kakakuri for gathering meat...
i really like this food system over the monster hunter version. it feels more deliberate and rewarding, albeit much more complicated and a process.
Ive seen people complain its too intensive to gather materials but I think a lot of people havent unlocked the food shrine. Makes the process wayyyy easier
@@TheOrangesoda68 Yes, the sla-I mean friends give you ingredients over time makes things less of a hassle to do.
@@TheOrangesoda68 would be nice if there was a shrine that collects meat
it is definitely better, older mh had stuff sort of like this, but nothing this good
This series has a solid foundation and I’m here for it!
such a good hunting game. shame the performance issues give it a bad rep which might deter others
Consoles it's been perfectly fine for me and others I play with and quite a few pc players I play with having no issues after a few tweaks with stuff
A couple of comments on this. First, there are FOUR types of food, not three (fish, meat, vegetables, and grains). Second, do not pickle your dried foods. I tested this using the same fish, one dried and one not dried. Pickling them gives you the exact same result, no matter which you use. So either dry or pickle your foods, not both.
Totally agree
You can smoked pickled/dried food for extra benefits.
@@ringring8938 I know that. But they implied that you pickle your dried foods before smoking them.
Either pickle OR dry before smoking, not both
Absolutely right. Kinda sad that this was sponsored by EA and tells some things that are not true…
For the best item farm in the forest set a camp up in the obsidian mine. Monsters don't go there in my experience. You can setup the food shrines in there and then it's a short run to the town for the river where I currently have 4 of the wheels farming me fish.
Bro you are covering TF outta this game man, thank you for the work you're putting in 🙏😞
If you prefer to save resources its fine to skip pickling and dry into smoking for buffs pretty much just as good
Maybe I'm dumb, but I don't see any more benefits of drying then pickling. It's the same stats as pickling something raw.
Great video! Sadly I think you didn't go into enough detail about the food or even the crazy things you can do with food. Like if you dry two different food together you get a generic version of that food group. It is such a big thing in Wild Hearts to cover as a whole.
Never remember to eat in monster hunter so not a chance I'd be doing it for this game
I was working on a list of like all the foods and which ones help with which bosses. But it is taking so long due to the number of combinations. Thanks for covering the game so much.
So happy with this, but agreed it'll be cool if once we find a recipe we could have it cataloged.
Here's one. Fish paste+fish= soy fish. Smoke it.
Fish paste+meat=soy meat. Smoke it.
Sounds stupid but those seem to be the best foods I've found for experimenting.
I was waiting for this 😋
I'm really glad about your videos on this stuff. Since I mainly play on my Steamdeck, this is the only way to really get to see and know the game. The game is looking cooler the more I see it.
What settings do you use to get it to run smoothly on the Deck? I have it all low and get frequent crashes, but my Deck is stock SteamOS so if you're running it with Windows then that might be all that's needed to get it working.
@@Ryvaeus Oh I was saying that since I play on the Deck I don't get to play this game at all. BTW I've played the beginning on Xbox Series S and 15 FPS is a good day. This game is poorly optimized for anything but the flagship game systems of this generation from what I'm hearing. Maybe they will get it to work on the Deck but they need to make that choice.
@@arsonal3 gotcha, I misunderstood so thanks for clarifying. Better optimization would be nice, I'm able to play it on my desktop which has a 5900x and Arc A770 LE but only at low settings and 1080p.
thanks for the info very imformative!
Buy brown sugar when ever you see it. Sweetened foods have huge stats.
Gotta say, ur vids are g.damn informative... Thx.
Love your videos brother!!!
I should be more specific "Don't Pickle Your Meat"
Good video but they are wrong in a big way wasting time and food because you should only do either drying OR pickling before you smoke the food. Whether you use dry or raw ingredients when you pickle something, you still produce the same ingredient afterwards so incense you would be wasteing all the ingredients it took to dry it just to turn it into a "spicy" version by useing alot of "dry" instead of just the raw you had to use to make the dry ingredients
does the shrine and beast keeper still progressing when we change map ?
that beep at 0:20 hurt so bad bro why you gotta do that
I gave up hunting towers and other resources and know the 1st area is just a massive fish farm
Bruh, I was entirely ignoring this mechanic lmaoo
I was worried I had the wrong site up❤
Definitely not the best food, 40 health, 5 percent defense for 60 pointsof food after drying then smoking, and other 40 food points is smaller version 30 health 3 defense or if farming use springtail gecko for acquisition art for 40, your basically doubling your health, while gaining 8 percent of your defense in the end game being over 30 more points of defense, youll never be 1 2 3 or 4 shot again giving you time to stand against even volitile kemono and trade hits espically if using maul with skill keeping you from being staggered
Also this video says dry smoke pickle, as most comments point out never pickle and smoke either do one or other, videos got good info but makes bad claims on what's best, the best foods do come from using pens however combining pens with fish paste is way to come up with best food
how do i catch the fox ?
Drying doesnt give more Bang for your buck at all actually.. If they are just dried, they exactly double the stats given for exactly double the cost on the food bar. in fact, if you really want the most Bang for your buck, Ignore drying entirely and use Non-dried food and pickle them etc. as it adds a flat amount to the cost, and if your food is already cheap, you can use more of it, actually getting more stats off of it than if you had dried it beforehand.
It's not double cost its around 50% more cost. You do get some value just not as a straight double. You're right about not using dried food in the pickling though, that just wastes food.
@@mikes9767 hm.. well its different based on food then.. cause for Eggplants it doubles the cost, goes from 10 to 20 and it doubles the stats you get from it as well, so its not worth it.
Can we move and arrange what placed down already?
Yes, you can destroy your dragon karakuri, materials will be refunded so you can replace or experiment with no consequence
Wait.. how do you kill a creature and immediately jump into carving without press and hold L2 button?
Crouch behind a creature and you should be given a prompt to pet or slay, Slaying kills the creature instantly and automatically carves it
Pickle RAGE!
How the f do u even eat food? I don’t have an ear option
Okay can someone remind me how to make miso paste?
grain in fermenting cask
Too tedious, completed the game without any of that cooking stuff.
how do you unlock the Wildlife Pen?
Its all in the karakuri upgrade tree
If you havent gotten it yet, you just gotta progress down the tree a bit and it’ll be there
I think that one is locked behind a specific hunt, or at least the better version is. I cannot recall which one it is at the moment though.
Careful using Minato as your storage location.
SPOILER:
A giant kemono does attack there and can destroy your storage boxes and anything else placed there. And yes, if destroyed you will lose everything in there.
That was a bug and got patched in the most recent patch.
Monster Hunter with Atelier alchemy for food... 😂
Yea skip Pickering just dry an smoke
Are the storage containers shared or does each 1 have its own items inside it that I place
Each container is separate
Ffs josh just say what the best food is lol
Huge tip for meat eaters: Just buy it from the vendor in Minato, check her after each hunt, it's how I get my Meat, sometimes it's even prepped too
I have a problem with their food system. If you’re doing multi player coop as a guest, you don’t have access to your own storage and cooking facilities. if a host used the drying rack, the guest will also see it as used, so you can’t both use the facilities at the same time. So as a guest, you will lose out on time for resource / food farming … haven’t tested if shrine is also a one way. tecmo should at least make the shrines / food processor to be accessible for both guest and host. As a guest, you will just keep on consuming your food without renewing them. Finally, who the hell smokes pickled food? 😂
I think having only 20 inventory slots for ingredients was the dumbest decisions This game could’ve made, it is so frustrating trying to pick something up and seeing my inventory is full, such a step back and they’re trying to compete with monster Hunter where you can carry so many different items. Ive done 3 carpenter upgrades and my inventory is still the same lol.
Wierd the Carpentry is supposed to buff total slots and stack count
yeaaa, at the very least have a special chest in minato that is infinite storage. If you pick something up but your inv. is full it'd just go there. Preferably make it so you can use ingredients from that chest in the drying racks, picklers, etc so long as they are also placed in minato. Of course that chest and access to it is minato only so if you want ingredients to be used for foods in a map, have a chest there and so on, but at least have SOMEWHERE to put it besides the limited resource chests.
It literally gets upgraded as you progress through the game, and there are storage containers.
20 is far more than you can hold in MH, you silly noob
@@AllanEnraged wtf r u talking about? I said I have upgraded the shit 3 times and no storage has been upgraded. Must be a bug
@@Haz3Nation it upgrades how much of each thing you can hold, not the number of slots
Josh? 🤨📸
Still enjoying this game, but this food system sucks imo 😅
Waiting for the micro transactions dlc to speed this process up
Nah... After seeing the garbage paid DLC in Rise/Sunbreak, having micro transaction in WILD HEARTS won't bother, beside if you're going to be worried about micro transaction, worry about MONSTER HUNTER 6 because Capcom is already becoming the next EA, the only thing Rise is missing right now is Paid DLC MONSTERS which will eventually come.
13 mins of basic info you learn by just playing the game 😢