The Ugly Truth About Long-Term Antidepressant Use
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I'm so very happy for you, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Germany don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, BPD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Mushrooms are very medicinal. This is why anybody familiar with psilocybin and any other kind of fungi will tell you, "They are alive." They have a very ancient wisdom. To my experience, all mushrooms have always said, "Pay attention to your life. How you think, how you feel, and what will you do with the information that you always knew, but now are seeing in this point of view." This is why mushrooms are so respected in tribal cultures. This mental health treatment works for me too. Half micro doses do the trick for me. At least a few days at a time with lengthy time in between. Never addictive. Thank you for sharing this point!
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
I would be dead today without SSRIs. I have been taking them for 30 years. I’ve tried to stop and within 6 days I’m having suicidal ideation and can’t get anything done. My life improved 100% after 2 weeks on the medication. And I still have very strong emotions, almost too strong. And I’m taking the max you should take. I am an artist and still very creative, no problems there. I have never had to up my dose. I would gladly give up a few years of life to feel normal and keep living.
The alternative for me is death.
Google "Tardive Dysphoria", "Antimicrobial resistance" etc.
Good luck
100% me. I think of ssris now as something like insulin, I simply need it for survival or else I cannot sleep, have continuous panic attacks, complete exhaustion, inabiliy to eat and maintain weight, etc. It's a miracle drug that only enhances my life and lifts my creativity to higher potentials because I'm not constantly distracted with the weight of "illness". 25 years of fighting against taking them, on and off for long durations, I'm now just in full acceptance and realize they really do help and enhance my life.
Same.
These drugs are just little better than placebo and cause disasters
I agree, I don’t like this video bc it’s lowkey scaring people who are on psych meds or considering going on them. Some people have to stay on them for the rest of their lives and that’s okay! I’m on 5 different psych meds and at one point I was in and out of the psych ward 7 times in the span of 2 years. I’m finally stable for the first time and I don’t care that I’m on a lot of medication. It’s what’s keeping me alive and wanting to stay alive! ❤
Psych Nurse 10 years here…… worked on psych ward of large hospital and saw psychiatrists prescribe antidepressants like they were dispensing jellybeans. Truthfully, I never once heard a doctor talk about side effects, long term effects, dangers, SEXUAL SIDE EFFECTS, nothing. The physicians attitude was, “Oh, sounds like you are depressed. I’m going to prescribe an antidepressant for you and while you are here in the hospital for the next few days (for repeatedly threatening suicide or self harm or attempted suicide and
IVC’d) please start taking them and we can talk about how you are feeling.” Day after day, week after week. Never once heard a doctor mention moderate exercise, getting outside, a break in routine, increasing socialization, etc. There was a pill for every problem. Excellent talk. You covered it all.
The doctor had no delivery mechanism for those things - it’s not a resort. But doctors are neglectful about not prescribing when it is better not to.
Thank you for sharing the truth whats going on at average psych ward. Thank you
@@claireh.7605well society expect the doctors to "solve the problem" and preferably solve it quickly. They are using the tools they have at hand. It's easier to convince a patient to take a pill than to look over their life and make numerous changes some of which other people may sneer at or question. When society isn't feeling well the symptoms show up in people. To solve the problems you need a more holistic approach, as I see it. Holistic approaches sound expensive and uncertain to many people.
This is all too common
Well, we know about the opioid crisis. Doctors were lobbied to prescribe pain killers for all kinds of pain. Karl Marx called religion opium for the people. This was even better.
Misdiagnosed and over medicated . It’s perfect for business 🥳🇦🇺
It worked really well for opiate withdrawal but I was really just kicking the can down the road.
@@sole__doubt 🙏🏻👍🏻
Lol and yeah
Another "addage" in business is "you get what you pay for".
YES!
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.larks I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Anxiety happens when you think you have to figure out everything all at once.
Breathe. You're strong. You got this Take it day by
day.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.larks
Such a relief to see medical professionals talk about this. I had bad depression a decade ago and instead of taking anti-depressions I asked for a full blood panel. I showed up as severely anaemic and within 2 days of taking iron felt my depression lift. Over the following few months, the anaemia was discovered to be a symptom of ovarian endometriosis, which was treated and allowed me to become and stay pregnant. I can't even imagine where my life would be if i had just taken SSRIs. My anaemia and endometriosis would have worsened while I treated a symptom of my illness without diagnosing the root cause.
My sister in law was admitted to an inpatient facility for her depression, thankfully part of their intake is a very thorough physical. They discovered she had a severe autoimmune disease! Now she’s getting the treatment she actually needs. No doctors or visits to the psych ward had discovered her true illness for years before this!
I have had depression since I was 6 years old. I am 65 now. I struggled for years to cope without being suicidal or a walking zombie. I initially started medication after I tried to take my life one night. It’s taken a lot of trials with different medications to find one that had minimal side effects and that gave me a sense of control over my depressive state. I have navigated extreme depression with and without medication and I am now in a stable condition with a particular medication that doesn’t make me a zombie. My siblings all have dealt with depression. Our childhood’s were not so great and we all have differing reasons. We don’t discuss depression. I’m satisfied that my current treatment is working well despite suffering the loss of several close family members and my daughter. At this point, I am not concerned about long term use. It’s doing its job well.
Everyone in my family is on something. Runs in the family. If it keeps me functional I stay on it.
Exactly my experience. I was 50 years old before the right anti depressant was prescribed. 24 years later, I won’t give it up for any reason. I wouldn’t be here today without it.
I think this video is dangerous. Listen to your doctors, not this quack.
You are the perfect clients for the pharma industry , never tried to taper off ?
I have tried to wean off the meds before and experienced severe problems with mood fluctuations and sui*dal thoughts. Have at times been on 2 antidepressants at once but caused TK and I stopped the add on. The maintenance dose I take is adequate to function and I plan to continue with it. The additional medication was for a situational depression due to my sister and her family dying from Covid in one month’s time. My father had died exactly a year before that. I’m coping ok now, just getting through it all. I’m not a stranger to grief, I have lost 2 of 3 children. Not everything is going to have a cut and dried answer.
I was on antidepressants for years, and it’s exactly like you said. Start with one, works for a while then the dose needs to be increased, then it stops working, then the doctor puts me on a different antidepressant, it works for a while, gradually dose needs increasing, then stops working and so on and so on. I also read studies where long term use has detrimental side effects in your heart.
2022 - Long-term antidepressant use may double the risk of heart disease, finds the most comprehensive epidemiological study to date to investigate ..."There is a lot of evidence, from other research, that depression is associated with increased cardiovascular disease," he said.
"Clearly, there's behavioral things (associated with depression), where people might not look after themselves as well, and there may also be hormonal changes and metabolic changes which might increase risk of physical illnesses in the longer term.
"Without a (randomized controlled trial), it's always going to be really, really difficult to make any inference
I know antidepressants have helped many people but for me they just numbed all of my emotions. There’s no reason for me to be depressed at this time as I’m in a very happy marriage, I have good health, lots of blessings. I think it’s from childhood abuse and being raised by a cruel father. I’m trying to deal with it but I know I’ll never go on meds again. Thank you Dr J for this excellent video.
hey, I had similar response to yours and the drugs provided no relief, just numbness. have you looked into internal family systems (IFS) or compassionate inquiry or somatic therapy? childhood trauma is huge driver of adult depression, anxiety, addiction, etc. Dr. Richard Schwartz gave us IFS, Gabor Maté compassionate inquiry. tons of vids here, have been very helpful to me. wishing you all the best, and some relief and joy.
@@ericb8413 I think some people really do need them. I do feel that some people may be on stronger does than needed but perhaps I am wrong. However I did not want to go on them at all. One of my friends has been on them for many years and is emotionally blunted. No strong emotions of happiness or sadness ever.
Its great that you dont need medication to help with your mood 🙏
But your statement "i have no reason to be depressed" is in my opinion wrong and kind of offensive. I have litterally 0 reasons to be depressed, but still i am. You dont always have a reason to why you are depressed.
@@Den26juli She was speaking of her situation not yours. The lady has gone through a traumatic childhood and has been trying to find a way to get past depression.
@@Den26juli She was not offensive. She was speaking of her own experience with meds. Also you said the same thing she did.
Antidepressants have caused so many more problems in my life than they ever assisted with. As for antipsychotics being used as "antidepressants" or even sleep aids -- NO. THIS IS MALPRACTICE. The dangers of antipsychotics in a non-psychotic population far outweigh the perceived off-label side-effects ("treatment goals")
I just recently fired a doctor for continuously prescribing me anti-psychotics for depression after several decades of severe abuse. I talked to him for less than 10 minutes before he prescribed them to me.
Prescribing anti-psychotics for anger and depression is like prescribing morphine for a broken finger. MASSIVE overreaction.
Here are the things that happened to me as a result of being on them for less than 1 month:
-Tardive dyskinesia that was so bad that I couldn't eat (my jaw was grinding involuntarily, so I couldn't open my mouth; I literally had to force my mouth open with my hands). My legs would also randomly twitch, so I kept falling over.
-Gained 10 pounds.
-Daytime sleepiness
-Couldn't sleep because of the tardive dyskinesia.
@@Hollyucinogen ❤️🩹
I think a psychiatrist knows better than you, you obviously don't read the instructions because insomnia and depression resistant to other drugs are indications for their usage. I've been on 8 different antipsychotics for almost 10 years and I didn't notice any side effects (aside from clozapine and terrible drooling)
@@Silenceeify Ivana, what you think is unimportant to me or the wellbeing of people on a wider scale.
@@Silenceeify Psychiatrists are specifically trained to simply offer as many drugs for as long as possible as "treatment'. And if you get any side-effects from them, then they'll offer you another drug to combat the side-effects of that one before they consider taking you off of it. The number of doctors who don't do that are like, 1/10. I just fired a doctor for doing this less than 1 month ago.
They're banking on people having blind faith in them. The vast majority of doctors only care about their pocket book, not their patients.
I'm glad to see more MDs talking about the growing link between Autoimmune Disorders and mental health. As someone with an AutoImmune disease that was misdiagnosed and mistreated as Bipolar for years, I think every psychiatric provider should be considering these in their differentials. It's an actual night a day difference in mental health being treated properly, going from anti-depressants to anti-inflammatory medications.
Which anti-inflammatory meds?
Serious autoimmune diseases like MS also involves serious meds such as immunosuppressive drugs. Putting the patient at much higher risk of cancer long-term. Such as what happened to my twin. But things like Hashimotos, yes, I agree with him by changing diet and then taking the HRT when hypothyroid, such as what I have. But antidepressants can be good for some people both short and long-term. This guy has no clue by generalizing like a fool.
@@24JJ821I don’t think you finished listening. At the end he talks about those for whom long term works.
@@24JJ821 Hard agree. The moment he talked about diet fixing autoimmune conditions and subsequently fixing depression I knew not to take him seriously. When diet fixes autoimmune symptoms, it doesn't cure them completely but often minimizes them. If it were really cured, then you could eat whatever you want without side effects. I am someone with an incredibly limited diet for health reasons, changing my diet made massive strides in my pain, fatigue, and many other symptoms. But it didn't make it all go away. The connection is immense and massively understated, but it's more of a correlation or one of multiple contributing factors than a sole cause and effect narrative, and that is an incredibly important distinction to make. He's working off of half baked notions and it's a dangerous game.
@@24JJ821you need iodine not synthetic t4 that wont convert into t3 cos your liver os too busy processing other toxic meds
Im on an anti-anxiety med, and on antidepressants and anxiety meds for 10+ years, on top of working in the medical field. While I agree that antidepressants and the like are handed out like opiods used to be, there GENUINELY are people who need these all the time. I dont feel like any of my other emotions are blunted, its nearly entirely my anxiety, depression, runaway thoughts, anxiety attacks, etc. Even with extensive therapy for longer than I've been on the meds, I have never been able to deal with those issues in any other way.
You talk about long term concerns on peoples life, but the short term is me literally not dying because of my mental health.
I completely agree. I take maximum dose of SSRI daily for 15 years. Took me out of disabled psychotic hell. No side effects, no diminishment of feelings, no reduction in benefits. Sometimes the cause of mental illness is wrong brain chemicals, perhaps similar to an epileptic or ADHD.?
There’s no one size fits all here
I’ve tried REALLY hard to not be on SSRI’s. I’ve been on them since I was 18 and I’m now 35. I have a panic disorder that leads to debilitating panic attacks, heart palpitations etc. I feel “normal” and able to function with them. I know this doesn’t work for everyone
@@JessicaNichole89
@@JosephCymrank I concur with you.
Young drs are smarter and more intuitive than the old school ones...thank you...I needed you 25 years ago, now I'm stuck on them
Been on it for 18 years.. tried going off multiple times.. withdrawals are horrible 😢
Me too I've been taking mine for 28 years and I'm not even going to try to get off...
38 years on them here 😢
Wow, I didn't realise how long ppl stay in them! Don't the effects of them plateau, so what's the point being on them? But I guess the severe withdrawals is the main factor ppl stay on them.
@@renee3148 you definitely can and I did get immune to some of them so they had to switch me to a different one every so many years.
I have been off SSRI for 5 yrs, best decision I have made for myself. Never again. The taper was rough, but I got through it.
I'm doing it now. I'm having a difficult time getting completly off.
Yea I just completely stopped. Would not recommend that.
What was your experience on them
@@shanecorr1694 When I cut my dose way down, my emotions came back. I never realized they were gone. I know that sounds crazy, but that's what happened. I never did anything for fun. Since almost being off if them, I've obtained tickets to two concert, complelty cleaned out my yard, and am now in the process of planting in the flower beds. I never cared about any of that before. I feel like I have 6 years of life to catch up on.
@@dextermorgan1 take at least 3 months - at least
Having traumas as a young child, I read that my brain hasn't had the opportunity to create serotonin as it should. After living with anxiety and depression due to my traumas I find myself 20 years later on citalopram (more than 5 years on) and I have tried to get off this med but the withdraw symptoms are unbearable to me and i become depressed again and irritable .
The same thing is happening to me 😟 I am going to try liquid citalopram and go down even slower. 10mg to 5mg caused me debilitating withdrawal symptoms
I do not agree , I have to take med
everyone has "read something".
Eight weeks after my husband passed away my sister - a nurse for 30 years at that time - kept i insisting that I needed antidepressants. We had been married for 33 years and he was a loving, supportive wonderful man with the wickedest sense of humour ever! She pushed me for months. She could not understand why I was profoundly sad, weepy and listless. I did not go on them.
Did she take them herself?
When my husband passed, I was stunned by how clueless the medical profession was about grief.
There are events we experience in life ... not a reason to start taking a pill, that God knows how it will long turn effect be. Say no to these pill pushers!! They are all into it for the MONEY.
So sorry for your loss.
@@CJ-jq4lv Thank you.
Good explanation. But the injury takes place for many while taking the drug. Some don’t have any withdrawal. But are left with the cognitive and neurological adverse effects they acquired while taking the antidepressants. This needs to be discussed more.
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You are absolutely right!
My doctor prescribed a SSRI for me after I fell into a heap after several deaths in my family.
Somehow I ended up taking them for decades as a 'preventative' maintenance dose as recommended by the doctor.
I am now in a protracted withdrawal and it is absolute hell!
I DIDN'T sign up for this neurological damage 😢
Yup so true, I'd love more people to talk about this
Spread the word everywhere you go, save future generations. Do not let your suffering be in vain!
Better yet, refrain from forcing them into this hell in the first place.
I would rather let my child try medical Marijuana than ever take meds. Im stuck on them and they are evil and awful. I hate them so much
@chellefell1331 Stuck on them? How do you mean that? I've taken them most of my adult life but have free will to wean down and quit at any time! How is that any different for you? I'm curious.
@chellefell1331 there is a way slow taper of 10 percent and hold six weeks. It will take years but doable. I'm off after 27 years took me 5.7 years to fo the hyperbolic taper off effexor.
I was diagnosed with clinical major depression, panic attacks and panic disorder when I was 19. I barely made it through school. I am now 65 and I have been on SSRIS the entire time. I'm fine and I suspect that they have kept me from having subsequent episodes
I agree!!!
Have you been taking them since you were 19? I am in them for 18 years and I am very worried about longterm side effects..
They came on the market in the late 80s, weren't around before then. Did you start when they became available?
The problem is you've actually no idea the body is made to balance itself. If you're relying on SSRIs for seratonin, your body has probably stopped making it itself as it doesn't need to. If you tried to come off it now you may find your body cannot ever make it itself again. That's three per of the body to calibrate to what is put into it
Problem is, you've no idea. Your body always calibrates itself to accommodate for what goes into it. If you tried to come off SSRIs now you may find you can't as your body may never make it's own seratonin again. It may have stopped the ability to since your giving it artificially
I grew up in depression as a child. I dreamed of suicide daily and self hatred, on the outside I had a smile on my face. In my twenties, I wasn’t sleeping and hit rock bottom. I met a counselor, who would not put me on antidepressants. I am so thankful. Thru her I finally faced all of the mental and sexual abuse from my family and abusive marriage. It was painful getting it all out but 30 years later, I am happy and whole. Sometimes the extreme anxiety comes around , but I stop and tell myself where it is coming from.
❤❤
I was on the SSRI-Lithium-Diazepine treatment cycle for about 17 years. I found the ssri's started to have the opposite effect at that point. I have been off of all of that type of medicine for 23 years now. You are correct though I am damaged emotionally and live alone. I am happy to have survived the bad meds at least.
My heart is with you.
I'm 67 on long term sleep meds for anxiety and insomnia. I get very lonely used to sit in coffee shops, managed to give that up during COVID.
When I went on antidepressants I was with an abusive spouse, and I was working with horrible colleagues in my job. There seemed to be nothing good in my life except my kids. I got divorced, and that piled upon financial stress. Antidepressants saved my life and helped me work with horrible people at work, horrible friends, and horrible family members. I don’t have any of those awful people in my life anymore.
Me too. Can we just have purpose and connection?
@@amusedBYfoolsAgreed! Allegedly we're more "connected" than ever before, yet loneliness is now called an epidemic. Hmmm... 👀
SSRI SAVED MY LIFE !!!! (OCD)
Me too. Same. I have OCD and ADHD.
Me too, psychiatrists should be more rigorous on prescribing these meds, FFS my feelings are in a freaking normal range not the "I feel like doing nothing, want to cry all day "
Tell me more please 🙏
There are much safer alternatives!
@@sweetbeep Like what ??? Nothimg else semed to help !!!
I was put on psych drugs at 15. Getting off of the drugs at 30 and finally treating the parasitic infection and gut dysbiosis that was causing me to act bi-polar was the best thing I ever did. So many mood problems have a physiological cause that needs to be treated. Psych drugs are just masking the problem with a band-aid. A lot of people are infested with harmful microbes/parasites and don’t have enough of the beneficial bacteria. Especially if you eat sushi and raw meat.
Everyone should see a Functional MD or good Naturopath before embarking on the psych drug path. Those are the Drs that will actually spend an hour or two with you and run tests that are actually helpful to figure out root causes of what is going on. We have so many environmental toxin exposures that are wreaking havoc on our brain health as well. Regular Drs and psychiatrists don’t even test for toxin levels.
Best comment!
Antidepressants have been a transformative intervention in my life for nearly two decades. They have effectively alleviated persistent anxiety, significantly improving my emotional well-being. The efficacy of antidepressants can be likened to a key unlocking a lock. Over the past 20 years, I have never contemplated discontinuing this remarkable medical advancement. It is crucial to recognize that advocating for the cessation of antidepressant use is akin to suggesting that a diabetic individual should discontinue insulin therapy. While it may be desirable to live free of prescription medications under ideal circumstances, the reality is that many individuals, including myself, do not fit into this category.
You have been braiwashed, comparing antidepressants to diabetic issues people have when they lack of natural insuline in their bodies is a markiting tool pharmaceutical companies invented. Truth is truth.You belive in illusion.
It's an emotional well-being that doesn't belong to you though since you didn't produce it yourself. Can you see what I mean? It's okay if you don't. What is wrong with not being perfectly fine all the time? That's how we learn and become stronger; by supering difficulty after difficulty without resorting to drugs and escape. The most important thing in your life is that your emotions are genuine. By altering your emotions you practically live a life that isn't really yours.
Depression is a natural part of life. Completely natural. You've been conditioned into believing you need to medicate. And "fix" yourself to fit the narrative of this society. To get to this truth one needs to arrive to a few enlightenments. In the natural way.
@@equilibrium-stayFreeWhat you’re describing is _sadness,_ not actual depression. They are two very different things. “Life-coaching” your way out of serious depression isn’t an option, unfortunately.
@ettbattresverigenu
There are a subset of individuals who truly need medication. I am one who will continue to have severe melancholic major depressive episodes if I don't stay on my antidepressant. There are other forms of depression that I can deal with by using therapy, exercise, diet, socializing, etc. However, the former needs medication or I would be completely non functioning and causing damage to myself.
Check out Psychotropical..dr Ken Gillman in Australia..an expert on the MAOI group of antidepressants. I’ve taken them for over 40 years and now permanently. Life saver.
If not for antidepressants, I'm sure I wouldn't be here. Having said that, I don't think they are a cure, but a crutch to enable one to function on a basic level. I beleive I may have some damage from taking them for so many years. I have been off of them for 6 months and still experience brain zaps.
I've studied psychology for a number of years in pre-med coursework. What I find amazing about this discussion is that it does not address the topic of combining of drug therapy and psychotherapy. From what my college professors have stressed is that many psychiatrist will refuse to prescribe antidepressants without having their patient ALSO follow through with psychotherapy. Engaging in psychotherapy addresses the issue of identifying the origins of depression and engaging in talk therapy to resolve those issues often leading to a reduction or discontinuance of prescribed psychiatric meds all together.
My family doctor just pulled out her prescription pad. There was no counseling, no discussion of diet change, no inquiry about home life. Just "oh you're depressed", "take this drug". The PCP's are handing this stuff out like candy with no support to go with it.
@@meade5267 Many psychiatrists will do that too - 15 min appointment and you walk out with a new prescription and nothing else.
I came off Zoloft after 14 years in 2019. I've never been the same since: flatlining is still there, no libido at all, no real positive emotions but exacerbated negative ones. This is despite a healthy weight, regular exercise, and a family (wife and children) who provide healthy relationships.
Ditto after my use of SSRI for 25 years.
When I was on Zoloft, my mood was elevated and then I became more depressed and more irritable. I got off that after a few months and now I take a small dose of Wellbutrin and I don’t have any side effects. They did offer me genetic testing for psych meds so maybe that will become more common to do that so that way it’s not like trial and error on people.
I've been taking Escitalopram for many years, and I have no intention to interrupt it...I wanna go on taking it till I die
They don’t work forever
Did u got any sexual side effects on escitaloprám?
I'd rather die than to take any antidepressants again.
Truth!❤
Same.
Me too and benzodiazepines
Same and benzosss
That's what it does come to
I feel worse coming off my SSRI (over 10 years' multiple drugs, 3 years' protracted withdrawal and counting) than I ever did pre-drug depressed/anxious. Think very carefully before going on an SSRI for any length of time.
I have bipolar disorder. I will have to take antidepressants the rest of my life. I currently do not have side effects after taking them for 30 years. I hope and pray it stays that way. If I didn't take them I would have been unalive a long time ago
Read the product information leaflet that accompanies your meds. The manufacturers are required by law to include a big fat 'black box warning" that the product can cause "suicidal ideation and tendencies and homicidal impulses" (the latter especially to men)
@@aalliaandreadis5109what a hell does that have to do with them getting better. Meds worked for them.
@@aalliaandreadis5109Are you aware bipolar disorder doesn't have a cure? Or you're just a trolll?
@@aalliaandreadis5109 I think @KepiGal 's comment went totally over your head.
For those of you who have a hard time getting off antidepressants and want to, but keep having withdrawals. Of course the disclaimer is discuss with your doctor first. I got off Effexor on my own. One of the worst withdrawals reported is from that. I was sllllllllooowwwly tapering off. Like I’d remove a few beads from the capsule one one day, then remove the same amount the next and so forth. Then after a week, I’d remove a bit more. And so forth. It did take a good 6 months for me to taper off completely but I did with little to almost no side effects. There might have been a few minor brain zaps which is actually a withdrawal side effect and normal. But nothing crippling. So bottom line, just do it very slowly. There’s no rush. Take your time reducing the intake little by little. Then I started to skip a day when it was down to the lowest dosage. Every other day. Every two days and so forth.
I'm on this one and have been for past 2-3 years dosage of 37.5mg and before that I was on Sertraline for few years, and transitioned to Effexor. However, I now feel that I want to try to get off Effexor completely to see how I feel without taking it! I will discuss with Dr before hand. Thank you for your advice... much appreciated!
Effexor did the same thing to me! My psychiatrist said she'd never heard of someone needing to open the capsule and count the beads. The brain zaps are so uncomfortable.
25 years on them ruined me. Massive weight gain and settling into routine. Off them clear now 2 years after disastrous short taper as prescribed. I went back on then just came off over a few months. The after affects of crashing off were euphoria and downs followed 2 years later by breaking thru many issues that should have been faced decades ago. The last 3 weeks I went back on protein eating boiled chicken and an egg every morning - it has made me feel and look better. Doctors didnt give an F what my issues were.
The problem is not that these drugs DO NOT treat the root cause. If that was the case it wasn't as bad. The problem is that they PREVENT from reaching (and thus treating) the root cause, the interfere with treating the root cause, since they act as emotional antagonists. They prevent feeling, they INTERFERE with healing.
@@akosboley_blabla The psychiatrists handing them out said they did.
Gotta face those negative feelings and sit with them. Running away from them leads to bad things.
@@janedoe6704 depression is your body telling you things need to change. For some people they need to numb their feelings a bit in order to have the capacity to do the work. For people like me that's not a great idea as I need to have some discomfort to get me to the point of wanting to make changes. If I'm numbed out I don't have any incentive to try to change things.
@@1Jason yes I was on an antidepressant for a short time the only thing it did was make me numb and have no incentive to work on things. When I went off of the antidepressant the only thing that happened was I became aware of my feelings again and things felt worse because I wasn't doing the work to improve my situation.
That's not really scientific though. It could just readjust things in your brain and you won't have a problem. It's not necessarily the case that feeling like crap is healing.
I am on escitalopram 5mg , from last 2 years my life has never been so good.
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im on 30mg have been for years had a brain injury 55 years ago . character changing .got put on them in 2001. I often wonder what I would be like off them ,
How about abusive family systems with strong correlations with depression (C-ptsd)?
Sounds like my family. My depression was rooted in trauma & low esteem due it abuse & neglect. Didn’t learn healthy coping skills either.
Nobody ever tells you how empty you will feel when you stop taking them. It’s like…..everything is gone inside…..nothing….feels. I fear sometimes I won’t feel like I’m alive again if I don’t go back on them.
Lots of people feel much worse if they try to stop or lower the dose including myself. Most doctors claim this is a relapse and try to up the dose. But it's really withdrawal. The only way to avoid it is a super slow taper over the course of years.
I've been sharing this video with friends and family also on antidepressants. They don't understand why I'm tapering off 2 antidepressants 1 mood stabilizer and 1 benzodiazepine. So far I've tapered off of Bromazepam. I'm starting to taper off of zoloft. I even bought a drug scale on Amazon. In July I'm going to ask my psychiatrist for lower doses of Bupropion and Lamotrigine. They are extended release so I'm not able to cut the tablets. He is shocked at my plans so I hope there won't be a problem. It's been a tough journey but worth it to have a clearer mind and emotions again. I didn't realize how numb I was. Thank you for your videos! I had planned to go cold turkey until I watched your videos.
Good for you! Please be very, very, careful tapering. It rakes a long time!
Yes. It's easy to want to do it now but I'm taking it slow.
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Lamotrigine comes in immediate release so you may want to switch to that when you're ready to taper. You can also get chewable dispersible tablets to make a liquid.
I weaned off an antidepressant. I don’t think it’s one that is nearly as hard, particularly not as tough as benzodiazepines. I did it myself and slowly. If I remember it took a year, maybe 18 months. No side effects. Hoping the best in your journey.
Thank you doctor. It is abusive how frequently these meds are prescribed. Patients often not adequately educated. Breaks my heart.
I’m a retired physician. We were taught to downplay the side effects for fear we might give patients ideas! Most of medical education was about identifying the disease and what the drugs were to treat that disease.
It’s only after I retired that I finally had time to do my own research that I figured out almost every disease could be fixed with a very low carb, ketogenic diet. The food pyramid was all about politics, and our regulatory agencies were bought off by big food & big pharma. Our food supply is contaminated with pesticides, preservatives and toxic additives. Our body was never meant to eat a highly processed, high carb diet. 90% of medical research is paid for by big food, big pharma, and the corrupt NIH.
Not every disease, some have nothing to do with diet. Plus complex carbs are healthy, it's refined carbs that cause health problems.
My depression lifted with testosterone replacement after menopause. I am at optimal range now. But, my GP wanted to place me on a low dose SSRI. I said no way. found a GYN who specializes in hormone replacement I am 55 and feel 30 again.
I've been on every touted diet. Changing an individual's food preferences can cause a lot of stress. Two years ago I did the keto diet. Problem was I didn't eat any carbs. I lost 25 lbs in 25 days. I was so weak everytime I stood up I passed out. At 81, I'm not stressing over diets. I'm happy and for me that is hugh.
In your next life, do your own research first. What a load of crap to say you didn't have time for this until retirement.
It's terrible to think that doctors have unwittingly and unknowingly become marketing arms of big pharma.
This video describes exactly how my life played out from the time I first went on anti-depressants at 30 until the time I finally got myself off them at 55.
I also started Zoloft first around 33 yrs old and I'm not sure when I switched to Paxil. I'm now 51 yrs old and I don't even care to shower or brush my teeth. Of course I have zero libido thanks to Paxil and menopause. I just want to be normal again. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just lazy..? But seriously, just thinking of showering depresses me. I have to watch motivational videos.
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I have been of anti depressants for over a decade and I am going back on.
I have had several talk therapies and they did jack sh/t. I have plenty of exercse. Nothing worked on atypical depression I do plenty of exercise as a farm hand.
I am a high functioning depressed person. I can function with 4 hours of sleep. I can only sleep 8 hours on SSRIs and I am going back on. I had some adverse life events 20 years ago. Some bad stuff in my childhood before that. SSRIs is the only thing that worked.
Talking about my feelings does not make the things go away that make me misserable. Had several therapists. Solved a thyroid issue with medication. Solved a vitamine d issue with supplementation. I made some of my therapists depressed and made them question their life choices lol.
The root causes (there are several ones) of my depression cant be helped. One of them is genetics. It runs in my family. I dont have kids to lass these bad genes onto. I have exhausted every option.
SSRIs reduce my anxiety and feelings of hopelessness for 10%. I will take it. Meditation works 10%.The other 80% I will just have to tough it out. As a kid I vowed not to yield to the darkness. But if I get Alzheimers or dementia I will pull the plug. Or maybe the dementia will knock out the specific tiny part of my brain that makes me depressed first.
If there is a root cause you can CHANGE you are lucky.
I have been of anti depressants for over a decade and I am going back on.
I have had several talk therapies and they did jack sh/t. I have plenty of exercse. Nothing worked on atypical depression I do plenty of exercise as a farm hand.
I am a high functioning depressed person. I can function with 4 hours of sleep. I can only sleep 8 hours on SSRIs and I am going back on. I had some adverse life events 20 years ago. Some bad stuff in my childhood before that. SSRIs is the only thing that worked.
Talking about my feelings does not make the things go away that make me misserable. Had several therapists. Solved a thyroid issue with medication. Solved a vitamine d issue with supplementation. I made some of my therapists depressed and made them question their life choices lol.
The root causes (there are several ones) of my depression cant be helped. One of them is genetics. It runs in my family. I dont have kids to lass these bad genes onto. I have exhausted every option.
SSRIs reduce my anxiety and feelings of hopelessness for 10%. I will take it. Meditation works 10%.The other 80% I will just have to tough it out. As a kid I vowed not to yield to the darkness. But if I get Alzheimers or dementia I will pull the plug. Or maybe the dementia will knock out the specific tiny part of my brain that makes me depressed first.
If there is a root cause you can CHANGE you are lucky.
I first got on them when I was 34. 52 now
I am a pharmacist and you hit the nail on the head with these 5 reasons.
I think part of the problem is medications guidelines and dosages are developed by people who have never suffered with depression personally. There’s not an in depth understanding of how a person with depression experiences the world. This leads researchers to use antiquated outcomes as a measure of success.
Amen!
After 20 years on meds, I stumbled across.
"Dr Berg - depression, the root cause"
Followed everything, turns out I was low on vitamin D and magnesium.
Why aren’t family systems as emphasized as genetics?
After psychiatrists and a lot of research i accepted to to AD (SSRI) against general anxiety.
It took a while for it work. But the doctor wanted me to increase the dose, and that appeared to be a bad idea. Stopped myself by decreasing the dose in 2 years.
For 6 years or so it worked, but: a lot of stress at my job, and anxiety came back.
It was a struggle. Finally started again at the absolute minumum dose. And it changed my life again.
When i stop working, i stop the AD, not earlier.
I suffered bipolar/suicidal from age 34 to age 69, then got vitamin B 12 with methylcobalamin last Aug. 2023 and then quit smoking without any withdrawals, dropped two of my meds, and have never had another bipolar incident or depression
Chicken or the egg argument. When you can’t get out of bed, don’t have the umph to comb out your rat’s nest and spend what minuscule amount of energy you have trying to appear normal enough to avoid concern from friends/family…creating a healthy meal plan isn’t happening. I understand the concept of taking it long enough to get you out of the trenches. Be able to WANT to eat healthier. But still can’t wrap my head around the idea of taking it away. What exactly does it “fix” in your body that makes it possible to stop taking it and stay motivated?
I was on Effexor for 7 years. I quit cold turkey in October. Since quitting I have been going through absolute hell!! Horrible anxiety & depression, complete loss of confidence, no motivation, cannot set goals & achieve them. This is not me! I just want the real me back! I believe I am in the throes of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome.
I did the same in 2019 and felt similar withdrawal symptoms. Reinstated after 7 months...it took higher dosages to feel OK....then waited 4 months and started tapering very slowly at rate of 10% of current dosages. Worked better for me that way...Still taking effexor but much less dosages
Yes Effexor are known for bringing terror. I would reinstate and taper very slowly when you are stabil again. 10% taber is to much for many, I would do 5%.
I have been there myself I know how it is.
Slow is fast.
And be extra careful when you get to roughly 20 mg then taper even slower 1-2% a month.
You might need to reinstate if you suffer from akathesia or SI. If so a low dose might be sufficient to stabilize. You will heal but might take longer than if you would've done hyperbolic taper.
Yep, my emotional energy, that intuitive feeling that there might be something magical and satisfying in the future for you. I stopped talking to family, I get really irritated and become mean, I fake being normal, I don't go out to people anymore, just stay by myself and go to work and gym or coffeeshop.
Omgosh you seriously must feel terrible. I’m so sorry. Effexor is not an easy drug to taper from. Cold Turkey it just takes you down to Davy’s locker. I would not reinstate that drug! Dr Josef has many many videos on Effexor withdrawal, injuries and tapering. Stay with it.
This is good information, but don’t stop taking these drugs without medical supervision
Thanks for saying the truths.
Knocking out the batteries out of a smoke detection is such a strong analogy
Paroxetine did not blund my range of emotions at all... it stopped me feeling extremely anxious all the time. Suddenly (and this after years of therapy) there was room for other feelings and there still was anxiety but not so overwhelming and paralyzing. After 10 years I stopped taking the anti depressants and this went well for a couple of years, until now. And this video scared the hell out of me: gives me a feeling of hopelessness. There is no solution anymore.
Seriously it must be end game.
He's not saying don't take the medication. It sounds like they worked for you. But make sure all your lifestyle stuff is in order because that ages a huge difference and could reduce your need for medication.
(I speak as someone who has been there, survived, been a guinea pig for many different meds - some helped and others harmed - and is recovered now with hard work and very careful planning and efforts around lifestyle choices.)
As soon as they are in your system you are risking your health and putting yourself at risk for serious complications. Simply not being able to feel like yourself and enjoy life the way you used to is a horrible experience - and that may be the least of it.
10 years on anti depressants. Changed my life for the better 100%
I've been on SSRIS's since 14 (I'm 35 now). I've come off of them with slow tapers several times and can't take the protracted withdrawals so always go back on them. I hate these medications. All I want is to be off of them and I CAN'T DO IT!
You CAN do it! Research HOW to taper first. Check out Dr. Mark Horowitz (TH-cam) on protocols. It can take a long time , but worth it.❤
You can ❤
I’m so sorry. I’m right there with you. One day at a time. Did you use hyperbolic taper and super slow reductions with long time between reductions? I’ve had to go up and start over again. There didn’t used to be as much info in the past. Tapering too quickly causes problems. I’m tapering less than 3% each reduction from previous amount- and waits months between reductions. Although it’s still difficult, especially when I get to the point where I had trouble last time. I’m holding for now. But I also have a nurse practitioner helping me and I am using liquid for Clonazepam. Then I need to work on getting off Lexapro.
We really need a place or clinic where they understand tapering and deprescibing. We need help!
Try getting this book:
The Maudsley Deprescribing Guidelines: Antidepressants, Benzodiazepines, Gabapentinoids and Z-drugs (The Maudsley Prescribing Guidelines Series)
Mark Horowitz and David Taylor authors. I am unable to read more than a paragraph and remember anything but a friend has read the whole book and helps me understand sometimes.
Perhaps Dr, Josef would see you.
Thank you saying this outloud. Ten years on an SSRI, probably helped for a few months, but ultimately changing lifestyle, diet and mindet were the most helpful. I slowly tapered off over a few months. I also convinced myself mentally it would be easy and I didn't need them. Only very slight withdrawal symptoms. I focused on creating the new me,my new habits. I wouldn't wish long term use on anyone. Be well! ❤
Diet like what
I had a profound depression almost thirty years ago when I got divorced. I took Prozac for approximately three years, and for at least one year I took also ambien (Stilnox) to help me sleep. I was lucky to be able to come off these drugs safely, but gradually, and never to need taking them after this painful period.
This medication saved my life.
Placebo saved your life.
These drugs are just little better than placebo and cause disasters.
You seem very well-meaning and intelligent and I’m sure your advice applies to SOME but not all people.
For DECADES I did everything I could to treat myself: years of therapy (which helped me to understand myself but also kept me focused on negativity), walking daily, journal writing, meditation and yoga, getting out with friends… and more. I still do most of these things today in fact but NONE of it helped me to make the right decisions in life because I was anxious, avoided real closeness for fear of not being liked, angry, sad….
I lived and did a lot in my life but I sabotaged myself all of the time and lived well below my ability as far as God-given intelligence and talent.
I didn’t want to take medication for years because I thought it was a crutch and made me someone else. Now I actually believe they make me MYSELF. I can accept being successful, I want to get out more and be with people, feel and act deserving of a good life. I just think some people are born so sensitive that today’s world is too overwhelming, and taking the edge off slightly is a good thing.
But how long have you been on antidepressants? Because he doesn’t say they don’t work short time. They made a world of difference for me AT FIRST. But after taking them for years and weaning myself off of them because they were no longer working, I now pretty much have no feelings. I don’t think I am capable of happiness or joy.
Further, he didn’t say no one should be on them long term. At the end he talks about people for whom it is appropriate.
As an autistic with ADHD, I already have little or no contact with my emotions. I am easily overwhelmed and intense feelings just push me over the edge. Add to that CPTSD from an abusive childhood followed by an emotionally abusive 21 yrs of marriage. I'm a mess. Without bupropion I would not be here. I am hoping the recent addition of Abilify will help even more. Maybe enough that I can find out who I really am, learn healthy boundaries, and get in touch with my feelings about things. I am a little hopeful. I would do better if I could actually afford a therapist, but that is not in the cards.
The drugs are stimulants. Like a long drug chase that never ends.
@@mrnt1257 3+ years and I still have my feelings. I cry, I love my animals, I have empathy. I just don’t feel like hiding under the covers all day.
@@Lulu-kt6grsame here!
Thank you forr this!!! My life is currently in a mess and doctors are always trying to "fix" me with ad. That will not solve anything I am going through it will just make me less sensitive. I need solutions for my life problems not temporary patches!
Spot on. I believe it is every person's right to be fully informed and then decide if they feel like they need the help of the SSRI to turn down the volume for awhile during a crisis. It is a misconception that they will be healed by these medications. If they were healed, why would they need to stay on them indefinitely?
@@taperclinic thank you! The fact is, I knew I had real problems in life, and that meds will not solve them, they would just made me more "resilient" to stress. Maybe. But seeing the list of side-effects I decided to try with solving the problems without making them more blurred in my mind. Still not done but, I do need clear mind for my art. And art helps.
I was on 20mg Fluoxetine for 3 years and kicking it was as hard as kicking opiates, I did that in 2019. It took ~6 months to get back to normal.
It's been an absolute outrage watching so many people who just needed some therapy, a vacation or even new friends/spouse- just a positive change- being destroyed by a prescriber seeking their commissions and incentive goals. I'm 55 yrs old and have definitely had major rough patches in my life- never once taken a pill to "cope" with devastating situations. Hard to watch everyone around me turn into zombies, marriages/families ruined & have their lives get harder & revolve around pills. If docs had some accountability- things would be very different.
Why would marriages fall apart if people were taking antidepressants? If anything it would keep people together because they're not so miserable anymore.
@@Mmmmkaaay how extremely naive & unfamiliar you are with all the negative side effects on these drugs.
Loss of libido (sex drive) is the most common side effect.
A VERY large number of people experience another common side effect- suicidal thoughts and WORSENING symptoms.
It would take me DAYS to list all the horrific problems antidepressants and antipsychotics cause. It's tragic that you think these pills just work great for everyone who eats them 🤦😆😂🤣
I’m 66 years old and have no relatives or anyone and live alone. Have been on tranxene for 30 years probably. Exact same dose, 15mg twice a day never changes. I pretty much have a normal life with them . Honestly I don’t see any reason on quitting them. Except my doctor retired and I have a feeling like someone is going to make me stop ( which would be cruel) I have nobody at all. And at age 66 putting myself through that seems a bit ridiculous. It would basically be the end of me.
Tranxene is not an antidepressant drug.
Your channel is a blessing for sure feel like im coming off my second taper down on benzos, and i rlate my night sweats to that. Ladt night first night i didn't have to change clothes 3 times from sleep to waking up wet, prayers requested thank you and GOD BLESS ALL
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I've been off a benzo for a month now and I'm sweating so bad too. I invested in cooling pillows and bamboo bedding. Night sweats are the worst!
I once got off xanax and the feeling of being outside of my body was terrifying!
If you started treating people's pain and sleep most other things will fall into place unless you have serious problems I've been depressed for most of my life and it's always been pain related to pain emotional, physical chronic pain
Right off the top in starting to watch this video, is when he says, "we need to get to the root of the problem". It seems like almost all doctors, specialists, and therapist just want to medicate. Right now, not even including the lifetime mental illness that I've been a victim of, but I've developed really bad rheumatoid arthritis symptoms in the past two years. I've been going around and around with specialists to get them to see if we can find the cause, the root problem. No. Only meds.
RA is a registered vaccine injury, written on most product information leaflets that accompany the injections.
I was clearly a depressed child, although my parents loved me and there weren’t stressors in my early life. It’s nonsense to suggest there is no medical reason for depression. My anti depressant is the reason I’m alive today.
Same with me.
Well said,totally agree with you there
I had been on so many different antidepressants, mood stabilizers, etc. With, two of the psychotropic medications, Lamictal and Risperadone, that caused something called Protracted Withdrawal Syndrome, which is where, even though when I stopped taking those drugs and they were out of my system they had caused damage in my nervous system that caused my anxiety level to go out of control and I was taking my anti anxiety meds all the time and could have lasted longer than it did for me which was for months and TMS is what finally helped me so much to stop what was going on. TMS hasn't caused me any bad side effects and really lowered my anxiety level and I might only need to take my anti anxiety medication once every couple of months in certain situations. Another thing about why depression being a chemical imbalance is wrong is that 95% of our serotonin is produced in the gut. How could an antidepressant drug help the way its supposed to then. Dr. Josef, thanks for posting this. Really good information.
Lamictal/Lamotrigine has completely messed up my nervous system. I now have Ataxia and Dystonia for the rest of my life. SSRI always made me manic but Dr kept increasing them and adding on others. I stopped all the SSRI on my own gradually and am no longer having manic episodes.Lamotrigine seems to help overall, as long as it’s a low dose.
I’ve been on lamictal and most drugs mentioned in the comments for my epilepsy, it’s very very worrying and weird they use it for anxiety and depression
This is critical information. Thanks doc. This is the truth about these drugs. I’m a 20 year plus psychotherapist/ mental health clinician. They work best with chronically and progressively suicidal individuals, and those with clinically significant depression- then, they can get off of them once they’ve got all around better coping and have built distress tolerance skills/ cbt/dbt.
I have fought depression for decades and off and on antidepressants as long. Nothing ever seemed to help. A few years ago I attempted suicide twice and come very close to succeeding the second time. I awoke after the 4th day with a tube down my throat and strapped to the bed and was watched 24 hours a day even after I woke. Was transported to a psych ward where I discovered I needed to do everything I could to get out and avoid anything like that happening again. I was on medication short term and therapy. It was difficult but I didn't want to go through it again ever.
I hope you are feeling better now. Take care
Suicidal ideation and attempts are written on the product information leaflet of any anti depressant with a black box warning signifying a ptoven adverse reaction
I'm 21 years old and it's been 3 months since I stopped taking sertraline cold turkey after 2 months of use. It's absolutely hell the physical symptoms have gone but the emotional damage is done. I can't feel joy, excitement or love anymore, when I look into my girlfriend's eyes I feel nothing. I have no libido, erecticle dysfunction and I feel like my soul has been taken from me. When I read the accounts of people who say that this lasts 6 years, 10 years, 21 years etc it's hard to not lose hope. Sertraline has made me 100 times worse than I was before, I'm just a bag of bones now.
I’m sorry 😔 Sadly your story is all too common. I really hope things improve for you. I hope your gf is understanding ❤️🩹
Don't give up - you will recover- find a good therapist / psychologist and not a psychiatrist to help you.
I promise this isn't true homie. You are overthinking it. I felt that way at that age and it all just changes. Don't worry.
And dude there's no way you'd get permanently stuck like that after only 2 months of use 😆
@@TrentAdam People develop pssd which lasts for years sometimes after just ONE pill. Just because YOU got better after some time doesn’t mean that EVERYONE will get better too. Do some research before just blatantly assuming that everyone must be like you.
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This is all well and good to a point. You've told us why long term is bad but that doesn't help if your doc see's nothing wrong and poo poo's you trying to get off so you try to taper on your own, disaster!! Or worse my PA insisted I get off my effexor but set up a taper way to fast and I ended up back on it at double the dose!! It's not a easy path to walk. At this point in my life I don't see ever being off SSRI'S. I've dealt with anxiety since I was a child, being off the medication is hell. Before meds I dealt with my anxiety by controlling my food intake or overeating. Life is good now. 😊
Im one of them that will be on them the rest of my life. To say they were a life saver for me would be an understatement. Its been 38 yrs since I started them.
I'm so grateful you made this video. I was going to talk to my doctor about the anxiety I've been experiencing. I was already very hesitant to start medication, and now I'm sure I don't want to. I'll explore other ways to improve my symptoms that don't include drugs.
Emotional Freedom Tapping or EFT - take it from me, a rational skeptic.... the method gently effectively shifts you, it really does. I'm still skeptical...as if tapping could help (?) yet keep going back to it because it works well. Weird as. Check it out. Lots of info online.
@@7hilladelphia Thank you for the suggestion.
Thank you for this. As a Canadian parent, I’ve been powerless to stop my dr putting my 16 year old on SSRIs. I didn’t even have the right to know what they had put her on. Medicalization of the human experience is horrific, but in North America it has successfully convinced youth that there is a pill to treat every difficult or painful life experience, treating adolescence like a disease, rather than a life experience through which we grow. This is vile profiteering, and I believe any Dr still prescribing them knows it.
You are not powerless. It is malpractice and you can sue.
@@sarahhale-pearson533 Astonishing that the government can do such things without parental consent now! I am so angry and frustrated by the governments extreme control of crucial children, girls and womens rights.
@@aalliaandreadis5109 Not so easy. Very few people can afford the legal fees.
profiteering maybe not so simple cos depression can harm too doc wants to save from that , like it damages brain for one .
There are no words for this kind of evil
You missed undiagnosed Autisme. I get 4 different types of antidepressiv and anxiety/quetiapin medicin.
Nobody new what to do with me. Everything got kickstarted because of an awful job.
November 2023 my daughter got diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrom and suddenly I understood my life in a better life healing way.
Remember neurodivergent human beings. It matters that you get the right diagnose/the reason why life is just too much.
I hope you see this, doctor. I loved your video.
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That is true, doctors are quicker to diagnose personality disorders before neurodiverse. I was only diagnosed as having ADHD at the age of 37.
My son is the same. He has aspergers autism with major depressive disorder, OCD, social anxiety and he has to take meds permanently. I lost a brother to suicide over 23 years ago due to schitzophrenia. He was 31. Mental health can't be handled lightly. It can be very serious.
I’d get a second opinion, Asperger’s is no longer a diagnosis.
Thank you Dr Josef! I’m 3,5 yrs off Cymbalta and Lyrica after 30 + yrs use of many different meds. I have all of the side effects. Struggeling with them still. Did a really slow taper of 6,5 yrs. ❤
Hi. Cymbalta here as well. What are your symptoms now?
@@7inchdestroyer959, i have had PSSD for many yrs! Still insomnia most nights, still 25 kg overweight and more. Hope that it will get better. I execise, eat really healthy food and take care of my self. Hope that one day i will be fine again! 🙏🏻❣️
So discouraging
Have you gotten better at least?
The cymbalta withdrawal for me is what is making it so hard to get off of the drug. How did you taper the cymbalta since it is in a capsule form ? Thanks!
Thank you Dr Josef. My GP is anti unnecessary drugs and accepts I need long term anti anxiety medication to function in a stressful life. I can’t change my life. Society doesn’t make life easy for some of us.
I am happy to access such support. I can cry and feel emotions strongly still.
Horrible drugs!
Dangerous and damaging. Numerous of scientific studies show that SSRI’s and other psychiatric drugs can cause irreversible damage to different parts of the brain.
Thank you for your generosity and honesty❣️
SSRI’s saved my life. I’ve tried tapering off once, and it almost killed me.
This is the BEST information! I learned this personally... every word you said. It should be a manditory prerequisite that the mental health community/psychiatrists/therapists have to refer a patient to medical practitioner for testing to rule out all possible treatable causes before any psychiatric medications can be prescribed for more than temporary use. Some mediations shut my colon down so bad I could've died. Recovery from side affects on my brain and body a decade later are still on going and debilitating. Turns out a lesser used test revealed I have multiple autoimmune disorders and hyperkalemia to name a few. I choose to hear my body when it's happy, mad or sad. I let it talk. If it hurts, I don't try to shut it up, I learn to endure the way it speaks and I have respect for it, I give in to it's demands for rest. It's not a beast of burden, it's a loyal companion, a trusted friend.
And whatever you do, don't give these drugs to teenagers.........
Or people on hormones.
@@edie4321WHY?
@@Brendawallingbear , It can cause psychosis. It happened to me with Prozac, and the Depo Provera shot. I came out of body and tried to end my life. Very dangerous combo, that needs to be talked about. Especially today, when it only takes to appointments to get hormones prescribed.
Preferably not to anyone!!
@@Jetmab04 , Seems to be, the younger, the better. They don't want them reaching the age of reason.
Pharmaceutical lobotomy 💊 the side effects are enough to make you more depressed.
Was diagnosed with treatment resistant depression, went cold Turkey new years day 2011 never looked back.
I stopped taking them cold turkey(not recommended) in 2011, but if I continued taking them I would have been dead today.
He didn’t mention once severe clinical depression not due to a life event etc. has he ever spoken to a patient who isn’t sad because of a death or a divorce, who isn’t just a little blue, but someone who is so deeply painfully sad and low that it feels like a bear is sitting on their chest. Feels like that hurt feeling you get if someone tells you you’re fat, ugly, stupid, useless… that freshly violated, hurt feeling all the time for no reason. Where would one start to find the root cause of that. This video is useless as there is no professional who has ever referred me to a therapist for in depth long term therapy, or prescribed yoga, meditation, exercise, dietary changes, and asked to see me back for an update. So telling us we’re just neurotic and shouldn’t be on meds long term when doctors aren’t advocating for anything else is a slap in the face.
Physical pain in chronic / severe form has really damaged my life. I can’t exercise or hardly walk, can’t work etc. the doctors had no problem giving me drugs like Cymbalta, which sent me to a psych ward. However to get real pain meds for real pain, I had to wait 18 months of back ground checks and filings with doctors and the DEA to get a 3x a day script…. It’s a broken system.
Josef has a video with an interesting interview with a woman in your similar situation. I absolutely recommend watching it. She has chronic pain and her life got destroyed by; in the end; not the pain but by all the pharmaceuticals. @DrJosef can you give us the title of the video please? 😊
Sleep breathing disorders are a hugely overlooked cause of depression-like symptoms. Obstructive sleep breathing disorders such as OSA and UARS are so common, yet so rarely diagnosed, while it should be the first possible cause to be eliminated whenever someone presents with mental health concerns.
Echo this, seen in my practice many times ! Wait times are so long to get patients into sleep clinics too
@@taperclinic Ironically in my case, a 60 days waiting list was my salvation. I sent you an e-mail with a link to a brief interview.
I've had nightmare disorder for 2 years now, every day getting worse. Polysomnography showed I had no problem breathing, but I never really fell asleep.
I already had depression way before the nightmare disorder, but I began having nightmares after fibromyalgia symptoms started getting worse. Tried all medications, none of them worked
But it's 100% valid to do a check up, all these symptoms I mentioned are all common to sleep apnea
@@thetrawlerman Polysomnography seems thorough, but good interpretation takes time and cost saving has the highest priority. For example, I had all the CFS/ME symptoms including POTS but my AHI score never exceeded 2.5 😆 There are some channels like CPAPfriend and TheLankyLefty26 that explain the problems with common sleep studies.
There can be many causes for depression. That one can be considered but your suggestion of that being the first thing checked is ridiculous.
Great video. best doctor going over this! These drugs make me feel permanently terrible!
Suite à un essaie de sevrage d'un antidépresseur ( je ne prenais rien d'autre) J'ai eu des difficultés respiratoires. J'avais du mal à émerger de ma nuit de sommeil et ma respiration était tellement superficielle que j'avais l'impression que j'allais arrêter de respirer. Mon chat à l'habitude de se poser sur moi le matin et ça empirait mon état. J'avais maintenant peur qu'elle me grimpe dessus au risque de mourir étouffée. De plus, j'ai commencé à expérimenter des chocs électriques brûlants dans certains endroits de mon corps lors ce que j'avais un pic d'anxiété. Ça me brûlait aux aisselles, dans le bas-ventre et dans l'haine jusqu'à mes cuisses. JAMAIS je n'ai eu de problèmes de cet ordre dans ma vie. J'ai dû reprendre la médication à cause de beaucoup d'autres raisons et ces chocs électriques brûlants ne sont jamais partis.
Merci d'en parler Dr. Josef! C'est tellement tabou et il faut que les gens sachent à quoi s'attendre sur le long terme avec ce type de médication. Ça peut sauver des vies mais ça peut aussi en détruire.
MTHFR genetic mutations alter the body's ability to utilize certain B vitamins, which leads to methylation issues that impact the production of neurotransmitters. This can be one piece of the physiological puzzle. Autoimmune problems are also highly correlated with mood disorders.
Echo this! Everyone should be tested for folate and B12/D, meds won’t help if you have a vitamin deficiency and needs to be supplemented
For me, low dose antidepressants have been a life saver and much, much more effective at reducing my elevated blood pressure than Lisinopril or Losartan and without the coughing. Why? Because in my opinion the drug addresses the root cause of the hypertension-- e.g. anxiety. Just my humble opinion. Thanks.
Wow, thanks for this info. So helpful.
This is an excellent explanation of how people function (or fail to function) when the CAUSE of anxiety or depression is not addressed! Thank you.
Thanks for this video. Wish I knew this 20 years ago when started Lexapro. Definitely have the emotional blunting even after so long. Probably won’t get off of this as my priority right now is tapering benzo.
I am tapering a benzo- then lexapro as well.
What's the alternative then, if therapy is not enough for long term relief? Just be depressed for the rest of my life?
I find that a lot of vigorous aerobic exercise helps (at least twice the American Heart Association recommendation). I’m still depressed, but it isn’t as bad. And as a bonus my cardiovascular health is great. But like you I’m also still looking for that one additional thing that would let me feel something close to the energy and enthusiasm that most people experience.
@@broddr Aerobic exercise temporarily replaces my emotional exhaustion with physical exhaustion. It makes me feel "different" for a while, but doesn't help making the time in between feel better. I'm looking for something that will give me the feeling of being refreshed, energized and looking forward to something again.
@@AnonymousCowardlyWellbutrin did that for me. Don't listen to these people that tell you to just exercise. It's not actually working like they are saying. They are putting up a front.
You can consider a different therapist and/or a different treatment technique (there are many.) You can also see a doctor about other conditions that might contribute, like vitamin D deficiency.
My depression didn't respond well to medication, but I had an autoimmune condition that wasn't well treated, I had a stressful life situation, a lot of negative self talk, and I wasn't exercising. When I addressed each of these, I no longer had depression or anxiety. This took years, since changing basically everything about my life, my habits, and my outlook was a process. But ultimately I think everyone can find relief if they can find the right treatment steps. My depression was so severe I couldn't function and didn't think I'd make it past my mid 20s. I'm 30 now and my life is awesome. I treated recovering like a full-time job and if you're able to devote the energy you have to identifying root causes and seeking help/changes for them, you'll find improvement. Even minor improvements give you the strength to keep moving forward
What about ketogenic diet? It seems to improve people’s mental issues in a lot of cases
My emotions nearly killed me so with anti dep.med i am alive and not feelinh anything is not that bad..that helps me to go on..
Wow! This video is life transforming. You had the courage to tell the truth about the long term use of antidepressants. Dr Josef you can not imagine how profoundly grateful I am for your words of wisdom for all of us who have suffered with depression/anxiety. Thank you!!
Poison. Poison. Poison.