To anyone doing this: although you may solder the 12v wire to any of the 3 pins for 12v, make sure to let some soldering lead run over the other 2 pins as well, to connect all 3. There is a reason for having 3 pins of the same, since the contacts are so small, each one one them can pass only about 1.5 A of current. So if the hard drive happens to want to draw more, problems can arise when the power supply is connected via just one tiny pin. Just my two cents.
The three pins should be all shorted together to a single larger copper plane trace on the pcb but yes it's never a bad idea to increase connection surface area/current capability for higher current connections.
The power supply requirements are the same no matter the data connection, 5V at around 1A and 12V at around 1-2A depending on the drive. For internal sata then you'd just need an adapter to connect the data portion of the connector.
Finally a usefull video. Some are buying an enclosure but i was looking for converting 2.5 enclosure to 3.5. thanks to this video, i dont have to spend again.
Thanks for the explanation. Won't be making a DIY cable like you, but is good to know that the issue is because the larger drives simply wont do anything if they have less than a 12 V supply connected. cheers
you my friend are a life saver...just ripped a 3.5hdd out of an old sky hd box.... after 2hrs of frustration i only learnt that the 3.5 hdd need 12v to operate properly unlike the 3.0 and 2.5,s.Thats why it my laptop wouldn't read it as it wasn't even powering up. 10/10
Just done this mod...it works flawlessly. I used an old 12v adapter, putting out 1.5amps. Soldered the positive and negative as shown, and it came straight up on my laptop. Thank you
So, I've been trying several 12V adapters, 3A and 5A, notebook-style, but no-one of them seems to output voltage when connected to this contraption. They do work with notebooks and monitors they were intended for. Any solution to that? Yeah, I checked the continuity and it is present until the SATA contacts on the drive. The drive is working as well in the PC when mounted internally.
@@krzbrew some drives require the 5v too from usb , also some psu's need a load to stay on, you mentioned checking for continuity which is good, have you checked at the sata socket for the 12v DC and 5vDC to see if they are there, ;-]
yeah i figured my 3.5's HDD didnt have enough power just using the 2.5 USB adapter, unfortunately, I don't own a soldering gun or other neat tools. But TY for confirming that you do need more power for the 3.5,
Thumbs up on the tutorial! I tried it and had no luck powering up three different 3.5" HDD's. I'll have to try another way. Thanks for the info though.
@@maze42d I used a 12V 2A DC power supply. They would actually spool up, but the computer wasn't able to recognize any of them through the USB port. It could be a bad SATA cable. I've had a problem with SATA cables before.
It's smart, because buying an external 3.5 hard drive enclosure is expensive, since they have their own power supply and are also over priced on top of that, here in Australia buying one from an online Australian store that can take 2 hard drives costs at least 125 dollars, which is a total waste of money. Yet you have made the same thing right here for a few dollars, enabling you to use USB and connect your powered 3.5 inch drive to your computer.
SATA power pinout: 3.3V, 3.3V, 3.3V, Gnd, Gnd, Gnd, 5V, 5V, 5V, Gnd, Reserved, Gnd, 12V, 12V, 12V. Solder red cable to pin 12V, 12V, 12V. and black cable to pin Gnd, Gnd, Gnd.
I wish I would have seen this before I bought more adapters. I had 3 of these wires already. I popped one apart today and had no problem making it work. If I can do it anyone can. Funny thing is today my adapters showed up in the mail after I had thought they had been lost (or never sent; ebay/China, nugh said). Anyway at least I found them on the cheap but this was fun to do. Thanks, I have subscribed to your channel and it looks like I'll be having a lot more fun in the near future.
@@sjm4306 I'm actually looking for a way to fix sata to usb bridge card. I have 2. One is an enclosure that started kicking out (I think overheating) and the other came out of a 5tb seagate. It worked fine for a long time then just died. Let me know if you have any ideas or maybe you might make it into a future.video
@@sjm4306 The enclosure works fine but if it's been on for a long time it kicks out and I must leave it off for a while before it will work again, making it difficult to transfer large files. The bridge I took out of the 5TB Seagate doesn't do anything. It worked fine and died suddenly. Hoping it can have a capacitor switched or something.
Brilliant just done one last 3 pins soldered together to 12v plus + Black to earth on usb black - Saved my bacon my docking station died due to short out on the mains Saved me £40 uk I did double check the pin data lol Nice video dude 👍
Очень интересно. Еще было бы хорошо прикладывать схематичную схему к проектам для наглядности, или ссылки на исходники с подробным описанием. спасибо)))
Thanks for your tricks ! Very usefull 👍 For the 12V power supply, could you tell me what polarity to use please ? I have the adaptator from my guitar pedals, but I dont know which polarity to chose for my Seagate ironwolf. Many thanks SMJ
Hi. I found your video really educating. I would just like to ask. I have a 3.5 HDD, the thing is, I found this adapter online for sale that is made for 2.5" and 3.5" Sata HDD already. The thing is, the package doesn't come with the power supply even though it has a port for one, just the adapter itself because it won't need external power supply for 2.5s. Just like to ask what is the safe voltage of power supply should I use for the 3.5s. I mean, you mentioned 12V, but i'm guessing that's the minimum? Would it be bad if I use 15V if I ever found one?
3.5" drives require 12V for the motor electronics (this is a nominal rating not a min or max!), nothing more (15V will almost definitely blow something up) and nothing less (which will not spin up the drive). 12V adapters for use with routers are dirt cheap and commonly available at most thrift stores that have an electronics section, and any computer electronics store should have a few in stock. Hope this helps.
Pretty much all wallwarts I've seen have isolated outputs so they'll effectively float the drive, which will then get grounded thru whatever computer they get plugged into. In the case of laptops running on battery everything will just be left floating.
Thank you for your sharing, i have an adapter but it use a separate cable called am-microbm, can you tell me where to solder the nagative wire on the adapter board, or can i solder it to one of the COM pins on the sata power pin (10th,11th,12th). Thank you!
i have many files in my 3.5 hdd, and i wanted to use it to my laptop as external but i want it to be modified, im wondering if i can use the dvd rom of the laptop to be modified connected to my 3.5 hdd, can someone do this kindi of scenario to help me.
Awesome video, thanks for making and sharing! I just have one question. When soldering the power lead to the sata cable, do you have to get it on ONE of the connections? Will it affect the power to hard drive if you get solder on the other 3 contacts for the 12 v supply? Thanks again!
One lead or all three wouldnt make much of a difference, just make absolutely sure not to bridge with any adjacent pins that arent 12V or you could blow the board/hdd.
@@sjm4306 Thanks for your fast reply! I got it done, but when I plug in the hard drive, I can feel it start spinning then stops. I checked with 2.5" latop HDD I have and it still works. I made sure it is 12v output. I put HDD in comp make sure it works. It just starts to spin up then nothing. Any ideas on that?
@@michaelcottrell6931 What current is your 12V adapter rated for? If it is too small then the drive will not have enough power to fully spin up. It is a good idea to have at least 2A.
instead of using a 12 V DC only PSU, why not use a ATX PSU? that way, you could potentially use more HDD as long as you have multiple SATA to USB converter.
Yep, pretty much any regulated 12V supply can be used so long as it can supply more current than the sum of the current draw of all attached drives. In my case I'll only ever attach one drive so the little ac adapter I'm using will be fine.
@@sjm4306 I just tried this but my setup didn't work, I've tried: 1. solder 12 V DC to 13th pin 2. solder 12 V DC to 13th to 15th pin all of which is while the ground pin is soldered to the ground terminal of the converter. already tried it on 2 HDD. but those are old ones and I'm still gonna test if those still works (gonna connect it on my PC directly) do you have any suggestion? btw the drives are vibrating normally and in windows disk management, it says "not initialized" and when I click "initialize" it gives out an error message "the request failed due to a fatal device hardware error". tnx EDIT: tested my HDDs (connected directly to SATA port) and didn't work.
I cant show exactly as the specific adapter I bought years ago probably isn't even available anymore and the specific soldering locations will be different for different models. Just follow the description I provide in the video to find a suitable point to solder ground and +12V to (hint it's just following traces for those pins on the sata connector).
Excellent video. Quick question. Can I somehow easily determine which connection is the ground with the volt reader? I messed around in the little USB circuit board and can't figure out where to solder the ground wire.
The ground of a circuit is almost always any pad connected to exposed metal shells of usb female connectors, the large copper plane that surrounds everything, or easily any black wire coming or going to usb leads. To verify set your meter on beep continuity mode, plug the sata adapter into an unpowered drive, hold one of your multimeter probes on one of the screws on the hdd pcb, tap the other probe on a suspected ground point on the sata adapter board and if it beeps when held then it is ground.
@@sjm4306 i tried, unfortunately rpi can't read usb plugged. I check lsusb nothing there. I saw that USB 2.0 only gives 500mA, while my hdd said need 700mA for 5VDC 😭 *Update: Above condition due to i used 2 usb to sata 2 ea on USB, one using SSD and the other is HDD 3.5", maybe RPI couldn't delivery proper current. Buat after I removed the SSD, 3.5" can read perfect!
No, you will likely kill the drive if you give it more or less than the required 12v. Keep in mind the 12v is powering all motors so 9.5v could actually do something catastrophic like start the spindle but stall the heads over the platters causing a head crash, not worth the risk.
Hello.. Great Video! Watching it in 2021. Out of curiousity tho, Wouldnt external docking bay station work the same? with a higher degree of ease of use?
Yeah an external dock would of course be easier, but this was a video more for getting it to work quickly with only a 2.5" adapter on hand without having to buy a dock online and wait for it to arrive. If you already have a dock then by all means use it.
Yeah a computer supply will work, you'd just need to find a way to splice only the data from the usb adapter to the drive and the power connector to the supply. With this usb adapter as is it would block the power pins and not allow you to plug an external supply in there.
Depends of the current rating of the charger and thr current draw from each hard disk. The numbers should be written on their labels. For examplr if each drive needs 2A at 12V then you would need at minimum 2x3=6A and I would add maybe 1-2A as a buffer so your supply needs to be able to provide 7-8A.
You only told about where do we have to solder one wire of the 12 v cable but I didn't figure about the another wire of the 12v cable . Where will we soldier the another wire of 12 v adaptor.
I have segate expansin and seagate backup plus external hdd I have question that can i use 12 volt 1 amp for powering the hdd ? Please replay me its urgent for me Thanks
Can anyone explain the connection of the 12v adapter wire to the "socket" first. Im not uderdtanding why the 12v adapter wires are not just connected directly to one of the 12v pins on the sata plug and a ground connection on sata plug board?
hola me gusta el video quiero tambien hacer uno asi donde consigo el conector de sata que usastes y explicame en un video como conectar los cables a la pieza por favor
There really isn't a schematic, it's just two wires that get soldered to ground and 12V (I googled the sata connector pinout to figure out which pins to solder to).
I'm planning on using a sfx power supply to power the drives, but I can't find any usb to sata cables without sata power... Do you know of any place that sells them?
You could probably bodge a desktop sata data cable into the female end of a usb sata adapter. Afaik no one sells sata usb adapters with only the data pins broken out
can i use the same adapter for laptop optical disk drive. (I'll only use the 7 pin data lines from it and the 5 vols. from the usb using the 6 pin power connector for it.. ) will it work... if you get what i mean to say in short will the the data lines work for a optical disk drive?
Yes, laptop optical sata drives use the exact same interface protocol as sata hdds. I once bought a cheap wire adapter to replace the optical drive in a laptop with a 2nd 2.5" hdd.
ok here im after getting the connector but i have a problem when using it on phone , hdd eats phone juice too quickly , like 5% in a minute or more i make external 5v wires but hdd doesn't work if powered with external 5v it works only if powered by phone what can i do ? i have to mention that 12v is already connected
@@sjm4306 Yes i tried using the usb hub it doesn't work at all neither with external power nor without it when using the hub with usb flash drive or a keyboard it works normally *only without external power* but when using it for the hdd it doesn't work either ways
You would need to splice into the power side of the extension cable. Use this image (i.stack.imgur.com/HB4Mc.gif) to splice in 12V and ground (pin with the same name are all tied together) like I did for my adapter in this video but wired straight to the sata power connector going to the 3.5 hdd.
There really isn't a schematic, just solder two wires (red and black for positive and negative of the 12V supply) to the specific points I show in the video.
so the second usb cable isn't there to increase voltage, then what is it for? plus i wonder what would happend if you would give 12v at the usb end of that connector, instead of adding 12v directly to the sata port.
The second usb cable is to supply more current. If you were to give 12v to the usb plug instead of the 5v it expects you will likely fry the sata drive and usb bridge and possibly the usb bus circuitry on your computer. You can only safely supply 12v directly to the 12v sata pins.
Hey nice video, I've done all the soldeing, positive to the outermost part of the sata and ground to the ground, and it spins up noicely, and ive tested past 2.5" hard drives and the actual sata to usb thing works, but despite spinning up it isn't detected by windows or disk manager or device manager. Any ideas? thanks
Thanks, one thing to note is some of these adapters have limitations as to what size drives they will recognize. For instance one of my modified adapters wont read 3.5 drives larger than 2tb. Not sure if this is the problem you are having but possibly.
Had the same problem with one of these cables. Try to plug the cables into the usb ports on the back of your pc. The ports on the front of my pc wont deliver enough power :)
I dont know the brand of the adapter I used off the top of my head unfortunately. I would suggest though you get one for a good branf wifi router like linksys or belkin so long as the voltage is correct and the current is greater than what is on the drive's label.
Hey, I want to do something similar but internally in a thin client by taking the 5v from a usb header (or somewhere else) and the 12volt externally. I'll connect those in a sata power cable and then, use the sata data cable. Will it work?
Well, turns out that the board did have a internal floppy connector. So I made an adaptor and I'm good. Although other skus don't have the connector. I was lucky...
To anyone doing this: although you may solder the 12v wire to any of the 3 pins for 12v, make sure to let some soldering lead run over the other 2 pins as well, to connect all 3. There is a reason for having 3 pins of the same, since the contacts are so small, each one one them can pass only about 1.5 A of current. So if the hard drive happens to want to draw more, problems can arise when the power supply is connected via just one tiny pin. Just my two cents.
The three pins should be all shorted together to a single larger copper plane trace on the pcb but yes it's never a bad idea to increase connection surface area/current capability for higher current connections.
Power draw on my WD Caviar Black circa 2007 is 12VDC .55A
The power supply requirements are the same no matter the data connection, 5V at around 1A and 12V at around 1-2A depending on the drive. For internal sata then you'd just need an adapter to connect the data portion of the connector.
How would one go about doing this method with a molex power cable to power an IDE HDD? I’ve looked everywhere for a guide and can’t find anything.
OK this is the positive wire and negatív wire GO where?
Finally a usefull video. Some are buying an enclosure but i was looking for converting 2.5 enclosure to 3.5. thanks to this video, i dont have to spend again.
Thanks for the explanation. Won't be making a DIY cable like you, but is good to know that the issue is because the larger drives simply wont do anything if they have less than a 12 V supply connected.
cheers
You can rig up a power connection if you have power unit externally available , just use the provided cable/adaptor, can be done.
exactly what i was looking for
you my friend are a life saver...just ripped a 3.5hdd out of an old sky hd box.... after 2hrs of frustration i only learnt that the 3.5 hdd need 12v to operate properly unlike the 3.0 and 2.5,s.Thats why it my laptop wouldn't read it as it wasn't even powering up. 10/10
Just done this mod...it works flawlessly. I used an old 12v adapter, putting out 1.5amps. Soldered the positive and negative as shown, and it came straight up on my laptop. Thank you
Awesome, glad to hear!
can i connect the black 12 wire on the black cable
This worked flawlessly. THANK YOU so much. My PC had some important data in it I restored it all
This is AWESOME! No bullshit talking, no this or that. The info what is needed is here. Thank you very much! Subbed! :)
once again best ideas solve a problem, good advice to use a REGULATED 12v DC PSU , many thanks for the idea and upload
yes it is right, all 12 volts DC adapters are finely regulated, AUTO volts at input. (100~240 Volts AC)
So, I've been trying several 12V adapters, 3A and 5A, notebook-style, but no-one of them seems to output voltage when connected to this contraption. They do work with notebooks and monitors they were intended for. Any solution to that? Yeah, I checked the continuity and it is present until the SATA contacts on the drive. The drive is working as well in the PC when mounted internally.
@@krzbrew some drives require the 5v too from usb , also some psu's need a load to stay on, you mentioned checking for continuity which is good, have you checked at the sata socket for the 12v DC and 5vDC to see if they are there, ;-]
@@DazzaDirect 5V is there, 12V is not there.
yeah i figured my 3.5's HDD didnt have enough power just using the 2.5 USB adapter, unfortunately, I don't own a soldering gun or other neat tools. But TY for confirming that you do need more power for the 3.5,
Thumbs up on the tutorial! I tried it and had no luck powering up three different 3.5" HDD's. I'll have to try another way. Thanks for the info though.
What curent was the supply? I could't get a drive spinning on .5A supply, on 2A it ran completely fine.
I used a 2A supply as well and it worked on all my 3.5" hdds
Daniel Choutka “switching” power supply is most likely needed
@@maze42d I used a 12V 2A DC power supply. They would actually spool up, but the computer wasn't able to recognize any of them through the USB port. It could be a bad SATA cable. I've had a problem with SATA cables before.
It's smart, because buying an external 3.5 hard drive enclosure is expensive, since they have their own power supply and are also over priced on top of that, here in Australia buying one from an online Australian store that can take 2 hard drives costs at least 125 dollars, which is a total waste of money. Yet you have made the same thing right here for a few dollars, enabling you to use USB and connect your powered 3.5 inch drive to your computer.
SATA power pinout: 3.3V, 3.3V, 3.3V, Gnd, Gnd, Gnd, 5V, 5V, 5V, Gnd, Reserved, Gnd, 12V, 12V, 12V.
Solder red cable to pin 12V, 12V, 12V.
and black cable to pin Gnd, Gnd, Gnd.
Thanks
To every ground or just one of them?
Technically just one is necessary, but all three are bridged on the pcb so you could alternatively solder to all three without issue.
i knew it, its about power thats why i cant test my newly bought 3.5" with my sata cable that is meant for a 2.5"
nice video
I wish I would have seen this before I bought more adapters. I had 3 of these wires already. I popped one apart today and had no problem making it work. If I can do it anyone can. Funny thing is today my adapters showed up in the mail after I had thought they had been lost (or never sent; ebay/China, nugh said). Anyway at least I found them on the cheap but this was fun to do. Thanks, I have subscribed to your channel and it looks like I'll be having a lot more fun in the near future.
Thanks, I hope you find more videos on my channel that you like.
@@sjm4306 I'm actually looking for a way to fix sata to usb bridge card. I have 2. One is an enclosure that started kicking out (I think overheating) and the other came out of a 5tb seagate. It worked fine for a long time then just died. Let me know if you have any ideas or maybe you might make it into a future.video
Do the 2 cards still spin up an attached drive but not enumerate when plugged into a computer or do they do nothing at all?
@@sjm4306 The enclosure works fine but if it's been on for a long time it kicks out and I must leave it off for a while before it will work again, making it difficult to transfer large files. The bridge I took out of the 5TB Seagate doesn't do anything. It worked fine and died suddenly. Hoping it can have a capacitor switched or something.
I will send you my email if you prefer to message privately.
Brilliant just done one last 3 pins soldered together to 12v plus +
Black to earth on usb black -
Saved my bacon my docking station died due to short out on the mains
Saved me £40 uk I did double check the pin data lol
Nice video dude 👍
Happy hearing that this simple hack helped someone
Just did this now and is working 👍
Whst a beautiful intro !
Thanks for sharing this. Now I'm looking into modding my own.
Thats really nifty.
you said it!!
Nice simple mod.
Actually u can just plug 12 v to the yellow cable of the hdd and 5 v to the red one the two black wires are ground . And that's it
That's technically exactly what I did, but directly soldering to the 2.5" adapter pcb
Thanks you man! This is very useful, keep pushing UP New tricks
Очень интересно. Еще было бы хорошо прикладывать схематичную схему к проектам для наглядности, или ссылки на исходники с подробным описанием. спасибо)))
Thanks you brother this is tutorial the best work
Thanks for your tricks ! Very usefull 👍
For the 12V power supply, could you tell me what polarity to use please ? I have the adaptator from my guitar pedals, but I dont know which polarity to chose for my Seagate ironwolf. Many thanks SMJ
Always double check with a multimeter, don't just trust the polarity label on the adapter.
Works!!! Like a charm! Thank *youuuuuuuuuu*
could you tell us and make a vedio how you made this cable
I'm definitely going to use this, cool video
Hi. I found your video really educating. I would just like to ask. I have a 3.5 HDD, the thing is, I found this adapter online for sale that is made for 2.5" and 3.5" Sata HDD already. The thing is, the package doesn't come with the power supply even though it has a port for one, just the adapter itself because it won't need external power supply for 2.5s. Just like to ask what is the safe voltage of power supply should I use for the 3.5s. I mean, you mentioned 12V, but i'm guessing that's the minimum? Would it be bad if I use 15V if I ever found one?
3.5" drives require 12V for the motor electronics (this is a nominal rating not a min or max!), nothing more (15V will almost definitely blow something up) and nothing less (which will not spin up the drive). 12V adapters for use with routers are dirt cheap and commonly available at most thrift stores that have an electronics section, and any computer electronics store should have a few in stock. Hope this helps.
you wanna make sure the ground potential on the wall wart is the same as the device you are connecting the drive to
Pretty much all wallwarts I've seen have isolated outputs so they'll effectively float the drive, which will then get grounded thru whatever computer they get plugged into. In the case of laptops running on battery everything will just be left floating.
@@sjm4306there's a lot of cheap Chinese junk flooding the market these days imo. I don't assume anything anymore
True, trust but verify
would be nice to power the whole 3.5 drive over usb. maybe with a stepup converter and a usb 3 port for higher power output
Still the USB 3 outputs like 800mA... That's 4W... I couldn't get a drive spinning from 6W supply. Maybe through a powerbank or 2A phone charger.
Looks convienient. Ive had trouble with those.
Hey amazing guide.. just a question, if we connect 2.5" hdd to that adaptor and also give power (although it is not necessary), will it harm the hdd??
Nope, the 12v rail pins on a 2.5" drive aren't connected to anything. I've swapped 2.5" sata drives into 3.5" bays plenty of times without issue.
It'd be just like plugging it into a desktop PSU sata cable with 12 and 5 volts.
Is there a video of this with more explanation on the process of making the mod?
This worked perfectly, Thanks
Hi! You made the best video on this subject! Will it work on Windows 10?
Yep, this should work on any modern operating system that supports usb mass storage devices.
soldered to socket please explain
Works perfectly. Thank you very much!!!...
So exactly HOW does one do this?
Awesome advice Works well. 10min and done
Thank you for your sharing, i have an adapter but it use a separate cable called am-microbm, can you tell me where to solder the nagative wire on the adapter board, or can i solder it to one of the COM pins on the sata power pin (10th,11th,12th). Thank you!
This worked, thank you so much!
Hey can u tell me how many volts and amps u supplied to ur hdd and the type/model of ur hdd, thanks
@@LeahcimSsadlama nope, i havent measured it. It was a pretty chunky old 1TB HDD, i think it had 12V 0.5A written on it
i have many files in my 3.5 hdd, and i wanted to use it to my laptop as external but i want it to be modified, im wondering if i can use the dvd rom of the laptop to be modified connected to my 3.5 hdd, can someone do this kindi of scenario to help me.
The intersting thing is the computer shows the hdd as an internal drive not as an external drive why this thing is happen?
Thank you . works perfect !!!
still works thanks
Cool !
I am sorry but i heard
ISO backups for ps4 ?
Awesome video, thanks for making and sharing! I just have one question. When soldering the power lead to the sata cable, do you have to get it on ONE of the connections? Will it affect the power to hard drive if you get solder on the other 3 contacts for the 12 v supply? Thanks again!
One lead or all three wouldnt make much of a difference, just make absolutely sure not to bridge with any adjacent pins that arent 12V or you could blow the board/hdd.
@@sjm4306 Thanks for your fast reply! I got it done, but when I plug in the hard drive, I can feel it start spinning then stops. I checked with 2.5" latop HDD I have and it still works. I made sure it is 12v output. I put HDD in comp make sure it works. It just starts to spin up then nothing. Any ideas on that?
@@michaelcottrell6931 What current is your 12V adapter rated for? If it is too small then the drive will not have enough power to fully spin up. It is a good idea to have at least 2A.
@@sjm4306 It shows on the adapter 12v output and 1000mA? Is that enough to power up the hard drive?
1000mA is a bit low, best to use 2000mA
I am not sure if mine worked but my hdd spin and then stops why please a help
Double check your usb connection and if it's enumerating on the computer.
Duuuude i was looking everywhere 'couse i bought the wrong adapter xD
Greetings from Argentina!
Greetings!
instead of using a 12 V DC only PSU, why not use a ATX PSU? that way, you could potentially use more HDD as long as you have multiple SATA to USB converter.
Yep, pretty much any regulated 12V supply can be used so long as it can supply more current than the sum of the current draw of all attached drives. In my case I'll only ever attach one drive so the little ac adapter I'm using will be fine.
@@sjm4306 I just tried this but my setup didn't work, I've tried:
1. solder 12 V DC to 13th pin
2. solder 12 V DC to 13th to 15th pin
all of which is while the ground pin is soldered to the ground terminal of the converter.
already tried it on 2 HDD. but those are old ones and I'm still gonna test if those still works (gonna connect it on my PC directly)
do you have any suggestion? btw the drives are vibrating normally and in windows disk management, it says "not initialized" and when I click "initialize" it gives out an error message "the request failed due to a fatal device hardware error".
tnx
EDIT:
tested my HDDs (connected directly to SATA port) and didn't work.
Thanks, it was ok .
Can you please show clearly how to give the Adapter 12v of power....
I cant show exactly as the specific adapter I bought years ago probably isn't even available anymore and the specific soldering locations will be different for different models. Just follow the description I provide in the video to find a suitable point to solder ground and +12V to (hint it's just following traces for those pins on the sata connector).
im using this power solution on a mini sata(laptop optical drive port) port ,i hope this works
Excellent video. Quick question. Can I somehow easily determine which connection is the ground with the volt reader? I messed around in the little USB circuit board and can't figure out where to solder the ground wire.
The ground of a circuit is almost always any pad connected to exposed metal shells of usb female connectors, the large copper plane that surrounds everything, or easily any black wire coming or going to usb leads. To verify set your meter on beep continuity mode, plug the sata adapter into an unpowered drive, hold one of your multimeter probes on one of the screws on the hdd pcb, tap the other probe on a suspected ground point on the sata adapter board and if it beeps when held then it is ground.
@@sjm4306 thank you so much sir.
Finally someone has test my idea, but I'm still doubt can I use it on my Rpi 2 since, it's use USB 2.0?
It'll work with any usb port since the usb standard is fully backwards compatible. I used a usb 2.0 adapter/port in this video and it works.
@@sjm4306 i tried, unfortunately rpi can't read usb plugged. I check lsusb nothing there. I saw that USB 2.0 only gives 500mA, while my hdd said need 700mA for 5VDC 😭
*Update: Above condition due to i used 2 usb to sata 2 ea on USB, one using SSD and the other is HDD 3.5", maybe RPI couldn't delivery proper current. Buat after I removed the SSD, 3.5" can read perfect!
Yeah sounds like the rpi 5v usb current isn't enough to power the drive. An externally powered usb hub should work in that case.
If you plug in both USB's, Will that provide the additional power needed to spin up the 3.5?
The USB will only supply the 5V rail, 3.5 hdds also require 12V which is why I had to solder the additional wires to an external 12V ac adapter.
big help. thanks.
can a 9.5 power supply instead of a 12 v power supply be used
No, you will likely kill the drive if you give it more or less than the required 12v. Keep in mind the 12v is powering all motors so 9.5v could actually do something catastrophic like start the spindle but stall the heads over the platters causing a head crash, not worth the risk.
Hello.. Great Video! Watching it in 2021. Out of curiousity tho, Wouldnt external docking bay station work the same? with a higher degree of ease of use?
Yeah an external dock would of course be easier, but this was a video more for getting it to work quickly with only a 2.5" adapter on hand without having to buy a dock online and wait for it to arrive. If you already have a dock then by all means use it.
pretty good mate can i use computer power supply and what if i get hard and give him a power from power supply that isn't the main power supply
Yeah a computer supply will work, you'd just need to find a way to splice only the data from the usb adapter to the drive and the power connector to the supply. With this usb adapter as is it would block the power pins and not allow you to plug an external supply in there.
Can i connect directly from adapter black and red wire? Without socket.
Yep, no issues wiring directly
Hi! Can I do the same for three hard disk 3.5 and use only one charger? Thanks a lot!
Depends of the current rating of the charger and thr current draw from each hard disk. The numbers should be written on their labels. For examplr if each drive needs 2A at 12V then you would need at minimum 2x3=6A and I would add maybe 1-2A as a buffer so your supply needs to be able to provide 7-8A.
You only told about where do we have to solder one wire of the 12 v cable but I didn't figure about the another wire of the 12v cable . Where will we soldier the another wire of 12 v adaptor.
The other wire is ground and thus can be soldered to any ground on the board (everything on the board is common ground so it's easy to find)
i can hear my Hard Drive more than yours at full volume hahah
Cesar Melendrez that’s a bad thing
Excellent Thanks
I have segate expansin and seagate backup plus external hdd
I have question that can i use 12 volt 1 amp for powering the hdd ?
Please replay me its urgent for me
Thanks
It'll probably work fine, but if it doesn't have enough power to start then I'd suggest going with a 12v 2a supply to be safe.
thanks very much mr
Are u able to solder the wires back onto the board from the usb tip mines came off
Should be easy to just strip back the wires and resolder
Bro will it work on Android using otg
I am curious why you solder the adapter to the plastic piece, instead of splicing it to the second, unused, USB wire.
12V at relatively high current through wires meant for 5V is not a good idea so better safe than sorry.
Can anyone explain the connection of the 12v adapter wire to the "socket" first. Im not uderdtanding why the 12v adapter wires are not just connected directly to one of the 12v pins on the sata plug and a ground connection on sata plug board?
That's literally exactly what I've done. +12Vdc from the wall adapter barrel jack to the 12v sata pins, and ground to any ground point on the pcb
@@sjm4306 - sweet thanks so much for the response and for the video
hola me gusta el video quiero tambien hacer uno asi donde consigo el conector de sata que usastes y explicame en un video como conectar los cables a la pieza por favor
Thanks, I explain in this video what points to solder to on the adapter and you can buy the adapter here: ebay.to/2nlboZo
can I get the circuit diagram for the connection
There really isn't a schematic, it's just two wires that get soldered to ground and 12V (I googled the sata connector pinout to figure out which pins to solder to).
I'm planning on using a sfx power supply to power the drives, but I can't find any usb to sata cables without sata power... Do you know of any place that sells them?
You could probably bodge a desktop sata data cable into the female end of a usb sata adapter. Afaik no one sells sata usb adapters with only the data pins broken out
If I have smps. Can I connect it to Hd by shorting black and green wire. Instead of doing this procedure. Will it work?
Yes but just double check your 12v wiring to the drive before powering it on or your atx supply could destroy the drive and usb bridge board.
what shouldbe the power input to 2.5 inch HDD with externalpower source ?
I want to use the only external power . Any suggestions
A 2.5" hdd only requires 5V
can someone help me on how to do that?
can i use the same adapter for laptop optical disk drive. (I'll only use the 7 pin data lines from it and the 5 vols. from the usb using the 6 pin power connector for it.. ) will it work... if you get what i mean to say
in short will the the data lines work for a optical disk drive?
Yes, laptop optical sata drives use the exact same interface protocol as sata hdds. I once bought a cheap wire adapter to replace the optical drive in a laptop with a 2nd 2.5" hdd.
Hi. Can I use my PSU 12v sata cable to power a small amplifier? Or maybe mix it with the other 12v for hdd and use 24v? Thanks
So long as the peak current of the amp is less than the max the psu can supply then I dont see why it wouldn't work.
ok here im after getting the connector
but i have a problem when using it on phone , hdd eats phone juice too quickly , like 5% in a minute or more
i make external 5v wires but hdd doesn't work if powered with external 5v
it works only if powered by phone
what can i do ?
i have to mention that 12v is already connected
You'd need a powered usb hub between the phone and hdd to prevent it from drawing current from the 5v rail from the phone
@@sjm4306
Yes i tried using the usb hub
it doesn't work at all neither with external power nor without it
when using the hub with usb flash drive or a keyboard it works normally *only without external power*
but when using it for the hdd it doesn't work either ways
I have 5his problem but I can't do what you have, can you buy one? Thanks
They sell 3.5" hdd enclosures that are plug and play.
hey, do you know how to do that with a sata extension cable? coz my laptop cannot provide enough power for my 3.5 inch hdd,
You would need to splice into the power side of the extension cable. Use this image (i.stack.imgur.com/HB4Mc.gif) to splice in 12V and ground (pin with the same name are all tied together) like I did for my adapter in this video but wired straight to the sata power connector going to the 3.5 hdd.
Bro i need one help if you don't mind please sent the circuit diagram please bro please send me the link or file please bro please
There really isn't a schematic, just solder two wires (red and black for positive and negative of the 12V supply) to the specific points I show in the video.
@@sjm4306 thank you
What about for all those that are so new to all this and do not have the equipment. Is there any other way to have the power go into the hard drive.
Not really, soldering the two wires is basically necessary for reliability
Thanks
Hey, I know this video is a little old but where did you put the negative wire?
Any ground point (black usb wire is an easy place)
What is the name of what you used to con next the hhd
It's a usb sata adapter (it comes with a plastic case, but I removed mine so I could solder the wires for 12V shown in this video)
so the second usb cable isn't there to increase voltage, then what is it for? plus i wonder what would happend if you would give 12v at the usb end of that connector, instead of adding 12v directly to the sata port.
The second usb cable is to supply more current. If you were to give 12v to the usb plug instead of the 5v it expects you will likely fry the sata drive and usb bridge and possibly the usb bus circuitry on your computer. You can only safely supply 12v directly to the 12v sata pins.
@@sjm4306 thank you for your quick response. so we need 2 usb ports + 12v external adapter
Probably only need 1 usb port and then an external 12v adapter if you want to power a 3.5" sata drive.
do we have to connect all last three wires with 12 v + or any one of them is ok ??????
Technically just need one, but connecting to 2 or 3 of the 12v pins doesn't hurt.
Hey nice video, I've done all the soldeing, positive to the outermost part of the sata and ground to the ground, and it spins up noicely, and ive tested past 2.5" hard drives and the actual sata to usb thing works, but despite spinning up it isn't detected by windows or disk manager or device manager. Any ideas?
thanks
Thanks, one thing to note is some of these adapters have limitations as to what size drives they will recognize. For instance one of my modified adapters wont read 3.5 drives larger than 2tb. Not sure if this is the problem you are having but possibly.
Oh yeah and make sure the data wires havent broken. Mine were soldered really badly and handling the board could break the joints.
Had the same problem with one of these cables. Try to plug the cables into the usb ports on the back of your pc. The ports on the front of my pc wont deliver enough power :)
@@SiLenCce_de Why would the ports not have enough power? The drive is already being powered by 12v!
@@VerbindingMislukt I really dont know. But I couldn't get it to work with the front ports
question? will a usb hub work with 4 say 1tb 3.5in hdd
No reason I can see why it wouldn't so long as each drive receives sufficient power.
does the last three pins have to be soldered to 12v or only one is enough?
One will technically probably be fine but two or three would be better.
which ac adaptor brand was best. Do you have any suggestions?
I dont know the brand of the adapter I used off the top of my head unfortunately. I would suggest though you get one for a good branf wifi router like linksys or belkin so long as the voltage is correct and the current is greater than what is on the drive's label.
very nice
The procedure is the same weather it is a usb 2.0 or 3.0 cable right?
Yep
Can you make a video like this but for an IDE Drive? That would be awesome.
IDE usb adapters dont provide any power at all. You have to buy a separate wall adapter to 4 pin molex or use a spare atx supply to provide power.
Hey, I want to do something similar but internally in a thin client by taking the 5v from a usb header (or somewhere else) and the 12volt externally. I'll connect those in a sata power cable and then, use the sata data cable. Will it work?
Yep it'll work
@@sjm4306 Cool, I'll update you when the parts arrive!
Well, turns out that the board did have a internal floppy connector. So I made an adaptor and I'm good. Although other skus don't have the connector.
I was lucky...
Thanks again.