that was nicely done, although the high-tech crimp tool made it look too easy. Personally, I would have no issues soldering those pins because they will not be subject to vibration or even much movement within that plug assembly. The addition of the shrink tubing was a stroke of genius.
Cool! I want to cut my brand new Tesla connector to add an extension. Your video gave me a good visual of how many wires I’ll need, now I’m gonna look at the correct gauge wire for the 32a
Very cool hack! You seem to be the right person to ask for a video about making a hardwired box that has a length of cable with the adapter plugs at the end, for connecting the mobile adapter when at home.
Hey Josh, The guy who makes the Tesla Tap is the guy who made my custom cable. Mine is a Tesla UMC (now called NACS) handle to a female J1772, so basically the same as the 4” J1772 adapter that comes with every Tesla but mine is 19 feet long. I needed it because my EVSE is 35 feet from my Tesla charge port and my existing EVSE only has a 25 ft cable. The funny thing is I own one of these Tesla EVSEs for 2 years but I have never used it yet. Only used it as a display at car shows.
I'd like a breakdown of the resistor values that all of the adaptor-cables use to tell the UMC what current to supply! That way I could make a rotary switch to set the current manually. (To use only when you know what you're doin'! Like I do, and obviously you)
Nice video. As you've probably heard, Tesla recently announced they will no longer be supplying the UMC with new cars. Rumors are they will reduce the online price to around $200, so this may be a good alternative to other portable chargers.
Do you have any wiring diagrams for these Tesla mobile connectors? I have a gen 1 that I need to put a new 14-50 plug end on, I had started but I didn’t realize there were so many wires going to the wall plug end.
Hey there, I love the details you gave in this video! Question have you used a tt-30 connector the aftermarket one for the Tesla mobile connector? Trying to see if it'll work on a 30 amp 125 volt circuit. On other evscs it just detects 120 volts unlimited to 12 amps.
I have question. Is there a way to make a Tesla or other EV to accept DC voltage supply to the onboard charger? I mean if a have a battery at like any DC-voltage between 170 to 340 VDC, it should be in the range as that is what will be produced in after the rectification in the on-board charger. What do you think?
Hi, I connected everything exactly like you in the video, but with Wall Connector gen3. My hyundai ioniq charges normally, but the Model s, through the adapter, shows a charger error Can you help me with this? If you want, I can send additional details in any massenger.
Any idea what you want to do the labor on this job? If I had the crimper I could do it myself, but I definitely don't want to spend the money on the gear!
The versatility of the UMC and it's multiple tails is a real strength. The one UMS tail I haven't been able to locate is a Type 2 mennekes tail. Often they just want you to purchase a whole type 2 cable. Do you know why there is no Type 2 UMC tail?
Thanks for video but i need one more information is possible to connect thermistor to white wire and ground and have this extra safety feature like original umc have? (what ohm and ntc/ptc need?)
Amazing video - liked and subscribed. I just purchased a Tesla mobile connector and NEMA bundle from their store, along with a Tesla->J1772 adapter for the widest plug hookup options when I'm on the road. Waiting patiently for EV6 GT-Line AWD :) Keep up the awesome work.
All you chevy bolt owners, you COULD cut off the 120v plug and replace it with a 240v plug, but please don't do this. There is a temperature sensor in the 120v plug of the EVSE that comes with the Bolt. If you cut the plug off you lose the ability for the car to sense that it's plugged into an old lose 120v socket and that could be dangerous. Also, figure out all of the outlets on the branch circuit that you plug your car into. Then open up the receptacles and see if the wires use the screw terminals or are simply "back stabbed". Please modify them to use the screw terminals. Your insurance agent will thank you.
They should work fine although I haven’t tried it. The other alternative is to extend on the input side (extension cord) but it wouldn’t be as universal and there is always dangers when using 5-15 cords that they probably can’t handle the current.
Do you know what gauge wires are in the tesla cable? Also any ideas on a replacement temperature sensor that could be used instead of just bypassing thermal protection? Thanks.
In the Tesla cable in UK (same as the Type 2 shown here), the temperature sensor is a NTC thermistor so the Tesla UMC (universal mobile connector) can see if the plug is getting hot. The other wires beside the PP, CP and temperature wires are for the button that opens the car's charge port. It just supplies power to a little RF module (433 MHz ISM band) in the Tesla plug - the US Tesla plugs also have this feature. Hope that helps.
Since Tesla is no longer bundling a MC with the cars, perhaps they should outright sell these with Type 1 plugs for other EV owners. It should help them reach even higher economies of scale. Makes sense unless they are subsidizing the $200 unit and would just lose more money if they sold more for non-Tesla owners.
The reason they are no longer including the universal mobile connectors is due to supply shortages, which were also a factor before the pandemic (the charge connectors are and were more often out of stock in their online store than they were in stock). Making them more widely available would only make the shortage worse for their customers.
@@android04 Thanks, but I’m talking about a Type 1 output J1772. Tesla doesn’t sell those adapters on their store. Even the Type 1 J1772 to Tesla adapter is the reverse of the J1772 connector I’m talking about. Even so, your info definitely puts things in a different light. Thanks.
Really whishe that combo lvl 1 and 2 came with all EVs. Aftermarket one I bought has to be stepped down manually and had to buy multiple nema attachments.... Ends up pretty pricey. But I travel a fair amount and have found the need. Auto feature of the tesla one makes me whishe I had bought theirs
Agreed. I just put out a video on my aftermarket 32A unit, which requires expensive adapters. The new $200 price point of the Tesla unit makes it a no-brainer, IMO.
@@gustavgans3760 Thanks Josh, I'm sorry I only posed half of my question :( I wanted to know which is which from the pins, without taking the thing apart! Having watched your video a few more times I think I can now work that out from the various shots you give of the plug internals. I'm trying to charge a 2020 Tesla Model 3 AWD LR battery pack off the car to use as a 'powerwall'. There is very little information on such a project on the Internet. The problem I'm facing currently is I'm not getting any power to the battery pack input socket on the penthouse so I just wanted to create 'test points' along my intended charging cabling to see where it's getting stuck. I must say I'm currently thinking of direct charging the two halves of the Model 3's battery layout using a 220vDC supply from a transformer. If you have any thoughts on how to achieve my project I would love to hear from you.
that was nicely done, although the high-tech crimp tool made it look too easy. Personally, I would have no issues soldering those pins because they will not be subject to vibration or even much movement within that plug assembly. The addition of the shrink tubing was a stroke of genius.
Cool! I want to cut my brand new Tesla connector to add an extension. Your video gave me a good visual of how many wires I’ll need, now I’m gonna look at the correct gauge wire for the 32a
Very cool hack! You seem to be the right person to ask for a video about making a hardwired box that has a length of cable with the adapter plugs at the end, for connecting the mobile adapter when at home.
This guy does not fuck around. Thanks for the video.
Or, you could have just attached the adapter
Hey Josh, The guy who makes the Tesla Tap is the guy who made my custom cable. Mine is a Tesla UMC (now called NACS) handle to a female J1772, so basically the same as the 4” J1772 adapter that comes with every Tesla but mine is 19 feet long.
I needed it because my EVSE is 35 feet from my Tesla charge port and my existing EVSE only has a 25 ft cable.
The funny thing is I own one of these Tesla EVSEs for 2 years but I have never used it yet. Only used it as a display at car shows.
I'd like a breakdown of the resistor values that all of the adaptor-cables use to tell the UMC what current to supply! That way I could make a rotary switch to set the current manually. (To use only when you know what you're doin'! Like I do, and obviously you)
Nice video. As you've probably heard, Tesla recently announced they will no longer be supplying the UMC with new cars. Rumors are they will reduce the online price to around $200, so this may be a good alternative to other portable chargers.
Thanks Tom. I’m curious if that price will be with a car purchase or not. If not, that is an amazing deal! I have about $150 in parts for mine.
Do you have any wiring diagrams for these Tesla mobile connectors?
I have a gen 1 that I need to put a new 14-50 plug end on, I had started but I didn’t realize there were so many wires going to the wall plug end.
Hey there, I love the details you gave in this video! Question have you used a tt-30 connector the aftermarket one for the Tesla mobile connector? Trying to see if it'll work on a 30 amp 125 volt circuit. On other evscs it just detects 120 volts unlimited to 12 amps.
I have question. Is there a way to make a Tesla or other EV to accept DC voltage supply to the onboard charger? I mean if a have a battery at like any DC-voltage between 170 to 340
VDC, it should be in the range as that is what will be produced in after the rectification in the on-board charger. What do you think?
Hi, I connected everything exactly like you in the video, but with Wall Connector gen3. My hyundai ioniq charges normally, but the Model s, through the adapter, shows a charger error Can you help me with this? If you want, I can send additional details in any massenger.
I cringed when you cut the charge wand off of the cable. I have a cable with a faulty end connector. Is there anywhere those cable ends are available?
Any idea what you want to do the labor on this job? If I had the crimper I could do it myself, but I definitely don't want to spend the money on the gear!
The versatility of the UMC and it's multiple tails is a real strength. The one UMS tail I haven't been able to locate is a Type 2 mennekes tail. Often they just want you to purchase a whole type 2 cable. Do you know why there is no Type 2 UMC tail?
Thanks for video but i need one more information is possible to connect thermistor to white wire and ground and have this extra safety feature like original umc have? (what ohm and ntc/ptc need?)
Does the GEN 1 UMC have the same current limiting based on installed adapter?
Amazing video - liked and subscribed. I just purchased a Tesla mobile connector and NEMA bundle from their store, along with a Tesla->J1772 adapter for the widest plug hookup options when I'm on the road. Waiting patiently for EV6 GT-Line AWD :) Keep up the awesome work.
That's what I'm thinking about doing but wasn't sure if there was some tesla protocol that wouldn't allow it to work. Did it work for you?
IMO you went backwards about it should have gotten the proper USA made car. No more problems
10k thermisters are readily available on ebay.... would have been great to have kept that function.
Awesome video and nice work! You do a nicer job than I do! Why and how do you have that crimper!!
All you chevy bolt owners, you COULD cut off the 120v plug and replace it with a 240v plug, but please don't do this. There is a temperature sensor in the 120v plug of the EVSE that comes with the Bolt. If you cut the plug off you lose the ability for the car to sense that it's plugged into an old lose 120v socket and that could be dangerous. Also, figure out all of the outlets on the branch circuit that you plug your car into. Then open up the receptacles and see if the wires use the screw terminals or are simply "back stabbed". Please modify them to use the screw terminals. Your insurance agent will thank you.
Do j1772 extensions work well with this. Would be a great option for someone who needs to get extra length out of the cord.
They should work fine although I haven’t tried it. The other alternative is to extend on the input side (extension cord) but it wouldn’t be as universal and there is always dangers when using 5-15 cords that they probably can’t handle the current.
Do you know what gauge wires are in the tesla cable? Also any ideas on a replacement temperature sensor that could be used instead of just bypassing thermal protection? Thanks.
In the Tesla cable in UK (same as the Type 2 shown here), the temperature sensor is a NTC thermistor so the Tesla UMC (universal mobile connector) can see if the plug is getting hot. The other wires beside the PP, CP and temperature wires are for the button that opens the car's charge port. It just supplies power to a little RF module (433 MHz ISM band) in the Tesla plug - the US Tesla plugs also have this feature. Hope that helps.
Since Tesla is no longer bundling a MC with the cars, perhaps they should outright sell these with Type 1 plugs for other EV owners. It should help them reach even higher economies of scale. Makes sense unless they are subsidizing the $200 unit and would just lose more money if they sold more for non-Tesla owners.
The reason they are no longer including the universal mobile connectors is due to supply shortages, which were also a factor before the pandemic (the charge connectors are and were more often out of stock in their online store than they were in stock). Making them more widely available would only make the shortage worse for their customers.
@@android04 Thanks, but I’m talking about a Type 1 output J1772. Tesla doesn’t sell those adapters on their store. Even the Type 1 J1772 to Tesla adapter is the reverse of the J1772 connector I’m talking about. Even so, your info definitely puts things in a different light. Thanks.
How is done the opposite side of the UMC Tesla? What is its name? Can I create a blue adapter 32A ?
It's just resistors to a sense pin that tell the charger how much current to offer.
Really whishe that combo lvl 1 and 2 came with all EVs. Aftermarket one I bought has to be stepped down manually and had to buy multiple nema attachments.... Ends up pretty pricey. But I travel a fair amount and have found the need. Auto feature of the tesla one makes me whishe I had bought theirs
Agreed. I just put out a video on my aftermarket 32A unit, which requires expensive adapters. The new $200 price point of the Tesla unit makes it a no-brainer, IMO.
Hi Josh, just a curiosity ... how did you know which side is the Live and which is the Neutral? Is it marked somewhere?
It's colour coded
@@gustavgans3760 Thanks Josh, I'm sorry I only posed half of my question :( I wanted to know which is which from the pins, without taking the thing apart! Having watched your video a few more times I think I can now work that out from the various shots you give of the plug internals.
I'm trying to charge a 2020 Tesla Model 3 AWD LR battery pack off the car to use as a 'powerwall'. There is very little information on such a project on the Internet. The problem I'm facing currently is I'm not getting any power to the battery pack input socket on the penthouse so I just wanted to create 'test points' along my intended charging cabling to see where it's getting stuck. I must say I'm currently thinking of direct charging the two halves of the Model 3's battery layout using a 220vDC supply from a transformer. If you have any thoughts on how to achieve my project I would love to hear from you.
Or just buy 20$ type 2 to type 1 adapter. What a waste of time...
Nice video but doesn't justify the total price at the end with all of your toys. Thanks!
No, it doesn't. I have some other use cases that I'll be sharing over the coming months.
Geez man. Just admit you regret not buying a Model3.
Na
troll much S9 Josh? The dude just created an awesome (and safe) hybrid mix of tech for his needs.