Clearly you don't know much about electricity bills. You didn't take into account any of the delivery charges and other fees that you get charged for using electricity at home. Your total cost is way higher than 7 cents a KW.
@@American_Made A hummer H2 gets 11 mpg and has a 32 gallon tank. That's $95.00 for 352 miles. If you're smart about your charging, the cost is a fraction of the cost of gas. I'm no EV worshiper, but paying less for "fuel" is no joke. How many people drive over 200 miles on a daily basis. Almost no one.
@@spuriouseffect Oh I know. This is no slight against EVs, and really more of a funny observation given how Hummer is pretty much THE American stereotype car.
Wait until the government begins adding a tax on electricity used in EV's to make up fot the tax losses from the reduced gas sales. Then and only then will we know the real operating cost of an EV.
There's already taxes and bullshit fees attached to my electricity bill. My electricity provider doesn't care what I'm doing with the electricity whether it be charging my vacuum or my EV.
Yeah 213 kW lol :-) That's like 2.6 Model Ys (long range). GM is like the Intel/Nvidia of EVs... 'oh you want more performance? Well then, more power!' Not more efficiency.
@@declinox yeah 1000HP is not necessary for "normal" driving I can see 500 HP and 500 foot pounds of torque for towing but there is no reason for anything over that for driving or towing but I guess they need that much because it weighs 10,000 ibs
@@declinox yeah 1000HP is not necessary for "normal" driving I can see 500 HP and 500 foot pounds of torque for towing but there is no reason for anything over that for driving or towing but I guess they need that much because it weighs 10,000 ibs
All electric cars will cost a lot once there are many more out there as electricity costs will skyrocket. In turn poor people will not be able to watch TV anymore either
When I charged my Nissan Leaf at home in Oregon at 8.3 cents per KWH the cost to replenish 200 miles of driving was equal to buying a gallon of gas. So I got the equivalent of 200 miles per gallon.
Wait until your cells health diminish and your bars go down and you have to replace your cells. And those are air cooled cells so they degrade pretty quick. 😬
@@shaydesofblue2281 Old age is probably worse then high milage. The ones that drive an EV 400k miles in a relatively short time probably take care of the car.
So my understanding is that depending on the scenario / pricing, theres potential for not much savings. Eventually power companies will be like oil companies, costs to charge will go up way more once more people jump on board, long waits to fully charge, more resources to build the cars, and what it takes to ( manufacture / Recycle / dispose / replace ) an EV battery. So much greener alright.
@@Intechdude300It’s impossible to make everyone go electric, probably not even half with our current infrastructure. Electricity to charge your car will eventually become more expensive than gasoline for an equivalent vehicle.
@@M4X1 It already is in some states! My electricity cost is $0.32/kWh (In California), at that rate, it's $71.68 to fully charge this EV from home with a miniscule range of barely 300 miles. My 2017 Ford Explorer Sport fills up right now with $70 and gets me almost 400 miles to the tank, EV ain't looking soo good now, is it? lol
I live off grid, and produce 2 to 4 kilowatts a day in solar depending on the weather. I have a refrigerator, a freezer, and two water pumps, and of course all the charging of electronics. Along with kitchen counter top appliances. Gas stove and water heater. On average I use the generator on dark cloudy days, and use 10 gallons of gas. (Still adding to solar system) Just to give an idea of how much power that EV uses. It would take me around 60 to 80 days to charge that EV, without using any power for my daily use.
how many square feet of solar panes do you have? I have a hard time believing that Tesla can power their charging stations with the few solar canopies they have setup in certain areas.
@@skmetal7 not sure of the square footage, because my solar array is based off watts, I have a mixed sets of solar panels. This means that solar panels depending on the manufacturer, they come in an arrangement of measurements. Which as it stands I have only have 1205 watts an hour at peak performance. Yet daily use is a measurement that is different to achieve, without creating resistance. Due to gage of wire that such measurement device requires, I have not measured this parameter. I also have wired thr cabin with over gauged wire, to reduce resistance. Always adding to the 12 volt system. The thought is to develop a 12 volt system that handles all my basic needs. Then build the 24 volt system after the 12 volt system can support what I need to keep everything going, even if it's bad weather for a few days. I am just about ready to add another 720 watts. Which due to a 12 volt system. That panels were a lot larger for what they receive for watts. The energy hub has a roof line 12x6, and 12x8, so 168sq ft. The main point is that, yes people should learn their energy consumption, before thinking that they are saving the planet, with buying an EV. Solar understands watts more then anything, and a 1000 watts is a kilowatt. When thinking solar a single kilowatt is a lot of energy. So when buying even a blender the about ot watts that it takes to operate this item is a deep consideration. Many companies now use a plow against this understanding by not illustrating the watts. This why understanding Ohms law comes into play. If one knows this simple math, then it's not difficult to determine whether to buy it or not. Solar is not as simple as it seems, yet it is. When one gets it, this will.make sense.
The charge time is the killer. Filling a diesel tank for comparable range takes only a few minutes. And if you need to wait for others ahead of you to charge, that's a *really* big deal (whereas with diesel it's only short wait)
CA averages $0.28 per KWh, which would cost over $200 to fill it. Then mandating a transition where they can't meet electric power demand today?? Haven't seen such a collosal idiotic idea this big since mortgage companies made NINJA loans (No Income - No Job, Application) for $500,000+ homes.
The thing is you’re comparing a showpiece to a utility vehicle the hummer is to show off it’s not efficient and not cost effective hummers usually aren’t whereas other ev trucks and cars can get around 0-80 in under around 30-40 minutes? That adds hundreds of miles
I can fill my 38 gallon truck up with gas, while he’s telling us about charging. Love your videos so not busting your chops. I watched some of your EV reviews during the pandemic and after, you were trying to change in the winter, and so many chargers were not working, and you were honest about it, so thanks
I always think about the massive upgrade/overhaul of the electrical infrastructure that would be required if there were hundreds of millions of these things on the road.
@@CognitiveDissident.Thats why getting into hyper-efficiency is the way of the future for commuters. Once you can break 300EMPG (tesla are 80empg and Aptera I'd 350 empg) you finally are in the realm of being able to charge your car strictly on roof solar. Why not cover a Tesla in solar power? Because you'd be lucky to get 5 miles a day on over $1,000 of solar equipment. But cars like Aptera can get 40 miles a day from the sun, not because their solar is amazing (it's only like 700 watts) but because they use the energy the sun created so efficiently.
All that to recommend EA INCREASE their charging cost. Seriously? Who says that? “Promote viable business models.” As if he’s owns an energy company. 😫😂 But, hey, good job on the stats and getting to nap in a hummer. 👌🏼
@Anthony Diaz Exactly a brilliant business model. Make a vehicle that cost 3 times as much as a traditional gas car and then make it cost the same to fill at the pump. As long as you bribe politicians to force people to buy it. Also don't forget the tax breaks and incentives stolen from welfare to subsidize the manufacturer. What an incredible savings. Meanwhile still burning fossil to generate electricity to be pumped through inefficient transmission lines. 20 tons of Co2 per vehicle built equalling 4 years of driving a gas vehicle only to have it scraped in 5 years because it ain't built to last. Government saving the world one business at a time.
Imagine needing to evacuate an area due to outages caused by an oncoming storm/hurricane, being on 20 percent charge, and the stations are all being used, or are not even working! 🤣
@@randybaumery5090 Happened in Florida with Hurricane Charlie. We have a home in Florida. No EVs for us. Keep the tank full and have a spare Jerry Can to evacuate when we need to.
I did the cost calculation. My 4x4 full-size pickup has a 375 mile range per tank and would be about $90 to fill from empty. Takes less than 10 minutes to fill.
not only that but average 4x4 trucks average msrp is between 50 and 65000... that hummer ev is nearly 80k... not factoring in bullshit dealer markups that'll easily bring it past 100k...
@@alanj7306 Your Duramax is more efficient and the hummer EV battery has a life span of 10 yrs or so, at the estimated replacement cost of 20 - 30 thousand in ten years.... long before you wear out that duramax. I have the baby duramax 4 cyl. in the midsize Colorado ZR2 which I love, especially with getting about 30 mpg hwy and loads of torque. I saw a video of someone measuring the electromagnetic radiation given off inside the cabin of an EV and it measured 1/3 of the radiation emitted from a microwave oven, which is much worse than what a cell phone puts out. At those levels you should FEEL the cancer swelling. Believe it or not but the cure for cancer, according to some testimonies is actually dog de wormer pills which has the active ingredient called " Fenbendazole " that has cured terminally ill patients.
In Germany you can double the cost to charge ! Also the chargers are mostly blocked by other EV in my region. Home 0,45€ - 0,60€ /kWh Charger 0,50€ - 0,85€ /kWh Date: 03.2023
They INTENDED for it to be expensive. Politicians don't care one bit if we can't afford it. This helps them CONTROL people. California is doing that by simply shutting down power to charging stations whenever they can't meet demand. They then smuggly snark "Stop charging your vehicles! You're overloading the grid!" They don't care if it works or not. It's all about government abuse and keeping the poor people under their thumb.
Most people use cheap off-peak electricity while they sleep so charging time isn't an issue. It's much cheaper than going to a public rapid charge which you only do if you have to. Also if you can afford to splurge this much on an EV you'll have the funds for solar panels.
@@Jamessansome solar panels!! Solar panels !! U think solar panels can charge this massive power hungry car! To do just even that u need atleast half a food ball field cover with solar panels n u must be in places like Vegas or California where u can get SUN for 10 hours. U need so many batteries to save those electricity u produce. Then u might charge ur car for each day I hope. That’s the best scenario here. Using only 5/8 solar panels on roof not proper Sun light will not be efficient enoug to charge this beast
My 2015 Ram 1500 will take around 23gal to fill. If I run it all the way down. Avg price for me, $4.229, $97.26. That will get me around 380 to 400 miles. It takes 5 minutes to fill up. Towing 5000 to 7000# it drops to around 200 miles. But I'm back on the road in what is, near as makes no difference, no time flat.
@@MrPland1992 Its come down a bit since I made this post. I paid $3.91 Monday for premium. I think 87 is at $3.22. I should have noted, those prices mentioned were for 93oct.
13:25 puts a HUGE stress on the Entire system. That statement. Explains perfectly why EV isn't yet "up to par". Until electricity can be delivered Quickly and efficiently, what's the point. 🤷
The real cost of "filling up" must include the $40,000 price tag for the truck battery, which wears out in around 15 years. That's $2,666 per year just for the battery, now you add in the electric charging costs.
A battery that you can charge to only 60 percent of what you could when it was new is considered "worn out". This usually happens long before 15 years. A more realistic estimate is 7 years if you run deep cycles (discharging most of the battery energy before recharging) or up to 12 years running shallow cycles (low mileage per day and keeping battery topped up). A truck battery is much more likely to be run using deep cycles....especially when hauling a load or when towing. A Tesla 3 or cheaper EV for daily commutes makes economic sense....anything larger does not. An EV semi-truck is especially hard to make economically feasible when the weight of the batteries in order to get the range you need approaches the weight of the load you are trying to haul. When bringing in the cost of a battery change you get to a point of diminishing returns. Democrat politicians only look at the best case scenario and think that everyone drives that way so everyone should be forced to change to EV by letting gas prices go up. They do not even consider that most people do not drive shallow cycle. They only consider the city dwellers that vote their way and are already big proponents of EVs. Hopefully the next election will remove these short term thinkers out of power.
@Michael Jorgensen Tru.. no different from these batteries in your cell phone, when they age you can only charge em to %70 instead of the fully charged %100
@@terrelle5087 Newer phones will even trick you by adjusting themselves to show a full 100 percent charge even after 5 years old as mine did. But when it only lasts 60 to 70 percent of what it did when it was new....it is obvious that the battery is indeed deteriorating.
Gonna run into some real issues in areas like DC, NYC, etc where communtes are 1.5 hours each way assuming no traffic events. I lived in Fredericksburg, VA and spent upwards of 4 hours on a one way commute from DC on many occassions due to traffic. I think EVs are going to have issues in those environments. When you get to the under ground parking for instance in DC your vehicle is not going to be able to be charged when they literally stack the vehicle 3 deep. There are going to be many many problems that are going to leave people stranded at a much higher rate than gas.
EV'S do not use energy by the minute. You could literally be stuck in a snow storm for 3 days running the heat to stay moderately warm and the infotainment softly for news and entertainment from near a full charge. All this fear in unfounded
@@CarlWithACamera About the same range. This guy said the Hammer EV is terrible and it gets 1 mile per kw hour and the gas Hummer is realistically 10 miles per gallon. So I would say more or less the same range.
@@bradmagnuson6963 With a pump that is powered by gasoline... Charging an electric car with a diesel generator is inefficient but driving a pump with this generator is efficient. A gas station has diesel to run a diesel generator, I think.
@@MickeyMishra If you actually believe electricity will be more expensive than fossil fuels then you should rejoice. It'll give gas, diesel, and natgas more reason to exist at the consumer level as people buy home backup generators which will also be used to charge their electric vehicles. On a serious note, what unregulated technology has gotten more expensive over time while providing less utility to the consumer? 10 years from now the solar panels installed today will be providing free power. The minimal costs to maintain them will be well within the budget of today's power rates. There is a also reasonable chance a standard priced home will have a solar tile roof by default. Materials aren't the major cost, it's location and personnel. Los Angeles where I grew up the median cost of a home is 1M and selling your home for 1.2M by upgrading the roof to solar tiles is something Californian's absolutely would do.
So between $69.44 - $96.32? (13:38) Wow! I had no idea charging a Hummer EV would be that expensive! It's definitely a good reminder to be mindful of the cost of our energy usage.
How much does it cost to fill up a Hummer? Hummer H2 has a fuel capacity of 32 gallons. Gasoline at my local station today was $2.68. 2.68×32 is $85.76 for 1 tank of gas. Of course you will be filling of rather often since the fuel economy is about 9-10 miles per gallon.Dec 24, 2019
High price to charge, and don't forget you have a high payment on the vehicle as well. Even if you pay cash in full for the vehicle , it will take years to break even with the gas version. The gas version would be more efficient on the environment and your wallet. Then you have an explosive, unstable vehicle in your garage. O don't forget high insurance rates, if you can get the insurance in the coming years.
I find that talking about nickel n dime driving energy is pointless without talking about cost of installing house charger, frequency of tire ware, average repair cost, as we know today at -2F EV lots all over the midwest are now repair lots waiting for mother nature to fix these vehicles because they won't charge. Nice.
@@bighowardshsnUSE SODIUM TO STORE HEAT. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS BUT GOVERNMENT DONT WANT THINGS SOLVED. NASA AND STIRLING. UNIT RAN UNDER FULL LOAD NON STOP 14 YEARS
@@ronniewall492 considering how heavily subsidized EVs have to be I don't think oil companies have anything to worry about. Btw. All caps is generally considered rude. Just say'n.
Meanwhile the guy with the $500 Pontiac sun fire filled up in 3 min and is at the party with your girl 😅. Standing in the parking lot 👍 and paying a lot for it . Win win
I had a 78 sunfire with Iron Duke motor and the Coldest AC I've ever felt. Paid 200 in 88 had it 5 years. But I love the Hummer, just no way I can justify "saving our planet" with that.
A quick tip for tesla users, am sure most of you may already know this, If not - Try supercharging between morning 7-10 AM / 11.00 AM or in the evening after 8.00 PM. superchargers especially in the cities have this option of double price if you are charging between 11.00 AM - 7.59 PM. I saw super chargers in NY city that said $0.23 KWH if charging in the morning or evening, but $0.56 if charging during the day.
They made the cheap charging times unreasonable for superchargers in California. Off peak ends at 8am and doesn't start till 12am. It used to be 10am ended off peak and 10pm started off peak.
Nice, Kyle! I think the gross capacity is lower than people think. In fact, it might not have a buffer at all. The NCMA Ultium cells are supposed to be ~100 Ah, so depending on nominal voltage (3.65 to 3.7 V per cell), the gross capacity might only be 213 kWh.
Does this car have an OBD II port? Wonder if any rich enthusiast will find the PID codes for cell voltage, temperatures, component powers etc like they did with the cheaper Chevy Bolt EV and Chevy Spark EV
@@Infinion The OBD2 codes for capacity are, in my experience, extremely unreliable. In my Bolt EV, I was seeing a +/- 5 kWh margin of error in reported capacity. I found the car's Energy Usage screen to be far more accurate at tracking capacity with a +/- 1 kWh margin of error.
@@Nebula1701 Okay, so it looks like the pack is 219.5 kWh gross. I can't speak to the accuracy of the claims, but based on a couple of online sources, the cells are 103 Ah with a 3.7 V nominal capacity. So 576 cells would have a total gross capacity of 219.5 kWh.
@@newscoulomb3705 Yeah that's what I've been noticing for the Spark EV (Bolt EV PIDs are compatible). For example it suggested 14.3 kWh when the Energy Usage screen showed I dissipated closer to 14.8 kWh. That 500 Wh accounts for a 10% variance. edit: and that was from 100% to 3.99%
@@wojciechmuras553 If that includes battery heating, that sounds about right. The Bolt EV's heater will draw ~10 kW max power between the cabin and battery heater (about 3 kW just for the battery).
@@newscoulomb3705 It's similar with the Spark EV (18 kWh new, 12-14kWh today). 6-7kW PTC heater/dehumidifier in winter + 2.5kW seperate PTC battery heater if pack is below 5ºC. Battery temps increase by about 1-2ºC/min and the HVAC loop heats up extremely quick, within a minute before it drops to 1-2kW so it doesn't happen for long. However while driving and not preconditioning, or level 1 charging, battery heater throttles to 500W-1kW.
@@Infinion Yes, I did a demonstration once, though hard to communicate through video. People asked me to run the heater at full blast in the Bolt EV (so ~7 kW just for cabin), but even with the outside temperatures under 30 F, I had to turn it off after a few minutes. It's just too much heat to output for a long period of time unless the temperatures are extremely low (say sub 0 F).
I wonder if it’s complimentary charge because of a communication problem with the payment services from that charger. In other words, it keeps the ability the charge open even when you don’t have the ability to pay. Seems like a long shot, but keeping the customer experience high May pay off better than closing a charger while they work out a simple fix for that charger.
It's probably something else, but I agree they could stand to benefit from some positive customer experience. I'm hoping to get an EV soon, but one of the things keeping me a little hesitant is the maturity of DC charging - not in terms of just geographical coverage and equipment reliability but also getting the payment systems and stupid mobile apps to actually work properly all the time.
@@ailivac yes. It’s still a little wonky depending. Tesla supercharging is solid. Some places have super old and slow chargers. Most of the time you don’t need to charge. Only on road trips. Still using my hybrid for road trips.
We need to remember that these charging costs include zero for state/federal highway taxes. As more EVs hit the roads, states and the fed are going to need to find a way to tax them to keep our streets and roads in good shape. Since they typically weigh more than equivalent gas vehicles, the rates may be even higher than gas tax rates. In my state (MI) we pay 28.6 cents/gallon for state tax, and 18.4 cents/gallon federal tax for a total of 47 cents/gallon. Average state gas price is $2.81, so that comes to almost 17% in gasoline tax. Expect charging rates to increase by at least this much in the near future.
Nevada says they will charge EV's by the mile, payable when renewing registration (plates) ICE cars already pay thru fuel sales. They haven't started the payment yet, they say they are still working out the details.
The Hummer has pack switching and that causes drops during charge sessions. The two packs are in series for 800V and the HVAC runs on 400V, so they switch to keep the two halves balanced
Totally agree. People dont realize the strain that fast charging puts on the grid as it is. The newly proposed mega chargers have the same draw on the grid as 4000 homes in real time. To support high amounts of fast charging the grid needs to project high amount of electricity usage and keep ramped up on electrical production to provide the real time need further increasing power plant emissions.
I scootered by the other day and spotted the Hummer parked in the street! It really surprised me how it didn't seem THAT big. They really committed to the bit with this one haha
@@echo-channel77 Correct NO FREE LUNCH Someone( All of us) are paying taxes or I mean my Great Grandchildren will be paying taxes (investments) in politition speak for that FREE Charging.
Imagine in the hot summer heat when every home is running their AC on full blast and electric companies are begging for mercy and are forced to quadruple the price of charging.
@latinsizer Finally someone gets what I’ve been saying all along. People think that once EV’s have been forced on us that we’ll all be getting electricity for free. It’s gonna cost just as much to charge an EV as it will to gas your car up, if not more. These power companies are still run by greedy sociopathic narcissists.
I didn't even bother to watch the click baiting video and just did a google search of, "how much to fully charge Hummer EV" that took two seconds to do. It seems at some fast charging stations like, Electrify America, it does cost about 100 bucks, but at some other charging stations that charge by the minute, it would only cost $50 or $37 depending on a person's plan. If you charge at home, it only costs $16 -$30 to fully charge. So this is why people need to actually fact check BS videos like this.
The ultimate kicker for EVs is if the unavoidable situation occurs where you run out of electricity and get stranded. With a gas car you can call for assistance and someone will bring you a couple gallons. In an EV.....it's a long and expensive tow ride.
There are tow companies that have charging built into their trucks. It's not as fast as dumping 3 gallons of gas in, but most time you don't need to go that far to the next charger. Plus the last time you ever ran out of fuel should have been when you were 16 years old, unless you are an extraordinarily irresponsible person.
Or you could make sure you don't drive too far on empty, & push it. Its really no different than driving around a gas car near empty, w/no money or credit cards or wallet & dead phone? Stupid thing to do, but you still see dummies all the time begging for change while your pumping gas?Giving you some sob story about how they live an hr away & ran outta gas, so they & their equally brilliant 5 friends are stranded & can't get home? How they all fit in a 98 civic is one of Earths great mysteries? And they all still wonder why their always broke?
A plug in hybrid is the only way to go. Plug it in at home and use electric to go to work and the grocery store. Use gas when going on trips. Or they need to start figuring out hydrogen and put those into gas stations everywhere. That would solve all the problems.
Cost is comparable, but time is not! It may take 10-15 minutes for gas versus nearly 3 hours! Even smaller EVs take an hour or more to "fill up." Brag all you want, but this is not a family trip vehicle.
We are not ready to transition to electric vehicles. I am curious what is actually powering the charging stations. It's it coal? Free for the user but what is the real costs on the backend. Is it any better for the environment?
Aluminum comes from bauxite. If you are familiar with the process of getting the aluminum from the bauxite you have to wonder how many acres of solar panels it would require. I worked in an aluminum plant for years. Our monthly electric bill ran $250,000 to $300,000. How many solar panels are needed to cover that bill? The power plants are burning natural gas around here
Yes and no, coal is better than a bunch of ICEs(not to mention refining gasoline) but still not great once you factor in the cost of emissions to make the EV
EV charging stations are a great reason why we should be expanding nuclear power stations. If they are delusional enough to think ICE sales will be banned by 2035 imagine how many charging stations will have to go up and how many cities will have Megawatts of power being pulled from the grid in one square block areas a day. I could see some dense cities needing to provide a gigawatt per square mile. This will also be a terrorists wet dream.
EA charger screen showed $102.31 member savings screen, does that mean if you weren’t a member, cost would have been over $198? Also, let’s discuss EA raising rates when they offer chargers that work consistently.😊
Loveland, CO has a 6.7% sales tax (local and state combined) so that brings the price to $102.77 and $74.09, respectively. Dunno why the screen showed a few cents off though (Perhaps tax rate is not exactly 6.7% but that's what Google tells me)
@@williamerazo3921 pretty unbelievable, my f150 takes less $65 to fill now and goes 380mi on average.... But it's almost 1/2 the weight of this thing. (Yes I know home charging is cheaper)
For reference, a 2020 Toyota Corolla with a 1.8 liter engine no turbo charger and a 10 gallon tank gets 450 miles on a full tank. 40+ mpg on level terrain. 3 minutes to refuel for $30 at $3/gallon.
In Ontario Electrify Canada can’t charge by kWh (due to a law that states only the hydro company can charge by kwh) So we are charged by time which is around $20 /hr.
In Georgia, an overnight residential EV charging of 224kwh would cost $3.14. Amazing how greatly the cost to charge varies across the country and by method. With ICE vehicles the most expensive gas in California probably is at most two times the least expensive gas elsewhere in the country. Hopefully that gap between 2X for ICE and 30+ for EVs can be tightened. Maybe as more charging stations are installed and more charging companies enter the market, along with some regulatory changes, the cost difference will lessen.
yes i'm also on ga power offering 0.01499/kwh overnight, but there is also a fuel fee of 0.02/kwh as well as other taxes and fees making it closer to 0.04/kwh total. So a 224kwh charge is roughly $8.96
At my apartment in Jersey City NJ 224kWh would cost me $37.18 At my parents house (they have solar) it will cost them around $3 Unfortunately at my apartment my EVSE is only 20A and it’ll take 45 hours to charge to full. My electric panel is only 60A for my entire apartment and so to play it safe I installed a 20A EVSE. In 5 years no breakers ever blew yet.
Charge point chargers (even though slower by quit a bit) cost 1/3 less that Electrify America. They changed their pricing last year. I have an EV6 and used to charge from to 80% for $11, now it’s like $32.
My buddy canceled his order for the EV Hummer when he found out he could not tow behind his RV. This vehicle needs an MCS connector like Atilis and Cummins is using.
Great. On a trip charge up with a 5% reserve. Run into a snow storm and get stuck in the middle of the highway. Great plan. All of this is just too dangerous if you are away from major routes or cities when winter is real. I want to know what -40° does to charging and range. Also, is this thing one of the ones that locks up if the battery has no power left? Some of them do, and if they die in the middle of the road in a traffic jam it takes a crane to clear the road. Hardly a good idea.
At the current price of gas. I can fill up my 2011 Chevy Silverado with 2 tanks of gas for about $ 140 bucks and I don’t have to sit and wait for hours to refill it or worry about finding a place to refuel it . And I can also bring extra gas in cans for going off road . In my opinion the EVs available now are like toys . I guess they are great if you only use them in town . But actually traveling or going off road in a EV isn’t practical and would be a huge inconvenience that would eat up your time traveling.
And you don't even mention the fact that you can probably average 400-500 miles on a single tank of gas in highway driving. You could get from LA to San Francisco on a single tank and in about 6 hours. It would take 8-10 hours in an EV.
For comparison to fill up a Hummer H2 with the 32 gallon tank @3.00 gallon current price about $96! yikes to both of these fuel costs. But lets remember if you charged this overnight at home ....well for me it would only cost about $25
I'm pretty sure of that, the only unknown is exactly when that will happen, probably around when there are slightly more EVs than ICE cars on the road, at the latest...
they look very appealing right now, but they haven't started adding in tax, not to mention as more people buy ev's the demand for electric will go up along with the cost
On top of that states will need to find new ways to fund road repairs. Look for much higher registration fees and/or an EV road tax in the coming years.
Quantifying metrics to charge electric vehicles, and the costs of it should be made available to everyone just like gasoline. Prices at the gas stations are posted and miles per gallon are listed in the vehicles information.
While helping out some line workers with a construction project I asked what they thought about current EVs. All of them said they aren’t realistic for every house as the grid is strained without them.
They are better for the Americas and places that have homes with garages etc. It's nice and cheap to plug in over night to a 220v During discount hours and it's ready to go for the next day. I'm hoping one day we can have more access for hydrogen type cars and trucks too as that would be a distributor type dream, quieter and higher efficiency than diesel/gas.
@@pauljefferies9087 Hi; The linemen are saying, Right now, before the EV Chargers are put in every home, the electrical grid is straining to keep up with the present usage.
I would like to see how well you do driving it through New Mexico say go across then start from the Mexico border and go north through the Gila Mountains. Then cross Colorado through Kansas. Be interesting to see how far you can go, time spent driving, time stopped to charge and total trip time vs a gas powered Hummer. Another good test would be 2 pick-ups 1 gas and 1 electric in a farming/ranch situation. Hauling hay, trailers, equipment, run to town for parts etc
Yeah, there's all that, and then there's the reality of how MOST people drive, which is around town, running errands, etc. If you're a farmer, then stick to your diesel.
I would double check what the rate of residential charging is where you live. There is your per kw rate but there probably is a per kw delivery rate also. Where I live it is 4.49 cents per kw. On top of that there is a 5.12 per kw delivered charge. So at first glance one may assume that I'm only paying 4.49 cents per kw to charge our EV's but in reality it would be 9.61 cents per kw to charge due to added delivery fee. Look a little closer at your itemized billing. Still cheap electricity but if your rates are higher it adds up but still should be lower than DC fast charging.
Note to self: If you’re going to drain the battery by running the heater, make sure you cool the cabin temperature below freezing so you don’t fall asleep after two hours and 45 minutes of charging. 🤭😁 Nice perspective. You need an extra day to do the 0-100 AC charge test. 😉
@@wojciechmuras553 Haha for sure, but isn't 42 gallons of diesel about 1,700 kWh of energy? By comparison the hummer ev has about a 5 gallon tank at its efficiency. That's insane but more range is super impractical because of the weight, cost, and our energy infrastructure. These vehicles would be so much better with an efficient fuel generator for range extension. Pure battery just makes no sense for what it's designed for. I completely agree with Kyle that this is just a Halo car for GM's Ultium battery architecture that they put all their eggs into.
Took delivery of my 22' EUV a little over a month ago, love it! Got a premier with Sun/sound/super cruise. All my charging is at home on the 32A EVSE that came with the car. Rates are 9.5 cents per kWh (delivered after taxes and fees) Only costs me a bit over $6 to go from 0 -> 100% and I'm seeing about 245 miles of range with the Cross Climate 2 tires I put on it.
Germany home 30cent/kW (new contracted 50+), DC around 50cent (Ionity & Tesla reaching 70cent when member, 80ish nonmember). Reaching same price levels like gasoline...And Germany was the one with like 60% renweables 😅 Something is fishy here. Alot.
The Green Revolution on the Continent is now showing its true color. Everything is turning to s*** brown. And Germany is leading the way. So much for the enery alliance with Putin.
The power infrastructure of this country is not capable of sustaining total electric vehicles or society. Every utility will have to increase power production, transmission lines, substations. That costs a great deal of money. Electric rates will increase substantially. All this is a requirement for total electric life. Where is that discussion?
Tesla new semi requires a megawatt charger for 30min allegedly - the hover damn produces 11 megawatts a day…. We’re not ready - but I’m gonna keep trying!
So what I'm understanding is that my 2012 5.0 6 speed 4x4 f150 can go 710miles @ 55mph 604miles @ 70mph for $117, takes 12 minutes max to fill, while an EV goes half or less the distance for about the same cost to fill, so in 12°F at night driving at 70mph with heat on medium, 40% highbeams usage + fog lights with my stereo at make you deaf loudness, I can travel further than you can at the same cost and spend less time refueling.. Goodjob sir you sold me on a 2018 ford f150 with another 5.0 paired with a 10 speed to replace my 2012.
Just the gasoline predecessor, the Hummer EV is an exercise in excess. In contrast, I have an Aptera on order. Which will sip electricity. Or in our use case, NEVER get plugged in.
12kW=12,000 watts of heat! The space heater you have in your bedroom is only 1500 watts. So, the heater in there is the same as 8 household space heaters!!
Yes, but the space heater in your bedroom is only adding a few degrees to an already warm space. Stick a 1500 watt hair dryer in a car that is not pre-warmed on a 20 degree F day and it will not be warm very fast. These exercises make one realize how much wasted heat energy is associated with internal combustion.
48A onboard is a bit small, but if you figure even people with long commutes that use 50% capacity (150mi) daily, that's roughly a 10 hour charge overnight, certainly doable. I doubt people buying this are towing on the daily, so that shouldn't be a concern. I wonder if they didn't go higher because majority of EVSE's are only 40 or 48 amp max. But yes, you make a good point. Ideally you'd want enough OBC power capability to fill ~80% overnight (8-10hr) on any EV. Probably should have made it at least 64A (80A breaker). The problem is dedicating more than a 60A breaker for EV charging on a 200A service isn't always ideal, depending on what else you have in the house. If you have one of these and a Rivian/Lightning/etc, that you drive daily, you might need more than a 200A service! I dunno, these big vehicles would seem to be hard on the grid, even as we improve. Luckily they're a pretty small percentage compared to EV cars and CUVs. My 100+ mile commutes in my Model 3 are easily sustainable with only a 30A circuit, even in the winter.
200A ? I would bet that 80% of homes max out at 100A service to the panels. Especially older homes, they're 60-80A. In Canada if you wanted more power and had to go up to 400A, firstly, they probably won't even let you in residential. Secondly, it's 20 grand to get hydro to do that kind of upgrade here for a commercial shop.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 I grew up in a 1903 house that started with ZERO amp electrical service. 35 amp service was added in 1923. 100 amp was installed in 1959. 200 amp was installed in 1990. At least that house had all knob and tube removed in 1959 when my parents bought the house.
In the future when most people are driving EV peak hours will be overnight If you don't' have the ability to charge at home lines to charge are going to be horrendous. They will have signs like at an amusement park, 6 hour etc..wait from here to charge.
This guy seems to be in to EVs for fun and enjoying the sheer complexity of the game plus in addition money is no object which tells us so much about the market for these devices. This market has topped out and needing interest from the mass population with more practical needs which is a big problem for those dreamers in our governments.
You talked about charging it for the first 10 minutes of the video-finally you plugged it in. Nice spread sheet showing options. GM made very few of these. I think it’s cool too.
Very interesting video you sure know how to capture an audience, I charge my EV-6 20-80% in the valley of the sun for $5.40, but actually for free for I have a solar system.
And you got it for free, your car too? Oh,you got subsidies -- good on ya',you really needed those. Now calculate the price without any "subsidies" and pay those back on my account ASAP before I retreive them myself. I'm saving the planet starting with myself first,just like you.
Hopefully you don't encounter the shutdown issue that TFLEV experienced when they first got theirs. It is giant though and so heavy as well, much prefer more efficient EV's and smaller size.
I’d be really interested to see towing performance on this beast because it’s already so inefficient that the trailer might not have as much of an impact as well as crazy fast charging.
Due to its high energy consumption, it isn’t really charging that quickly. Hummer charging at 300 kW is only adding about 300 miles of range per hour. A typical sedan EV would be adding range at over 1000 miles per hour at that same charge rate. That said, it’s better than the F-150 Lightning!
@@bnkwupt That's true. I was only referring to 350kw+ charging speed. That is a crazy amount of energy (max electrical supply to 7 us homes all at once) and way more than the Lightning or Rivan so it would help when towing when everything only gets 1 mi/kwh.
@@gradyluyt6998 I’d expect the Hummer to see the same 50%+ reduction when towing that other vehicles see. Kyle’s 1.1 mi/kWh might turn into 0.6 mi/kWh. Hopefully we’ll know soon!
I’m always in such a rush and can’t imagine stopping to charge and have to figure something else to do while waiting Imagine waiting on your wife to get ready to go somewhere and knowing you’ll have to stop to charge on the way Never get anywhere on time ever again Lol
Yea, this was a deal breaker for me when I was EV shopping. I'm usually a last-minute person, so this would never work for me. I bought a Porsche instead.
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$100 at a DC fast charger station.
Clearly you don't know much about electricity bills. You didn't take into account any of the delivery charges and other fees that you get charged for using electricity at home. Your total cost is way higher than 7 cents a KW.
@@Mack_Dingo I'm at 09:56 of the video when does he exactly mention the cent price of a minute?
ps you for got to include What YOUR time is worth while sitting in the parking lot charging your truck for 2 1/2 hours.
YOURE A JOKE.
SOLAR PANELS ARE A JOKE.
NASA WENT SOLAR IN THE SIXTIES NO JOKE. THEY USED A SYSTEM THATS SAFE CHEAP CLEAN.
SALT USED FOR HEAT STORAGE.
$100 at an EA station. $15 at home. You just saved 18 minutes of your life.
Yah. Go ahead charge the hummer at home. It’ll only take like three days😂
Thanks!
Thanks man🤣😂🤣😂
I appreciate you, my guy.
Why the significant disparity? From home to a station?
Video starts at 14:02 . The price is $102.31 GOOD LUCK EV
i know right. i skipped right to that point..
Thank you 👍
Thanks! Saved me time. His video is similar to EV charging times.
THE HERO WE DONT DESERVE BUT NEED
@@bradspringer2372 long winded? haha
Hummer being a guzzler is absolutely hilarious. Some things never change.
Welcome to another video of another car I cannot afford 😢
evs are a joke.
@@American_Made A hummer H2 gets 11 mpg and has a 32 gallon tank. That's $95.00 for 352 miles. If you're smart about your charging, the cost is a fraction of the cost of gas. I'm no EV worshiper, but paying less for "fuel" is no joke. How many people drive over 200 miles on a daily basis. Almost no one.
This is an E-tank
@@spuriouseffect Oh I know. This is no slight against EVs, and really more of a funny observation given how Hummer is pretty much THE American stereotype car.
Wait until the government begins adding a tax on electricity used in EV's to make up fot the tax losses from the reduced gas sales.
Then and only then will we know the real operating cost of an EV.
I charge my Kia EV9 with electricity generated by 34 solar panels on the roof of my home.
They well sooner or later your on point with that.
EV sales are heavily subsidized right now. They're pushing it hard.
"The problem with communism is eventually you run out of other people's money."
There's already taxes and bullshit fees attached to my electricity bill. My electricity provider doesn't care what I'm doing with the electricity whether it be charging my vacuum or my EV.
The electric guzzler of the EV world 😂
Yeah 213 kW lol :-) That's like 2.6 Model Ys (long range). GM is like the Intel/Nvidia of EVs... 'oh you want more performance? Well then, more power!' Not more efficiency.
What a 9k lb pile of garbage.
@@declinox yeah 1000HP is not necessary for "normal" driving I can see 500 HP and 500 foot pounds of torque for towing but there is no reason for anything over that for driving or towing but I guess they need that much because it weighs 10,000 ibs
@@declinox yeah 1000HP is not necessary for "normal" driving I can see 500 HP and 500 foot pounds of torque for towing but there is no reason for anything over that for driving or towing but I guess they need that much because it weighs 10,000 ibs
Cost per mile looks about the same as a monster SUV using $4 gasoline.
This hummer uses twice as much electricity as I use in a month for home.
Hummer: fuck the planet
All electric cars will cost a lot once there are many more out there as electricity costs will skyrocket. In turn poor people will not be able to watch TV anymore either
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@@darkfoxx87 That's their goal
@@xzysyndrome ev will bankrupt u
When I charged my Nissan Leaf at home in Oregon at 8.3 cents per KWH the cost to replenish 200 miles of driving was equal to buying a gallon of gas. So I got the equivalent of 200 miles per gallon.
How much did it cost to install a charger at home?
Wait until your cells health diminish and your bars go down and you have to replace your cells. And those are air cooled cells so they degrade pretty quick. 😬
@@MrNismopro Im no Tesla fan but there are lots of them that have driven 200k miles and the battery is still fine.
@@hanse81 Some made it to almost 400k
@@shaydesofblue2281 Old age is probably worse then high milage. The ones that drive an EV 400k miles in a relatively short time probably take care of the car.
Even in EV form, the Hummer still manages to make the ozone layer it’s b*tch.😂
And with few exceptions will be powered by 100 percent fossil fuels. Possibly even coal. True coal rolling there.
So my understanding is that depending on the scenario / pricing, theres potential for not much savings. Eventually power companies will be like oil companies, costs to charge will go up way more once more people jump on board, long waits to fully charge, more resources to build the cars, and what it takes to ( manufacture / Recycle / dispose / replace ) an EV battery. So much greener alright.
@@Intechdude300It’s impossible to make everyone go electric, probably not even half with our current infrastructure. Electricity to charge your car will eventually become more expensive than gasoline for an equivalent vehicle.
@@M4X1 It already is in some states! My electricity cost is $0.32/kWh (In California), at that rate, it's $71.68 to fully charge this EV from home with a miniscule range of barely 300 miles. My 2017 Ford Explorer Sport fills up right now with $70 and gets me almost 400 miles to the tank, EV ain't looking soo good now, is it? lol
@@grayrabbit2211 happening in China 😆
I live off grid, and produce 2 to 4 kilowatts a day in solar depending on the weather. I have a refrigerator, a freezer, and two water pumps, and of course all the charging of electronics. Along with kitchen counter top appliances. Gas stove and water heater.
On average I use the generator on dark cloudy days, and use 10 gallons of gas. (Still adding to solar system)
Just to give an idea of how much power that EV uses. It would take me around 60 to 80 days to charge that EV, without using any power for my daily use.
how many square feet of solar panes do you have? I have a hard time believing that Tesla can power their charging stations with the few solar canopies they have setup in certain areas.
@@skmetal7 not sure of the square footage, because my solar array is based off watts, I have a mixed sets of solar panels. This means that solar panels depending on the manufacturer, they come in an arrangement of measurements.
Which as it stands I have only have 1205 watts an hour at peak performance.
Yet daily use is a measurement that is different to achieve, without creating resistance. Due to gage of wire that such measurement device requires, I have not measured this parameter.
I also have wired thr cabin with over gauged wire, to reduce resistance.
Always adding to the 12 volt system.
The thought is to develop a 12 volt system that handles all my basic needs. Then build the 24 volt system after the 12 volt system can support what I need to keep everything going, even if it's bad weather for a few days.
I am just about ready to add another 720 watts. Which due to a 12 volt system. That panels were a lot larger for what they receive for watts.
The energy hub has a roof line 12x6, and 12x8, so 168sq ft.
The main point is that, yes people should learn their energy consumption, before thinking that they are saving the planet, with buying an EV.
Solar understands watts more then anything, and a 1000 watts is a kilowatt.
When thinking solar a single kilowatt is a lot of energy. So when buying even a blender the about ot watts that it takes to operate this item is a deep consideration.
Many companies now use a plow against this understanding by not illustrating the watts. This why understanding Ohms law comes into play. If one knows this simple math, then it's not difficult to determine whether to buy it or not.
Solar is not as simple as it seems, yet it is. When one gets it, this will.make sense.
I saw a video that said one EV is like running 25 refrigerators in your home all at once.
@@eugeniaskelley5194 probably not to far from the truth.
The last year I have gotten down to average of 0.85 kWh pr. day (without heating) My electric car uses about 15 times that amount.
The charge time is the killer. Filling a diesel tank for comparable range takes only a few minutes. And if you need to wait for others ahead of you to charge, that's a *really* big deal (whereas with diesel it's only short wait)
CA averages $0.28 per KWh, which would cost over $200 to fill it. Then mandating a transition where they can't meet electric power demand today?? Haven't seen such a collosal idiotic idea this big since mortgage companies made NINJA loans (No Income - No Job, Application) for $500,000+
homes.
The thing is you’re comparing a showpiece to a utility vehicle the hummer is to show off it’s not efficient and not cost effective hummers usually aren’t whereas other ev trucks and cars can get around 0-80 in under around 30-40 minutes? That adds hundreds of miles
@@aidenpommee766 the thing is, f250's or even f350's or equivalent would be in the same situation as this humvee if they were electric.
@@Cavemanheartrock i.e., impractical in today's world, using current technology!
@@echo-channel77 your math is wrong. At $0.28/kWh that would be about $61.
I can fill my 38 gallon truck up with gas, while he’s telling us about charging. Love your videos so not busting your chops. I watched some of your EV reviews during the pandemic and after, you were trying to change in the winter, and so many chargers were not working, and you were honest about it, so thanks
I always think about the massive upgrade/overhaul of the electrical infrastructure that would be required if there were hundreds of millions of these things on the road.
@@CognitiveDissident.Thats why getting into hyper-efficiency is the way of the future for commuters. Once you can break 300EMPG (tesla are 80empg and Aptera I'd 350 empg) you finally are in the realm of being able to charge your car strictly on roof solar.
Why not cover a Tesla in solar power? Because you'd be lucky to get 5 miles a day on over $1,000 of solar equipment.
But cars like Aptera can get 40 miles a day from the sun, not because their solar is amazing (it's only like 700 watts) but because they use the energy the sun created so efficiently.
@@the_oc_brewpub_sound_guy3071 thats why hybrid or PHEV is the way to go right now, less waste with lithium batteries.
@@Fr4nkSanchez or just make everything else efficient like an Aptera
Congratulations. You've successfully managed to make a 20 sec video last as long as it's takes your vehicle to charge.
I was thinking the same thing I kept jumping till I found what I wanted.
@@jstef928 😂😂😂
All that to recommend EA INCREASE their charging cost. Seriously? Who says that? “Promote viable business models.” As if he’s owns an energy company. 😫😂 But, hey, good job on the stats and getting to nap in a hummer. 👌🏼
@Anthony Diaz Exactly a brilliant business model. Make a vehicle that cost 3 times as much as a traditional gas car and then make it cost the same to fill at the pump. As long as you bribe politicians to force people to buy it. Also don't forget the tax breaks and incentives stolen from welfare to subsidize the manufacturer. What an incredible savings. Meanwhile still burning fossil to generate electricity to be pumped through inefficient transmission lines. 20 tons of Co2 per vehicle built equalling 4 years of driving a gas vehicle only to have it scraped in 5 years because it ain't built to last. Government saving the world one business at a time.
Agree, long winded drivel before getting to the point. Not going to follow this channel. 👎
Can't wait to start seeing people fighting over these charging stations 😂
Mugging.
Victims of Chuggings...
There is a thing called proper charging demeanor.
Imagine needing to evacuate an area due to outages caused by an oncoming storm/hurricane, being on 20 percent charge, and the stations are all being used, or are not even working! 🤣
@@randybaumery5090
Happened in Florida with Hurricane Charlie. We have a home in Florida. No EVs for us.
Keep the tank full and have a spare Jerry Can to evacuate when we need to.
I did the cost calculation. My 4x4 full-size pickup has a 375 mile range per tank and would be about $90 to fill from empty. Takes less than 10 minutes to fill.
not only that but average 4x4 trucks average msrp is between 50 and 65000... that hummer ev is nearly 80k... not factoring in bullshit dealer markups that'll easily bring it past 100k...
It’s also has 1000 hp. Your f150 has 385 ish.
I love EVs but I think you should keep your 4x4 until you have no other choice.
@@msolar1041 Great it is fast but can not pull my boat 300 miles. Which is how far it is without charging stations.
@@msolar1041 where are you going use that 1000hp up ur ..s it can’t even tow for more than 100 miles
The continual battery drain on an EV is like having a gas tank with a slow leak.
Right?
Damn right!! My Duramax Silverado is probably just as efficient...
@@alanj7306 Your Duramax is more efficient and the hummer EV battery has a life span of 10 yrs or so, at the estimated replacement cost of 20 - 30 thousand in ten years.... long before you wear out that duramax. I have the baby duramax 4 cyl. in the midsize Colorado ZR2 which I love, especially with getting about 30 mpg hwy and loads of torque. I saw a video of someone measuring the electromagnetic radiation given off inside the cabin of an EV and it measured 1/3 of the radiation emitted from a microwave oven, which is much worse than what a cell phone puts out. At those levels you should FEEL the cancer swelling. Believe it or not but the cure for cancer, according to some testimonies is actually dog de wormer pills which has the active ingredient called " Fenbendazole " that has cured terminally ill patients.
The battery pack replacement is going to cost additional 50k every 5 years plus the shipping, installation, labor, taxes and fees forever.
@@Kingofthehill84lmao you have no idea what you are talking about.
In Germany you can double the cost to charge ! Also the chargers are mostly blocked by other EV in my region.
Home 0,45€ - 0,60€ /kWh
Charger 0,50€ - 0,85€ /kWh
Date: 03.2023
That hummer is actually immense and I live in the Uk where it would never work on our roads, and that charging rate is insane!
They INTENDED for it to be expensive. Politicians don't care one bit if we can't afford it. This helps them CONTROL people. California is doing that by simply shutting down power to charging stations whenever they can't meet demand. They then smuggly snark "Stop charging your vehicles! You're overloading the grid!" They don't care if it works or not. It's all about government abuse and keeping the poor people under their thumb.
Bro that hummer is small is just like the size of a tahoe
He needs to count his time sitting around waiting for the truck to charge.
Exactly, it’s like these EV people have no lives and a bunch of money
Hours
Most people use cheap off-peak electricity while they sleep so charging time isn't an issue. It's much cheaper than going to a public rapid charge which you only do if you have to. Also if you can afford to splurge this much on an EV you'll have the funds for solar panels.
@@Jamessansome solar panels!! Solar panels !!
U think solar panels can charge this massive power hungry car! To do just even that u need atleast half a food ball field cover with solar panels n u must be in places like Vegas or California where u can get SUN for 10 hours. U need so many batteries to save those electricity u produce. Then u might charge ur car for each day I hope. That’s the best scenario here. Using only 5/8 solar panels on roof not proper Sun light will not be efficient enoug to charge this beast
He plays fortnite and mine craft while charging
My 2015 Ram 1500 will take around 23gal to fill. If I run it all the way down. Avg price for me, $4.229, $97.26. That will get me around 380 to 400 miles. It takes 5 minutes to fill up. Towing 5000 to 7000# it drops to around 200 miles. But I'm back on the road in what is, near as makes no difference, no time flat.
Lol these hipsters don't get what's going to happen.... lol biden will lead em all to slaughter
Imagine towing half the weight and then having to wait almost 3 hrs to recharge.
@@patrickriarchy6054 Exactly. Not going to happen in my life time.
wow it’s like $2.75 a gallon here
@@MrPland1992 Its come down a bit since I made this post. I paid $3.91 Monday for premium. I think 87 is at $3.22. I should have noted, those prices mentioned were for 93oct.
13:25 puts a HUGE stress on the Entire system. That statement. Explains perfectly why EV isn't yet "up to par". Until electricity can be delivered Quickly and efficiently, what's the point. 🤷
The real cost of "filling up" must include the $40,000 price tag for the truck battery, which wears out in around 15 years. That's $2,666 per year just for the battery, now you add in the electric charging costs.
Electric cars are for people who have bad math
15 years? more like 5 years!
A battery that you can charge to only 60 percent of what you could when it was new is considered "worn out". This usually happens long before 15 years. A more realistic estimate is 7 years if you run deep cycles (discharging most of the battery energy before recharging) or up to 12 years running shallow cycles (low mileage per day and keeping battery topped up). A truck battery is much more likely to be run using deep cycles....especially when hauling a load or when towing. A Tesla 3 or cheaper EV for daily commutes makes economic sense....anything larger does not. An EV semi-truck is especially hard to make economically feasible when the weight of the batteries in order to get the range you need approaches the weight of the load you are trying to haul. When bringing in the cost of a battery change you get to a point of diminishing returns. Democrat politicians only look at the best case scenario and think that everyone drives that way so everyone should be forced to change to EV by letting gas prices go up. They do not even consider that most people do not drive shallow cycle. They only consider the city dwellers that vote their way and are already big proponents of EVs. Hopefully the next election will remove these short term thinkers out of power.
@Michael Jorgensen Tru.. no different from these batteries in your cell phone, when they age you can only charge em to %70 instead of the fully charged %100
@@terrelle5087 Newer phones will even trick you by adjusting themselves to show a full 100 percent charge even after 5 years old as mine did. But when it only lasts 60 to 70 percent of what it did when it was new....it is obvious that the battery is indeed deteriorating.
Gonna run into some real issues in areas like DC, NYC, etc where communtes are 1.5 hours each way assuming no traffic events. I lived in Fredericksburg, VA and spent upwards of 4 hours on a one way commute from DC on many occassions due to traffic. I think EVs are going to have issues in those environments. When you get to the under ground parking for instance in DC your vehicle is not going to be able to be charged when they literally stack the vehicle 3 deep. There are going to be many many problems that are going to leave people stranded at a much higher rate than gas.
EV'S do not use energy by the minute. You could literally be stuck in a snow storm for 3 days running the heat to stay moderately warm and the infotainment softly for news and entertainment from near a full charge. All this fear in unfounded
@@mvanluven78
Yes they do use energy by the minute or else they wouldn't move.
@@patrickriarchy6054 I think his point is that you aren't moving during a lot of that commute..
@@notaregard
Sure but whether you're moving or not it still uses energy just much less energy.
Electric motors don't use energy when they aren't moving.... There are no constantly idling parts or a transmission w/torque converter.
I have a military Humvee and when the fuel is $5 a gallon it cost me around $100.00 per fill up. Now I feel better.
How far will that take you compared to this electric version?
@@CarlWithACamera About the same range. This guy said the Hammer EV is terrible and it gets 1 mile per kw hour and the gas Hummer is realistically 10 miles per gallon. So I would say more or less the same range.
@@1119-w3u Yes, but if you were out in the boonies, you can carry spare fuel in a can.
@@eugeniaskelley5194I carry a canister of electrons that I can pour in my EV when the battery runs low.
How do you charge it when the grid goes down or there's a blackout or hurricane.
How do you pump gas in the same scenario?
@@bradmagnuson6963 gas generator
@@bradmagnuson6963 gas generator
@@bradmagnuson6963 gas generator
@@bradmagnuson6963 With a pump that is powered by gasoline... Charging an electric car with a diesel generator is inefficient but driving a pump with this generator is efficient. A gas station has diesel to run a diesel generator, I think.
Imagine how much there gonna charge in 10 years to charge your hummer.
HE WILL NEED A NEW BATTERY 50K USD BEFORE THAT
That will be a antique in 10 years
Mark my words. They are going to charge you a premium for EV charging. It will be higher then gas or diesel.
@@MickeyMishra that’s a given.
@@MickeyMishra If you actually believe electricity will be more expensive than fossil fuels then you should rejoice. It'll give gas, diesel, and natgas more reason to exist at the consumer level as people buy home backup generators which will also be used to charge their electric vehicles.
On a serious note, what unregulated technology has gotten more expensive over time while providing less utility to the consumer? 10 years from now the solar panels installed today will be providing free power. The minimal costs to maintain them will be well within the budget of today's power rates. There is a also reasonable chance a standard priced home will have a solar tile roof by default. Materials aren't the major cost, it's location and personnel. Los Angeles where I grew up the median cost of a home is 1M and selling your home for 1.2M by upgrading the roof to solar tiles is something Californian's absolutely would do.
I saw a pre production one a while ago while I was fast charging my EV6. It is huge 😱
So between $69.44 - $96.32? (13:38) Wow! I had no idea charging a Hummer EV would be that expensive! It's definitely a good reminder to be mindful of the cost of our energy usage.
Goated
Level 3 charging that is. That’s not the same for Level 1 and Level 2 charging (home or public)
That’s why u charge it at home
How much does it cost to fill up a Hummer?
Hummer H2 has a fuel capacity of 32 gallons. Gasoline at my local station today was $2.68. 2.68×32 is $85.76 for 1 tank of gas. Of course you will be filling of rather often since the fuel economy is about 9-10 miles per gallon.Dec 24, 2019
High price to charge, and don't forget you have a high payment on the vehicle as well. Even if you pay cash in full for the vehicle , it will take years to break even with the gas version. The gas version would be more efficient on the environment and your wallet. Then you have an explosive, unstable vehicle in your garage. O don't forget high insurance rates, if you can get the insurance in the coming years.
I find that talking about nickel n dime driving energy is pointless without talking about cost of installing house charger, frequency of tire ware, average repair cost, as we know today at -2F EV lots all over the midwest are now repair lots waiting for mother nature to fix these vehicles because they won't charge. Nice.
The more I learn about EVs the less I am willing to ever have anything to do with them.
Reminds me of golf carts which become a pain when you start to have electrical problems and batteries
BECAUSE BI OIL WANTS EV TO FAIL.
NASA HAD SOLAR POWERED CARS IN THE 70 S. GOVERNMENT SAID NO.
@@bighowardshsnUSE SODIUM TO STORE HEAT. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS BUT GOVERNMENT DONT WANT THINGS SOLVED.
NASA AND STIRLING. UNIT RAN UNDER FULL LOAD NON STOP 14 YEARS
@@ronniewall492 considering how heavily subsidized EVs have to be I don't think oil companies have anything to worry about. Btw. All caps is generally considered rude. Just say'n.
@@ronniewall492 i realy wish something would replace the battery thats the electric motors problem otherwise no oil and gas stations would b nice
Meanwhile the guy with the $500 Pontiac sun fire filled up in 3 min and is at the party with your girl 😅. Standing in the parking lot 👍 and paying a lot for it . Win win
I had a 78 sunfire with Iron Duke motor and the Coldest AC I've ever felt. Paid 200 in 88 had it 5 years. But I love the Hummer, just no way I can justify "saving our planet" with that.
Ain’t no sunfire owner filling up their tank 😂😂
@@SidVintageToys😂😂😂 now that’s some funny shit right there!!!
The times where you will need to charge it on the road will be rare. Just charge it at your house overnight and you never need to go to a gas station.
@ent1311 so he have to stay within a hundred mile radius of your home. And then what happen if the grid goes down.
A quick tip for tesla users, am sure most of you may already know this, If not - Try supercharging between morning 7-10 AM / 11.00 AM or in the evening after 8.00 PM. superchargers especially in the cities have this option of double price if you are charging between 11.00 AM - 7.59 PM. I saw super chargers in NY city that said $0.23 KWH if charging in the morning or evening, but $0.56 if charging during the day.
I'll just own a gas car and fill up whenever the fuck I want
Normal in California…
@@OhLinux based activity 👍🏼⛽🚀
@brando….
Go ahead and pay $6 for gas or higher for diesel . Hope u have a hybrid or civic
They made the cheap charging times unreasonable for superchargers in California. Off peak ends at 8am and doesn't start till 12am. It used to be 10am ended off peak and 10pm started off peak.
Maybe I missed it but what mileage do you get with a full charge?
Embarassing question .................hahahaha.......
343 miles. Pathetic for this much energy but it's a Hummer lmao, bloody thing
Nice, Kyle! I think the gross capacity is lower than people think. In fact, it might not have a buffer at all. The NCMA Ultium cells are supposed to be ~100 Ah, so depending on nominal voltage (3.65 to 3.7 V per cell), the gross capacity might only be 213 kWh.
Does this car have an OBD II port? Wonder if any rich enthusiast will find the PID codes for cell voltage, temperatures, component powers etc like they did with the cheaper Chevy Bolt EV and Chevy Spark EV
I believe it's more like 217-222 kWh.
@@Infinion The OBD2 codes for capacity are, in my experience, extremely unreliable. In my Bolt EV, I was seeing a +/- 5 kWh margin of error in reported capacity. I found the car's Energy Usage screen to be far more accurate at tracking capacity with a +/- 1 kWh margin of error.
@@Nebula1701 Okay, so it looks like the pack is 219.5 kWh gross.
I can't speak to the accuracy of the claims, but based on a couple of online sources, the cells are 103 Ah with a 3.7 V nominal capacity. So 576 cells would have a total gross capacity of 219.5 kWh.
@@newscoulomb3705 Yeah that's what I've been noticing for the Spark EV (Bolt EV PIDs are compatible). For example it suggested 14.3 kWh when the Energy Usage screen showed I dissipated closer to 14.8 kWh. That 500 Wh accounts for a 10% variance.
edit: and that was from 100% to 3.99%
12 kw for heating with the heat pump is crazy! I heat my whole house with a heat pump that only pulls 2 kw.
Automotive heat pumps tend to be hybrid (including resistive heating), and cars are terrible for holding heat (unlike homes).
It's for getting to the target temperature as quickly as possible. After just a couple of minutes, it drops to 3-4 kW.
@@wojciechmuras553 If that includes battery heating, that sounds about right. The Bolt EV's heater will draw ~10 kW max power between the cabin and battery heater (about 3 kW just for the battery).
@@newscoulomb3705 It's similar with the Spark EV (18 kWh new, 12-14kWh today). 6-7kW PTC heater/dehumidifier in winter + 2.5kW seperate PTC battery heater if pack is below 5ºC. Battery temps increase by about 1-2ºC/min and the HVAC loop heats up extremely quick, within a minute before it drops to 1-2kW so it doesn't happen for long. However while driving and not preconditioning, or level 1 charging, battery heater throttles to 500W-1kW.
@@Infinion Yes, I did a demonstration once, though hard to communicate through video. People asked me to run the heater at full blast in the Bolt EV (so ~7 kW just for cabin), but even with the outside temperatures under 30 F, I had to turn it off after a few minutes. It's just too much heat to output for a long period of time unless the temperatures are extremely low (say sub 0 F).
I wonder if it’s complimentary charge because of a communication problem with the payment services from that charger. In other words, it keeps the ability the charge open even when you don’t have the ability to pay. Seems like a long shot, but keeping the customer experience high May pay off better than closing a charger while they work out a simple fix for that charger.
It's probably something else, but I agree they could stand to benefit from some positive customer experience.
I'm hoping to get an EV soon, but one of the things keeping me a little hesitant is the maturity of DC charging - not in terms of just geographical coverage and equipment reliability but also getting the payment systems and stupid mobile apps to actually work properly all the time.
@@ailivac yes. It’s still a little wonky depending. Tesla supercharging is solid. Some places have super old and slow chargers. Most of the time you don’t need to charge. Only on road trips. Still using my hybrid for road trips.
We need to remember that these charging costs include zero for state/federal highway taxes. As more EVs hit the roads, states and the fed are going to need to find a way to tax them to keep our streets and roads in good shape. Since they typically weigh more than equivalent gas vehicles, the rates may be even higher than gas tax rates. In my state (MI) we pay 28.6 cents/gallon for state tax, and 18.4 cents/gallon federal tax for a total of 47 cents/gallon. Average state gas price is $2.81, so that comes to almost 17% in gasoline tax. Expect charging rates to increase by at least this much in the near future.
Nevada says they will charge EV's by the mile, payable when renewing registration (plates) ICE cars already pay thru fuel sales. They haven't started the payment yet, they say they are still working out the details.
The Hummer has pack switching and that causes drops during charge sessions. The two packs are in series for 800V and the HVAC runs on 400V, so they switch to keep the two halves balanced
Should have gone straight to 800v for this amount of price
Totally agree. People dont realize the strain that fast charging puts on the grid as it is. The newly proposed mega chargers have the same draw on the grid as 4000 homes in real time. To support high amounts of fast charging the grid needs to project high amount of electricity usage and keep ramped up on electrical production to provide the real time need further increasing power plant emissions.
@@williamerazo3921 The benefit is they can use the same electronics in their cheaper Ultium vehicles.
I scootered by the other day and spotted the Hummer parked in the street! It really surprised me how it didn't seem THAT big. They really committed to the bit with this one haha
It wasn't parked, it fukn died.....
Kyle’s like, I’m not actually going to pay to charge this! 😂
Them Apple Watch Ultras don't pay for themselves!
EA said, no you don't have to pay with this charger...wasn't Kyle's choice
Theft!
He's paying for it, he just doesn't realize HOW he's paying for it.
@@echo-channel77 Correct NO FREE LUNCH Someone( All of us) are paying taxes or I mean my Great Grandchildren will be paying taxes (investments) in politition speak for that FREE Charging.
Imagine in the hot summer heat when every home is running their AC on full blast and electric companies are begging for mercy and are forced to quadruple the price of charging.
They will use gas to generate electricity, fas car drivers will pay for that
Just charge at home
@latinsizer
Finally someone gets what I’ve been saying all along. People think that once EV’s have been forced on us that we’ll all be getting electricity for free. It’s gonna cost just as much to charge an EV as it will to gas your car up, if not more. These power companies are still run by greedy sociopathic narcissists.
@@tedarcher9120 "Just stop driving long distances"
They've made similar arguments over gas. Yes it will fluctuate on a seasonal basis
Gotta love the hummer 😂 personally, I’ll stick with gas. I drive cars for amusement, not just to get somewhere quick.
Have you driven a Telsa? They are very fun to drive, especially the performance versions.
@@vasil7410 have you heard the the beautiful sound of a 6.2 turbo charged Hemi with borla exhaust? 😎
I really appreciate your honest real world evaluation. Most people have absolutely no idea what they are in for. 😃👍
I didn't even bother to watch the click baiting video and just did a google search of, "how much to fully charge Hummer EV" that took two seconds to do. It seems at some fast charging stations like, Electrify America, it does cost about 100 bucks, but at some other charging stations that charge by the minute, it would only cost $50 or $37 depending on a person's plan. If you charge at home, it only costs $16 -$30 to fully charge. So this is why people need to actually fact check BS videos like this.
The ultimate kicker for EVs is if the unavoidable situation occurs where you run out of electricity and get stranded. With a gas car you can call for assistance and someone will bring you a couple gallons. In an EV.....it's a long and expensive tow ride.
There are tow companies that have charging built into their trucks. It's not as fast as dumping 3 gallons of gas in, but most time you don't need to go that far to the next charger.
Plus the last time you ever ran out of fuel should have been when you were 16 years old, unless you are an extraordinarily irresponsible person.
Or you can roll up in another EV and charge the car enough to get to the nearest station.
Or you could make sure you don't drive too far on empty, & push it. Its really no different than driving around a gas car near empty, w/no money or credit cards or wallet & dead phone? Stupid thing to do, but you still see dummies all the time begging for change while your pumping gas?Giving you some sob story about how they live an hr away & ran outta gas, so they & their equally brilliant 5 friends are stranded & can't get home? How they all fit in a 98 civic is one of Earths great mysteries? And they all still wonder why their always broke?
A plug in hybrid is the only way to go. Plug it in at home and use electric to go to work and the grocery store. Use gas when going on trips. Or they need to start figuring out hydrogen and put those into gas stations everywhere. That would solve all the problems.
Cost is comparable, but time is not! It may take 10-15 minutes for gas versus nearly 3 hours! Even smaller EVs take an hour or more to "fill up." Brag all you want, but this is not a family trip vehicle.
We are not ready to transition to electric vehicles. I am curious what is actually powering the charging stations. It's it coal? Free for the user but what is the real costs on the backend. Is it any better for the environment?
Go look at the hole in the ground for the battery lol
Aluminum comes from bauxite. If you are familiar with the process of getting the aluminum from the bauxite you have to wonder how many acres of solar panels it would require. I worked in an aluminum plant for years. Our monthly electric bill ran $250,000 to $300,000.
How many solar panels are needed to cover that bill?
The power plants are burning natural gas around here
Yes and no, coal is better than a bunch of ICEs(not to mention refining gasoline) but still not great once you factor in the cost of emissions to make the EV
EV charging stations are a great reason why we should be expanding nuclear power stations. If they are delusional enough to think ICE sales will be banned by 2035 imagine how many charging stations will have to go up and how many cities will have Megawatts of power being pulled from the grid in one square block areas a day. I could see some dense cities needing to provide a gigawatt per square mile. This will also be a terrorists wet dream.
Course not. Come on man!
EA charger screen showed $102.31 member savings screen, does that mean if you weren’t a member, cost would have been over $198? Also, let’s discuss EA raising rates when they offer chargers that work consistently.😊
No, the member savings it shows brought the price down to $0. It's because it was on free vend, that's the way they show it.
Loveland, CO has a 6.7% sales tax (local and state combined) so that brings the price to $102.77 and $74.09, respectively. Dunno why the screen showed a few cents off though (Perhaps tax rate is not exactly 6.7% but that's what Google tells me)
@@Smidge204 Thank you, I couldn't understand why member savings was different than charging amount.
Yes. About the same as gas guzzler
@@williamerazo3921 pretty unbelievable, my f150 takes less $65 to fill now and goes 380mi on average.... But it's almost 1/2 the weight of this thing.
(Yes I know home charging is cheaper)
For reference, a 2020 Toyota Corolla with a 1.8 liter engine no turbo charger and a 10 gallon tank gets 450 miles on a full tank. 40+ mpg on level terrain. 3 minutes to refuel for $30 at $3/gallon.
In Ontario Electrify Canada can’t charge by kWh (due to a law that states only the hydro company can charge by kwh)
So we are charged by time which is around $20 /hr.
Thanks for sharing that fact, I didn't know that!
So, if a charge takes 2.5 hours, then that would be $50.00. Wow, not so cheap is that.
In Georgia, an overnight residential EV charging of 224kwh would cost $3.14. Amazing how greatly the cost to charge varies across the country and by method. With ICE vehicles the most expensive gas in California probably is at most two times the least expensive gas elsewhere in the country. Hopefully that gap between 2X for ICE and 30+ for EVs can be tightened. Maybe as more charging stations are installed and more charging companies enter the market, along with some regulatory changes, the cost difference will lessen.
yes i'm also on ga power offering 0.01499/kwh overnight, but there is also a fuel fee of 0.02/kwh as well as other taxes and fees making it closer to 0.04/kwh total. So a 224kwh charge is roughly $8.96
I think EV charging price will increase. Once EVs take over government will add more taxes to charging to make up for the lost taxes on gas.
Damn thats like free electricity
@@Jd-pp7fx I think road taxes will shift to registration fees instead of pump fees. It just has to.
At my apartment in Jersey City NJ 224kWh would cost me $37.18
At my parents house (they have solar) it will cost them around $3
Unfortunately at my apartment my EVSE is only 20A and it’ll take 45 hours to charge to full.
My electric panel is only 60A for my entire apartment and so to play it safe I installed a 20A EVSE.
In 5 years no breakers ever blew yet.
How much does one value their time ...with 3 hour charging session ?
Charge point chargers (even though slower by quit a bit) cost 1/3 less that Electrify America. They changed their pricing last year. I have an EV6 and used to charge from to 80% for $11, now it’s like $32.
About half their chargers don’t even work though
My buddy canceled his order for the EV Hummer when he found out he could not tow behind his RV. This vehicle needs an MCS connector like Atilis and Cummins is using.
Facts!!!
Trash lol
flatbed tow only
buy fukky ev rv winabego
Great. On a trip charge up with a 5% reserve. Run into a snow storm and get stuck in the middle of the highway. Great plan. All of this is just too dangerous if you are away from major routes or cities when winter is real. I want to know what -40° does to charging and range. Also, is this thing one of the ones that locks up if the battery has no power left? Some of them do, and if they die in the middle of the road in a traffic jam it takes a crane to clear the road. Hardly a good idea.
At the current price of gas. I can fill up my 2011 Chevy Silverado with 2 tanks of gas for about $ 140 bucks and I don’t have to sit and wait for hours to refill it or worry about finding a place to refuel it . And I can also bring extra gas in cans for going off road . In my opinion the EVs available now are like toys . I guess they are great if you only use them in town . But actually traveling or going off road in a EV isn’t practical and would be a huge inconvenience that would eat up your time traveling.
And you don't even mention the fact that you can probably average 400-500 miles on a single tank of gas in highway driving. You could get from LA to San Francisco on a single tank and in about 6 hours. It would take 8-10 hours in an EV.
ev silardado
For comparison to fill up a Hummer H2 with the 32 gallon tank @3.00 gallon current price about $96! yikes to both of these fuel costs. But lets remember if you charged this overnight at home ....well for me it would only cost about $25
Electric companies will eventually make a separate tariff for EV charging and will be more expensive than fuel.
I agree. Once everyone is onboard, lookout!
It is. On another of these videos the charing price was 31 cents per kWHr. Compare with 12 -13 cents per kWHr for home electricity
I'm pretty sure of that, the only unknown is exactly when that will happen, probably around when there are slightly more EVs than ICE cars on the road, at the latest...
Double stack battery pack? Good luck getting that fire extinguished
they look very appealing right now, but they haven't started adding in tax, not to mention as more people buy ev's the demand for electric will go up along with the cost
On top of that states will need to find new ways to fund road repairs. Look for much higher registration fees and/or an EV road tax in the coming years.
Quantifying metrics to charge electric vehicles, and the costs of it should be made available to everyone just like gasoline. Prices at the gas stations are posted and miles per gallon are listed in the vehicles information.
While helping out some line workers with a construction project I asked what they thought about current EVs. All of them said they aren’t realistic for every house as the grid is strained without them.
The problem is the monopoly of a grid
What on earth does that statement from the ‘linemen’, even mean?
They are better for the Americas and places that have homes with garages etc. It's nice and cheap to plug in over night to a 220v During discount hours and it's ready to go for the next day. I'm hoping one day we can have more access for hydrogen type cars and trucks too as that would be a distributor type dream, quieter and higher efficiency than diesel/gas.
@@pauljefferies9087 Hi; The linemen are saying, Right now, before the EV Chargers are put in every home, the electrical grid is straining to keep up with the present usage.
@John Verkler
Then time to upgrade? Jesus, its not that complicated.
I'd like to thank YOU and every EV owner for contributing to my Coal Futures. It's going to be a WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS 😎
I would like to see how well you do driving it through New Mexico say go across then start from the Mexico border and go north through the Gila Mountains. Then cross Colorado through Kansas. Be interesting to see how far you can go, time spent driving, time stopped to charge and total trip time vs a gas powered Hummer. Another good test would be 2 pick-ups 1 gas and 1 electric in a farming/ranch situation. Hauling hay, trailers, equipment, run to town for parts etc
Yeah, there's all that, and then there's the reality of how MOST people drive, which is around town, running errands, etc. If you're a farmer, then stick to your diesel.
Yea, because so many people make that exact trip every day
I've never seen an EA charging station where they all work or didn't have a backup for the lone charger working, thanks for giving me hope.
I would double check what the rate of residential charging is where you live. There is your per kw rate but there probably is a per kw delivery rate also. Where I live it is 4.49 cents per kw. On top of that there is a 5.12 per kw delivered charge. So at first glance one may assume that I'm only paying 4.49 cents per kw to charge our EV's but in reality it would be 9.61 cents per kw to charge due to added delivery fee. Look a little closer at your itemized billing. Still cheap electricity but if your rates are higher it adds up but still should be lower than DC fast charging.
I'm in Connecticut and we pay about 25 cents per kw for generation and delivery and it's going up substantially in January. Only Hawaii pays more.
17 cents per kw at home here plus delivery charge plus tax in Ontatio. Seems we are getting really hosed here.
I see 0.13 per kw but 0.39 delivery in ca. That's low tier rates.
Note to self: If you’re going to drain the battery by running the heater, make sure you cool the cabin temperature below freezing so you don’t fall asleep after two hours and 45 minutes of charging. 🤭😁 Nice perspective. You need an extra day to do the 0-100 AC charge test. 😉
Just wait till he has to pay for a new battery and also pay for the disposal of the bad battery..
@@gaylenewood7707 lets be real that’s gonna be the third owners problem .
Darn it, guys, please don’t blog while under the influence of,…whatever it was.
I thought y'all were going to focus more on EVs at the lower end of the price range. This thing is a monstrosity; don't care how much it rocks.
Yes... like from Chennai
The question I have is,
You’re out in nature and your battery dies? It’s not like you can just whip out a Jerry can and fill ‘er up.
Hummer H1 has a 42 gallon tank. In CA filling would cost $250. At $3/gallon, Hummer EV is still cheaper at public charging.
Plus you're driving a HUMMER. Don't complain about fuel prices, you knew what you were signing up for!
Yeah, but the H1 will get more range out of that tank.
@@wojciechmuras553 Haha for sure, but isn't 42 gallons of diesel about 1,700 kWh of energy? By comparison the hummer ev has about a 5 gallon tank at its efficiency. That's insane but more range is super impractical because of the weight, cost, and our energy infrastructure. These vehicles would be so much better with an efficient fuel generator for range extension. Pure battery just makes no sense for what it's designed for. I completely agree with Kyle that this is just a Halo car for GM's Ultium battery architecture that they put all their eggs into.
Just passed a gas station in California,the price was 5.59 gallon.
3x42=126 ¿
Skip to 11:00 to avoid all the nonsense
That’s just wild! I have a Bolt EUV on order and people think that’ll cost a lot to charge… imagine if they saw a $170
bill! Then a $0 one, lol!
Took delivery of my 22' EUV a little over a month ago, love it! Got a premier with Sun/sound/super cruise. All my charging is at home on the 32A EVSE that came with the car. Rates are 9.5 cents per kWh (delivered after taxes and fees) Only costs me a bit over $6 to go from 0 -> 100% and I'm seeing about 245 miles of range with the Cross Climate 2 tires I put on it.
@@toxin440 Nice.
@@toxin440 For now.... Wait until the majority of people are driving EV.
California price charge at home
205kWh, 38 cents per kWh, 350 mile range, $77.90
California price gas
32 gal tank, $5.00/gal, 350 range, $160.00
Don't forget the battery degradation of 2500 a year or 225 a month.
So every month your first fill up is 300$ give or take 😊
In the real world (the rest of the country) gas is half of Kalifornia. Something better than your 10.9 MPG gas range would be nice too.
Thought about getting an ev thanks for changing my mind
Now get a Powerwall and a Lightning with two way power, and you can start trucking home all that free power!
"Honey, we're getting low on power. Can you run to the shopping center and get some for us? And try to get a lot this time."
🤣
@@murda2999 I
you dont want to hear that it will cost in denmark or germany.. in denmark it is 5-6dkk per kwh.. so that is like 200dollars-
176 € in Germany lmao, 0.79 € per kwh
That's how much it costs to fill my gas tank but it takes about 95% longer to do. What a waste of time and money.
Germany home 30cent/kW (new contracted 50+), DC around 50cent (Ionity & Tesla reaching 70cent when member, 80ish nonmember). Reaching same price levels like gasoline...And Germany was the one with like 60% renweables 😅 Something is fishy here. Alot.
The Green Revolution on the Continent is now showing its true color. Everything is turning to s*** brown. And Germany is leading the way. So much for the enery alliance with Putin.
I heard it takes 3 days to charge one of these.
😂
The vehicle is a rolling meme.
It'll take longer during a brown out or when electricity goes out..
@@gaylenewood7707 If the power grid goes own, then the gas pumps, which run on electricity, will also go down.
@@antmass3 to be fair, a small generator would be sufficient to bring a gas pump back online. Not that I'm advocating for fossil fuels.
Lol
The power infrastructure of this country is not capable of sustaining total electric vehicles or society. Every utility will have to increase power production, transmission lines, substations. That costs a great deal of money. Electric rates will increase substantially. All this is a requirement for total electric life. Where is that discussion?
Tesla new semi requires a megawatt charger for 30min allegedly - the hover damn produces 11 megawatts a day…. We’re not ready - but I’m gonna keep trying!
Most people charge at night, when industry is idle. Grid will be fine.
Complimentary charging means WE paid fir it
So what I'm understanding is that my 2012 5.0 6 speed 4x4 f150 can go 710miles @ 55mph 604miles @ 70mph for $117, takes 12 minutes max to fill, while an EV goes half or less the distance for about the same cost to fill, so in 12°F at night driving at 70mph with heat on medium, 40% highbeams usage + fog lights with my stereo at make you deaf loudness, I can travel further than you can at the same cost and spend less time refueling.. Goodjob sir you sold me on a 2018 ford f150 with another 5.0 paired with a 10 speed to replace my 2012.
All these people buying a Hummer were not for any practical reasons.
And 95 miles pulling a trailer your battery is dead…
Just the gasoline predecessor, the Hummer EV is an exercise in excess. In contrast, I have an Aptera on order. Which will sip electricity. Or in our use case, NEVER get plugged in.
I want to know the crash rating on the Aptera. Assuming it ever comes out.
I'm sticking with the Dodge RAM, the exhaust sound is just too good! 👍😁
"IS THAT A HEMI ? "
-Jon Reep
Get a waterproof speaker, record sound you like, play sound u like, save $100 per week. No one is disappointed.
right on David..
Paul is seriously delusional
@@pauljefferies9087 It costs more to charge the EV Hummer!
another great video kyle! the hummer ev is definitely not for everyone. but ev’s are!
12kW=12,000 watts of heat! The space heater you have in your bedroom is only 1500 watts. So, the heater in there is the same as 8 household space heaters!!
Dangerous
Yes, but the space heater in your bedroom is only adding a few degrees to an already warm space. Stick a 1500 watt hair dryer in a car that is not pre-warmed on a 20 degree F day and it will not be warm very fast. These exercises make one realize how much wasted heat energy is associated with internal combustion.
48A onboard is a bit small, but if you figure even people with long commutes that use 50% capacity (150mi) daily, that's roughly a 10 hour charge overnight, certainly doable. I doubt people buying this are towing on the daily, so that shouldn't be a concern. I wonder if they didn't go higher because majority of EVSE's are only 40 or 48 amp max.
But yes, you make a good point. Ideally you'd want enough OBC power capability to fill ~80% overnight (8-10hr) on any EV. Probably should have made it at least 64A (80A breaker).
The problem is dedicating more than a 60A breaker for EV charging on a 200A service isn't always ideal, depending on what else you have in the house. If you have one of these and a Rivian/Lightning/etc, that you drive daily, you might need more than a 200A service!
I dunno, these big vehicles would seem to be hard on the grid, even as we improve. Luckily they're a pretty small percentage compared to EV cars and CUVs.
My 100+ mile commutes in my Model 3 are easily sustainable with only a 30A circuit, even in the winter.
200A ? I would bet that 80% of homes max out at 100A service to the panels.
Especially older homes, they're 60-80A.
In Canada if you wanted more power and had to go up to 400A, firstly, they probably won't even let you in residential. Secondly, it's 20 grand to get hydro to do that kind of upgrade here for a commercial shop.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 I grew up in a 1903 house that started with ZERO amp electrical service. 35 amp service was added in 1923. 100 amp was installed in 1959. 200 amp was installed in 1990. At least that house had all knob and tube removed in 1959 when my parents bought the house.
In the future when most people are driving EV peak hours will be overnight If you don't' have the ability to charge at home lines to charge are going to be horrendous. They will have signs like at an amusement park, 6 hour etc..wait from here to charge.
Great with the initial cost of the vehicle, you should break even in about 50 years compared to a gas vehicle
This guy seems to be in to EVs for fun and enjoying the sheer complexity of the game plus in addition money is no object which tells us so much about the market for these devices. This market has topped out and needing interest from the mass population with more practical needs which is a big problem for those dreamers in our governments.
You talked about charging it for the first 10 minutes of the video-finally you plugged it in. Nice spread sheet showing options. GM made very few of these. I think it’s cool too.
Very interesting video you sure know how to capture an audience, I charge my EV-6 20-80% in the valley of the sun for $5.40, but actually for free for I have a solar system.
You have APS or srp
I'm sure the solar panels were free too.
@@MrJinske all that is true. Just factor in the cost of eventually replacing the panels. I'm learning, don't kill me.
And you got it for free, your car too? Oh,you got subsidies -- good on ya',you really needed those. Now calculate the price without any "subsidies" and pay those back on my account ASAP before I retreive them myself. I'm saving the planet starting with myself first,just like you.
Hopefully you don't encounter the shutdown issue that TFLEV experienced when they first got theirs. It is giant though and so heavy as well, much prefer more efficient EV's and smaller size.
That happened to multiple people, So if you don't use the car for a certain amount of weeks battery shuts down and it's undrivable
What a fucking joke..
We had 4 hummers in our camp and it took approximatly $100 to fill up from empty everytime. circa 2005
I’d be really interested to see towing performance on this beast because it’s already so inefficient that the trailer might not have as much of an impact as well as crazy fast charging.
Due to its high energy consumption, it isn’t really charging that quickly. Hummer charging at 300 kW is only adding about 300 miles of range per hour. A typical sedan EV would be adding range at over 1000 miles per hour at that same charge rate. That said, it’s better than the F-150 Lightning!
@@bnkwupt That's true. I was only referring to 350kw+ charging speed. That is a crazy amount of energy (max electrical supply to 7 us homes all at once) and way more than the Lightning or Rivan so it would help when towing when everything only gets 1 mi/kwh.
@@gradyluyt6998 I’d expect the Hummer to see the same 50%+ reduction when towing that other vehicles see. Kyle’s 1.1 mi/kWh might turn into 0.6 mi/kWh.
Hopefully we’ll know soon!
Another channel did a towing test, and only got about 100 miles on multiple different EV trucks including the Hummer.
They also tested a Dodge Ram, and it did double the distance with the same trailers, all on the freeway.
I still like how the main selling point was crab walk 😂
Having an EV seems like to terrible way to go through life.
If you don’t have a home charger it honestly is inconvenient, especially if you drive long distances
I disagree
What's the electric cost 🤔 around Colorado per KWT? Im at .11 at Dallas TX, I wanted to move to Colorado Springs CO. 😊
6% in hummer EV almost has as much usable energy (~13 kWh) as a full battery in your leaf!
Love the data! Can you post the charging curve somewhere? I would think 0-80% would take under an hour or so
Probably. Under 1 hour.
I’m always in such a rush and can’t imagine stopping to charge and have to figure something else to do while waiting
Imagine waiting on your wife to get ready to go somewhere and knowing you’ll have to stop to charge on the way
Never get anywhere on time ever again
Lol
Yea, this was a deal breaker for me when I was EV shopping. I'm usually a last-minute person, so this would never work for me.
I bought a Porsche instead.
@@zeblackboi you can always leave your house with a fully charged car 😉
@AGUADILLAN1 unfortunety, I live in high rise with no charging available 😢
How much is car insurance??