@@lukkaredwolf3534 why S? Cos Alpha is first letter of Greek alphabet and Omega last, obviously where they 2 got their names, so don't get where S comes in. I am new to this and just curious
@@Bobbb-f3i kind of a crapshoot thought. Can't be Tau, because that is in use. Mu would be kind of silly, as the middle letter of the alphabet, but Sigma sounds distinct enough, and of course, there is a "Primarch adjacent" individual in Sigmar... Also, with how much they pump the 18 Primarch's bit, and Sigma is the 18th letter... So just going from the hip.
I like Dark Angels and the Alpha Legion. Dark Angels because their aesthetic I believe best fits the style of the 41 millennium and Alpha Legion for reasons described in this video.
Their goals are also beyond their own understanding, which there lies the problem. They are so caught up in their web of of lies that they no longer know what the truth is.
Bro my fav characters for this legion are alpharius, alpharius and alpharius. My fav part was when alpharius helped alpharius beat an imposter alpharius who wasn't with the alpha legion and tried to stop alpharius helping alpharius beat the evil enemies of alpharius.
In the 31st Millennium a crack commando unit was declared traitor by the Imperium for a crime no one can say they committed. These men promptly escaped from imperial space to the eastern fringes. Today, still wanted by the Imperium, They survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, If no one else can help And if you can find them Maybe you can hire the Alpha Legion
Just after reading that first line I honestly thought your comment was going to be just two Alpha Legionnaires confused by their own insane command structure "Congratulations on your promotion" "What do you mean I'm YOUR captain and I'M here to promote YOU" "Nonsense. Oh, wait, damn it....are you?" "I mean...I guess. I AM wearing a gauntlet with fancy snakes on it right now soo" "Yeah you're the obvious FAKE captain I'm the incognito REAL captain, idiot. Or were we using hand signals to tell rank this mission shit" "Wooow you might wanna watch your words, battle-brother. I AM Alpharius after all" "Whoever I worship please give me strength"
Oh man, i remember when the Pluto battle first dropped, everyone lost their shit after that. All the Imperial Fist fanboys being like "hes dead hes dead hes dead", and all the Alpha fans being like "you must be new here."
Just imagine Cato Sicarius and an Alpha legionnaire getting into it. "It is I, Cato Sicarius!" "I've known all along Cato, as I Alpharius, knows better!" "I Cato Sicarius doubt that" "Clearly I, Alpharius knows more!"
You know it occurs to me that, Imperial bureaucracy being what it is, there is no way the Alpha Legion HASN'T founded at least one, if not several successor chapters in plain sight. "Hi, we're Ultramarines successors number 4752." "We...don't have records of you" "You must have lost the paperwork. See our armour is blue." "....yea that seems legit. Hey why are you covered in scales though?" "Fuck you, it looks bitchin, thats why." "......fair point, well made."
Hell Imperial Bureaucracy being what it is 100% the Legion can infiltrate everywhere by just awakening a sleeping agent and be like "bro dont look at these papers just accept them" *a new founding of a few dozens chapters coming from nowhere*
The Raven Guard mastered shadows and hiding in the darkness. The Alpha Legion mastered hiding in somebody else's skin and in plain sight. The Night Haunters are dumb and wear flayed bits of still screaming people as they stumble in the dark making spooky noises.
*Raven Guard:* You don't see them and don't know they're there. *Night Lords:* You don't see them but you know they're there. *Alpha Legion:* You see them but you don't know they're there.
@@jocosesonata Conrad was a self-aware abortion and he exclusively wasted precious time to remind himself, his children, all who would listen that was all he was. He became a half successful failure in the eyes of Corvus and Vulkan; his redemption and ruin respectively. I genuinely think Vulkan set Conrad on the path of suicide because that is what _needed_ to happen, and Curze unintentionally made Corvus the Lorgar-Stalker shadow of vengeance he is today, just as the Emps and Malc played out. It's part of Conrad's beauty, most of his shame. The fact that Night Lords even exist is pretentious-maximus, wouldn't be surprised to find all that is left of the Night Haunters children are just low-key slaves to Slaneeshgasms.
The Alpha Legion doing well with the Dark Angels, Iron Hands, and Luna Wolves is not surprising. They did also have success with the Blood Angels but it was strained as they didn't communicate any of their plan but the mission was a overall success
Before you realize it, we are there. Like gheists and shades that dog your every step we mirror you in exact ways, every move you make has been planned for and predicted. We are as many as we are duplicitous, for we are unseen, undetected, and unbreakable. Clint to your false hopes and faltering trust for soon, it may be your last. Hydra Dominatus
I was always confused about what the cabal told alpharius. We know that they were wrong because Eldrad ended up having the rest of them killed and has stated in recent lore that the fates of the aeldari and humanity are a package deal for better or for worse. So I think that he was simply naïve back then, though this time its actually good writing and understandable. From the cabal's perspective it looked as if humanity was on its way out with the outbreak of the heresy, so Eldrad figured yeah they are probably toast, but lets see if we can get this key player to do what we want before the dust settles. It is also probable that eldrad saw a real vision of the future of 40K as we know it and came to those conclusions. He being a great far-seer and all but not omniscient I think this would make sense.
The Kabal were either Chaos agents or were afraid of humanity returning to complete dominance of the galaxy. They weren't acting on behalf of the "greater good".
Or Perhaps the Cabal relied too much on their insight and Prophesy but the recent Chaos activity that was undivided proved to much for them and corrupted their insight to only show a Chaos victory of some kind over humanity
The book "Legion" is truly one of the best in the Heresy books I hate it didn't get a contiunation like several others did because I just love the Alpha Legion and its uses if regular humans to accomplish their goals.
Ah, yes. If Marvel's Hydra had a supersoldier organization, this would be them. Probably one of the biggest question marks in 40k, they are exceptionally good at infiltration, deep reconnaissance, and assassination. All of these and so much more make them the true masters of _Information_ _Control_ , the bane of the Ultramarines. The only contenders for this position on the Loyalist side would be the Raven Guard. We are Legion, for we are Many. Hydra Dominatus!
One Time The high lords of terra sent 6 vindicare assasins To hunt down some alpha legion officer. Some time later, 6 heads were found in The freezer of the high lords. Alpha legionares are some sneaky gits.
I think not even the Ravens are that effective. The sons of Corax are too humane, while the sons of Curze are too extremist. They are the kind of legion that would poison the water supply of a hive city for years just to destabilize a sector
My favorite traitor(?) Legion!!! I often find myself pondering about the hypothetical pairings of differing legions/chapters together on a dual campaign to takeover a world, and then wondering which potential pairing of 2 chapter/legion’s would be the most effective, have the highest synergy, with the best unit cohesion overall. In Leading to a successful campaign. For that reason, an Alpha Legion & Night Lord’s World Compliance Campaign is A Highly intriguing concept to me. If only i could find more lore about such an occurrence.
Once upon a time, I ran a Dark Heresy game where the Alpha Legion was staying in the shadows behind an army of World Eaters. The Alphas would find targets of opportunity, utilizing the carnage of the World Eaters, so that the PCs were always wondering how many steps behind they really were. Alas for them, it became a wipe. Chaos won. Or did it?
I like the story where some rando guard unit is getting waxed by like...the Tyranids or something and they pray and pray for days for salvation and the get saved by some space maries. Then the end gives a description of the guard looking up at the marine "clad in dragon skin armor with a 3 headed dragon heraldry " and the guardsman end his pray with, "For the emporer"....the marine repeats the phrase.
I think the alpha legion got so used to being SO deep undercover they never realized youve got to, like, pop that cover EVENTUALLY. Like "man, theyll never expect im undercover if im game to massacre everybody at istvan 5!!" To "theyll NEVER see through my disguise if i plot the downfall of the empire!" To "getting murdered in the traitorous attempt to destroy the emperor will ensure I NEVER get my cover blown.. PERFECT!!"
There should be a stratagem for the Alpha legion in the game that on a certain roll, you can reveal members of the enemy army to really be Alpha legion infiltrators disguised as them.
This is my head cannon, Alpharius and Omegon swapped minds. We know the Alpha Legion has the ability to mind swap and it makes since for one of the greatest lies the Alpha Legion ever told to involve that aspect. They would have had their memories altered somewhat but retain some of their core personality. This will help explain why Alpharius acts like Omegon and Omegon acts like Alpharius. So this means that when Alpharius died vs Dorn, it was the body of Alpharius but the mind of Omegon. After all Omegon himself stated, "My name is Alpharius, this WAS a lie". Omegon (who's mind is Alpharius but forgetting the was the real Alpharius) steps up as Alpharius (one of the most Alpha Legion things to be honest). He teams up with John Grammaticus and others to reach the Imperial Palace to help deliver a message to The Emperor. While we don't know what happens after this (yet), it can be estimated that given how close he would be to the Emperor by the time The Vengeful Spirit lowers its shield. This will allow Omegon (Alpharius) to join his brothers and father on the final battle (perhaps even being the one to discover The Emperor's broken body while giving credit to Rogal Dorn.) After this he will later fake his death by allowing his body double to be one shot by Roboute. He then spends the next 10,000 years guiding his loyalist squads from the shadows while trying to undermine the heretic side.
That'd make sense if Alpharious didn't mean beginning and Omegon mean the end. Omegon is absolutely the one that is still alive or they both are despite Dorn swearing he killed one. He swears he could tell the difference between the two and whether or not it was one of their sons doing the switcheroo for them, but I'd definitely want someone to think they could if I was them, and I think there's a very high chance they did just that. Hydra Dominatus!
It would have been cool if Warhammer 40K Space Marine 2 had the previous character broken out of prison by the Alpha Leigon, and it became a Alpha Leigon story.
I’m pretty sure cypher is one of them alpharius or omegon, who the fuck besides a primarch is escaping custodies custody like he did after riding with gulliman from the black stone fortress whilst carrying the lions sword on his back. This just tied it all together with alpharius’s connection with the dark angels at the end of the unification wars killing the thunder warriors and the only one to know of his existence besides malcador and Big E was Valdor the head of the custodies. I really think he got his face time with the Big E right after Gulliman because I’m sure there’s still a custodie or 2 that knows what’s what
Yea.....with that cloaking and morphing armor tech....that sounds right. No regular, schmegular Astartes is gonna pull that off. Plus wasnt one of their Primarch "powers" the ability to blend in? I think the book mentioned some kind of gestalt pyschic veil, always present...or one of the other primarchs said something like that?
Part of me wants to know their true allegiance, the other part hopes that it is never revealed because this guessing game is the beauty of Alpha Legion. Eve the writers don't know it. Maybe they are traitors, maybe they are the deepest of the deep undercover agents ....maybe neither and they fight both the chaos AND the Imperium, as it is the biggest source of power for chaos in the galaxy ....or maybe something completely different.... that's why they are my favorite :)
Pretty sure the alpha legion are simply hive minded. What better a deception than appearing to have weaknesses like command structures where there simply are none. Appearing to disguise said structure would simply add to the believability of the deception. Hence their ability to so easily adapt to changes in the structure. Alpharius and omegon could be swarmlord-esque nodes of the hivemind that act with a degree of independence, but still remain part of the whole.
Great work. I am doing an arma 3 mod battle between the alpha legion vs the black templars. To assist the alpha legion I have some chaos cultists units. To assist the black templars, I have used the valhanans units. To add fuel to the fire I added an ork invasion as a third faction. Thank you for your dedication to the lore.
I really love the lore of the Alpha Legion and no-one really knowing what's going on with them. Even so far as I really don't think either of their Primarchs are dead.
alpharious/omegon where described as a single soul inhabiting 2 bodys in one of the books, and them beeing primarchs i think its pretty impossible for them to be dead dead in that sense
From now on when people ask why I like the Alpha Legion I'm linking this video. Can't stress this explanation enough at 7:07 - 8:20 as to whether they are loyalist or traitor - due to the predictions of the Cabal about the fate of the universe.
7:10 An alien organization called the Cabal gives the Alpha legion two prophecies of the future. These predictions vastly change the direction of action of the Alpha Legion. 16:00 The 20th Legion... The Alpha legion, sometimes recruits non Astartes members in order to better infiltrate places.
Alpharius is the perfect clone of the emperor working for the better good. Keeping the universe in balance. Alpharius doesnt kill but will sacrifice at will.
I like to entertain the idea that their are loyalist Alpha legionairs operating for the empire. As their numbers were never really known and using the chaos at the end of the heresy to set up loyalist chapters.
They are still loyal, just operating on the logic of "the end result justifies the means to reach it"...they will be the first to fight for the emperium when they know all the pieces have fell into place...they have planned it all out to end every traitor in one fell swoop. Planning and patience is their strongest weapon.
I have enjoyed reading many books set in the W40K universe. I have never played it, but wondered: If I do, what army should I choose? Orks? Just for the fun of it? Ultramarines? Just for the firepower? Tyranids? Because then everyone else is just nom-noms? But now I know. If I ever take part in a W40K game, I will bring the Alpha Legion. Rules do not matter. Points do not matter. Suddenly my operatives turn up where my opponent did not expect them. Suddenly my opponent finds that one of his units was actually Alpha Legion all along. And then I win. And even if my opponent wins, he will always wonder: Was that the plan all along? There will be planted a seed of doubt in his mind. And then I win. Because I am Alpharius.
The Emperor is a puppet of the ruinous powers, feeding humanity into a meat grinder that funnels right into the mouth of the dark warp entities. The chaos gods couldn't ask for a more ideal fuel source.
Well the Emperor had an idea, unfortunately his idea relied on 21 lesser beings carefully trained and under controll and a Technology that was not rediscovered ever since the fall of the Old ones , he was too ambitious and blinded by his dream to realise that despite everything he lacked the contingency plans due to the timelimit his plan involved. And now he is forced to watch as his 20k worth of Hard work fall apart helplessly
I loved this video, there's so little on the alpha legion so it was really awesome to hear some. What' the outtro choir song i think I have heard that somewhere. Do you have stuff on Sevetar,Khârn or the Night lords? anyway you earned my sub
I just figured out what the ALPHA legions real specialty is, any member can become Alpharius and Omegaon the Primarchs can actually transfer their minds and personalities to any members of the legion thus making them a type of perpetual thus when they say I am Alpharius they are actually stating a fact they may also be able to do this with more than one host simultaneously!!!$$$+++I AM ALPHARIUS TAKES ON A WHOLE NEW MEANING 🤔 😉 😳!!!$$$+++
This isn't true, read the novels. I would like it to be true but unfortunately it isn't. The primarchs and primarchs. It would be awesome lore but GW aren't that clever
@@muglypunt968 It was just an idea hopefully GW will pick up on it and add it to the lore because the ALPHA legion is one of my favorites and I hated too see them become tratior so decided to give them a freebie!!!$$$+++
@@waynehaygood3122 they are my favourite too, I think if your read some more you will see where they stand. They're whole stick is to be unknowable. I don't want their legacy to be sullied by warp taint, I know that's not what you think or want but it is in the end
@@muglypunt968 I have read most of the books both Horus heresy and 40k basically since the age of 5 anything sci fi or fantasy I've probably read it from comics to novels 😆 I love to read and speculate on alternate realities and universes but 40k is one of my favorites 😀!!!$$$+++also Warhammer fantasy!!!$$$+++
Still waiting for an edition of the tabletop 40k where AL is present in both CSM and loyalist SM codices with slight tweaks. Or maybe just its own codex a a few unique models or upgrade sprues.
Alpha legion colour scheme and armour style is realy cool. I know it's very un likely but I like to think alpharius and omegan are both alive and it was a legionnaire who fought dorn and was killed
To anyone that haven’t read the book Praetorian of Dorn, please read it if you find the alpha legion fascinating. I find the book is often over looked, yet serve as a great primer for the Siege of Terra series. There is also a great look into the mind of Dorn, and some great human supporting cast. Andromeda-17 is excellent. Spoilers: when Silonius figures out he’s actually Alpharius and slaughters countless Imperial fists is such a great reveal.
Excellent work as always! Looking forward for more elucidation in regards to Adeptus Astartes legions. Also, if I may inquire, what is the music used in your videos? Especially the one at ~ 15:00? Also in regards to music, great job there, gives a whole new level to the masterful transmission.
Holy!!!!! I’ve done it. The emperor did in fact find the Primarch of the Alpha legion first . One of the lost legions, The Third Brother, The Third Head of The Hydra. One of the Lost, The hidden.
Night lords: if we can't scare it into submission, we can make winning hurt so much that they'd rather give us the win and worstecomes to worst we can just keep takinng out their leadership Alpha legion: oh, would you look at that? Your heads of state and military are friends of our legion? You would like to bring us into the fold and give all power to us? Much obliged. Oh, your heads of state were actually Alpharius all along? No way, man.
Funny enough they are the most human of the legions in how they interact with humans, marines and their primarchs alike. They talk to each other with a common cause and shared comradery that no other Legion would talerate with cosorting with base line humans save the salamanders. Even the real alpharus would talk to his human subjects with a casual approach that would be out of place in any other legion. They were just practical
When the Remembrancer said Horus screened his own legion to make sure there were no Alpha Legionares in them and in the video about Corvus Corax he had to do the same thing. My question is do the books say how they do this? Because unless I misheard the Alpha Legion can take the faces and memories of anyone they want, so how do you find the spies?
Alpharius Omegon was told If Big E wins humanity slowly rots and then dies and Chaos wins but if Horus wins humanity dies fast but so does Chaos and, in my brand new headcanon at least, in proper Alpharius fashion he went "its big brain time". What if I just do enough bullshit that neither wins and maybe then we can save humanity AND wipe out Chaos. So anyways its been 10,000 years of that now
this is one of the very few channels that could never reply or like any comment and no one would care, based on it being similar to an audio-library in the Imperium.
I am omegon the other head of the hydra.
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.pin pls
But who is really the third head? Going by naming structure, wouldn't it start with an s?
@@lukkaredwolf3534 malcador or the emperor
@@CodyisKing my normal joke is sigmar,
@@lukkaredwolf3534 why S? Cos Alpha is first letter of Greek alphabet and Omega last, obviously where they 2 got their names, so don't get where S comes in. I am new to this and just curious
@@Bobbb-f3i kind of a crapshoot thought. Can't be Tau, because that is in use. Mu would be kind of silly, as the middle letter of the alphabet, but Sigma sounds distinct enough, and of course, there is a "Primarch adjacent" individual in Sigmar...
Also, with how much they pump the 18 Primarch's bit, and Sigma is the 18th letter...
So just going from the hip.
If knowledge is power, then to be unknown is to be unconquerable.
The Alpha Legion has always been a contender for my favorite legion.
I like Dark Angels and the Alpha Legion. Dark Angels because their aesthetic I believe best fits the style of the 41 millennium and Alpha Legion for reasons described in this video.
Knowledge is power. Power corrupts.
That sounded epic
These guys really are the definition of ''My goals are beyond your understanding''
Their goals are also beyond their own understanding, which there lies the problem. They are so caught up in their web of of lies that they no longer know what the truth is.
@@dovakiin296 that’s why they’re so fun to play - if you lose it is part of the plan and I could be lying but who knows?
Bro my fav characters for this legion are alpharius, alpharius and alpharius. My fav part was when alpharius helped alpharius beat an imposter alpharius who wasn't with the alpha legion and tried to stop alpharius helping alpharius beat the evil enemies of alpharius.
This is my favorite comment
Your marklars are wise and true.
Monty Python Vikings: Alpharius, Alpharius, Alpharius.....
Betarius
Alpharius was a prick, clearly Alpharius helping Alpharius was the best.
In the 31st Millennium a crack commando unit was declared traitor by the Imperium for a crime no one can say they committed.
These men promptly escaped from imperial space to the eastern fringes.
Today, still wanted by the Imperium,
They survive as soldiers of fortune.
If you have a problem,
If no one else can help
And if you can find them
Maybe you can hire the Alpha Legion
They had the best theme music of any legion, in the 80's.
Perfect 😅😄
someone get Flash Gitz or ANYBODY to do a video of a Alpha Legion of the A*team intro before I kick the bucket!... PLEASE!!!
@@blacklorgar YES!
Well summarized Orator Walker, the legion will remember this
“Congratulations on your promotion.”
“Sir?”
“You are Alpharius now.”
It was MY week to be Alpharius!
*pouts in High Gothic*
Just after reading that first line I honestly thought your comment was going to be just two Alpha Legionnaires confused by their own insane command structure
"Congratulations on your promotion"
"What do you mean I'm YOUR captain and I'M here to promote YOU"
"Nonsense. Oh, wait, damn it....are you?"
"I mean...I guess. I AM wearing a gauntlet with fancy snakes on it right now soo"
"Yeah you're the obvious FAKE captain I'm the incognito REAL captain, idiot. Or were we using hand signals to tell rank this mission shit"
"Wooow you might wanna watch your words, battle-brother. I AM Alpharius after all"
"Whoever I worship please give me strength"
Oh man, i remember when the Pluto battle first dropped, everyone lost their shit after that. All the Imperial Fist fanboys being like "hes dead hes dead hes dead", and all the Alpha fans being like "you must be new here."
From 2 minute shorts to 20 minutes of gold! Hail to the remembrancer
The XX legion. The double cross legion indeed.
the jaded triple cross
It feels like The Emperor made Alpharion and Omegon specifically to counteract Tzeentch.
Just imagine Cato Sicarius and an Alpha legionnaire getting into it.
"It is I, Cato Sicarius!"
"I've known all along Cato, as I Alpharius, knows better!"
"I Cato Sicarius doubt that"
"Clearly I, Alpharius knows more!"
the more i think about it the more likely it is cato sicarius is an alpha legionaire
You know it occurs to me that, Imperial bureaucracy being what it is, there is no way the Alpha Legion HASN'T founded at least one, if not several successor chapters in plain sight. "Hi, we're Ultramarines successors number 4752."
"We...don't have records of you"
"You must have lost the paperwork. See our armour is blue."
"....yea that seems legit. Hey why are you covered in scales though?"
"Fuck you, it looks bitchin, thats why."
"......fair point, well made."
Hell Imperial Bureaucracy being what it is 100% the Legion can infiltrate everywhere by just awakening a sleeping agent and be like "bro dont look at these papers just accept them" *a new founding of a few dozens chapters coming from nowhere*
The Raven Guard mastered shadows and hiding in the darkness.
The Alpha Legion mastered hiding in somebody else's skin and in plain sight.
The Night Haunters are dumb and wear flayed bits of still screaming people as they stumble in the dark making spooky noises.
*Raven Guard:* You don't see them and don't know they're there.
*Night Lords:* You don't see them but you know they're there.
*Alpha Legion:* You see them but you don't know they're there.
@@jocosesonata Conrad was a self-aware abortion and he exclusively wasted precious time to remind himself, his children, all who would listen that was all he was. He became a half successful failure in the eyes of Corvus and Vulkan; his redemption and ruin respectively. I genuinely think Vulkan set Conrad on the path of suicide because that is what _needed_ to happen, and Curze unintentionally made Corvus the Lorgar-Stalker shadow of vengeance he is today, just as the Emps and Malc played out. It's part of Conrad's beauty, most of his shame. The fact that Night Lords even exist is pretentious-maximus, wouldn't be surprised to find all that is left of the Night Haunters children are just low-key slaves to Slaneeshgasms.
@@attemptedunkindness3632 What?
The Alpha Legion doing well with the Dark Angels, Iron Hands, and Luna Wolves is not surprising. They did also have success with the Blood Angels but it was strained as they didn't communicate any of their plan but the mission was a overall success
Before you realize it, we are there. Like gheists and shades that dog your every step we mirror you in exact ways, every move you make has been planned for and predicted. We are as many as we are duplicitous, for we are unseen, undetected, and unbreakable. Clint to your false hopes and faltering trust for soon, it may be your last. Hydra Dominatus
Master Vorn! Master Vorn! this one, this one here!
@@ursinecanine9657 they will never believe you
Deezamn. Ok, that's ominous.
I was always confused about what the cabal told alpharius. We know that they were wrong because Eldrad ended up having the rest of them killed and has stated in recent lore that the fates of the aeldari and humanity are a package deal for better or for worse. So I think that he was simply naïve back then, though this time its actually good writing and understandable. From the cabal's perspective it looked as if humanity was on its way out with the outbreak of the heresy, so Eldrad figured yeah they are probably toast, but lets see if we can get this key player to do what we want before the dust settles. It is also probable that eldrad saw a real vision of the future of 40K as we know it and came to those conclusions. He being a great far-seer and all but not omniscient I think this would make sense.
I think the cabal saw multiple outcomes, but wanted to pick the one where humanity also gets wiped out.
I read “Legion” but what source material gives further insight into Eldrad and the Cabal? Thank you.
@@malcolmbrown5331 'Armor of Fate' reveals some, though I do not want to spoil
The Kabal were either Chaos agents or were afraid of humanity returning to complete dominance of the galaxy. They weren't acting on behalf of the "greater good".
Or Perhaps the Cabal relied too much on their insight and Prophesy but the recent Chaos activity that was undivided proved to much for them and corrupted their insight to only show a Chaos victory of some kind over humanity
This is why fan fic is terrible. Just plucked that theory out your ass
@@criticalcommenter The second theory sounds entirely plausible. And your comment is needlessly rude. This is why youtube comments are terrible.
Alpha Legion is one of my top-3 favorite loyalist legions.
You mean traitor legion?
@@shadowwalker3958 Or did I?
I love the idea of nobody really knowing if the Alpha Legion are actually traitors or just deep cover Loyalists
The book "Legion" is truly one of the best in the Heresy books I hate it didn't get a contiunation like several others did because I just love the Alpha Legion and its uses if regular humans to accomplish their goals.
Recommend HH Primarch Series Alpharius.
But yeah … definitely want to see the other characters in Legion again..
Wait! It didn't? Come on... GW missed the opportunity... Legion and Mechanicum are such a good read
The Alpha Legion definitely embody aspects of Revolver Ocelot and Big Boss from the Metal Gear Series.
Ah, yes. If Marvel's Hydra had a supersoldier organization, this would be them. Probably one of the biggest question marks in 40k, they are exceptionally good at infiltration, deep reconnaissance, and assassination. All of these and so much more make them the true masters of _Information_ _Control_ , the bane of the Ultramarines. The only contenders for this position on the Loyalist side would be the Raven Guard.
We are Legion, for we are Many. Hydra Dominatus!
One Time The high lords of terra sent 6 vindicare assasins To hunt down some alpha legion officer.
Some time later, 6 heads were found in The freezer of the high lords.
Alpha legionares are some sneaky gits.
I think not even the Ravens are that effective. The sons of Corax are too humane, while the sons of Curze are too extremist. They are the kind of legion that would poison the water supply of a hive city for years just to destabilize a sector
My favorite traitor(?) Legion!!!
I often find myself pondering about the hypothetical pairings of differing legions/chapters together on a dual campaign to takeover a world, and then wondering which potential pairing of 2 chapter/legion’s would be the most effective, have the highest synergy, with the best unit cohesion overall. In Leading to a successful campaign.
For that reason, an Alpha Legion & Night Lord’s World Compliance Campaign is A Highly intriguing concept to me.
If only i could find more lore about such an occurrence.
Once upon a time, I ran a Dark Heresy game where the Alpha Legion was staying in the shadows behind an army of World Eaters. The Alphas would find targets of opportunity, utilizing the carnage of the World Eaters, so that the PCs were always wondering how many steps behind they really were.
Alas for them, it became a wipe. Chaos won.
Or did it?
I like the story where some rando guard unit is getting waxed by like...the Tyranids or something and they pray and pray for days for salvation and the get saved by some space maries. Then the end gives a description of the guard looking up at the marine "clad in dragon skin armor with a 3 headed dragon heraldry " and the guardsman end his pray with, "For the emporer"....the marine repeats the phrase.
I think the alpha legion got so used to being SO deep undercover they never realized youve got to, like, pop that cover EVENTUALLY.
Like "man, theyll never expect im undercover if im game to massacre everybody at istvan 5!!"
To "theyll NEVER see through my disguise if i plot the downfall of the empire!"
To "getting murdered in the traitorous attempt to destroy the emperor will ensure I NEVER get my cover blown.. PERFECT!!"
My favorite legion. Hydra Dominatus!
There should be a stratagem for the Alpha legion in the game that on a certain roll, you can reveal members of the enemy army to really be Alpha legion infiltrators disguised as them.
YES FINALLY! We are legion, we are Alpharius... human operatives on standby, orders?
This is my head cannon, Alpharius and Omegon swapped minds. We know the Alpha Legion has the ability to mind swap and it makes since for one of the greatest lies the Alpha Legion ever told to involve that aspect. They would have had their memories altered somewhat but retain some of their core personality. This will help explain why Alpharius acts like Omegon and Omegon acts like Alpharius. So this means that when Alpharius died vs Dorn, it was the body of Alpharius but the mind of Omegon. After all Omegon himself stated, "My name is Alpharius, this WAS a lie". Omegon (who's mind is Alpharius but forgetting the was the real Alpharius) steps up as Alpharius (one of the most Alpha Legion things to be honest). He teams up with John Grammaticus and others to reach the Imperial Palace to help deliver a message to The Emperor. While we don't know what happens after this (yet), it can be estimated that given how close he would be to the Emperor by the time The Vengeful Spirit lowers its shield. This will allow Omegon (Alpharius) to join his brothers and father on the final battle (perhaps even being the one to discover The Emperor's broken body while giving credit to Rogal Dorn.) After this he will later fake his death by allowing his body double to be one shot by Roboute. He then spends the next 10,000 years guiding his loyalist squads from the shadows while trying to undermine the heretic side.
That'd make sense if Alpharious didn't mean beginning and Omegon mean the end. Omegon is absolutely the one that is still alive or they both are despite Dorn swearing he killed one. He swears he could tell the difference between the two and whether or not it was one of their sons doing the switcheroo for them, but I'd definitely want someone to think they could if I was them, and I think there's a very high chance they did just that. Hydra Dominatus!
Here's a good question, why did the Emperor allow the Alpha Legion get a beacon to him, instead of letting it be destroyed?
I dont have time to finish watching the video, but a few minutes of Rememberancer's voice is all I need to smash that like button.
It would have been cool if Warhammer 40K Space Marine 2 had the previous character broken out of prison by the Alpha Leigon, and it became a Alpha Leigon story.
I’m pretty sure cypher is one of them alpharius or omegon, who the fuck besides a primarch is escaping custodies custody like he did after riding with gulliman from the black stone fortress whilst carrying the lions sword on his back. This just tied it all together with alpharius’s connection with the dark angels at the end of the unification wars killing the thunder warriors and the only one to know of his existence besides malcador and Big E was Valdor the head of the custodies. I really think he got his face time with the Big E right after Gulliman because I’m sure there’s still a custodie or 2 that knows what’s what
Yea.....with that cloaking and morphing armor tech....that sounds right. No regular, schmegular Astartes is gonna pull that off. Plus wasnt one of their Primarch "powers" the ability to blend in? I think the book mentioned some kind of gestalt pyschic veil, always present...or one of the other primarchs said something like that?
Part of me wants to know their true allegiance, the other part hopes that it is never revealed because this guessing game is the beauty of Alpha Legion. Eve the writers don't know it.
Maybe they are traitors, maybe they are the deepest of the deep undercover agents ....maybe neither and they fight both the chaos AND the Imperium, as it is the biggest source of power for chaos in the galaxy ....or maybe something completely different.... that's why they are my favorite :)
Pretty sure the alpha legion are simply hive minded. What better a deception than appearing to have weaknesses like command structures where there simply are none. Appearing to disguise said structure would simply add to the believability of the deception. Hence their ability to so easily adapt to changes in the structure. Alpharius and omegon could be swarmlord-esque nodes of the hivemind that act with a degree of independence, but still remain part of the whole.
Great work. I am doing an arma 3 mod battle between the alpha legion vs the black templars. To assist the alpha legion I have some chaos cultists units. To assist the black templars, I have used the valhanans units. To add fuel to the fire I added an ork invasion as a third faction. Thank you for your dedication to the lore.
I really love the lore of the Alpha Legion and no-one really knowing what's going on with them. Even so far as I really don't think either of their Primarchs are dead.
alpharious/omegon where described as a single soul inhabiting 2 bodys in one of the books, and them beeing primarchs i think its pretty impossible for them to be dead dead in that sense
From now on when people ask why I like the Alpha Legion I'm linking this video. Can't stress this explanation enough at 7:07 - 8:20 as to whether they are loyalist or traitor - due to the predictions of the Cabal about the fate of the universe.
You have my thanks @Only Valiant!
Loyalists? That’s a joke, right?
Maybe the best entry up to now!
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Thank you Master ❣️
Man you do a fantastic job on these vids , really really enjoyable content . Thanks very much
They by far have the coolest armor and color scheme.
7:10 An alien organization called the Cabal gives the Alpha legion two prophecies of the future. These predictions vastly change the direction of action of the Alpha Legion. 16:00 The 20th Legion... The Alpha legion, sometimes recruits non Astartes members in order to better infiltrate places.
Alpharius is the perfect clone of the emperor working for the better good. Keeping the universe in balance. Alpharius doesnt kill but will sacrifice at will.
I like to entertain the idea that their are loyalist Alpha legionairs operating for the empire. As their numbers were never really known and using the chaos at the end of the heresy to set up loyalist chapters.
I agree. It is something I have thought about before. It would make a very cool story that played out over thousands of years.
They are still loyal, just operating on the logic of "the end result justifies the means to reach it"...they will be the first to fight for the emperium when they know all the pieces have fell into place...they have planned it all out to end every traitor in one fell swoop. Planning and patience is their strongest weapon.
That's just the sort of thing they'd WANT you to think... 😂
...and the plot thickens....
Just found your channel and I'm really digging it. I love me some good quality 40K lore videos. I will be subscribing for sure.
You are my favourite Warhammer youtuber, keep going
Was wondering when you'd do the alpha legion, keep up the good work the emperor protects
I have enjoyed reading many books set in the W40K universe. I have never played it, but wondered: If I do, what army should I choose? Orks? Just for the fun of it? Ultramarines? Just for the firepower? Tyranids? Because then everyone else is just nom-noms? But now I know. If I ever take part in a W40K game, I will bring the Alpha Legion. Rules do not matter. Points do not matter. Suddenly my operatives turn up where my opponent did not expect them. Suddenly my opponent finds that one of his units was actually Alpha Legion all along. And then I win. And even if my opponent wins, he will always wonder: Was that the plan all along? There will be planted a seed of doubt in his mind. And then I win. Because I am Alpharius.
Easily my favorite video so far!
You have out done yourself!
Well done Remembrancer: HYDRA DOMINATUS!
The Alpha Legion have me the most excited for the scouring series
I would love to have more books about them ... but on the other hand the mystery makes it so damn good.
They basically play the traitor to take opportunities to nudge the imperium in the direction of victory
The alpha Legion is always telling the truth. Even when lying. ESPECIALLY when lying.
Theres 1 truth about the Alpha Legion, its that everything is Lie and everything is True, for every lie has a bit of truth laced in it
"Are we the Baddies?"
"I don't know. Are we?"
Amazing video. Well done. Alpharius approves. Allegedly...
What is truth and what is false none can truly say, but we many know our goal. That goal is closing to completion
5:50 Konrad?
More like Corax to me...🎉
The Emperor is a puppet of the ruinous powers, feeding humanity into a meat grinder that funnels right into the mouth of the dark warp entities. The chaos gods couldn't ask for a more ideal fuel source.
Well the Emperor had an idea, unfortunately his idea relied on 21 lesser beings carefully trained and under controll and a Technology that was not rediscovered ever since the fall of the Old ones , he was too ambitious and blinded by his dream to realise that despite everything he lacked the contingency plans due to the timelimit his plan involved.
And now he is forced to watch as his 20k worth of Hard work fall apart helplessly
Heresy!
I think we will finally discover Alpharius true Identity once the first person's claims to NOT be Alpharius
This is so amazing keep it up brother
I loved this video, there's so little on the alpha legion so it was really awesome to hear some. What' the outtro choir song i think I
have heard that somewhere.
Do you have stuff on Sevetar,Khârn or the Night lords?
anyway you earned my sub
@16:27 is actually such a dope picture/artwork
Great job yet again!
Or: "I Am Alpharius and So Can You!"
Still hope Omegon is alive somewhere,going full Mission Impossible on Chaos
The Alpha legion and the Raven Guard once played hide and seek.
The game is still on to this very day
Not corrupted by chaos and somewhat loyal. Alpha legion was a tool The Emperor used effectively.
Love the longer videos
I just figured out what the ALPHA legions real specialty is, any member can become Alpharius and Omegaon the Primarchs can actually transfer their minds and personalities to any members of the legion thus making them a type of perpetual thus when they say I am Alpharius they are actually stating a fact they may also be able to do this with more than one host simultaneously!!!$$$+++I AM ALPHARIUS TAKES ON A WHOLE NEW MEANING 🤔 😉 😳!!!$$$+++
This isn't true, read the novels. I would like it to be true but unfortunately it isn't. The primarchs and primarchs. It would be awesome lore but GW aren't that clever
@@muglypunt968 It was just an idea hopefully GW will pick up on it and add it to the lore because the ALPHA legion is one of my favorites and I hated too see them become tratior so decided to give them a freebie!!!$$$+++
@@waynehaygood3122 they are my favourite too, I think if your read some more you will see where they stand. They're whole stick is to be unknowable. I don't want their legacy to be sullied by warp taint, I know that's not what you think or want but it is in the end
@@muglypunt968 I have read most of the books both Horus heresy and 40k basically since the age of 5 anything sci fi or fantasy I've probably read it from comics to novels 😆 I love to read and speculate on alternate realities and universes but 40k is one of my favorites 😀!!!$$$+++also Warhammer fantasy!!!$$$+++
@@waynehaygood3122 fantasy is my fave but 40k has always grabbed me
another great video brother the emperors light shines upon you once again
DOW's Alpha Legion: " Metal bawkses"
I like the Salamanders, now. I can add the Alpha Legion to that list. (The draconic themes are totally not a major reason as to why I like em. >_>)
Still waiting for an edition of the tabletop 40k where AL is present in both CSM and loyalist SM codices with slight tweaks. Or maybe just its own codex a a few unique models or upgrade sprues.
Well Alpharius, as Alpharius myself, I can agree this actually a great idea. How about we ask Alpharius, if they agree? 🤣😂😁
I'm Alpharius, and I approve of this message.
Or do I?! 😂
Harrowmaster is also a good book for AL fans
We are feared because we are the unknown. We are Alpharius.
*Hydra Dominatus*
ok i loved it wished i had found a while back! great stuff. do you have any info in the Iron shades?
Alpha legion colour scheme and armour style is realy cool. I know it's very un likely but I like to think alpharius and omegan are both alive and it was a legionnaire who fought dorn and was killed
To anyone that haven’t read the book Praetorian of Dorn, please read it if you find the alpha legion fascinating. I find the book is often over looked, yet serve as a great primer for the Siege of Terra series. There is also a great look into the mind of Dorn, and some great human supporting cast. Andromeda-17 is excellent.
Spoilers: when Silonius figures out he’s actually Alpharius and slaughters countless Imperial fists is such a great reveal.
They are the Astartes Elite!
Born to deceit!
Never face defeat!
Ghost Legion!
I'm Alpharius and this is my prefered channel on TH-cam.....
Excellent work as always!
Looking forward for more elucidation in regards to Adeptus Astartes legions.
Also, if I may inquire, what is the music used in your videos?
Especially the one at ~ 15:00?
Also in regards to music, great job there, gives a whole new level to the masterful transmission.
Best legion so far.
Hydra Dominatus!
Holy!!!!! I’ve done it. The emperor did in fact find the Primarch of the Alpha legion first . One of the lost legions, The Third Brother, The Third Head of The Hydra. One of the Lost, The hidden.
Going by the intro he would have been the singer of a HC band in another life.. ⚜️💀⚙️
Magnus did nothing wrong but Alpharius is just going with the flow....
I’ve never really understood the alpharius/omegon concept.
So there was 21 primarchs, not 20??
What about the 2nd and 11th legion?
Night lords: if we can't scare it into submission, we can make winning hurt so much that they'd rather give us the win and worstecomes to worst we can just keep takinng out their leadership
Alpha legion: oh, would you look at that? Your heads of state and military are friends of our legion? You would like to bring us into the fold and give all power to us? Much obliged. Oh, your heads of state were actually Alpharius all along? No way, man.
It really wouldnt have been hard for chaos to get primarch recruits considering the emperor killed all of the thunderwarriors.
Funny enough they are the most human of the legions in how they interact with humans, marines and their primarchs alike. They talk to each other with a common cause and shared comradery that no other Legion would talerate with cosorting with base line humans save the salamanders. Even the real alpharus would talk to his human subjects with a casual approach that would be out of place in any other legion. They were just practical
He was a custodies, shorter than a Primarch. The other was captive of the slaugth and had no identity.
When the Remembrancer said Horus screened his own legion to make sure there were no Alpha Legionares in them and in the video about Corvus Corax he had to do the same thing. My question is do the books say how they do this? Because unless I misheard the Alpha Legion can take the faces and memories of anyone they want, so how do you find the spies?
i would argue too dangerous to make a full legion out of.
Alpharius Omegon was told If Big E wins humanity slowly rots and then dies and Chaos wins but if Horus wins humanity dies fast but so does Chaos and, in my brand new headcanon at least, in proper Alpharius fashion he went "its big brain time". What if I just do enough bullshit that neither wins and maybe then we can save humanity AND wipe out Chaos. So anyways its been 10,000 years of that now
When the Alpha legion gets involved you know they're doing the right thing.
The Alpha Legion in a nutshell
MASS CONFUSION!
My favorite legion.
They also showed up in the Kaurava system later and were very mean to the planetary defense forces. Believe me.
this is one of the very few channels that could never reply or like any comment and no one would care, based on it being similar to an audio-library in the Imperium.
I am Alpharius!
You
The Hydra awakes.