I don't believe that Hawaii exists. It's definitely not a real place. So, If anyone wants to send me there for 3 weeks so I can debunk this myth I'll be happy to put my credibility on the line. Depending on the success of that, I may debunk Dubai next.
i heard of a mythical place named Australia , they say it got mammals that lay eggs & spiders big as dawgs . maybe u should get a crew & start an expedition .
@@siddharths4676 A lot of maps seem to be missing New Zealand for some reason. I want to know if that lost civilization exists for science! Oh wait, do we even believe in science?
Should have been a student in my school in 2006. We fundraised ad a student council so hard over five years that in 06 we sent the entire student body, teachers, and a few parent chaperones to Hawaii for a month so they could have a new learning experience instead of dealing with another gray winter.
@@leanbean8962 good one, lol. They always says things like that, and like whats the volume of gravity or pressure needs a container or whats the density of light.
Them saying gravity is magic and that it's just buoyancy and density is really stupid considering if there's no gravity, nothing is more buoyant than something else. You could easily put a pocket of air into a water bubble and it'd just stay there.
Yep. Ask them what makes more dense thing go "down" when the air actually gets LESS dense as you go UP, and they just stare at you blankly like YOU'RE the crazy one for asking!
I recon we probably live on a globe, but you can't be certain. If you flip a coin 49.9% of the time, heads face 49.9% it's tails face But sometimes the coin lands on it's side. Funny how that never happens with celestial bodies. Anyway, heads it's round, tails it's flat, if the coin lands on the side I get to keep it. Who wants to bet?
The Earth has been proven with many a scientific experiment, many an instrument and many an observation, to be horizontally level, motionless and stationary, which makes the globe-earth theory fall apart. Not one scientific experiment has ever proven the earth either a globe nor rotating nor orbiting the sun, nor has any of the required curvature or motion ever been detected or measured anywhere on earth. ⬇️ 1. Provide a verifiable demonstrably observable example of where the required measurable curvature of 8 inches x the distance in miles squared can be measured, anywhere on earth, in accordance with spherical trigonometry necessary in order to make an alleged globe of 24,901 miles in circumference. Also provide photographic proof & data of this same measurement & curvature visible from left to right on the horizon. You will fail. 2. Provide a diagram demonstrating how the observably verifiable reality of a day-time full moon is possible In the heliocentric theory, showing positions of sun, moon & earth. Also practically demonstrate how an object can cast a shadow smaller than itself, as claimed occurs during a solar eclipse, casting a 70 mile wide shadow from an alleged 2160 mile wide moon. You will fail both. 3. Provide even one scientific proof, or cite one scientific experiment that has detected, measured and proven an alleged rotating, orbiting (flying) globe earth. Do not embarrass yourself by mentioning the Foucault pendulum magic trick illusion that needs to be set in motion manually and requires an electrical pulse a its fulcrum to prevent it from coming to a stop as all other pendulums naturally do, and which in no way what-so-ever would prove an alleged earth motion anyway, since it also fails to account for the earth's alleged motion around the sun. You will fail 4. Provide a testable, observable repeatable verifiable experiment, showing how an alleged vacuum (the fictional fantasy fairy-tale of outer-space) can exist next to a pressurized atmo"sphere" (the fairy tale globe earth) without a barrier separating them. Demonstrate how gas pressure is possible without a container to create & contain the gas pressure. A claim must be observable, testable and repeatable in order to be scientific. Don't embarrass yourself further by confirming your proofiless claims by mentioning a "pressure gradient'. Prootless theoretical excuses are not proof. You Will falil. 5. The ludicrously absurd proofless theory of Gravity contradicts and disproves itself in every way it claims to exist. Prove the claims of the proofless theory of Gravity in reality by empirically demonstrating a mass attracting (pulling) another mass, at free-fall speed, by virtue of its mass alone, as per the scientific method necessarily required for all these 10 chalenges. You will fail. 6. What empirical proof or scientific experiment can you demonstrate or cite for the existence of terra firma *planets", "outer-space""space-travel"or anything claimed to exist in "outer-space"? The answer, you will realize is NONE. You have been successfully indoctrinated, and fooled into a delusion of an illusion of reality, by the pseudo-scientific religion of Scientism. You Will fail. 7. Provide empirical proof of a repeatable observable scientific experiment that shows a body of water conforming to the outside of a sphere, and then also spin that sphere's surface at 1000 mph while also flying the water-conformed sphere forwards at 66,600mph, without any external presure applied to it, showing water still conforming to it. You will fail in all 3. 8. Provide proof that the ground under your feet is racing upwards at 66,600mph every day at 6am, with you stuck to it, towards all aircraft above it, without colliding into any of them, and then is racing sideways at 66,600 mph at 12pm, then racing downwards at 66,600 mph at 6pm, with you stuck to it, away from all aircraft above it, without leaving them behind, and then racing sideways again at 66,600 mph at 12am, every day of your life, and that neither the alleged non-constant acceleration, velocity, or the change in opposite direction can be felt, measured or detected, as the globe earth theory necessarily dictates, requires and claims. You will fail. 9. Provide a repeatable observable scientific experiment that shows a mass orbiting another mass by virtue of its mass alone, keeping it also contradictorily to the theory of gravity, at a set distance away from it instead of pulling the mass towards it, as the theory of gravity claims when it suits it to do so. You Will fall. 10. Provide a video of the whole alleged Globe Earth rotating in real time, showing real-time verifiable weather patterns, then zoom into the bottom of the alleged globe in relation to the camera's position, in real time, zooming in to show daily activity occurring, showing people, ships, aircraft, clouds etc, upside down in relation to the top of the alleged globe. It should be the easiest thing in the world to provide with alleged satellites, telescopes and a space-station all whizzing around the alleged globe at all times. You will fail. Anyone who accepts this challenge, will inevitably fail to provide any of the necessarily required globe-earth-proofs and must then pay David J Caron the minimum of €10,000, which he may donate to the charity of his choice. You will only discover how cluelessly ignorant you are when you try and inevitably FAlL to prove how smart you thought you were, same as all in history who tried & failed before you. Try and realize why that is & what it means & proves, if you have the intellectual honesty & courage to accept the truth you fear & the integrity to admit defeat by the undefeatable truth of reality.
As a civil engineer, I can guarantee you that we do have to account for the curvature of the earth when building bridges, tunnels, and especially train lines (high speed).
I'm not even an engineer, I just have a thirst for knowledge. You are correct, Geodetic surveying absolutely accounts for the curvature. The formula for this is Cc = 0.07849 d^2. Edited for better info.
My favorite was the ones who bought a gyroscope for $20K and predicted - accurately - that a rotating globe Earth would register 15 degrees of rotation per hour. When they found exactly those results they said "Uh, we found some drift that we don't know how to explain". They have already decided what they want to find and will talk themselves out of reality. They fit observation to theory, not the other way around.
They actually said the results don't say what they wanted to say, so they couldn't let that information get out. Instead, they had to come up with an alternate explanation, and that what they detected wasn't the earth's rotation, but instead was the "heavenly bodies" rotating above & interfering with their readings 🤣
As for the gyro thing, bob and crew also took the gyro up top of a mountain nearby and got a different reading than 15 degrees which on a spinning earth it should have remained 15 degrees. guess what, behind the curve doc omitted that part out of the film. Go back to bed Sleepwalker.
@@someonerandom704 \ jeran's arms are not 6 feet long for one thing. so he could not have raised up the light that far that was stated on their tests. i dont remember the exact feet. maybe from 17 to 24 feet i think. anyways i remember it was 6 feet difference when him and enrique went to raise the light up more. NightyNite sleepwalkerZzz
@mikeflatbird729 lol just stop embarrassing yourself. It's hilariously easy to prove it. The earth is not flat, it's just losers with no real life so they invest in conspiracy to feel like they know something others don't
@@DrEMichaelJonesIt's harder to measure a rectangle accurately when the rectangle is curving, same reason you can't get an accurate flat map of the earth without weird stretching
is there situations where u don't, and if so wats the cut off point of when u account for the curvature vs wen u don't
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@@lolidemon3163 There's planar surveying for small areas like construction sites. Which uses simplified methods that do not necessarily include corrections in math. But still, the methods are designed the way, so curve of the Earth does not spoil the measurements. For example, differential leveling (transferring level from one point to another) is done like there was no curve - simply "I'm 3 ft above the other place with known elevation". But it is done in very small steps (~100ft), so curve does not introduce any measurable difference. Which is then repeated until the "far end" is reached. At each point you use leveled measuring device. It is similar to drawing a circle with short lines with each of them being correctly aligned with the desired circle. There's and error in each of them, but so small, it is not even measurable. The planar surveying is limited to roughly ~10 miles of distance (100 miles squared). After that curvature of the Earths starts to be a significant factor. However, when you at some specific buildings - like LIGO for example. LIGO is two perpendicular arms of 4 km (~2.5 miles) long perfectly straight tunnels containing vacuum tubes. It is a government funded scientific project, so its complete construction documentation is freely available and there are two of them - Hanford and Livingston, both sites have documentation available. From it, it is possible to see, that those straight tunnels start at one elevation which first decreases and then starts to increase again. Even though it is less than 10 miles and planar surveying would be sufficient, builders had to account for Earth's curve, so the arms could remain straight.
Many years ago I was working on a small project where I wrote code that would make some calculations based on GPS coordinates. What I've noticed was that the error for the distances between two points was getting larger the further the points were apart. Also, the lines my code was generating were not quite the shape I expected them to be. I was erroneously calculating stuff without taking into account the curvature of the Earth, when I changed the formulas I was using everything just fell into place. Bottom line is that the curvature of the planet has to be considered for way smaller scales than what I thought.
I used the play an AR game called ingress, the basic idea was to link three points in the real world together in the game to create a triangle field that you control. One of the rules is links can't cross, this would be frustrating sometimes as the game display didn't account for curve so when it came to long links the display would show them crossed because there was no other way to display them correctly at that build of the game, the work around was a live online map that shows a world map with all the links and triangle fields. The first thing you notice is the longer the link the more curved it's is.
A couple of ancient Greek dudes with some sticks and dirt were able to figure this out and yet we have 10 million idiots with the power of the internet echo chamber here thinking they know what tf they are talking about
I live where it’s so flat and empty, there are places where you can turn around and see a nearly 360 horizon that obviously dips down. Yet we have loads of FEs.
\ imagine not knowing the "math equations & formulas" for those sticks & shadows work on a flat earth too, with a small close local sun. Imagine also not knowing even neil degrasse tyson said that the math works the same with a small close local sun. in his Star Talk video. Imagine also, not knowing in that same video neil even said 2 sticks does not work to prove a globe or curve and that at least 3 sticks were needed. Imagine also, not knowing your sci-fi puppet V-sauce also literally said, and i quote, "The math works the same", right in the middle section of his flat earth video called something like "Is the earth flat". Go back to bed Sleepwalker.
Curvature actually does start to make a difference on your lengthier projects, like intercontinental railroads and some interstate highways. It doesn't affect construction techniques in the field, but curvature can begin to affect the amount of materials needed, the true travel distance along the ground for the train, and really just cost factors overall. Basically if you've got to do any accounting in the books for construction or maintenance on a super long stretch of infrastructure, you're going to be accounting for curvature too.
As someone who has a telescope, loves doing astrophotography, and is pursuing my degree in astrophysics, it really just frustrates me when real data; images captured, are just waved away and called "CGI". Why is it automatically CGI? Is it maybe because it's a different look at nature the human mind isn't used to on a day to day basis? Astrophotography is NOT easy, it takes multiple nights of multiple hours capturing multiple exposures, and that's not even including stacking the frames / exposures and the post processing and editing itself, all usually taking up to a full day on the computer. Maybe it's considered CGI because we use COMPUTERS to capture, process, and edit the data? But that doesn't mean CGI AI generated bullshit. That just means using modern technology and advanced techniques to make things invisible to the human eye, visible. Also, for flat Earthers, there's two different types of telescope mounts in astronomy. Alt Az mounts can track something with an X and Y horizontal and vertical axis. These are a lot cheaper compared to the more advanced equatorial mounts, that rotate with the earth throughout the night once aligned with Polaris (North Star). If you use the cheaper Alt Az mount, you will experience field rotation because........ the Earth is a spinning globe. Guess what happens when you polar align an equatorial mount that rotates with the Earth? No field rotation. It's crazy how mathematics and science just work isn't it? Nah. CGI.
Right, and the theory of gravity isn't about whether gravity exists or not, we KNOW it exists. But the reasons as to why mass attracts mass & how that creates gravity are still theoretical.
@@corey2232 Einstein's theory of general relativity gives a pretty solid and evidence supported basis for how gravity works, it's just that the term "law" has fallen out of favor since nothing is ever truly final. The current debate is over whether we need an updated model of gravity to explain some of the interactions we see on the massive scale of galaxy clusters or if Dark Matter exists and is sufficient to explain it.
@@Cloudsurfer69 Adding on, general relativity has some scarily accurate predictions that has only been proven relatively recently like gravitational waves and the image of a black hole, but it can't be *the* explanation for gravity cause once you go into quantum mechanics, GR doesn't play as nicely
Uh, you got the wrong understanding what theory in sciences actually is. Like Newton's Classical Mechanics Theory, it explains a lot of things and it is also technically incorrect as it contradics other things (relativity and Quantum).
I remember back a few years ago, one FlatEarth dude went out with *_heavy and heavily scientific equipment_* and also recorded himself for YT while documenting his findings. He ended up _accidentally_ proving the earth being round while no shot using legit and correct attempts in measuring and mathing out what he did like a normal scientist would
There is also a flat earther that after Bobs Knodel embarrassing Gyroscope confirmation of the earth rotation, meade a mechanical gyro, because they think anything tech related is controlled by the elites hiding the plane, and the mechanical gyro proved again, the rotating, THEN bob Knodel sued that flat earth in order to preserve his scam cult
Youre closing your eyes to the truth, operation fishbowl proved we are all living in a multidimensional snow globe where Santa can watch us all to see if weve been good or bad.
One thing I’ve NEVER understood about Flat Earthers is when they say that the government is trying to hide us all from knowing the truth of it being flat! Like what difference will it make knowing whether or not it’s flat or a globe!! Globe earth?… Cool *carries on with normal life Flat earth?… Cool *carries on with normal life I of course do believe it’s a globe!
There would be plenty of reasons. It would hide intelligent design or “god” for that matter, where people would think they’re just monkeys in a floating rock spinning 666thousans miles
If you feel bad remember a flat earther spent 20k dollars on a ring laser gyroscope to dissaprove the rotation of the earth, it gave them the correct reading for the rotation of the earth in one hour. The utter clown said "heavenly energies" influenced the final result
Like the other guy who tried to use line of sight through a hole between two points at the same elevation to prove flatness and only managed to demonstrate the curve, called it "interesting" and then tried to claim that there was some shrubbery in the way or smth like that 😂
They already do! Many flat earthers are fundamental Christian, and they literally believe islam is a "satanic deception" Which i find very ironic, because fundamental muslims say the same thing about them 😂 This is what happens when people stop using logic.
Hey Muta, do you know about the massive security flaw in the flat earth app? The entire database is exposed to the internet, and can be retrieved just by posting a request to the server. This information includes every user's names, emails, their GPS location (if they've used the friend finder), and their password, stored in plaintext, no salt and no hash. Dave has been made aware of this, and rather than fixing the bug, or pulling the app from the app store, has instead elected to ignore the issue, and claim that it isn't a big deal.
They shifted the goalposts as soon as the trip was announced. All the flat Earther's used to say the 24 hour sun was impossible, before the trip even happened they started backpedaling and trying to say they never said that.
@@HutchDudandy1 the funniest part is, if you go back about a year or so, you can find each and every one of them saying that the 24 hour sun is IMPOSSIBLE on the flat earth.
3:00 that's such a lie. As a civil engineer student I've been told at least two times that the earth's curvature needs to be accounted for, once when the topic of large bridges came up and once in a course on surveying.
@@Ironica82when a bridge or tunnel is more than a few miles they have to start calculating with earths curvature in account, otherwise your calculations start to hit the shit can
Of course, they obviously know they're wrong and will do absolutely anything except go out and prove the earth is flat, which will lead to reality hitting them like a brick
Hello, Union 3 Surveyor here. As a surveyor I do have to calculate the curvature of the earth. Some jobsites run miles and checking distances over miles the curvature of the earth does affect our measurements, so they are factored into our calculations.
if you wanna do that talk about how this invisible dome that holds in all of our air called the firmament exists and how it it's reasonable for all the rocket ship fails, firework explosions and how it destroyed all the nukes that Putin sent us
People hear "Theory of Gravity" and think, "Wait, so all of gravity is up for debate?" No. The theory of gravity is concerned with what causes gravity rather than whether or not gravity exists.
Yeah, people don't know the difference between the scientific use of the word "theory" and the colloquial use. I'm constantly having to explain it to people.
Still not quite. The "theory" of gravity refers to the fact that the evidence for gravity is extremely well founded and well supported with evidence. In the past, this would be called a "law", but that term has fallen out of favor. What causes gravity is also pretty well established by Einstein's THEORY of general relativity, it is just often misunderstood. However, that, just like his field equations and Newton's gravitational equations are always up for debate in the sense that if new observation does not match the prediction, a new model may be in order or supplemental information may be needed to explain the observation under the current model. This is seen in the current debate over if Dark Matter exists or if we need a modified model of gravity to explain some of the behaviors we see on the massive scale of galaxies and galaxy clusters, where Einstein's field equations make some inaccurate predictions, if Dark Matter doesn't exist. This is just like the debate and discoveries that prompted Einstein to develop his theory of general relativity, such as the observation of the procession of the orbit of Mercury, which Newton's equations did not predict accurately, but Einstein's field equations do predict accurately. Flerfs like to use this and the current debate to throw away the entire notion of gravity, despite the fact that Einstein's field equations reduce to Newton's equations on small scales, Newton's equations are correct on everything up to the scale of objects moving at relativistic speeds or being very close to super massive objects like stars, and Einstein's field equations make accurate predictions up to the scale of some interactions within galaxies and multi galaxy clusters.
@@bobbobert9379 Relativity does not "cause" gravity. It's still "only" an explanation of it's effects. We still do not know exactly what causes mass to attract mass. At least as far as I know.
The flat earther Jeranism, accidentally proved curvature in a documentary trying to debunk the globe. He said “interesting”. And then later removed the video.
jeran's arms are not 6 feet long for one thing. so he could not have raised up the light that far that was stated on their tests. i dont remember the exact feet. maybe from 17 to 24 feet i think. anyways i remember it was 6 feet difference when him and enrique went to raise the light up more. NightyNite sleepwalker.
So when Jeran gets back home will he say "interesting" again in regards to TFE and continue on with his flat earth journey? Or find another conspiracy?
@@fedogma8407 He will play on the plausible deniability of saying "well, i just said there was a 24hr sun. Never said the earth is a globe". Then continue his grift
@@mikeflatbird729 wrong. The correct globe prediction was to see the light at 19.5ft above water level factoring in moderate refraction. That’s where it was seen. Flat earth was lower than that.
In science, a "Theory" doesn't mean "I think this is what happens". A "Theory" in science is an explanation of something that has already been tested, observed, proven, etc. What we usually call "theory" in every day life is what scientists call a "Hypotheses". The "gravitational theory" is what explains gravity, not a hunch.
It's honestly incredible how people from ancient times able to comprehend that the earth is spherical without technologies as advanced as ours while lots of people in our generation struggle to do the same even with the technology we have.
@@rosesweetcharlotte No, it's due to the massive distrust in our governments, which is 100% understandable. What isn't understandable though, is when they can and HAVE done experiments to try and prove the flat earth BS by themselves, they still choose to be delusional, even if the proof is literally in front of them.d
Because most of everything is already solved for us, no one wants to think and all they can do is just either except or deny things. Add to that more of these people can communicate and there you go. I fear for the post AI misinfo generation
@rosesweetcharlotte That would only make sense if being a flat earther didn't carry such a social stigma. Who would align themselves with the most hated demographic on earth just to be contrarian? Ask 100 flat earthers if they lost the affections of family or friends and 90% of them will tell you yes. The problem is that your side almost never comes to our side for information. You get your info from the people who support your beliefs. Most flerfers once believed everything that your side believes.
My favorite flat earth proof is that crudely drawn picture of 2 shoes. One that's flat on the bottom and the other with a heavy concave shape. Followed by the caption, "If the earth was round, how come the bottom of shoes are shaped like THIS and not like THAT."
The issue with flat earthers, is that none of them believe in the same thing. They all have different beliefs on the shape, ice walls, secret land, space, planets, etc.
And it doesnt matter to them lol, They dont have a true model, never had. They have separate models to "explain" different phenomenons, but never an unified one. Eclipses are impossible on a flat earth
@hesido yes, he has a ton of videos about organic chemistry, instrumental analytics, etc. If I'm not mistaken he used to teach organic chemistry in a college/university at some point.
It is his title - BA in chemistry. You don't need to read anything more, he is a clown (even if he takes the lowest hanging fruit and "debunks" a social group which has been debunked at least the same amount of times as some commenters saying that Dave is a professor xD). tl;dr - Dave is a nobody with an opinion.
Still believing in a flat or globe earth is hilarious when the answer is right in front of us. The earth is very clearly an octahedron atop truncated tetrahedron shape.
It's fun to Google stuff like holes in the theory of gravity as a starting point to make a flat earth argument and make an average person do brain bending research to counter back. I don't think most flat earthers are real. It's just fun to troll with
My favorite argument for the question “why would people keep lying about it” is that it is because they would have to change all the text books and globes for schools. And I’m like, “yeah because no company would want to have every single customer have to rebuy everything they sell. Nevermind that school textbooks change/update regularly” 😂
@@craciunator99If you're bad that Muta is telling us that the earth is round, you should be more mad that the schooling system is also teaching us that same thing.
LIES! WE have midnight sun in OUR summer therefore YOU cant because.... summer and summer and you live on the opposite side and thats not very pancakey.
thats why they went to the south pole. Even flat earthers cant deny the 24h sun in the north. There being a 24h sun both south and north really is a problem for their "model" though
The flat earth model has an answer to a 24 hour sun in the north. It just can't explain one at the Southern pole. They think Antarctica is a "ring" of ice that forms the outer rim of the flat earth. That's why they went there instead of to the Artic in the northern Summer.
This is true! A quarter of Finland's territory lies north of the Arctic Circle, and at the country's northernmost point the Sun does not set at all for 72 days during summer. Usually May to August, while further south the sun can be visible for nearly around the clock during June and July.
@@pepsigotdanghare lmfao yeah but there influences was localized. The internet now and day any idiot can jump on social media and watch a short they feel deeply about (popularized by TikTok)
Most flat earth "proofs" are simply showing that the earth is locally flat, which is a well known property of spheres and in fact all differentiable manifolds.
"So if Earth is flat, does that mean all the other planets in our solar system are flat too?" Flat Earther: "Uh, no. The other planets are globes, but Earth is flat." Okey dokey.
The other planer are not round because they dont exist, they are light in the dome place by God and maintained by illuminati engineers. To hide the fact that there are more lands beyond the ice wall, that only the elites go there with Nazi submarines and slave extraterrestrial humans, because they are outside earth, and get more resources and money from that. ....sounds like satire but they say all of these things...
he's very immature actually, ever seen him trying to have a debate with someone? He rather becomes personal, being offensive, insulting, instead of being a level headed scientist lol please don't look up to idiots.. there are many more people who ARE able to be level headed scientists
@ He’s not an idiot. Do you think he doesn’t offer good facts? He’s very factual when he debates. I’ve been able to watch him and get inspired to do my own research about topics. When I do my own research it aligns with the facts he gives. What does he get wrong?
@I.Am.Nobody I wouldn’t call it immaturity, so much as a deep-seated disdain for stupidity, real or perceived. He does tend to strawman and mock anti-intellectuals, and I’ll admit I’m not a fan of the degree to which he does that, but I can’t say I don’t understand where he’s coming from. If I could name one science educator that I wish people like Dave and Thunderf00t would emulate, it would probably be Clint’s Reptiles (evolutionary biology), or maybe Kyle Hill (nuclear energy and radiation).
I've followed Creaky Blinder, SciMan Dan, Prof. Dave, and the countless other creators in the debunk community for years, some of them, like MC Toon, in Antarctica as we speak. I was so stoked to hear about the Final Experiment made possible thanks to Will Duffy.
@@VisualAuditoryHillucinationsOf 17th December was their last day, so they are travelling back home because they got most of the videos, footage and data.
An uncle of mine is a flat earther and the amount of times hed proven himself wrong, but got mad over it is absolutely ridiculous. I remember the last time I stayed at his house....he showed me a video of a rocket flying up into the atmosphere, it stopped suddenly, like it hit something, and he grew a big smile on his face saying "See? We live in a dome, and the earth is flat, theres no curve on the camera at all" Until I brought up the fact that any kind of rocket trying to take off into space would have a curved top and the rocket would have shot off into a different direction if it really did hit something. He changed his mind and said it mustve been something with a liquid like state, and i just said even if it was a liquid, like even oobleck, at the speed it was going, it still wouldve refracted off and went a different direction, or even slanted in whatever it buried itself into...Plus it was full of rocket feul, so it would have exploded on impact. He got so mad at me he sent me back home that day, and I dont talk to him much anymore, all over that one specific argument. Idk if anyone can find the video im talking about but I just remember it saying some shit like "hitting the dome in 3..2..1... n then it stops.
Nah, let's ne real. They will spout more bs and say something like "Nah these people that have been in the Flat Earth community for years are actually just paid actors and also this video is fake"
I think flat earthers are just master class trolls. I had a co worker once who believes in flat earth. She would come up with all these wild theories and say it with a straight face that i just couldnt tell if she actually believed it, or if she just wants to troll. She was always trilling on other things, so it just made it difficult to truly know when she was genuine or not.
The earth _is_ flat tho, it's just that gravity warps spacetime to a Non-Euclidian elyptic geometry - characterised by the Riemann Tensor - giving the illusory appearance of an oblate spheroid 😏
One correction. A scientific theory is not a theory like the dictionary definition. It isnt a guess or an idea. That would be a hypothesis. A "theory" in this context is basically an explanation for a concept using scientific laws. A scientific theory never becomes a scientific law they are seperate. Individual laws make up the theory
I live in Louisiana, north of NOLA... you literally can see the curve driving the Causeway or the Twin Spans. These people floor me. It's not hard to debunk, they just refuse to accept reality.
Will Duffy accidentally left his greenscreen chroma key setting on, in his first video in Antarctica. This is because he had previously used a greenscreen-- before going to Antarctica. The greenscreen was for the TFE logo, which showed up in the video in Antarctica, on a green patch on someone's coat. If a greenscreen had been used to fake the Antarctica background, then the Antarctica background would have shown up on the guy's coat instead of the TFE logo. This is all very simple when explained in context, but flat-earthers are desperate to reject TFE as a hoax.
2:50: You're arguing against a falsehood under the assumption that the statement is true. The fact of the matter is that engineers actually do take it into account when relevant, such as when building long bridges or tunnels.
You all are so behind, I'm on Hotdog Earth. And don't even get me started on Ketchup or Mustard, every self-respecting Hotdog Earther knows which configuration is right.
Yes! I am posting this to double vote. Also someone has looked into the code of the app that has a find other users feature. It uses the globe map to find other flat earthers 😂
I mean, you spend most of your life being told what to believe by a person on a pulpit, and not take the time to investigate for yourself, you're way more likely to believe outlandish shit like this without a thought. Spoken as someone who saw the truth and danger of the religion grift from an early age and got out.
I don't believe that Hawaii exists. It's definitely not a real place. So, If anyone wants to send me there for 3 weeks so I can debunk this myth I'll be happy to put my credibility on the line.
Depending on the success of that, I may debunk Dubai next.
Can we debunk Las Vegas next? And I am going to need some money to help debunk these "casinos" they may or may not have
i heard of a mythical place named Australia , they say it got mammals that lay eggs & spiders big as dawgs .
maybe u should get a crew & start an expedition .
@@siddharths4676 A lot of maps seem to be missing New Zealand for some reason. I want to know if that lost civilization exists for science! Oh wait, do we even believe in science?
Should have been a student in my school in 2006. We fundraised ad a student council so hard over five years that in 06 we sent the entire student body, teachers, and a few parent chaperones to Hawaii for a month so they could have a new learning experience instead of dealing with another gray winter.
Dubai is unfortunately real.
YOU KNOW WHAT ISN'T? THAT'S RIGHT, COLOGNE, GERMANY! COLOGNE, GERMANY IS NOT REAL! CHECKMATE ROUNDIES!
The earth is flat. Over 70% of the surface is covered in water and none of it is carbonated.
lol underrated comment
Damn I thought it tasted a little off
troll spotted
Tell that to the three CO2 saturated lakes in Africa and the plenty of carbonated natural springs that exist
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Flat earthers are such goofballs
Excuse me, I meant *goofplanes*
underrated
if the earth is round how come the ball AINT going no where.
excellent comment
@@leanbean8962 good one, lol. They always says things like that, and like whats the volume of gravity or pressure needs a container or whats the density of light.
I see what you did there.
nice
Them saying gravity is magic and that it's just buoyancy and density is really stupid considering if there's no gravity, nothing is more buoyant than something else. You could easily put a pocket of air into a water bubble and it'd just stay there.
Yep. Ask them what makes more dense thing go "down" when the air actually gets LESS dense as you go UP, and they just stare at you blankly like YOU'RE the crazy one for asking!
To calculate Buoyancy there is a G in the formula. Guess what that G stands for 😋
It’s not magic it’s electromagnetism
@@urduib Gibberish?
And ask they, How they know about bouyancy?
I tell ya, as an Australian. Keeping shit in our pockets is SOOOOO hard. It just keeps falling out all the time, really annoying
Lol well of course you live in the doen under.
Down under ???
Ken oath
I recon we probably live on a globe, but you can't be certain.
If you flip a coin
49.9% of the time, heads face
49.9% it's tails face
But sometimes the coin lands on it's side. Funny how that never happens with celestial bodies.
Anyway, heads it's round, tails it's flat, if the coin lands on the side I get to keep it.
Who wants to bet?
We all know Australia isn't real, you're not fooling anyone.
The words “flat earthers” and “wrong” go together like chocolate and milk
More like milk and milk.
like a McDonald’s employee to a burger
Cookies and Milk?
@ this is much better than what I said 🤣
More like the Steve Astin and the Rock
Debunking a Flat Earther is like taking candy from a baby: Very easy to do, but damn they won't stop crying.
🤣
Well said. They deflect questions more than a mirror deflects light.
The Earth has been proven with many a scientific experiment, many an instrument and many an observation, to be horizontally level, motionless and stationary, which makes the globe-earth theory fall apart.
Not one scientific experiment has ever proven the earth either a globe nor rotating nor orbiting the sun, nor has any of the required curvature or motion ever been detected or measured anywhere on earth.
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1. Provide a verifiable demonstrably observable example of where the required measurable curvature of 8 inches x the distance in miles squared can be measured, anywhere on earth, in accordance with
spherical trigonometry necessary in order to make an alleged globe of 24,901 miles in circumference. Also provide photographic proof & data of this same measurement & curvature visible from left to right
on the horizon. You will fail.
2. Provide a diagram demonstrating how the observably verifiable reality of a day-time full moon is possible In the heliocentric theory, showing positions of sun, moon & earth. Also practically demonstrate how an object can cast a shadow smaller than itself, as claimed occurs during a solar eclipse, casting a 70 mile wide shadow from an alleged 2160 mile wide moon. You will fail both.
3. Provide even one scientific proof, or cite one scientific experiment that has detected, measured and proven an alleged rotating, orbiting (flying) globe earth. Do not embarrass yourself by mentioning the Foucault pendulum magic trick illusion that needs to be set in motion manually and requires an electrical pulse a its fulcrum to prevent it from coming to a stop as all other pendulums naturally do, and which in no way what-so-ever would prove an alleged earth motion anyway, since it also fails to account for the earth's alleged motion around the sun. You will fail
4. Provide a testable, observable repeatable verifiable experiment, showing how an alleged vacuum (the fictional fantasy fairy-tale of outer-space) can exist next to a pressurized atmo"sphere" (the fairy tale globe earth) without a barrier separating them. Demonstrate how gas pressure is possible without a container to create & contain the gas pressure. A claim must be observable, testable
and repeatable in order to be scientific. Don't embarrass yourself further by confirming your proofiless claims by mentioning a "pressure gradient'. Prootless theoretical excuses are not proof. You Will falil.
5. The ludicrously absurd proofless theory of Gravity contradicts and disproves itself in every way it claims to exist. Prove the claims of the proofless theory of Gravity in reality by empirically demonstrating a mass attracting (pulling) another mass, at free-fall speed, by virtue of its mass alone, as per the scientific method necessarily required for all these 10 chalenges. You will fail.
6. What empirical proof or scientific experiment can you demonstrate or cite for the existence of terra firma *planets", "outer-space""space-travel"or anything claimed to exist in "outer-space"? The answer, you will realize is NONE. You have been successfully indoctrinated, and fooled into a delusion of an illusion of reality, by the pseudo-scientific religion of Scientism. You Will fail.
7. Provide empirical proof of a repeatable observable scientific experiment that shows a body of water conforming to the outside of a sphere, and then also spin that sphere's surface at 1000 mph while also flying the water-conformed sphere forwards at 66,600mph, without any external presure applied to it, showing water still conforming to it. You will fail in all 3.
8. Provide proof that the ground under your feet is racing upwards at 66,600mph every day at 6am, with you stuck to it, towards all aircraft above it, without colliding into any of them, and then is racing sideways at 66,600 mph at 12pm, then racing downwards at 66,600 mph at 6pm, with you stuck to it, away from all aircraft above it, without leaving them behind, and then racing sideways again at 66,600 mph at 12am, every day of your life, and that neither the alleged non-constant acceleration, velocity, or the change in opposite direction can be felt, measured or detected, as the globe earth theory necessarily dictates, requires and claims. You will fail.
9. Provide a repeatable observable scientific experiment that shows a mass orbiting another mass by virtue of its mass alone, keeping it also contradictorily to the theory of gravity, at a set distance away from it instead of pulling the mass towards it, as the theory of gravity claims when it suits it to do so. You Will fall.
10. Provide a video of the whole alleged Globe Earth rotating in real time, showing real-time verifiable weather patterns, then zoom into the bottom of the alleged globe in relation to the camera's position, in real time, zooming in to show daily activity occurring, showing people, ships, aircraft, clouds etc, upside down in relation to the top of the alleged globe. It should be the easiest thing in the world to
provide with alleged satellites, telescopes and a space-station all whizzing around the alleged globe at all times. You will fail.
Anyone who accepts this challenge, will inevitably fail to provide any of the necessarily required globe-earth-proofs and must then pay David J Caron the minimum of €10,000, which he may donate to the charity of his choice. You will only discover how cluelessly ignorant you are when you try and inevitably FAlL to prove how smart you thought you were, same as all in history who tried & failed before you. Try and realize why that is & what it means & proves, if you have the intellectual honesty & courage to accept the truth you fear & the integrity to admit defeat by the undefeatable truth of reality.
great comment
Also won’t change anything
As a civil engineer, I can guarantee you that we do have to account for the curvature of the earth when building bridges, tunnels, and especially train lines (high speed).
I'm not even an engineer, I just have a thirst for knowledge. You are correct, Geodetic surveying absolutely accounts for the curvature. The formula for this is Cc = 0.07849 d^2.
Edited for better info.
Rubbish. Pilots don't thou right the ascend. Level off and decend the nose isn't down because the curvature is it
My favorite was the ones who bought a gyroscope for $20K and predicted - accurately - that a rotating globe Earth would register 15 degrees of rotation per hour. When they found exactly those results they said "Uh, we found some drift that we don't know how to explain".
They have already decided what they want to find and will talk themselves out of reality. They fit observation to theory, not the other way around.
during the same episode they also proved curvature with shining a light over a long distance.
They actually said the results don't say what they wanted to say, so they couldn't let that information get out. Instead, they had to come up with an alternate explanation, and that what they detected wasn't the earth's rotation, but instead was the "heavenly bodies" rotating above & interfering with their readings 🤣
As for the gyro thing, bob and crew also took the gyro up top of a mountain nearby and got a different reading than 15 degrees which on a spinning earth it should have remained 15 degrees. guess what, behind the curve doc omitted that part out of the film. Go back to bed Sleepwalker.
@@someonerandom704 \ jeran's arms are not 6 feet long for one thing. so he could not have raised up the light that far that was stated on their tests. i dont remember the exact feet. maybe from 17 to 24 feet i think. anyways i remember it was 6 feet difference when him and enrique went to raise the light up more. NightyNite sleepwalkerZzz
@mikeflatbird729 lol just stop embarrassing yourself. It's hilariously easy to prove it. The earth is not flat, it's just losers with no real life so they invest in conspiracy to feel like they know something others don't
Thanks for the shoutout!
MISTER FARINA, GO GO GO!
Ey nice to see you popping in here. Love your channel! 😄
Yo Professor Dave, what's up. Love your content man, keep it up.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains my goat
The messiah
I hate that we live in such an anti-intellectualism period of time where some people are actually dumb enough to believe the world is flat
Two things can be true at once
1. Academia has become overrun with ideologically driven, authoritarian people.
2. The Earth is a globe
They almost always subscribe to most of the common conspiracy theories. SMH.
"There's a sucker born every minute" [Barnum, the famous 19th century American showman and founder of the Barnum & Bailey Circus].
Anti-science/anti-intellectualism is getting out of control
@@scottydu81I fail to see your point. Where in Academia do you see ideologies taking hold more than science?
Just so you know, surveyors DO mathematically account for the curvature of the Earth.
Account? Surely we can measure the curving ground directly.
@@DrEMichaelJonesIt's harder to measure a rectangle accurately when the rectangle is curving, same reason you can't get an accurate flat map of the earth without weird stretching
@@DrEMichaelJonesI think you underestimate how big the planet is
@@TAZEROXFORD it's 2024, surely we have the equipment necessary to measure curving ground
@@YoursTrulyAudrey rectangles don't curve
Actual surveyor here, we 100% do account for the curve of the earth in many sutuations...
is there situations where u don't, and if so wats the cut off point of when u account for the curvature vs wen u don't
@@lolidemon3163 There's planar surveying for small areas like construction sites. Which uses simplified methods that do not necessarily include corrections in math. But still, the methods are designed the way, so curve of the Earth does not spoil the measurements.
For example, differential leveling (transferring level from one point to another) is done like there was no curve - simply "I'm 3 ft above the other place with known elevation". But it is done in very small steps (~100ft), so curve does not introduce any measurable difference. Which is then repeated until the "far end" is reached. At each point you use leveled measuring device. It is similar to drawing a circle with short lines with each of them being correctly aligned with the desired circle. There's and error in each of them, but so small, it is not even measurable.
The planar surveying is limited to roughly ~10 miles of distance (100 miles squared). After that curvature of the Earths starts to be a significant factor.
However, when you at some specific buildings - like LIGO for example. LIGO is two perpendicular arms of 4 km (~2.5 miles) long perfectly straight tunnels containing vacuum tubes. It is a government funded scientific project, so its complete construction documentation is freely available and there are two of them - Hanford and Livingston, both sites have documentation available. From it, it is possible to see, that those straight tunnels start at one elevation which first decreases and then starts to increase again. Even though it is less than 10 miles and planar surveying would be sufficient, builders had to account for Earth's curve, so the arms could remain straight.
@@lolidemon3163interesting question. I would guess it’ll also depend on what project you’re surveying for
Many years ago I was working on a small project where I wrote code that would make some calculations based on GPS coordinates. What I've noticed was that the error for the distances between two points was getting larger the further the points were apart. Also, the lines my code was generating were not quite the shape I expected them to be. I was erroneously calculating stuff without taking into account the curvature of the Earth, when I changed the formulas I was using everything just fell into place.
Bottom line is that the curvature of the planet has to be considered for way smaller scales than what I thought.
I used the play an AR game called ingress, the basic idea was to link three points in the real world together in the game to create a triangle field that you control.
One of the rules is links can't cross, this would be frustrating sometimes as the game display didn't account for curve so when it came to long links the display would show them crossed because there was no other way to display them correctly at that build of the game, the work around was a live online map that shows a world map with all the links and triangle fields. The first thing you notice is the longer the link the more curved it's is.
"are you a flat earther, or a glober?"
Neither.
Its a cube.
what if it's a triangle?
timecube gang rise up
minecraft
Finally, my fellow cubers make themselves known......
Hate to break the news to you as well it’s a ring
A couple of ancient Greek dudes with some sticks and dirt were able to figure this out and yet we have 10 million idiots with the power of the internet echo chamber here thinking they know what tf they are talking about
normal people can prove the globe with sticks and dirt too, it's called a sundial
@@someonerandom704 r/woosh
I live where it’s so flat and empty, there are places where you can turn around and see a nearly 360 horizon that obviously dips down. Yet we have loads of FEs.
\ imagine not knowing the "math equations & formulas" for those sticks & shadows work on a flat earth too, with a small close local sun. Imagine also not knowing even neil degrasse tyson said that the math works the same with a small close local sun. in his Star Talk video. Imagine also, not knowing in that same video neil even said 2 sticks does not work to prove a globe or curve and that at least 3 sticks were needed. Imagine also, not knowing your sci-fi puppet V-sauce also literally said, and i quote, "The math works the same", right in the middle section of his flat earth video called something like "Is the earth flat".
Go back to bed Sleepwalker.
@@MrBuzzin14 i dont think he didnt get it he just said that were able to run the same experiment as the ancient greeks
Curvature actually does start to make a difference on your lengthier projects, like intercontinental railroads and some interstate highways. It doesn't affect construction techniques in the field, but curvature can begin to affect the amount of materials needed, the true travel distance along the ground for the train, and really just cost factors overall. Basically if you've got to do any accounting in the books for construction or maintenance on a super long stretch of infrastructure, you're going to be accounting for curvature too.
As someone who has a telescope, loves doing astrophotography, and is pursuing my degree in astrophysics, it really just frustrates me when real data; images captured, are just waved away and called "CGI". Why is it automatically CGI? Is it maybe because it's a different look at nature the human mind isn't used to on a day to day basis? Astrophotography is NOT easy, it takes multiple nights of multiple hours capturing multiple exposures, and that's not even including stacking the frames / exposures and the post processing and editing itself, all usually taking up to a full day on the computer. Maybe it's considered CGI because we use COMPUTERS to capture, process, and edit the data? But that doesn't mean CGI AI generated bullshit. That just means using modern technology and advanced techniques to make things invisible to the human eye, visible.
Also, for flat Earthers, there's two different types of telescope mounts in astronomy. Alt Az mounts can track something with an X and Y horizontal and vertical axis. These are a lot cheaper compared to the more advanced equatorial mounts, that rotate with the earth throughout the night once aligned with Polaris (North Star). If you use the cheaper Alt Az mount, you will experience field rotation because........ the Earth is a spinning globe. Guess what happens when you polar align an equatorial mount that rotates with the Earth? No field rotation. It's crazy how mathematics and science just work isn't it?
Nah. CGI.
Did you ever see the earth from a different planet ? NO then maybe it is CGI it all spins around the earth at the north star
If you’re not using a Sony P1000, nothing you are doing will be considered anything other than cgi.
@ really hope this is a troll comment
it is. its a running joke in the anti flat earther community.
I couldn’t agree more
Anything in science labelled as "theory" basically means a model that has been rigourously tested and provides the best way to understand reality
Right, and the theory of gravity isn't about whether gravity exists or not, we KNOW it exists. But the reasons as to why mass attracts mass & how that creates gravity are still theoretical.
@@corey2232 Einstein's theory of general relativity gives a pretty solid and evidence supported basis for how gravity works, it's just that the term "law" has fallen out of favor since nothing is ever truly final. The current debate is over whether we need an updated model of gravity to explain some of the interactions we see on the massive scale of galaxy clusters or if Dark Matter exists and is sufficient to explain it.
Also worth noting that a theory can make predictions! Its not a theory if it can’t make predictions
@@Cloudsurfer69 Adding on, general relativity has some scarily accurate predictions that has only been proven relatively recently like gravitational waves and the image of a black hole, but it can't be *the* explanation for gravity cause once you go into quantum mechanics, GR doesn't play as nicely
Uh, you got the wrong understanding what theory in sciences actually is. Like Newton's Classical Mechanics Theory, it explains a lot of things and it is also technically incorrect as it contradics other things (relativity and Quantum).
I remember back a few years ago, one FlatEarth dude went out with *_heavy and heavily scientific equipment_* and also recorded himself for YT while documenting his findings.
He ended up _accidentally_ proving the earth being round while no shot using legit and correct attempts in measuring and mathing out what he did like a normal scientist would
There is also a flat earther that after Bobs Knodel embarrassing Gyroscope confirmation of the earth rotation, meade a mechanical gyro, because they think anything tech related is controlled by the elites hiding the plane, and the mechanical gyro proved again, the rotating, THEN bob Knodel sued that flat earth in order to preserve his scam cult
And did he change his mind about flat earth?
@@KrzychuYea he did not. Dude just waved it away like that Scroll of Truth meme.
Is that Bob the "15° per hour drift"?
@@ak_nora yep
flat earthers are just aliens trying to troll us
That's the sad part. It doesn't matter how many time you shut them down, they are just going to keep moving the goal post.
It’s because they’re grifters who don’t actually believe the crud they’re spouting.
I know, right. LOL.
As bad as religious people
It is a type of religion for them I believe.
@@eyuin5716No, I think a lot of them actually believe. Or at the very least, tell themselves they believe and find their identity in that belief.
you're all wrong the earth isn´t flat or round
it's fucked
- Ricky, Trailer Park Boys -
damn, no wonder volcanos are stinky, its where the earth releases it's gas
So it's a donut..
Ricky- Rocket Surgeon
Why is flat earth even a thing to be proven wrong ?! Shouldn’t be a argument
Because people are stupid.
You’re clearly paid by the government
Youre closing your eyes to the truth, operation fishbowl proved we are all living in a multidimensional snow globe where Santa can watch us all to see if weve been good or bad.
Because it makes some really pathetic people feel special to go against the grain of society
@africansavagekd1you been tryna become a youtuber for 7 years bro, its time to quit trying
One thing I’ve NEVER understood about Flat Earthers is when they say that the government is trying to hide us all from knowing the truth of it being flat! Like what difference will it make knowing whether or not it’s flat or a globe!!
Globe earth?… Cool *carries on with normal life
Flat earth?… Cool *carries on with normal life
I of course do believe it’s a globe!
The difference is sun. In flat earth system sun is not a nuclear fusion fire far away. So what is it
@@Globeisaahoax”nuclear fusion fire”
Nuclear fusion and fire are two different things. Anyways explain the 24hr sun.
There would be plenty of reasons. It would hide intelligent design or “god” for that matter, where people would think they’re just monkeys in a floating rock spinning 666thousans miles
If you feel bad remember a flat earther spent 20k dollars on a ring laser gyroscope to dissaprove the rotation of the earth, it gave them the correct reading for the rotation of the earth in one hour.
The utter clown said "heavenly energies" influenced the final result
RIP to that guy!
He's right actually, the heavenly energies (gravity) are the reason why the earth is a sphere!
And then they put it in a box to block said heavenly energies and it still proved them wrong 💀
15 degrees per hour.....
Interesting 😂
Like the other guy who tried to use line of sight through a hole between two points at the same elevation to prove flatness and only managed to demonstrate the curve, called it "interesting" and then tried to claim that there was some shrubbery in the way or smth like that 😂
dude, its so cool youre covering this. the flerf cope has been insane
Yooo cameo !! This is that time that flerdopia dies and I was here !!
Hello FTFE
@VisualAuditoryHillucinationsOf heyya
@@FTFEOfficial I wish I could be an investor of Copium, Cryenol and Sadvil, many flerfs are using a lot.
@@FutureWorldX Also Dimwittol and Narcissium or Importantin are at extremely high demand.
Great, now the flerfs are going to start saying that globe-Earth is an Islamic conspiracy.
I mean if they're smart, they shouldn't involve the Islams in any sort of controversy.
They already do! Many flat earthers are fundamental Christian, and they literally believe islam is a "satanic deception"
Which i find very ironic, because fundamental muslims say the same thing about them 😂
This is what happens when people stop using logic.
Well, Islam in the past used to think that the earth is flat so..
@@arikadogenya527 you said that but Islamic scholar thousands years ago agree that Earth is spherical…
@@imPKKer no, they first agreed that the earth is flat at first and only changing their mind as technology progress
flerfer: ERF IS FLAT!
normal people: hey, you got GPS on your phone?
flerfer: yes...?
normal people: ok. *walks away*
Hey Muta, do you know about the massive security flaw in the flat earth app? The entire database is exposed to the internet, and can be retrieved just by posting a request to the server. This information includes every user's names, emails, their GPS location (if they've used the friend finder), and their password, stored in plaintext, no salt and no hash. Dave has been made aware of this, and rather than fixing the bug, or pulling the app from the app store, has instead elected to ignore the issue, and claim that it isn't a big deal.
i knew they were stupid, but not that stupid
Seems par for the course to look at facts and deny 'em, tbh.
Password in plaintext 🤦♂
They shifted the goalposts as soon as the trip was announced. All the flat Earther's used to say the 24 hour sun was impossible, before the trip even happened they started backpedaling and trying to say they never said that.
This conspiracy becomes one's entire identity, so it's hard to depart from.
@lukec3679 not to mention their entire income...
Man they are saying now that the 24 hour sun proves flat earth. lol
@@HutchDudandy1 the funniest part is, if you go back about a year or so, you can find each and every one of them saying that the 24 hour sun is IMPOSSIBLE on the flat earth.
actually it was a lack of evidence for 24 hr sun as all the footage was edited and spliced. 24 hr sun still works on a FE.
Average flat earther experience
Yeah this is nothing new
based mega man
wheres giant monsters and dragons into the mix?
Until Google put that blue box there, I was on team globe Earth. Because on everything else, it's literally misinformation they put out.
3:00 that's such a lie. As a civil engineer student I've been told at least two times that the earth's curvature needs to be accounted for, once when the topic of large bridges came up and once in a course on surveying.
What's the minimum size of the construction for the curvature of the earth to enter the equation?
@@Ironica82 he doesn't know since shi-, poster
@@Ironica82when a bridge or tunnel is more than a few miles they have to start calculating with earths curvature in account, otherwise your calculations start to hit the shit can
@@edwinvillalobos7159 Thanks for the info.
@@Ironica82when constructing the death star duh? Dont be silly
It is SO TELLING that all the dumbasses who said there was no 24 Hour Sun IMMEDIATELY backtracked when given a free trip to Antarctica to find out.
Of course, they obviously know they're wrong and will do absolutely anything except go out and prove the earth is flat, which will lead to reality hitting them like a brick
its called being delusional
All they wanted was an excuse to fly to Antarctica
You cant ever admit to being wrong
wait who backtracked? like 6-8 flat earthers went
Hello, Union 3 Surveyor here. As a surveyor I do have to calculate the curvature of the earth. Some jobsites run miles and checking distances over miles the curvature of the earth does affect our measurements, so they are factored into our calculations.
Video starts at 14:50
A wise man once said “Never Argue With a Fool, Onlookers May Not Be Able To Tell the Difference”.
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you dawn to their level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain
was the wise man Captain Capital?
@ wish it was Mark Twain but alas it wasnt.
Wait? A free trip too Antarctica?
I think im gonna start a flat earth TH-cam channel.
if you wanna do that talk about how this invisible dome that holds in all of our air called the firmament exists and how it it's reasonable for all the rocket ship fails, firework explosions and how it destroyed all the nukes that Putin sent us
People hear "Theory of Gravity" and think, "Wait, so all of gravity is up for debate?"
No. The theory of gravity is concerned with what causes gravity rather than whether or not gravity exists.
Yeah, people don't know the difference between the scientific use of the word "theory" and the colloquial use. I'm constantly having to explain it to people.
Still not quite. The "theory" of gravity refers to the fact that the evidence for gravity is extremely well founded and well supported with evidence. In the past, this would be called a "law", but that term has fallen out of favor. What causes gravity is also pretty well established by Einstein's THEORY of general relativity, it is just often misunderstood. However, that, just like his field equations and Newton's gravitational equations are always up for debate in the sense that if new observation does not match the prediction, a new model may be in order or supplemental information may be needed to explain the observation under the current model. This is seen in the current debate over if Dark Matter exists or if we need a modified model of gravity to explain some of the behaviors we see on the massive scale of galaxies and galaxy clusters, where Einstein's field equations make some inaccurate predictions, if Dark Matter doesn't exist.
This is just like the debate and discoveries that prompted Einstein to develop his theory of general relativity, such as the observation of the procession of the orbit of Mercury, which Newton's equations did not predict accurately, but Einstein's field equations do predict accurately.
Flerfs like to use this and the current debate to throw away the entire notion of gravity, despite the fact that Einstein's field equations reduce to Newton's equations on small scales, Newton's equations are correct on everything up to the scale of objects moving at relativistic speeds or being very close to super massive objects like stars, and Einstein's field equations make accurate predictions up to the scale of some interactions within galaxies and multi galaxy clusters.
@bobbobert9379 Please prove gravity without a mathemagical equation.
🍑🤖 y'all. How did you guys fell for it 🤦♂
@@bobbobert9379 Relativity does not "cause" gravity. It's still "only" an explanation of it's effects. We still do not know exactly what causes mass to attract mass. At least as far as I know.
your laugh on the question of gravity is just perfect, thank you
The flat earther Jeranism, accidentally proved curvature in a documentary trying to debunk the globe. He said “interesting”. And then later removed the video.
jeran's arms are not 6 feet long for one thing. so he could not have raised up the light that far that was stated on their tests. i dont remember the exact feet. maybe from 17 to 24 feet i think. anyways i remember it was 6 feet difference when him and enrique went to raise the light up more. NightyNite sleepwalker.
He also recorded the ISS and then removed that video too
So when Jeran gets back home will he say "interesting" again in regards to TFE and continue on with his flat earth journey? Or find another conspiracy?
@@fedogma8407 He will play on the plausible deniability of saying "well, i just said there was a 24hr sun. Never said the earth is a globe". Then continue his grift
@@mikeflatbird729 wrong. The correct globe prediction was to see the light at 19.5ft above water level factoring in moderate refraction. That’s where it was seen. Flat earth was lower than that.
>make circle in paint
>zoom in on circle perimeter
>looks flat
A big problem with flat-earthers is their complete inability to grasp the scale of the earth
In science, a "Theory" doesn't mean "I think this is what happens". A "Theory" in science is an explanation of something that has already been tested, observed, proven, etc. What we usually call "theory" in every day life is what scientists call a "Hypotheses". The "gravitational theory" is what explains gravity, not a hunch.
The theory doesn't try to prove whether it exists, but how it works
25:23 Can I just become a flat earther channel to take the trip to Antarctica?
I said the same shit when he said that lol
I'm flat rather too now. Where do I sign up for the trip?
They've already been in Antarctica for a few days now, guys. Maybe next year. lol
Bro it sucks there you dont want to go 😂
@jessebb193 it's free 30k holiday pack FFS bragging rights and all, if nothing else 🙄
It's honestly incredible how people from ancient times able to comprehend that the earth is spherical without technologies as advanced as ours while lots of people in our generation struggle to do the same even with the technology we have.
I feel like these people just need to be contrarian
@@rosesweetcharlotte No, it's due to the massive distrust in our governments, which is 100% understandable. What isn't understandable though, is when they can and HAVE done experiments to try and prove the flat earth BS by themselves, they still choose to be delusional, even if the proof is literally in front of them.d
Because most of everything is already solved for us, no one wants to think and all they can do is just either except or deny things. Add to that more of these people can communicate and there you go. I fear for the post AI misinfo generation
They don’t struggle, they just don’t want.
@rosesweetcharlotte That would only make sense if being a flat earther didn't carry such a social stigma. Who would align themselves with the most hated demographic on earth just to be contrarian? Ask 100 flat earthers if they lost the affections of family or friends and 90% of them will tell you yes. The problem is that your side almost never comes to our side for information. You get your info from the people who support your beliefs. Most flerfers once believed everything that your side believes.
My favorite flat earth proof is that crudely drawn picture of 2 shoes. One that's flat on the bottom and the other with a heavy concave shape. Followed by the caption, "If the earth was round, how come the bottom of shoes are shaped like THIS and not like THAT."
For your opening... flat Earth is not a belief, it's measured that way.
The issue with flat earthers, is that none of them believe in the same thing. They all have different beliefs on the shape, ice walls, secret land, space, planets, etc.
Yeah and you believe in spinning ball that has other spinning balls spinning around them and spinning themselves , yeah makes total logical sense
@ is the moon and sun flat?
@@omarsuarez2444 no the moon and sun go around on this still earth do a test of perception when you see the sun going down it is actually moving away
@@WyzszaKalibracjaPerspektyw are they spheres, answer the question?
And it doesnt matter to them lol, They dont have a true model, never had. They have separate models to "explain" different phenomenons, but never an unified one.
Eclipses are impossible on a flat earth
Flat Earth basketball fans when they can't watch the Harlem Planetrotters.
😂😭😭
3:26 can I just say, Professor Dave is an absolute GOAT. This dude single-handedly saved me and all my friends in our organic chemistry courses lol
can be a bit of an ass, but his approach does seem to work wonders. Him going against the DI is hilarious
With info just from his youtube channel?
@@XraynPR He's certainly abrasive but it's somewhat understandable considering the kind of belligerence he has to call out daily.
@hesido yes, he has a ton of videos about organic chemistry, instrumental analytics, etc. If I'm not mistaken he used to teach organic chemistry in a college/university at some point.
It is his title - BA in chemistry.
You don't need to read anything more, he is a clown (even if he takes the lowest hanging fruit and "debunks" a social group which has been debunked at least the same amount of times as some commenters saying that Dave is a professor xD).
tl;dr - Dave is a nobody with an opinion.
Still believing in a flat or globe earth is hilarious when the answer is right in front of us. The earth is very clearly an octahedron atop truncated tetrahedron shape.
And buyden is a clone
Flat earth is not worth arguing about because of how dumb it sounds
but it's fun to laugh at their own stupidity
It's fun to Google stuff like holes in the theory of gravity as a starting point to make a flat earth argument and make an average person do brain bending research to counter back. I don't think most flat earthers are real. It's just fun to troll with
That and they have already decided upon believing that the earth is flat so no amount of scientific proof will change their mind.
@@wingusdingus9447Yeah because Google is the arbiter of truth! 🙄
My favorite argument for the question “why would people keep lying about it” is that it is because they would have to change all the text books and globes for schools. And I’m like, “yeah because no company would want to have every single customer have to rebuy everything they sell. Nevermind that school textbooks change/update regularly” 😂
Big corporation deny the chance to make money is frankly more unbelievable then flat earth- then again, apparently they believe both.
Book re-editions are as believable to them as the earth curvature
So glad large commentary channels are covering this. I have been following this since 2021 and it is just incredibly entertaining.
Yeah lets have people that sit inside and play video games all day tell us what we should believe, great.
@@craciunator99 take the trip bro
@@craciunator99If you're bad that Muta is telling us that the earth is round, you should be more mad that the schooling system is also teaching us that same thing.
@@MayorofGaming Not interested
Same here! Did not expect this from Muta
First time watching your video, enjoyed every minute.
I live in Northern Finland. I don't need to go to Antarctica to experience the midnight sun. I see it every summer.
LIES! WE have midnight sun in OUR summer therefore YOU cant because.... summer and summer and you live on the opposite side and thats not very pancakey.
Thats cold🥶🥶🥶🥶
Jesus loves you!❤✝️Repent
thats why they went to the south pole. Even flat earthers cant deny the 24h sun in the north. There being a 24h sun both south and north really is a problem for their "model" though
The flat earth model has an answer to a 24 hour sun in the north. It just can't explain one at the Southern pole. They think Antarctica is a "ring" of ice that forms the outer rim of the flat earth. That's why they went there instead of to the Artic in the northern Summer.
This is true! A quarter of Finland's territory lies north of the Arctic Circle, and at the country's northernmost point the Sun does not set at all for 72 days during summer. Usually May to August, while further south the sun can be visible for nearly around the clock during June and July.
The flat earth community: “The guys representing the flat earth community were paid actors and the Antarctica video is fake”
True
And they still won't fully admit that Earth isn't flat.
If the earth was flat, explain how my life has gone down hill consistently since i got here
Imagine being able to see the curvature of the earth's surface and still think we live on a flat disk
Denial beyond comprehension… flat earthers summed up.
@erlendvageskar3356 I mean you can see it with your own eyes from a mountain top or when travelling over plains
That railway picture cracked me up because the picture they used to prove themselves literally disapproves their theory.
Funny thing is, a round disc would still have curvature 😂
@@clementjThat is....actually a clever statement took me a while to get it
They'll still live in denial because you can't argue with faith.
Literally a waste of breath.
@@strange-universe i think a lot believe in the firmament stuff. which is religion based.
Blind faith & closed-mindedness are such annoying problems, and I say that as a religious person myself.
Yes they believe earth is an infinite plane past Antartica is even more Land.... and the sun is lamp so essentially we're living in gaint antfarm.😂
@@lazyratto which is dumb because the word is expanse, not firmament.
Read any NIV of the Bible
@@gorgeousfreeman1318
Aye but they'll take anything out of context to fit their narrative.
The internet did this. We Progressed so far as a society just to have tic tok to bring us back to an pre ancient Greek understanding of the world.
Insane really
Flat Earthers have been around before Tik Tok. This ain't on them.
@@pepsigotdanghare lmfao yeah but there influences was localized. The internet now and day any idiot can jump on social media and watch a short they feel deeply about (popularized by TikTok)
@@raynersclips4223shorts were popular before tik tok too, I think you just want to have an excuse to gripe about tik tok on an unrelated topic
Flat earthers were infamous for their stupidity before even smartphones. I think you're overestimating.
Most flat earth "proofs" are simply showing that the earth is locally flat, which is a well known property of spheres and in fact all differentiable manifolds.
The engineers of the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge had to take into account the curvature of the Earth.
"So if Earth is flat, does that mean all the other planets in our solar system are flat too?"
Flat Earther: "Uh, no. The other planets are globes, but Earth is flat."
Okey dokey.
Some flat earthers don’t believe that Earth is a planet. Talked to one that thought it was a dimension.
@kolelamont8728 😂😂😂
no cuz space is fake. obviously you haven't looked into flat earth
bold of you to assume they believe in space too
The other planer are not round because they dont exist, they are light in the dome place by God and maintained by illuminati engineers. To hide the fact that there are more lands beyond the ice wall, that only the elites go there with Nazi submarines and slave extraterrestrial humans, because they are outside earth, and get more resources and money from that.
....sounds like satire but they say all of these things...
I believe in shawarma Earth theory. The Earth is a conical ellipse with a round radius on its point. It orbits on its axis like a shawarma rotisserie.
Finally someone said it
Sorry, but I prefer a hat shaped Earth, it is more stylish and prettier when compared to the rest of the universe.
- When the video ended, Mutahar fell off his chair and laid there laughing hysterically for another hour 🤣
Love the shoutout for Professor Dave! He’s a good faith truth teller and grifter destroyer. Big props to him!
Not to mention his excellent physics and mathematics courses, he truly is a blessing
he's very immature actually, ever seen him trying to have a debate with someone? He rather becomes personal, being offensive, insulting, instead of being a level headed scientist lol please don't look up to idiots.. there are many more people who ARE able to be level headed scientists
@ He’s not an idiot. Do you think he doesn’t offer good facts? He’s very factual when he debates. I’ve been able to watch him and get inspired to do my own research about topics. When I do my own research it aligns with the facts he gives. What does he get wrong?
@@I.Am.Nobody This was seen when he got into the Trans stuff. Dude lost me there and just went off the deep end.
@I.Am.Nobody I wouldn’t call it immaturity, so much as a deep-seated disdain for stupidity, real or perceived. He does tend to strawman and mock anti-intellectuals, and I’ll admit I’m not a fan of the degree to which he does that, but I can’t say I don’t understand where he’s coming from. If I could name one science educator that I wish people like Dave and Thunderf00t would emulate, it would probably be Clint’s Reptiles (evolutionary biology), or maybe Kyle Hill (nuclear energy and radiation).
I've followed Creaky Blinder, SciMan Dan, Prof. Dave, and the countless other creators in the debunk community for years, some of them, like MC Toon, in Antarctica as we speak. I was so stoked to hear about the Final Experiment made possible thanks to Will Duffy.
Jeran is also down there as well. He just pissed off his followers when he came out and admitted to seeing the 24 hour sun.
Have they left yet? When do they leave? I hope they’re enjoying it
@@VisualAuditoryHillucinationsOf 17th December was their last day, so they are travelling back home because they got most of the videos, footage and data.
They actually DO account for the curvature of the earth when digging long tunnels.
right said "long".
engineers also account for curvature when building long bridges
@@keeferChieferPilots also have to account it when flying, Sailors have to account for it when sailing thanks to the Earth spinning.
NEWS FLASH GLOBERS: THE EARTH IS STILL SCIENTIFICALLY MEASURED FLAT, NO MATTER HOW THE LIGHTS IN THE SKY MOVE.
THANKS FOR PLAYING.
An uncle of mine is a flat earther and the amount of times hed proven himself wrong, but got mad over it is absolutely ridiculous. I remember the last time I stayed at his house....he showed me a video of a rocket flying up into the atmosphere, it stopped suddenly, like it hit something, and he grew a big smile on his face saying "See? We live in a dome, and the earth is flat, theres no curve on the camera at all"
Until I brought up the fact that any kind of rocket trying to take off into space would have a curved top and the rocket would have shot off into a different direction if it really did hit something. He changed his mind and said it mustve been something with a liquid like state, and i just said even if it was a liquid, like even oobleck, at the speed it was going, it still wouldve refracted off and went a different direction, or even slanted in whatever it buried itself into...Plus it was full of rocket feul, so it would have exploded on impact.
He got so mad at me he sent me back home that day, and I dont talk to him much anymore, all over that one specific argument. Idk if anyone can find the video im talking about but I just remember it saying some shit like "hitting the dome in 3..2..1... n then it stops.
I think I know that video. It did a anti-spin maneuver to stop spinning, it did not actually hit anything or it should have disintegrated into bits 😂
@@jomariano37 Do you remember what its called?
@@leechion2933 had to search YT for it...i think it is called a Yo-Yo de-spin.
I'm a flat-earther ONLY because I get free science lessons from people. I know I'm a liar but getting free knowledge is awesome.
sigma grindset type shit.
flat earthers be crying in the comments
Nah, let's ne real. They will spout more bs and say something like "Nah these people that have been in the Flat Earth community for years are actually just paid actors and also this video is fake"
I think flat earthers are just master class trolls.
I had a co worker once who believes in flat earth. She would come up with all these wild theories and say it with a straight face that i just couldnt tell if she actually believed it, or if she just wants to troll. She was always trilling on other things, so it just made it difficult to truly know when she was genuine or not.
I’m a cube earther Muta, no I will not elaborate
EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE
WITHIN SINGLE ROTATION.
@@ITotallyGetThat no need to try and explain, it just is
ok....... Borg you wont assimilate us.
Borg?
@@ITotallyGetThat a cube has 8 corners
I'm seriously considering pretending to be a flat earther just to get a trip to antarctica.
They already went. You're a few months too late 😅
@@clementj maybe if you cause enough of a racket a second expedition will be planned
The earth _is_ flat tho, it's just that gravity warps spacetime to a Non-Euclidian elyptic geometry - characterised by the Riemann Tensor - giving the illusory appearance of an oblate spheroid 😏
@@TheYahmez hmm, those are some big words, you'll need a space expedition instead
What if they just took them and dumped them there?
Flat earthers are not an answer but a question, and the answer for it is always no
One correction. A scientific theory is not a theory like the dictionary definition. It isnt a guess or an idea. That would be a hypothesis. A "theory" in this context is basically an explanation for a concept using scientific laws. A scientific theory never becomes a scientific law they are seperate. Individual laws make up the theory
I live in Louisiana, north of NOLA... you literally can see the curve driving the Causeway or the Twin Spans. These people floor me. It's not hard to debunk, they just refuse to accept reality.
Flat earthers feel like trolls until you realize they are serious 😢
Starting my "Flat-Earth" channel today just to get that free trip to Antarctica next year lol
Lmao
1:01 i'm a toroid earth enthusiast
im moreso into pyramid earth myself
im more into the 5-dimensional hypersphere earth theory
We're inside roblox
Only earth and Uranus is flat planets in our universe.
I’m a dodecahedron earth enthusiast 😂
Some flat earthers thought it was a giant green screen 😂
They were not really at the Antarctica continents 😅
There are a lot of agents who make us look stupid
Shouldve used their flat earth app to see for sure
Will Duffy accidentally left his greenscreen chroma key setting on, in his first video in Antarctica. This is because he had previously used a greenscreen-- before going to Antarctica. The greenscreen was for the TFE logo, which showed up in the video in Antarctica, on a green patch on someone's coat. If a greenscreen had been used to fake the Antarctica background, then the Antarctica background would have shown up on the guy's coat instead of the TFE logo. This is all very simple when explained in context, but flat-earthers are desperate to reject TFE as a hoax.
here before they deploy bots
A Flat Earther's primary daily activities most often includes accidentally proving that the Earth is round.
The gravity argument is so ridiculous because buoyancy is only possible because of GRAVITY! 😂 🤦♂️
Hearing such arguments always cracks me up lmao
A flat earth map app powered by satellites 🤦♂️
2:50: You're arguing against a falsehood under the assumption that the statement is true. The fact of the matter is that engineers actually do take it into account when relevant, such as when building long bridges or tunnels.
You all are so behind, I'm on Hotdog Earth. And don't even get me started on Ketchup or Mustard, every self-respecting Hotdog Earther knows which configuration is right.
If I was in charge, flat earthers would be digging ditches.
"You wanna see how gravity is real? Look at this shit - I can jump up, then I can JUMP back down"
And theyd tell ya "no that's just density" because they don't understand that the universe has no definition of 'down' without gravity.
People can’t accept the world is round because they can’t accept just how small they really are.
Nailed it
Or how massive the universe is and how we dont actually matter in he grand scheme of things
@@coffeebean_tamer that's a very bad view of it.
Relative perception like that leads to nihilism
Yes gravity is magic! It’s why Australians have to wear magnetic boots on metal roads so they don’t fall off the planet
I’d pretend to be a flat earther if it means I get a free ride into space to prove me wrong
Muta you should cover DITRH’s app’s security breach!
Yes! I am posting this to double vote. Also someone has looked into the code of the app that has a find other users feature. It uses the globe map to find other flat earthers 😂
A lot of flat earth beliefs come from religious beliefs. That’s why the whole thing originated in the USA. 😢
It doesn't, even old religious institutions knew the Earth was round-- their whole argument was the Sun orbited the Earth, not the other way around.
@@lillybyte bold of you to assume US Christians read their own religious texts
I mean, you spend most of your life being told what to believe by a person on a pulpit, and not take the time to investigate for yourself, you're way more likely to believe outlandish shit like this without a thought. Spoken as someone who saw the truth and danger of the religion grift from an early age and got out.
@@strange-universe They mention scripture a lot. The firmament and the glass dome above etc. etc.
@@billysgeo which is a mistranslation of expanse
Not to mention Steve-O went skydiving as high up as you can go commercially and even confirmed it himself earth is round
I'm glad the Flat Earthers played themselves, they make us Rectangular Prism Earthers look bad