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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840-1893)
SYMPHONY NO. 5 in E minor, Op. 64
Munich Philharmonic Orchestra
SERGIU CELIBIDACHE, cond.
Recording: Die Glocke, Bremen, 10 June 1993
I. Andante - Scherzo. Allegro con anima - Molto più tranquillo (0:00)
II. Andante cantabile, con alcuna licenza (19:38)
III. Valse. Allegro moderato (38:15)
IV. Finale. Andante maestoso (con fiamma) - Non allegro - Presto molto furioso - Mosso assai e molto maestoso - Allegro vivace (45:32)
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rip Maestro! heaven is opened for you....Maestro of truth and freedom! romanian nation much obliged....
Straordinaria atmosfera....maestosa andatura.....Commozione!
Concordo pienamente!
Esta interpretacio'n,creo,que esta' entre las mejores de la N.5.La madurez interpretativa del Maestro Celi esta en su cu'spide. Me emociona !.-
Para algunos excéntrico,para mí SUBLIME.Por siempre Celibidache
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Grande, interpretacio'n y Maestro!!.-
Celibidache magistral
Maestro Celi !!! !!!.-
Tchaikovsky ,One of the greatest composers . The greatest expression of depressive mood BY MUSIC
and what a music ! - NO one did it as he does(even not G. Mahler ) . From the other side he composd
the great ballets , full of optimism and livelihood - what opposites !
danke celi, so wird es auch im himmel zu hören sein.....
He could be the greatest conductor of the XX Century, but he denied himself that title. One understood genius and the genius are crazy most of the time.
Hi is all time and will bi
14,02 Sublime.-
Quien pudiera escucharlo en vivo...
One hour for this symphony it's demanding...but He knows what to do...
2nd movement’s Horn solo: 2 minutes, 34 seconds.
good!
Questa esecuzione è meravigliosamente unica. L'andatura lenta (io la chiamerei Giusta) è estremamente difficile da eseguire. Ogni sezione dell' orchestra viene messa in risalto, distingui le parti e ogni orchestrale diventa solista Il finale della 5 nelle esecuzioni tradizionali, per esempio, spesso ha un effetto bandistico (con tutto rispetto) troppo veloce, troppa confusione Celibidache la rende limpida e maestosa e crea un'atmosfera magica. Da ascoltare in poltrona con tranquillità e mente libera. Non c'è nulla di più bello...
Your observation is spot on.
good
Tchaikovsky and Brahms disliked one another's music. Even so, Brahms hopped a train from Vienna to Berlin to hear the German premiere of this symphony. As expected, he didn't like it: "beautiful themes but not symphonic."
As for Celi's tempi: Like most of his performances, this one is highly idiomatic. You can like it or not; but it's what he meant.
Your story is full of shit. Brahms told Tchaikovsky he liked the work except the final movement. If Brahms said it was not symphonic then he was was full of shit. The 5th follows classical European symphonic form to a tee, with great melodies to boot. Brahms couldn't touch Tchaikovsky when it came to writing a great melody.
@@karllieck9064 me like
I like both composers, but I am more in the Tchaikovsky camp.
That is the most amazing second mvmt I've ever heard of this piece... I was caught off guard. That being said, the first mvmt is too slow in my opinion.
100% agreement
Berstein is not doing faster..
if it were any faster it would be ruined, he believed in organic tension, the tempo depended on the sonority of the hall, but who knows, I personally find it a very boring tempo, but he makes it vivid, fair enough for me.
We are accustomed to faster tempi, partly because of the tempo of modern life, and partly because what record company executives demanded in order that performance times fit within the confines of the media delivery mechanisms (especially during the LP era). Most listeners become conditioned to expect certain aspects of performance to agree with what they were exposed to early on. When I listen to Celibidache's recordings I suspend judgement, especially as regards tempi, as I know how often he is criticized about that aspect of his work. Almost inevitably I find that in his recordings I hear things that are clearer than in many other performances. When I contrast that with how many times I have heard performances in which tempi were rushed and players and sections were playing sloppily. This I find to be unacceptable.
it sounds not the EMI version! Another celibidache recording!
Tchaikovsky convertido en Bruckner
I'm on board with Celibidache's tempi. The work of some other conductors can also be enjoyable. It's obvious that his tempi are often slower, but I do not find that boring or "wrong." With Celibidache I always hear new aspects of a score, things I have never realized before, even after 65 years of listening to recordings and attending concerts from Chicago to Berlin to Moscow. I am annoyed much more often by performances in which the conductor or the orchestra have rushed tempi and sounded sloppy.
Celibidache is close to a genius but, as it often happen to anyone in such a spiritual position, he is a very repelling human being. When I watch his rehearsals, I always wonder why the hell does he dare to yell at his musicians. If I were there, I definitely would jump up and punch him in the fat and complacent Zen-Buddist mug...Just to know how to behave properly. Otherwise, and I write this without any irony or sarcasm, for me he is one of the greatest conductors of all times! His Bruckner and Brahms are unsurpassed.
Good speeds for a first rehearsal. Celibidache was a bullshitter.
Quousque tandem abutere, Celibidache, patientia nostra?
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マエストロは常に解釈に悩む。
孤高の領域に達したマエストロのみが遅いテンポの演奏にたどり着くのだろう。
晩年のカラヤン、バーンスタイン、朝比奈隆。そしてチェリビダッケ。
As much as I generally like Celibidache, this feels protracted and lifeless.
I think differently. It is full of life--and everything.
Origins of music unevidenced. Except it is gift to humanity from God the Creator. Music continues in heaven. Discontinues in hell.
Jesus Christ came from heaven to earth for one purpose only - to die on cross for remissions of pre-existing sins of every single person and to resurrect. Jesus Christ providing forgiveness from pre-existing sins for every single person, salvation from eternity in hell and free entry to eternity in heaven for all who repent of sins in Jesus Christ.
Other side of death is eternity. Eternity in hell. Or eternity in heaven through Jesus Christ.
Penalty of pre-existing sins already paid by Jesus Christ on The Cross. Accept HIM. Be saved from eternal in hell. Enter heaven. Enjoy heavenly music. For free.
An HOUR for Tchaikovsky's 5th? He must be spinning in his grave. Or rather, rolling over very, very slowly. Seriously, this is a travesty.
Just listen.
Yes. Yes it is.
too slow...
and its good
***** yeap
:)
Just like your understanding of music
I do not want to hear anything fast, if ever, only if it starts slowly, and then to finish play it all together, as well as the Celibidache do, initially makes you feel each instrumentat at a time, and then put them all together, masterful
Noiosa...