The Vulcan line are Chinese knock offs. Vulcan reverse engineered to save money rather than engineered. The difference comes in the lens itself. The quality of the optics are the biggest difference.
Great video, I have a Miller, Jackson, and the new HF Vulcan, the Vulcan blows away the other two by a lot, I like that it does not have the yellow tint when welding, the bluish tint is much crisper. I almost bought the Lincoln 3350 since it has many top reviews by real users but for $125 you can not beat the HF Vulcan! I will be the first one to tell you if the Vulcan is a piece of crap but so far so good!
Thanks for sharing that brother. I don't own the vulcan but i have heard great things about it and if i was in the market again then i would definitely choose the vulcan over the Viking for half the price lol. I really appreciate you watching and commenting it means a lot.
Man, I bought the Vulcan a while back and I am shocked that HF did it this well. It keeps up with Lincoln or Miller imo. Now - ask me how my HD grinders compare to my DeWalt and Makita and I'll tell you they are clearly inferior - BUT not this helmet - I think the Vulcan helmet is a steal !! I paid $120 for the Vulcan with coupon ( Google "Vulcan" coupons to get the 20% off coupon)
You're comparing the Vulcan to the Viking 3350, which is why the viewing area is much larger on the 3350. If you compare the Vulcan to the Viking 2450, they'll have nearly identical viewing areas.
Been running the vulcan for a couple of months now. Been flashed a few times bc the lack of arc sensitivity. But I do work in a production shop. It's used 50 hours a week at least. That said, I'm buying a 3350 before Christmas as a gift to myself. Vulcan will work great for hobbyists and occasional use but if you're full time, I'd go with the Lincoln.
I’m in school with a Vulcan hood and get flashed unless I’m right at the instructors side during demos. Buying a 2450 adv. kind of good knowing you could hide your expensive lens in a Vulcan hood if it wasn’t for the external grind button I’d probably just buy a lens module and put in my current hood.
I just bought the Vulcan arc-safe with I believe a 10.1 viewing area. I used the one we had at the shop. Do not know the other brand but this one is bad ass. I can actually see my line to weld and not just my pool.
That's some good sleuthing work. I'm glad I found this video. I need to buy a quality helmet and I was stuck on getting a Lincoln but now I know the Vulcans are cheaper and just as good and pretty much the same👍👍
I must've got a bad vulcan hood but when I use it for mig, it works just fine, but when I tig, the sensors start to malfunction and my lens will flash. Sometimes the lens will darken and just stay dark for like 30 minutes before it goes back to normal
The filter lens is where the money is at. Different quality/technology filter lens. Knock offs look the same and feel the same sometimes, doesn't mean they are the same.
Where the real extra cost goes in the lincoln is more than likely the quality lense,technology inside,warranty, and research and development.The plastic shell and headband are more likely made by a separate company that has the tooling to make plastic injection molding
I’ve been using the Vulcan for 4 four months now, 9 hours per day an it’s flawless where using it is concern. It’s very comfortable, light weight and has a nice viewing area. I’m planning an buying the Lincoln Viking 3350 4C helmet as it has a bigger display and a more refine quality compared to the Vulcan helmet. The 4C technology is top notch.
i bought the Vulcan 6 weeks ago and barely used it in a clean non-sweaty environment every day and it flashed me.......going back monday......ill have to say though the view was the best i ever saw......i guess ill be buying me a lincoln for 100 bucks more
Just so your aware I weld everyday all day and fabricate I have gotten flash burn many times with the Lincoln 3350 Viking it just got smashed so I’m now trying the Vulcan so I will know for sure depending on clarity and how many times I get flash burn to really tell which one is better
Thanks for sharing, but the most important part of comparing the two welding helmets for me is how the two helmets function. How do the puddles look when using the 2 helmets. I want to know what is the difference between seeing the puddles as you proceed. I am not as concerned if the helmets look exactly alike structually. The question is, what is the functional difference of the quality in what you’re seeing as one welds.
I personally own the Vulcan, been a good helmet, and it got me through Welding School... Coincidentally, I literally just yesterday, I ordered the Viking. Glad to find out that the lenses swap out, and Will definitely update on how they compare. I atleast learned something today.
Are made by the same company and rebranded three's company I'm drawing a blank right now name of the company that makes those helmets but they are made by one company and branded for Vulcan and Lincoln electric
Most welding helmets have parts made in Asia, different companies buy different components and assemble them in USA/ UK etc. Go on Aliexpress for any replacement part. Same with smartphones, those cameras are made by Samsung or some Asian company. Very few parts are inhouse. Even apple share same screens and tech. just different combos of tech.
Almost the same but the clarity specs are the same? No. Lincoln 1/1/1/1. Harbor Freight 1/1/1/2. One is a Toyota Yaris, the other is a Lexus. Does HF has the same customer support as Lincoln? I dont know. I know Lincoln has excellent customer support. I'll stay with my Lincoln Viking
The differences between them could be (except for viewing area) just a few years difference in time of production . I would have to go with the Lincoln because of the viewing area with my glasses . I have the Lincoln that I bought when they were $350.
I agree the viewing area is quite a bit bigger in the lincoln. Im going to check out the difference in the quality of viewer too because I know the lincoln quality is really good.
I’ve come back to say it is probably not the same helmet or at least not the same insert as the Lincoln Electric. I say this because I can’t TIG weld with my Vulcan helmet, it doesn’t pick up the low arc of the TIG like it does for everything else and I get flash blinded ever few seconds even with a brand new battery. So for now I’m forced to flux, MIG and Stick weld everything 😢. Saving up for a real good hood that doesn’t blind me.
here you go. lincoln viking is a 1/1/1/1 rating. the vulcan has a 1/1/1/2 rating. so lincoln has a higher angle dependence of luminous transmittance class than the vulcan. Not a huge deal but i would trust lincoln more so than vulcan. hope this helps
HF Vs Lincoln 90 day warranty 3 year warranty Smaller view Larger view No helmet bag Comes with bag Less lens cover More lens covers No bandanna Bandanna
I have one of the cheapest Harbor Freight helmets ever made it's about ten or more years old. Still does the job and on the same batteries that came in it. Yes, I would buy another one from Harbor Freight without any other thought about it.
They are probably similar because they are on the same level of build. That's why they have the same stamp. Just because the Mazda b4000 truck looks exactly like the ford ranger, doesn't make it a ford ranger.
wtf... he is not yelling, Ms. Daisy he just has a loud voice. if you think hes yelling you probably don't want to be around a fab shop or around welders.
I have had the Vulcan since 2019, loved everything about it! My instructor in my welding course told me i could not use the Vulcan in class, it has 0 UV protection, apparantly HF cheapest out on the coating, hence the lower price!...talked to harbor freight and they are giving me store credit! I'm going to order a higher end unit, miller, Lincoln, etc...but i would not recommend the Vulcan to anyone!
If walks like a duck quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it's a duck in my opinion they're the same just minor difference to avoid someone complaining
Your opinion is most likely incorrect. They are not the same when they are different. You said they were the same and slightly different in the same breath. Vulcan is a value helmet and works well but Lincoln's are rated a bit higher in quality. I bought a Vulcan because it is a quality helmet at a fraction of the cost of a Lincoln. Professionals will buy Lincoln over the Vulcan.
You may be able to buy the Vulcan for $100 less, but you will wind up using the Lincoln cartridge. The clarity (4C), color, etc, makes all the difference. You won’t be going back, besides it’s a bigger window!
until your Lincoln 3350 takes a crap just out of warranty....Then you start thinking about China reputation for quality and decide to buy an Optrel like I have! I'll take Swiss over China any day!
Honestly both have that beautiful blue tint to them that reduces headaches at work and they have the exact same replacement parts ... I like both of them
The author of this superb video is not yelling, but simply enthusiastic about the vulcan helmet. If the volume is to high for you, I suggest you plug your ears just as you would while operating a chainsaw!!
Definitely yelling. Some people just do that. You guys ever watch DIY Auto School or My Friend Pete (same guy...2 channels). That guy yells and screams lol! He's like an angry comic. It's pretty entertaining, but he really embraces it. Check it out.
Is it the same Hood or not? What do you think?
Headgear and lenses are interchangeable and have damn near the same specs ... They are made out of the same materials
The Vulcan line are Chinese knock offs. Vulcan reverse engineered to save money rather than engineered. The difference comes in the lens itself. The quality of the optics are the biggest difference.
It's not exactly the same but you will not be dissapointed! Nice hood for the money!
It's not a knock off the lens board inside the vulcan is the same as the Lincoln
I'm amazing at how well the Vulcan works when I use it still impresses me
The difference has to be in the quality of the lens. Do a arc view comparison so we can see the difference in the lens. 👍
Great video, I have a Miller, Jackson, and the new HF Vulcan, the Vulcan blows away the other two by a lot, I like that it does not have the yellow tint when welding, the bluish tint is much crisper. I almost bought the Lincoln 3350 since it has many top reviews by real users but for $125 you can not beat the HF Vulcan! I will be the first one to tell you if the Vulcan is a piece of crap but so far so good!
Thanks for sharing that brother. I don't own the vulcan but i have heard great things about it and if i was in the market again then i would definitely choose the vulcan over the Viking for half the price lol. I really appreciate you watching and commenting it means a lot.
Man, I bought the Vulcan a while back and I am shocked that HF did it this well. It keeps up with Lincoln or Miller imo. Now - ask me how my HD grinders compare to my DeWalt and Makita and I'll tell you they are clearly inferior - BUT not this helmet - I think the Vulcan helmet is a steal !! I paid $120 for the Vulcan with coupon ( Google "Vulcan" coupons to get the 20% off coupon)
Is it still holding up?
@@Jursaw It is, this hood is really nice for the price and still is working great!
You're comparing the Vulcan to the Viking 3350, which is why the viewing area is much larger on the 3350. If you compare the Vulcan to the Viking 2450, they'll have nearly identical viewing areas.
Was getting ready to buy the 3550 but chose the Vulcan after watching your video. Couldn’t be happier. At $129, The Vulcan Pro is a great buy.
The vulcan is excellent and i been using for 1 year. Its the best helmet i have ever experience. Its view is simply unbelievable amazing
Lincoln charges more for their name.
Been running the vulcan for a couple of months now. Been flashed a few times bc the lack of arc sensitivity. But I do work in a production shop. It's used 50 hours a week at least. That said, I'm buying a 3350 before Christmas as a gift to myself. Vulcan will work great for hobbyists and occasional use but if you're full time, I'd go with the Lincoln.
I’m in school with a Vulcan hood and get flashed unless I’m right at the instructors side during demos. Buying a 2450 adv. kind of good knowing you could hide your expensive lens in a Vulcan hood if it wasn’t for the external grind button I’d probably just buy a lens module and put in my current hood.
I just bought the Vulcan arc-safe with I believe a 10.1 viewing area. I used the one we had at the shop. Do not know the other brand but this one is bad ass. I can actually see my line to weld and not just my pool.
I think the Vulcan is a re branded Lincoln just has the smaller lense
That's some good sleuthing work. I'm glad I found this video. I need to buy a quality helmet and I was stuck on getting a Lincoln but now I know the Vulcans are cheaper and just as good and pretty much the same👍👍
I own a Vulcan it works great, I use it everyday at work
I must've got a bad vulcan hood but when I use it for mig, it works just fine, but when I tig, the sensors start to malfunction and my lens will flash. Sometimes the lens will darken and just stay dark for like 30 minutes before it goes back to normal
Happened to me too idk if you figured it out but all i did was turn the sensitivity up and it fixed the problem.
thanks for the review, ill be purchasing the vulcan.
I have a save phase and the vulcan, I use the miller version at work and so far the vulcan seems to be the one I grab
Have had Vulcan about 6 months. Could not be more pleased with it...
The filter lens is where the money is at. Different quality/technology filter lens. Knock offs look the same and feel the same sometimes, doesn't mean they are the same.
You could literally put the Lincoln lens in the Vulcan
They look pretty much the same. I wish I would have known that before spending the extra cash on the Lincoln. Good video. Much appreciated.
Where the real extra cost goes in the lincoln is more than likely the quality lense,technology inside,warranty, and research and development.The plastic shell and headband are more likely made by a separate company that has the tooling to make plastic injection molding
Wow you just saved me hundreds of dollars!
Thank you!
I’ve been using the Vulcan for 4 four months now, 9 hours per day an it’s flawless where using it is concern. It’s very comfortable, light weight and has a nice viewing area. I’m planning an buying the Lincoln Viking 3350 4C helmet as it has a bigger display and a more refine quality compared to the Vulcan helmet. The 4C technology is top notch.
You won't be able to wear respirator. Stick with the2450
i bought the Vulcan 6 weeks ago and barely used it in a clean non-sweaty environment every day and it flashed me.......going back monday......ill have to say though the view was the best i ever saw......i guess ill be buying me a lincoln for 100 bucks more
Just so your aware I weld everyday all day and fabricate I have gotten flash burn many times with the Lincoln 3350 Viking it just got smashed so I’m now trying the Vulcan so I will know for sure depending on clarity and how many times I get flash burn to really tell which one is better
Thanks for sharing, but the most important part of comparing the two welding helmets for me is how the two helmets function. How do the puddles look when using the 2 helmets. I want to know what is the difference between seeing the puddles as you proceed. I am not as concerned if the helmets look exactly alike structually. The question is, what is the functional difference of the quality in what you’re seeing as one welds.
I personally own the Vulcan, been a good helmet, and it got me through Welding School... Coincidentally, I literally just yesterday, I ordered the Viking. Glad to find out that the lenses swap out, and Will definitely update on how they compare. I atleast learned something today.
Did u notice a different in the lens? I seen people use the Lincoln and looks more clear
Are made by the same company and rebranded three's company I'm drawing a blank right now name of the company that makes those helmets but they are made by one company and branded for Vulcan and Lincoln electric
Most welding helmets have parts made in Asia, different companies buy different components and assemble them in USA/ UK etc. Go on Aliexpress for any replacement part. Same with smartphones, those cameras are made by Samsung or some Asian company. Very few parts are inhouse. Even apple share same screens and tech. just different combos of tech.
Almost the same but the clarity specs are the same? No. Lincoln 1/1/1/1. Harbor Freight 1/1/1/2. One is a Toyota Yaris, the other is a Lexus. Does HF has the same customer support as Lincoln? I dont know. I know Lincoln has excellent customer support. I'll stay with my Lincoln Viking
Lincoln $250 Vulcan $149. Im sold on the Vulcan!
The differences between them could be (except for viewing area) just a few years difference in time of production . I would have to go with the Lincoln because of the viewing area with my glasses . I have the Lincoln that I bought when they were $350.
I agree the viewing area is quite a bit bigger in the lincoln. Im going to check out the difference in the quality of viewer too because I know the lincoln quality is really good.
I’ve come back to say it is probably not the same helmet or at least not the same insert as the Lincoln Electric. I say this because I can’t TIG weld with my Vulcan helmet, it doesn’t pick up the low arc of the TIG like it does for everything else and I get flash blinded ever few seconds even with a brand new battery. So for now I’m forced to flux, MIG and Stick weld everything 😢. Saving up for a real good hood that doesn’t blind me.
Ive been welding for over 25 years and made reviews for the best.
What about the clearity? What is the clearity rating for each?
here you go. lincoln viking is a 1/1/1/1 rating. the vulcan has a 1/1/1/2 rating. so lincoln has a higher angle dependence of luminous transmittance class than the vulcan. Not a huge deal but i would trust lincoln more so than vulcan. hope this helps
HF Vs Lincoln
90 day warranty 3 year warranty
Smaller view Larger view
No helmet bag Comes with bag
Less lens cover More lens covers
No bandanna Bandanna
I have one of the cheapest Harbor Freight helmets ever made it's about ten or more years old. Still does the job and on the same batteries that came in it. Yes, I would buy another one from Harbor Freight without any other thought about it.
I'm very impressed with my Vulcan helmet I tend to grab it over my 359 doller Jackson saftey
The difference is in the lens quality
Great video my brother!!!
same i would say , the vulcans look nice, even the chicago electrics helmets work fine lol
They are probably similar because they are on the same level of build. That's why they have the same stamp. Just because the Mazda b4000 truck looks exactly like the ford ranger, doesn't make it a ford ranger.
why are you yelling...
wtf... he is not yelling, Ms. Daisy he just has a loud voice. if you think hes yelling you probably don't want to be around a fab shop or around welders.
@@Mikey-ym6ok he sounds like he has spent some time in the military
Yea, makes me want to find another video... Don't like it at all. Annoying tone imo
Are the battery trays the same? I found a vulcan welding hood lying around in a shop but it's missing the tray
looks like the old viking 2450 the one you have is the 3350 witch is the largest viewing lense they have
I have had the Vulcan since 2019, loved everything about it! My instructor in my welding course told me i could not use the Vulcan in class, it has 0 UV protection, apparantly HF cheapest out on the coating, hence the lower price!...talked to harbor freight and they are giving me store credit! I'm going to order a higher end unit, miller, Lincoln, etc...but i would not recommend the Vulcan to anyone!
The Vulcan helmet manual states it is: UV/IR Protection: Up to DIN 16 at all times.
Your instructor is a moron.
If walks like a duck quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it's a duck in my opinion they're the same just minor difference to avoid someone complaining
Good video but why are you always yelling?
bcoz he is mad that he had to pay more for the lincoln spelling on the helmet
Love my Vulcan
the question should be is the same lens????
I have the Lincoln viking series steam punk painted helmet also never even though to compare it to my vulcan
Is that helmet the Lincoln 3350?
My auto darkening helmet is blurry and hard to tell what I am welding it's also brand new!! What could be wrong with it?
Maybe you need prescription glasses...
Probably need change lens
Would you turn up your hearing aid already and stop yelling at us? Hearing protection is important!
Great video redemption
Thanks Antonio brother I appreciate you.
Made in the same factory.
China has NO laws against piracy and yes, it’s a copy and a good one.
Looks like apples and oranges. Similarity: both are welding helmets. I would trust Lincoln. Look at Hobart hoods.
Your opinion is most likely incorrect. They are not the same when they are different. You said they were the same and slightly different in the same breath. Vulcan is a value helmet and works well but Lincoln's are rated a bit higher in quality. I bought a Vulcan because it is a quality helmet at a fraction of the cost of a Lincoln. Professionals will buy Lincoln over the Vulcan.
Why are you yelling? Nice video, thanks for making it.
@redemptiongarage Haven’t seen you in awhile. Hope all is good.
Thanks buddy yeah all is good I have been working a lot and getting things straightened out. I should be back this weekend. I appreciate you asking.
Redemption Garage That work shit is overrated. Get to making some videos 👍🏻
The chinese are notorious for copying and ignoring patents. I think they copied the Lincoln.
I would buy the Vulcan helmet and the Lincoln lense unit.
Instead of listening to him yell for 7 min just go buy the Vulcan
I think they are the same
Great video my brother. They are the same.
Considering HF sells rebranded welders, this wouldn’t surprise me.
Not a welder by any stretch but if I had to guess I would put money on them being made by the same company. Tricky tricky bastards🤪
Me too brother lol. They are just way too similar.
I’m shook
👍
It’s probably the same part I worked for a company once that put a sticker on a 100 dollars part and made it 500
Are they both made in China?
You may be able to buy the Vulcan for $100 less, but you will wind up using the Lincoln cartridge. The clarity (4C), color, etc, makes all the difference. You won’t be going back, besides it’s a bigger window!
until your Lincoln 3350 takes a crap just out of warranty....Then you start thinking about China reputation for quality and decide to buy an Optrel like I have! I'll take Swiss over China any day!
Honestly both have that beautiful blue tint to them that reduces headaches at work and they have the exact same replacement parts ... I like both of them
So yes different 😂
0:10 fvck yo ears😆
Vulcan > Viking
Those don't look anything alike at all.
Why are you yelling???
to scare away the sensitive little Nancys around here. Men are loud. deal with it.
Useless video. You didn’t compare the most important thing. The view with an arc. Weld with them then let us know.
They do not look the same...
well if they looked 100% identical Lincoln could and would sue HF.
Stop yelling
WHY ARE YOU YELLING??? Couldn't watch the whole video, can't stand people who fricken yell for no damn reason!!!!
I am constantly learning how to make better videos and how to talk to a microphone and to edit as well. You could try to decrease the volume
The author of this superb video is not yelling, but simply enthusiastic about the vulcan helmet. If the volume is to high for you, I suggest you plug your ears just as you would while operating a chainsaw!!
Definitely yelling. Some people just do that. You guys ever watch DIY Auto School or My Friend Pete (same guy...2 channels). That guy yells and screams lol! He's like an angry comic. It's pretty entertaining, but he really embraces it. Check it out.