Zyprexa Withdrawal, Olanzapine Tapering Help, Side Effects and Alternatives | Alternative to Meds.
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- In this Q&A session with the Founder of Alternative to Meds Center, Lyle Murphy, find answers to the top questions about Zyprexa Withdrawal and Olanzapine Withdrawal.
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00:00 - Intro
00:16 - What is Zyprexa?
00:25 - What is Zyprexa (Olanzapine) used for?
01:20 - What does Zyprexa Withdrawal look like?
06:46 - Am I schizophrenic if I take Zyprexa?
09:08 - What are Zyprexa Alternatives?
11:17 - Can Zyprexa cause tardive dyskinesia?
14:08 - Outro
1. What is Zyprexa? Zyprexa is an atypical antipsychotic
2. What is Zyprexa (Olanzapine) used for? Zyprexa is used in the treatment of schizophrenia and sometimes for the stabilization of bipolar. These diagnoses are sometimes however confused with hypoglycemia, drug use, and spiritual crisis.
3. What does Zyprexa Withdrawal look like? Since there is a dopamine surge coming off of Zyprexa, the withdrawal generally looks like a return of the original symptoms. Typical signs are mania, psychosis, inability to sleep, lack of desire to eat. This can be lessened by doing a very slow withdrawal and avoiding stimulants like caffeine.
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4. Am I schizophrenic if I take Zyprexa? No, but sometimes the drug itself can create symptoms that look like schizophrenia. There is a difference between schizoaffective and schizophrenic, which the later tends to have a more constant presentation of symptoms.
5. What are Zyprexa Alternatives? Vitamin C, Niacin, Lithium Orotate, restricting drug use, avoiding stimulants.
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6. Can Zyprexa cause tardive dyskinesia? Any antipsychotic can cause tardive dyskinesia or akathisia. Atypicals are less likely than typical antipsychotics. Certain genetic factors like the CYP2D6 or CYP3A4 polymorphisms are suspected.
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Nailed it. You just described my life.
I’m not alone.
Thank you
My psychiatrist says 10mg is a safe starting AND stopping dose. I have to convince him to taper down next time I go in. He's clueless.
i tried going off olanzapine and got some bad symptoms: diarrhea, reduced appetite, dry mouth, horrible pain, feelings of meaninglessness and suicidal thoughts
@@mikelisteral7863 I finally quit just 2 weeks ago. I had most that stuff when I was ON zyprexa. So in a way I was prepared. Also insomnia. I haven't slept for over a year.
How is your taper going?
@@AnnLaustsen87 Been done with zyprexa, lithium, and benzos for several months now. Zero pills. I feel better than I have in years. Sleeping naturally. Able to function somewhat. Now I'm just waiting patiently for the adderall script that Ive needed for decades.
This was an absolutely phenomenal, detail oriented, and straightforward explanation the effects of Zyprexa withdrawal. The simplified explanation of dopamine blockage and the resulting increase of receptors makes it very easy to understand why a slow and tapered approach minimizes risks significantly. You’ve made a new subscriber out of me!
My doctor said to stop zyprexa once I hit 2.5mg because I wouldn’t get any withdrawal effects because it was such a low dosage
So I stopped
And within 24 hours I immediately got sick
I’ve been INCREDIBLY sick every single day for a week
I can’t move
I have chills
I’m soooo sick
I can’t do anything
They just told me to take it again and I absolutely will NOT do that
I just want to feel better
It’s soooo bad!
How do you feel now? I’m about a week in and it’s just been getting worse
I was in less than 2.5 , the half of it , doctor told me to stop it got sick and I had to take it again 2.5
Have you considered taking it every other day. Then take it every third day. Keep going until you get all the way to taking one pill on Sunday. Then quit
@@markmcgoveran6811
Have u tried that??
@@markmcgoveran6811 That is what I am going to do. I am on 2.5 at night and it has stopped working for me. So every other night (I did read from a Dr.) for 10 days then stop is the best advice I have gotten thus far. Yep I have anxiety for sure, nausea and that is it. One day without and it is kicking in. I expected to have insomnia and increased anxiety. I also take Lamictal (100 mg a day) and a very low dose of clonazepam (1/2 of a .5 mg pill twice a day). Hopefully this will carry me through. I have never had psychotic episodes and have depression and anxiety disorder. Wish me luck~
What is that medicine they sometimes use as a bridge medication?
olanzapine was being really bad for me, cant get of bed in time (sleep almost 12h), cant do my daily activities, what can i do to fix this?
So many suicides and homicides caused directly as a result of someone having adverse reactions to these drugs but the coroner's and court system continue to wear blinkers!
Dude most of the thing's you guy's say on this channel is absolutely useless. The only thing useful I got from any of your advice is to do cardio until you get tired enough where you think you're going to pass out running after staying up for 3 to 4 days straight just so I can go to sleep. You guys suck and you guys half-ass your advice!!!!!!
What was the name of the medication you said to possibly use when you are tapering off of 2.5-5mg of olanzipine? Depakote?
How do I taper Zyprexa in capsules?
i just recently am finally off of it, what i did was first cut down to 2.5mg, and from there, weekly or longer depending on how u feel, cut the size in half, i got down to a tiny tiny piece that had to have been like micrograms, but i got off of it and had like 3-5 days of shitty side effects but it was doable
How long did it take to come off it completely cause I’m down to cutting 2.5 in half but last night I didn’t have one and didn’t sleep properly. Because I get dizzy spells and weight gain from zyprexa
@@Dougie04 every time i went down to a smaller dose i stayed on that dose for at least a week, depending on how you feel. just keep taking smaller amounts of it until u can stop and be able to handle the side effects. i think i ad 3 or 4 days of feeling like crap but it was manageable and then it gets better
@@producedby3am344 Thanks for your advice so are you completely off them ?
@@Dougie04 yea i am
@@producedby3am344 good work
Is Niacin good or bad for withdrawal from tapering off olanzapine? or will it make things worse by creating more dopamine? I am trying to taper currently and I am having a hard time with anxiety and insomnia. being that I can go into psychosis if I don't sleep for long enough I'm reasonably concerned. do i need a bridge drug like Depakote or can you make it without that? please advise. I can't afford a treatment center like yours , I wish I could.
Won't affect anything
This is valuable information, please keep doing this
Dude most of the thing's you guy's say on this channel is absolutely useless. The only thing useful I got from any of your advice is to do cardio until you get tired enough where you think you're going to pass out running after staying up for 3 to 4 days straight just so I can go to sleep. You guys suck and you guys half-ass your advice!!!!!!
@@425stonerocks impossible to be able to do cardio on antipsychotics and after antipsychotic treatment, no aerobic capacity.
Thank you excellent info you're providing!
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I want to know if it's safely possible to completely withdrawal from Zyprexa when diagnosed with Schizophrenia? What are the alternative treatments? I have tapered off this medication but I haven't completely stopped. I relapsed before but I haven't been given guidance on how to go into the future without requiring to take this medication.
Seek Christ and get an exorcism
I've been a year off Olanzapine and I have very unpleasant tension in my body that nothing seems to treat. Benzos and pregabalin helped for a while but stopped working and now I'm using an opioid pain medication Tapentadol that causes nervousness due to it's effect on norepinephrine. No natural substance has helped either and I've spent thousands on different things. I'm completely lost and no-one has any answers. I would love to find someone or something that could help.
Try hyperbaric therapy it costly but amazing
I think that u gotta do meditation ecersize healthy diet and truelly stick to a routine but i hear it does take a year to get your mind together
How did you taper it. What dose were you on and for how long? Have you tried SSRIs for withdrawal?
@AlfalfaQ I tapered off over a number of months to as low as about 0.3 of a milligram. I've just connected with a good TCM therapist and am taking that path now to deal with the underlying issues rather than treating symptoms. I plan to move away from western medicine for the time being.
Are you saying that schizophrenics who still hallucinate on high strength olanzipine can’t ever come off it? I have treatment-resistant schizophrenia.
I will be honest with you, think about this, something that's considered treatment-resistant that is literally being used to treat something that's considered treatment-resistant does that make much sense to you? Know I pretty much think that yes if you are schizophrenic you suffer with symptoms, but if you have the power to go inside your head and pull back and look at yourself and a third person's perspective, you might be able to overcome a lot of the symptoms you deal with on your own. I believe the human brain is powerful enough to do that it's just my opinion though I'm not saying anything about your disease, it's just my opinion and my mind is a nervous wreck trust me❤ you're not stuck on anything for the rest of your life that's also my opinion
What dosage of niacin and vitamin c? Is it any specific type of Niacin and vitamin c, or will anything do? Same question with Lithium Orotate? :) And when to take the different stuff.
Either Niacin or Niacinamide okay, increasing gradually from 100mg to 6000mg as maximum eg 1000mg tid.
Vitamin C should be of the same dosage as B3 in form of ascorbic acids or natural vitamin C.
My new psych cut me off at 15mg cold turkey and put me on 5mg abilify I feel like I’m dying 5 days later
Ive quit zyprexa now for 3 weeks. And I will say one thing. Music never sounded better. For some reason when I was on 10mg of zyprexa I absolutely could not listen to any music. Something about the emotions in music made me extremely uncomfortable on 10mg zyprexa. Then each step down I could enjoy a little more. And now that I'm 3 weeks off. Music is incredibly immersive and enjoyable.
why were you put on zyprexa?
@@humpheryakaenyi7113 I dont remember asking you.
@@humpheryakaenyi7113 malicious gaslighting from family and friends.
Due to a newly discovered heart condition I had to come off this medication and also Seroquel at a very high dose cold turkey for 3 months I was completely just an invalid. It's been over a year now and I still have not right they have me on New medications but because of my heart condition there only a certain amount of medications I can take and I'm not talking just psych meds I can't take Motrin I can't take Benadryl I can't take a lot of antibiotics it is nuts. I suffer from something called Long QT syndrome when they found out my problem my QTC was 804 a normal person's QTC is 400 at Max I was on death's door but I made it
Thank goodness you made it
I started to have chest pains, jerking and spasms whilst sleeping only at 2.5 mg. Also raised blood pressure and some kidney disfunction. I am 56. I decided to stop it but am still going to slow go it based on what I have learned (every other day at bedtime for 10 days then stop...btw from a doctor). I still need to sleep and be productive during the day. Better than being in a darn coma practically while taking it. Bad med to be on but may be good for those with psychosis. My hubby has that and it has been a life saver for him at 10 mg every evening. He is a different person (he has bi-polar mania so bad he has psychosis) and it helps him so much. I have anxiety and depression with manic episodes but not like he does. Just days of more energy with a bit of insomnia. I will take that over being over-medicated. Plus I am highly sensitive to medications. I am on Lamictal 100 mg a day and .25 Klonopin 2x day (one in the a.m. and one at night). I have panic disorder so that to me is a lifesaver. For me that is so bad I have to stay in the house (and can't even drive or go out to the store without one), Luckily I am at a very low dose.
@@michelepaine8480look up medication spellbinding. Clonazapam will turn on you eventually. Lifesaver and destroyer. Dependence,tolerance, interdose withdrawal and iatragenic brain injury. Post acute withdrawal syndrome is very real and so is akithesia. Warning clonazapam is not your friend - it is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
And by unimportant reasons, I mean marijuana use or increased sleep times. Olanzapine is just punishment as a drug, and people should not face it, if they haven't literaly done brutal crimes by being aware the guilt.
Dude most of the thing's you guy's say on this channel is absolutely useless. The only thing useful I got from any of your advice is to do cardio until you get tired enough where you think you're going to pass out running after staying up for 3 to 4 days straight just so I can go to sleep. You guys suck and you guys half-ass your advice!!!!!!
@@425stonerocks think for yourself? All my health issues started with this drug and 1 year later still on.
Yea I feel you man zyprexa was the drug that drove me insane
how do you feel now ? plz help me , my friend went crazy from this drug .. he was taking it for 4 months and he dropped it last month , and still have mental problem
@@wilfrelora3806 how do you overcome it ? plz help me with it
I think that doctors who prescribe antipsychotics off label should be jailed
Zyprexa (Olanzapine) "Thienobenzodiazepine"
What dose of niacin, Vitamin C and lithium orate do you recommend for someone tapering off Zyprexa?
Dude most of the thing's you guy's say on this channel is absolutely useless. The only thing useful I got from any of your advice is to do cardio until you get tired enough where you think you're going to pass out running after staying up for 3 to 4 days straight just so I can go to sleep. You guys suck and you guys half-ass your advice!!!!!!
That's fruit.
I have been tapering Abilify for several years now, and I have some info to share. First of all, you need a very precise method for tapering the dosage, and more slowly at lower dosages. Secondly, if you have been on the drug for many years, then it may require up to 10 years to complete the taper. And thirdly, you can't even tell your psychiatrist because they will never understand. That's because the science has been manipulated to hide the existence of withdrawal effects!
Also Olanzapine is benzo class and withdrawal effects include issues with liver, itchy skin. The dopamine flux appears just few days after the end of using it but withdrawal continues for as the dude said 1 month to 1 year.
True ... Very true👍
Olanzapine is an antipsychotic not a benzo
@@dianemorrell9638iIt is thienobenzodiazapine
It’s not a benzo. I remember asking my addiction doctor this. The name throws you. It’s not related to a benzo
I have been on 20mg of zyprexa for 13 years and I really want to get off. I don’t know where to begin my doctor said it’s a very bad idea. 13 years ago I started seeing devils and evil spirits it was terrifying. The zyprexa helped but I haven’t felt right since. I feel like I’m depressed all the time. For 13 straight years. Thanks for the video. God bless
Please be careful. Do NOT quit cold turkey but taper off slowly. The final step will be the hardest. From 2,5 mg slowly in steps towards 2, 1.25, once in two days. Once in three days. If insomnia kicks in for more than four days go back to a dosage where you get enough sleep. It is not worth it and necessary to suffer for weeks. Good luck. P.S. try to investigate why you were on zyprexa in the first place. Do you believe the thoughts and visions were true and real or not? If it seems you cannot go off zyprexa try to live with it on an acceptable dosis or discuss alternative medication.
@@user-sv7hb8el2t I believe what I was seeing and experiencing was 100% real. Almost felt like a veil was lifted into another dimension,very scary. Thank you
@@Expansion1111 Please be careful. 13 years is a long period and 20mg is a high amount. Seek all the support you can get.
I had no problems stopping Olanzapine but with Clozapine i dont know what the fuck to do!
How did you stop olanzapine??
How do you treat insomnia as a withdrawal symptom while tapering?
I have a lot of suggestions on my group page if you're interested.
Bipolar Disorder, Mental, & Overall Health: Are There Med Free Options?
facebook.com/groups/2520960211495674
Thank you Sharilyn
Mint tea, helps you sleep good
@@ANaturalApproachMedFreeAndMore i just joined your group
Hope to get approved soon!
I tried to quit 5mg Olanzapine and 20mg Prozac cold turkey and the withdrawals were horrible. The worst being the insomnia. I lost 3 days of sleep and immediately went back on it just to stop the withdrawal symptoms. I am trying to find information on how to taper off of Olanzapine and Prozac. But I can't find any useful information on how to taper off. And my doctor was no help. He told me he doesn't recommend I stop taking these drugs because he believes I will end up in a mental hospital again. He told me I could just quit them cold turkey (Wrong! I learned that the hard way). I wanna stop taking these drugs. I feel like I am a slave to them.
thanks for the number 1 month 1 year.
Hi there nice to meet up with you 😊
Impossible
1 month for 1 year!!!!
What if someone has been on it for a month then?and on 30mgs????yes 30mgs
One month for one year is absolutely wrong!!!
@@taghreedrulia5168 Me dieron 20mg de Zyprexa y ya no tengo vida,me han destrozado,ya no tengo ganas ni de vi***r
I urge everyone here to research "antipsychotic induced dopamine hypersensitivity"
how can it help?
Wicked medication🔥👹🔥
Dude most of the thing's you guy's say on this channel is absolutely useless. The only thing useful I got from any of your advice is to do cardio until you get tired enough where you think you're going to pass out running after staying up for 3 to 4 days straight just so I can go to sleep. You guys suck and you guys half-ass your advice!!!!!!
That poison is a killer
Dude most of the thing's you guy's say on this channel is absolutely useless. The only thing useful I got from any of your advice is to do cardio until you get tired enough where you think you're going to pass out running after staying up for 3 to 4 days straight just so I can go to sleep. You guys suck and you guys half-ass your advice!!!!!!
mania is serotonin not dopamine
Why are you using bridging? That just adds one more medication that they have to get off of or may have side effects from?
The Dangers of Bridging:
1. Interaction between the two drugs creates risk of "Serotonin Syndrome".
2. Switching to another drug does not necessarily stop antidepressant withdrawal.
3. The patient may switch to another drug and still develop "Acute Protracted Withdrawal Syndrome" from rapid discontinuation of the drug.
4. A doctor may misdiagnose withdrawal as a mental health disorder and diagnose more drugs.
5. The new drug(s) also cause(s) dependency and will need to be slow tapered.
6. Repeatedly going off and on psych drugs can "kindle" or sensitize the nervous system making further discontinuation attempts more challenging.
7. The best way to minimize withdrawal symptoms and reduce the risk of developing "Protracted Withdrawal" is a slow taper which decreases no greater than 2% to 5%, every 3 to 4 weeks, at which point the person needs to stabilize before further decreasing at the same rate.
15 years of compiled experience with data-driven studies. It is not a requirement but has proven to be better tolerated in many if not most. The 1-7 you posted above sounds like it is related to antidepressants. Depakote nor Zyprexa will ever result in serotonin syndrome.
@@MurphyLyle I feel you're right - after my sons' 2 failed attempts at getting off Zyprexa - can't get below 2.7mg without major insomnia which then creates other issues!
@Lyle Murphy. This can happen with benzos, SSRI's, antipsychotics, and atypical antipsychotics, too. I have a FB group and people that are at all stages of struggles because of pharmaceutical drug withdrawal.
facebook.com/groups/2520960211495674
facebook.com/groups/2520960211495674
@@SydneyDiva. This can happen with benzos, SSRI's, and antipsychotics and atypical antipsychotics, too. I have a FB group and people that are at all stages of struggles because of pharmaceutical drug withdrawal.
facebook.com/groups/2520960211495674
facebook.com/groups/2520960211495674
The insomnia is part of withdrawal issues.
@@ANaturalApproachMedFreeAndMore I'm on your FB group!
A healthy vegan diet helps make life better, its the ancient panacea...
If someone develops schizophrenia from street drugs do they have to take antipsychotics for life? That's what the mental health supervisor said... Including some psych Doctors.
Maybe if you damage your brain. I had worse anxiety and they give me zyprexa...i told them that a benzo did wonders for me but they give me zyprexa(i refused for 3 years). Now i'm fucked, i had to take 5 mg and every month i reduce it with 20% now i'm on 1.25 mg and totally depressed.
Search for abram hoffer cure, i'm now trying it like 3 days
Your reaction is gone, you give him niacin but... the rest i can"t read
@@roygriend5143 Do you have FB? If you'd like you can message me through there instead? I'll tell you more about his situation and what we've tried. I follow Ann Blake Tracy she's on FB. There's a group called Zyprexa should be illegal.
@@angelicah3010 yes i have facebook, i already subbed to the anti zyprexa page haha. Some info or suggestions are always nice-->do i have so search you?
@@roygriend5143 I found you in the group :) I'll message you.
Zyprexa me ha destrozado la vida!!!!!!!!! !!!!
Si no te sientes bien eso es la medicina ami me paso lo mismo.
Eh verdad hermano !
Que te ocurrió tomando zyprexa?
ZYKILLYA!!!👹 Sorry but I hate that demon drug..
Eric Evans
Are you still on Zyprexa ?
How can I contact you?
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Hi there 👋😊🙏🙌
Dude most of the thing's you guy's say on this channel is absolutely useless. The only thing useful I got from any of your advice is to do cardio until you get tired enough where you think you're going to pass out running after staying up for 3 to 4 days straight just so I can go to sleep. You guys suck and you guys half-ass your advice!!!!!!
Why do we have a brain man
It's total bullshit. All we need is a mouth an anus and sex parts.
Marijuana psychosis lmfao ok doc
If you think that isn’t a real thing you know very little about drugs. I’m pro weed but it can have its adverse effects on people
One of which is hppd. Rare but it happens
@@andrewthompson1853 I can't do it...I am hypersensitive. Never have been able to do it. I get extreme panic attacks and see things gah.
happened to me. Started hearing voices and thinking i was possesed and all sorts of crazy shit. That's why I was prescribed olanzapine