Almost Perfect - LG C4 OLED (42” 4K 144Hz) PC Review
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- Almost Perfect - LG C4 OLED (42” 4K 144Hz) PC Review
LG just released their latest 2024 C4 OLED TVs, including the 42" LG C4, which many gamers are interested in due to the increased brightness and 144Hz refresh rate. These are significant improvements on paper, but with 32" QD OLEDs coming in at very competitive prices and including a 240Hz refresh rate, is this WOLED from LG obsolete, or is it a surprise gem... Let's find out.
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Intro - 0:00
Specs - 0:30
Design - 0:40
Features & Ports - 1:16
Price - 1:33
Color/Accuracy - 2:04
Brightness - 3:38
Latency - 5:27
Motion - 5:51
Text Clarity - 6:21
Finish - 7:02
Angles & Uniformity - 8:01
Menu - 9:03
Issues - 9:13
Game Support - GREAT
Who is This For - 9:37
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It’s still not worth $1500 when I can get a 32 inch Gigabyte Aorus fo32u2p with DP 2.1 with 4K 240hz for $1200. LG has to understand that they’re not only competing against other TV manufacturers anymore. They’re competing against gaming monitors too. Especially with all the gaming features they like to advertise on their OLED TVs.
Hey, what's the name of that table? I'm interested
This is still only marginally better than the C2,
LG need to make a 42" G4
True true, also add hdr10+ support and dp
@@MrDragonorpit uses the more widely adopted Dolby vision. Only Samsung hasn't gotten the memo yet.
That and a 32" G4 would be golden.
@@edwinwebber5776theres gaming monitors for that lol
You really think so? I mean I would be better buying g2 then as nowdays you can get it for c3 prices than this.
I have the C4 42 after selling my c3 42. Using it as a monitor with my 4090. All I can say is it is much brighter than the c3 and the 144hz is noticeable over the 120hz. Makes the absolute best monitor and prior to this I had a Neo g8 240hz 4k Mini led.
I had a C2 but text wasn’t too clear using as a monitor. Any improvements in text clarity you’ve noticed?
Someone wrote that the c4 has 1150 nits 10%
Heck yes! Can't wait to pick up this new series for 144hz!
When i enable 144hz my colors get washed out, anyone else have this issue? AT 120hz colors look incredible, the second i enable 144hz colors are terrible yellow/green washed out color.
@@CRF250R1521 Using your Nvidia control panel you might have to scroll down to a second set of resolutions. You might have to enable hdr for the 144z mode. Not sure on this yet.
If only a QD-Oled was available at this size. Would be perfect for my desk.
Most probably next year Gen 4 QD OLEDs will be 42 and 48 inch as Samsung is providing S90D in those sizes this year although with WOLED. It will be interesting to compare WOLED 42inch prices with LGs exorbitant almost hostage prices as there was no competition in this Monitor TV category for years
QD-OLED sucks due to the subpixel layout, and it’s especially noticeable at low PPI, which 4K is at 42”. So no, you don’t want QD-OLED for a monitor.
42'' size for a desk. Yikes. And I thought 32'' was too big.
@@bren.r Agreed, I used the Samsung QD OLED and even though the colors could get bright the image was worse for PC's then LGs pixel alignement. Hopefully one day Samsung will fix the pixel arrangement on QD's. As for right now the best PC OLED I've tried remains to be LG's
@@Shadowsmoke1132" would be my absolute largest 16:9 monitor. I have a 27" which is large enough for me.
Thank you for the awesome video. Very informative, its a good option... I was hoping to see MLA in C4 this year.
It doesn't have mla?
@@tazboy1934Nope.... they saved it for the G4
@@tazboy1934 Not the latest one… 8:05 did you not watch the video?
Just scoop up the C3 42 inch for $390 at target clearance, thank for releasing the C4, LG :)
$1500 wtf. Paid $750 for my C3 42”
Yea maybe when they finally add MLA to this thing it'll be worth that price
what's MLA for
@@wewlad107c5 will most likely have mla as the mla patent expires in 2025.
@@rjj00 exactly. Most people wouldn't even be able to tell the difference if it had MLA or not. Proof this is thing doesn't need to be $1500 at launch. Oh I forgot - no competition at the 42inch space, so LG can charge whatever they want
@@rjj00tiny micro lens surface too boost brightness, might also help with colour cant remember, but it does have better viewing angles
So about as bright as an LG CX? Not bad given how the 42" LG TV's usually have their brightness significantly gimped.
And I'd definitely take this over the 32" QD OLED's out now--better real scene brightness, and 144 hz is enough. I do agree that this shouldn't be more than $999 though.
Would you be able to make a video on how to properly calibrate the HDR and color accuracy of TV’s and monitors?
Hi, do you know anything about Koorui's 27" OLED monitor?
Thanks for this review, I thought you were going to share the settings you used, would love to see how close mine are aligning with yours, also I wanna ask which HDMI cable are you using and what is the graphics card for your PC.
Did you enable Dolby Vision or using normal HDR?
Can you please measure brightness and color luminescent while using a widescreen solution? 1600 vertical would be perfect. I would run it this way most times and the brightness should drastically increase if 1/4 of pixels are black (6 mil pixels vs over 8 millions on 4K 16:9)
Looking to upgrade from the C7, what are the differences between the C3 and C4. I’ll be using almost exclusively for content streaming and not gaming. I’ll be getting 55in or the 65in. Thanks.
When it comes to eye strain do you think is there any issue with headaches etc when watching for longer time
It's been a month since I've had the 42" C3 model and I absolutely love it that I ordered another 42" C3 and to find out they're coming out with a C4 model. I guess I'm fine with it since it'll be years till consoles get 4K 120. So I'm happy with the 42" C3 models for now.
you are not, be honest you want the C4 now
@@freshs5647 He saved 1000 dollars and is missing out on 24 extra hertz and a tiny bit of extra brightness. By your logic the only time to buy a product is on release day other wise you may have buyers remorse that you didn't wait for the next one.
The LG OLED G4 seems to be having a significant issue with HDMI2 (eARC). Connecting external video sources to HDMI2 (which work on the other the other 3 HDMIs) do not produce an image (but you can hear sound). I have done all the troubleshooting in the world in order to try to isolate the issue to no avail (changing HDMI cables, factory resets, hard resets, removing the HDMIs one by one and re-adding them one by one, turned off HD color). Nothing works. The interesting thing is that this issue temporarily goes away with a hard reset, but it quickly returns.
After unsuccessful attempts at getting effective tech support from LG, I purchased a second 65 G4. Exact same issue! On 4/4/24, LG pushed down an update 3.10.27 which has not resolved the prob(in fact, it's not even addressed in the release notes). I should also point out that the setup I am using is the exact setup I have had with a C9, CX and a C3 just before getting the G4. This HDMI2 issue never occurred with the other TVs.
The devices I am talking about which work on other HDMIs but not in HDMI2 of the above-referenced TVs are Fire TV 4K stick, Nintendo Switch, Apple TV 4K and PS5.
If this is a software issue, then it can hopefully be addressed quickly by LG, seeing that the G4 is their flagship OLED and the problem is with the most important HDMI - the HDMI2. However, if this is a hardware problem (difficult to believe that both units were defective - in fact, I heard from another LG customer that he is having the same issue with a 83 G4), then LG has its work cut out for it. I can't think of many people who would be willing to wait for a hardware fix which would require for a part to be replaced by a tech's visit on a brand new TV which has been lauded by LG as ground-breaking.
All this would be very easily clarified by LG, but up until this point, it seems to be pushing customers (at least me) to an endless loop of bad customer service and then either that (a) the unit is defective and sine it's under the 30 (or 60 in my case) day return period, it can be returned, or (b) to send a tech to diagnose the issue. What exactly the tech would do beyond what i have done to troubleshoot has not been communicated by LG (unless they believe I would be conformable in having the tech open up a brand new TV and start exploring . . .).
This is very disappointing. I hope that the various reviewers take note of this very easily identifiable problem (all you have to do is connect a few video sources into HDMI2 and observe for a few hours while turning the TV off and on an again). This way, the interested customers would be informed and LG would provide some information on this issue.
never tried oled, waiting for the 65inch C3 to go on sale. C4 is a little pricey and i like large screens
Don't waste your time with regular WOLED, the colours are lousy, they suffer with too much green in the image, and the out of box black crushing has to be corrected with a pro calibration. Go for QD-OLED instead. ;)
It’s crazy on the prices right now between the c3 and the c4. I am cheap. I am thinking to get the c3 65 inch for 1499 dollars instead of spending 2499 dollars on the c4. I there any big differences between the new on over the old c3? Worth the upgrade? Thanks for your input.
Not that much,If you get a good deal on the C3 you could get 77 inch for close to the same price as the 65, i've shot it for 1680 just 2 month ago new. Main difference are the 144hz.
I don't get what the big problem with dimming is for desktop use. I disabled it with the technician remote control on my C2. I spend around 12 hours a day every day on it using it as an office monitor and also for gaming. It's so bright that I just keep the OLED pixel brightness always between 35-45 (and sometimes even that feels almost too bright) and I do at least once a week the pixel cleaning process. There are absolutely no signs of burn in.
IMHO if we're being practical: $1k and being able to work and game every day on it even if it ends up lasting only 2 years with no burn-in is a money well-invested. I just can't go back to punishing my eyeballs with regular monitors or small screen real-estate.
Do you know if the 42” and 48” C4 have Evo pannels. If you check the box on the C3 it says at the very bottom those sizes use a different pannel.
congrats on the scoop!
I have a 42 c2 i use it for playing in consoles for pc is kinda big i will get a 32 4k oled on the future that is the perfect size for a pc monitor
Maybe I missed that, but why not include max brightness in SDR with game mode on? Is it more than ~190 nits which the C2 already had?
Would you pay £300 fpr the C3 or £600 for the C4?
My C2 has damaged pixels and Richersounds will only offer a voucher. So unsure in which to get next for PC
C4.
Most probably next year Gen 4 QD OLEDs will be 42 and 48 inch as Samsung is providing S90D in those sizes this year although with WOLED. It will be interesting to compare WOLED 42inch prices with LGs exorbitant almost hostage prices as there was no competition in this Monitor TV category for years
where is this LINK to get the best picture Settings ???????????????????
Are you sure the 42" is enabling 144hz? What I heard was they were putting 144hz on C4 with 55" and up but C4 42" still remained 120hz.
very nice review great video !
42 C2 owner here. Outstanding colors, great for gaming, not so great for design in Illustrator or Photoshop, because the white value changes depening on how much white there is on the screen. Overall a stunning TV.
Theres always so much focus on using these 42inch models as a monitor, but I'm more interested in using something like this for a smaller room where 55inches wouldnt be practical.
If im watching an SDR TV broadcast or some old movies (not HDR) will it be too dim in anything but a dark room?
The market for higher end TV's in smaller sizes is sadly very under-served.
agreed
That cat is judging the matte enjoyers.
Anyone know the full window peak brightness for LG C3 42” curious how much improvement it is
Best TV I've every bought. It's perfect. The SD upscaling is incredible. The PS5 looks amazing as well.
I have a phillips oled 808 42 inch. It has next gen ambilight wich is a plus but the brightness of the LG C2 42inch and the C4 is a bit better. But not enough.
Thanks for the review. Its best to just wait until the finaly put the better brighter panels into the smaller 42inch size tv's for PC gaming.
Waiting for lg to make a 42" 240hz screen. Hopefully next year
Not possible with HDMI 2.1 in 4k...
@@DanteBellin pretty sure it is with compression. They should add display port to them anyways
@@DanteBellin DSC
@@DanteBellin Yes it is, with DSC.
@@SKLLZTHATKILLZ They won't add DP, since its a TV. A TV is not made for PC monitor usage. Yet the small ones can be used, yet sucks in faster paced gaming because 42 inch is way too big for anything outside of casual gaming.
Im glad your thumbnails and titles are getting less clickbaity
Is the 100% brightness only 153 on c4? That’s even lower than the brightness of c3 tested by rtings
As far as I know, rings' C3 OLED review was done with the 65-inch model.
If you compare it to the same 65-inch C4 OLED, the C4 OLED is brighter.
It was a tough decision for me on this c4 or the 321urx , ultimately the 240hz was the deciding factor
LGs website shows only 120hz on all C4 and G4 sizes! So why is everyone saying 144hz
Why LG still refuses to put MLA and heatsink on TVs below 55" baffles me. Truly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Hi, would it be possible for you to compare the ppi of this 42" tv side by side to a 32" qd oled monitor?
Its basic math.
104 at 42 inches
137 at 32 inches
@@5ean5ean22 wow you dont say.... i would like to know if it makes a visible difference. im using cx48 right now for gaming and my image is pretty sharp and im not sure if an "upgrade" to those newer models is really worth it.
I just got a G95sc delivered yesterday to replace my C2 OLED. I’m shipping it roght back. It doesn’t look as good as my C2.
You say it’s better than previous models, but everything you talk about with the exception of 144hz is the same as the C3, so why would I spend $1500 when I can buy the 42 C3 for like $800?
which is what I did a month ago
@@D1Z4STR me too!
You dont.
He says, in practice, the C4 just looks way better and brighter. Especially in game mode. The C3 had very clear problems when in game mode. Consider actually listening next time.
Tv guy here, the c4 is noticeably brighter than the c3. Had them side by side and the difference was very noticeable. Not only that but the processing is much better too.
Hi, can you give me link to your patreon for best settings for this TV? I can't find it. Thank you
Do you know the subpixel layout on the G4?
At least you know what youre getting...unlike some companies. Getting the 55 inch G4 as my monitor only bc it has MLA.
I’m also thinking the 55” G4 for a monitor. I need that brightness.
I’m either getting a 55 inch G4, S95D, S 90 D or just wait for the Sony TVs. One of my rooms are really bright so I feel like I really need that S 95D and I watched some people with the G4 see themselves in the reflection
should I upgrade from C2? Using it as a monitor
Could you make a video on game vs filmmaker mode? On my c2 filmmaker just looks better and i cant percieve any better performance from game mode.
Thank you :)
You can go into the service menu and turn off the dimming features. It’s not hard.
You cannot. Or atleast you cannot on the C3. I tried but that requires you to permanently be in 'factory mode' which means every time you turn it on you need to wait like more than 30 seconds for the factory mode text box to dissapear.
Or is there a way around this that you've found?
c1 48" user here since it's release. I initially got it in 2021 because it was the smallest oled.
Now I feel like I dig up a hole for my future replacements. I don't think I want to go any smaller now. I got used to the size and even speakers quality is good.
I just have it standing on my desk.
I am thinking about downgrading to 42" but c3 42" was still dimmer than my 48" c1. Maybe c4...
The choice is made easier for me because I hate matte displays. Glossy ftw!
42 С3 brighter than c1 48
Came here for the tv. Stayed for the cats! Thanks for the cat content. More cat content! 😍
There's actually no way this tv cost anything close to $1500 to manufacture. Crazy margins I must say
Most probably next year Gen 4 QD OLEDs will be 42 and 48 inch as Samsung is providing S90D in those sizes this year although with WOLED. It will be interesting to compare WOLED 42inch prices with LGs exorbitant almost hostage prices as there was no competition in this Monitor TV category for years
@@SanjayK-GoldenRatio your comment actually got me hyped for the WOLED samsung panel so I got to digging.. and it seems that their official site is marketing the s90d as QD-OLED instead of WOLED. Are you sure about the woled or was it some other tv you were reffering to?
@@liftor7894 That’s the issue with Samsung’s false marketing they push S90D and S905D as QdOleds while Samsung Display do not male any 42,48 and 83inch panels so Samsung electronics had to use LG display’s Woleds for those sizes
Why are you showing the QNED 8k miniLED in half of your stills?
is this better than SONY A90 42INCH?????
Why do you dont like MATT displays, its suits better for monitor than glossy. I have C2 and its to shiny inho
Wonder how the 42" S90D WOLED will fair against the C4. :O
Buying this.
how did you modifed s90c ?
it would be nice to try out the new s95d modded, would be nice to know what the brightness is on those tv.
Getting the remote tomorrow.i guess it will hit 3000 nits
@@RZLK-02 Man it would be awesome to create a video and showcasing some games, 3k nits is insane if possible!
Has anyone encountered a situation where the TV might die with 144hz HDR turned on？
Does anybody know the brightness in sdr for this tv?
i have the c3 42" and it's pretty dope except for the aggressive dimming, however, i also just got the C3 77" for $1950 including tax and shipping, which is barely more than what you paid for this C4 42"! lol
So we still only have small upgrades over the old LG CX (which has 800 nits peak, 120hz). I would love to see a G4 in 42" with proper brightness - these mediocre C upgrades are not it.
I wish LG would make a monitor just like this but at 32 inches. 42 is just too big for most desk setups.
Even 32” is too big. I think 27” is the sweet spot without having to move your head much.
@@bren.r Depends on your desk. I’d wager most desks are at least deep enough to handle 32”. The only time I can agree with you is for particularly small desks or for competitive gaming. I’d rather use a 32” monitor in 95% of use cases.
Why are the tvs so expensive in us? I just preordered the C4 55 for 900us in Mexico
🧢
@@SWOTHDRA Nope, 100% true, just arrived yesterday
going to return my 42" c3 tomorrow and then get the 48" c4 once the price drops
When did you get yours? Are you planning to use the 48 as a pc monitor?
@@definingslawek4731 i returned the 42" C3 but didn't get the 48" C4, i bought the C3 about a month ago. I think i'm just gonna get an OLED pc monitor as I really don't need a screen so big.
can we put 1440p 144hz for consoles
When i enable 144hz on this tv the colors shift and are washed out is that normal? Seems like this tv can only 144hz with extreme washed out colors.
Have you tried another HDMI 2.1 cable?
@@AdrianusTirta yes i did, i was able to fix my problem by disabling VRR.
Why LG isn't using MLA on the C-series to compete with QD-OLED is beyond me. It's a bummer.
Bc then the G4 will be irrelevant
There is no QD-OLED at 42 inch. They are competing with noone
When can we expect the G4 review?
Probably this week.
@@thedisplayguy how bout a teaser ;) is it amazing?
what about screen burning issue in c4
Glossy Display 🥰
Wait for 42s90d..probably u can mod that to get higher brightness
I would prefer it to be 32 inch so I can use 3 of em I mean my desk is 300 cm after all so 42 just bit to Big in my opinion
C4 or S90c?
Can i use it with 4080
144 hz only?
You’re just an oled lover. And you favor clarity over brightness. To each is own though 700 nits is a must for me at least. Not everybody loves that lol. Good content though. Nice cats 🐈 😂
700 nits 100% window? Which ones do that?
@@definingslawek4731 not oleds lol
@@joeyh3291 Ah okay. New ipad has one of the first tandem oled panels and it gets really bright for an oled so maybe that will be a thing in tvs / monitors now.
I don’t get why the brightness thing is so important. My c2 is run at 10%. 100 % makes me feel like staring into the sun. Why do you want it to go so bright. Why is Samsung being brighter better. Do people sit with this outside?
Ps thank you for the text part. NB into. Thank you
Because HDR eats up a lot of brightness and pictures don't pop. So a brighter screen is required to make the picture pop. Also, brightness is important for people who watch TV in daylight therefore a higher brightness makes the TV have a better picture
@@dicas1988 so my hdr content suffers when i lower my brightness. Hmm. Now i am not sure what to do. Thank you for the response
I will wait for this to go on sale and get this, Contrast and brightness is better and the 144hz, I have patience. Oh and the 55 inch and up is brighter and has brightness booster.
When it goes on sale it will be like 6 months out from c5. Will you wait again then? And then wait for that one to be one sale? Where does it end?
I will wait and see what the Panasonic 42" 144hz has to offer.
this will be on sale at BestBuy for $999 usd in a couple of months just like the previous
Still too much for a 144hz panel lol
@@ThisIsExile91 what games do you play at 4K that you get more than 144 FPS in? One's that aren't Counterstrike / Valorant / Apex etc.
@@Solus793 plenty with a 4090 and DLSS. The game doesn't need to actually render at native 4k to take advantage of a 4k display. Anything that looks better than 1440p would technically be worth it
@@ThisIsExile91 I mean it was kind of a rhetorical question as I have a 4090 myself and not many games are pushing past 200 FPS at best settings on DLSS Quality.
I think 144 Hz is sufficient for singleplayer games, especially when it comes without the headaches of DSC alt+tab delays I'll take it.
@@Solus793 why does it need to be at DLSS Quality? Have you ever tried Performance?
24 extra hertz: "much better option as a pc monitor than in the past" 💀
To be honest for pc i won't get a monitor or tv that doesn't have Dp 2.1 yes no GPU has it yet but since I'm gonna upgrade to the 50 series when it release and the 50 series gonna have it why would i pay 1300 for a monitor with out it over a monitor with it that cost 1200 doesn't make sense but why did the LG c4 jump up so much in price
4K 144Hz 10bit HDR fits within the 48Gbps of HDMI 2.1. You would gain nothing by adding DisplayPort if HDMI isn’t having issues.
@@thedisplayguy i do get that but why wousd buy a monitor like the asus qd oled that cost 1300 when the gigabyte qd oled that cost 1200 and has the dp 2.1 it dosent make sense to me to pay more for less thats all
@@XeqtrM1 the gigabyte its not as good on image quality as the C4, I have both and I stay with the C4
@@mrvicco I mean ofc the c4 is better it's a tv but it's to dam big plus it's not great as a monitor it's okay
@@mrvicco so you have the new gigabyte with DP 2.1? Plus OLED looks better than qd OLED but the gigabyte is still better as a monitor at the end
Still a beautiful display, but they've basically been making the same one for 4 years now. Except from 2022 they've stripped out their advanced hardware based rolling scan BFI. And without that 120/144Hz is a blurry mess. (At least if you've seen CRT, advanced BFI, or high refresh rate displays, and have seen their good motion clarity.)
So one is left with the 240Hz or better displays that at least give the option to try and brute force some motion clarity, except there it is a choice between LG's terrible matte coatings or Samsung's glossy screens, but with the flawed blacks. Still pretty messed up out there...
4 miliseconds u can feal its huge input latency.
I ended up getting the c1. later date. from some place. got a deal on it to. 48"
It's ok.
IDK.
Put rrating settings.
Gsync. no more tearing.
Web os is meh. found the main apps. all good. There is root also. idk any use for it. used the program to add retroarch. plays ps1 alright. retro arch and kodi don't need root to install with the program i found.
there is a color bend. Forum post is to see what model you have. i got the evo c1. it's blue on a angle. They should of found another way.
a dude in the group seen the box. said thought it said a old tv instead. we laughed.
i went with the hype online.
Sounds like the c1 48 inch is still better than this model minus the 144hz. Looks like I’m keeping my c1 another year. I feel like they don’t pay enough attention to these smaller form factor displays. This could be a profitable product category for them.
If you wish to believe that c1 is better than this one - ok
32G4 pleasse 🤗
Nope. The 65" QN900D is the best PC Monitor. 8K 120hz / 4K 240 hz
Just got my 42" C3 last week. I couldn't justify paying double the price for 24hz
Aw3225qf qd oled vs c4 oled 42 😃
These are the options I'm looking at too
I’m trying to decide this myself. Or even the Asus pg32ucdm too
Burn-in???
its time to buy a C3 for a good price
OOOOOOH now that i have a job I will totally GET THIS SUCKER this summer. :D
C4 woled vs s90d 😃
i only have 120hz on my lg c4
If the cats approve i approve 😂