For those that don't know VWs, the "through rods" are torsion bars being used to replace the bundled square torsion springs. Unlike the more common coil (spiral) springs of American cars, many VWs prior to the early 1980's used torsion springs, where the spring force comes from the twisting of the spring, instead of the compression. The torsion springs bundle together and form a square, which fit through a square opening in the middle of the front axle beam assembly, to prevent them from turning (twisting) en masse. The torsion spring supports the weight of the front end. When it's replaced with the round torsion bar, the spring is not locked in place and the weight of the vehicle is removed from the springs and onto the air shocks being used in the video, which also allows the trailing arms to move up and down.
It works a lot better with the through robs from my research. You could do it that way. It’s all personal preference. Once you back out that screw nothing going to stop it from bottoming out. I just don’t like to slam my unibody
No I did not tighten them. Only the ones on the end of the beam. The middle one just tighten the set screw so it wouldn’t back out. But I wouldn’t drive it into the through rod because it’s supposed to be able to pivot easily
Did the back of the VW bug drop at all?? How many inches did the front and back drop was the compressor strong enough to lift an drop and how long did the management last you?
Of course the rear dropped. How many inches I am not sure but it went from curb jumping height to ima need a new oil pan if I go over that speed bump. The compressor holds up fine years later. I have since switched out the bags in the rear for normal struts since the rears don't make a massive difference being aired out. You can spend a ton of money on a fancy management but this works great for me.
I am going to do this to my 69 but I was told that all you have to do is pull the adjusters out of the beam where you don’t have to use the through rods. I will make a video when I start on it
I have a problem, so i installed the through rods with the locking nuts and all but they stick out too much that when i turn the wheel all the way to either side the rods end up scratching on the tires, any ideas on how to fix this issue?
Yessir I had the same thing happen to me. I was popping tires at full lock so I just gridded them down flat wish the washer. It ain’t coming back out anyways
Super beetles have a spring over strut and independent suspension. This is a ball joint beam. Earlier cars have a link pin but essentially the same thing for this set up.
Great job! I'm doing this next week when my parts arrive. Quick question- looking back now do you think you could have just loosened the bolts on the trailing arms and the grub bolts at the center of the beam, and then pulled the 4 caps off and driven the spring plates out without removing the arms at all? I'm also wondering if removing half the spring plates would allow it to sag a bunch but still offer some suspension.
There probably is an easier way but this is what worked for me. As for leaving the spring plates in I personally didn’t because I didn’t want the car to ride sloppy but rather just pivot and ride on the air shock. This way I can also lay the beam on the ground.
I supposed different VW Beetle years uses different front and rear air shocks and the air control unit? Also the trailing arm thru rod kit? Need your help please.
Everything in the description my guy. Ima update it in a few days to make it more accurate for the little fittings for you to only order what you need. In case you'd like to wait.
Nah fam. I have a whole video series showing you how I bagged it. All I got is an empi through rod and the Monroe air shocks. And the beam can lay on the ground no issues.
I thought so. I asked because I’m part of a beetle group on Facebook and someone was telling me that on these older cars changing the shocks does not effect ride height that it just absorbs impacts from bumps and that an adjustable beam is what you need
We’ll just the air shocks alone won’t do anything. You need to take out the spring plates in the beam and replace them with an empi through rod. That way it can adjust up and down to your desire. Cheaper than an adjustable beam. And a lot easier to raise and lower. With an adjustable beam you have to jack it up and screw the adjustment screws in. Forget all that bro.
They are just old-school air shocks that have been around since the 70s.. stop calling them struts ..A STRUT IS A SHOCK WITH A COIL SPRING THAT IS USED TO HOLD UP MOST 4-DOOR SEDANS. IN TODAY's WORLD .. air shock has been us alot in muscle cars by DIY owners .. a lot of 80s truck customizers used them on the back of the trucks
For those that don't know VWs, the "through rods" are torsion bars being used to replace the bundled square torsion springs. Unlike the more common coil (spiral) springs of American cars, many VWs prior to the early 1980's used torsion springs, where the spring force comes from the twisting of the spring, instead of the compression. The torsion springs bundle together and form a square, which fit through a square opening in the middle of the front axle beam assembly, to prevent them from turning (twisting) en masse. The torsion spring supports the weight of the front end. When it's replaced with the round torsion bar, the spring is not locked in place and the weight of the vehicle is removed from the springs and onto the air shocks being used in the video, which also allows the trailing arms to move up and down.
You better watch out your pops is gonna want your bug after your done with it. Your killin it
Haha he won't. He wants his baja. We need to get started on his build. But I will be taking some parts from his bug that he won't be using anymore.
Please where can I get this set up from, shipped to south Africa
I buy from a mix of sources. eBay, Amazon and jugs.com
Love the bug man! You’re doing great things with this classic car. Keep grinding.
Thank you for the feedback bro. I appreciate your support. Crazy to see how this car has transformed
Curious, why couldn’t you just leave the stock springs and just remove the center grub bolts? Would that not accomplish the same thing?
It works a lot better with the through robs from my research. You could do it that way. It’s all personal preference. Once you back out that screw nothing going to stop it from bottoming out. I just don’t like to slam my unibody
Correct I was thinking the same thing.
I did the same set up to my bug but the shocks won’t lift did you tighten all the bolts to the thru rod including the center one
No I did not tighten them. Only the ones on the end of the beam. The middle one just tighten the set screw so it wouldn’t back out. But I wouldn’t drive it into the through rod because it’s supposed to be able to pivot easily
Did you get it set up to work? What year bug do you have
it was great watching this, it’s like one of the boys telling me how he did it 😂🫶🏼
That’s exactly what I was going for !! Just chillin with the Homie and showing y’all what crazy idea I got cooking up today
Did the back of the VW bug drop at all?? How many inches did the front and back drop was the compressor strong enough to lift an drop and how long did the management last you?
Of course the rear dropped. How many inches I am not sure but it went from curb jumping height to ima need a new oil pan if I go over that speed bump. The compressor holds up fine years later. I have since switched out the bags in the rear for normal struts since the rears don't make a massive difference being aired out. You can spend a ton of money on a fancy management but this works great for me.
I am going to do this to my 69 but I was told that all you have to do is pull the adjusters out of the beam where you don’t have to use the through rods. I will make a video when I start on it
Love to see a different point of view. I look forward to it !!
I have a problem, so i installed the through rods with the locking nuts and all but they stick out too much that when i turn the wheel all the way to either side the rods end up scratching on the tires, any ideas on how to fix this issue?
Yessir I had the same thing happen to me. I was popping tires at full lock so I just gridded them down flat wish the washer. It ain’t coming back out anyways
So that bug is bettle or super bettle,i ask because the front suspensio is diferen,i have a 1963,and i wan to know if i can't put that same kit
Super beetles have a spring over strut and independent suspension. This is a ball joint beam. Earlier cars have a link pin but essentially the same thing for this set up.
Yes this works on all beetles except super beetles.
Part numbers for the front shocks ?
Great job! I'm doing this next week when my parts arrive. Quick question- looking back now do you think you could have just loosened the bolts on the trailing arms and the grub bolts at the center of the beam, and then pulled the 4 caps off and driven the spring plates out without removing the arms at all? I'm also wondering if removing half the spring plates would allow it to sag a bunch but still offer some suspension.
There probably is an easier way but this is what worked for me. As for leaving the spring plates in I personally didn’t because I didn’t want the car to ride sloppy but rather just pivot and ride on the air shock. This way I can also lay the beam on the ground.
Nice can’t wait for part 2
Thank you for the comment. I appreciate the support. Part 2 coming soon !!
I supposed different VW Beetle years uses different front and rear air shocks and the air control unit? Also the trailing arm thru rod kit? Need your help please.
This is for a ball joint front end beam. Not sure about link pin. But most parts will have the years on them before you buy.
Safe to say if you’re Beetle looks the same as in this video you’re solid👍🏽
@@tuned_tunasI have a 69 would all the parts you showed on the video fit my year car?
Hi what number Munroe shocks ma ?
Link is in the description
What color pink door have on that car in the video my granddaughter wants me to paint my 1970 bug pink
This color isn’t pink.
@@tuned_tunas not the volkswagen I think it was nissan Z
Ohh in the shop. That’s my buddies display car. It’s a pink wrap. Not paint.
I’m excited to see the final product 🔥🔥
Can't wait to show you !! Part 2 coming soon.
You guys know if I can do the same rods and air shocks but no drop spindles?
Yessir. Probably won’t go as low but you can definitely do it without spindles
@@tuned_tunas thanks for the reply 👊🏽 I'll see how low of a ride I get. Not to worried if it doesn't go all the way down.
You got this bro. Glad to help. Go slam that vocho👍🏽💯
@@tuned_tunas
What's the best lowering kit I can use other than air lift?
Have you done the back suspension
Been done. This a 3 part series
@@tuned_tunasthe back didn't look like it dropped very much?? Do you know why
What city you located
We from the Bay Area.
That’s sick I’m from the bay as well got me a nice lil bug myself
Great videos bro keep the good work!
I appreciate you man. Someday we’ll run into each other.
Good video! Informative explaining assembly of every part…. How is the ride? Is it a bumpy ride?
Not bad at all once you figure out your ride height
Im here for el vocho 👍
Yessir. Gracias🙏🏽
Where’d you get the kit 😪 I need it for my bug
Everything in the description my guy. Ima update it in a few days to make it more accurate for the little fittings for you to only order what you need. In case you'd like to wait.
@@tuned_tunas you know me ima stay and wait for the vids to drop to support 💯
Much love bro. I appreciate the support. I won't let you down. We going to learn together.
no product links:(
Fixed that issue. Thanks for pointing it out bro.
What year is the bug??
1972 my dude
@@tuned_tunaswill that same set up work on my 69??
Thanks for the videos
Always glad to share my learning experience with y’all.
That's awsome to bad prices have jumped way up
Got to love the economy
Thank you !! Needed a video like this bro
Glad to help bro !! Appreciate you, part 2 coming soon !!💯
Stock beam?
Yessir. Stock beam. I wanted the fitment to be tight. I don’t like the narrowed beam look personally
Interesting, because I have ppl telling me air shocks will not lower your car that you need an adjustable beam
Nah fam. I have a whole video series showing you how I bagged it. All I got is an empi through rod and the Monroe air shocks. And the beam can lay on the ground no issues.
I thought so. I asked because I’m part of a beetle group on Facebook and someone was telling me that on these older cars changing the shocks does not effect ride height that it just absorbs impacts from bumps and that an adjustable beam is what you need
We’ll just the air shocks alone won’t do anything. You need to take out the spring plates in the beam and replace them with an empi through rod. That way it can adjust up and down to your desire. Cheaper than an adjustable beam. And a lot easier to raise and lower. With an adjustable beam you have to jack it up and screw the adjustment screws in. Forget all that bro.
I appreciate you brotha!!!
Much love man 🙏🏽💯
Helpful for my 67 beetle
Glad to help my man !!
Big Sheeeeeshh!
Major sheesh !!
PART 2
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Thanks for stopping by bro. I appreciate the comment🙏💯
They are just old-school air shocks that have been around since the 70s.. stop calling them struts ..A STRUT IS A SHOCK WITH A COIL SPRING THAT IS USED TO HOLD UP MOST 4-DOOR SEDANS. IN TODAY's WORLD .. air shock has been us alot in muscle cars by DIY owners .. a lot of 80s truck customizers used them on the back of the trucks
Air shocks* MY BAD
Sorry for anyone else that’s offended
start at 9 mins
I want to do that to my beetle that'd be some gangster s***
Yessir. That is exactly why I did it😎🔥
there's a nut (¬‿¬)
That's not a strut, it's a shock.
It sure is