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  • @HellaBass
    @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    *Never fish Fluoro on Spinning Reels >>>>> **th-cam.com/video/qtYTMa7C2v4/w-d-xo.html*

  • @paoslee
    @paoslee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used to be a only abrazx and invizx guy. After seeing berkely vanish at a walmart i tried it out and havent switched since. I see no real world use difference and have caught a ton of fish on vanish. Get a huge spool for under 20. I still have large spools of invizx left but i dont even touch it anymore. Think of it as a trophy mount lol.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vanish let me down when it first came out, sounds like it is a better product now, but haven't tried it lately

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you tried it on a spinning reel???
      Thanks

  • @buzbait88
    @buzbait88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've given up on flouro. If I want a good clear line with low stretch I like the suffix advanced mono

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing wrong with mono and copoly lines, they are underrated

  • @ShaneJMcNair
    @ShaneJMcNair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was braid only, but I'm learning to cast fluorocarbon now. I've used Berkeley Vanish to kinky, Seagar InvizX easier to cast, and Kastking Kovert, too stiff/fluffy for my liking. Straight braid or braid to leader is still my favorite and easiest to cast for me... Thanks for sharing 🍺🎣

    • @ETuss713
      @ETuss713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The idea of throwing straight fluro is pushed by line makers. I would love to hear a honest rebuttle where fluro would be better than braid to leader or strait mon/copoly

    • @ShaneJMcNair
      @ShaneJMcNair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Rainbo Sprinkles Straight Florocarbon will transmit vibrations on slack line where the other lines won't when finesse fishing. You will need a highend very sensitive rod to be able to detect those vibrations. Also, Straight Florocarbon will sink and run deeper for cranking when needed. You can back with mono to save money on Straight Florocarbon. Hope this helps 🍺🎣

    • @bigbassintv4523
      @bigbassintv4523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vanish also breaks way to easy

  • @walleyecrazy
    @walleyecrazy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good video. One other area where I think Tatsu is 100% worth the money is for jerkbaits. The lack of line memory makes it perfect for suspending jerkbaits. The line is so limo that it does not effect the bait at all on long pauses. Cheaper line can have enough recoil from line memory to actually move the bait slightly during the pause.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I was wealthy, I would bath in Tatsu lol

  • @Pray4Mojo1
    @Pray4Mojo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mom bought me a 900 yard spool of 4lb blue mono at a random dollar store when I was 14. I am 38 years old now and still have a bunch of the line. I spooled it up a few years ago on a ultralight rod and it is still like new. I used other lines between now and then of course, and prefer braid. But it has lasted me the majority of my life. Point is, if you take care of your line and store it properly, it can last a hell of a long time. It's still my go to for light leader material.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mom of the year!

  • @billpatterson6249
    @billpatterson6249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great video! Backs up what I’ve always said, “Line is a racket.” I use PLine Flouroclear for movin baits. I opt for PLine Tactical for presentations requiring sensitivity. Also, I make my line last on the reel and have been known to reverse it. Keep a good line conditioner handy.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have reversed braid but never mono or fluoro

    • @dbettis6477
      @dbettis6477 ปีที่แล้ว

      pline is the best, 2nd to none
      believe it or not bass pro fluro is 2nd to pline

  • @dustinclick9496
    @dustinclick9496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the informational video. Being new to bass fishing anything that saves money helps

  • @haroldrogers6566
    @haroldrogers6566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yozuri at academy for 9.99 has become my go to. It works!!! I use 7 lb FC for drop shoting. And can change it without breaking the bank. And I won 20+ tournaments in the last three years on cheap line 😊

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very cool, wish there were a few Academy stores around me

    • @haroldrogers6566
      @haroldrogers6566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can buy it on academy’s web site. It’s better than red label. I’ve used both, I will put yozuri up against fc. Yozuri doesn’t fray as bad as fc does on rocks or cover.

  • @willperryman4559
    @willperryman4559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve used all of those lines and I have been for decades ( I’m old😜) and I have found Red Label at Walmart for $11.99 @200yrd spools. I agree with you 💯 and it’s painful to buy Tatsu even if on sale 😂😂😂

  • @rogerdudra178
    @rogerdudra178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've seriously been pondering new line for my Pflueger President reel and monofilament lines have been very high on my short list of new lines. I once had a full spool of pretty good fluorocarbon, Sniper, and it flew off my spool after maybe 20 casts and I knew how to use the reel. So, I went to braid with the leader which reminds me of fly fishin.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Braid to fluoro is the deal for spinning setups

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a Pflueger president 2016 limited edition spinning reel and the best reel ever for the money, the Supreme XT bait caster. They sadly discontinue the supreme XT😭😭. Maybe they weren’t making enough on it…I dunno! Made in South Korea. Beats $300+ reels.
      I use to think it was snake oil but I highly recommend line conditioner for fluorocarbon and ESPECIALLY on a spinning reel.

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HellaBassSo you back you spinning reels with braid?? How many yards of each do you run please???

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually typically start with 30-40 yards of inexpensive leftover mono or fluoro, then fill thr spool with light braid and then just replace fluoro leaders as needed

  • @dinkmaster8129
    @dinkmaster8129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been under the impression that as long as you understand the line your using any fluro is acceptable. I've tried the best of the best and I still come back to Vicious and Sunline Super in the blue packaging.

  • @CoopsFishinAddiction
    @CoopsFishinAddiction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well I just learned a ton in about 7 minutes thanks

    • @CoopsFishinAddiction
      @CoopsFishinAddiction 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am pretty new to fishing < 3 years. I fishing my baitcasters with brand to fluroleaders because every time I try straight fluro I have some many line issues any recs for when I try straight Fluro again ??

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What type of line issues? Backlash, breaking? Nothing wrong with braid to leader if it works for you on baitcasters

    • @CoopsFishinAddiction
      @CoopsFishinAddiction 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellaBass the line coming off , getting tangled just not stay on the spool as well. That sort of stuff ... changing baits into the fluro leader be nice to not have to keep doing the fluro leaders

  • @Venandii77
    @Venandii77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for me, i use braid for everything BUT with a long leader of either fluro or mono. My experience proved to me that the affordable bass pro xps brand of fluro has done wonders without the high cost of " name brand " products. I no longer use name brand, as i have experienced " failures" at the worst times. Whereas BPS version hasnt let me down yet! may wanna give it a try if your looking to save a few dollars.......

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @bassin4tay768
    @bassin4tay768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Premium quality fluoro can be bought at very affordable prices. Just have to shop around. And line is the most important part of fishing. You can go cheap elsewhere just not on line. Just my opinion

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great point!

  • @dualthreatoutdoors
    @dualthreatoutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree with almost everything you said other than a comment you made at the beginning; when I switched from mono to floro in 2013, my catch rate for bass in clear water doubled, and even tripled in some cases. The only use I have anymore for mono is treble hooked topwater baits and backer. It’s worth it for someone to switch from mono to a lower end floro. Huge difference.
    I use invisx for alsmot everything, red label and the newer white label seguar are great for the price.

    • @Daltonbrake
      @Daltonbrake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely agree. Catch rate increased immediately after the switch. Best decision I ever made.

    • @dualthreatoutdoors
      @dualthreatoutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Daltonbrake yep! I like it better than braid to floro too

  • @ETuss713
    @ETuss713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with most of this. Good stuff.
    Mono and copolymer are more abrasion resistant. Unfortunately, people dont understand refraction and reflection. The claim from fluro makers that its invisible is good marketing, but thts about it.
    Fluro has less stretch. Thats about it. So if thats important, go for it. As a leader material, ill take 15lb monoover 20lb fluro all day for toughness.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, the fact that fluoro sinks is another main differentiator for me

    • @ETuss713
      @ETuss713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @HellaBass yes. Mono sinks too, just slower. It is a little upsetting to me to see professionals and the industry push so many claims that I see newer anglers either fet confused, overwhelmed, or beat down over since they didnt have the exact product promoted that day.

  • @sirjhonson8218
    @sirjhonson8218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use Fluorocarbon line for a leader about 24' to 36' long and Trilene Big Game mono or with a mid priced braid.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a good combo, Big game is very underrated

  • @rickpurcell4920
    @rickpurcell4920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hellabass, good video. I agree with you on using the higher end flouro for dragging baits, I do use some (few) flouro for small crankbaits and jerkbaits. A few years ago I went to flouro reaction baits, but after a couple of frustrating yrs dealing with flouro lines I reverted back to PLine co-polymer CXX xtra-strong for all my reaction baits. I can buy a 3000 yd spool of PLine for the cost of 660 yd spool of Sniper, when AFL has their Sunline sale.
    Seldom do I think the water is so clear on Ky Lake that I need flouro line for reaction baits. The exception to that is some late fall/winter flatsided crankbaits and jerkbaits and I will use flouro line. All my spinning rods are braid to flouro(Sniper) regardless if reaction or dragging bait techniques.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, mono is underrated, I think I should use it more often

  • @fishingmaster99
    @fishingmaster99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Samuri is pretty good. I still use mono and barely have any issues

  • @aarondavis8224
    @aarondavis8224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've tried expensive flouro but these days I just buy berkley vanish from Walmart and get 600 yards for $18

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't tried vanish recently l, when it first came out many years ago, it broke really easy, I am sure it's good now

    • @aarondavis8224
      @aarondavis8224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HellaBass i have no complaints about it. I use several different lb tests from 10lb to 20lb and I haven't had any issues

    • @zachwelker8085
      @zachwelker8085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would you trust the vanish for throwing $100 swimbaits?

  • @treverwagner
    @treverwagner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% agree! I reserve the expensive stuff for main leader lines and rip rap.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍👍👍👍

  • @rivercityrambler7751
    @rivercityrambler7751 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I run 10lb Invisx on my 2500 TatulaD-XH LT MQ.
    It is a spinning reel and I've never had an issue running straight fluro.

  • @robertpatterson3406
    @robertpatterson3406 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trilene 100% flurocarbon once a year at Bass Pro Shops buy one get one half price . Thats the only time that I buy fluro . I really like Berkley sensation I exclusively use that in place of mono.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smart to stock up when on sale

  • @davidhenderson1738
    @davidhenderson1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. You have my hamster wheel turning, because I just spent 200$ at bass pro for FC sniper which has been my go to for years. Definitely going to try those lines.
    Thanks.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      SNIPER is Good Stuff, love it, just save it for certain rods

  • @kathyg4906
    @kathyg4906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation! Thanks

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @TerpDerp
    @TerpDerp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Berkeley Fluroshield is my go to after years with P Line. It's just as good as the yellow label Seagar

  • @areddfishing7473
    @areddfishing7473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use P-Line Ultimate fluro carbon is $22.99 for a 250yards which isn’t bad. It’s high quality and you don’t break off on it. Seriously trying to break off when your hung up it’s ridiculous hard. But I will say your right save on the moving and if you want spend more on bottom contact baits for sure

  • @nickdigrino4423
    @nickdigrino4423 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whether budget or high cost, I found that when using fluoro I had to change out my line often to avoid breakoffs. My line weakened significantly after hookups or snags (line stretching). The permanent line damage led me to return to fishing either straight mono or braid to leader.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      always do what works for you!

  • @acme9538
    @acme9538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fair enough. Makes sense having a lesser quality fluro, for less demanding applications.
    I use Tatsu for close quarters pitching . . . I'll put on 40 yards at a time (I back the reel 1st) and so I'll get 5 spool-ups out of a 200 yard spool.
    I also un-spool the line after a trip and run it through a small piece of cloth saturated with Line & lure Conditioner, then spool it back on the same way.
    This makes the Tatsu last even longer . . . . I fish pretty often, and 1 spool of Tatsu will last me about a season & a half . . . makes it a bit easier to stomach the price.
    Takes a few extra minutes to do this . . . but it's really nice having such a premium line when we spend so much money on everything else . . . after all, the line is where the hustle meets the muscle.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% agreed, use the premium line in smart ways in the places its justified!

  • @dariusking2927
    @dariusking2927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use Hi Seas Quadro love the stuff hard to beat Amazon for getting Thousand yard spools. You have to keep a eye out on it they will mark down there fishing line to a insanely cheap price just move it

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tip!

  • @bassinbilliards6279
    @bassinbilliards6279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started using seaguard from a Rockfishing background and now only use it freshwater. They make their own resins and line in house no third parties. Best line I've used and honestly 10$ red to 30$ sale Tatsu is perfect for me. Lately I only run Invizex and tatzu and I'll never look back. I make too much to worry about 20$.

  • @timg185
    @timg185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    P line CXX is super strong and low stretch compared to other co polymers . But it has more memory than fluorocarbon. Great for flipping but I can’t cast a small crank without back lashing . Seagar red label works great for me for most applications.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting, just saw that CXX super strong newly added to Omnia

  • @davidrauschenbach6871
    @davidrauschenbach6871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, as you said try to buy on sale. I also find myself buying the larger yardage spools especially when I use it on different reels or tend to go through a lot of certain size. 😂. Thanks for the tips!

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think I am done buying 250yd spools for anything that is not leader line

  • @koryscullawl8895
    @koryscullawl8895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used so many fluros…I think the best value is Sniper for anything you lean on them. Assassin for other mainly because you get more per spool. Seaguar is good but I think sunline is slightly better

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You completely missed the point lmao.

  • @timothymetcalf8001
    @timothymetcalf8001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I buy my high end Tatsu from TW. Every year when they start the 25 days of Christmas....its 30% off...I'll buy the 1000yd spool ....it will save you $84. It will last me 2years

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buying line in bulk is a good idea for sure

  • @toddwinegar7365
    @toddwinegar7365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use Mono (suffix elite) 90% of the time. When I do fish a crank bait or jerkbait , I use Pline. Hardly ever use straight which ever. I am a braid to leader guy. So mostly Im talking about what I use as a leader. I have a rod spooled up with 100% 12lb suffix elite 12lb that I fish my whopper plopper ,bbz1 rats, once top water is back poppin here in east TN. Best budget braid is Hercules PE, I also keep a spool of Berkely Invisialine > Now that is a budget Flouro. But seriously @ years ago I started using Higher end lines, for my leader material and i will never go back. But yes mostly fish a jig and mainly go braid to leader with Suffix Elite 10 or 12lb mono. I land a very high percentage of my fish. I also will add that to me, Seagur and Sniper are expensive line! Maybe Im poor but I catch fish!

    • @ETuss713
      @ETuss713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This. You're twlling the truth, but line companies dont want people to hear it.
      Im an inhore kayak fisherman mostly. I do fish for bass often, too, though. A $6, 700 yd spool of ande or big game is what I use fpr leader most the time and it works much better than any fluro Ive used as a leader. When fishing inshore getting snagged in oyters or a fish running through pilings is a given. With fluro, its almost a sure bet youll get broke off. Mono, im still getting that fish to the boat. Suffix elite is a great mono too.

  • @stevencaldwell838
    @stevencaldwell838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only line I spool my reels with is Izorline xxx copolymer. It’s limp, low stretch, abrasive resistant, very low memory, strong as hell, small diameter, incredible knot strength, neutrally buoyant, and best of all, extremely well priced. After 40 years of salt and freshwater fishing and experimenting with a plethora of brands, Izorline xxx copolymer surpasses them all. Tackle Warehouse is where I buy mine.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do agree that Copoly is underrated as an option

    • @timg185
      @timg185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Been wondering about that line. But didn’t know anyone who uses it. Might have to give it a try

    • @stevencaldwell838
      @stevencaldwell838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timg185 Ya, I’ve tried so many lines over the year’s and I have always gone back to Izorline. There should be some reviews on Tackle Warehouse…

    • @stevencaldwell838
      @stevencaldwell838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timg185 Hahaha, I just checked the reviews on TW and I actually submitted one in 2021!

  • @ryanjofre
    @ryanjofre 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some stretch can be great indeed. I’ve seen a hook almost tear through a Bass’s mouth because it was a monster and braid doesn’t stretch!😱.
    I’ve used all the higher end Japanese made fluorocarbon with great results but I never pay retail, I hunt for bargains on feebay!!!

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed, not all stretch is bad

  • @markblackstad8705
    @markblackstad8705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never seen a need to use anything more spendy than Sunline Assassin for my straight flouro applications. I won some spools of higher end flouro in fantasy fishing and it was good but not noticeably better than Assassin in my experience. I used to use straight flouro a lot but now use more braid to flouro. or straight braid now. Also, as many have already commented. I fill half to 2/3 of my baitcasters with low cost mono or whatever is laying around as backing first before the flouo goes on. No need for any spendy line (braid or flouro) in the bottom half of your spool.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, all my spools are half filler

  • @johnsonlee696
    @johnsonlee696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red label is definitely on most of my reels. Bang for the freakin buck!

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good stuff for sure

  • @mattress2331
    @mattress2331 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just found your channel, Awesome info!

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome aboard!

  • @pdfahie
    @pdfahie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hella, I just ordered fc sniper for the season (600 yds on 25% off). For the past 3 years I’ve been using braid to fluoro leader but I got tired of using fg knot. 😫

    • @willjunkin732
      @willjunkin732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look into the blood knot. Learned it from debo. It's alot easier to tie.

    • @pdfahie
      @pdfahie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willjunkin732 thanks but I just switched back to all fluoro for my bass setups so I can just use my uni knot. I had been using 30 lb braid with 20 lb fluoro leaders but last year switched to 40lb mono leaders in case a musky bit a bass setup. Turns out 40 lb mono might not be the best for getting bass to bite 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOVE SNIPER! Money well spent!

    • @pdfahie
      @pdfahie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HellaBass thanks, I look forward to getting back to fluoro. I’ve been using all braid with fluoro leaders for years. I really don’t remember what an all fluoro bite feels like 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

  • @vypersoft1
    @vypersoft1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best Fluro I have ever used is the one I get from my neighbors bass boat at 2 am.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely the cheapest lol

  • @scottvermonter920
    @scottvermonter920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Hella great info!

  • @northbeach182
    @northbeach182 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    anyone remember Shakespeare cheapo fishing line? used it as a kid in Florida... caught tons of fish of all types... Not so sure these lines aren't designed to catch the fisherman more than fish..

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have been using more and more Big Game mono lately

  • @HBeretta
    @HBeretta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    P-Line Ultimate fluoro is certainly in the mix on the budget side. Assassin is more sensitive and durable than Sniper...and feel Assassin 12# it's superior than Sniper 12# noticeably. Tatsu is the creme de la creme for sure and likewise use it for leaders only. It's worth noting that I use 12# Assassin for 10XD and Big M 7.5 deep cranking and have never had issues. Great video...always like the hear different perspectives on fishing lines.

  • @watchman316ly
    @watchman316ly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For just fresh water- I use braid and then use Seaguar & Sunline FC Sniper as a leader. The braid last forever- they don't create memory and cast a mile. Then after a while I swap the braid by putting it on another reel. The old becomes the bottom and what has not been exposed to much water is now on top. I also use a lot of shallow spools so I don't end up using to much line. For most fresh water fishing applications you will need no more than 100 yds!

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you got it down, do the same for spinning rods

  • @Oldbasshole
    @Oldbasshole ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still experimenting with flouro , haven’t found one I really like yet

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All part of the fun

  • @backlashpro830
    @backlashpro830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I catch just as many on budget as premium line. My favorite budget is yo zuri top knot.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard good stuff about Top Knot, haven't tried it myself yet

  • @morganyoder4277
    @morganyoder4277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tatsu, tatsu, tatsu, It’s simply gold. Everything about it is awesome as long as you retie often.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everything except for the price lol

    • @morganyoder4277
      @morganyoder4277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellaBass id have to agree 😂

  • @chadwoodward2402
    @chadwoodward2402 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are only three companies that make the PVDF resin. Seaguar is the only company that makes it's own resin and extrudes their own line from it. Every other manufacturer buys their resin from the other two manufacturers. Just little extra info about Flouro for the people.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the nuggets Chad

  • @ukstorm2727
    @ukstorm2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Invisix for my jerkbait setups, K9 100% flouro on my jig and worm rods and regular K9 Flouro (co polymer) for all my moving baits, the regular K9 flouro is amazing , strong , invisible and supple, you can even put it on a spinning rod, best part its $18.99 for 550 yards

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know, haven't tried K9

  • @svmoua24
    @svmoua24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Use braid backing on all my reels (baitcasting and spinning). This will save how much fluro you will actually be spooling with. Then seagur red label for all reaction (cranking, chatterbaiting, etc.) except jerkbaiting. A little stretch with it is actually beneficial for reaction baits. Seagur invisx for all spinning reels and and jerkbaiting because it's extremely manageable and less memory. Seagur abrazx for all jiggin and flippin n pitchin that's not into vegetation and bottom-contact techniques.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure, all my reels have backing, never fully respool

    • @garygilbert2168
      @garygilbert2168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Started off as antifluoro but ended up as pro fluoro and very expensive fluoro hmmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use backing unless it's 17lb or heavier. I can spool a pro ti outfitted with 20lb sunline & a good tailwind.

  • @bigbassintv4523
    @bigbassintv4523 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My go to is Trilene xl 14 pound in green

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว

      if I am going mono or co poly, I am going Big Game

  • @hookedonbassncats
    @hookedonbassncats 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Red label is where i started and on a baitcaster it was fine. Put some 8lb on my spinning and it was horrible. I will only use invizx on spinning or I usually use braid to a fluorocarbon leader.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I only go braid to leader for spinning rods, this video was largely directed at casting gear

  • @caroferg8857
    @caroferg8857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the explanation. Still not a major flouro fan…. At all. And nope don’t use leaders. Lazy lol

    • @juli82E
      @juli82E 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hate leaders!!! I break off with my leaders and Pline....If it weren't for red label I'd be fishin nothing but braid! Lol

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta work ok that knot game!

  • @williamcarr1678
    @williamcarr1678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use the red for leader and invisex for whole reels.

  • @aaronschmoldt9080
    @aaronschmoldt9080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for being the person to speak the truth. I don't know if I can take another brian bengtson invizx rant. 😀
    Sunline Super Fluorocarbon is also a good budget option for reaction line.

  • @fan4life345
    @fan4life345 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Top 3 floro lines 100% are:
    Seaguar Tatsu 12lb
    Fc sun sniper 14lb
    Seaguar invizex 15lb
    Use as leaders tied to 20lb power pro low viz green braid and trust me please, you will never use anything else for landing quality hogs! Tight lines today!!

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Solid choices

  • @jmr.6723
    @jmr.6723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the benefit of Tatsu as a leader line over cheaper lines? I mean, with just a few feet of leader you don't have to deal with memory, and I'm not sure if there's much of an impact regarding sensitivity. Can you please clarify?

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seems like best knot strength and abrasion resistance for me

  • @sethakenson
    @sethakenson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm braid to fluoro leaders on almost everything expect crankbait full fluoro and Frog straight braid

  • @lightningmusky5286
    @lightningmusky5286 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Vicious Pro elite up to 17 .Red label is on up to 10 lb. If you stretch flurocarbon with a deep diver or something fairly heavy it usually behaves better. 17 lb and 20 lb usually use Tatsu

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like you're dialed on works for you

    • @lightningmusky5286
      @lightningmusky5286 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellaBass Dialed in fairly well but always looking to better things. Line is pretty important. I love Xplasma braid for open water and in between 3 for grass fishing.

  • @victorxavier9977
    @victorxavier9977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Hella!

  • @davidrauschenbach6871
    @davidrauschenbach6871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Red label has not failed me yet, I do use more expensive ones but purchase when they’re on sale!

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Red Label is tough as nails!

  • @drakes1515
    @drakes1515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seaguar red label is great line. Also their abrazx is great as well.

  • @robbiebrown4653
    @robbiebrown4653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I go straight floro. To many problems with a leader. I was breaking off 2 much. I think the leader thing is just over rated. Just my opinion

  • @rocknreelnrod
    @rocknreelnrod ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't go fishin' without Berkeley trilene !! 10# caught me a 9 and 1/2 pounder !

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like it works awesome

  • @jeremyconkwright3636
    @jeremyconkwright3636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I go with assassin across the board from leader for spinning rig to throwing swimbaits that weight 6 7 ozs

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No shame in that game, it is good line

  • @t.a.4702
    @t.a.4702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm am just an average dude but my biggest PB large has come using Sunline FC. Don't know why, i use Copoly and Mono for moving baits in darker color rivers and caught good Smallies cause the they keep my bait higher too. Jig's , finesse and T rigs type stuff seem to catch more with a Pline 100% Flouro , and FC Sniper. Invisex usually loses memory faster for me.

  • @erokraider1690
    @erokraider1690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My experimenting with Red label is it really doesn’t sink. It only partly sinks. Invizx sinks totally. Also for budget I started using Berkley vanish.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is an interesting nugget

  • @jerryc2709
    @jerryc2709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red Label all day long. I have used it for years with 0 difficulty.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, it's good stuff

  • @dustinclick9496
    @dustinclick9496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know your a busy guy but if you have time. I have mono on all reels I’ve been using them for everything. Also to be honest it’s the one that cabelas and bass pro gives you when you purchase a reel. My question is would I notice a big difference if switched the line out to the application the rod Is for? I know everyone has opinions but I’d really like to know if it’s actually worth the money and time

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing wrong with mono. Really depends on application. My answer would be different for each application, but mono is a great do it all line. Really up to you if you would find the value

  • @bassmastermatt
    @bassmastermatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any thoughts on lifespan for unused line still on the filler spool? I agree. Got some Red Label on sale last winter and Invisx on a bargain bin deal off Omnia in the fall!

    • @Twangtown7
      @Twangtown7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as it isn't stored in the sun, or a really hot room, it'll last years. Dark, cooler room and at least 7+ years.

    • @bassmastermatt
      @bassmastermatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Twangtown7 That is what I kind of assumed , but wasn't certain. Thanks for the reply. 😀

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes agreed 👍

  • @blind_eye_fishing
    @blind_eye_fishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why buy seaguar red label when you can get bass pro flouro cheaper and it's the exact same line even on the same spools lol just different labels. They are both made in the same plant.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to know, only reason would be that Red Label is more widely available and I rarely shop at Bass Pro

  • @patrickcotter945
    @patrickcotter945 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Stuff!
    So I need two rods set up with Flouro for the annual deep creek spotted sea trout fishing that last about two months , these fish move into fresh water from the sounds and bays and are very finicky, strike very light and are heavy pressured. they sit on the bottom 14-24 feet in current , throw 1/8 swim baits and ned rigs . these fish range from 2-8 lbs. i can’t find a flouro line that wont bird nest , or pop anywhere a long the line when snagged. i’m using spinning gear 2000/3000 size , what type would you recommend?

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you fishing straight fluoro or braid to fluoro?

  • @NorthWoodsWes
    @NorthWoodsWes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We see you Hella! 👀

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

  • @Edward-ci8yl
    @Edward-ci8yl ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried FC SNIPER 7 LB, PULLED strength
    Was 4 lbs .I never put it on my reel sold it on eBay to get some money back PU.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, how did you measure the pull strength?

    • @Edward-ci8yl
      @Edward-ci8yl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellaBass I use a refrigerant scale but you can use a fish scale,tie one end to hook with no point and the other end to fish scale and pull and watch where the line fails. If it breaks at the knot it is not a good test!

    • @Edward-ci8yl
      @Edward-ci8yl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellaBass I used a scale used to measure a.c. refriderent put a bucket of water on the scale then tied a knot to the bucket . Then I zeroed the scale and pulled till it broke. You can use a digital fish scale just test it to make sure it is accurate!

  • @SkeeterAdventures
    @SkeeterAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't go wrong with Red Label if you're looking to save a few $$ !

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, quality stuff

  • @coltonblombergfishing4445
    @coltonblombergfishing4445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also save tons of money buying bulk spools and you don’t waste as much

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also a good tip, didn't show them in the video, but I do have several bulk spools of my most common line sizes

  • @derekjackson1039
    @derekjackson1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seegar basix is fine

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven't had a chance to try Basix yet

    • @derekjackson1039
      @derekjackson1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HellaBass first time for me and so far so good.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekjackson1039 good to know thnx

  • @bassguy1960
    @bassguy1960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your thoughts on Vicious lines?

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been several years since I have fished it, my recollection was that it was very tough, but not the greatest on the spool or castability

  • @Garminrules
    @Garminrules 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trilene Big Game

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Used that a bunch down in the Bayou

  • @shimanoshane4020
    @shimanoshane4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $400 rod $250 reel $25 jerk bait $85000 bass boat why save a few $ on line?😂

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta pinch a few pennies here and there to fuel the rig... 🙃😄

  • @robertrodriguez4587
    @robertrodriguez4587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I throw FC on my spinning rods, red label on most my bait caster’s. I crank with FC crank.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Straight fluoro or braid to fluoro on spinning?

    • @robertrodriguez4587
      @robertrodriguez4587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellaBass Straight Flouro. I can’t get used to the feel, and sound of a knot through my guides.

  • @lucashawks2160
    @lucashawks2160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Red Label except that they don't make it in 17...

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I don't like it when line brands don't have a 17 or 18lb option

  • @nathanmcconnell5893
    @nathanmcconnell5893 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bass Pro Shops Excell fluorocarbon is made my Segar and is $10

  • @JoshFlowers1995
    @JoshFlowers1995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trilene Biggame Monofilament ! Spool that up and go catch them end of story

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually use Big Game for most moving baits

  • @Theoffishial_Theo
    @Theoffishial_Theo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tatsu is bae. Even better leader line than gold label in my opinion

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's more expensive???
      Bae or Tatsu?

    • @Theoffishial_Theo
      @Theoffishial_Theo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      HellaBass they are proportional lol. You prompted me to do some math and I found out gold label is more than 3x as expensive by the yard than tatsu

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to know, I will stick to making leaders from Tatsu

  • @lawbrewer
    @lawbrewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sniper is awesome.

  • @chriswalls5831
    @chriswalls5831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got fluorocarbon wont use mono unless it's maxima mono I got Berkley fluorocarbon I like

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Berkley is much better than it used to be for Fluoro, Vanish was a bad deal when it first came out

    • @chriswalls5831
      @chriswalls5831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HellaBass I use flute vanish pretty good

  • @willjunkin732
    @willjunkin732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use braid backing on everything. Pretty much use Berkley trilene mono and floro. Hasn't let me down yet and dosnt break the bank. Especially when you find at bass pro bogo.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it works, it works

  • @joshdennis8841
    @joshdennis8841 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought seaguar red label today and I fucking hate it already. It backlashes every freaking cast on my Tatula. I’ve never ever had this problem with line before.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  ปีที่แล้ว

      What size?

    • @joshdennis8841
      @joshdennis8841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellaBass 15 pound and it’s trash unless you have line conditioner for it

  • @marcogonzalez2914
    @marcogonzalez2914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol just bought Sunline shooter 🤪

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is good line!

  • @upstatenybassmaster4211
    @upstatenybassmaster4211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo zuri hybrid is the absolute best

    • @upstatenybassmaster4211
      @upstatenybassmaster4211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use it for a leader. Never anything else

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not tried it, but have heard good things

  • @6thSenseJunkie
    @6thSenseJunkie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Walmart. Berkley Vanish. That’s all you need. It does everything you want.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like Vanish is better than when it first came on to market, had issues with it back then

  • @adamb306
    @adamb306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fluoro is nice but don't buy the hype. There are lots of videos out there comparing the abrasion resistance of fluoro vs mono and many times mono holds up longer.

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would agree, the fact that fluoro sinks and has a little less stretch is the biggest difference

  • @bigrockwell3672
    @bigrockwell3672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IDUBBZ OUTRO lol

  • @TWC6724
    @TWC6724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seagar Basix

    • @HellaBass
      @HellaBass  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven't had a chance to try it, but I would bet it is solid

  • @shadow8403
    @shadow8403 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Hella, great content. I would love to send you a free hat or shirt from Kane Fishing Gear. I am a wounded veteran helping other wounded veterans through fishing. Please let me know, it would be my honor to send you something.
    P.S. I also grew up in Detroit, miss fishing Lake St. Clair......