It is crazy the impact this video is having. No one has stock left. I hope you have a good long discussion with spro after this. You pretty much showed them the power of a solid TH-cam video. Very cool!
Best is subjective. Flouro sinks like a brick. Sometimes you need something of neutral buoyancy or even floating. Perhaps you should have said the best bass fishing line. Or best lure fishing line. Or best flourocarbon line. Good video though. You earned the like.
First of all I am a retired engineering teacher with 38 years of teaching experience. I commend you on your efforts. I ran many similar tests many times with my students under very strict conditions. Your testing conditions and testing methods were interesting without the use of expensive testing equipment. I wish I was still teaching so I could show my students your video. Nice job and thanks for sharing your experiment.
This was something I've been curious about since getting into fishing (through both you Jon and this channel); it's great to see the engagement as it allows me to feel as if I've made the correct choice in educational, but fun, content
Japanese J braid is very good I run 60lbs on the Mississippi and Missouri River for monster catfish in wicked current I started with spider wire before they became junk now but that J braid is good stuff on fresh water idk about salt
Right, I've started watching all of this channels cast videos. Very well thought through and very project farm. I like to see him do one for monofilament
I haven't even finished this video but Tyler I love how in depth you go with these videos. The last couple you have made have been off the charts incredible. Keep up the amazing work!
Without doubt the most thorough and complete line test ever done. Lots of line test videos out there but yours's was the ONLY one that I have ever seen that tested for line memory which is IMO hugely important as I use spin casting reels as much as bait casting reels and as a matter of fact my sons use spinning reels more and I own 2x as many spinning reel set ups as bait casters and memory is at times a very major problem.
Dude, the amount of dedication you had to this video, serious respect. I’m three minutes in and I can’t wait for the end result. Thank you for all the hard work to save more anglers time and money! 💪🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻
That was absolutely one of the best and most informative videos I have seen on TH-cam in a long time. Thanks for the great effort that you put into this.
Really well done. I love how you broke down everything and used so many brands. I wonder if some brands have better high lb like 20 while some of the lower weights 12-16lb they might be better. I've noticed on tackle wharehouse that the diameter doesn't go down in size in the same increments as the lbs would indicate. Great video and good choice of graphics.
so this is what you’ve been working on for so long, makes complete sense now lol. your dedication to this channel is truly amazing Tyler, love the content and information you are consistently sharing!!
Great series of tests! I would have liked to see a comparative test of knot strength included. The line strength has little significance if it continuously fails at the knot, which ultimately determines the overall strength of the line.
Hey GandO. Jon did the heavy lifting here for all of his fans. You should try mono. Then Fluoro. It’s important work but the show Jon did with knot strength is a video masterpiece. Thanks again
@@mrs.vasquezzsame here. It’s the only mono I use anymore. Plus the way they wind it perfectly is just 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼 so satisfying 😂. I know a lot of people swear by maxima but I absolutely hate it.
Coming from a guy who was purely salt water for the first 25 years of my life. I cannot begin to explain how helpful your videos are. Allot of time salt and fresh or even brackish fishing can all be so different that. So having this as reference is so valuable. Great test overall and I appreciate your desire for the most consistent data when testing. There’s so many die hard fans of different brands in the fishing game so having a none biased collection of data is also much appreciated.
Dude! I been wondering what the heck happened to you; you've been MIA for longer than I think you ever have. I was beginning to think the worse. But now I see what you've been up to. Glad you are ok, and back doing what you do. Great job on this test. I haven't seen anyone that puts as much work in and shows as much passion about bass fishing as you do. You are the man!
TIME FOR A MONO COMPARISON TEST? This was such a fantastic, well thought out Video. I watched it several times. With such a huge variety of mono brands and types, it could be daunting to test a lot of 'em. But it could be WELL worth it. All of the tests I see are with just 4 or 5 brands/types side by side. but to have 29 flouros in direct comparison?? and tested so thoroughly? that's what made this video so compelling. Great work!
To develop a more significant number for your power index, you need to use the radius squared, since that gives the cross sectional area and the actual strength. To use only the diameter gives an advantage in strength to any oversized line.
This vid will get you a lot of views over the years. I’d love to see the top 4 of these flouros (per cost) go against 4 copolys. P-Line CXX, Gamma High Performance, Sunline Shooter Defier and Maxima Ultragreen. I’ll always choose copoly over flouro. I have more faith in it after it’s been fished and stretched a lot. I can’t afford to replace flouro regularly. That would also be a good test to repeatedly stress test a line with more poundage pulled and released each time it’s stretched to see when it shatters.
I swore off flouro awhile back for the same reasons been using “Masons line” it’s more popular in the north but has kind of a cult following here in the south. I don’t think many people know about it round here. However I’ve been on a run of not keeping fish pinned lately so thinking bout giving flouro anther try. That and I’m fishing a clear lake a lot lately.
Love the video, im sticking with berkley vanish, been using it for years, very cheap, and is surprisingly durable, I was sold when I hooked a seven pounder on a jerkbait, and was using only 10 lb vanish, and that fish wrapped me all up in a tree, and was able to get that fish out, since that day I have trusted it.
I'm an avid user of Berkley Vanish, and based on the results of the testing, I see no reason to change! It not only scored very highly in both the overall and price categories, it's usually the cheapest fluoro on the rack at Academy or Walmart. I've been using it for years and have always liked it.
Vanish rots away faster than any other fluoro I have ever used. After 3-5 uses you have to change out the line. I’ve switched to Sunline Sniper, and this stuff lasts 10+ uses. I used to be an avid Vanish user myself. I just never even attempted to try a more expensive fluoro. Now I see why it’s more expensive.
@@MrNateRich I guess different guys have different results. I have never had that problem, and as a TH-cam angler, I go fishing 4-5 times a week. My line has lasted me many months and tens of thousands of casts in most cases, fishing the thickest slop and brush.
i never use 20 lbs fluoro so idk about vanish but the lower sizes like 8 10 and 12 vanish broke off A LOT in my personal experience so i quit using it.
I use vanish for saltwater fishing and I like it. I've pulled many fish out of the rocks and coral. One time about 30 yards before I got the fish free. I found out I really need to lubricate the line well before cinching the knots and I need to tie the knot perfect but I guess that's the case with any line. I also change the line after a big catch but I've always done that, even with mono. Not at the beach but when I get home.
I don't have experience with the standard vanish flouro, but I found their vanish flouro leader line to be way overpriced and underperformed compared stren and seguar
Very impressive and scientifically unbiased testing. Thank you so much for all your time, effort, and money spent on this. I’ll be buying something from your store as a way to express my appreciation. And I’ll be getting some SPRO line soon too.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into testing and have a question. If you tested a different test line, say 12 lb, would the test results remain similar or change?
I been fishing for 65 year's an I use ANDE line 4lb an 6lb nothing else. all my friends use por line 50 lb test. that fishing line is like casting rope. my brother always uses his rope line and I tell him you are going to make the hook straight and lose the fish.
What is your largest fish on 4 and on 6# test. And your brother’s biggest. This is an opportunity for you to show many anglers they are using a much too heavy line. Thanks. Oh I’ve been chasing fish for 62 years. I throw crankbaits on 6 or 8# P-Line mono. I’ve caught giant fish on 6# line. Yes I lose a few giant fish and crankbaits but it’s a pleasure to use spinning gear and 6# to fish crankbaits. It can be hard work but so fishy.
@waynejansen1221 4 pound I got a 6 1/2 pound small mouth bass. on my 6 pound test line I got 20 pound pike in a dam in Woodstock Ontario canada in 1976.
Dude, the amount of time performing these tests and then if you also edit this video all on your own…that is crazy! Great video and awesome info. Always enjoy your content! 👌🏼
That was top shelf content. You've raised the bar with that test and sharing the results with us. I hope your video gets the ton of viewings that it deserves. Those were great tests. Thanks for all you do.
Fantastic video my friend. I remember years ago that Trilene claimed that their 10 lbs test was the strongest when the IGFA measured their line it was actually 12 lb test packaged as 10 lb.
Tyler, this is BY FAR the best, most informative video I've seen on TH-cam! Thank you. Having said that, and partly because of a couple of the results you found, would you please do this same test with a few monofilament brands (personally interested in how Trilene XT & XL would do) and then compare that with the fluorocarbon results? I haven't exactly bought in on fluro's dominance over mono and would love to see this test comparison. Thanks again for an amazing video.
I subscribed to your channel.😮 Look, I fish in the Swamp and marsh grass in South Mississippi. I'm kinda new to florocarbon line, because in the past it would break at the knot. I was used to power pro for my Buzzbaits and Frawgs and yes, we call em Frawgs down here 😅😂🤣😎🎣👍. Anyway, after watching Brent Ehrler tie a double uni for florocarbon line. Mono feels like fishing with a rubber band!!!😂 I have mixed emotions about what florocarbon to use. Best test I've ever seen!!!😎🎣👍 I still use Berkley big game on one med/heavy rod for walking and topwater baits, Spooks, tiny torpedoes, popr's, exc, because it a floating line and the best for those kinda baits. Thanks a bunch for the time you spent doing these test. You are now right up there with my favorite fishermen. Stay Safe and GOD Bless Brother 🙏🕊😎🎣👍
I’d love to see the full results list so I can compare the other brands I usually use. BTW, all your content is great, and this kinda is stuff is yet another reason I stay subscribed. Great info!
Hell of a video that speaks to the power of marketing, branding, and how rife we can be with confirmation bias. Abrazx struggling with abrasion resistance :chef’s kiss: Awesome as always.
Well which line has the best rebound? Meaning... After the stretch test, how did they do when the tension was released? Did they return back to the starting length or did they remain stretched out? I think that test would be a good representation of durability. BTW... Thank you so much for taking on such a task like this. It really does help us all come to a better conclusion.
Very good point, it seems to me that a lot of fluoros don’t spring back as well as mono, which gets a bad rap way too often and Not rightfully so in many case. It feels like most monos spring back and are just fine after a stretch, while fluoro springs back much less and as a result is weakened to a greater degree
That would be a component of their Memory. Line with higher memory would be more likely to return to its original length and condition. So a line with a high Memory component is not necessarily a bad thing, just means you need to unspool it and tension it before a fishing trip if you intend casting a lot.
Instead of gushing about how awesome this video was - and it was - I’m just thinking that this must have been such a fun project to envision, design, modify, and implement to achieve your results. Bravo, well done, and it was indeed, a great one!!
Damn dude, I work in the testing group at my company (Siemens) and this was extremely well done. No opportunities were given to ruin the data... for example, taking 5 measurements for each line diameter.
I've been throwing different lines almost every day straight for 5 years and I can highly recommend Zebco 10lb mono, 700 YDS for less than 3.00 if you're in a pinch.
As a 25 yr blue water tuna and marlin fisherman I can tell you crimps are a like tungsten bullet weights - that’s pretty much all that is used with line test 60 lb and over. Once you learn to crimp correctly you’ll never break a connector. The line always breaks first
Good vid. One thing I would say is, if your knot is breaking before your line then you are trying the wrong knot or tying it wrong. I may break at the knot once every 2 years with the good old fashioned Trilene knot.
Years ago, or maybe it was years and years ago, there was a show on TV where each week the guys tied and tested a fishing knot as a segment on the show, and then at the end of the season they gave out an award for the strongest knot, if I'm remembering correctly. They tested both commonly known knots and viewer submitted knots. Very interesting, but I like your presentation better as it compresses the time from months to, well, 18 minutes. Nice. I have a knot that I guess I invented (seems unlikely) as I have never seen it tied by anyone but myself, so I have never seen it tested, either. Your set-up seems pretty simple so maybe I will finally get around to testing it myself -- I have used this knot for 50 years or more and never had a breakoff that was the fault of the knot...at least not that I could tell. I have used it from 2# mono up to 70# braid, and everything in between. If done right it is self aligning, which is pretty cool. I have used it to catch everything from sunfish to salmon and sturgeon with nary a breakoff. One time, when fishing light trout gear for whitefish in the north branch of the Cowlitz River, I hooked into a big salmon (most likely) or steelhead and, when it realized it was hooked, it headed down stream as they are likely to do. I tried to follow but couldn't because of the terrain, so I decide to break'um off -- couldn't do it and the devil stripped all the line to the spool knot, which is where it finally broke off. I feel sorry for that fish having to drag all the line around. I subscribed!
I used Yozuri T7 last year and I was impressed by it's attributes. Snagged some 16lb from the bank and didn't think I was going to break it. It scored well in your tests also. Good video! Hard to decide about line choice with everyone pushing their sponsors products!
Tyler! Another Grand Slam Video! I have been following you since the beginning and your videos have helped me truly grow and develop as bass angler. Before every Tuesday night bass club tournament, Im in my boat with one of your videos up tying on lures based on your advice and instruction. Thank you so much!!!!!!! Ever considered making a video like this on fishing etiquette? Our club has gone from 16-18 boats to 40+ post Covid and most of the new guys are terrible about following rules and fishing etiquette. Leads to a lot of conflict. Would love to see you use your influence to teach that important part of boating and fishing safety.
This is a great comparison and very well done. As a newer angler who is actually buying their own gear while learning on the fly, I don’t think that I’ve seen as though a test as this. Thanks for making the charts and doing all of this work.
Dude the difference in views on your last 3 huge project videos versus the videos before those is DRAMATIC. You've been crushing it! Think I need to put some time in on big project videos myself.
Time well spent! A lot of time and money was spent to show us men and women what We could never have known without your test. Well done! I thought like any other person that we all have our favorites and that's good enough for what we do, but the next time I go to buy line I will be a lot wiser on My choices and none the less I can now help someone else that might not know the difference. Keep up the great content! You have earned another subscription! Thank You for your time may your line stay tight! 👍👍👍👍👍
My grandpa is almost in his 80’s and only uses Maxima and always has. It’s cool to the tests work out to see Maxima is a top contender. I’ve always liked P-Line. But damn I might have to go back to Maxima now.
This was by far the best Fishing video I’ve ever seen or come across!!! Bravo 🙌 this was extreme and over the top!! This should be the number video of all time! Thanks for doing this and taking the time to do this for all us fisherman!! Seriously thank you thank you thank you!!!
My friend, your dedication to finding the best for fishing whether it's equipment or the bass themselves is really eye opening! In my opinion that's what set's you apart from everyone else is the work you are willing to put into your craft and willingness to share your findings with us! Keep up the AWESOME work you are doing!!!!!!
This is hands down, by far, without a doubt the most in depth video I've seen! Thank your for spending the money, time, and energy to put this together, sir. If you're able to, would you be willing to do braid and monofilament in the future?
Man Oh Man what a GREAT, Thorough,Complex, Testing Experiment. Much respect from this 68 year old NEW to Bass Fishing [Fly Fisherman] Fisherman. I just bought Seaguar . Maybe I should have waited and watched Your Tests?
The design of your testing methodology is very practical and maintains objectivity. Thank You for your dedication. My only recommendation would be to change your "power index" to "tensile strength" which is normalized for cross sectional area. Thicker diameter lines need to be "punished" in a more accurate fashion given the squared relationship between radius and cross sectional area. Tensile strength is the established method of defining the strength of a material irrespective of the amount of the material being tested and in the case of fishing lines the thickness or diameter. Ultimately the tensile strength of a fishing line will be the same if you are testing 6lb test or 30lb test. Using your data, Yo-Zuri = 94.897 kg/mm2, Tuff Line = 67.489 kg/mm2, and Spro = 103.357 kg/mm2. Back a million years ago I was retained to test lines for Pure Fishing, Triple Fish, P-Line and a few others. Spro at 103.357kg/mm2 is quite impressive. anything over 100kg/mm2 is very good. The best copolymer lines yielded results approaching 120kg/mm2. Nice Work and thanks again. I will send you an excel spreadsheet to make life really easy to convert your data.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into testing. Lots of good information thank you very much for doing this video .Here in my home patch The River Spey in Scotland most anglers either hate or love flourocabon line its about 50% either way .The old school boys love Maxima Chameleon .
Wow! Thank you for going through the trouble and expense to determine the best line. I quit using Fluorocarbon line after having it break at the spool of my reel. After a cast I pulled out a few inches and discovered that the line had broken at the spool. This was new Seaguar Invis and it has happened three times.
Been fishing my whole life for perch up to salmon and I have found that if you utilize your drag and play the fish [seaguar fluorocarbon leader > to > berkley trilene xl fluorescent clear/blue] will never fail you. I managed to land a 20lb king on 6lb xl mono after a 2 hour fight. After that, its all I use.
I know I have said this before in one of your videos, but dude, I truly appreciate the "above and beyond" analysis you do to help us (average Joes) to learn fishing and all that is related. you are the dam! 👍
Incredible amount of time you invested in this comparison and I don't disagree with any of it so thank you...but, the problem I have is fluorocarbon shock strength(using it as a 10' leader). My knots(double pitzen and Melvin island special) aren't failing but the flo( Vanish 10lb)which was one of the top performers is snapping during casting and also seems to break off easier when snagged. Just this week I changed back to Yozuri Hybrid, I did get snagged while on the river smallmouth fishing but it took a LOT more force to break the line, I had to wrap it around the reel handle to keep from cutting into my hand. I did not have one single break while casting. Last summer I was using a different kind of flo and had the same problems with zinging chatterbaits into the trees. I'm getting the idea flo has a weak shock strength at least when compared to Yozuri Hybrid, pretty tough to test shock.
Really great video! Keep doing comparison videos like this and you'll recoup the cost and then some. Fisherman want to know this stuff but dont have the means to do the test ourselves. So we appreciate you being able to do this for us and save us some money.
Really really really good job with your testing, very in-depth and well-thought-out... Thanks again Ty you are the best channel on TH-cam hands down... In all aspects!!!
I'm truly amazed at the effort, energy and love you put in your videos. I'm a beginner to intermediate bass fisherman and your videos are the most helpful. Thank you very much! Gonna get a cap!!
Tyler, even here in the Netherlands is this one of the best video's I've ever seen on TH-cam!! Thanks man for sharing all this info and I'm gonna search if I can get this line here to! Greetings from the Netherlands and bless you man, Pat. 👊🏼👍🏼🎣🎣🎣🤘🏼🇳🇱
I really enjoyed the video. Would be interesting to see the abrasion resistance and strength after they are in the sun and wet for a few weeks. I bet some numbers would change alot.
Regarding your test of line strength, I found it interesting to observe the disformed line that existed just after a break. It reminded be that fluoro line gets significantly damaged (weakened) every time it is stretched - the "taffy effect" as opposed to the "elastic effect" of mono.
Tyler, kudos for all the hard work that you did on all these test! This was a really valuable study that you took the time to painstakingly do it right. God bless!
This was an awesome test. Thank you for thinking about us little guys with smaller budgets so much. You are very in depth and devoted to the love of fishing. Very impressive results.
Great informative video. I would love to see more detail of the other higher rated lines especially at the lower price point. For instance, Vanish gets trashed on every review i have ever seen but it actually tested fairly high on your list? The other metric I would love to see is how do these lines perform after a whole season? This is probably the biggest difference between us weekend fisherman and pros. Most regular people replace line maybe once a year!
Awesome...Awesome job! I don't even want to know how much time was invested in doing this test!! Oh my! Changed my line & mind! Thanks for your help...and TIME!!
Awesome test! After watching Salt Strong do mono vs flouro tests, I've pretty much abandoned flouro for the type of fishing I do. However if I was big on fishing crankbaits, I'd have flouro spooled.
Best video I’ve seen on TH-cam this year. I would love to see how 20lb Big Game measures up to these lines. I’ve heard many tournament anglers say it has about the same stretch as fluorocarbon but with much better abrasion resistance.
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specrtacular video, hopingg you can get sportsmans outfitters to put that linee baCK UP, the link goes to a 404 error.
where can you find the spro line?
You should of got line from korda or ridgemonkey they sell in the USA now
It is crazy the impact this video is having. No one has stock left. I hope you have a good long discussion with spro after this. You pretty much showed them the power of a solid TH-cam video. Very cool!
Best is subjective. Flouro sinks like a brick. Sometimes you need something of neutral buoyancy or even floating. Perhaps you should have said the best bass fishing line. Or best lure fishing line. Or best flourocarbon line. Good video though. You earned the like.
First of all I am a retired engineering teacher with 38 years of teaching experience. I commend you on your efforts. I ran many similar tests many times with my students under very strict conditions. Your testing conditions and testing methods were interesting without the use of expensive testing equipment. I wish I was still teaching so I could show my students your video. Nice job and thanks for sharing your experiment.
It’s all about passing the buck in the end, I learned that from Ferris Beuler’s teacher
This was an insanely well put together video and test. Seriously enjoyed it, thank you!
Yeooooo what’s good Jon B. ❤
Thanks dude, means a lot coming from you!
This was something I've been curious about since getting into fishing (through both you Jon and this channel); it's great to see the engagement as it allows me to feel as if I've made the correct choice in educational, but fun, content
16:36 “SCREENSHOT” 😊 E: BUT WATCH THE VID OF COURSE 😅
How much do you get paid to say this?
Please do braided line next!! We will be forever grateful 🙏
Japanese J braid is very good I run 60lbs on the Mississippi and Missouri River for monster catfish in wicked current I started with spider wire before they became junk now but that J braid is good stuff on fresh water idk about salt
I'm a big fan of Project Farm and his unbiased tests. This was definitely up there with his quality. Thanks for the video.
Love that show too 👍
Right, I've started watching all of this channels cast videos. Very well thought through and very project farm. I like to see him do one for monofilament
I haven't even finished this video but Tyler I love how in depth you go with these videos. The last couple you have made have been off the charts incredible. Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you for the kind words!
Agreed
Without doubt the most thorough and complete line test ever done. Lots of line test videos out there but yours's was the ONLY one that I have ever seen that tested for line memory which is IMO hugely important as I use spin casting reels as much as bait casting reels and as a matter of fact my sons use spinning reels more and I own 2x as many spinning reel set ups as bait casters and memory is at times a very major problem.
Dude, the amount of dedication you had to this video, serious respect. I’m three minutes in and I can’t wait for the end result. Thank you for all the hard work to save more anglers time and money! 💪🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻
I love the project farm layout. Thank you for taking the time to come up with, perform these tests, and sharing the information
That was absolutely one of the best and most informative videos I have seen on TH-cam in a long time. Thanks for the great effort that you put into this.
Heck yea!
Really well done. I love how you broke down everything and used so many brands. I wonder if some brands have better high lb like 20 while some of the lower weights 12-16lb they might be better. I've noticed on tackle wharehouse that the diameter doesn't go down in size in the same increments as the lbs would indicate. Great video and good choice of graphics.
Mono test, then a mono-fc comparison analysis. I notice the Gouken is out of stock lots of places.
I used to run an engineering test lab for a major manufacturing company. Well done! Respect!
so this is what you’ve been working on for so long, makes complete sense now lol. your dedication to this channel is truly amazing Tyler, love the content and information you are consistently sharing!!
Great series of tests! I would have liked to see a comparative test of knot strength included. The line strength has little significance if it continuously fails at the knot, which ultimately determines the overall strength of the line.
This video was incredible!! You should repeat it with braid and mono now that you have the equipment for the testing
Best mono ive fiund is the suffix elite
Berkeley triline 17lb for me
Hey GandO. Jon did the heavy lifting here for all of his fans. You should try mono. Then Fluoro. It’s important work but the show Jon did with knot strength is a video masterpiece. Thanks again
@@mrs.vasquezzsame here. It’s the only mono I use anymore. Plus the way they wind it perfectly is just 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼 so satisfying 😂. I know a lot of people swear by maxima but I absolutely hate it.
Coming from a guy who was purely salt water for the first 25 years of my life. I cannot begin to explain how helpful your videos are. Allot of time salt and fresh or even brackish fishing can all be so different that. So having this as reference is so valuable. Great test overall and I appreciate your desire for the most consistent data when testing. There’s so many die hard fans of different brands in the fishing game so having a none biased collection of data is also much appreciated.
Dude! I been wondering what the heck happened to you; you've been MIA for longer than I think you ever have. I was beginning to think the worse. But now I see what you've been up to. Glad you are ok, and back doing what you do. Great job on this test. I haven't seen anyone that puts as much work in and shows as much passion about bass fishing as you do. You are the man!
Yea I was MIA for a while, this video had so many setbacks but I committed to getting it done! Thanks for watching!
TIME FOR A MONO COMPARISON TEST? This was such a fantastic, well thought out Video. I watched it several times. With such a huge variety of mono brands and types, it could be daunting to test a lot of 'em. But it could be WELL worth it. All of the tests I see are with just 4 or 5 brands/types side by side. but to have 29 flouros in direct comparison?? and tested so thoroughly? that's what made this video so compelling. Great work!
Is the spreadsheet available on your website? I’d like to see how you weighted the tests. The results might vary with conditions-driven priorities.
I’d love to see it too
To develop a more significant number for your power index, you need to use the radius squared, since that gives the cross sectional area and the actual strength. To use only the diameter gives an advantage in strength to any oversized line.
You're right. Maths is so sneaky. ;)
This is incredible. Great testing methods as far as consistency. Really appreciate the time you put into this one.
Thanks Chris, I appreciate that!
So this is what you have been doing. What great information. Thank you for all your hard work and hours spent doing these tests. I learned a lot!
This vid will get you a lot of views over the years. I’d love to see the top 4 of these flouros (per cost) go against 4 copolys. P-Line CXX, Gamma High Performance, Sunline Shooter Defier and Maxima Ultragreen. I’ll always choose copoly over flouro. I have more faith in it after it’s been fished and stretched a lot. I can’t afford to replace flouro regularly. That would also be a good test to repeatedly stress test a line with more poundage pulled and released each time it’s stretched to see when it shatters.
Add Suffix Advance Copolymer and Yozuri Hybrid to the this list for testing.
I swore off flouro awhile back for the same reasons been using “Masons line” it’s more popular in the north but has kind of a cult following here in the south. I don’t think many people know about it round here. However I’ve been on a run of not keeping fish pinned lately so thinking bout giving flouro anther try. That and I’m fishing a clear lake a lot lately.
Love the video, im sticking with berkley vanish, been using it for years, very cheap, and is surprisingly durable, I was sold when I hooked a seven pounder on a jerkbait, and was using only 10 lb vanish, and that fish wrapped me all up in a tree, and was able to get that fish out, since that day I have trusted it.
... Agree ,, I also have had good results with VANISH as my go to Fluoro for many years ,, since it came out ...
I'm an avid user of Berkley Vanish, and based on the results of the testing, I see no reason to change! It not only scored very highly in both the overall and price categories, it's usually the cheapest fluoro on the rack at Academy or Walmart. I've been using it for years and have always liked it.
Vanish rots away faster than any other fluoro I have ever used. After 3-5 uses you have to change out the line. I’ve switched to Sunline Sniper, and this stuff lasts 10+ uses. I used to be an avid Vanish user myself. I just never even attempted to try a more expensive fluoro. Now I see why it’s more expensive.
@@MrNateRich I guess different guys have different results. I have never had that problem, and as a TH-cam angler, I go fishing 4-5 times a week. My line has lasted me many months and tens of thousands of casts in most cases, fishing the thickest slop and brush.
i never use 20 lbs fluoro so idk about vanish but the lower sizes like 8 10 and 12 vanish broke off A LOT in my personal experience so i quit using it.
I use vanish for saltwater fishing and I like it. I've pulled many fish out of the rocks and coral. One time about 30 yards before I got the fish free. I found out I really need to lubricate the line well before cinching the knots and I need to tie the knot perfect but I guess that's the case with any line. I also change the line after a big catch but I've always done that, even with mono. Not at the beach but when I get home.
I don't have experience with the standard vanish flouro, but I found their vanish flouro leader line to be way overpriced and underperformed compared stren and seguar
Very impressive and scientifically unbiased testing. Thank you so much for all your time, effort, and money spent on this. I’ll be buying something from your store as a way to express my appreciation. And I’ll be getting some SPRO line soon too.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into testing and have a question. If you tested a different test line, say 12 lb, would the test results remain similar or change?
This is exactly what we need as anglers
A better in depth understanding of our basic equipment. This video knocks it out of the park again.
great video but you probably should have showed the top ten and broken down the scores.
I been fishing for 65 year's an I use ANDE line 4lb an 6lb nothing else. all my friends use por line 50 lb test. that fishing line is like casting rope. my brother always uses his rope line and I tell him you are going to make the hook straight and lose the fish.
What is your largest fish on 4 and on 6# test. And your brother’s biggest. This is an opportunity for you to show many anglers they are using a much too heavy line. Thanks.
Oh I’ve been chasing fish for 62 years. I throw crankbaits on 6 or 8# P-Line mono. I’ve caught giant fish on 6# line. Yes I lose a few giant fish and crankbaits but it’s a pleasure to use spinning gear and 6# to fish crankbaits. It can be hard work but so fishy.
@waynejansen1221 4 pound I got a 6 1/2 pound small mouth bass. on my 6 pound test line I got 20 pound pike in a dam in Woodstock Ontario canada in 1976.
I've only used a couple different kinds but Suffix 832 braided line in low-vis green has never let me down
Dude, the amount of time performing these tests and then if you also edit this video all on your own…that is crazy! Great video and awesome info. Always enjoy your content! 👌🏼
... Agree,, Crazy time and cost ... Man needs to get a hobby .... MAYBE FISHING ...
That was top shelf content. You've raised the bar with that test and sharing the results with us. I hope your video gets the ton of viewings that it deserves. Those were great tests. Thanks for all you do.
Fantastic video my friend. I remember years ago that Trilene claimed that their 10 lbs test was the strongest when the IGFA measured their line it was actually 12 lb test packaged as 10 lb.
Tyler, this is BY FAR the best, most informative video I've seen on TH-cam! Thank you.
Having said that, and partly because of a couple of the results you found, would you please do this same test with a few monofilament brands (personally interested in how Trilene XT & XL would do) and then compare that with the fluorocarbon results? I haven't exactly bought in on fluro's dominance over mono and would love to see this test comparison.
Thanks again for an amazing video.
Trilene big game is the best overall mono period
@@damnitman1969 how is it with memory?
@@mattnolan6979 five outta ten
I subscribed to your channel.😮 Look, I fish in the Swamp and marsh grass in South Mississippi. I'm kinda new to florocarbon line, because in the past it would break at the knot. I was used to power pro for my Buzzbaits and Frawgs and yes, we call em Frawgs down here 😅😂🤣😎🎣👍. Anyway, after watching Brent Ehrler tie a double uni for florocarbon line. Mono feels like fishing with a rubber band!!!😂 I have mixed emotions about what florocarbon to use. Best test I've ever seen!!!😎🎣👍 I still use Berkley big game on one med/heavy rod for walking and topwater baits,
Spooks, tiny torpedoes, popr's, exc, because it a floating line and the best for those kinda baits. Thanks a bunch for the time you spent doing these test. You are now right up there with my favorite fishermen. Stay Safe and GOD Bless Brother 🙏🕊😎🎣👍
I’d love to see the full results list so I can compare the other brands I usually use. BTW, all your content is great, and this kinda is stuff is yet another reason I stay subscribed. Great info!
Yes, it would be great if he left a link to a Google doc with all the results.
Full results are shown at the end
@@BassFishingHQ 16:40
Hell of a video that speaks to the power of marketing, branding, and how rife we can be with confirmation bias.
Abrazx struggling with abrasion resistance :chef’s kiss:
Awesome as always.
This is awesome. Would love to see the same tests with monofilaments.
The price isn't very different. There isn't a ton of expensive mono....
Big fan of both the Vanish and the Kastking. These results are very encouraging. Thanks a bunch.
Coming from an engineer, I love the process and different tests you went through. Thank you and good shit my man!!!
Vanish killed it. Great job Berkeley
Well which line has the best rebound? Meaning... After the stretch test, how did they do when the tension was released? Did they return back to the starting length or did they remain stretched out? I think that test would be a good representation of durability. BTW... Thank you so much for taking on such a task like this. It really does help us all come to a better conclusion.
Very good point, it seems to me that a lot of fluoros don’t spring back as well as mono, which gets a bad rap way too often and Not rightfully so in many case. It feels like most monos spring back and are just fine after a stretch, while fluoro springs back much less and as a result is weakened to a greater degree
That would be a component of their Memory. Line with higher memory would be more likely to return to its original length and condition. So a line with a high Memory component is not necessarily a bad thing, just means you need to unspool it and tension it before a fishing trip if you intend casting a lot.
@@tinkertailor7385 Memory and rebound are two totally different things. I'm going to have to disagree with you.
Instead of gushing about how awesome this video was - and it was - I’m just thinking that this must have been such a fun project to envision, design, modify, and implement to achieve your results. Bravo, well done, and it was indeed, a great one!!
This is like if project farm did the testing. What a great job man, thanks.
Damn dude, I work in the testing group at my company (Siemens) and this was extremely well done. No opportunities were given to ruin the data... for example, taking 5 measurements for each line diameter.
Prepare for Spro FC to go out of stock everywhere in 3…2….1…..
Have you found anywhere where they have it in stock yet?
I've been throwing different lines almost every day straight for 5 years and I can highly recommend Zebco 10lb mono, 700 YDS for less than 3.00 if you're in a pinch.
Broken link for 'best fishing line'.
As a 25 yr blue water tuna and marlin fisherman I can tell you crimps are a like tungsten bullet weights - that’s pretty much all that is used with line test 60 lb and over. Once you learn to crimp correctly you’ll never break a connector. The line always breaks first
Absolutely great research on everything and collecting the data . All around great job . Most line companies do their own test with no comparison
Good vid. One thing I would say is, if your knot is breaking before your line then you are trying the wrong knot or tying it wrong. I may break at the knot once every 2 years with the good old fashioned Trilene knot.
Years ago, or maybe it was years and years ago, there was a show on TV where each week the guys tied and tested a fishing knot as a segment on the show, and then at the end of the season they gave out an award for the strongest knot, if I'm remembering correctly. They tested both commonly known knots and viewer submitted knots. Very interesting, but I like your presentation better as it compresses the time from months to, well, 18 minutes. Nice.
I have a knot that I guess I invented (seems unlikely) as I have never seen it tied by anyone but myself, so I have never seen it tested, either. Your set-up seems pretty simple so maybe I will finally get around to testing it myself -- I have used this knot for 50 years or more and never had a breakoff that was the fault of the knot...at least not that I could tell. I have used it from 2# mono up to 70# braid, and everything in between. If done right it is self aligning, which is pretty cool. I have used it to catch everything from sunfish to salmon and sturgeon with nary a breakoff. One time, when fishing light trout gear for whitefish in the north branch of the Cowlitz River, I hooked into a big salmon (most likely) or steelhead and, when it realized it was hooked, it headed down stream as they are likely to do. I tried to follow but couldn't because of the terrain, so I decide to break'um off -- couldn't do it and the devil stripped all the line to the spool knot, which is where it finally broke off. I feel sorry for that fish having to drag all the line around. I subscribed!
I used Yozuri T7 last year and I was impressed by it's attributes. Snagged some 16lb from the bank and didn't think I was going to break it. It scored well in your tests also. Good video! Hard to decide about line choice with everyone pushing their sponsors products!
Tyler! Another Grand Slam Video! I have been following you since the beginning and your videos have helped me truly grow and develop as bass angler. Before every Tuesday night bass club tournament, Im in my boat with one of your videos up tying on lures based on your advice and instruction. Thank you so much!!!!!!!
Ever considered making a video like this on fishing etiquette? Our club has gone from 16-18 boats to 40+ post Covid and most of the new guys are terrible about following rules and fishing etiquette. Leads to a lot of conflict. Would love to see you use your influence to teach that important part of boating and fishing safety.
This is a great comparison and very well done. As a newer angler who is actually buying their own gear while learning on the fly, I don’t think that I’ve seen as though a test as this. Thanks for making the charts and doing all of this work.
I appreciate your efforts in teaching through TH-cam. I’ve been learning so much from you.
So many positive responses. Incredible! Thank you for your efforts. You affected the fishing World. That’s a BIG BIG 👍 and I must say THSNK YOU!
Dude the difference in views on your last 3 huge project videos versus the videos before those is DRAMATIC. You've been crushing it! Think I need to put some time in on big project videos myself.
Thanks man, I have switched some things up. I am just trying to make the best videos I can
Time well spent! A lot of time and money was spent to show us men and women what We could never have known without your test. Well done! I thought like any other person that we all have our favorites and that's good enough for what we do, but the next time I go to buy line I will be a lot wiser on My choices and none the less I can now help someone else that might not know the difference. Keep up the great content! You have earned another subscription! Thank You for your time may your line stay tight! 👍👍👍👍👍
My grandpa is almost in his 80’s and only uses Maxima and always has. It’s cool to the tests work out to see Maxima is a top contender. I’ve always liked P-Line. But damn I might have to go back to Maxima now.
This was by far the best Fishing video I’ve ever seen or come across!!! Bravo 🙌 this was extreme and over the top!! This should be the number video of all time! Thanks for doing this and taking the time to do this for all us fisherman!! Seriously thank you thank you thank you!!!
My friend, your dedication to finding the best for fishing whether it's equipment or the bass themselves is really eye opening! In my opinion that's what set's you apart from everyone else is the work you are willing to put into your craft and willingness to share your findings with us! Keep up the AWESOME work you are doing!!!!!!
This is hands down, by far, without a doubt the most in depth video I've seen! Thank your for spending the money, time, and energy to put this together, sir. If you're able to, would you be willing to do braid and monofilament in the future?
Completely changed how I look at my line choices now. Excellent video. Please keep up the great work.
Man Oh Man what a GREAT, Thorough,Complex, Testing Experiment. Much respect from this 68 year old NEW to Bass Fishing [Fly Fisherman] Fisherman. I just bought Seaguar . Maybe I should have waited and watched Your Tests?
The design of your testing methodology is very practical and maintains objectivity. Thank You for your dedication. My only recommendation would be to change your "power index" to "tensile strength" which is normalized for cross sectional area. Thicker diameter lines need to be "punished" in a more accurate fashion given the squared relationship between radius and cross sectional area. Tensile strength is the established method of defining the strength of a material irrespective of the amount of the material being tested and in the case of fishing lines the thickness or diameter. Ultimately the tensile strength of a fishing line will be the same if you are testing 6lb test or 30lb test. Using your data, Yo-Zuri = 94.897 kg/mm2, Tuff Line = 67.489 kg/mm2, and Spro = 103.357 kg/mm2. Back a million years ago I was retained to test lines for Pure Fishing, Triple Fish, P-Line and a few others. Spro at 103.357kg/mm2 is quite impressive. anything over 100kg/mm2 is very good. The best copolymer lines yielded results approaching 120kg/mm2. Nice Work and thanks again. I will send you an excel spreadsheet to make life really easy to convert your data.
Thanks for taking the time to do these test. Good stuff. Test done by the people.
Man thank you for this. It’s good that this can hold some of the companies accountable for being non-transparent in marketing.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into testing. Lots of good information thank you very much for doing this video .Here in my home patch The River Spey in Scotland most anglers either hate or love flourocabon line its about 50% either way .The old school boys love Maxima Chameleon .
I've been fishing vanish for years and just love it . I also spray it with reel snot.
I really enjoy these technical videos you produce. I’d much rather watch this style of video than bait videos. Keep up the great work!
Wow! Thank you for going through the trouble and expense to determine the best line. I quit using Fluorocarbon line after having it break at the spool of my reel. After a cast I pulled out a few inches and discovered that the line had broken at the spool. This was new Seaguar Invis and it has happened three times.
This is one of the best bass fishing videos I’ve ever seen. Thank you very much for this video
I'd love to see a video like this for braid. Tend to fish a lot of heavy cover with braid and I use castking.
Been fishing my whole life for perch up to salmon and I have found that if you utilize your drag and play the fish [seaguar fluorocarbon leader > to > berkley trilene xl fluorescent clear/blue] will never fail you. I managed to land a 20lb king on 6lb xl mono after a 2 hour fight. After that, its all I use.
Ok, so the format of your knot vids is Awesome. I like that you incorporate fishing footage as well as easily understandable data.
Best video I've watched in all my years of fishing,thank you
Ok. This is the video that made me subscribe. Very impressed and thanks for the work into this.
You got my respect for doing it real fast and not just selling us a product. You also earned a subscriber.
Great info here....thank you so much for putting up the stats throughout and treating it so methodically. Very much appreciated!
I know I have said this before in one of your videos, but dude, I truly appreciate the "above and beyond" analysis you do to help us (average Joes) to learn fishing and all that is related. you are the dam! 👍
Incredible amount of time you invested in this comparison and I don't disagree with any of it so thank you...but, the problem I have is fluorocarbon shock strength(using it as a 10' leader). My knots(double pitzen and Melvin island special) aren't failing but the flo( Vanish 10lb)which was one of the top performers is snapping during casting and also seems to break off easier when snagged. Just this week I changed back to Yozuri Hybrid, I did get snagged while on the river smallmouth fishing but it took a LOT more force to break the line, I had to wrap it around the reel handle to keep from cutting into my hand. I did not have one single break while casting. Last summer I was using a different kind of flo and had the same problems with zinging chatterbaits into the trees. I'm getting the idea flo has a weak shock strength at least when compared to Yozuri Hybrid, pretty tough to test shock.
Excellent to the point and informative. We'll done. I'll be buying some merchandise as soon as I get back home to help cover your expenses.
Really great video! Keep doing comparison videos like this and you'll recoup the cost and then some. Fisherman want to know this stuff but dont have the means to do the test ourselves. So we appreciate you being able to do this for us and save us some money.
Didn't get to watch the end of the video until this morning. Great video. Thanks for the hard work and time you spent. Bring us more like this. 👍
Really really really good job with your testing, very in-depth and well-thought-out... Thanks again Ty you are the best channel on TH-cam hands down... In all aspects!!!
I'm truly amazed at the effort, energy and love you put in your videos. I'm a beginner to intermediate bass fisherman and your videos are the most helpful. Thank you very much! Gonna get a cap!!
Tyler, even here in the Netherlands is this one of the best video's I've ever seen on TH-cam!! Thanks man for sharing all this info and I'm gonna search if I can get this line here to!
Greetings from the Netherlands and bless you man, Pat.
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I really enjoyed the video. Would be interesting to see the abrasion resistance and strength after they are in the sun and wet for a few weeks. I bet some numbers would change alot.
Regarding your test of line strength, I found it interesting to observe the disformed line that existed just after a break. It reminded be that fluoro line gets significantly damaged (weakened) every time it is stretched - the "taffy effect" as opposed to the "elastic effect" of mono.
Tyler, kudos for all the hard work that you did on all these test! This was a really valuable study that you took the time to painstakingly do it right. God bless!
Consistently detailed, well thought out tests. Thoroughly enjoyed watching. It certainly changed my mind on what I will be using this year.
This was an awesome test. Thank you for thinking about us little guys with smaller budgets so much. You are very in depth and devoted to the love of fishing. Very impressive results.
So glad you are back! Amazing video. Hope to see another video soon. Thanks
Great stuff! We all really appreciate it. I for one would LOVE to eventually see a similar test with different braids!
Great information! But I'd suggest you also try Yozuri hybrid line I've found it is also a very good line!
Great informative video. I would love to see more detail of the other higher rated lines especially at the lower price point.
For instance, Vanish gets trashed on every review i have ever seen but it actually tested fairly high on your list? The other metric I would love to see is how do these lines perform after a whole season? This is probably the biggest difference between us weekend fisherman and pros. Most regular people replace line maybe once a year!
This is a valuable piece of work, well done Tyler!
Awesome...Awesome job! I don't even want to know how much time was invested in doing this test!! Oh my! Changed my line & mind! Thanks for your help...and TIME!!
Awesome test! After watching Salt Strong do mono vs flouro tests, I've pretty much abandoned flouro for the type of fishing I do. However if I was big on fishing crankbaits, I'd have flouro spooled.
Best video I’ve seen on TH-cam this year. I would love to see how 20lb Big Game measures up to these lines. I’ve heard many tournament anglers say it has about the same stretch as fluorocarbon but with much better abrasion resistance.