KNOWING WHEN TO BAIL OUT
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- We were so sure this was going to be a grand sail that we invited 3 patrons along for the journey. Because why not, even misery loves company. But little did we know...
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Our first Boat Delivery continues as we’ve taken the helm of our friend's 47ft NEEL Trimaran, Supernova. We tackled all the repairs (from our first few days at sea) and set sail for what we thought would be a thrilling voyage.
We were so sure that this was going to be a grand sail that we invited 3 patrons along for the journey. Because why not, even misery loves company. But little did we know...
Expect the unexpected, for the winds of fate rarely blow in the direction we expect. I know this and yet, I still find myself flabbergasted on too many occasions. This week's sail was one of them. It was a humbling lesson in patience, perseverance, and making the tough decision to bail out.
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WE’RE JASON AND NIKKI WYNN. A couple of modern-day documentarians, perpetual travelers, and seekers of tall tales.
We’ve been chasing our curiosity around the world on wheels and keels since 2011. Why? Because curiosity is the key to unlocking life. It pushes us outside our comfort zone, softens our assumptions, and helps us embrace the great unknown. The more we let our curiosity lead the way, the more we discover about ourselves and the world around us.
Our home is also our transportation and we spend weeks away from civilization and sometimes land. Self-reliance and living a sustainable lifestyle are a must. It's all about managing our resources and we’re always looking for new and better ways to do so.
We've lived off the grid for over 10 years now in everything from a Van to RV to a Sailboat. And over time we have learned a lot about renewable energy, creating safe drinking water, and managing our waste.
Our journey is ever-evolving but the mission remains the same: #CultivateCuriosity
Timestamps if you like to Jump Around:
00:00 First Sailboat Delivery: NEEL 47 Trimaran
01:57 NEEL Dinghy Davits & First Crew Arrives
06:35 NEEL Mainsail Issues
08:41 Meet the New Crew Members
10:51 Lifting the Tender is a PAIN
12:38 Sailing out of St Augustine & Dolphins
16:14 Sails Out & MAJOR RUDDER ISSUES
17:59 Busted Main Jammer (Cam Clutch)
20:08 Forced Motorboat & Talk to NEEL
23:57 Detour For Repairs and Refuel
26:19 Knowing When To Bail Out
31:01 Sailing out of Cape Canaveral
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© Gone With the Wynns 2023
And what do we see Jason doing first thing at 49 seconds? WASHING DISHES.
😅😅😅😅😅 get Jason a dishwasher!
Lol
🤣
Jason is truly a man's man!!
Nikki loves controlling him. Lol
I know Kara’s story! Holy crap - she is an absolute LEGEND! What an honor to have her aboard.
The honor was all mine!
I thought the SAME thing, I was like wait a minute, she's that literal BAD A$$. Such a great idea, have some people jump aboard. Keep doing the work Kara.
I THOUGHT that was "Kara" when they first boarded but it was a split second fleeting thought followed by, "Seriously? What would she be doing on their boat?"
Your story is unbelievable and horrifying and so inspiring at the same time - I think I've been following you forever and send the biggest hugs and bestest juju and hopes and wishes for an amazing rest of your life because heaven knows girl, you have earned it! Keep up the good work and thank you for all you do. ❤️
Thank you so much ❤❤
For so much high tech on the boat, that dinghy lift is ridiculous! 😂 Definitely needs a redesign.
I'm pretty sure it's designed to use the boom to swing to the side. Blaming the boat for not knowing how to use it is pretty bad. Esp when they're getting paid by the competition (HH).
They don't have it hooked up to the correct part of the boom, there is an outer point where it is supposed to be lifted from which is behind the dinghy davits. Hence the rope at 11:23 that is used to pull the dinghy into the boat and onto the davits.
@@mdaddyclimbsaying Neel competes with HH is like saying Ferrari competes with dodge.
Part of doing a delivery is making the boat right for the owner. A lot of people get into the delivery business not realizing that. Keep at it Wynns. You'll benefit from this when you take delivery of you new boat, which you will also need to make right.
Thanks for filling us in on that - not knowing ANY of the protocol, I would have actually thought the opposite, meaning that if you hire someone to deliver your boat, all of those things should be figured out and it should be in tip-top shape. To me its like transporting a vehicle - it needs to be in running and working order? But it sounds like that isnt the case with boats.
@@ChickensForEggs Agreed. Boat delivery can come back and bite you. You get blamed for everything that’s not working or broken on the boat. As in “there was nothing wrong before, so you have to pay it” .
I recall a similar experience when Sailing Doodles (Bobby White) delivered a Beneteau monohull from Vancouver Island to Singapore. The sails had to be replaced. I sure as he'll wouldn't deliver an aircraft or boat unless they were shipshape or airworthy.
DISHWASHER DISHWASHER DISHWASHER (That's for you Jason!!!)
When removing the "car" from the mast, you can remove the screws from the small piece of track, but leave the track in place. Then roll the car onto the track and remove them together to hold the ball bearings in the car. Reverse to put the car back on.
wow that's a good one, thanks
Now you tell us!! 😆😉😎
@@gonewiththewynns lol!
@@gonewiththewynns I had the exact same reaction! LOL
Kudos to you Kara. Very brave young lady. Many blessings.
Thank you!
@@karachamberlain most welcome neighbor (nc) have a nice evening
@@karachamberlain try to get another ocean experience some day in the future. The nausea can be tamed and will make you feel good to overcome this obstacle.
One of the better episode since you’ve left your boat. Love to see the real problems and how you deal with them with Grace and optimism.
Hi great video. As regards sea sickness, for those who don't know sea sickness comes it two phases, 1st phase you are afraid you'll die, second phase you are afraid you won't.
Cheers Cliff.
Accurate. Lol
The generosity to tell a survivor's story even when she is struggling with what you have going on is benevolence, may we all strive to give some and find it when needed!!! And...Suz rocks... should be noted!!
My heart broke when Joe had to leave. He said he was packed for this trip three weeks before he boarded. The look in his eyes was so sad. He think he looked totally bummed. Please invite him/them out again. He really wanted to go on a passage with the innuWynnsdos. (It's not hard...) Love you guys. Keep up the good work.
I tried to get him to stay! 😭 it was his dream!
@@karachamberlain He did what every devoted partner should do. He’s pretty special to give up his wants and desires for the one he loves.
@@karachamberlain Perhaps he'll feel more comfortable at another time, and he can plan a GWTWs passage on his own without feeling like he's "walked away from his date", so to speak.
Terribly sorry about your seasickness, no fun at all. It is a very common affliction, I know many who can't even tolerate the large cruise ships that move very little.
Some shakedown issues:
1) The main halyard should be tied to the mainsail's head. Good - It is.
2) The top car should be tied to the mainsail's head just like the others. It is not. It should be, but check with the boat's manufacturer for their recommendation.
Note: You mentioned in a previous video the old car "broke out." While you replaced the car, unless you take additional steps, it could happen again.
3) When the boom vang is too taught, particularly when you're close-hauling past optimum, the tension imparted to the leach from the clew to the head can be immense, enough to rip the top car out of its track. I suspect that's what happened. Fix: Reduce tension on the boom vang.
4) Heading up in balanced sails is a sign of close-hauling past optimum. Fix: Sheet out.
It's normal for a trimaran to be a bit more sensitive to wind/sail pressure than a catamaran or a monohull. The trick is to avoid going for max performance and instead set both sails at or near optimum, but most importantly, balanced for your apparent wind angle. Pressure on the rudder (and autopilot) should be minimal.
Finally, my father's best advice: "Always use a torque wrench." He spent 26 years in aviation maintenance, and always kept 'em flying, safely, so I'm fairly certain he knew what he was talking about. He's the reason I've done all the maintenance on my own vehicles since high school.
It's a square top main. Likely their first time sailing with one. It's designed with that system so the top batten lays flat in the sail bag (it's sewn in at an angle to support the square top). Sounds like they needed an orientation or more skill. Blaming the boat is pretty low, esp. when they're getting paid by the competition (HH).
And that is why I cannot sail. Even with meds, the sickness is horrible. So glad she tried. Everyone pulling together was wonderful to see. ❤
I think there are other boat options. Check out nauti styles Bering episodes. They are building a Bering 75. It's a steel monohull. Very little movement unlike a cat.
@@ravenmoon1165 They are on a trimaran, not a cat so it feels more like a monohull. And if you have motion sickness size can matter too.
@@rumblechick73 I'm not an expert in any way, but aren't trimarans a lot worse for movement? They motor more like a monohull, but a monohull (sailboat) uses a deep heavy keel to resist roll. They've got a lot of momentum in the roll axis so they're often a lot smoother cutting through lateral waves, while tris use buoyancy to stabilize meaning they actually follow the waves much more aggressively. I've heard that the rapid rolling is even an issue when at anchor since the boat can slap back and forth even while stationary.
Any way, that was a terrible sea state for any noob to try to earn their sea legs in, regardless of hull type. Just bad luck.
@@EUC-lid I'd pretty much agree! Given my choice, the tri is the last boat I'd select for anything except speed.
Can feel Nikki's emotion at the end. Big virtual hug girl! (You too Jason!)
Kara. An amazing and inspirational person. Totally.
Thank you ❤
1:59 The bridge in the background is the Francis and Mary Usina Bridge. Francis and Mary Usina were civil leaders in the St. Augustine area. Just as the bridge spans the Tolomato River to connect the St. Augustine mainland with Vilano and North Beach, so too the Usinas were strong links between the communities. For half a century, Francis skippered the sightseeing vessel, Victory II, on Matanzas Bay, and with his wife Mary, he pioneered in development and improvement of North Beach as St. Augustine expanded to include that area. Francis lived from 1900 to 1973, while Mary lived from 1909 to 1989. The bridge was built in 1995.
Nikki's hair looks great curled! And I don't blame her for being excited to spend time with the dog! Seeing Yoshiro nearly drop her toy into the water made me laugh, she's like "Hurry up, I don't have all day!" 😂Yoshiro's just a ball of energy! I also don't blame Nikki for tearing up at the end. This is the first time I've heard about Kara and her story made me tear up too! What bravery to have the will to escape him! So resilient! Absolutely inspiring! What a legend.
Holy crap I know that case. Kara is an absolute legend
Motion sickness is no joke. I feel for her ❤ what an amazing person she is.
Nikki, I was so surprised at the end of the video when you were disappointed in your taping and editing. I was so interested in this video, and my adrenaline was off the charts. This is the first time I've watched a TH-cam video twice. I love how you and Jason treat the pup. So much respect for your sailing knowledge. You are ROCKING IT!
The strongest person is the one who knows when to ask for help. So many times we sit in the shadows not reaching out. All the best @Kara. you are strong talented lady. To the Wynns, you have hearts of gold and wish you the best in the journeys. Remember if it was easy everybody would do it. Your crushing it.
The halyard should go through the ring on the top car then to the head of the sail. That holds the top of the sail to the mast and provides tension to keep the flat top fair. The dyneema is just to pull the last few feet of the sail down into the stack pack.
Ah, Cape Canaveral. While famous for Kennedy Space Center, it's also a popular cruise port since it's the main port for Disney Cruise Line, founded in 1995 by former Disney CEO Michael Eisner (he's the reason why Disney had a renaissance in the 90s with new parks and mighty successful movies)! The cape's Merritt Island was once home to its own unique bird called the dusky seaside sparrow which went extinct in captivity at WDW in 1987. What happened? NASA wanted to lower the mosquito population around the space center, so they flooded the bird's marshes and their numbers plummeted. Highway construction further destroying their salt marshes didn't help either.
Seeing Jason sleeping with Yoshiro warmed my heart. And it's always magical to see wild dolphins! Remember, failure is part of success. In order to succeed, you must make mistakes along the way and learn from them.
SailingSuz was helpful all the way through!--rigging, dishes, etc. She knows her stuff!
I am 100% sure Kara was Dehydrated From the start...We have found that if you drink plenty of water and or Gatorade this helps Immensely with sea sickness & nausea... we have actually been there done that ......
Next time Kara goes sailing prepare at least 2 days in advance..no meats no greasey foods etc... lots of water Helps with the hydration in the brain which is the culprit fornthese affects
Cheers and great sail
Fairwinds from the @Captains.chair
Even though its not your boat, I enjoyed this one because you've shown it isn't always roses out there sailing. Sometimes I like to see the struggles. But nothing too bad or unfixable or life threatening.
I think you need to use that top car to pull the head of the sail to the mast. At 17:55 look at the leech, its loose up at the top. Pulling the head in should tension all of that down to the third batten.
Kara is such a wonderful example of a good person, looks like she has a wonderful husband also.
I felt really bad that he was leaving along with her! He seemed like he was looking so forward to the trip with the Wynns.
@@ChickensForEggs he really was! I tried to get him to stay but he wouldn’t do it!
@@karachamberlain, oh my goodness! Such a sweet guy. Im so sorry you were sick, I get the same way on air planes....cant even read. And once it hits, its really hard to get it to go away. When the video showed the crazy rolling as you guys headed out, I wondered how you must have been feeling. Uggg! When I kayak fish on the ocean, I have to keep an eye on the water and not my gear, or else I can feel it coming on.
@@karachamberlain He obviously has his priorities where they should be.
@@karachamberlain Too bad you couldn’t have flown to Miami & meet them all there when they arrived. Oh well. I know from experience that sea sickness is horrible. At least you tried!
Shakedown can be frustrating but its a necessary evil and the devil is in the details. Tying up a winch holding a line just isn't on and neither is furling a head sail in order to reef the main.
Thanks for the tip on using a deck organizer to turn lines into a winch, that's great tip to keep in mind.
We bareboat charter often and have gained knowledge on learning/figuring out boats and rigs with issues of either design or equipment/hardware malfunction so we can empathize with you.
Always keep in mind, just because "it's" new out of the box it's not a guarantee that it works.
Adaptation is the key.
Keep the great content coming, Thanks
Suzanne with best answer ever. “Because why not”!
The movie of Kara Robinson will be aired on Lifetime Saturday February 11th 5:00pst
It's so cool that you brought some Patreon crew along to share in the adventure and experiences that you live all the time. Getting to know each other, sharing personal stories and being each other's heroes is pretty awesome! Cheers to you all for being creative problem solvers on this trying trimaran. Thank YOU for sharing your experiences with us in these video episodes we so enjoy watching every week!
I really appreciate Jason’s camera work. You can see where his interests are. Jason’s a very sharing fella.❤😂❤ just saying.
So Wise , Thank You . Having people that care about you is good , Not everybody can do everything . The brave person knows when to say when .
Blessings come from the most interesting places. Thanks for sharing this journey and the story of Kara.
Ahoy Wynns! You have a new business. Take hold of people's New Sailboat ⛵ and figure out what is wrong all while sharing the issues to the world. I'm sure the company will be receptive to making things right 👍. The dingy on/off 👎 needs a huge fix. Jason seems to have a new buddy, yosh, sooo cute (breed?). I wonder if the dog is wondering you 2 are his new mom & dad. Praying blessings on your travels!
Sunday coffee with the Wynns never disappoints. Getting to meet Kara made this episode one to remember. She is one tough cookie and an inspiration. Finally, Neel really missed the mark by not flying in their best crew to work out all the issues with the boat after your first episode aired. The dingy set up and the continued rigging problems do not reflect well on them.
Neel leaves a bit to be desired in terms of presentation. Good boat design, lots of potential, but it's the details, that little bit of perfectionism, that is lacking.
@@Rodrifuuu Have you sailed one? I have and the Neels are amazing. Takes maybe a bit more humility and knowledge than these two are showing, though.
@@mdaddyclimb As I said, I'm not talking about sailing ability. I'm talking about finishes. The Wynns have been fixing things since they've got there. Sailing Ruby Rose showed the problems the Neel had at the boat show.
The way that boat is set up with the fuel filler is nuts !
What a great Sunday again. Thanks
Boat life really is how you presented it in this video. Thank you Jason and Nikki for the effort in filming
Another fantastic episode, Kara is amazing - such a strong inspiration for others. Thanks.
Thank you ❤
Nice video showing the problems that can happen on a new boat, and how you figure out the solution, or get advise from other sailors. An update on my previous comment on video with Rico and Victoria........ when I said a small sailboat for the bay, I really meant harbor. I was thinking of a sunfish, or el toro, or FJ, something in the 15ft range. When you told me that your HH jacket was Heely Hanson, I remembered that company and yesterday I was at the Seattle Boat Show and Heely Hanson had a big vendor booth there.
So glad it’s the Wynns!
WOW Kara ! ❤
The boat owners are geniuses. So smart to hire sailing YTers who know how to fix a boat to take possession for you and shakedown cruise it over to you because they'll fix everything along the way and you'll get a much better boat when you actually take possession, Truly inspired genius. lol
Nikki, I know you've had some challenging situations in your childhood. I imagine you were a good friend to Kara. You're a good person.
I sound like I'm a stalker. LOL! I'm just so impressed. Not a stalker. P. S. I think you and Jason should be in the market for a pup. A lot of responsibility but what a bunch of love.
What a wonderful episode.
Thank you.
Kara is a hero. 💖
I love seeing a boat dog. Thanks! She's adorable!! Love her for me.
We enjoy watching you every week! Thanks for sharing!
I've been watching Wynns videos for a few weeks and Love them. I'm watching Kara Robinson Chamberlain aboard your sailing trip and find her to be a strong, remarkable young lady full of courage. God Bless Her.
Kara's story is going to be on the Lifetime channel this coming Saturday night (2-11-23) at 7 pm CST . Just wanted to let everyone know. They made a movie about her ordeal.
I started watching you when you were talking about your new Composting Toilet and why you need one and have been along for the ride ever since. I would have stopped watching you but then you got a catamaran.
Every review I've ever seen of a Neel always points out all the low quality aspects of the build and design. This video proves it.
This was a great video. It’s reality and it was great to watch. Not every video has to be perfect. I’m here for it.
Good morning from beautiful East Lansing Michigan, always enjoy my coffee with the Wynns!
If you haven’t had seasickness you have no idea….whew! Hard trip for all.
What a great video with all the learning of ups and downs of sailing someone else's boat that clearly had you do this to work out all their kinks for free!!!!
Looking forward to your HH. And LOVE your hospitality, always.
Very much enjoyed your video. Tackling the open ocean in a sailing craft takes bravery and fortitude. We marvel at your full of life exploits, good going and looking forward to the next video.
Well done!
Great to see a fellow J24 & 420 sailor (Suzanne) show their skills. Choosing and assessing crew is quite a skill, pity it was too much for Kara, hope she keeps trying.
I personally would feel very confident with Suzanne on board.
YALL ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOAT AND SET UP ..... ALSO WITH GUESTS....I THINK YOU'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB WITH THAT BOAT!!!!! DON'T BEAT YOURSELVES UP... THAT IS A VERY COMPLICATED SAILING MACHINE AND YOU GUYS DID AWESOME 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️👍👍❤️🌊🌊🌊👍👍❤️
I like what the curling iron did. Great look.
You know I've been watching you for quite a while, thanks for keeping it real.
Tony & Susan here, Kara is vary inspiring.
Well done Kara, chapter one of your sailing story has just started.❤
So glad you chose Kara as one of the crew. I didn’t know her story. What an amazing story. So glad she survived and turned it into a positive. Wishing them the absolute best.
Beautiful episode. Love you guys. And Yoshi.
I get this impression this is a shakedown cruise before delivery to the owners. If that's the case, it's normal to have a bunch of things on the boat that need adjusting and tweaking to make them "just right." If that's not the case, Neel has some issues with their boat design that need serious attention. The mast car and the nav error under sail seem like shakedown things, whilst the dinghy lift seems like a design flaw. Unless you're meant to lift the dinghy off to one side of the center hull where there's room between the center hull and ama, then bring it to center once it's high enough to sit in the mount. That's the only thing I can think of.
Looking fantastic as always Nik !
Fair Wynns !
Great episode! Excessive rudder trim and weather helm is typically from over sheeting and/or overpowered main. Yes, it can be extreme to the point the A/P can't handle. Easing the main until it luffs then slightly bringing in will greatly reduce this. Ask me how I know! 😂😂😂 Cheers!
I agree. This has to be one of the main reasons for the autopilot not being able to keep up. The boom never left centerline, and it appeared to be a beam to broad reach.
@@christopherwalter2722 Yes, I noticed boom on centerline as well! Likely culprit. Cheers!
Looking forward to next vid..exciting
An adventure for sure. The key is you always remain calm which you all have done
This was such a great video. The dog was adorable, and Kara's message was wonderful !
Sunday morning 🍿 and a sailing movie. What could be better?
I am surprised that a major boat manufacturer sells a boat that isn’t balanced properly. 😮
It’s a Neel.
Suzanne was right! I would strongly suggest going to the local hardware store, procuring some black plastic caps and use a dab of silicone to attach them to every trolley eye nut and exposed threads. Unless the company spent the man-hours to carefully round and polish each eye bolt end, they will definitely chafe the lines.
Wow we just watched her story on TV. Such a survivor!
Yoshi is the cutest buddy ever. She's so sweet. Great job on all the repairs and looking forward to new adventures!
And for the future, you can adjust the torque on that Makita by turning the dial with the numbers. Better to go with less and not break your wrist or drop the drill into the ocean 🤣
I really like the format of this vid. New faces, a big build up and lots of action! Thank you guys
Think the line is set wrong, have the same on my Lagoon 42, it goes from tip, to the ring, back to the tip and then down, so it force the top of the sail to the mast. Then the ring also goes all way up 😉
It happens! ❤ most of us have been in that position in our life, some of it self induced. Just move on with life. Good job guys I enjoyed the contact.. life is real❤
Gosh, what an awesome video!
Thankyou 👍
Hi Nikki & Jason! Loved seeing you both, meeting the crew, & the dogs expressions were cute/ Hope you both have a good week. Looking forward to next week.
So you are fixing all their issues! Lucky them.
Wow that was a lot to take in ! 😊❤
Jason: You nailed the solution for that web of pain with the snatch blocks. Those mainsail trucks...ugh! No dinghy davits?!? What were the previous owners thinking??
Nikki: Kara seems a kindred spirit with you.😇 'Overcomer' sounds better than survivor. Thanks for having all the novice patrons aboard! A bumpy first excursion is physically taxing.
From one former J24 racer (#1935 -- "Shockwave") to another: Well done, Suzanne! Even a Neel trimaran with issues is civilized compared with a J24.
Blessings,
S/V Windwalker
That boat dog ought to have a high visibility life vest. It will look cute and just in case.
Learning curve
Safe travels ⛵️ ⛵️ ⛵️
Lmao how awesome like...
Around 18 minutes in starts this beautiful monologue that gets boosted by another sailor passenger and non sailor dude in the background just mind blow ,
You just gotta think
Damn, when you get a lucky chance to ride with these two one way or another you are going to get the true experience of what they really go through
What an adventure congratulations to all
I would say this delivery has not been a commerical for Neel. Many gremlins appear in a new boat but some of these issues have me wondering what dealer commissioned the boat or what the story was before the current owners.
In the last vid they talk about how the boat had been completely de-rigged for the hurricane. Most of the problems they're having just seem like it didn't get put back together correctly. That would be more the marina's (or the owner's) fault than Neel's. Add in a general unfamiliarity with the boat and a couple who only have meaningful experience on a single boat and it looks worse than it really is.
That said, there have been some concerning vids about the fit-and-finish coming from Neel here on youtube that do concern me.
Yay! More boat dog...yosh!
Lovely video!
Great video as always!
She now got more skill, that's is what life is about, good for her. How many times I had people who are managing me but have no skill. Thanks guys
Good morning from Stillwater Minnesota,
Thank you for the great videos!!