Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson's beef is about who really made the Cowboys champions

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  • In the 1990s, the Dallas Cowboys became America's Team because of new ownership (Jerry Jones) and new blood on the sideline (Jimmy Johnson). Dallas' success building a roster and eventually winning championships was large enough for everyone to take credit for, but.... Welcome to Texas, where every ego is bigger. To this day, Jones and Johnson can't make peace longer than a few nights at the bar before a war of words starts all over again.
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  • @hostiletoxictomdowneyburne6469
    @hostiletoxictomdowneyburne6469 ปีที่แล้ว +606

    Jerry Jones is the paradox of the Cowboys. He literally saved the franchise and also is the reason why they have been irrelevant for nearly 30 years. The day Jerry dies, the day the Cowboys have a chance.

    • @TruthDissident
      @TruthDissident ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I don't think you understand what irrelevant means. This video and the constant coverage proves they aren't irrelevant.

    • @willieirvin3151
      @willieirvin3151 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      They aren't irrelevant, but sadly cowboys may never win a title until Jerry passes away

    • @RD-zx6py
      @RD-zx6py ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@TruthDissident as far as the championship picture goes they've been irrelevant.

    • @TruthDissident
      @TruthDissident ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RD-zx6py Ok. There's been plenty of teams that have gone on SB/Conference title droughts. Why is this one so special? The Steelers from 80-04 never won a title & yet it's never brought up. How about the Dolphins? Bills?

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The irony is they are the most relevant team in the league. Despite not winning a SB since 95'. They have almost never been a basement dweller. Since the Romo era they have been a .500 or better team when the starting QB stays healthy.

  • @doubledown0411
    @doubledown0411 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    The Jerry Jones drunk at the League Meetings story is something I wish Twitter had been around for 😄

    • @phillyfan-182
      @phillyfan-182 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So many stories would be making the rounds on social media.

  • @craigwoodward7638
    @craigwoodward7638 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Jerry's had 28 years to prove it was him. How's that gone?😅

    • @ChicagoStyles23
      @ChicagoStyles23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      to his credit, he did win one RIGHT AWAY after Johnson was gone so that thorn is kind of interesting which makes the beef LEGENDARY lol.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@ChicagoStyles23 With half of Johnson's roster and most of Johnson's starters.

    • @BirdGang6
      @BirdGang6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@ChicagoStyles23Switzer took Jimmy’s dream team and had them at 6-10 within 3 years. He won that Super Bowl with Jimmy’s team.

    • @ptfambam
      @ptfambam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BirdGang6 if he would have been like Belichick and Kraft they be the best team ever

    • @j-farr9294
      @j-farr9294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Duuuuude I’ve been saying that forever. Give it up Jerry your not a football guy. And Switzer did win a ring with Jimmies team just like Grunden with Dungy’s Bucs

  • @baxatakbaxatak2014
    @baxatakbaxatak2014 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    The low point was Jerry coaching the team himself via Dave Campo. You absolutely KNOW he was.

    • @MazeDaGr8
      @MazeDaGr8 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Mr. 5-11

    • @Mikeymike301
      @Mikeymike301 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Im a Cowboys Fan and everybody knows during Campo, Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett eras Jerry was coach!!!

    • @DaileyShorts
      @DaileyShorts ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The most epic 5-11 season ever lol

    • @baxatakbaxatak2014
      @baxatakbaxatak2014 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Mikeymike301 I dunno about Phillips or Garrett, he may have been meddlesome as all hell, but those coaches made the playoffs at least once or twice. They seemed to have a ton of orders to follow, but they probably told him to get off their asses at some point. Campo was NEVER in charge. Just watch the first Cowboys season of Hard Knocks. Jerry at the head of the table during coaching meetings while Dave takes notes like a secretary.

    • @YankeesFan0620
      @YankeesFan0620 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Those days were dark times. Chad Hutchinson…..

  • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
    @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    As a 49-year-old diehard lifelong Eagles fan, I take no pleasure in saying that the 1992 and 1993 Cowboys were in my opinion, as complete and dominant of any team in my lifetime. They had no holes anywhere. There was no doubt in my mind that they would have won 5+ Super Bowls during the 90s as they were constructed. They were young. They were ridiculously talented. They had a fantastic coaching staff. Most importantly, they were stacked at the two most important position groups in the NFL… offensive line and defensive line. How good was this roster? It was so good that after Jimmy Johnson left, they won a Super Bowl with perhaps the worst head coach (Switzer) that any successful team has ever had. That team was like a ship sailing across the ocean who then had its power cut. Eventually it was going to come to a stop. But because of its built up momentum, it continued to sail for miles before laws of physics brought it to a halt.
    The only pleasure I can take in how great that team was and could have continued to be, is the fact that Jerry Jones’ ego was so ridiculously absurd that he wanted more credit for himself. It burned him up that Jimmy Johnson was getting more credit than him. Anyone who tells you it was a reason other than that is lying. Flat out. Jerry’s punishment is he’s become the modern version of Al Davis-
    A punchline who has never even sniffed ultimate success for 25 years due to his massively unjustified ego resulted in Jimmy Johnson leaving.

    • @Phil-ui4tm
      @Phil-ui4tm ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Interestingly enough, Johnson admitted that Buddy Ryan’s Eagles team gave him more trouble than SB winning Giants and Skins. So he built his roster to specifically attack Eagles more effectively. Such as drafting big Erik Williams to matchup with Reggie White.

    • @jaylucien669
      @jaylucien669 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I take no pleasure in saying an Eagles fan summed this whole thing perfectly.
      But facts are facts.

    • @plutoniumrocket
      @plutoniumrocket ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Great comment. It's worth noting that Jerry Jones loved Al Davis as an owner and took a lot of his style in ownership from him.

    • @Joseff-fz7dr
      @Joseff-fz7dr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In a nutshell! Yes sir! Like u said their line was stacked on both sides of the ball. They won in the trenches and had enough skilled position players to mow over teams, and they had attitude. Barry Switzer who?!?!?😂 Jerry keep playing. His qb1 rn will not reach his full potential as a player.

    • @PuppyFitness
      @PuppyFitness 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Best comment on any NFL related video ive ever read. @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 knows football to say the least. the early 90s cowboys were the Muhammad Ali of football.. unbeatable by most standards by wearing you down over 4 quarters. Talent but not the most talented team but very motivated by their coach and the consequences of failure. Something the post Jerry Boys will never have. Thats the difference in professional sports. As a lifelong cowboys fan since 1988 I am now divorced from a bad relationship with Jerrys cowboys and enjoy watching old eagles games from the late 80s and early 90s. The fued between jimmy and Jerry is a human ego problem much the same way buddy ryan would never bring in a top offensive coordinator to compliment his amazing defenses. The beauty of sports is the parody of the human condition.

  • @edromeandbrossportsandcoll5706
    @edromeandbrossportsandcoll5706 ปีที่แล้ว +1039

    As a Cowboys fan I blame Jerry Jones for our team’s championship drought 😡😡😡

    • @slamdunkgator915
      @slamdunkgator915 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      I am not a cowboys fan and I completely agree with you

    • @Canuck204
      @Canuck204 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      As a raiders fan, I agree. Jerry Jones can’t help himself when the cameras are on him. He’s riding the success of that dynasty from close to 30 years ago til today, yet Dallas hasn’t reached the Super Bowl since.

    • @justinherrera1700
      @justinherrera1700 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      as a cowboys hater i 100% agree

    • @justinsturgess8967
      @justinsturgess8967 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      As a fan of the Cowboys (up here in Canada) i 100000% agree

    • @ArkelChatman45
      @ArkelChatman45 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Knowing the last championship was a year before I was born is so trash … it’s hurts being a cowboys fan ….😢

  • @hulk6785
    @hulk6785 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    More NFL owner beefs. We need one on Al Davis VS Marcus Allen. That's a beef that inspired an urban legend about a black magic curse.

  • @tacosavings9751
    @tacosavings9751 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    They need to make this beef into an HBO series starring Danny McBride as Jimmy and Walton Goggins as Jerry.

    • @alsharpe
      @alsharpe ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This would actually be a great idea. The 90s Cowboys were crazy. So much cocaine and wild antics it would translate well to a HBO miniseries

    • @owenschnitzler9340
      @owenschnitzler9340 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would totally watch that. And I DESPISE the Cowboys.

    • @jharp08
      @jharp08 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So one needs to pitch this like right now

    • @Polo22546
      @Polo22546 ปีที่แล้ว

      🔥🔥🔥

    • @musicandmagic909
      @musicandmagic909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's GOLD

  • @Bukahta
    @Bukahta ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Jerry's ego is still the cowboys Achilles

  • @Toosii2times
    @Toosii2times ปีที่แล้ว +228

    0:29 “Switzer, who coached both men as players at the University of Arkansas”
    Bro that’s wild.. I never knew Barry coached *_both_* Jimmy and Jerry

    • @JoranSkeete
      @JoranSkeete ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I thought it was a mistake and had to look it up straight away

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Damn.... That's wild man!! I had to look it up to make sure it wasn't a joke.. it's damn real! W.T.H?!

    • @Toosii2times
      @Toosii2times ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@JoranSkeete bro same exact.
      I was almost going to leave a comment saying they made a mistake.. but luckily I looked it up first haha
      Found out several interesting things tho:
      1) Jerry and Jimmy are the same age (that doesn’t feel right for some reason)
      2) Barry is older than both by more than 5 years (would’ve guessed he was the same age as Jimmy)
      3) Barry was the RB coach at Arky for 4 years following his playing career as a Razorback. (Besides OU, that was the only CFB job he ever had)
      4) In 1964, with Jimmy and Jerry there as players, the 3 of them were able to win a NC (the only one in Arkys history).
      Shits crazy

    • @harrygomez2789
      @harrygomez2789 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I really thought Jerry was like 5-8 years older than Barry and Jimmy. Turns out Barry is the one who is 5 years older lol. Guess jones just looked older

    • @Toosii2times
      @Toosii2times ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harrygomez2789 right haha

  • @Toosii2times
    @Toosii2times ปีที่แล้ว +257

    There’s not a single soul on this planet that believes Jerry had any part in the success of the Cowboys dynasty. Deep down even Jerry knows it was all Jimmy.

    • @TK0_23_
      @TK0_23_ ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Of course Jerry had a part in it. Just not on the football side. He made them profitable, thereby providing the foundational funding that allowed Jimmy to prosper on the field. You can't have one without the other. The problem was Jerry wanted credit for the football side of things. (Cowboy fan since '66)

    • @zthomas4th
      @zthomas4th ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Who hired Jimmy?

    • @Toosii2times
      @Toosii2times ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@zthomas4th I suppose _any_ is being a little hyperbolic. Jerry did hire Jimmy so that definitely counts for something. But from there it was all Jimmy. Jerry had no part in the initial roster shakeup (including the Walker trade- which he was against) or any draft or personnel moves thereafter.
      So if we’re determining how much each person is responsible for the team’s success, I’d say Jerry-5% Jimmy -95%. Jerry deserves credit for hiring Jimmy, but had he hired anybody else, they wouldn’t have won any super bowls.

    • @Toosii2times
      @Toosii2times ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@TK0_23_ good for him. I’m sure you guys are more profitable than ever right now. With all that money, how successful have you been since this team dissolved? How many super bowls or playoff appearances with Jerry as the GM?

    • @zthomas4th
      @zthomas4th ปีที่แล้ว

      @Slime Season ひ I agree but it's foolish to say Jerry didn't have anything to do with the dynasty

  • @jpthomas9491
    @jpthomas9491 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    My friends, who are in their 20s and 30s, and my stepmom who is on the older side of her 60s all talk about Jerry Jones in identical ways.

  • @QuartzGolem
    @QuartzGolem ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Imagine dooming your team to 30 years of irrelevancy over a beef.

    • @youtubeistryingtocensorme
      @youtubeistryingtocensorme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mediocrity not irrelevancy. There’s a huge difference. Irrelevant means nobody cares whether you exist or not. Mediocre means you just suck at everything. The Cowboys are mediocre. Not irrelevant. Boy are they not irrelevant. They’re talked about across sports media over any other player or team to the point they draw the hate of every non Cowboys fan. They get the most views because there are 2 things NFL fans root for is for their team to win and the Cowboys to lose. Their playoff appearances and losses have provided countless amounts of entertainment for non Cowboys fans to laugh at their and their fans’ expense. The Cowboys are basically the media circus in sports. Hell even their cheerleaders are the hottest and most famous. But as a football team they are the ultimate underachievers, more glazed than a glazed donut. All hype, no show. All talk no work. All style no substance. Not even a conference championship appearance in 30 years. And the only reason that’s a big deal is because Cowboys fans and media make it a big deal.

  • @amazingdestroy
    @amazingdestroy ปีที่แล้ว +231

    If Jones made the cowboys, why can't he make them again?

    • @KWCline91
      @KWCline91 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Answer is: he didn’t make them.

    • @leeclark6272
      @leeclark6272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amazingdestroy Jimmy didn't make cuz why he couldn't do it again

    • @PaulGaither
      @PaulGaither ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@leeclark6272 - you mean all the times he did prior in college? or how he was only given four seasons with Miami, where he had a washed up Dan Marino on the cusp of retirement, yet still drafted Zack Thomas, Sam Madison, Jason Taylor, went to the playoffs in year two, improved to 10-6 and to the divisional round in year three when they added another pro-bowl star Patrick Surtain Sr., and then made the divisional round again in year four?
      He could have drafted even better, sure. He also ran into the Buzz Saw called the Broncos who won back to back Super Bowls and Tom Coughlin's Jaguars (who are forgotten for how great they were) before Coughlin would win two super bowls with the Giants.
      In a 2021 interview, Johnson revealed that the Dolphins could have traded for Peyton Manning in the 1998 NFL draft, theoretically offering the Colts their entire draft board in exchange for the first overall pick. Johnson declined to give more details to this trade, with him stating, "I probably gave you too much already."

    • @richiehunt5097
      @richiehunt5097 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaulGaither college is a different animal compared to the pros as we've seen throughout the years with all of the college coaches that were disasters in the NFL
      You also forget to mention that one of the 'buzzsaws' he lost to by a score of 62-7. Fact is the Dolphins went 39-25 the previous 4 years under Shula and went 36-28 in the 4 years with Jimmy with a final season going 9-7 and losing that 62-7 game.
      Jerry and Jimmy needed each other. Jimmy was a helluva coach, but foolishly thought he could do it all by himself and unless you're Paul Brown coaching 1960's football, it has a horrible track record of failure.
      Jerry thought that it was all about being able to have an 'eye for talent' when it's much more about talent development, led by the head coach's direction and the environment he creates. He also went the opposite direction of teams like the Steelers in terms of personnel strategy when the salary cap was in place by going for trades and FA's instead of building thru the draft and stockpiling talent.
      But together, Jerry and Jimmy made for one of the greatest combinations of GM/HC in the history of the game. Too bad that both of their egos got involved and destroyed it.
      PS, take Jimmy's stories with a grain of salt. They're usually tall tales/revisionist history/wishful thinking that leave out important details and stretch the truth and circumstances to paint himself in a positive light.

    • @sirjer73
      @sirjer73 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@PaulGaitherwell said

  • @RuffRyder_43
    @RuffRyder_43 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Billionaires can’t handle it when their ego takes a hit. Just ask Daniel Snyder.

    • @exposingdemocrats8370
      @exposingdemocrats8370 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean it’s like coming inside someone’s house and the house manager is saying he runs the place when the owner owns the property and pays the staff. Owner is 10000% is the true respect. It’s not like Jimmy Johnson is signing the checks?

    • @sthinakal
      @sthinakal ปีที่แล้ว

      Email

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Snyder is a whole different level of bad CEO in terms of picking inept people to run his org. Jerry as an owner is hands on in his GM approach and to a degree has developed an eye for talent to play for his org. But due to his ego, he's only choosing specific types of coaches to manage/develop the talents he has taken. And those guys probably aren't enough even with more roster holes Jerry has to fill in the last 5 years.

    • @williamstocker584
      @williamstocker584 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Snyder literally destroyed a once proud franchise

  • @coruscant100
    @coruscant100 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    At last, the Beef History video we've all been waiting for is here, and it doesn't disappoint.

    • @MrDariusJWilliams
      @MrDariusJWilliams ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is definitely one of the beef history videos that people have been waiting on, but I wouldn't say it's THE video people have been waiting on. I'm pretty sure people would also like to see Michael Jordan vs. Isiah Thomas.

    • @matictelic
      @matictelic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would love Lillard Vs Westbrook

    • @ericemanwu
      @ericemanwu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Come now. We all know the beef history we've all been waiting for is the 1 hour beef special about Shaq vs Kobe.😅

  • @geoffm1019
    @geoffm1019 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your description of Dallas in the 80's has never been put so eloquently. I love how much it stings, especially living in Dallas all my life.

  • @Will97675
    @Will97675 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Jerry has proven over the last few decades that without Jimmy he can’t win much of anything. He wants complete control over every aspect of the team instead of letting the head coach do his job.

    • @shizzoflex3121
      @shizzoflex3121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m an eagles fan & in Jerry’s defense from 2021-2023 they’ve had some stacked teams defense & offense stacked it’s not Jerry fault the big time players ain’t showing up in the bright lights

  • @Outlaw8908
    @Outlaw8908 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    As a Cowboys fan all my life and got to see what Jerry has done in the last almost 3 decades since the last Super Bowl. He did not do it alone, and this was his biggest mistake. His pride and ego.

  • @yours8295
    @yours8295 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Cowboys fans know this is true. I just talked about this with a friend the other day. Jerry thinks he put those teams together. But he was just writing the checks. And the team has been in this void since the 90s because Jerry won't step aside.
    I worry that his son will be the same way and that there's no real hope until Jerry's grandson takes over 30 years from now.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YOu will just know if Jerry's sons treat the process of acquiring the right HC/staff with respect or with disdain. Tepper may have been clowned on getting hoodwinked by Matt Rhule for 2 years (and extra money). But he bounces back and not only settles on Frank Reich whose a good HC by himself, but helps assemble a strong staff around including a young overachiever for a DC in Ejiro Evero who got great results scheming up a Broncos defense full of strong talent on secondary.

    • @youtubeistryingtocensorme
      @youtubeistryingtocensorme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@t4d0WHi. I’m from the future to tell you that David Tepper’s Carolina Panthers are now 2-15.

    • @josephmelendez8370
      @josephmelendez8370 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly his son saved the franchise from drafting Manziel like Jerry wanted to, he would still be a step up.

  • @hjluke4807
    @hjluke4807 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yes. The beef we’d all been waiting for.

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A well aged, spicy Texas brisket.

  • @MazeDaGr8
    @MazeDaGr8 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I think it's safe to say that if Jimmie Johnson had stayed with The Cowboys they would have won at least 2 more championships. Hell, I believe they probably would've 3-peated in '94

    • @gregorylagrange
      @gregorylagrange ปีที่แล้ว

      Neil O'Donnell guaranteed him at least one more.

    • @krazie835
      @krazie835 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.

    • @afrolore7462
      @afrolore7462 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@krazie835 yes

    • @Riles3152
      @Riles3152 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Man that 94 San Fran squad might have been the 2nd best team to win the SB in the 90's, after either the 92 or 93 Cowboys. 49ers adding Deion was an absolute game changer, on top having MVP Steve Young, Jerry Rice still in his prime, the underrated Ricky Waters and a number of star quality players on that defense. Even with Jimmy, I don't think the 9ers were gonna be denied that year.

    • @AM-tu1rc
      @AM-tu1rc ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jimmie Johnson is 7 time NASCAR champion

  • @lastsinnersa8002
    @lastsinnersa8002 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    They needed each other to achieve this, all vaulted by the Herschel Walker trade. But when one can't handle the other getting credit and the other isn't one to stay with the same team for a very long time, a playoff drought ensues. Also, good to hear from Steven Godfrey again.

    • @holstorrsceadus1990
      @holstorrsceadus1990 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Jimmy didn't need Jerry. He was already a national champion without him. The only upside Jerry might have had over other owners was his ability to stay out of the way and he couldn't even keep that up for long.

    • @Coolquip43
      @Coolquip43 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Jimmy needed Jerry about as much as any other great GM or coach needs an owner: to sign the checks lol

    • @lastsinnersa8002
      @lastsinnersa8002 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@holstorrsceadus1990 At least he was willing to sign the checks and gave Johnson some freedom for a few years. Culverhouse, Synder, McNair, Tepper - for as much of a circus as Jones has been post 1995, at least he actually made the most of the most fortunate trade ever. An owner like them would have wasted all of this in an instant - just like the Ricky Williams trade.

    • @lastsinnersa8002
      @lastsinnersa8002 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Coolquip43 At least he was willing to sign the checks and gave Johnson some freedom for a few years. Culverhouse, Synder, McNair, Tepper - for as much of a circus as Jones has been post 1995, at least he actually made the most of the most fortunate trade ever. An owner like them would have wasted all of this in an instant - just like the Ricky Williams trade.

  • @homunculusSZN
    @homunculusSZN ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Jimmy Johnson was such a great coach at Miami University.

    • @eliowen5759
      @eliowen5759 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      University of Miami (FL)

    • @ceebee312
      @ceebee312 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      One of the rare exceptions where a college coach succeeded in the pros

    • @sirjer73
      @sirjer73 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Canes fan here he should ve 3 titles in a row. Testervede throwing 5 picks at the 87 Fiesta Bowl and we got hosed at Notre Dame in 88.

    • @michaelleroy9281
      @michaelleroy9281 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Miami University is in Oxford, OH

  • @SmoothCriminal12
    @SmoothCriminal12 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    You guys should do one on Ichiro vs Mike Hargrove. I'm surprised it never came up on the Bois documentary but it was reported that the two never got along. And remember when Mike abruptly quit? Well right after that, Ichiro reupped with a new extension, that cant be a coincidence in my opinion.

    • @BigBlack81
      @BigBlack81 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would watch this and I'm not intimately a fan of either player. THIS would be a fine video.

  • @darrendent8288
    @darrendent8288 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a Panthers fan living in Dallas now I see why Cowboys fans hate Jerry 😂

  • @jonnash170
    @jonnash170 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It crushed me then and i still get emotional about what could have been. Those days i was living in Texas and it was great. ❤️

  • @mrhoneycutter
    @mrhoneycutter ปีที่แล้ว +10

    While Jimmy Johnson will always be considered an NFL great, its really a shame we didn’t get to see what he could’ve done at the Cowboys. This could’ve been a Patriots level dynasty back in the day, and it’s a damn shame it never came to fruition.

  • @bennisford1712
    @bennisford1712 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Once he puts Jimmy in the Ring of Honor... us Cowboys fans can rejoice again!!!

  • @real_blackmamba8665
    @real_blackmamba8665 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dallas hasn’t been the same since Jimmy

  • @shakarussanders9911
    @shakarussanders9911 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was a sophomore in High school when this happened i was in shop class and one of the school coaches walked in and said Jimmy's gone. At the time i didn't realize how much of a impact losing Jimmy was! Barry got us a Superbowl but no Cowboys fan would have thought that it would have been our last victorious Superbowl! I just knew we could have won one more in the 90s!

  • @Los150
    @Los150 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Definitely been waiting on this beef! I hope y’all still do MJ vs Isaiah Thomas, especially since that beef will never die apparently lol

  • @MrWoodMan23
    @MrWoodMan23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can't be the only one, when I say. These beef episodes are just not long enough.

  • @cary737
    @cary737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What’s so underrated on Jimmy’s talent as a coach, is his ability as a GM/ talent evaluator. Not only did his personnel decisions stack the Cowboys in the 90s for 3 Super Bowls, ( Switzer won the 3rd with the team Jimmy assembled); but he practically did the same as far as building the Dolphins. When Jimmy got to Miami things were different and the Dolphins were keeping an old roster together to win a Championship for Marino, ( which never happened). However he continued to draft well. Only at this point his heart wasn’t in it anymore. Still, once Jerry left after the 99 season, the Dolphins had 2 more Playoff teams and 4 consecutive winning seasons with Dave Wannstead as coach! Jimmy’s also helped other coaches, ( mainly Bill Bellichick in his early days in New England), with drafting players.
    Meanwhile, Jerry has only hired one strong willed coach in Bill Parcels who got him Tony Romo and the 13-3 season Wade Phillips had the year after Parcells left. Jerry gets an A+ as a business man in raising the Cowboys brand, but he fails as a GM!

  • @dionruffin3996
    @dionruffin3996 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Grumpy Old Men Football Edition 🏈

  • @eddieredmann3
    @eddieredmann3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The thing is: Jerry indisputably has an eye for talent. The Cowboys teams since 1996 have had more than plenty of star-studded rosters. The problem is, I think, that Jerry has created such a toxic atmosphere for coaches that very few would ever go there. It's why he's had such a long line of clapmasters since Jimmy Johnson.

    • @kylemurray3526
      @kylemurray3526 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      But that’s the thing, though. He really didn’t. He just wanted to make it seem like he did.
      In Goodman’s “Boys Will Be Boys” about the era, there’s a part of it that covers the post-Johnson era where Jerry really did make draft picks.
      They were horrendous. Not a single one of them ever made an impact. His eye for talent is atrocious.

    • @Mr4one6
      @Mr4one6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Eye for talent?? What am I missing here

    • @mingywantwingy1379
      @mingywantwingy1379 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jerry has no eye for talent 😂😂😂

    • @rumble4114
      @rumble4114 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Jones loves name value is what you mean. He loves the flashy acquisition without really knowing how it will fit together. Johnson understood the larger puzzle; Jones just thinks if you buy the flashiest pieces it will work itself out. Which is why Johnson's Cowboys teams were very, very hard outs in the playoffs, and some years impossible. But Jones' teams FEEL like playoff underachievers but simply aren't true contenders.

    • @gregorylagrange
      @gregorylagrange ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rumble4114 Great example is the hershcel walker trade. Despite leading the league in rushing one year, and despite the reputation gained in college, Herschel does not change direction well.
      Johnson is the only one so far that openly stated that. Big, strong, and fast, but he said he wasn't nifty on his feet.
      Granted Jimmy didn't do much with the Dolphins. But the eye is definitely not with Jerry.

  • @mjwatts1983
    @mjwatts1983 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    19 Nov 2023: During the NFL on Fox pregame show, Jimmy Johnson is in Charlotte for DAL-CAR
    With him is Cowboys Owner-GM Jerry Jones who announces that Jimmy Johnson will enter the Cowboys ROH on 30 Dec during the Cowboys home game against the Lions

  • @nacoran
    @nacoran ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jerry Jones in Dallas is very similar to George Steinbrenner's era in NY, but without a salary cap George was able to have some success, but overall he tanked the team. They weren't successful until he got suspended by MLB. To his credit, when he saw that getting out of the way would let the Yankees thrive he did mostly stay out of the way after it.

  • @apolloforabetterfuture4814
    @apolloforabetterfuture4814 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cowboys with Johnson: completely dominant
    Cowboys without Johnson: a complete disaster of unproductivity for decades.
    Yeah we all know who was responsible for their success.

  • @Evs78101
    @Evs78101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you! Long awaited!

  • @Jame5man
    @Jame5man ปีที่แล้ว +33

    These needed each other, or at least someone who was willing to challenge them, in order to find success.
    Johnson never won as much away from Dallas. Jerry never won with a team that Johnson didn’t help build
    Both of them failed to realize that they were both responsible for the Cowboys success. Not just one of them

    • @revuproar5636
      @revuproar5636 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Johnson won at the U. And won big.

    • @StuartScott-ng4ir
      @StuartScott-ng4ir ปีที่แล้ว

      Jimmy got picks from Harshel Walker trade and hit big. Dan Marino Sucked the dolphin life out of Jimmy.

    • @MrMarclax
      @MrMarclax ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jerry just signed the checks. That's it.

    • @MrGuanYu1
      @MrGuanYu1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean he actually had a better win % after he left Dallas. 44-36 with Dallas (55%) and 36-28 with Miami (56.3%). Also it's not like he coached for another 10 years after he left Dallas, only 4 more so the "never won as much away from Dallas" is incorrect if you mean after he left. As Rev pointed out he was 81-34 with the 'Canes so he most definitely won more away from Dallas.

    • @SilverBullet22250
      @SilverBullet22250 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People don't realize(and can look it up) that Johnson went to the playoffs 3 of the 4 seasons he was at Miami, something they haven't done since his departure and something Dallas hasn't done since either Switzer left.

  • @nvrules27
    @nvrules27 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This story would make such a good movie

  • @jasmithactor
    @jasmithactor ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Michael Jordan & Isaiah Thomas has to be around the corner correct? 🔥🔥🔥🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @errolsessoms3453
    @errolsessoms3453 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your show keep up the good work

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The Dallas Cowboys, where Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith played an active part, were a powerhouse team representing the NFL in the 1990s.
    The Bills vs. Cowboys games in Super Bowl XXVII and Super Bowl XXVIII were fun to watch.

    • @insanusmaximus2857
      @insanusmaximus2857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XXVII was an ass-kicking for the ages, while XXVIII was just a case of the Cowboys grinding the Bills into dust in the second half. What a great team that was.

    • @jsum33
      @jsum33 ปีที่แล้ว

      @insanusmaximus2857 27 turned out that way but for the first 20 minutes or so it sure didn't look or feel like it. It didn't take long for the wheels to fall off though lol

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fun for the cowboys maybe. Jim Kelly probably knew they were the clear absolute under dogs.

  • @kcudi0595
    @kcudi0595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please keep the beef videos coming. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾. There is so much beef in the sports realm we could make a hamburger stand.

  • @matthewforbes2969
    @matthewforbes2969 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rewinder: Christian laettner’s shot
    Rewinder: SEND IT IN JEROME
    rewinder: the miracle of Istanbul
    Rewinder: game 7 of the 1994 Stanley Cup final
    Rewinder: 2010 World Cup final
    Rewinder: 2022 World Cup final
    Rewinder: 1999 Champions league final
    Beef history: Isiah Thomas vs Michael Jordan
    Beef history: George Steinbrenner vs Billy Martin
    Beef history: George Steinbrenner vs Dave Winfield
    Collapse: how the Montreal Canadiens failed to reach sniffing distance of lord Stanley for 28 years
    Collapse: how the Buffalo Bills failure to win one of 4 straight super bowls led to two decades of failure
    Collapse: how the Vancouver Canucks went from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst
    Collapse: how the fo fi fo sixers went from playoff domination to failure
    Collapse: how the big 3 Atlanta braves went from consistent World Series favorites to bottom of the pit
    Untitled: Marcel Dionne
    Untitled: Ted Williams
    Untitled: Terrell owens
    Untitled: Don Nelson as a coach
    Untitled: Johan Cruyff in the World Cup
    Untitled: Cristiano Ronaldo in the World Cup

  • @just_gut
    @just_gut ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really liked how the video ended. It is the perfect encapsulation of both men.

  • @Jsawyer400m
    @Jsawyer400m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Here after the ring of honor

  • @logantv22
    @logantv22 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Based on how it’s gone since, I’m willing to say Johnson was more responsible for the success

  • @andu1854
    @andu1854 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jerry Jones ego was the main reason for them being in a 30 year title drought

  • @kapowjam3462
    @kapowjam3462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely have been waiting for this beef, enough 90s cowboys videos on secret base to make a movie about it.

  • @benjaminbrown5143
    @benjaminbrown5143 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these!!!! Please keep em coming

  • @michaelreich4827
    @michaelreich4827 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I truly believe that if Jimmy hadn't left, the 90s Cowboys would've won 5 Super Bowls in a row before fading.

    • @fernandomoras9160
      @fernandomoras9160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly yes, they almost beat the 9ers even with Switzer, and in 1996 they definitely go better than 10-6, and most likely beat favre who always struggled against them.

  • @rayodfilms
    @rayodfilms ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We need a Sherman-Revis Beef History🤝

  • @tannerd471
    @tannerd471 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Who else is thinking of this during the cowboys ring of honor ceremony?

  • @zeeski7454
    @zeeski7454 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a giants fan I thank the lord for Jerry Jones' ego

  • @MetalGod999
    @MetalGod999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here are a couple of points I wanna make about this Jerry Jones vs. Jimmy Johnson beef:
    1: I believe if Jerry & Jimmy had put their Texas-size egos aside and actually worked together as one, the Dallas Cowboys would’ve won more than 3 Super Bowls in the ‘90s. Maybe even 4 or 5. The Cowboys had all the talent and a perfect core of Hall-of-Famers intact. 5 Super Bowl titles was not out of the question.
    2: Some of the Cowboys players didn’t respect Barry Switzer as a head coach…including Troy Aikman. Troy loved that Jimmy Johnson coached him hard, but still treated him like a man, with love, appreciation and respect. Troy also complained that Switzer ran the Cowboys too softly, like a country club. And no, that’s not a complement.

  • @ryanh2606
    @ryanh2606 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No one hates Jerry Jones more than Cowboys fans

  • @avacadomangobanana2588
    @avacadomangobanana2588 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jimmy won those championships. Proof being that Jerry hasn’t won one without him in 3 decades of trying

    • @avacadomangobanana2588
      @avacadomangobanana2588 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m not counting the one with Barry Switzer who coached Jimmy’s team

  • @rolmodel12.
    @rolmodel12. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol, loved the southern twang creepin' in there, with every Jones quote. Good stuff!

  • @terryaltherr2481
    @terryaltherr2481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a Texas-sized Beef, I was hoping this video could be longer but I will say that it was nicely done and covered all the major areas of the beef. Granted, it definitely seems like the beef was rather hyped by the media but it's anything but pink slime. Great work Secret Base as always!

  • @MrBird2007
    @MrBird2007 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A beef history video that's long overdue

  • @rc....
    @rc.... ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @neilhaas4198
    @neilhaas4198 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Cowboys will not win another Super Bowl until Jerry is gone and they have a new owner and GM. there’s a reason for their mediocre playoff success and no SB’s the last 25+ years, and there’s only 1 dude that’s been a constant the whole time

  • @sil-80nick
    @sil-80nick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jimmy Johnson created the draft pick trade value spreadsheet that NFL teams still use in 2023.
    If anyone questions who built the talent of that team, look right there for who ran the team drafts.

  • @carcosa_swamp
    @carcosa_swamp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a classic beef. Would love to see a future video covering the beef between Chael Sonnen and the country of Brazil!

  • @MichaelPressler970
    @MichaelPressler970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THIS!!! Is the beef I've been waiting for

  • @cybercrasherstv
    @cybercrasherstv ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can't wait for this April Fools video, Secret Base Nation / Jon Bois and the funky bunch

  • @TeezyHadaBaby
    @TeezyHadaBaby ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THIS is why we continue to be mediocre til this very day. Jerry STILL wants to show he can win HIS way we haven't had a coach with his own mind since Jimmy, not even Parcels.

  • @ChristineCAlb1
    @ChristineCAlb1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like the classic “you can’t live with ‘em, you can’t live without ‘em” situation.

  • @chuckchambers9565
    @chuckchambers9565 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I will always remember Jerry for destroying what could have been.

  • @MandisaOfficial
    @MandisaOfficial 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who else is here after the Lions vs. Cowboys halftime where Jimmy was finally inducted into the Cowboys Ring of Honor?

  • @RRR-ox9ud
    @RRR-ox9ud ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Jerry had anything to do with the team building... he would have rebuilt the team by now.

  • @jacobwatson1406
    @jacobwatson1406 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is gonna get a ton of views 💯

  • @yurielcundangan9090
    @yurielcundangan9090 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Biggest brand the cowboys never dissapoints

  • @jamest681
    @jamest681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Their initial arrangement answers the question. Jimmy was the sole caretaker of the football and Jerry took care of the business side. Since Jimmy was the sole decision maker of anything football, Jimmy was solely responsible for the roster and the success of the team. Jerry was solely responsible for paying the players that Jimmy chose, so he gets the credit for writing the checks. Trading Herschel Walker was so outside of the box, I can't believe Jones had anything to do with it. I totally believe Jimmy when he says Jones was against it.

  • @DoctorEw220
    @DoctorEw220 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you did this one, I think you need to do Terry Bradshaw and Chuck Knoll.

  • @patrickbateman161
    @patrickbateman161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video.

  • @poindextertunes
    @poindextertunes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ruffle Jimmy’s hair he loves that and Jerry loves French handshakes 😂

  • @OpticZodiac15
    @OpticZodiac15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This should be another fire episode ! Lmao

  • @EdmacZ
    @EdmacZ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two powerful men who came together to create something great just want some credit.

  • @westcoasthype619
    @westcoasthype619 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We haven’t been to a nfc championship game since I was in third grade. Next month will be 18 years since i graduated high school

  • @fritogranito
    @fritogranito 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cowboys won exactly 1 more title, the next year with that team. 30 years later? 0 more.

  • @LeroyMcCree
    @LeroyMcCree ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Growing up as a cowboys fan, witnessing the 3 championships of the 90’s I’ll always be grateful that I got to witness it. Jimmy and Jerry are like two brothers who refuse to allow the other to be “one up”. This feud will probably last until their final breath, but it’s entertaining to say the least lol

  • @MannyMensah94
    @MannyMensah94 ปีที่แล้ว

    About damn time

  • @edmundgil6008
    @edmundgil6008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was amazing! So we’ll done. And I’m not even a Cowboys fan! 💙❤️🙏🏽‼️

  • @billfreedom4313
    @billfreedom4313 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was a good one

  • @michiganrulez1
    @michiganrulez1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nearly 30 years later and they still haven’t sniffed the Super Bowl

  • @jmcook96
    @jmcook96 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    can y'all do a collapse vid on the LA/Anaheim Angels of the mid 2000s. won a chip in 02 and made a couple of deep postseason runs during the decade. were very underrated for the time.

  • @yurielcundangan9090
    @yurielcundangan9090 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    never dissapoints

  • @jonathancarlson6127
    @jonathancarlson6127 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This needs a miniseries.

  • @michaell874
    @michaell874 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jimmy Johnson gets the credit and the only credit to Jerry Jones was bringing Jimmy Johnson in. Jimmy created a dynasty and Jerry destroyed it and has not even had the Cowboys play in a championship game since, which is almost 30 years now.

  • @Alias_Fakename
    @Alias_Fakename ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doesn't matter the field, upper management always wants credit they never deserve.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Imagine if one of them tried to let bygones be bygones on April Fools day just to say "sike, you thought" and have someone prank the other from behind with ice bucket

  • @superdopenova6231
    @superdopenova6231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a simple man, I see beef I click

  • @youraverageguy7842
    @youraverageguy7842 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last line of I hate you and I hate you too sounded like something from South Park lol

  • @jessewheinrichs
    @jessewheinrichs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just another reason that Jerry Jones' Cowboys will probably be losers until they are no longer Jerry Jones' Cowboys

  • @KingKenzo215
    @KingKenzo215 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As an Eagles fan, I hope Jerry lives forever. I am ready to give him 10 years of my life 😂

    • @ThePorshaEdmun
      @ThePorshaEdmun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This funny af 😂😂😂😂

  • @drakevick1646
    @drakevick1646 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At this point, anybody who genuinely believes that Jerry was more responsible for the Cowboys success than Jimmy is a damn fool