I find the whole sailing culture is fascinating to me. When I can get past what it takes to finance this life, I admire how positive the whole vibe around sailing is even with all the challenges. Thanks for the videos. Peace to you and owners.
Love the Taping of the Screws idea. Another pro-tip. If you have a device with a lot of ports to plug things into, but only a few are being used, and you have to move or replace the device. Put a piece of tape over all the unused ports. Back when PCs had a variety of ports beyond just USB, I’d tell people this trick when they needed to relocate a PC. Made plugging it back together much easier, assuming you’re not an expert on what all the cables are for.
16:30 If it's a hard plastic piece just use a soldering iron on the brass insert nut. Just heat it up with the iron tip while pushing it in. The surrounding plastic should melt when you push the hot nut in and grabs it when it cools down . This is what people use on 3d printed parts when they need to constantly open up a project without risking the chance of the plastic striping out or cracking . They also sell a special soldering iron tip that's meant to heat the insert nut more evenly and faster but it's unnecessary unless you're doing a lot of these at a time and want to save some time . CNC Kitchen made a video about this if you need to check it out .
Really good vid, very much enjoy all the boat projects. When you repaired the hatch, that threaded insert is designed to be inserted under heat, use a soldering iron and push the tip into the thread then push it in with little force. The plastic melts around it and hardens making good mechanical contact with the knarled edges. They are used a lot in 3D printing projects. Hope this helps.
The two of you have magically created a format that is of great interest to anyone with an interest in travel...especially marine travels. Your tag line "gone with the wynns" is fitting and easy recall. You are blessed with the perfect chemistry, sparky attitude and pleasing results. Don`t burn out...save time for your enjoyment. You have obviously become successful at what you are doing. Thanks for adding so much to the lives of your viewers.
"We're in the US so it's easy to get them replaced" ah yes, the real reason to travel to the US...not to see national parks or Disney World, but to get spare parts 🤣. The ship horn censor at 2:59 is chef's kiss. Sure you ran into problems, but that doesn't change the fact this is still a neat piece of engineering. Yoshimi as in Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips? GREAT NAME for a dog!! Yoshimi is so adorable! Wish I could put my arm through the screen to pet her! LOVE St. Augustine and all its cool history. I mean it says a lot when it was founded in 1565 and is still thriving today! The place may be touristy, but it wasn't always like this. For quite some time in the 1880s, the city was actually neglected until railroad tycoon Henry Flagler came in to build the city up. He built a large number of opulent hotels and promoted the town as a winter resort for the elite of the north to escape the cold. So St. Augustine used to be a railway destination! Atlantic City and Coney Island also became popular seaside places because of trains!
I also LOVE St Augustine, the surrounding area and inland waterways are fabulous. So much more history than you described, that was a very cool era of development but the PIRATES is what I liked best, that and the oldest pharmacy, I must have spent a hundred bucks in there 😂😂
St. Augustine fun facts: St. Augustine's location was chosen by the Spanish due to it being easy to defend as well as having easily accessible freshwater. St. Augustine is not only the oldest continuously occupied city in the US, but it also has the narrowest street in the country! Treasury Street is only 7 feet wide! It connects the Royal Spanish Treasury to where the ships dock on the bay. This street was actually made to be narrow on purpose so thieves would find it too difficult to remove and escape with chests of gold from the treasury. The city's fort has had THREE different names as well rather than sticking to one. Castillo de San Marcos (by the Spanish), Fort St. Mark (by the British), and Fort Marion (by Americans).Congress restored the fort's original name in 1942.
One little tip of my own, if people do not have that fancy tool yet on their boat: The siphon principle can be used just as successfully in reverse, by blowing into the tank, that you want empty. You need to make the hole airtight, for instance by wrapping a wet cloth around the tube and the neck of the petrol can or tank. I learned that by watching another TH-camr, by the way. All, who has ever tasted gasoline or even worse diesel trying to start the siphon principle by suction, can see the value on that idea. Thanks for doing this one on boat problems, without making it a slander piece against Neel. I feel, that Neel is hugely underrated as it is, thanks to some catamaran review channels in the past, who talked very negative about Neel in their reviews. Neel is absolutely on my top list of boats, if I won the lottery, only shared most likely with Windelo 54 really.
I'll keep this simple and respectful. The owner of the boat "Craig? Is a very, very lucky fellow. Honestly the other guy Jason?" Also very lucky. Great boat and cool video!
It’s funny that the people you meet sailing seem like my kind of people. Friendly, nice, well spoken and then they go away. I have a hard time with friendships. I prefer a lot of personal space. Getting together for a bit and then parting ways for a period fits me. My fiancée would take a road trip into hell with me, she is so committed to me. So then it’s became my personal mission to make sure the path I take is as smooth as possible because I don’t want her to ever question following me. I had dreams of sailing and now I’m not sure that’s a great idea for us. So I want to thank you so much for giving me a first hand look at the adventures I won’t experience. The repairs on the boats do not scare me since I’m very handy with tools. The sea does not scare me (for the most part) since I have many days and weeks commercial fishing on the Pacific Ocean, along with living for 50 years on the Oregon coast. I literally grew up where people come to vacation. Please keep sharing your adventures with us❤
So excited that you are on a Neel doing this series. I have been dying to hear about the tri from experienced sailors. So good to hear this couple’s enthusiasm about the boat. The new 52 may just convince my Sylvia to give a thumbs up to the circumnavigation retirement project !
If you're interested in Neel trimarans and what experienced sailors think of them, you should check out a TH-cam channel called "Carry On Sailing." The channel features a Neel 51 and the owner talks about pretty much all aspects of the vessel, taking it into really heavy seas, etc. Another channel is called "Sail Oceans," and features the first prototype Neel trimaran and the family who own and sail her. They've done just about everything imaginable with that boat, and are currently refitting it (in Poland, I think) to do it all again. A lot of people like to bash Neel for the quality problems they had early on (they're still a relatively young company), but Neel addressed those issues head on, made them right, and improved the following designs to make their boats even better. By comparison, people don't seem to talk about the thousands of people who've suffered catastrophic bulkhead failure on Lagoon catamarans (which have been around a lot longer than Neel). Doing your own due diligence prior to a purchase of this magnitude is a foregone conclusion. Just don't be swayed by people who like to talk trash without actually owning a boat of any kind. The Neel 51 has been kind of the sweet spot, design wise, for me, so it'll be interesting to see what the 52 brings to the table. So far, the pre-release pics look a lot like the 51, but will have to wait and see. Launching in September 2023, I think.
@@meadmaker4525 Hi Meadmaker. Thanks so much for your counter point. I was wondering about the bad rap that Neel was getting given how young they are and the completely unique design they are pioneering. There was also a 5 part series by Captain Igor who delivered a 51 across the Atlantic and had vey positive things to say. The new design will appeal mor to my Sylvia with it’s dressing room, larger head and better storage in the ama below the owner’s cabin. I also like the fly lounge. In the end I just love the look of this vessel. It’s a purely emotional reaction…but isn’t that half of sailing. Lol. Thanks for watching and especially for commenting!!
@@sailingkelpie Thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to send this!! I had watched Igor’s 5 part series on crossing the Atlantic in a 51. He is a very experienced captain and had very positive things to say about the boat in general and particularly about its behaviours in heavy seas. I get the mechanical space love, but my beloved dose not care, and if momma ain’t happy, Dave is going nowhere. The dressing room and bigger head are all that counts. Lol!! I so appreciate your note. Thanks again! Let’s stay in touch.
I love the little gas pump. We use ours to refill the generator when PG&E is out. Love it. We were so happy to see it on your show. Just keep AA batteries in stock. Cheers 🙂
Nice boat, cute couple and great boat dog. We are lucky to also have a great boat dog (Sniff) and cat (Scratch) on board. Our cat hasn't left the boat except for vet visits in 2 years, but seems content to find a warm place to nap (he's 13 years old.) We noticed the bed was against the boat sides, meaning the person sleeping on the inside has to climb over the other person or shimmy to the end to get out of bed. That's how our Pullman berth is on a 38'er. As we get older we tend to get up in the middle of the night more often and it becomes more strenuous over time. It is not an issue for the younger couple now. But, they were talking about another boat in 5 to 10 years, so they might want to consider a walk around bed on the next one. I'm guessing that trimaran cost roughly 100X what we paid for our Islander. The bed issue would have been a solid "no go" for us, as if we would ever have a choice. Wishing you safe passages and fabulous adventures.
Those brass inserts are called "heat inserts" in the 3D printer space we use a solder iron to insert them you may gain the adhesion needed by resetting with a solder iron
Yeah, but you don't use them anywhere that might have tension as eventually they will pull out. What it should have been is a barrel nut that can't pull through. Poor design.
@@mrbilky To be fair, I was expecting this to be a £1m boat and it is 'only' £500k and there are lots of things to like about it (Except of course I prefer monohulls for actual sailing!) But Sailing Ruby Rose had an interesting review on it which seems to be reflected in the Wynns experience, and that is build quality... It very lightweight, but that is because of the cheap fittings and lack of 'proper' engineering... e.g. you don't screw a charge controller straight to a fibreglass bulkhead, you have a mounting panel that absorbs vibration and allows you to route cables, you use really good quality (e.g. Harken) fittings on your mainsail... These things cost money and weigh more!
The dry push will probably fail, i don't think just heating it with a soldering iron will guarantee it either, I think i would try a hose clamp to compress the outer plastic when applying heat, or just leave the hose clamp on, that two have failed says this is an issue, so i would also be contacting the hatch manufacturer.
@@AM-jw1lo If you had no choice but to repair the hatch (rather then replace the cheap mounting they have used for the strut) the only real repair would be to drill and countersink it from the outside, then replace the threaded part by pushing a barrel nut in from the top, gluing the flange. That would give a permanent fix... Until the cheap plastic degrades in the sunlight and falls to bits!
That diesel filler is genius. And the filler location on the Neel absolutely sucks. I can't imagine filling up with jerrucans without that genius contraption. Are you aware that they make Allen drill bits that fit on your drill? All sizes of course. Life changer!!!!
Yes. That IS a submarine, hard to tell what class it is. I'm no expert .I can't imagine it being military, maybe. It is a hurricane...😮it seems to be attached to the crane, with a pretty comprehensive bumper ring, wonder if it survived?
Another great video by Wynns! Sorry to be "Debbie Downer-SNL". 🤣Many expect a new catamaran or trimaran to be problem-free from the factory. That's a simple false assumption the uninitiated make about yachts. At best Neel factory can produce 1 boat every 4 weeks so that's about 12 per year. It's impossible for yachts to obtain the reliability of a car factory. So, there will be many warrantee issues to resolve with the factory or the owner over time. Often a new yacht sports more frustrating issues than a used boat. The more technology complexities installed the worse the repair situation becomes. You can't just hire any hillbilly or DIY with a soldering iron to make electrical repairs. The Neel factory in La Rochelle, FR should be notified and approve repairs to avoid canceling the warranty contract. Any changes could potentially void the factory warranty. If there were an electrical fire on this boat, especially with 48V lithium and an Integral generator, in a heartbeat cost over 170K euros in damages. The carbon fiber mast is an expensive 30K euro option for the Neel. I find it disturbing they are having issues with the main sail cars. If this Neel was sailed to the US by a delivery crew, the skipper should have tightened the eye bolt before it became a stripped-out mess. The captain should have monitored the sails and rigging like a hawk during the passage on a new boat.
Just watchung him using the allen key/hex key to tighten the screw on the hatch, if you use the long end to run it up, then the short end to tighten it, you will find it a bit easier and much quicker.
True of any home. Boat, land, or in the road homes never run out of things to repair. 💝🙏💝 prayers for you and your family and friends, your new home soon!
It’s interesting what some people value compared to others. I personally would rather sleep in the hulls and have a large open plan cabin. I think you wake up for 10 mins per day but use the cockpit 50-70% of the time.
i had the hull number 5 of the first ones, in a charter fleet, I ad a lot of problems with it, most outrageous was when they installed thru hulls, this is a sandwich boat, they cut both in ant out hull skins but just installed those 2 part epoxy like plasticine, in a roughly donut shape then installed the thru hull ( not the right way to do it) and at one point I was installing a bilge air fan, I went to install a screw to hold the air hose on the side of the engine, when I drilled it the fiberglass engine cradle went on full pissing ! the balsa cored hull was full of water, the boat is now out of the water and totally scrap as most of the balsa is wet, I also change the bow thruster two times as the chain locker fitted on top of it, the boat had no channels to any pump to evacuate the water, and finally the mast, and all the deck mounted accessories were poorly installed so I had to put sikaflex all around,,, the genoa and the staysail had no halyard and you had to climb up the mast to haul down the sails, I like the design and to live on board pretty cool, it was not rented a lot so il lived on it for at least a year and using in on my day off, I hope they got better with time ! love your channel !
That's honestly terrifying. Have heard other horror stories about some of the other early ones as well. Maybe the fixed things? All I know is I won't be the one to find out...
I think you’re kidding but I believe the singular is pronounced aahmah and plural is aahmaz. I think the term originates from the multihull designs found in the South Pacific. Always fun watching.
In watching the latest Nautguys post I have a suggestion. I think you need to choose the place to sail to as the closest spot from where you take delivery of your boat to being outside the typhoon area. That means Borneo. From there you can either explore Borneo or move further into Indonesia. If you sail around the north end of Borneo you have a different set of options than if you sail down the Malaysia/Brunei side which would be the safer route..
I originally moved this boat for them from San Juan to Charleston. Everything you found wrong went wrong. The leaking hatches needed new brackets. They wouldnt tighten down. The spin halyard snapped and took both of us to pull in when it let go. It ragdolled me and my crew mate. Your hatch repairs didnt hold up. I am taking them apart again and fixing them properly with epoxy. I was very disappointed with the performance of the boat itself. I am currently moving it from st augustine to Nassau Bahamas. I moved their catamaran also and set the speed record for bavaria on it and got a plaque from them. I own Captain Degas Marine Services
Sunday morning coffee and cinnamon oatmeal with the Wynns, watching them experience #TrimaranLife... can it get any better? Also: "You take this phallic looking thingy..." "And you put it in the hole?" "...Yeah. And you screw it.... naturally..." *Jason loses it* 🤣🤣🤣
While cruising, we heard a number of stories about Neels. The gist seemed to focus on inconsistent build quality. The live aboard quality is unquestionable though
This video demonstrates how there are always compromises in some small part or thing in place of something superior even on a boat seemingly where no expense was spared. There is even room for gadgets like an electronic battery operated device to assist in adding a spot of fuel.
Loctite must be applied on ALL threads of BOTH NUT & BOLT. Otherwise you just wipe it off as you thread it in and you end up with insufficient coverage. So apply liberally on both parts, ALL threads, wipe off excess afterwards.
To be fair, in MN it is common when it's only 30° to barbecue in shorts, T-shirt with 🧤, 🥾, winter hat. Not kidding TH-cam it!!!Cold is really relative...
Try putting your parts in zip lock sandwich bags, you can then write the name of project/ parts on bag with a permanent marker and either store them or tape them to project....also reusable and waterproof
Great owners great vessel.... Great Winn's!!! I seriously enjoyed this episode so much as I have this whole journey of getting to your New Vessel! Thanks for sharing your lives with us!! ✌🏼💗😊⛵
@@teeanahera8949 Yeah I Kno that dear...! In this episode Jason needed a winn so that's why it's spelled this way!! It's called a play on words...! 🤣😂✌🏼💗⛵
"So, what do you think happened?" As I mentioned last time, the boom vang's purpose is to relax the boom's tension stress along the mainsail's leech, allowing proper shaping of the sail. When the vang isn't providing enough support, particularly when the sheet is close-hauled, the tension on that top car can easily strip the threads like it did. "Tight knots are best removed using a knife." One can always whip the fresh end.
The car wasn’t attached before we hoisted the sail. So it was something that happened previous to our sail. We noticed it right away and didn’t hoist the sail until we consulted the owners.
Watching from the parking lot of Palisades ski area. Eating lunch after 8 miles of slopes this morning. Fantastic packed powder. Cheers from Northern California!!!
the problem with that winch binding and current solution is you have to thread the rope through a closed guide, maybe a hard point C type guide will work better as once locked off and tension release you could just move to next needed rope without pulling the length of rope out of the guide.
Neel's are a lot of boat (like huge) for the price. That generally means quality suffers, whether its fit and finish or hardware. Neels wants to sell you the huge living space, that it sails well, and is reasonably in price. The saying goes that's three points of a triangle, you only get two. Most pick price and huge living space.
Boats RVs anything that moves and travels on land or water I don’t have to tell you’ve been there on both sides of the coin they all have issues and you should be equipped to repair them or have deep pockets. Love your video.
Finally officially meeting that lovely pup (and his equally lovely parents)! Sorry to get personal… this non-sailor has to ask… where does he do his business while out at sea? Does he use a potty pad?
I took my cat Minx with me last summer on my boat. She uses the toilet. Great companion to have aboard and no litter box. Now if I could just train her to pump it. Lol.
Yoshi 🐕🦺 is so cute 🥰. Thanks guys for a great video. I love every minute of your video. Especially yoshi giving Jason a lovely kiss. Thanks Nikki and Jason. 👍🥰💚
It amazes me how many people chose a boat based on the master cabin. I chose a boat with sailing performance as the first priority and creature comforts came second...
For the acrylic chip that broke off there is an acrylic weld cement that will create a stronger bond than superglue. It basically chemically welds it’s like pvc cement.
When I see that electric fuel pump thing all I can think about is the time a friend and I needed to drain old gas from a car. We ended up placing open wires from it's fuel pump on a battery. So glad I didn't blow myself up for not having a product from Amazon.
I soooo ordered that fuel pump.That just solved a problem I was having engineering a hard Bimini/dodger for my boat because of where my fuel fills are. Thank you Nikki and Jason. Keep up the problem solving
I e got one at my house. We have several acres of grass and so go through a lot of gas. We used to spill it all the time, wasting plenty. Since getting the pump it is way easier and we haven’t spilled a drop! It also makes it easy to pull gas out of a piece of equipment when needed too. I love being able to just hook it up to fill up my mower and then do something else and the auto shut off feature stops pumping when it gets full, so I can check oil and such while it’s pumping instead of me trying to hold a heavy gas can steady while it fills. It’s a great purchase!!
Pretty cool video, I think a lot of these sailing channels over dramatize on going issues with their boats just to gain views. We own a 2020 Corsair 880 Sport Trimaran and have had zero issues with it. Seems like a lot stuff on TH-cam is fake. For me, it's just a form of entertainment without no just reward....
Nice. Loved the casual reporte with your Hosts, getting 'er Done, facilitating repairs together! Cool team wor k. The sweet Dog is an excellent addition, he is so in tune! That gas pump was awesome, I love that it did not waste a drop of Fuelit was so efficient; saved you from standing on your head to decant it into the onboard Tank! Cool Beans for sure, a classy addition to a boring chore. The backdrop of the St. Augustine Bridge made me want to drive up and find you! So close to me; I realize you are no longer there. Another Superb Video Sailing 101- Repairs! Love the Vista from the Master Suite, I can just imagine how amazing that is daily! Thank you for sharing this Sunday Morning escape for us landlubbers.
leaking hatch part pulled out of the molded button and really needs to be replaced with one that is properly formed around the brass threaded part inside the button, it will just be pulled out again.
A critical tool that no blue water boat should be without. Tap and die kit. Or you can keep spares of every fitting. So many stripped nuts and bolts can be saved with the tap and die, at least until you get to a well stocked port. Think of all the times that a project has come to a dead stop for want of a single bolt...
Not sure if you have already learned how to pronounce the Polynesian name for the outer hulls on a trimaran, but ama (singular) is pronounced “ah mah” plural is “ah mahz”. The connecting supports, aka, are pronounced “ah kah” (singular for one) or “ah kahz” for more than one.
Terrific video. Neels are high on my wish list too. There's a real opportunity here for someone with a wood shop. Make custom table tops for the various >$500k boats, ship them around the world. When I walked on the Seawind 1600 my first thought: "I want this boat" but most current performance multi-hulls are basically Ikea inside. (Maybe not the HH's...) My second thought was, get a sheet of that light weight structural foam, some really great veneer and make my own table top -- that has some character. It only takes a couple of nice details to take your eye off the Ikea.
15:30 - You should have dropped a little super glue around that insert to slow the pull-out in the future. It is out due to the pressure from the cylinder when the hatch is open.
The correct term for one of the side floats is “ama”. Therefore, two of them would be “amas”. This works be pronounced like “amaz”. It’s like the pronunciation of llama with the same plural form (1 llama, 2 llamas). Great videos!
I dont know if you know but you should not run the watermaker in or near coastal waters, besides it being contaminated more than seawater it might also lead to Shelly freshwater being produced.
The thread is molded into the plastic as an insert and if you tighten the screw too much, the insert will be torn out of the plastic button. You need to replace it. But be careful not to tighten the screw too much again. :-)
@20:04 The outrigger is an ama. Two outriggers are amas (plural). It's pronounced like the beginning of Amadeus Mozart. I was on a Hawaiian outrigger canoe racing team at one time and this is correct pronunciation and usage. I enjoy your content. Keep up the good work.
I think the beginnings of the trimaran was the out rigger canoe, a float outside the port and starboard sides to allow a canoe to ride rough water and surf. I don't think the trimaran idea is good on larger boats. The catamaran is far superior...
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I find the whole sailing culture is fascinating to me. When I can get past what it takes to finance this life, I admire how positive the whole vibe around sailing is even with all the challenges. Thanks for the videos. Peace to you and owners.
Love the Taping of the Screws idea. Another pro-tip. If you have a device with a lot of ports to plug things into, but only a few are being used, and you have to move or replace the device. Put a piece of tape over all the unused ports. Back when PCs had a variety of ports beyond just USB, I’d tell people this trick when they needed to relocate a PC. Made plugging it back together much easier, assuming you’re not an expert on what all the cables are for.
16:30 If it's a hard plastic piece just use a soldering iron on the brass insert nut. Just heat it up with the iron tip while pushing it in. The surrounding plastic should melt when you push the hot nut in and grabs it when it cools down . This is what people use on 3d printed parts when they need to constantly open up a project without risking the chance of the plastic striping out or cracking . They also sell a special soldering iron tip that's meant to heat the insert nut more evenly and faster but it's unnecessary unless you're doing a lot of these at a time and want to save some time . CNC Kitchen made a video about this if you need to check it out .
Really good vid, very much enjoy all the boat projects. When you repaired the hatch, that threaded insert is designed to be inserted under heat, use a soldering iron and push the tip into the thread then push it in with little force. The plastic melts around it and hardens making good mechanical contact with the knarled edges. They are used a lot in 3D printing projects. Hope this helps.
Great tip, thanks!!!
What great advice. I’m amazed at the help and advice that the TH-cam audience bring to creators. Glad I scanned the comments. Thanks!
Check on mcmaster. They have the hest set inserts with a Hering bone pattern that won't pull out that easy
The knurled brass/threaded insert gets pulled out of the knob by over-tightening the knob. Just snug it down enough to make it seal.
Crazy glueing the insert would be a temporary fix.
There’s always room for another sailing channel, especially a trimaran driven one! Do it, Katy and Craig! Cheers 🍻
Thanks for the extra 💙💛💙!
We agree! Katy and Craig would be a fun addition to the lineup. But at least they share on Instagram so we can see what they are up to.
Why didn’t you just swap ends on the Allen wrench so you could leave it in the screw as you tightened up the screw?
The two of you have magically created a format that is of great interest to anyone with an interest in travel...especially marine travels. Your tag line "gone with the wynns" is fitting and easy recall. You are blessed with the perfect chemistry, sparky attitude and pleasing results. Don`t burn out...save time for your enjoyment. You have obviously become successful at what you are doing. Thanks for adding so much to the lives of your viewers.
"We're in the US so it's easy to get them replaced" ah yes, the real reason to travel to the US...not to see national parks or Disney World, but to get spare parts 🤣. The ship horn censor at 2:59 is chef's kiss. Sure you ran into problems, but that doesn't change the fact this is still a neat piece of engineering. Yoshimi as in Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips? GREAT NAME for a dog!! Yoshimi is so adorable! Wish I could put my arm through the screen to pet her!
LOVE St. Augustine and all its cool history. I mean it says a lot when it was founded in 1565 and is still thriving today! The place may be touristy, but it wasn't always like this. For quite some time in the 1880s, the city was actually neglected until railroad tycoon Henry Flagler came in to build the city up. He built a large number of opulent hotels and promoted the town as a winter resort for the elite of the north to escape the cold. So St. Augustine used to be a railway destination! Atlantic City and Coney Island also became popular seaside places because of trains!
I also LOVE St Augustine, the surrounding area and inland waterways are fabulous. So much more history than you described, that was a very cool era of development but the PIRATES is what I liked best, that and the oldest pharmacy, I must have spent a hundred bucks in there 😂😂
MN here, thanks for the shout out! Confirmed, it is way colder than St. Augustine. Thanks for the episode. Makes me want to sail right now!
St. Augustine fun facts: St. Augustine's location was chosen by the Spanish due to it being easy to defend as well as having easily accessible freshwater. St. Augustine is not only the oldest continuously occupied city in the US, but it also has the narrowest street in the country! Treasury Street is only 7 feet wide! It connects the Royal Spanish Treasury to where the ships dock on the bay. This street was actually made to be narrow on purpose so thieves would find it too difficult to remove and escape with chests of gold from the treasury.
The city's fort has had THREE different names as well rather than sticking to one. Castillo de San Marcos (by the Spanish), Fort St. Mark (by the British), and Fort Marion (by Americans).Congress restored the fort's original name in 1942.
Oh I love Katies Scottish accent!
She is a doll! We love them both to bits.
One little tip of my own, if people do not have that fancy tool yet on their boat: The siphon principle can be used just as successfully in reverse, by blowing into the tank, that you want empty. You need to make the hole airtight, for instance by wrapping a wet cloth around the tube and the neck of the petrol can or tank. I learned that by watching another TH-camr, by the way. All, who has ever tasted gasoline or even worse diesel trying to start the siphon principle by suction, can see the value on that idea. Thanks for doing this one on boat problems, without making it a slander piece against Neel. I feel, that Neel is hugely underrated as it is, thanks to some catamaran review channels in the past, who talked very negative about Neel in their reviews. Neel is absolutely on my top list of boats, if I won the lottery, only shared most likely with Windelo 54 really.
It’s Sunday morning! If you’re not watching the Wynns then what else could you possibly be doing.😊⛵️
Getting laid!
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I'll keep this simple and respectful. The owner of the boat "Craig? Is a very, very lucky fellow. Honestly the other guy Jason?" Also very lucky. Great boat and cool video!
Yeah, definitely agree
I feel like the "easy Wynn" joke in there is just too, well, easy. That being said, I did get a little giggle out of it every time, so thanks🤭
Love hearing the authentic accent of my homeland.
It’s funny that the people you meet sailing seem like my kind of people. Friendly, nice, well spoken and then they go away. I have a hard time with friendships. I prefer a lot of personal space. Getting together for a bit and then parting ways for a period fits me. My fiancée would take a road trip into hell with me, she is so committed to me. So then it’s became my personal mission to make sure the path I take is as smooth as possible because I don’t want her to ever question following me. I had dreams of sailing and now I’m not sure that’s a great idea for us. So I want to thank you so much for giving me a first hand look at the adventures I won’t experience. The repairs on the boats do not scare me since I’m very handy with tools. The sea does not scare me (for the most part) since I have many days and weeks commercial fishing on the Pacific Ocean, along with living for 50 years on the Oregon coast. I literally grew up where people come to vacation. Please keep sharing your adventures with us❤
So excited that you are on a Neel doing this series. I have been dying to hear about the tri from experienced sailors. So good to hear this couple’s enthusiasm about the boat. The new 52 may just convince my Sylvia to give a thumbs up to the circumnavigation retirement project !
Don't buy Neel please research the horror stories of Neel,s shockingly bad build quality!!!
I second that comment, don’t even think of buying a Neel, they are garbage! Worst build nightmare stories of any builder!
If you're interested in Neel trimarans and what experienced sailors think of them, you should check out a TH-cam channel called "Carry On Sailing." The channel features a Neel 51 and the owner talks about pretty much all aspects of the vessel, taking it into really heavy seas, etc. Another channel is called "Sail Oceans," and features the first prototype Neel trimaran and the family who own and sail her. They've done just about everything imaginable with that boat, and are currently refitting it (in Poland, I think) to do it all again.
A lot of people like to bash Neel for the quality problems they had early on (they're still a relatively young company), but Neel addressed those issues head on, made them right, and improved the following designs to make their boats even better. By comparison, people don't seem to talk about the thousands of people who've suffered catastrophic bulkhead failure on Lagoon catamarans (which have been around a lot longer than Neel). Doing your own due diligence prior to a purchase of this magnitude is a foregone conclusion. Just don't be swayed by people who like to talk trash without actually owning a boat of any kind.
The Neel 51 has been kind of the sweet spot, design wise, for me, so it'll be interesting to see what the 52 brings to the table. So far, the pre-release pics look a lot like the 51, but will have to wait and see. Launching in September 2023, I think.
@@meadmaker4525 Hi Meadmaker. Thanks so much for your counter point. I was wondering about the bad rap that Neel was getting given how young they are and the completely unique design they are pioneering. There was also a 5 part series by Captain Igor who delivered a 51 across the Atlantic and had vey positive things to say. The new design will appeal mor to my Sylvia with it’s dressing room, larger head and better storage in the ama below the owner’s cabin. I also like the fly lounge. In the end I just love the look of this vessel. It’s a purely emotional reaction…but isn’t that half of sailing. Lol. Thanks for watching and especially for commenting!!
@@sailingkelpie Thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to send this!! I had watched Igor’s 5 part series on crossing the Atlantic in a 51. He is a very experienced captain and had very positive things to say about the boat in general and particularly about its behaviours in heavy seas.
I get the mechanical space love, but my beloved dose not care, and if momma ain’t happy, Dave is going nowhere. The dressing room and bigger head are all that counts. Lol!! I so appreciate your note. Thanks again! Let’s stay in touch.
I love the little gas pump. We use ours to refill the generator when PG&E is out. Love it. We were so happy to see it on your show. Just keep AA batteries in stock.
Cheers 🙂
Nice boat, cute couple and great boat dog. We are lucky to also have a great boat dog (Sniff) and cat (Scratch) on board. Our cat hasn't left the boat except for vet visits in 2 years, but seems content to find a warm place to nap (he's 13 years old.)
We noticed the bed was against the boat sides, meaning the person sleeping on the inside has to climb over the other person or shimmy to the end to get out of bed. That's how our Pullman berth is on a 38'er. As we get older we tend to get up in the middle of the night more often and it becomes more strenuous over time. It is not an issue for the younger couple now. But, they were talking about another boat in 5 to 10 years, so they might want to consider a walk around bed on the next one. I'm guessing that trimaran cost roughly 100X what we paid for our Islander. The bed issue would have been a solid "no go" for us, as if we would ever have a choice.
Wishing you safe passages and fabulous adventures.
Those brass inserts are called "heat inserts" in the 3D printer space we use a solder iron to insert them you may gain the adhesion needed by resetting with a solder iron
Yeah, but you don't use them anywhere that might have tension as eventually they will pull out. What it should have been is a barrel nut that can't pull through. Poor design.
@@SailingAquamarine Yeah correct but as you know we can't fix stupid only live with it until that new design comes forward
@@mrbilky To be fair, I was expecting this to be a £1m boat and it is 'only' £500k and there are lots of things to like about it (Except of course I prefer monohulls for actual sailing!) But Sailing Ruby Rose had an interesting review on it which seems to be reflected in the Wynns experience, and that is build quality... It very lightweight, but that is because of the cheap fittings and lack of 'proper' engineering... e.g. you don't screw a charge controller straight to a fibreglass bulkhead, you have a mounting panel that absorbs vibration and allows you to route cables, you use really good quality (e.g. Harken) fittings on your mainsail... These things cost money and weigh more!
The dry push will probably fail, i don't think just heating it with a soldering iron will guarantee it either, I think i would try a hose clamp to compress the outer plastic when applying heat, or just leave the hose clamp on, that two have failed says this is an issue, so i would also be contacting the hatch manufacturer.
@@AM-jw1lo If you had no choice but to repair the hatch (rather then replace the cheap mounting they have used for the strut) the only real repair would be to drill and countersink it from the outside, then replace the threaded part by pushing a barrel nut in from the top, gluing the flange. That would give a permanent fix... Until the cheap plastic degrades in the sunlight and falls to bits!
Your right. I’m in Minnesota.
That diesel filler is genius. And the filler location on the Neel absolutely sucks. I can't imagine filling up with jerrucans without that genius contraption.
Are you aware that they make Allen drill bits that fit on your drill? All sizes of course. Life changer!!!!
Plus, it would be smarter to insert the straight end and turn with the 90° end. It appeared long enough to clear obstructions. KISS, always.
Hang on just a hot minute there! In the short clip of Supernova riding out the hurricane, was that a freaking SUBMARINE at 8:45 into the episode?
Yes. That IS a submarine, hard to tell what class it is. I'm no expert .I can't imagine it being military, maybe. It is a hurricane...😮it seems to be attached to the crane, with a pretty comprehensive bumper ring, wonder if it survived?
Another great video by Wynns! Sorry to be "Debbie Downer-SNL". 🤣Many expect a new catamaran or trimaran to be problem-free from the factory. That's a simple false assumption the uninitiated make about yachts. At best Neel factory can produce 1 boat every 4 weeks so that's about 12 per year. It's impossible for yachts to obtain the reliability of a car factory. So, there will be many warrantee issues to resolve with the factory or the owner over time. Often a new yacht sports more frustrating issues than a used boat. The more technology complexities installed the worse the repair situation becomes. You can't just hire any hillbilly or DIY with a soldering iron to make electrical repairs. The Neel factory in La Rochelle, FR should be notified and approve repairs to avoid canceling the warranty contract. Any changes could potentially void the factory warranty. If there were an electrical fire on this boat, especially with 48V lithium and an Integral generator, in a heartbeat cost over 170K euros in damages. The carbon fiber mast is an expensive 30K euro option for the Neel. I find it disturbing they are having issues with the main sail cars. If this Neel was sailed to the US by a delivery crew, the skipper should have tightened the eye bolt before it became a stripped-out mess. The captain should have monitored the sails and rigging like a hawk during the passage on a new boat.
Just watchung him using the allen key/hex key to tighten the screw on the hatch, if you use the long end to run it up, then the short end to tighten it, you will find it a bit easier and much quicker.
True of any home. Boat, land, or in the road homes never run out of things to repair. 💝🙏💝 prayers for you and your family and friends, your new home soon!
It’s interesting what some people value compared to others. I personally would rather sleep in the hulls and have a large open plan cabin. I think you wake up for 10 mins per day but use the cockpit 50-70% of the time.
@GonewiththeWynn. why are you trying to imitate the Wynns and scam people?
Exactly! I hate the layout of this boat. I would not be able to live on board for more than a couple of hours.
i had the hull number 5 of the first ones, in a charter fleet, I ad a lot of problems with it, most outrageous was when they installed thru hulls, this is a sandwich boat, they cut both in ant out hull skins but just installed those 2 part epoxy like plasticine, in a roughly donut shape then installed the thru hull ( not the right way to do it) and at one point I was installing a bilge air fan, I went to install a screw to hold the air hose on the side of the engine, when I drilled it the fiberglass engine cradle went on full pissing ! the balsa cored hull was full of water, the boat is now out of the water and totally scrap as most of the balsa is wet, I also change the bow thruster two times as the chain locker fitted on top of it, the boat had no channels to any pump to evacuate the water, and finally the mast, and all the deck mounted accessories were poorly installed so I had to put sikaflex all around,,, the genoa and the staysail had no halyard and you had to climb up the mast to haul down the sails, I like the design and to live on board pretty cool, it was not rented a lot so il lived on it for at least a year and using in on my day off,
I hope they got better with time ! love your channel !
Debbie Downer here!🤣the Neel 47 is constructed with foam cores, not balsa wood.
@@jessapearlsailing7443 that is way better ! Hope you did not have as much problems !
That's honestly terrifying. Have heard other horror stories about some of the other early ones as well. Maybe the fixed things? All I know is I won't be the one to find out...
I think you’re kidding but I believe the singular is pronounced aahmah and plural is aahmaz. I think the term originates from the multihull designs found in the South Pacific. Always fun watching.
In watching the latest Nautguys post I have a suggestion. I think you need to choose the place to sail to as the closest spot from where you take delivery of your boat to being outside the typhoon area. That means Borneo. From there you can either explore Borneo or move further into Indonesia. If you sail around the north end of Borneo you have a different set of options than if you sail down the Malaysia/Brunei side which would be the safer route..
thanks, really getting a good picture of life on a sailboat :)
You guys crack me up. A phallis in the hole, hysterical. Keep the videos coming, I love your channel.
Katie's modifications on the Neal are brilliant!
I originally moved this boat for them from San Juan to Charleston. Everything you found wrong went wrong. The leaking hatches needed new brackets. They wouldnt tighten down. The spin halyard snapped and took both of us to pull in when it let go. It ragdolled me and my crew mate. Your hatch repairs didnt hold up. I am taking them apart again and fixing them properly with epoxy. I was very disappointed with the performance of the boat itself. I am currently moving it from st augustine to Nassau Bahamas. I moved their catamaran also and set the speed record for bavaria on it and got a plaque from them. I own Captain Degas Marine Services
These two guys are winning. Holy smokes.
Sunday morning coffee and cinnamon oatmeal with the Wynns, watching them experience #TrimaranLife... can it get any better?
Also:
"You take this phallic looking thingy..."
"And you put it in the hole?"
"...Yeah. And you screw it.... naturally..." *Jason loses it* 🤣🤣🤣
I love this! Y'all have the best community.
That was pretty awesome guys. Love the boat. Cute couple hope they do start a blog. Love their accents.
Omg Katie looks like come from 007 movies.
just saw a video of a guy sailing a 25' trimaran he built himself single handed to Hawaii . quite a difference and no commercials
While cruising, we heard a number of stories about Neels. The gist seemed to focus on inconsistent build quality. The live aboard quality is unquestionable though
This video demonstrates how there are always compromises in some small part or thing in place of something superior even on a boat seemingly where no expense was spared. There is even room for gadgets like an electronic battery operated device to assist in adding a spot of fuel.
Loved your sit down on Nautiguys and looking forward to part 2.
Loctite must be applied on ALL threads of BOTH NUT & BOLT. Otherwise you just wipe it off as you thread it in and you end up with insufficient coverage. So apply liberally on both parts, ALL threads, wipe off excess afterwards.
RVs are the same way, new or old you’re always going to have things you have to fix and adjust and want to improve.
Lol 😂 I am in Minnesota and was thinking exactly that - you’re in shorts, it’s not cold. 😉 I’m just envious. ❤️
To be fair, in MN
it is common when it's only 30°
to barbecue in shorts, T-shirt with 🧤, 🥾, winter hat. Not kidding TH-cam it!!!Cold is really relative...
Try putting your parts in zip lock sandwich bags, you can then write the name of project/ parts on bag with a permanent marker and either store them or tape them to project....also reusable and waterproof
24:30 “A NYC Apartment” on the water. Champagne sailing, At it’s best!
I fell in love with a dog on this episode (during the commercial part when it's head was on the counter).
Great owners great vessel.... Great Winn's!!!
I seriously enjoyed this episode so much as I have this whole journey of getting to your New Vessel!
Thanks for sharing your lives with us!! ✌🏼💗😊⛵
*Wynns and no apostrophe.
@@teeanahera8949 Yeah I Kno that dear...! In this episode Jason needed a winn so that's why it's spelled this way!! It's called a play on words...! 🤣😂✌🏼💗⛵
"So, what do you think happened?" As I mentioned last time, the boom vang's purpose is to relax the boom's tension stress along the mainsail's leech, allowing proper shaping of the sail. When the vang isn't providing enough support, particularly when the sheet is close-hauled, the tension on that top car can easily strip the threads like it did.
"Tight knots are best removed using a knife." One can always whip the fresh end.
The car wasn’t attached before we hoisted the sail. So it was something that happened previous to our sail. We noticed it right away and didn’t hoist the sail until we consulted the owners.
Watching from the parking lot of Palisades ski area. Eating lunch after 8 miles of slopes this morning. Fantastic packed powder. Cheers from Northern California!!!
Next time use a soldering iron to melt that threaded insert into the plastic base.
Yep.
I am wearing more clothes inside my house then you are wearing on the boat!
the problem with that winch binding and current solution is you have to thread the rope through a closed guide, maybe a hard point C type guide will work better as once locked off and tension release you could just move to next needed rope without pulling the length of rope out of the guide.
What a lovely couple! And the dog was AWESOME! /Catta
Neel's are a lot of boat (like huge) for the price. That generally means quality suffers, whether its fit and finish or hardware. Neels wants to sell you the huge living space, that it sails well, and is reasonably in price. The saying goes that's three points of a triangle, you only get two. Most pick price and huge living space.
Wouldn't touch one with a bargepole..."proper" tri = Rapido. Or Dragonfly but they stop at 40'.
Boats RVs anything that moves and travels on land or water I don’t have to tell you’ve been there on both sides of the coin they all have issues and you should be equipped to repair them or have deep pockets. Love your video.
ha ha I laughed so much this episode. Love the double entendres you guys nail it
Finally officially meeting that lovely pup (and his equally lovely parents)! Sorry to get personal… this non-sailor has to ask… where does he do his business while out at sea? Does he use a potty pad?
That's the question I was wondering
Most dogs can be trained to use a piece of artificial turf, and after they go you just dunk it or rinse it off.
Curious Minion
@@gonewiththewynns okay thanks. The piece of artificial turf makes sense. Otherwise it’s a lot of potty pads! 🥴
I took my cat Minx with me last summer on my boat. She uses the toilet. Great companion to have aboard and no litter box. Now if I could just train her to pump it. Lol.
You guys have got the cutest dog ever!
I can't believe you use a screwdriver to loosen a tight knot and don't have a Victorinox Skipper in your pocket with its wonderful spike. 😂😂😂
Love the way Katie says the word "Boat!" I walking around trying to recreate the way she says it.
Send video, and thanks for the 💙💛💙
Can't wait for you to get you next boat!
Yoshi 🐕🦺 is so cute 🥰. Thanks guys for a great video. I love every minute of your video. Especially yoshi giving Jason a lovely kiss. Thanks Nikki and Jason. 👍🥰💚
It amazes me how many people chose a boat based on the master cabin. I chose a boat with sailing performance as the first priority and creature comforts came second...
This boat also has superior sailing performance to the nautitech 40
Jason and his phallic diesel bit! xD love Jason!
For the acrylic chip that broke off there is an acrylic weld cement that will create a stronger bond than superglue. It basically chemically welds it’s like pvc cement.
When I see that electric fuel pump thing all I can think about is the time a friend and I needed to drain old gas from a car. We ended up placing open wires from it's fuel pump on a battery. So glad I didn't blow myself up for not having a product from Amazon.
I soooo ordered that fuel pump.That just solved a problem I was having engineering a hard Bimini/dodger for my boat because of where my fuel fills are. Thank you Nikki and Jason. Keep up the problem solving
Seems good for the environment, too. Less spills.
I e got one at my house. We have several acres of grass and so go through a lot of gas. We used to spill it all the time, wasting plenty. Since getting the pump it is way easier and we haven’t spilled a drop! It also makes it easy to pull gas out of a piece of equipment when needed too.
I love being able to just hook it up to fill up my mower and then do something else and the auto shut off feature stops pumping when it gets full, so I can check oil and such while it’s pumping instead of me trying to hold a heavy gas can steady while it fills.
It’s a great purchase!!
So I am watching and I hear the Scottish Accent...Love love love the Scottish people.. Great friends..
Pretty cool video, I think a lot of these sailing channels over dramatize on going issues with their boats just to gain views. We own a 2020 Corsair 880 Sport Trimaran and have had zero issues with it. Seems like a lot stuff on TH-cam is fake. For me, it's just a form of entertainment without no just reward....
Nice. Loved the casual reporte with your Hosts, getting 'er Done, facilitating repairs together! Cool team wor k. The sweet Dog is an excellent addition, he is so in tune! That gas pump was awesome, I love that it did not waste a drop of Fuelit was so efficient; saved you from standing on your head to decant it into the onboard Tank! Cool Beans for sure, a classy addition to a boring chore. The backdrop of the St. Augustine Bridge made me want to drive up and find you! So close to me; I realize you are no longer there. Another Superb Video Sailing 101- Repairs! Love the Vista from the Master Suite, I can just imagine how amazing that is daily! Thank you for sharing this Sunday Morning escape for us landlubbers.
Don't worry about us in Minnesota. It's 19 degrees Fahrenheit today, so it's pleasant!
Lovely nikki looking great.miles to go before I sleep
YACHTING---- Translated into Layman language---- "Working on the Boat"..... Been there-Done that.
AG1 is great!! I add my protein, collagen, and mushroom powders to it. Super great taste.
Just finished up watching all of your videos. Wow what a ride you guys have had. Looking forward to your new adventures with your HH44. Stay safe.
Me too! Started in the RV stage. Great talented couple.
leaking hatch part pulled out of the molded button and really needs to be replaced with one that is properly formed around the brass threaded part inside the button, it will just be pulled out again.
Yep, Minnesotans agree, it's not cold. Many of us will be visiting Florida this winter to get some sun and thaw out. 🙂
Katy and Craig are going to have to race Riley and Elayna when they're both out there in their performance trimarans.
"Plumbers Goop" Seals everything. I adjust the end with the most room to move
A critical tool that no blue water boat should be without. Tap and die kit. Or you can keep spares of every fitting. So many stripped nuts and bolts can be saved with the tap and die, at least until you get to a well stocked port. Think of all the times that a project has come to a dead stop for want of a single bolt...
The "Calvary" has arrived? Cavalry! Thanks for the vid!
Not sure if you have already learned how to pronounce the Polynesian name for the outer hulls on a trimaran, but ama (singular) is pronounced “ah mah” plural is “ah mahz”. The connecting supports, aka, are pronounced “ah kah” (singular for one) or “ah kahz” for more than one.
Terrific video. Neels are high on my wish list too.
There's a real opportunity here for someone with a wood shop. Make custom table tops for the various >$500k boats, ship them around the world. When I walked on the Seawind 1600 my first thought: "I want this boat" but most current performance multi-hulls are basically Ikea inside. (Maybe not the HH's...) My second thought was, get a sheet of that light weight structural foam, some really great veneer and make my own table top -- that has some character. It only takes a couple of nice details to take your eye off the Ikea.
ANOTHER GOOD VIDEO TROOPS, GREAT TO SEE COUPLE OF FELLOW SCOTS, &NOT TO FORGET YOSHY,, RESPECT ML3,SCOT
Man, how in the world did Craig get a 10?!! Amazing, good job dude! 😎
First time seeing eight trimaran owner enjoying a long gown and fluffy slippers and designer dog!
15:30 - You should have dropped a little super glue around that insert to slow the pull-out in the future. It is out due to the pressure from the cylinder when the hatch is open.
@15:10 is that a heatset screw? Maybe you just need to get a soldering iron and melt it back into position.
15:00 They are freequently ment to be driven in with a solder iron (Heat). This way, the plastic around melts and fixes it in place.
They had a smart broker
The correct term for one of the side floats is “ama”. Therefore, two of them would be “amas”. This works be pronounced like “amaz”. It’s like the pronunciation of llama with the same plural form (1 llama, 2 llamas).
Great videos!
I dont know if you know but you should not run the watermaker in or near coastal waters, besides it being contaminated more than seawater it might also lead to Shelly freshwater being produced.
The thread is molded into the plastic as an insert and if you tighten the screw too much, the insert will be torn out of the plastic button. You need to replace it. But be careful not to tighten the screw too much again. :-)
Loved this!! Yoshi is adorable- awesome boat- awesome owners and awesome you guys❤
@20:04 The outrigger is an ama. Two outriggers are amas (plural). It's pronounced like the beginning of Amadeus Mozart. I was on a Hawaiian outrigger canoe racing team at one time and this is correct pronunciation and usage. I enjoy your content. Keep up the good work.
SHIP SHAPE is an impossible phrase......love your videos. John
I think the beginnings of the trimaran was the out rigger canoe, a float outside the port and starboard sides to allow a canoe to ride rough water and surf. I don't think the trimaran idea is good on larger boats. The catamaran is far superior...