F250 6.7 Powerstroke 5 inch Exhaust - Too Loud For Daily Driving?

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  • @loganwelch6775
    @loganwelch6775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    “What’s it like driving with a five inch?” Something truck drivers get asked too often, whether it’s about the exhaust or... well, never mind

  • @DieselLegiance
    @DieselLegiance 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I actually don’t mind it. I have a 5” flowpro on my 6.7 Cummins and I like it. It’s quieter than the smoke stack I had prior as that was loud in the cab. The exhaust brake whistle on a chilly day sounds like a damn jet engine in my driveway but I like it lol

  • @markab71
    @markab71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    5:45 you’re welcome.

  • @TonyDMan67
    @TonyDMan67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sounds perfect! A little tame for Texas, but definitely a good start for daily driving.

  • @calebvickery8321
    @calebvickery8321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Let's hear that exhaust brake!!

    • @tman5434
      @tman5434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really want to hear it too.

    • @thomasriley6263
      @thomasriley6263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ima comment so I get a notification if he ever responds👌🏻

  • @rudyrivera2964
    @rudyrivera2964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was at my local Ford dealership going over some F-150's I wanted. That was until a customer drove in with his F250. I absolutely have no use for one but damn it I want one. Now I'm stuck lol

    • @AJ-bi6ns
      @AJ-bi6ns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      F250s are much more versatile trucks

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      F250.
      You say you have no use for one?
      Do some offroading with it.

    • @rudyrivera2964
      @rudyrivera2964 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@electric7487 That's what the Jeep is for!

    • @justjacked8189
      @justjacked8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      F250s are sick so are the new Broncos

  • @Motoxkid34
    @Motoxkid34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love my 2016 6.7 powerstroke with the 5” flo pro , if you get on it like you said it screams . If you put the exhaust brake on going down a hill it sounds amazing

  • @LukesGarage
    @LukesGarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like how you get to the point and start it up for us to hear.

  • @greggdsurf
    @greggdsurf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Them higher trim trucks have so much cab insulation on them so it’s not even bad on the inside

  • @brickson98m
    @brickson98m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I only get a cab drone at one certain rpm, and it happens to be around 45mph with my specific hardware and tuning setup on my 2012. But, honestly, I don’t mind it. I like being able to hear the vehicle I’m driving. If I get sick of hearing it, I turn the stereo up.
    The only vehicle I’ve never driven that got annoyingly loud was my 1996 F-250 with a 7.5L v8 with 6 or 7 inch stacks right behind the cab. (Yes I know gasser with stacks. Previous owner did it) It’s an amazing sounding truck, but it has very tall gearing, so it sits at a pretty high rpm on the highway, and boy does it drone. That was annoying because I had to completely blast the stereo to get up over the drone.

  • @jordanclark6202
    @jordanclark6202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 5 inch mbrp to a 8 inch axle dump on my 18 f350 and love it, the only downside is when im pulling a 40 foot gooseneck with my tractor and another down side I blew the transmission when I put a bigger turbo on it

  • @six0bros
    @six0bros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 17s and newer look bad ass. I love my 15 build I am starting but love the 17s and up

  • @estebanvega4863
    @estebanvega4863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best of your videos so far, under 9 min, more outside shots and info👌🏼

  • @mitchellnetrevalli9428
    @mitchellnetrevalli9428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Correct me if I'm wrong - but I think the "platinum" edition super duty has the most sound dampening for the cab. This might be quite a bit louder on an XLT or Lariat...

    • @Inflikz
      @Inflikz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Nowotny i have a 5" on my 16 lariat and its really quiet in the cab WAY quieter than i thought it would be

  • @FordTruckGuyKyle
    @FordTruckGuyKyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My twin turbo 6.4 is straight piped 5 inch exhaust system 8 inch tip. Love my truck I drive it commercially start love the sound

    • @mitchjruiz
      @mitchjruiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're brave driving a deleted truck commercially. Company here just got a $30,000 fine for having deleted trucks in their fleet.

  • @brodybarker1863
    @brodybarker1863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That thing sounds so insane. Love it

  • @chrisweymuth7375
    @chrisweymuth7375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2016 f-350 dually with 5" off the down tube back. Sounds the same which I love.

  • @zacharylowell7340
    @zacharylowell7340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got Flo Pro 5" on my 07 6.0 and it's not crazy bad. 900-1000 rpm the drone can get annoying but it's not always in that rpm range

  • @annielynn6474
    @annielynn6474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey my husband said if u will hold your traction control and wait for it to pop up on dash it will show advance traction control off and that turns all the traction control off

  • @supergrendel
    @supergrendel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love driving next to one of these straight piped diesels with large exhaust when my kid is trying to sleep in the car. It makes for a such a wonderful day.

    • @mongolsmffm4829
      @mongolsmffm4829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Glad we can help.

    • @francoguzzo1810
      @francoguzzo1810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Prius driver for sure.....

    • @supergrendel
      @supergrendel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@francoguzzo1810 Tesla before a Prius. And more torque than a diesel :)

    • @SpectrumSpectacle
      @SpectrumSpectacle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@supergrendel And it still cant tow lol. Take you and your kids and go to a nice secluded forest where the big scary diesels won't scare you, and you can hug all the trees you want

    • @supergrendel
      @supergrendel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpectrumSpectacle It still can't tow? You realize the entire world is going electric soon right? Have you seen the Tesla big rig? All gas and diesel engines will be obsolete in the next decade. I have built old Lincolns with 430ci V8s to Pontiac WS6 Trans Ams with LS engines. You can see them mixed amongst the vids on my TH-cam channel. My point is that it is unnecessary for anyone to straight pipe ANY vehicle. It just reinforces how small of a dick you have if you're truly that eager for attention. Remember the South Park episode with the Harley guys?

  • @bamm160
    @bamm160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    turbo is very quit not like my 2003 6.0 with my silverline 4 turbo back exhaust sounded like a jet, had to put the banks on it to be sane.

  • @Lmns6.7
    @Lmns6.7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I run a 5” straight on my 2015; I had an axle dump with a 10” tip on it for a bit but I did notice a drone around 67-68mph. Not too obnoxious at all and when I put the stock exit back on it there was no drone at all

  • @kenworthheadquarters3036
    @kenworthheadquarters3036 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a ford fan so I do like your truck

  • @tracyknox7915
    @tracyknox7915 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who wants a quiet diesel truck i think it sounds good with the 5 inch exhaust

  • @tiko4337
    @tiko4337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea. 2016 6.7 5in FloPro. Really not bad. Sounds great in the cab going down the road. Love the tone.

  • @roccosainato5649
    @roccosainato5649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That sounds raw!

  • @collinbrackin
    @collinbrackin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it bro! I posted a comparison video of a 4" and 5" that was inspired by you! Appreciate you sharing your content. Keep it up!

  • @jessewoolley5421
    @jessewoolley5421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 6.7 has 4” down pipe back and it’s loud as fuck, even on the 30 hp tune!!

  • @riderrm2505
    @riderrm2505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the 5” on my 15 Cummins sounds awesome but I do get a pretty bad drone when pulling my travel trailer at certain RPM. It’s worse for people in back seat AKA my kids.

  • @dannymeyer5755
    @dannymeyer5755 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck a sound system! That’s all I need.

  • @dogbite5509
    @dogbite5509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sounds amazing. Doesn't sound offensive to people on the street. Do you have a stock Ford air filter or have you changed it to a "performance" one? Ever considered Archoil additives for the Powerstroke engine?

    • @nickhitt764
      @nickhitt764 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 6.7 does not benefit from it like the 6.0 would... Just good oil is fine for the 6.7

  • @elik7075
    @elik7075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo Corey that truck sounds amazing nice Super Duty

  • @joshtutor2526
    @joshtutor2526 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tell me this dude doesn't live in the south with that quiet truck. 😏

  • @df4720
    @df4720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys.

  • @hansr6rd
    @hansr6rd ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds amazing to me!

  • @VANCER15
    @VANCER15 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the truck!

  • @jaydanolson6433
    @jaydanolson6433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Talk about an over reaction😂😂😂 I daily drive a open header 5.4 for a year😂😂

  • @jbussey5301
    @jbussey5301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It almost sounds like my 6.0 with the 5" MBRP Turbo-Back with stock cat still mounted. Very calm on the inside but a roaring lion on the outside. That's perfect! Thinking of upgrading to a 2018 or newer alumi-duty 6.7, getting tired of the coolant puking everytime when running tunes.

    • @justnsaliga8518
      @justnsaliga8518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i still got my 6.0 not running anymore hopefully rebuilding the motor soon lifter gave out. just recently bought a 2019 Platinum... well worth it even though i got a huge discount and bought pre owned. Pucker your butthole for 1000 dollar plus truck payment. unless you got that money to throw at the problem. its not deleted yet. bank declined me for a lariat asking was 72 it was deleted and lifted already. but retail on it is like 65 bank said no. then i found a Platinum half the miles same year just not deleted. for 64. and retails 88. bank said hell yes.

    • @jbussey5301
      @jbussey5301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justnsaliga8518 good score man. Yeah it seems like about the only thing my 6.0 is good for is daily driving, long travels and occasionally light hauling/towing. Can't run tunes on it without it puking coolant. Learned my lessons since getting it in 2010 that with my 6.0 is a gamble. You either have great roaring lion that has the power capability or greater than a big block.. or you end up with more hurdles than one can comprehend. Nevertheless it runs and drives.
      Alls I gotta say man is if your dealing with a 6.0 like I've been.. at the end of the day crack a cold one. It'll help relieve some of that 6.0 pain & strain. Don't start before working on a 6.0 because it may not end well.
      Plus once you get it back up and running again man to help limit soot clogging on the vanes of the turbo and keep the exhaust valves/cylinders/exhaust system cleaned out try what I've used. There's a company called New South Diesel and look up their TK-7 additive. The stuff isn't cheap for good reason. Every time I've used it in mine it cleans up the injectors and everything from the combustion chambers aft. Bumps up power response and fuel efficiency. There's videos here on TH-cam of demonstrations of what the TK-7 does when it burns and compared to other common additives. Just a little help out from one 6.0 driver to another. And to answer the question if it can be used in your 6.7 the answer is no. It's meant for 2007 and older diesel powered vehicles.
      Good luck, have fun, don't over stress and cheers man 👍

  • @aufuckyourself
    @aufuckyourself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The old 6.0's sound better in my opinion.

    • @carlosalmazan4375
      @carlosalmazan4375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My 2003 6.0 sounds like a semi truck

    • @Cat_lover335
      @Cat_lover335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pre Emission trucks all makes and models. Sound way better than this DEF, Regen bullshit!

    • @matthewpate154
      @matthewpate154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mini_legitz_brokexx I’m a big cummins guy. But nothing sounds better then a early deleted 6.0

    • @thehawkeschannel45
      @thehawkeschannel45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mini_legitz_brokexx This 6.7 doesn’t have DEF or Regen. It’s completely deleted.

    • @richieodonnell2712
      @richieodonnell2712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a deleted 2016 6.7 powerstroke. I completely agree. Nothing compares to the sound of a 6.0

  • @briangust7959
    @briangust7959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy to know you where driving right through oak dale hahah nice rig man!

  • @coltongarber8087
    @coltongarber8087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice truck!!! Yee yee

  • @austinsteinfeldt
    @austinsteinfeldt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds awesome!

  • @theJoefamilychannel
    @theJoefamilychannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of exhaust system is that?

  • @OldDirtyBlaster
    @OldDirtyBlaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you say you fixed your exhaust drone from rubbing the bed? I can’t find the video.

  • @ryguy5434
    @ryguy5434 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are getting that CRAZY SPE intake manifold installed? Or when will they be released to the public? That will change things up BIG time! Nice rig! Love your vids!

  • @laneerwin7951
    @laneerwin7951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    460 with open headers

  • @shanetaylor7581
    @shanetaylor7581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep I’m doing it.

  • @slumpediron
    @slumpediron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *laughs in daily obs 7.3 straight pipe*

  • @SureTexan
    @SureTexan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice rig!

  • @ishnigma1601
    @ishnigma1601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking about running some QTP cutouts for my diesel 6.7 Cummins with 4 in. pipe exhaust, because I like to run from Quiet to Riot sometimes. I wonder if they make such cutouts that will handle the heat.

  • @jamesvuxta8723
    @jamesvuxta8723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds fine to me

  • @brandonmick9191
    @brandonmick9191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A 5” on these newer diesels doesnt even compare to the 4” straight pipe on my 2007 5.9 Cummins

    • @alexsummers3700
      @alexsummers3700 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Commonrail 5.9 is absolutely the best

  • @TheTysurfs
    @TheTysurfs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s it like at 70-80mph? What kind of rpms do you run at those speeds?

  • @jerrywafflers6720
    @jerrywafflers6720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2011 with 5 inch exhaust, I barely hear anything with windows up and no drones but windows down are ridiculous loud lol

    • @Devilsfan-pd8ov
      @Devilsfan-pd8ov 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I have 2011 with a 5 inch straight pipe windows up with a/c or heat on you can’t hear anything

  • @djacgators1
    @djacgators1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought a 2022 6.7 diesel. What do you recommend for 5” exhaust exactly?

  • @jayrad017
    @jayrad017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe it's just the video, but it sounds pretty loud. It sounds louder today than it normally does. Is that because you normally have the windows rolled up or the way it's recorded? Sound awesome don't get me wrong, but it was even a little hard to hear you.

  • @danielson1947
    @danielson1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got a 17 with a 5inch 👍

  • @fnpitlove931
    @fnpitlove931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there a benefit to pulling the egr compared to just tunning it closed when i do my def delete?

  • @gunsquadstruckstractors7446
    @gunsquadstruckstractors7446 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey why don’t you have a tip and doll are you going to do anything to the turbo to make it whistle louder

  • @JBOutdoors
    @JBOutdoors 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went with 4 inch and now wish I would’ve chances the 5 inch.

  • @pedrothemexican3360
    @pedrothemexican3360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @TopCorey, Is this a DPF delete or DPF back system?

  • @hemipower39
    @hemipower39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Corey could you reply to email for mdm performance had an order placed on the January 8th and haven’t heard anything back.

  • @brianaustin6184
    @brianaustin6184 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to delete the truck in order to get the truck to sound like that? I just don’t want to delete the truck because in Phoenix,AZ they have smog testing for folks living in maricopa co.

  • @marklamb7770
    @marklamb7770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of exhaust? What kind of delete and tune?

  • @tkraft95
    @tkraft95 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do more hotshot videos again

  • @downsouthfishing2311
    @downsouthfishing2311 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a 4in straight pipe on my 6.4 powerstroke with an 8in tip and it sounds awesome

    • @kevinparker9932
      @kevinparker9932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah till the piece of shit blows a head gasket!

    • @thermidorlevrai65
      @thermidorlevrai65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8 inch tip is the gayest thing ever, at least but it straight all the way

  • @Rickybobby0
    @Rickybobby0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something is wrong with your hat when you get to the drive through sir

  • @splxty2897
    @splxty2897 ปีที่แล้ว

    What exhaust is this? Going to do my delete and want this exhaust.

  • @calsam4112
    @calsam4112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's see that truck do some work!

    • @jacob5014
      @jacob5014 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know it doesn't work lol

  • @cassiusnoyb6499
    @cassiusnoyb6499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Them hair dryer exhausts

  • @user-ci1yn8or2h
    @user-ci1yn8or2h 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many miles you can drive with full tank ? Does it show how many in the gauge ?

  • @takerfan4ever
    @takerfan4ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm considering a 6.0 or 6.7. Is the 6.0 after muffler and cat removal as quiet in the cab as this or is there drone

  • @moose2345
    @moose2345 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you point me in the right place where i can get a exhaust for delete for offroad

  • @jesseprince2021
    @jesseprince2021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I get my def delete tune? Asking for educational purposes only👀

    • @joshuagilley1
      @joshuagilley1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      jesse prince 941-348-9221 💁

  • @tommy-jy5ig
    @tommy-jy5ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Similarly, back in the 60's colored guys would walk around with a blaring, 3 ft. long boom box on their shoulder.

  • @brandonthomas4271
    @brandonthomas4271 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Not speeding" blurs out the speed lol

  • @zeus6.717
    @zeus6.717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you wanna be louder just axel dump it🥰

  • @cynicaltexan9639
    @cynicaltexan9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont know if you stated in the video. How is the reliability so far at 77k? Im deciding between a 2019 RAM 2500 and 2020 F350 tremor with the 6.7 powerstroke

    • @justjacked8189
      @justjacked8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      F350 Tremor the 6.7 is a crazy gd diesel.

    • @cynicaltexan9639
      @cynicaltexan9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justjacked8189 I went ahead with a cummins. Got a good deal on the truck.

  • @mmarchlik2
    @mmarchlik2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you mod your turbo with a new spline? Or is it still stock?

  • @brandonbohon8464
    @brandonbohon8464 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    get a cummins. I love my 6.7 cummins. Also like ford.

  • @jameshitch6199
    @jameshitch6199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a link as to where I can find the full 5" Down pipe back exhaust?

  • @virgwamsley1567
    @virgwamsley1567 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would it sound like with a baked potato stuffed up the tail pipe-which I bet your'e neighbors are thinking about doing

  • @AJ-nb4dp
    @AJ-nb4dp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exhaust brake sound like the Cummins?

  • @tmtaylormade
    @tmtaylormade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The link takes me to a Cummins exhaust?

  • @JimmyJammer1
    @JimmyJammer1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What hp are you running

  • @S2KCYA
    @S2KCYA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude u got to get the tesla screen way better

  • @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
    @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there four link suspension kits for these beasts?

  • @deeznuts7030
    @deeznuts7030 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I have a electronic bafold added.to silsilence the exhaust when pulling up to the house late night ?lol

  • @sethkendall975
    @sethkendall975 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm running 4inch to 5inch at where the heavy parts where strait pipe... with a 6inch tip. No big deal... but I had a strait 6 to 7inch stack on my cummins.

  • @markwebb9911
    @markwebb9911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What programmer do you like?

  • @christopherjones7882
    @christopherjones7882 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the exhaust setup ?

  • @tashisahill5634
    @tashisahill5634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is your truck deleted or is it still stock

  • @davidc5220
    @davidc5220 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What exhaust is that? I have a stock 2019 6.7

  • @caan-zu5gm
    @caan-zu5gm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too loud for me. Tank you for the vid.

  • @wyattspeece4187
    @wyattspeece4187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you delete the truck?

  • @thenewlife.pt2724
    @thenewlife.pt2724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please drop the mod list!

  • @codygrupp2113
    @codygrupp2113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I buy/order the 5” that you got? I have a 2018 F350 Dually Crew/8’ Bed. What will I need to do with the tuning portion?

    • @TopCorey
      @TopCorey  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      DM me on insta @topcorey

  • @Legoinventor2012
    @Legoinventor2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that was 376 into pittsburgh!!

  • @anfilofeEA
    @anfilofeEA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Straight pipe???

  • @Cdawg1871980
    @Cdawg1871980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately I drive around with a 3”