The Fastest 'Cheap' RC Car you can buy! Brushless WLToys 144001 Speed Build Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- NEW Brushless WLToys 124017 Now Available: bit.ly/3i6aufr
This Project may not be for the Worlds Fastest RC Car, but this WLToys 144001 has proven to be the fastest 'cheap' RC Car you can buy!
Stock 'Brushed' speeds are approx 30mph on 2s & 40mph on 3s.
0:00 Intro
12:22 Speed Run
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In this video I have teamed up with Banggood to build a Crazy Fast Brushless WLtoys 144001! This is Part one. In Part Two we go after my all time PB of 78mph!
The NEW WLtoys 124019 is here! A Long wheelbase (LWB) 144001. Worlds Fastest 144001 just got faster!
www.banggood.com/Wltoys-12401...
Also a NEW Wltoys 144001 Desert Truck (The WLtoys 124018)!
www.banggood.com/Wltoys-12401...
Summer Sale (watch reviews before you buy!) :
www.banggood.com/Wltoys-14400...
Buy the WLToys 144001 here( Coupon BG56RTH on the 2 battery version) :
www.banggood.com/Wltoys-14400...
Brushless Motor:
www.banggood.com/GTSKYTENRC-3...
ESC
Cheap Brushless 120A Esc *(the one I used):
www.banggood.com/TSKY-120A-11...
ESC that was to Big:
www.banggood.com/Surpass-Hobb...
Metal WLtoys 144001 Gears:
www.banggood.com/2Pcsset-Dece...
Fast Metal Gear micro Servo:
www.banggood.com/JX-Digital-S...
Wheels/Tyres:
Fronts:
www.makeitbuildit.co.uk/foam-...
Rears:
www.makeitbuildit.co.uk/foam-...
Body:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PHAT-BODIE...
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Hey man need some help a buddy told me to come here
Still subbed with both accounts to your channel. Is that spoiler the one i put you onto ??
Should have tried the old drag racers solution to running to hot..... Taken the bonnet off.... Would be interesting to see if running it shell less actually helps the cooling and if it would have wind resistance drag.....
I noticed a couldn’t find you today I was kicking in your channel and would take me somewhere else. I had to search for you today bud.
@@willdunn3594 good luck
@@mehimrc1314 Thx man
Not sure why this video was on my recommendations as I've never had an RC car or had any interest in them. I now want one of these for me and my son. Well done TH-cam algorithm 😂
Haha... maybe you mentioned some key words... the world is listening 👂🏻😎
Yt algorithm has its ways
I'd say get one, but be warned it's an addiction! 😂
Get one you won't regret it I'm trying to get back into it myself
Get a set of them it's much more fun when you have a set of them running vs alone. Your son well love rc never met a kid that didn't
144001 is da king!!
I really love this modification! Already hyped! Love man! 💙
Do it Tomley!
I believe in you!!!
Thanks dude lol
I did something similar to a 1/10th ECX 2wd Circuit. 5200kv, 120a esc, 15t pinion, on 3s. Better shocks, wheels/tires, servo and servo saver eliminator. What a blast it is to drive! SO much fun being able to power oversteer at will on tarmac, and crazy crazy power. The only enemy is heat. The motor gets HOT quickly if I'm not careful.
Awesome work! Looks great, hope it holds up!
Like the looks of the red body, wheels and tires! 👍😎
great video, thanks, planning on upgrading mine to brushless with the foam tyres, so this is really useful.
Love the build. It looks brilliant! The red Phat body and those wheels👍🏻. Can’t wait to see this on 3s and what esc you wedge in there. Also, I got the B1 diecast you sent me. Thank you so much Phil! Looking forward to part 2 of the 144001.
Cheers mate. Glad it arrived ok! I actually had 2 bodies for this, first one was green and black, but I didn’t like it... so went red to match the shocks and the motor 😎👍
Looking forward too!! 👍👍 , 3s,,
Excellent vid as always. Just ordered mine.
Sweet looking rig! Putting it on the list :)
Can’t wait to see you to do more with this. Great video 👍
Thanks Mate
Good speed! Good job with fitting everything,
Yeah... bit of a squeeze!
I just love all your videos!!!!! Keep up the great job.
Great vídeo 👌👏👌👍
Thank you
Well done sir, thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks Tony
Very good work bro!! Impressive results!! Wow runs amazing fast, Yeaah!! (Banggood) just big head Esc scare me!! Top like video!!
Good videos I like your honesty you cater for budget's
Just ordered one!!’ 🔥
Very impressed with that! Good vids thank you.
Thank you
That is a badass little rc
Oh wow great episode, good shout on the wheels thanks, Saludos
No worries mate
Every time you say Fiddle about’ you should cut to Keith Moon as Uncle Ernie in The Who rock opera Tommy! Fiddle About Fiddle About!!!!
I owe you an apology - sorry. You do discuss the difficulty getting screws out. And to be fair, if heat is applied with a torch long enough to cook the epoxy they have used with the screws, they do come out.
Also - for anyone interested, I blew the stock esc running 3S.
Then I installed a Rocket 4.5T 7700kv motor and blew a Hobbywing 10BL60 esc.
I am waiting on a 10BL120 and a Rocket TS160V2 esc for a shot at 3S with 120 or 160amps of current. In the meantime I installed a spare HobbyWing Fusion 1800kv motor and cannot believe how much fun it is with that motor/esc combo. The FOC crawler motor makes it nimble in the house at super slow speeds, and a torque monster on the road on 3S. SO FUN!!!! I might just try a Hobbywing 3300Kv AXE motor for a high one and see what the thing is like with double the power running and FOC setup... :)
Awesome video mate great results 👍 super smooth and great looking build 💪🙌
Thanks mate. I like a nice clean build. And apart from a few minor issues this one turned out well!
Thanks for showing us how to do the same ,now we have our new project...
Awesome
i have always run nitro but i am gobsmacked with the speed of this
So fast aren’t they!
Well done!
Cheers mate
Oh my!!!! Be still my beating RC heart. ....That 144001 gave me many a MIGRAINE, horrible time with shit going wrong with it, from the get go. Everything from wheels flying off, coz the nuts came loose, ESC trouble, camber problems, knuckles breaking, bending shock towers, it just goes on and on. STILL LOVED it while it ran. I'm gonna probably get another unit later on, when I can do the upgrades upon purchase before running it. That's the ticket Gov, THE epic RC buggy with quite a reputation, 'eh????...😁👍💯
I have heard lots of bad stories on the 144. But my experience has been good so far 👍🏻 Cheers for watching dude
Holy shit. I am not even into RC..but this just got me interested.
Haha... cheers dude.
Absolutely rating this!
It’s one of my best looking buggies 😎
Thanks, I’m going brushless now🏎💥 By the way, I’ve been using both ESC’s in this video in my other trucks, and while the dirt cheap one does not look like much it performs pretty good. It’s a copy of the Hobbywing Xerun 120A, which means that you can buy an usb adapter, got mine from Hobbyking at 6$, and program the ESC on your PC. There’s a load of settings, like 9 levels of punch(default is 7), drag brake force and other goodies, which is far more advanced than the Surplus ESC from banggood. Furthermore, both my 60A and 120A Surplus ESC’s add turboboost and jumps to 100% power, when you reach about 75% throttle. Pretty scary for highspeed runs and it also sucks a bit on the racetrack in the corners on power. The ESC you went with is not the best quality but for the price it’s the most adjustable. The main reason they burn up, is because the fan can only handle 2S voltage. So when you stick a 3S in the truck, the fan dies real quick and then the ESC doesn’t stand a chance. The solution is to unplug the fan and power it from the reciever, so it never gets more than 6V. It can also be programmed via the setup button without a program card, just look in the Hobbywing Xerun manual. Lastly, it is not waterproof, really not waterproof at all, not the slightest, especially around the setup and on/off switch, and you have to zip tie the cap pack, unless you’re ok with it bouncing around until the solder joints break.
yup, they're VERY progammable, you can set up current vs time too so it'll ramp up to full power at 1 to 1.5 seconds in ms time increments you set. very cool if you're setting up a little dragster, more control over how it'll launch.
Good info here mate.... cheers 👍🏻
Fast and Cheap .!.!.!. Who would Not Like it ... keeep up the Good Videos Bud💪🏻
Thanks dude
Wow that's impressive!! Great video dude 👍
Cool rc!
That's quick!
Yeah... pretty quick, but really stable at that speed.
Nice one bang good 👍🏻,, one of these are on the cards like buddy thanks for the video.
No worries Jason
Awesome build,I have that one and it is quick out of the box
Yes... really impressive
Bang good should do a combo sale on all the components thats in this video. Awesome work tomly luv the channel!
Looking forward to part 2. Coming soon?
Great video. Thanks for all the links to upgrades.
Hopefully. I need a bigger running area, so just trying to sort it out
Thanks heaps u made my day the best day because of ur super help with making it faster
That was a fun watch!
Cheap sunscreen on the foamies for more traction, you're welcome ;)
That Surpass Hobby ESC is for 1/8 stuff usually.
Thanks for the tip on the tyres mate :)
I went a slightly different route. I did a 2845 3930kv brushless. I kept the stock gears. I was interested in what this combo would do since I hadn’t seen anyone go with a smaller motor. I was curious what the run times would be like.
I haven’t had time for run times yet but it’s doing 45 mph on 2s.
Thanks for your time on this.
Have a great day and be safe out there! Cheers.
45 is good for that small motor 😎👍
Tomley RC I thought so and that’s on a 35a ESC so there might be a little more. The ESC is rated for 3s so I’ll try that as well. Be safe my friend! Cheers!
really great choice there, a little higher top speed and likely 20-25% longer run time too if not constantly flailing it. dropped a 2840 5000kv into my OLD Graupner Cobra boat, lots faster than it was with a 32k rpm 16D brushed motor. using a cheaper water cooled 50A brushless ESC and a cooling coil on the motor, feeding it with 3000mah 6 cell NiMh rated for 15C (45A) output. know it'll do a little better running 7.4v+ of 2000-3000mah LiPo... would take a little weight off it same time voltage+current get bumped up a little.
Not on that...but I have 2845 3300 and 60 amp ocday esc in 1/12 fyo3 or Kt12
The fy03 has stock metal ..Kt 12 has plastic part.
I got redcat blackout brushless and volcano brushless for $110
I get used 1/8 nitro buggie for under $100...slapp 4076 2200kv ( $35) 120A 4s ocady ( $30) 4s 50C it'll do 50-55 mph easy..depending how i gear it and what wheel ( $200 average ...but they're Hobbie grade...rc8..lois..XTM..or extend
kingmotor...
got side tracked...I upgrade the kiddies powerwheels with 48V 2000watt brushless, now..lmao ( it'll do 15-20 mph....depend how i gear it)
You need a CRAP load of BATTERIES.lmao
my grand is only 4 years old...He's powersliding and doing donuts
i have the 2 year old on 5s 50 C lipo....it'll do 12-15 mph becuase she's lite.
you all still messing with kiddie stuff....
I'll have to build a 60-72v gokart in about a year. when he truns 5..lol
Ya know what? It is a lot more fun twisting and turning and sliding than simple high speed. Like driving a MG sports car in the mountains vs. a dragster down a strip.
The best Fun Per Buck I have found is the WLToys 979.
I have 2 of these, this is build specifically for speed but I’m also a big fan of ‘twisting & turning 😉👍
I like those tires
Nice work Phil! With that 5200kv motor, be mindful of that ESC. I think that motor pulls 94A on 2S. So if you chuck a 3S in there the ESC may go up in smoke, it happened to me on a cheapo ESC and a 5200 motor. Don't want your hard work to go up in smoke! Also I don't know if you have installed droop screws yet, but limiting the arms and thickening the shock oil will help a lot for stability. Finally watch out for it flipping when you get into the 70s, a lot of us have added front splitters or air dams for downforce in the front.
Yes, going to get a different ESC before I try 3s, cutting out on 2s is enough to tell me it’s not up to the job. I added some droop screws and lowered it a little, forgot to mention that in the video. Will look at aero next. Cheers for watching 😎
It´s like a small rc bullet, got a really cool look with that body and tires on :)
Haha yeah... really quick!
YESSS I recently converted mine to brushless and its fantastic
So smooth 👍🏻
@@TomleyRC mines the opposite to smooth. The steering seems to have quite a lot of play and wobble. Also you drive train sounds sooo much smoother then mine 🤣
Wow fantastic rc car my friend👌👌👌
Thank you
All good here in ohio.Great review cool little car.Stay Safe Stay Healthy
Thanks Mark
its a bit funny how wltoys name their models. lol! my first RC was a wltoys too. love them! 😉👍🏼
Yes lol...random isn't it!
Very nice 〰〰〰❗❗👍
Thank you
Now I gotta get one
That's reeeeeally fast!
Yes...pretty quick!
Holy crap that's a stormer!
Certainly is!
2 out of 3 of those cheap 120a esc cought on fire and the 3rd one worked for 5 seconds. On 2s. Good video, foams are great tires
Thanks Billy. I've heard a few horror stories, yet to try mine on 3s!
@@TomleyRC I'm glad someone is finally having good luck with it. I don't know if I'd push it on 3s though.
Wouldn't mind having a go at this Phil.
Really like this truck can't go wrong with the price and upgraded parts just add powerful batteries with charger it's a win win situation 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪
Yes, good value
Phil awesome build mate. That Esc was massive lol. I had one of those cheap 120esc and It went on fire 🔥 lol. 52 mph is ok. Am sure you will get past your best and hit the 70s . Am going to get them foam tyres, great video, full watch as always Pal 👍😎👍😁👍
Them foam tyres are out of stock. I'll keep looking mate. 👍😁👍
Thanks Tony. Try eBay for the wheels/tyres mate. They should be about £6 a set 👍🏻
What ESC do you recommend
so at 8:01 was me trying to get the grub screw off a wltoys 979b, the motor mount screws where almost as bad, i got lucky pulling them out with a catch bit. nicely done!
Pretty fantastic little car, dude! Great testing!!! 😃
But I guess you're going to have to fit the big esc in there... At least I suspect you're going to... So... Good luck! 😬
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Not sure that big one will fit lol... I have a couple of other options 👍🏻
Yeah, that motor is a beast... 60A OCDay ESC works fine on 2S and 3S. Mine has pushed a RedCat crawler to stupid speeds with no trouble at all, along with a truly stupid TT-02 run (coming soon to a channel near you)
Well you made me get one 😂😂
That is an impressive speed! I haven't started upgrading my 144001 yet for our channel but after seeing your video there is now an urgency to get the upgrades! Thanks for a great video and nice channel. You have a new subscriber! Have a great day!
Thanks John. 😎👍
Amazing Phil; very "clean" work😎; i love that platform not only by its performance but as well the original body, that makes me remember the late 90's IFMAR cars. That Phat body was a perfect fit 👌 the car became so Beautiful that you make me Like a red car 😆
Now, if with that "clean" layout you reach 96 mls/h you will brake my mate Dan Patrick World Record on 3S 😁
Just Do It 😍
Thanks Luis. I’d like to get close to 100mph..... but certainly need to sort out the ‘aero’
@@TomleyRC
Yes Phil; from what i've been seeing of speed passes, (namely with the 144001), there isn't a "particular" and pertinent aerodynamic issue ... the rear wing can be better but overall, (and for me), is more the weight of the car and being balanced, as well the ground clearance; it must be "glued" to the pavement 🤔... and that brings other "issue": a nice clean and smooth road can make all the difference 🙂
All those Wltoys buggys a seem to be very quick out the box! 😨
Yes they are!
they DO focus too much on top speed for sales, at the expense of motor and ESC failures. its good practice to use a 2-3 tooth smaller pinion gear and put a heat sink onto the tops of the MOSFETS of their stock ESC's, if you want them to live for a while. its much better to give up some top speed in favor of snappier acceleration AND pulling less current through the battery+motor+ESC, especially if you're going to run a shorter course dirt track racing. quickness exiting one turn down a straight then entering the next turn is more important (lower lap times too) than top speed it'd never reach in a short straight-away. even if there is ONE long straight section, the quicker jams through all the short sections will get the lower lap times... its a lower top speed yes, but it reaches that top speed in a shorter distance, is much more advantageous on a short track, more fun for just bashing around because it'll also run a couple minutes longer on a charge. FAST is fun but there is a point where more of the power is just wasted making HEAT, with efficiency going right down the toilet. epoxy insulation of motor windings can burn away to short out causing ESC failure, battery pack over-heating, and heat also bakes out the strength of the motor's magnets....
way back when, running the jagged edge to go fast, we had "motor zappers". big electromagnets to restore the motor magnets field strength. put the motor in it, switch it on and let it run overnight to give the motor its torque back. on road oval racing 4 minute races we'd set up for the pack being DRAINED in 5 minutes was really hellish on battery packs, so hot you couldn't hold one with a firm grip. even the best NiCad's didn't like having 40+ amps yanked out of them. it was even worse with some of the 6-7-8 cell scratch built hydroplane boats I used to race, a race was only two minutes where pack fully drained in 3. water cooling coil around the motor, an air scoop pushing air directly into the motor's brushes trying to keep THEM cooler... crazy fun like that did get expensive!
Just liked subscribed. Great video content.
Thanks dude
Great Build... 52 mph 😳
Thank you
Hi i have some questions: How do i programm the esc? And does the stock gear fit on the motor?
Great video SubD you up ! Fast and cheap is great combo
Thanks dude. Appreciate it
Those metal gears in the diff will be cast zinc. It's just slightly better than plastic.
Yes, better than plastic, but still not the best
Wow, that is fast for what little mods you made!
Impressive how that handles the speed.
I upgrades my a959 and it's useless with the speed. I decided not to go brushless with the 144001 but put a proper brushed system in it.
My a959-b has a similar motor so I needed a small ESC. I tried the same one you put in. It acted up the first run and capped out on the second. I ended up going with the 60A hobbywing knockoff. It provides plenty of power and fit in front of the battery Upright on the a959-b so it will fit the 144001 easy. The only problem I had is that it will cog badly with a cheap motor but runs a decent motor very well.
I'm now thinking maybe I'll put the brushed system in the a959-b and go brushless in the 144001. Thanks!
Subbed. Very interesting vid.
Thank you
Can i ask you if the brushed version holds up well with 2s? i am not talking about crashes...i mean the gears and bearings mainly... 30 mph is plenty fast...its been several years since i have had a new rc car... this one seems amazing for the price... Lastly is this the same gyros they use in rc planes ...i do have a couple of 2 axis cheap ones i never used..thanks... PS...did that esc get hot with this 2s brushless setup?what about motor temps??? maybe slightly smaller motor might prevent that from happening...to me it seems to have excess power anyway..
I was already tempted to get one of this...
Great video 👍
Thanks dude
FYI, the wltoys 3s battery for the V950 fits great in this car.
Cheers dude
"That's what she said" 🤣
You got all the right ingredients for a 80mph build defo 😁👌🏾 these buggies are a blast to speed run. And the Phat bodies are perfect for these buggies. Look forward to seeing some runs 💯 nice video 👊🏽 P.S I wouldn't use that cheap 120amp I had 2 and both blown in 1/10 hsp after few uses but might be ok in lighter buggy. Or if you can take fan off and change it you could fit the better one you have. And if you can get straight flat center brace it's better for mounting esc and batteries fit better. All so longer body post help loads I use 1/10 straight body post. 😁😉👌🏾
Thanks mate. I've seen a few of your runs... some crazy speeds there! Cheers for the tips ;)
now we wait till wltoys sells 1:10 scale :)
I want a 1:14 wltoys truck! 👍
“What did he say?”
“He said he’s already got one!”
😂
Hey Tomley, great video, I've ordered 2 phat bodies like the one you have i noticed the punch hole you put at the back on the side on the spine part did you then tread string through and does it tie around the back metal plate or was that holding the GPS, I need help on how to secure the back down as I know it won't fit the clip mount as its too low inside. Need advice thanks bud
Yes, I put a small 'zip tie' through and around the shock tower to keep the back down. It also means you can just unclip the front one and lift the body up to access underneath
Great vid! Thats what she said🤣🤣
Thanks Ray :)
Hey, great video and thanks for the links! I have ordered the 124019, with the motor and esc you linked to.
I know you couldn’t get the surpass esc to fit but ran the gtsky 5200kv motor on the cheap blue esc, I didn’t see any cogging issues. Wondering if the surpass would run ok with the same gtsky5200kv without cogging?? I’d be happy to achieve 50mph on 2s without cogging!
Need too get them upgrades
Had battery related fear for you at 15:35
Hi Sir, I'm From the Philippines and I wanna try the modification that you used on this RC car... Can you please confirm for me if you used a 5200KV or 3650 Brushless motor? And also is it good to use the Surpass Hobby KK Series 120A Brushless Waterproof ESC rather than the one that you have used on this video? Thanks in advance and hoping for your reply and suggestions. Thank you so much.
That is the biggest 2S ESC i've seen, it's ridiculous :)
Well I didn't read it correctly... it can do up to 6s apparently lol
Great video! Definitely going to have to pick up a set of those wheels myself, quick question though, do you have a problem keeping your axles straight? And what do you recommend upgrading them to? I can't play with mine for more than 1 battery pack without having to replace them!!
Not sure what you mean by axles? Do you mean driveshafts?
Can I use the esc of this 144001 on wltoys 12428? They have the same transmitter, I wonder if they will bind. Thanks mate.
Hi, can you recommend any other Esc for the 144001? Thanks
it says the servo has been discontinued, are there any others you could recommend?
Just got one for $60 shipped off eBay! It's for my girlfriend, but I'm still pretty excited to check it out.
Very nice 👍 question what size bore dose the metal gears have? Is it 3mm or 5mm thank you
Hi Tomley. I just tried click the link for the brushless motor but it is not available in Banggood anymore. Do you recall which brand & model was it? Thank you.
I've never owned an RC car but now looking to buy one. What would you recommend for a complete beginner. Looking for something I can use on BMX track that can handle the jumps but also be used on tarmac. Preferably 2WD and not hugely expensive but could be upgraded over time. Any help appreciated. 👍
hello I am French sorry for the mistakes.
I wanted to know how long you held your battery because in 2s its must empty quickly. otherwise as you are in 2s the intensity is enormous the wires do not heat too much? because you are not far from 120 Amps if I am not mistaken. I think I do the same thing as you my I wanted information.
thank you