Tesla to J1772 MINI Charging Adapter - MUCH Less than a Tesla Tap! 😮 EVDance Unboxing & Review
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EVDANCE sent me their Tesla to J1772 charging adapters to test out and this really is a game changer. One is a fairly small size that works well. The really nice on is their mini Tesla to J1772 EV charging adapter. It's about the size of a Tesla Tap Mini, but costs a lot less than a Tesla Tap. And they both work great with my Kia EV6 with no issues. Check out the review and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for watching!
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This is a crazy good deal compared to a Tesla Tap Mini. Let me know if you have any questions. And be sure to subscribe for more videos! 😀
Sold out! I wonder if any of your viewers have tried this with a Harley Davidson LiveWire? The mini one would be perfect to stick under the seat for those emergency situations.
Yeah it'd probably work well
Just ordered the mini adapter! Thank you Jeff!
Happy to help!
Thank you for this review. I just purchased one for our RX450h+ to give us more options when we stay in hotels. It worked fine at a local hotel!
Nice yeah it definitely comes in handy.
I bought the EVDance 80A (mini) back in August. I have lots of Tesla destination chargers around where I live, but the ones I tried tried the adapter at didn't ever charge my Nissan Leaf. I also tried a few other ones too, but the only one I ever got to work at all the DCs was the TeslaTap mini import. My research before getting that one indicated that sometimes the DCs are set for only charging Tesla vehicles and that the import version of the TTmini has a chip/circuit that can fool the DCs that aren't set to allow all makes of EVs. Some of the other DCs in my area that I tried could charge my car with the EVDance and some other adapters. But those were the ones that weren't the ones that I wanted to use so often (locations that I was near)
Oh yeah? I know the kia/Hyundai EVs had an issue where you had to start the charge using the app or starting the vehicle then turning it off after plugging in. But that was fixed in a software update.
If you can, you should do a test on a Tesla Destination Charger/Wall Connector. Those likely have a different communication protocol than the portable Tesla Mobile Connector you have. With destination chargers is usually where the non-TeslaTap adapters have issues since you have to wait 30 seconds or plug things in a certain order.
Non Tesla Taps have issues with all from what I've seen and tested. I'll test a destination soon though. I am curious if with the new Kia updates they've corrected the compatibility. I'll have to test the Lectron again.
@TechnicallyJeff By Kia updates, you mean the dealer installed updates right? Like the TSB for the ICCU. Because OTA updates are confined to only the infotainment system
Yeah the Kia installed ones - ICCU, VCU, BMS, etc
I kept playing Back to the Future 1.21 gigs watts in my head when ever you said the charging speed haha. Nice review, might have to pick me up one of those
Haha yeah this is pretty sweet
I just checked your Amazon link and they’ve already increased the price by $20! This is a few hours after you posted the review. Sheesh, it was a reasonable cost, but maybe they’ll drop it once inventory goes back up?
Oh that's crazy. Definitely would get the 80A one then since it's still just $70
It’s actually $99….minus a $10 coupon = $89. Still a deal - though not as good as when u first posted - compared to the cost of a number of other mini-plugs.
It still shows as on sale for $80 before the $10 off coupon for me. So you have Amazon Prime?
@@TechnicallyJeff ahhhh, that was it! The link from TH-cam opened my browser (without my login), which showed the more expensive cost. When I logged into my prime acct it shows the $70 cost. Thanks for catching that! 👍🏽
@dennisbloom8611 sweet glad it's working now
I tried the 80 amp mini for just a couple of minutes today at a Tesla destination charger and it worked fine. It pulled 4.4 kw but I think it's because they had three Tesla chargers there and maybe they all shared a circuit? Two model 3's were plugged into the other two. I plugged in the dedicated J1772 Clipper Creek 32 amp they had there and went back to charging at 6.2 kw. I wonder what I would have pulled if I was the lone care there... Anyways this is very comforting to have on hand, thanks!
I'm glad it's working well
Sorry Jeff. Tried two of these and neither would charge my EV6. First one got stuck on the Tesla charger and started sparking too. Do not recommend.
Have you had all the EV6 updates? And which one started sparking? Was it fully connected to the connector?
@@TechnicallyJeff I have not scheduled the updates yet. After charging failed I removed it and it sparked at the car plug.
@adambuchanan8460 the ELE283 update seems to fix the Tesla adapter issues. As for the sparking, that definitely isn't good.
Did you check the current and voltage of yur Tesla charger and your EV6 before using the adapter? Try to set the EV6's charging system to min. voltage and connect to the adapter.
@@katiabeevan my voltage setting was maximum. I ordered the 80 amp adapter so I could use any available current from a charger. If I have to reduce the car input to minimum, that kind of defeats the purpose. I'll have the updates done and retry unless I have to return it before that.
Interesting...might be a necessity with road charging folks. We purchased the 1772 Tesla brand wall connector, back in April, for our KИ. It's just like BetaMax all over again. 🤷
Yeah I think it's a good idea to keep the adapter in the car.
Ordered 80amp mini just now .. ~26% off of 79.99 .. 59.49 plus tax. Thanks TJ
Nice!
So glad these work! Thanks for reviewing!
Of course!
It's a bummer the mini one is 'currently unavailable'. I wanted to buy it. Thanks for introducing it anyway.
Ahh hopefully it will be available again soon
I am a bit confused. This is for home use assuming you have a Tesla charger installed at your home? Or can you somehow use this at a public level 2 Tesla charger? If so, now does one set up an account with Tesla for a non-Tesla EV?
Yep home use or public destination chargers like found at shopping centers, parking garages, hotels, etc. There is no account needed for those.
Thank you. I was not aware of this. I will take a closer look at Tesla chargers from now on.@@TechnicallyJeff
@robertkaufman6602 happy to help!
Would love to know if there is a lock for this similar to the ones for the j1772 to tesla adapter, someone could just unplug a umc and walk away with it, just leaving the adapter behind.
NOTE: I have the lectron brand of the first product he demoed.
Offhand the only one I know of is the Tesla Tap Mini. It has a spot for a lock on both sides. It's just significantly more expensive - amzn.to/4cu3CUb
So I picked up the larger one that's rated for 60a max and will be here today. I have a 2011 leave SV with fast charging and the first adapter I got didn't want to work at the destination chargers. I assume it's because it's an 80a charger, but I'm ignorant and assumed it would just charge at a slower rate? Thoughts? I really like your EV6!
Honestly it could be a compatibility issue. Different Vehicles handle Tesla level 2 Chargers differently. Hopefully this one will work for you, but you may end up running into the same problem unfortunately.
@@TechnicallyJeff I figured with it being a first Gen leaf, it may not like the Destination chargers. I appreciate your input, very helpful!
Yeah that's very possible. Good luck! Glad to help!
Based on Amazon reviews and your video, I went ahead and got both adapters just to see which one I prefer. So far, they both work like a charm! I may keep both since the total cost of both of them was still less than just one from other brands. Is there any point to having 2? Fortunately, the mini version had a 30% coupon. Thanks for the review!
Great! Hmm I'm not sure why you'd need 2, unless you have 2 EVs. You could keep it though in case something happens (damage, stolen, etc)
Haha, I have four, one for each of my two tesla wall connector at home to charge my ev6 and bolt and than a adapter for each of their gloveboxes for potential tesla destination chargers!
That makes total sense to me. I'm still trying to decide which one I want to keep since I really only need one. I have the 48amp version and the 80amp version as I mentioned. True to form, I'm over-thinking it! @@batteryblade
@andysimon7081 yeah the 80a one is probably built with thicker wiring
Has been a re-call on the mini ? If not, where can I buy it? What is the model #?
Looks like an updated version - amzn.to/3K5oR1M
Very cool and indeed much cheaper ! I wonder if holes can be made to update it with a lock 🤔 That one fit better in my backpack and my wallet 😅
I was thinking the same thing. Could probably drill a small diameter hole through the J1772 latch.
@@TechnicallyJeff or heat press an insert. The same way we insert threads in 3D printed parts
@cranfktubner7677 yeah that could work
Cool but I was hoping it would work with the supercharger. It doesn't. But thanks for the info.
This one works with superchargers as long as the vehicle has access (like Ford and Rivian currently) and promo code TECHJEFF saves you 15% - a2zevshop.com/products/nacs-ccs1?ref=TECHJEFF&variant=43186507579592
Are there any adapters in which you can lock the Tesla side of it?
There are. I don't recall the specific ones offhand though. I've reviewed several. Check out my videos and keep an eye out for a hole on that side where a lock could go.
Does the tesla end lock into the adapter? I want to use my Tesla mobile charger for another EV but don't want the Tesla cord stolen... Thanks in advance!
I don't see a way to lock it to the Tesla connector
@@TechnicallyJeff Thank you for taking a look I appreciate it!
No problem!
Why do people need to lock during charging? What is the concern? Do you trust third party chargers that they used the correct wire gauge.
You want to lock the adapter to the charger so that it doesn't accidentally get unplugged when power is flowing. And yeah I haven't seen anything bad honestly when it comes to wire gauge. Many are rated for 80 amps for example which is well above what would actually flow.
I just bought the EV6 GT as my first ev. I’m brand new to the charging world…would these also work at a Tesla Supercharger?
Congrats! No these only work on level 2 Tesla chargers. There aren't any supercharger adapters yet but that should be coming soon.
Jeff aka woody, when you use this adapter the J 1772 for your Tesla wall charger are you using the 50 amp 1450 plug and how many kilowatts of power is charging your car I believe it should be about 9.6 kW?
My Tesla mobile connector does 32A so I get about 7.5 kW or so.
Just take the order, thanks jeff
Happy to help
I’m not worried about someone unplugging me, but will there be a spark or damage my car if the Tesla end is unplugged while charging? I am thinking of returning it since I can’t lock that end. Have you tested that by chance?
Someone would have to intentionally remove the Tesla end from the adapter when connected to the car. Theoretically there could be an issue if power is flowing when that happens. I haven't tested that though.
I just ordered this for $56 with tax. I'm not one to go cheap but Lectron seems overpriced so I'm going with the reviews from Jeff and Amazon.
Yeah these seem to work well and are rated for higher currents than we can pull with our vehicles so they should be fine. Definitely not worth spending an extra $100 for no reason.
@@TechnicallyJeff I'll let you know how it works.
Sounds good
@@TechnicallyJeff I charge for 12 hours and about 75 KWs with no problems the other night. I have the Rivian R1T dual motor max pack. Thanks for turning me on to this.
Great I'm glad to help!
UL or CE?
It has a UL fireproof rating. And an IP65 rating for weather. These types of adapters usually don't have a UL rating for the entire thing though (I don't think I've ever seen that). Some specify that the components are UL rated, but that's just the components. I'd probably get the 80A version honestly because I'd never use close to that and if it's rated for that, the wiring size must be sufficient.
@@TechnicallyJeff OK cool, I just worry about safety with these things.
Yeah I think we should always be cautious. These are pretty simple though luckily.
Just ordered the 80A version on Amazon for a total of $54 with tax and free shipping after a $40 coupon! Does anyone have experience using this on a Leaf Plus (62 kWh battery)?
Great deal
Is this UL certified? It doesn't say on the ad.
These types of adapters don't usually get UL certified (I don't think I've ever seen one that is). Sometimes they list UL rated components and that it's UL rated for fire safety (this point does list that).
i used the mini one on my ev6. it was connected to a level 1 tesla charger. it did not work. it said charge unsuccessful. wonder if it only works with level 2 chargers?
Usually that's because you haven't had the ELE283 TSB applied to your vehicle. Until then, you can start the charge by plugging in, then "starting" the car, then turning it back off.
what's that? and how do i do it? thanks.
Here's the TSB. The dealership applies it if you complain about level 2 charging stopping - technicallyjeff.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/TSB-ELE283-EV6-VCMS-Battery-Charging-Logic-Improvement.pdf
Will this work for public tesla chargers
Public level 2 chargers, yes
Will this work at Tesla charging stations?
All except superchargers
Where can I buy this EVDANCE adapter
The link is in the description
The point of getting the Tesla Tap is that you’re not getting chinesium. It’s made in the USA, so of course it’s expensive. I would rather not risk fires.
I get it's made in the USA which I definitely prefer, but it also is a very simple product. Literally just a few wires and connectors. No need to spend $250-300 on something that costs $30 to make.
For $40 I want to see you crack that thing open and show us the insides. Also, you need to do more than just 30 seconds of charging “welp, it worked, recommended!” If you want to be taken seriously. How about an overnight charge at minimum? Does it get hot?
I may crack it open. I charged it for about an hour and it wasn't hot. 32A wouldn't allow it to charge all night though. Maybe 4 hours or so.
J1772 Charging Adapter will work on a Tesla Supercharge?
No only level 2 chargers like destination chargers
Can it work with tesla supper charger
No, currently there aren't any that works with superchargers (Tesla hasn't opened up the network). It just works with level 1 and 2 chargers.
damn you jeff! I paid like $168 for the lectron and I have used it 0 times LOL for $40 and no caveats to use it? mhhh 🤔
Haha I know this is pretty great
honestly would not cheap out on something like this. if anything goes wrong it could do a lot of damage.
These charging adapters are pretty basic and don't really have many potential fail points. The pins all seem fine on both sides and the internal wiring is beefy enough to handle well over the amperage the vehicle can accept.
The "chargers" aren't actually chargers but more of a power supply. The chargers are built into the car so you're limited to your car's built in ac charger. As long as they can both communicate with each other there's no problem. These won't work on superchargers but you can only use superchargers with their built in adapter and that requires their app. Tesla destination chargers should work though.
Yep that's true. Though A2Z and Lectron have NACS to CCS adapters ready for when the supercharger network is opened. A2Z says theirs is approved as well.
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It looks like it's now $60.😢
Yeah unfortunately. The 80A version is still only $80 though.