Fantastic video I'll be honest when I was a kid and first saw this ship on TNG I absolutely hated it but over the years it has really grown on me and now is one of my top three favorites
I wasn't a fan of the Constellation class at first but since the re skinning and put in 4k resolution, I would put the Stargazer on my list of favorite Federation starships. The Stargazer never looked better. Awesome job.
Hated it too as a kid watching TNG as it looked so old and 23rd century so was clearly not as cools as the galaxy era ships. As an adult with a refined pallet I know I was very very wrong
I like it. It's a more practical and sensible design than the Constitution imho. The thicker saucer section and complete lack of the engineering secondary hull or overly long and thin connection pylons means it's more spacious inside and easier to maintain.
The Constellation-class were ships Starfleet needed and did whatever task it was asked to do very well but it never gets the real recognition it deserves. Glad you gave em' a proper send off.
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I like the quad warp nacelle design and it makes good sense why Starfleet would play with that design. What I never understood is the THREE warp nacelle design and...if I'm gonna be honest, that design looks goofy and pretty tacky.
They operate under the same principle as four nacelle designs, that the extra nacelle allows for a tighter warp field and extra added warp protection... Personally, I've loved MANY three nacelle designs!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the Constellation Class Starship and on all of her various functions, abilities and performance and on her engine's capabilites and that of her weapons systems and shielding availability and of all her various duties and missions required of her as well, And on the various other designs of the quad engined designed Starship's; A job very nicely fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.
Thanks, though it's not my take on it, it's Canon and Beta Canon's take on it... Just most people (Including myself) assumed they were shuttlebays and that was that! No one bothers to research this apparently :P
i remember back when the Stargazer was introdused in TNG, i didnt like that ship class at all, but over the years i learned its capabilities, an actually got to know her trought the books, i began to love that class.
I also love The evolutionary process. The ships of the Rough and Tumble cowboy era of the original series movies are my favorite types of ship especially Excelsior and other classes
This was another amazing video. Just superb story telling. Would you consider doing a story on special auxiliary craft of different vessels? Like the Enterprise D Cousteau or Voyager's aeroshuttle?
YaS, my favourite!!!!!! Did not know about the rest of the shuttle bay's though, always thought they just were full of planetary surveying shuttles and repair craft but yea very cool! In Star Trek: Online "yes going back to this" Wich the addition of Wil Wheaton as the Terran Emperor has given this new life for me I've always tries to have a Constellation, where originally it was a Stargazer class or something, but when they brought out the Constellation class finally, I had to get it! That ship has served me well for years (in game) Did a Tri thing of creating my own canon for as why it remained in service. Even purchased the 12" model and a few years later they put more detail in the way she looked, so still have to get another one.
A very clever design as an Excelsior backup.A long distance exploration cruiser using all 4 nacelles st medium warp to prevent nacelle burnout at high speeds.The shuttle bays could be used for rescue and retrieval missions.
I remember seeing this in its original run when I was into starship models by Revel and whomever. I could tell right away it was a kitbash, but a an interesting one and one I wished they’d made a model of when I was still doing it.
I love the videos on the different classes of starship. It reminds me of the different classes that I make for my own artworks. There's rationale and reason for design in general and I like how designs evolved. Each of these videos gives a plausible Foundation for how these ships came to be in the first place as well as the characters of the societies that build them. Not just in the Federation but anywhere in the known universe.
I never really understood why a ship with 4 warp nacelles and 4 or 2 sets of you will of impulse engines can be considered underpowered. Only thing I can think of is the warp core was too small/not suitable but I can't see that happening really.
Great storytelling as always and you did a superb job with this 3D model! When I first saw this ship on TNG I was blown away by its overall design, it looked so bulky and clunky but has multiple functions and fits the personality of Picard to a tee 😆 The Constellation class will always be solidified in the expansion of the Star Trek universe! This video was wonderful, absolutely WONDERFUL!!🖖⭐👍❤⭐⭐ Thank You🤗
Love this design. When Picard was looking for a starship in season 1 I wished he would have grabbed the Stargazer from the decommission yard. Would have been entertaining that it would always need some duct tape to hold together.
I'm more into the looks of the Sagan class version of the Stargazer. This original Constellation class has a weirdly thick saucer and the connection point for the nacelles just worsens the look of the saucer section.
Would make a good medical ship too with all those bays even colony ship I wouldn’t class as a carrier it’s to small tho be good for light carrier but like you said research labs litterly just tow object into say bay if can’t risk transporters or such
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios sto when I do fly mine I use the medical shields tho I wish they would revamp the shields visuals as with the sheild equipped as visuals it should replace fleet logo with medical logo tho haven’t really even noticed the fleet logo but on other ships that you notice them they should replace the fleet logo with it luckily I’m a solo fleet so I can adjust my fleet logo accordingly for 3D printing :)
Couldnt agree more :) Of course, Im happy with any Star Trek shows.... BUT I would love an anthology one that could take place at any time, on any ship, season per season!
I really like the constellation class, if I commanded a Constellation class starship I want it to be called the USS Valhalla with the registry NCC 7123
Are the blue domes related to the impulse engines, which are nearby? The Excelsior also had a dome on the rear of its saucer hull in line with its red impulse exhausts, though different scale and distance.
I bet the constellation class rattled just like a GMC fishbowl Whenever it hit the most minor imperfection in space sort of like the GMC fish bowl bus. You could drop up hard piece of candy on the road and if the GMC fishbowl bus ran over it it would just rattle every part in it I imagine writing in a constellation class starship was a lot like that
Hello TriAngulum. I have always liked the Constellation Class. It is sturdy, long ranged, and useful. All the points you made about the eject-able lab areas are good ones... Although, for myself, I would have used the ship as a 'carrier' type vessel. Turning the labs into further shuttle bays. For exploration, such multiple shuttle bays would be very useful in charting and cataloging a newly discovered star system in record time, by flooding the system with specialty shuttles for that purpose. For warfare, the replacement of the vast majority of the shuttles with fighter craft, and armored shuttle craft, would make the ship a potent threat to any foe it encountered. As a Commander that wants the best he can get from any ship, I think I would have pressed to salvage a more powerful warp core to increase the ship's available overall power. Baring that, replacing the original core with several smaller cores might do the trick. If nothing else, it would give the warp cores the redundancy of the nacelles, which is a survival factor I can get behind and push for.
All Beta Canon supports that it is NOT a carier class! In fact, even logic and Canom support that it is not, as a carier vessel is never an exploration starship by mission profile!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios : You missed my point entirely. What I meant to point out was that with the lab areas devoted to more shuttle bays, the ship could more quickly explore a solar system, and with such an expanded number of bay areas, it could also be pressed into use as a carrier.
Oh no, I got your point, its just that it doesn't really make sense or jive with canon... As we see Starship sensors doing all the exploration work... So using shuttles for that purpose, just doesnt fit on so many levels!
I remember reading it used 2 nacelles and change over in warp on other 2 and take first pair off-line so it can stay in warp alot longer. In ways the ship could do longer distances and longer year runs before overhauls.
I disagree, as it's poor resources in to a starship class, that arent really necessary... And I'd hope in the future that wasting resources wasn't a thing ;) :P
There is this book that has a close date to when Constellation class came out ,But it is not dead on the date of when came out officially .Since it only mentioned the USS Hathaway ,And it was official cannon at time .Since the couple who wrote worked on Star Trek at the time .And his Michael and Denise Okadia if I correct on the names that is .Since they have a book that entire Star Trek timeline form the movies and tv shows of the time .And they wrote few other books on Star Trek as well .But if find the official Star trek timeline on history .
There are MANY beta canon sources that discuss the class and its launch date, which is 2275, and that makes a lot of sense! See sources such as Honor Blade, Hour of Fire, The Fallen etc!
I believe that the constellation was a late 23rd century interception cruiser designed to send any Romulan or klingon ship packing before it cause trouble
I always thought that the 4 nacells wasn't for speed, but instead for duration. Run 2 at max speed for the max rated time and then use the other two to rest and repair the ones that were just run. Kind of like how they use reactors on aircraft carriers some times.
My view of the 'Stellas: They came about after the New Paradigm warp engines (revised [TNG] warp factor calculation, 10 is absolute max) were devised. With the initial discovery of Cardassia, and the conflicts that ensued, Starfleet needed ships that could be assembled quickly, in large numbers, using older stockpiled parts. Previous efforts to use four nacelles had faltered because of the difficulty of balancing them all, given the limitations of the multitronic ship computers of the era, but with 24th century polytronics, it was feasible -- and there were a lot of FWF-type nacelles in storage. Four of these older nacelles HAD to be used per vessel, to even minimally match the power output and speed of the New Paradigm vessels, but 'Stellas were nonetheless faster and more capable than the Old Paradigm Excelsiors and Mirandas that otherwise filled the fleet. This is how they landed in the role of "Fleet workhorse", as opposed to the more glamorous -- but scarcer -- early next-gen builds such as the Ambassador and Narendra classes. Their ruggedness also contributed to them having longer service lives than many of the vessels they were contemporaries of.
Unfortunately, Canon has already proven your views to be incorrect... As the first of these starships was launched in 2275, LONG before the Warp Scale revision!
In my head canon the Constellation class was a reaction to the teething problems of the Excelsior class and awkward design of the Constitution class refit. Given the ongoing failures of the transwarp experiments Star Fleet’s ship designers were challenged to design a cruiser with capabilities meeting or exceeding the Constitution class refit or, at best, approaching those of the excelsior using the established technologies of the Constitution and Miranda class cruisers. This is why the four nacelle design was necessary, as it was the only way to get a warp field whose power was equivalent to the Excelsior’s using the only style nacelles. This design approach was largely successful with the four nacelle design having only two draw backs. First it was inefficient at low warp speeds, due to the power requirements of four nacelles operating in tandem. Second, that energy demand also left less power for the ships other systems. This is why the class was often derided as “underpowered and overworked”.
Well we saw the lead up in STIV, so Im not sure theres a story there at all tbh... For it to be a good story, it must have a start middle a climax and end... Theres no climax or end with the probes simple ability to disable the vessels. And creating a story of a fleet just getting together is not very exciting with no pay off!
I've actually just watched a couple of your older videos. One was the NX refit and the other on the Nova Class. Despite you feeling that the NX refit BETA was sub-par is thought it fitted nicely into what fans would expect. If anyone hasn't seen them then please look them up. I'll be honest I hated the NX, even though from the top she looks like my favourite Fed ship, the Akira. When the Secondary hull is added, it turns into a design I, not just like, but LOVE. I also like the background of the Nova, it fits well into the Federation ethos. If I haven't liked or bought into a narrative you've created for something then I've always felt free to explain why. But as I said two really nice videos, to anyone who hasn't seen them... please check them out.
I'm not sure how this class can be considered forgotten. Let us not forget the U.S.S. Stargazer, Jean-Luc Picard's first command. This, in and of itself, means that this class will never be forgotten. For shame.😕
Simple, it's never talked about, it's never really seen except as an old dilapidated vessel even though it was a very important class... Even fandom rarely talks about it... And as for Picard's history, I think you'd find MOST cadets and Officers more interested in his command of the FLAGSHIP of the Federation! Just like most people forget Churchills History prior to World War 2! You may not like it, but it's realistic!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios True. But. Picard may not have ever commanded the Enterprise-D if it weren't for his command of the Stargazer. If I'm not mistaken, there was an episode of TNG that looked at this very scenario. I believe Q was a big part of this. Perhaps you could make a review of this from a Beta Canon standpoint.
Yes and? Again, Churchill may never have been PM if he wasnt an admiral of the fleet first, yet most people don't know that... That's how history works... And no, TNG's scenario was about Picards Heart, not the Stargazer! Though mentioned, it wasnt anything major, nor would I say, did anyone really know about Picards Heart! :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Well, Beta Canon seems to me to differ from regular Canon stuff. I think what I'm really asking is that you do a kind of What if? thing with Picard. Like maybe, "What if Picard didn't take command of the Stargazer?" Because that was the moment that defined his later career. And isn't that what that episode in TNG kind of explored? I'd love to see your take on it.
This class of Ship has always intrigued me and I wish we had seen more of them.
Still LOTS of time!
Fantastic video I'll be honest when I was a kid and first saw this ship on TNG I absolutely hated it but over the years it has really grown on me and now is one of my top three favorites
Yes, it definitely grows on you ;)
I wasn't a fan of the Constellation class at first but since the re skinning and put in 4k resolution, I would put the Stargazer on my list of favorite Federation starships. The Stargazer never looked better. Awesome job.
Hated it too as a kid watching TNG as it looked so old and 23rd century so was clearly not as cools as the galaxy era ships. As an adult with a refined pallet I know I was very very wrong
I can never figure out if I like this ship or not. I like it sometimes and hate it other times. 🤷
Kind of like the exelisior to me
I like it. It's a more practical and sensible design than the Constitution imho. The thicker saucer section and complete lack of the engineering secondary hull or overly long and thin connection pylons means it's more spacious inside and easier to maintain.
Indeed VERY practical ;)
I really enjoy your story telling and tend to get drawn in every time !
Thank you so much! That's always awesome to hear :)
The Constellation-class were ships Starfleet needed and did whatever task it was asked to do very well but it never gets the real recognition it deserves. Glad you gave em' a proper send off.
I thought it was about time ;)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I like the quad warp nacelle design and it makes good sense why Starfleet would play with that design. What I never understood is the THREE warp nacelle design and...if I'm gonna be honest, that design looks goofy and pretty tacky.
They operate under the same principle as four nacelle designs, that the extra nacelle allows for a tighter warp field and extra added warp protection... Personally, I've loved MANY three nacelle designs!
You did a great job of designing this 3d model
Thank you so much!
I agree. It looks great.
This is incredibly detailed. Favorite of mine for sure
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the Constellation Class Starship and on all of her various functions, abilities and performance and on her engine's capabilites and that of her weapons systems and shielding availability and of all her various duties and missions required of her as well, And on the various other designs of the quad engined designed Starship's; A job very nicely fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.
I like this class of starship to bad we never saw more of them
Still LOTS of time!
An interesting take on the additional bay doors to be sure. Always been fond of this under-powered little ship and the associated Stargazer novels.
Thanks, though it's not my take on it, it's Canon and Beta Canon's take on it... Just most people (Including myself) assumed they were shuttlebays and that was that! No one bothers to research this apparently :P
i remember back when the Stargazer was introdused in TNG, i didnt like that ship class at all, but over the years i learned its capabilities, an actually got to know her trought the books, i began to love that class.
Ah the good old USS Hathaway. One of my favorite TNG episodes.
I also love The evolutionary process. The ships of the Rough and Tumble cowboy era of the original series movies are my favorite types of ship especially Excelsior and other classes
Great ship to have in Star Trek: Armada III(Sins of a Solar Empire Mod)
Their repair drones are a lifesaver in fleet actions.
LOL amen! :)
Ahh tri..
Picards old tincan 😉😊🤣👍
LOL :)
This has always been one of my favorite starship classes! I enjoy your videos but was especially glad to find this one!
Outstanding video, one of my favorite ship designs and Wonderful information. Thank you
My favorite refit kitbash ship.
It's a great design
Love the Sagan Class!
Me too!
I like the double-stuffed Oreo size of the saucer. It complements the four nacelles nicely.
Love your videos!!! Especially Truth or Myth Beta Canon!!
Thanks so much!
This my 3rd favorite starship after the Constitution Refit and the Defiant…New Orleans and Galaxy wrap up my favorites! 🖖🏾
This was another amazing video. Just superb story telling. Would you consider doing a story on special auxiliary craft of different vessels? Like the Enterprise D Cousteau or Voyager's aeroshuttle?
Absolutely, it's something Ive been preparing for for a while now actually :) But it wont be out for a while yet :)
YaS, my favourite!!!!!! Did not know about the rest of the shuttle bay's though, always thought they just were full of planetary surveying shuttles and repair craft but yea very cool! In Star Trek: Online "yes going back to this" Wich the addition of Wil Wheaton as the Terran Emperor has given this new life for me I've always tries to have a Constellation, where originally it was a Stargazer class or something, but when they brought out the Constellation class finally, I had to get it! That ship has served me well for years (in game) Did a Tri thing of creating my own canon for as why it remained in service. Even purchased the 12" model and a few years later they put more detail in the way she looked, so still have to get another one.
Surprise! :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios thank you very, very much.
A very clever design as an Excelsior backup.A long distance exploration cruiser using all 4 nacelles st medium warp to prevent nacelle burnout at high speeds.The shuttle bays could be used for rescue and retrieval missions.
I remember seeing this in its original run when I was into starship models by Revel and whomever. I could tell right away it was a kitbash, but a an interesting one and one I wished they’d made a model of when I was still doing it.
I love the videos on the different classes of starship. It reminds me of the different classes that I make for my own artworks. There's rationale and reason for design in general and I like how designs evolved. Each of these videos gives a plausible Foundation for how these ships came to be in the first place as well as the characters of the societies that build them. Not just in the Federation but anywhere in the known universe.
I have loved your videos and watched just about all of them. Keep it up sir.
Thanks a ton Mike :)
Thank you ver much for this nice Video about the Truth OR Myth BETA- The Constellation Class
You are very welcome
I never really understood why a ship with 4 warp nacelles and 4 or 2 sets of you will of impulse engines can be considered underpowered. Only thing I can think of is the warp core was too small/not suitable but I can't see that happening really.
Well done. Starting to think the wiki could have TAAS Beta and be just fine in the heart of Trek. ^.^
Great storytelling as always and you did a superb job with this 3D model! When I first saw this ship on TNG I was blown away by its overall design, it looked so bulky and clunky but has multiple functions and fits the personality of Picard to a tee 😆 The Constellation class will always be solidified in the expansion of the Star Trek universe! This video was wonderful, absolutely WONDERFUL!!🖖⭐👍❤⭐⭐ Thank You🤗
Love this design. When Picard was looking for a starship in season 1 I wished he would have grabbed the Stargazer from the decommission yard. Would have been entertaining that it would always need some duct tape to hold together.
I almost got the Constellation class mixed up with the Constitution class. Sorry... 😆
"Hello, old friend." - Jean-Luc Picard
🖖😎👍
Nicely done, thank you!
I'm more into the looks of the Sagan class version of the Stargazer.
This original Constellation class has a weirdly thick saucer and the connection point for the nacelles just worsens the look of the saucer section.
This Video is making a grown man cry tears of joy 😭🤧
Awwwwwww
Thank you very much
LOL ;)
And again you do a video on a favorite of mine keep it up
Well you know I only make these videos for you lol :P
Would make a good medical ship too with all those bays even colony ship I wouldn’t class as a carrier it’s to small tho be good for light carrier but like you said research labs litterly just tow object into say bay if can’t risk transporters or such
Thank you, and I agree :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios sto when I do fly mine I use the medical shields tho I wish they would revamp the shields visuals as with the sheild equipped as visuals it should replace fleet logo with medical logo tho haven’t really even noticed the fleet logo but on other ships that you notice them they should replace the fleet logo with it luckily I’m a solo fleet so I can adjust my fleet logo accordingly for 3D printing :)
Constellation, the Queen of Yeeting! 😃
Ohh such a good and excellent Video buddy!
"But what do we know about this overworked and underpowered design" oof that hits close to home lol
I think its an odd but very cool ship. Always hav
It's would be really nice to have a tv show we're we follow the adventure of a constellation class and is crew
Yes, during the lost era!
Couldnt agree more :) Of course, Im happy with any Star Trek shows.... BUT I would love an anthology one that could take place at any time, on any ship, season per season!
God, I love those nacelles.
Very nice, very nice.
where is the deflector dish on the Constellation?
The video explains that...
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios well shit...I missed it....will re-watch!
Lol Oh I thought you were trolling me lol :P
I really like the constellation class, if I commanded a Constellation class starship I want it to
be called the USS Valhalla with the registry NCC 7123
The next video will be about the Gemini class? *7w7*
Lol good guess, but no... It IS coming though ;)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios The day I win this lottery I will be promoted starship captain in some DESROM
LOL :)
Are the blue domes related to the impulse engines, which are nearby? The Excelsior also had a dome on the rear of its saucer hull in line with its red impulse exhausts, though different scale and distance.
Yes, those are impulse reactors!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Cool! THanks!
No problem!
I bet the constellation class rattled just like a GMC fishbowl Whenever it hit the most minor imperfection in space sort of like the GMC fish bowl bus. You could drop up hard piece of candy on the road and if the GMC fishbowl bus ran over it it would just rattle every part in it I imagine writing in a constellation class starship was a lot like that
Hello TriAngulum.
I have always liked the Constellation Class. It is sturdy, long ranged, and useful. All the points you made about the eject-able lab areas are good ones... Although, for myself, I would have used the ship as a 'carrier' type vessel. Turning the labs into further shuttle bays.
For exploration, such multiple shuttle bays would be very useful in charting and cataloging a newly discovered star system in record time, by flooding the system with specialty shuttles for that purpose.
For warfare, the replacement of the vast majority of the shuttles with fighter craft, and armored shuttle craft, would make the ship a potent threat to any foe it encountered.
As a Commander that wants the best he can get from any ship, I think I would have pressed to salvage a more powerful warp core to increase the ship's available overall power.
Baring that, replacing the original core with several smaller cores might do the trick.
If nothing else, it would give the warp cores the redundancy of the nacelles, which is a survival factor I can get behind and push for.
All Beta Canon supports that it is NOT a carier class! In fact, even logic and Canom support that it is not, as a carier vessel is never an exploration starship by mission profile!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios : You missed my point entirely. What I meant to point out was that with the lab areas devoted to more shuttle bays, the ship could more quickly explore a solar system, and with such an expanded number of bay areas, it could also be pressed into use as a carrier.
Oh no, I got your point, its just that it doesn't really make sense or jive with canon... As we see Starship sensors doing all the exploration work... So using shuttles for that purpose, just doesnt fit on so many levels!
🤔 Wait. Have you done a California class? 😏
I remember reading it used 2 nacelles and change over in warp on other 2 and take first pair off-line so it can stay in warp alot longer. In ways the ship could do longer distances and longer year runs before overhauls.
That's a fan created myth, no weight in canon or beta canon to that theory at all
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Ah. Thanks. Could have been a good idea for the class as a mission profile.
I disagree, as it's poor resources in to a starship class, that arent really necessary... And I'd hope in the future that wasting resources wasn't a thing ;) :P
One of my favorite classes of ship. though with no physical deflector dish.
No, like the Miranda, Centaur, Oberth Classes ect it uses Deflector Emitters!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I mean that makes sense too. I like to think of the sensor on the left side as a dish replacement.
On star trek legacy the torpedo launchers are reversed I fire 2 forward and 4 afted
Star Trek: Legacy, sadly, got it wrong!
Too bad there isn't enough on the Radiant class to have added anything to this video.
Good reskin on the stargazer!
Too bad I didnt have a 3D model to make a video in the first place :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I'm actually surprised
I often wonder how it could have a vertical warp core when the impulse crystals were arranged horizontally.
Well the Warp Core and Impulse Reactors are 2 different systems that dont really run off each other!
Surely for a tighter warp field you'd want the nacelles surrounding the primary hull rather than slung out behind.
No, because in Subspace, the laws of physics dont work the same!
Perfect update to this forgotten ship that made Picard.😊
There is this book that has a close date to when Constellation class came out ,But it is not dead on the date of when came out officially .Since it only mentioned the USS Hathaway ,And it was official cannon at time .Since the couple who wrote worked on Star Trek at the time .And his Michael and Denise Okadia if I correct on the names that is .Since they have a book that entire Star Trek timeline form the movies and tv shows of the time .And they wrote few other books on Star Trek as well .But if find the official Star trek timeline on history .
There are MANY beta canon sources that discuss the class and its launch date, which is 2275, and that makes a lot of sense! See sources such as Honor Blade, Hour of Fire, The Fallen etc!
I believe that the constellation was a late 23rd century interception cruiser designed to send any Romulan or klingon ship packing before it cause trouble
I always thought that the 4 nacells wasn't for speed, but instead for duration. Run 2 at max speed for the max rated time and then use the other two to rest and repair the ones that were just run. Kind of like how they use reactors on aircraft carriers some times.
Well now you know the truth!
My view of the 'Stellas: They came about after the New Paradigm warp engines (revised [TNG] warp factor calculation, 10 is absolute max) were devised. With the initial discovery of Cardassia, and the conflicts that ensued, Starfleet needed ships that could be assembled quickly, in large numbers, using older stockpiled parts. Previous efforts to use four nacelles had faltered because of the difficulty of balancing them all, given the limitations of the multitronic ship computers of the era, but with 24th century polytronics, it was feasible -- and there were a lot of FWF-type nacelles in storage. Four of these older nacelles HAD to be used per vessel, to even minimally match the power output and speed of the New Paradigm vessels, but 'Stellas were nonetheless faster and more capable than the Old Paradigm Excelsiors and Mirandas that otherwise filled the fleet. This is how they landed in the role of "Fleet workhorse", as opposed to the more glamorous -- but scarcer -- early next-gen builds such as the Ambassador and Narendra classes. Their ruggedness also contributed to them having longer service lives than many of the vessels they were contemporaries of.
Unfortunately, Canon has already proven your views to be incorrect... As the first of these starships was launched in 2275, LONG before the Warp Scale revision!
In my head canon the Constellation class was a reaction to the teething problems of the Excelsior class and awkward design of the Constitution class refit. Given the ongoing failures of the transwarp experiments Star Fleet’s ship designers were challenged to design a cruiser with capabilities meeting or exceeding the Constitution class refit or, at best, approaching those of the excelsior using the established technologies of the Constitution and Miranda class cruisers. This is why the four nacelle design was necessary, as it was the only way to get a warp field whose power was equivalent to the Excelsior’s using the only style nacelles.
This design approach was largely successful with the four nacelle design having only two draw backs. First it was inefficient at low warp speeds, due to the power requirements of four nacelles operating in tandem. Second, that energy demand also left less power for the ships other systems. This is why the class was often derided as “underpowered and overworked”.
Except this class came way before the Excelsior Class...
You should do a story of the USS Constellation NX-1974 as it leads a fleet of ships towards Mars…as they try to hold off the Whale Probe
Wouldn't be much of a story given the probes ability to simply disable all the ships... :P lol
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I meant…leading up to the events of The Voyage Home
Well we saw the lead up in STIV, so Im not sure theres a story there at all tbh... For it to be a good story, it must have a start middle a climax and end... Theres no climax or end with the probes simple ability to disable the vessels. And creating a story of a fleet just getting together is not very exciting with no pay off!
Saucer reminds me of a Chicago style deep dish pizza 🤤🤤🤤
So good LOL
I've actually just watched a couple of your older videos. One was the NX refit and the other on the Nova Class. Despite you feeling that the NX refit BETA was sub-par is thought it fitted nicely into what fans would expect. If anyone hasn't seen them then please look them up. I'll be honest I hated the NX, even though from the top she looks like my favourite Fed ship, the Akira. When the Secondary hull is added, it turns into a design I, not just like, but LOVE. I also like the background of the Nova, it fits well into the Federation ethos. If I haven't liked or bought into a narrative you've created for something then I've always felt free to explain why. But as I said two really nice videos, to anyone who hasn't seen them... please check them out.
I'm not sure how this class can be considered forgotten. Let us not forget the U.S.S. Stargazer, Jean-Luc Picard's first command. This, in and of itself, means that this class will never be forgotten.
For shame.😕
Simple, it's never talked about, it's never really seen except as an old dilapidated vessel even though it was a very important class... Even fandom rarely talks about it... And as for Picard's history, I think you'd find MOST cadets and Officers more interested in his command of the FLAGSHIP of the Federation! Just like most people forget Churchills History prior to World War 2! You may not like it, but it's realistic!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios True. But. Picard may not have ever commanded the Enterprise-D if it weren't for his command of the Stargazer. If I'm not mistaken, there was an episode of TNG that looked at this very scenario. I believe Q was a big part of this.
Perhaps you could make a review of this from a Beta Canon standpoint.
Yes and? Again, Churchill may never have been PM if he wasnt an admiral of the fleet first, yet most people don't know that... That's how history works...
And no, TNG's scenario was about Picards Heart, not the Stargazer! Though mentioned, it wasnt anything major, nor would I say, did anyone really know about Picards Heart! :)
PS could you explain "Perhaps you could make a review of this from a Beta Canon standpoint?" Im not sure I understand what you mean...
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Well, Beta Canon seems to me to differ from regular Canon stuff. I think what I'm really asking is that you do a kind of What if? thing with Picard. Like maybe, "What if Picard didn't take command of the Stargazer?" Because that was the moment that defined his later career. And isn't that what that episode in TNG kind of explored? I'd love to see your take on it.
Why add more engines?
Everyone knows that if you want to make something faster, you have to add stripes
You don't add stripes, you Paint it Red. 😉
Well why cant you do both? :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios if you add flame decals to red paint it doesn't look as good/go as fast...
And add a spoiler.
@@mckayfan two! Make it twice as fast. One on the front one on the back