At 16:22 the description of Gates is amazing, especially considering that He was "remembered for making us aware of the danger of over-reliance on military intervention as an instrument of American foreign policy," when he retired in 2011.
It's a shame that Bush the First didn't impart the lesson to his son on not invading and occupying Iraq. All of the worst people from Bush the First administration held positions of power during the tenure of Bush the Second. We saw the disaster that ensued.
George Bush (jr) actually learned from his dad. The atrocities of Saddam's regime in Iraq increased tremendously after this storyline because he assumed Iraq will never be invaded. The discoveries of the event during this crisis and the confessions of Saddam's sons in law while in Jordan (1995) were some of the reasons for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. As usual they were also interested in other things (e.g. oil)
Schwarzkopf like "who called me McClellan!?" is perhaps one of the funniest images I've had in awhile. Hope he made Gates buy him a drink after the war, lmao
My dad was a part of both wars against Iraq, this series has been super enlightening on why he went, something I never quite understood as a kid. Thank you!
I love this channel because it delves into the very important but little known (to the wider population) challenges of Foreign Policy and International Politics. Trying to form a coalition is a difficult task… especially one that is comprised of many different Middle Eastern nations and governments. Everyone has their own stake in these things, and you have to haggle with them over their participation with things you really don’t want to do. The Iran Contra affair is a great example, or in this case the State visit to China being used to placate the Chinese into supporting the UN resolution. The whole Israel-Arab relations angle to the Gulf War was in my opinion one of the more difficult aspects… especially when Iraq had started firing rockets on Tel Aviv. Israeli participation in a war against Iraq would most likely have split the coalition at a really critical time. So needing the Israelis to back down after their own people had been killed and or wounded in missile strikes is no easy feat. Also… Schwarzkopf being Schwarzkopf. Absolute legend.
Maybe it's just my viewing angle, but you've really gotten into shape since I first started watching your videos, great job! I'm trying to nail down that kind of discipline lol.
yea so the people thought they were the only ones to know where it is even though every muslim is supposed to visit lol....i believe indonesia has the most muslims which i also find weird lol
The usa military when they didn't got to use their equipment from the Reagan era build up due to the cold war ending when a random middle eastern country is invaded:
Because Bush Jr was a complete idiot and the chicken hawks in the administration ( who never served a day in their lives) thought it would be a cake walk so they could get their filthy hands on Iraq's oil. The FACT is that all of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis from Saudi Arabia. Why didn't we attack them? Oh, yeah, they are our "allies". What a joke the whole thing was and the world hasn't been the same since.
@@RK-cj4oc the two conflicts are pretty much intrinsically linked, plus the public isn’t exactly too happy about Gulf War syndrome and the other consequences of this conflict
The US thought that it could bully the world. But then it realised that poeple fight back. The Americans lost thousands in Iraq and got kicked out of Afghanistan.
I was in college at the time and at the time I was in favor of the war. I was pretty much apolitical in college but this was one of the issues that pushed me to the right when I saw the type of people protesting it and their reasons. In light of everything that has happened since, I have to wonder if I would still be in favor of it. Watching this and all the shenanigans that Bush and Thatcher went through to put the coalition together, I have to think "why are we doing this? Just get out of Saudi and let them deal with it." I am sure I had some young male jingoism at the time. I wasn't the only one. I knew some people in the reserves and about half were afraid they were going to miss out on the war and about half were concerned because they only joined to pay for college and were only expecting to fight the Soviets.
What is the benefit of this talk? You have been deceived by the pretext that by participating in the war, you can pay university fees, but we are losing our lives. Does this make sense?
I'm of the mind that war should be avoided if at all possible. However, I do also think there are times when fighting (particularly in defense of those who cannot defend themselves) is the right option. Regardless, I can only imagine how terrible a burden it must be to be the one having to decide whether or not to send scores of people to their deaths. Thank you for another interesting chapter in this series on the Gulf War. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
The US literally told the guy that a war between middle eastern states was of no concern to them when the guy asked for permission to go after Kuwait. Reagan had one meeting with Thatcher and came out of it ranting about needing to take Saddam down, ending with the disgusting war crime the US did on that road out of Kuwait that Americans still celebrate like it's something normal to do. There's a reason the US is- if not hated- deeply disliked across most of the planet, and it's because of shit like this and the revisionism that follows.
Literally none of what you're saying is true. You can watch the previous episodes to see why. Not only do all the US sources refute this claim, but the Iraqi sources do as well. What April Glaspie said was the United States didn't take sides inter-Arab border disputes, but that the US was concerned with Saddam's hostile rhetoric, and buildup of troops along the Kuwaiti border.
@@CasualHistorian thanks, but I'll take my info from actual historians, not a guy on TH-cam. The sudden flip in Washington's stance is well documented- the alternative is to assume Saddam was off his rocker going ahead with a war he didn't believe was sanctioned by the West. As I said, more revisionism to make the US continually look like a well meaning actor instead of the self interested machine that its record shows itself to be. They keep creating messes and then up pops folks like you to override actual historical records with this stuff.
@@HighLordBlazeReborn Saddam already proved himself a moron with the blunder of a war against Iran. He is the same character as Mussolini and Castro. Thuggish bullies who think they are great men because they have silenced everyone around them from saying anything different. He invaded Kuwait. And then what? Are we to believe he would simply stop? Are you really that naive? Or do you think that the world would be a better place if a genocidal dictator controlled the absolute vast majority of the oil on the Eurasian continent?
like what i said last video osama is related to the saudi monarchy and he will assembled a holy army to defend saudi it ended osama exiled and america came in to defend saudi against saddam after this osama bin laden in exile is meeting hearing radical Muslims the rest is history
The last time a multi national christian army showed up in the middle east it didnt go well. The time before that it did not go well. Try to guess the time period. Its irrelevant though because based on this you should know that any Christian symbolism carried by an army is a no no in the middle east for legitimate historical reasons and should be respected.
I mean that land was taken by a warlord that came out of arabia and conquered lands that were historically christion/jewish lands so in context of the times it seems fair game
The only reason the UN went along with us was because we volunteered beforehand to lead the kinetic effort against him. The UN,contrary to right wing conspiracy theories,doesn’t have its own military,they get nations to put up the troops and do the work on behalf of whatever the council decides. If HW Bush hadn’t already been on Saddams doorstep with the full might of the US military and expressed a desire to intervene beforehand,the UN would’ve just sanctioned Iraq and issued a scolding to Saddam. Nobody wanted to sign the resolution if it meant they’d have to pony up troops and invade Kuwait to kick Iraq out. France,UK,Germany,you name it,none wanted to be the leader of that particular coalition and devote the most soldiers.
It's not right a small oligarchy set up by the British Empire for them to have easy access to oil to control all of that oil supply to the detriment of democracy and equality of the people in the region.
The British didn't set up an oil oligarchy. The Kuwaiti monarchy predates British involvement in the region, and in the 19th the Sheik of Kuwait signed a treaty with the British to secure themselves against the Ottomans.
@@CasualHistorian Thanks for checking me with the clarification that I was wrong. I guess it's up to the Kuwaiti people, being Norwegian it would be hypocritical of me to claim Kuwait as an historical indepedent polity should not control that oil then.
I really like the content, especially this series.
Gotta step up to support good content creators wherever possible.
Cheers!
Thanks!
At 16:22 the description of Gates is amazing, especially considering that He was "remembered for making us aware of the danger of over-reliance on military intervention as an instrument of American foreign policy," when he retired in 2011.
It's a shame that Bush the First didn't impart the lesson to his son on not invading and occupying Iraq. All of the worst people from Bush the First administration held positions of power during the tenure of Bush the Second. We saw the disaster that ensued.
As an Iraqi I like the second Bush because he freed us from Saddam instead of starving us to death like what his father did.
George Bush (jr) actually learned from his dad. The atrocities of Saddam's regime in Iraq increased tremendously after this storyline because he assumed Iraq will never be invaded. The discoveries of the event during this crisis and the confessions of Saddam's sons in law while in Jordan (1995) were some of the reasons for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. As usual they were also interested in other things (e.g. oil)
As a Canadian, that "JJ (not that one)", gave me a chuckle. Love your stuff.
Schwarzkopf like "who called me McClellan!?" is perhaps one of the funniest images I've had in awhile. Hope he made Gates buy him a drink after the war, lmao
I remember being a kid watching the news. For days it was the Marines are heading to the badass Republican Guard. The Republican Guard got stomped.
So crazy, I just heard my name during Doc and was 😳 then realized what it was! TY 🙏🏼
Can’t wait to find out how it ends, this “sad dam” guy seems like a real underdog I’m sure he won’t choke on the results of his actions in the end
My dad was a part of both wars against Iraq, this series has been super enlightening on why he went, something I never quite understood as a kid. Thank you!
I love this channel because it delves into the very important but little known (to the wider population) challenges of Foreign Policy and International Politics.
Trying to form a coalition is a difficult task… especially one that is comprised of many different Middle Eastern nations and governments.
Everyone has their own stake in these things, and you have to haggle with them over their participation with things you really don’t want to do.
The Iran Contra affair is a great example, or in this case the State visit to China being used to placate the Chinese into supporting the UN resolution.
The whole Israel-Arab relations angle to the Gulf War was in my opinion one of the more difficult aspects… especially when Iraq had started firing rockets on Tel Aviv.
Israeli participation in a war against Iraq would most likely have split the coalition at a really critical time.
So needing the Israelis to back down after their own people had been killed and or wounded in missile strikes is no easy feat.
Also… Schwarzkopf being Schwarzkopf.
Absolute legend.
Schwarzkopf’s media briefing is one of my favorite videos to rewatch through the years. That’s a man of character. So smart.
No one in the US military is a "man of character."
@@tedpop What Sally says about Suzy says more about Sally than it does about Suzy, Ted.
@@claudettes9697he/she is right, all of them are a bunch of glorified professional killers and warmongers, not people of any character!!
@@claudettes9697 That sounded witty to you, didn't it?
@@tedpop Not original material.
Great series as always.
You should try to get the Assad regime to support your channel
If he start dealing Captagon, then Assad will surely support him 😂
This series is an excellent summation of this chapter of history.
Maybe it's just my viewing angle, but you've really gotten into shape since I first started watching your videos, great job! I'm trying to nail down that kind of discipline lol.
31:47 never knew that
yea so the people thought they were the only ones to know where it is even though every muslim is supposed to visit lol....i believe indonesia has the most muslims which i also find weird lol
I just watched this video without knowing it was part 3 of a series, now I'm flabbergasted lmao
The usa military when they didn't got to use their equipment from the Reagan era build up due to the cold war ending when a random middle eastern country is invaded:
Saddam: Hey, Mr. Boss. We just invaded Kuwait
Mr. Boss on the phone: You chose the worst time to go. You chose the worst time to go.
So wild that for a brief moment we got a reunified Germany and the USSR and US generally putting the cold war behind them
Why did the US "forget" all this lessons implemented in the 1st gulf war, only 10 years later?
Because Bush Jr was a complete idiot and the chicken hawks in the administration ( who never served a day in their lives) thought it would be a cake walk so they could get their filthy hands on Iraq's oil. The FACT is that all of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis from Saudi Arabia. Why didn't we attack them? Oh, yeah, they are our "allies". What a joke the whole thing was and the world hasn't been the same since.
small hic up at 12:50 repeated it twice, `3:00
Is this going to be the final episode, or will there be one on the Gulf War itself? That ending just makes me hyped for a video on the campaign.
There is one more episode, and it should be coming out in a couple weeks.
@@CasualHistorian Good. I can’t wait to see it!
@@CasualHistorian btw, the channel "TheOperationsRoom" has some dope videos on the military action. Your channels are gold for this topic.
Superb work…it’s an insult to call it “content”…nothin “casual” about it…PhD-level stuff…❤
Always like me a good Doofenshmirtz reference.
Wait so if Medina and Mecca are mandatory pilgrimage places for Muslims why would their locations be classified?
I can't read the minds of the Saudis, so you'll have to settle for my rendition of Schwarzkopf's account.
@@CasualHistorian fair enough
Jimmy Carter always sticks his nose into things
So Israel don't like its neighbors nether Iraqi nor Iran
It would be awesome to see a video about the second congo war
The very people who declared war on Sadam watch as the Kurds were killed by chemical weapons. Then, used it against Sadam during the war.
America’s least favorite war domestically, America’s most favorite war internationally
Not true at all. The 1st Gulf war had no large domestic backlash.
The Iraq war however had the largest protests in history.
@@RK-cj4oc the two conflicts are pretty much intrinsically linked, plus the public isn’t exactly too happy about Gulf War syndrome and the other consequences of this conflict
The US thought that it could bully the world. But then it realised that poeple fight back. The Americans lost thousands in Iraq and got kicked out of Afghanistan.
29:45 the NGOs foolish enough to engage in missionary work in Saudi land are begging for the chopping block
The Saudi bible bit just feels like a parent trying to not step on the toes of a bratty child
I was in college at the time and at the time I was in favor of the war. I was pretty much apolitical in college but this was one of the issues that pushed me to the right when I saw the type of people protesting it and their reasons. In light of everything that has happened since, I have to wonder if I would still be in favor of it. Watching this and all the shenanigans that Bush and Thatcher went through to put the coalition together, I have to think "why are we doing this? Just get out of Saudi and let them deal with it."
I am sure I had some young male jingoism at the time. I wasn't the only one. I knew some people in the reserves and about half were afraid they were going to miss out on the war and about half were concerned because they only joined to pay for college and were only expecting to fight the Soviets.
What is the benefit of this talk? You have been deceived by the pretext that by participating in the war, you can pay university fees, but we are losing our lives. Does this make sense?
16:20 LMAO
I'm of the mind that war should be avoided if at all possible. However, I do also think there are times when fighting (particularly in defense of those who cannot defend themselves) is the right option. Regardless, I can only imagine how terrible a burden it must be to be the one having to decide whether or not to send scores of people to their deaths. Thank you for another interesting chapter in this series on the Gulf War.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Saudi Arabia’s social taboos sound pretty damn BASED to me 😎
lets take the sand out of he desert i wanna see whats under there...im guessing everyones missing socks are there
The US literally told the guy that a war between middle eastern states was of no concern to them when the guy asked for permission to go after Kuwait. Reagan had one meeting with Thatcher and came out of it ranting about needing to take Saddam down, ending with the disgusting war crime the US did on that road out of Kuwait that Americans still celebrate like it's something normal to do.
There's a reason the US is- if not hated- deeply disliked across most of the planet, and it's because of shit like this and the revisionism that follows.
Literally none of what you're saying is true. You can watch the previous episodes to see why. Not only do all the US sources refute this claim, but the Iraqi sources do as well.
What April Glaspie said was the United States didn't take sides inter-Arab border disputes, but that the US was concerned with Saddam's hostile rhetoric, and buildup of troops along the Kuwaiti border.
Kuwait is a artificial British invention anyway
@@CasualHistorian thanks, but I'll take my info from actual historians, not a guy on TH-cam. The sudden flip in Washington's stance is well documented- the alternative is to assume Saddam was off his rocker going ahead with a war he didn't believe was sanctioned by the West. As I said, more revisionism to make the US continually look like a well meaning actor instead of the self interested machine that its record shows itself to be. They keep creating messes and then up pops folks like you to override actual historical records with this stuff.
@@HighLordBlazeReborn Saddam already proved himself a moron with the blunder of a war against Iran. He is the same character as Mussolini and Castro. Thuggish bullies who think they are great men because they have silenced everyone around them from saying anything different.
He invaded Kuwait. And then what? Are we to believe he would simply stop? Are you really that naive? Or do you think that the world would be a better place if a genocidal dictator controlled the absolute vast majority of the oil on the Eurasian continent?
I have his shirt, it’s real comfortable
@26:08 --Israel and the U.S. **were** willing to use nuclear weapons on Iraq. You literally mentioned it earlier in the video. 🙄
No. Cheney might have been willing, but everyone else in the administration was against it from the start.
Jimmy Carter: “I’m gonna go negotiate with Hezbollah…..”
Me: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!
Queen Noor looks like a goddess next to Barbara Bush
Queen Noor was in her early 40s when they met, while Barbara Bush was in her mid 60s. Of course she looks much better.
Jimmy Carter being messy😂😂
Iran be like bruh
At the time there was a lot of talk of how the UN had been "empowered." But that was wishful thinking...
like what i said last video
osama is related to the saudi monarchy
and he will assembled a holy army to defend saudi it ended osama exiled and america came in to defend saudi against saddam
after this osama bin laden in exile is meeting hearing radical Muslims the rest is history
The last time a multi national christian army showed up in the middle east it didnt go well. The time before that it did not go well. Try to guess the time period. Its irrelevant though because based on this you should know that any Christian symbolism carried by an army is a no no in the middle east for legitimate historical reasons and should be respected.
I mean that land was taken by a warlord that came out of arabia and conquered lands that were historically christion/jewish lands so in context of the times it seems fair game
Was Kuwait part of Basra at some point in history? If that's the case than surely Kuwait is part of Iraq?????
But Iraq was part of Iran at some point of history also apart of the ottomans and the British too.
The only reason the UN went along with us was because we volunteered beforehand to lead the kinetic effort against him. The UN,contrary to right wing conspiracy theories,doesn’t have its own military,they get nations to put up the troops and do the work on behalf of whatever the council decides.
If HW Bush hadn’t already been on Saddams doorstep with the full might of the US military and expressed a desire to intervene beforehand,the UN would’ve just sanctioned Iraq and issued a scolding to Saddam. Nobody wanted to sign the resolution if it meant they’d have to pony up troops and invade Kuwait to kick Iraq out. France,UK,Germany,you name it,none wanted to be the leader of that particular coalition and devote the most soldiers.
" right wing conspiracy theories"
Bro. Just keep your mouth shut if you speak such garbage.
Saddams greatest failure was losing.
It's not right a small oligarchy set up by the British Empire for them to have easy access to oil to control all of that oil supply to the detriment of democracy and equality of the people in the region.
The British didn't set up an oil oligarchy. The Kuwaiti monarchy predates British involvement in the region, and in the 19th the Sheik of Kuwait signed a treaty with the British to secure themselves against the Ottomans.
@@CasualHistorian Thanks for checking me with the clarification that I was wrong. I guess it's up to the Kuwaiti people, being Norwegian it would be hypocritical of me to claim Kuwait as an historical indepedent polity should not control that oil then.
@@Zyzyx442what's this? A TH-cam commenter admitting they may have been wrong? Have I fallen into an alternate universe?
@@Zyzyx442bro you're the definition of an open mind 🔥👍
the russians are just funny
Big lie.. How Israel used USA to do the war.. 😂😂😂
WMD lol
how does one know if they are western? if you live in china then north america is east? if you live in nz then everything is north lol