‘You would say that I listened too much to Alpharius and Lorgar - that a war fought with deceit is doomed to fail. Perhaps you would be right. The Hydra does not see all, and now his blindness places a knife at his own back. Corax would not have made such an error.’ - Horus Lupercal
@@orygungeeksolitude1380 *cough cough* only one of these primarchs got hit with a mortal combat fatality from Rogal Dorn, and it wasn’t Corax *cough cough*
My personal belief is that "Alpharius" (aka Omegon) is the one that turned traitor and that "Omegon" (aka actual alpharius) stayed loyal. If take what we learnt from the book Head of the Hydra, then actual alpharius has been with the emperor since the beginning. Alpharius understands the emperor, his goals, his dreams, his vision. Omegon, who was scattered into the galaxy doesnt know any of this. Remember a key thing, omegon is the one that found the pale spear, meanwhile alpharius preferred the custodians spears. My point is, Alpharius and Omegon switched names, my thinking is that they stayed with switched names. So ever since they switched, whenever one speaks of "alpharius" its omegon, and whenever one speaks of "omegon" its alpharius. I think actual alpharius is still alive and actual omegon died fighting Dorn
@@AtomicMonkeybutt Ahem, Idk if we are talking as humans or roleplayed 40k characters here, but if he doesn't agree with the emperor's vision that 100% does not mean that he is on the side of chaos
My head cannon is that Alpharius and Omegon changed minds sometime before the Heresy. So when Alpharius died, it was the body of Alpharius and the mind of Omegon. However, because the code words were not said, Alpharius and Omegon continued to believe they were their brothers. To this day Alpharius lives in the body of Omegon believing himself to still be Omegon.
In one of the Novels Alpharius and Omegon secretly traded places. And so the Primarch who would constantly be visible would be Omegon posing as Alpharius, while Alpharius would pretend to be Omegon. Plus it's obvious that Rogal Dorn killed Omegon especially since Omegon was using his own personal spear.
I hope not, I always prefer Omegon as he seemed a little more….. analytical and saw the truth where Alpharius seemed a little more sweep up in the game that his brothers played. Maybe because Omegon never was actually officially recognised by the other primarchs.
"I am Alpharius, this is a lie", the first lines of Head of the Hydra. It is a lie because he was, in fact, not Alpharius, he was Omegon. "I am Alpharius, this was a lie.", the last lines of Head of the Hydra. It was a lie because Alpharius was slain by Dorn, so Omegon took the name Alpharius. That's how I see it.
I myself would even question if he really died that day. Or rather if any of them ever died. There are ways you can Clone a Primarch as we have seen with The Uncorruptable Fulgrim. It would fit so well if there were a bunch of this clones to the extents that they themselves are unsure who is who. I know this is just tomfoolery but would can you expect from the Alpha Legion. I am Alpharius.
I'm not a huge fan of russ but I have to give him credit for his instinct at the end there. "I'm surprised there's only one of you" I Bet he felt genuine fear for a moment haha
What kind of fool do you take me for? You're Alpharius, He's Alpharius, He's Alpharius, I'M ALPHARIUS! Are there any other Alpharius i should know about!?
You have no idea how much I appreciate the subtitles being a non-native english speaker. It makes so much more clear and enjoyable along with the narration.
I want BL just add a single paragraph during the end of a 40k book where an ally or saviour for the book contacts a shadowy figure who elf as Omegon and declares that the mission was a success and then the book ends. God, the fan base would have a field day trying to piece together the plans and last 10,000 years hahaha!
If you'll allow me, I would like to summarize how I see Alpharius with a quote from Star Trek: Dr. Bashir : What I want to know is, out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't? Elim Garak : My dear Doctor, they're all true. Dr. Bashir : Even the lies? Elim Garak : Especially the lies.
This could be understood in two ways. 1. Everything that was told was a lie and that even the lies themselves that were very convincing were still lies nonetheless. 2. All of the stories told had some grain of truth to them even if some stories that seem far more absurd than the others, the question though is how does one get the absolute truth from all these fragments.
I love that a dumb joke I made forever ago basically became canon. "Hey guys, hide one in his room. The Emperor is gonna go all over the galaxy looking for the primarchs, and never think to look, then BOOM baby in the sock drawer." .. or words to that effect.
@@misterkillroy2952 I mean, I have contributed stuff to warhammer over in the b&c, and ADB is a member, I know a few of our ideas have become canon over the years :) but if you're meaning verbatim, no I don't think it got said in a novel anywhere :3
@@NemFX Either way, it is a potential lie among many more potential lies. Still, there is evidence for it, though there is evidence for the others as well.
I mean, I know I'm not the first one to say this but "If the Alpha Legion stays loyal, the Horus Heresy will end at the cost of the Emperor being interred in the Golden Throne, and the Imperium will slowly decay for 10000 years (...) However, the Alpha Legion joined the traitors and the prophecy turned out to be wrong" Ahem. I do believe there's an alternative hypothesis there.
Alpha Legion works on opposites. So they joined the traitors, but that is a lie. They actually stayed loyal and because of that Big E now sits on his chair. But at the same time, Alpha legion doesn't work on opposites, so the Cabals prohpecy was just bollocks and they turned traitor. I love these dudes so much
Alpharius rules. Unlike other Primarch’s he encourages his officers to offer questions and criticism of potential plans and isn’t bothered by it in the least.
Alpharius's body died. His mind lives on in one of his commanders, and that body will eventually become Alpharius's old body. Mantling is a thing in 40k. Omegon was rumoured to be killed, but even Roboute doesn't believe it to be so. There is a substantial chance they are both alive and basically unscathed. As for what side they're on? That should be obvious. Their own. Omegon has directly stated that he is for the Imperium. Alpharius could go either way. It would make sense for them to be on opposite sides. But the Alpha Legion has always been it's own side. It allies temporarily, but it is it's own side.
@@NemFX Omegon died fighting Dorn while Alpharius faked his death by giving some of his blood to his Captain and sacrificing him. Actual Alpharius lives.
I'm not waiting till I hear it all because this blocks transmission is coming at an opportune time because I'm having a shitball day so just like Big B last week you have sent out a transmission right in time for me to continue my journey and and get uplifted
@@TheRemembrancer This is just a fan theory of mine, but all of this makes me think that the Alpha Legion was created by the Emperor himself as a way to get intel from any and all avenues.
… as much as We Many wish to deny this we shall continue to allow this idea to fester as we find the Lion’s anger at such an accusation to be barely worth it
That would be THE ultimate plot twist, although I think Cypher is Alpharius....that damn psychic veil is crazy plus escaping the heavily guarded cell after helping the newly resurrected Gulliman reach Terra? Who else but Alpharius? 🤷🏾♂️
I read the alpharius book, I believe when he attacked terra and fought dawn it was meant to highlight the weaknesses of dawns defense so he could improve them before the siege of terra. But who will ever really know
Thanks for your work on the Primarchs, it was really good to see the story from both perspectives loyalist and traitor. Greetings from Kilkenny, R.O.I 🇮🇪
🟣 The Alpha Legion who become Crocodiles of Slaanesh (Night Lords become Dragons and Emperor's Children become Serpents), along with their Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon. The Chaos Symbol of Slaanesh is the Dark Ice Moon (in various lunar forms). The Dark Hydra of Slaanesh! Kyriss the Perverse makes Alpharius/Omegon and the Alpha Legion fall to the Dark Prince.
Master you did it again! Absolutely Astonishing! I simply cannot stop listeing to it, the quality is out of this world. Please never stop brightening my day with your elucidations.💚💚💚 The Hydra Awakes!
The twin Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon definitely combine various aspects of Revolver Ocelot and Big Boss from the Metal Gear Series to be such uniquely convoluted characters.
I don't know where you're gonna find more material in the future but I gotta say that this Primarch series was fantastic. Very enjoyable to listen to before going to bed. Thank you!
Didn't they switch place ? When "Alpharius" revealed himself he actually put Omegon in his place and remained anonymous to his brothers. Rogal killed the who roamed and carried himself like "Alpharius" a primarch indeed. But he wasn't the same guy that sigilite trained. The primarch found on Terra is still alive
Is Dorn really stronger than Alpharius, Dorn was absolutely focus, Alpharius was trying to persuade Dorn the whole time while getting Dorn just where he wanted and Dorns bodyguard deviated the attack just slightly, even if that's not the case Dorn deemed the only way to beat his brother was getting impaled and hoping for the best. This is a lie I lived.
I never liked the idea of The Hydra demanding a 1v1 - that’s not his game. I don’t like the way his death is written. Though at the same time, I feel IF get A LOT of GW love during the HH. Like they rival UM and SW of 40k for plot armour.
I’m a huge Alpha Legion fan, and I am fully convinced Dorn turned Alpharius into a kebob, and Dorn is a fantastic fighter. Alpharius’ hubris got the best of him, but I still believe Omegon is alive and and is I fact a loyalist, leading the loyalist warbands… while the other warbands are thralls of Chaos.
I wonder if that last statement by Russ that he was "surprised there was only one of you" was him hinting that he knew about both alpharius and Omegon.
Theory: Every last Alpha Legion Space Marine "IS" Alpharius/Omegon. All one soul within every member of the chapter. So every "lie" of his discovery is actually truth. Each playing out as the Emperor intended. Just a thought
My favorite Alpha Legion moment was during the Crusade, prior to the Heresy. They actually made an Ork "community" run scared. That is an accomplishment. Hydra Dominatus!
13:23 such as the issue with old prophecies they assume that because they can only see two futures those are the only futures that exist Conrad curze made a similar mistake
Shame there are so few audio books and books in general, I love the plot twists in the alpha legion books and the Alpharius book was the best primearch book imo
They are the "Unknown Variable". The unaccounted for twist. Invariably not present, only to be up to their elbows in everything. The chancers that sow the seeds of doubt, only to remove defeat from the jaws of victory. A cloud of smoke w/ tactual resolve of a blow between the eyes. A victory by deception deserves no less credit than a victory by force. To grant a belief only to have it to be found hallow.
im sure this is great lore but im already up to the fifth time ive heard the "one guy said he boarded horus's ship and when they met horus was no longer angery horus and had a laugh, but its LIES, another guy sais this happened, also LIES, all the time they were LIES unless they werent but that is unlikelyyyy"
Did Rogal kill Alpharuis or did he kill Omegon. He definitely killed one of them but wich one. Was Alpharuis truly loyal or a true traitor. Was Omegon a true traitor or truly loyal. Was Alpharuis Omegon or was Omegon Alpharuis?
Omegon lived (the twin who was raised on Terra, the original Alpharius if you will). Since he was involved with at least one operation that aided the Loyalists I'm betting that Omegon (Terra raised) was the more loyal one and Alpharius was the more traitorous one. Or is this also a lie?
@Carrot Slayer I also understood that the original Alpharuis swaped places with Omegon. I think it was done so That he could shadow controll his legion. I like the idea of og Alpharuis being a loyalist playing the part of the traitor, a renegade and letting some of his legion fall to choas sothat not even they know what's going on. I ultimately believe him to still be loyal but a bit of an extremist.
Bruh, I don't even know if Alpharious is dead, at this point, I can't even be sure there is a twenty-first primarch. Given the fact that they, supposedly can transfer their identities to their gene sons, we just can't know. Hell, if there is an Omegon, he is probably the way he is because Alpharious messed with his mind or development during their gestation. I don't know man, alpha legion.
BROTHA, you have done the Hydra a great honor with this rememberance. And thank you for some tidbits I hadnt heard surrounding the Head of the Hydra. Honor to you great Rememberancer.
Bravo! Excellent retelling of the complex fates of Alpharius Omegon and the 20th Legion. Alpharius himself never left Terra when the other Primarchs were scattered across the warp, and Horus must’ve always been in on the secret from early on. Granting Omegon an honorable discharge for their combined deeds. Interesting, that Alpharius was also lied-to by the Cabal, continuing the inversion theme as well. Which places the Hydra in a similar category of the Dark Angels Fallen new lore. The 1st & the 20th. Hhmmmmm…. 😎
I love how Dorn wasn’t truly mad at the tactics despite them being a near opposite in views he merely scolded him on “going too far” not his ways, Rogal wouldn’t bat an eye he’d just think it’s what was needed to be done.
can’t wait for the book where the alpha legion simultaneously resurrects the emperor and Horus just to kick off the heresy again and then watch it play out
Big E: ...Alpharius, what are you doing? Alpharius:....nothing. Big E: Son, quite trying to hide your brother -__- I counted the gestation capsules. Alpharius:...I don't know what you're on about.
I want to know what they did to that Ork wagh to make the whole xenos crusade run in terror. I think it was a White Scars HH novel. Possibly it was in Path of Heaven. The Alpha legion said "Relax, we'll handle this just picket the outside of the system." and shortly after the whole waagh fled in terror. What did they do to those orks I wonder lol. Cheers m8. Great vid.
I actually have two theories about the Alpha legion, first is that actually everyone in the legion is a primarch and if one of the twin primarchs die then they are sort of reborn in one of their sons, it would go a long way to explain their whole i am alpharius game. It would also explain why the Emperor tried to keep it all a secret and constantly developed their geneseed, instead of having most of the power of the legion in one person he made sure the primarch could never die and all the astartes in the legion could become the primarch, like some weird body switch technique, i also think that Alpharius was meant to be the most powerful of the primarchs but the ruinous powers had to split him during the scattering Second, i acually think they are loyalist, just play this long shadow-war game for the greater good, like he said "we are not shortsighted like my brothers"
@@Rinzler86 thanks, now think about the fact that the Alpha legion primarch was split, instead of them all being godlike marines they all are just regular marines, instead of them all being almost primarch level, it would make sense since their geneseed is taken from one half of a primarch, and that is why the geneseed is damaged and the legion does not have the full potential it was supposed to have, it would be really emperor-like, i mean we saw this before with the thunderwarriors, he just wanted to upgrade the model maybe, and a legion full of primarch level marines where their primarch cant die, well....
It also wasn’t really mentioned the alpha legion has a lot of mortal operatives who the legion were actually pretty loyal to if it didn’t jeopardize the mission
The two lost Primarchs are just Omegon and another Alpharius. the 3rd Alpharius is the 3rd head of the hydra. This is the truth the Ordo Redactus doesn't want you to know.
Everyone ask “who is Alpharius?” but no one say “how is Alpharius?” 😢💪
Or “Why is Alpharius?”
I am fine how about you mortal?
Damn, I’ve been so selfish all these millenniums.
No please don't say it. Now my paranoia will torment me.
Or where is alpharius???
Alpharius: I have a plan!
Everyone: Do you have a goal?
Omegon: A what now?
Forget the heresy we go to Tahiti
@@inquisitorkryptman7893 Wrong! Heresy in Tahiti!
The long game...
@@misterkillroy2952 HAVE FAITH ORTHOR
@@misterkillroy2952 this is a lie
Maybe the real Alpharius were the friends we made along the way. At least one of them.
Or all of them 🤔
@@griffionwyvrus9063 Or my name isn't Alpharius.
@@LegendStormcrow I'm Alpharius.
Maybe.
Like undercover bosses, it's probably that annoying janitor Tony always asking you to smell his fingers
Is Alpharius loyal? Is he traitor? Depends who he is currently trolling.
I feel loyal today
Yes
In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future-
there is only _REDDIT..._
‘You would say that I listened too much to Alpharius and Lorgar - that a war fought with deceit is doomed to fail. Perhaps you would be right. The Hydra does not see all, and now his blindness places a knife at his own back. Corax would not have made such an error.’
- Horus Lupercal
Btw Horus and his allies being fooled by Alfa-legion for 10th time in a single day
Cough gene seed heist cough
@@orygungeeksolitude1380 moreover, PRIMARCH-BASIS GENESEED MADE BY THE EMPEROR HIMSELF...
@@orygungeeksolitude1380 *cough cough* only one of these primarchs got hit with a mortal combat fatality from Rogal Dorn, and it wasn’t Corax *cough cough*
Pretty sure that was just Omegon fucking you guys over Horus.
“We are all a head of the Hydra”
-Alpha Legionnaire
My personal belief is that "Alpharius" (aka Omegon) is the one that turned traitor and that "Omegon" (aka actual alpharius) stayed loyal. If take what we learnt from the book Head of the Hydra, then actual alpharius has been with the emperor since the beginning. Alpharius understands the emperor, his goals, his dreams, his vision. Omegon, who was scattered into the galaxy doesnt know any of this. Remember a key thing, omegon is the one that found the pale spear, meanwhile alpharius preferred the custodians spears. My point is, Alpharius and Omegon switched names, my thinking is that they stayed with switched names. So ever since they switched, whenever one speaks of "alpharius" its omegon, and whenever one speaks of "omegon" its alpharius. I think actual alpharius is still alive and actual omegon died fighting Dorn
That's how it is
Alpharius understands the Emperor, his goals, his dreams, his vision, sure, but that doesn't mean he agrees with it
@@SamraK64If he does not agree with it then he is 100% on the side of chaos, which would be uncharacteristic. Or would it be? Idk. Damned alpharius.
@@AtomicMonkeybutt Ahem, Idk if we are talking as humans or roleplayed 40k characters here, but if he doesn't agree with the emperor's vision that 100% does not mean that he is on the side of chaos
My head cannon is that Alpharius and Omegon changed minds sometime before the Heresy. So when Alpharius died, it was the body of Alpharius and the mind of Omegon. However, because the code words were not said, Alpharius and Omegon continued to believe they were their brothers. To this day Alpharius lives in the body of Omegon believing himself to still be Omegon.
In one of the Novels Alpharius and Omegon secretly traded places. And so the Primarch who would constantly be visible would be Omegon posing as Alpharius, while Alpharius would pretend to be Omegon. Plus it's obvious that Rogal Dorn killed Omegon especially since Omegon was using his own personal spear.
I hope not, I always prefer Omegon as he seemed a little more….. analytical and saw the truth where Alpharius seemed a little more sweep up in the game that his brothers played. Maybe because Omegon never was actually officially recognised by the other primarchs.
"I am Alpharius, this is a lie", the first lines of Head of the Hydra. It is a lie because he was, in fact, not Alpharius, he was Omegon.
"I am Alpharius, this was a lie.", the last lines of Head of the Hydra. It was a lie because Alpharius was slain by Dorn, so Omegon took the name Alpharius.
That's how I see it.
I myself would even question if he really died that day. Or rather if any of them ever died. There are ways you can Clone a Primarch as we have seen with The Uncorruptable Fulgrim. It would fit so well if there were a bunch of this clones to the extents that they themselves are unsure who is who. I know this is just tomfoolery but would can you expect from the Alpha Legion.
I am Alpharius.
I'm not a huge fan of russ but I have to give him credit for his instinct at the end there. "I'm surprised there's only one of you" I Bet he felt genuine fear for a moment haha
What kind of fool do you take me for? You're Alpharius, He's Alpharius, He's Alpharius, I'M ALPHARIUS! Are there any other Alpharius i should know about!?
Continues to watch from the shadows “and another agent’s mental conditioning has snapped… another lunatic for this hive city”
I am a son of Corvus Corax...
Hydra Dominatus 😈
*meows in High Gothic*
@@LegendStormcrow ....Im outta here.
Kill an alpharius and two more will take his place
“and how do you know that the words you speak are truth, remembrancer?”
-alpharius omegon
One day the corpse of the Emperor, seated on the Golden Throne, places their fist on their heart, says HYDRA DOMINATUS and teleports out of there.
You have no idea how much I appreciate the subtitles being a non-native english speaker. It makes so much more clear and enjoyable along with the narration.
I gotta admit... the XXth Legiones Astartes is pretty rad. My gene-sire agrees.
Emps and Sangy!
Just hope the alpha legion is somehow still loyal
Some are, some are not.
I don't even think the Alpha Legion knows. All we know is I am Alpharius and I was here.
I want BL just add a single paragraph during the end of a 40k book where an ally or saviour for the book contacts a shadowy figure who elf as Omegon and declares that the mission was a success and then the book ends. God, the fan base would have a field day trying to piece together the plans and last 10,000 years hahaha!
I hope they forge their own path away from the imperium and the traitors/chaos
@@craynak only if it is revealed that his name is Betus and he reports Gammagon and Deltarian.
Anyone notice how Alphaius doesn't seem to inspire or frighten people as his brothers do?
Yeah the fact that he doesn't have that Primarch aura which every Astarte can sense regardless of geneseed is crazy
No , he literally brainwash them instead
Could be because his soul is split in two
Initially no........but after 1st contact, reality becomes harder to define & harbours less surety!
Malcador did train him for like a century, so I bet Malcador taught Alpharius how to hide that Aura, much like the Emperor can disguise his true form.
Well spoken Remembrancer…
with what little truth you have managed to grasp
Hey bro who you say you were?
@@declanlee6894 your father, now finish planting the breaching charge on that generatorium, we have a timetable to keep…
@@declanlee6894 Don't listen. It's a lie. He's Omegon.
And Omegon is Alpharius
Well spoken, but not necessarily true.
Killroy was there, but Killroy won't tell.
WE ARE ALL ALPHARIUS
This is a lie. I am Omegon
@@LegendStormcrow No, I'm Omegon. You're Alpharius.
If you'll allow me, I would like to summarize how I see Alpharius with a quote from Star Trek:
Dr. Bashir : What I want to know is, out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?
Elim Garak : My dear Doctor, they're all true.
Dr. Bashir : Even the lies?
Elim Garak : Especially the lies.
This could be understood in two ways.
1. Everything that was told was a lie and that even the lies themselves that were very convincing were still lies nonetheless.
2. All of the stories told had some grain of truth to them even if some stories that seem far more absurd than the others, the question though is how does one get the absolute truth from all these fragments.
@@Burning-TwilightYes
I love that a dumb joke I made forever ago basically became canon. "Hey guys, hide one in his room. The Emperor is gonna go all over the galaxy looking for the primarchs, and never think to look, then BOOM baby in the sock drawer." .. or words to that effect.
This is a lie. Or is this a lie?
@@misterkillroy2952 I mean, I have contributed stuff to warhammer over in the b&c, and ADB is a member, I know a few of our ideas have become canon over the years :) but if you're meaning verbatim, no I don't think it got said in a novel anywhere :3
@@NemFX Either way, it is a potential lie among many more potential lies. Still, there is evidence for it, though there is evidence for the others as well.
What's our primary objective lord?
Alpharious: okay step one, join Horus rebellion. Step two, sabotage it from within.
Genius. What's step 3?
Alpharious: *inhales*
Lmao
When you remember that Alfa-legion stole a whole primarch geneseed basis
I mean, I know I'm not the first one to say this but
"If the Alpha Legion stays loyal, the Horus Heresy will end at the cost of the Emperor being interred in the Golden Throne, and the Imperium will slowly decay for 10000 years
(...)
However, the Alpha Legion joined the traitors and the prophecy turned out to be wrong"
Ahem. I do believe there's an alternative hypothesis there.
Alpha Legion works on opposites. So they joined the traitors, but that is a lie.
They actually stayed loyal and because of that Big E now sits on his chair.
But at the same time, Alpha legion doesn't work on opposites, so the Cabals prohpecy was just bollocks and they turned traitor.
I love these dudes so much
Alpharius rules. Unlike other Primarch’s he encourages his officers to offer questions and criticism of potential plans and isn’t bothered by it in the least.
the Twin Primarchs.. people don't know if they still live or not.. what side their Army is on.. so much mystery
Alpharius's body died. His mind lives on in one of his commanders, and that body will eventually become Alpharius's old body. Mantling is a thing in 40k.
Omegon was rumoured to be killed, but even Roboute doesn't believe it to be so.
There is a substantial chance they are both alive and basically unscathed.
As for what side they're on? That should be obvious. Their own. Omegon has directly stated that he is for the Imperium. Alpharius could go either way. It would make sense for them to be on opposite sides. But the Alpha Legion has always been it's own side. It allies temporarily, but it is it's own side.
@@NemFX This is also a lie
@@NemFX
Omegon died fighting Dorn while Alpharius faked his death by giving some of his blood to his Captain and sacrificing him.
Actual Alpharius lives.
Literal embodiment of "nothing is true, everything is permitted."
I'm not waiting till I hear it all because this blocks transmission is coming at an opportune time because I'm having a shitball day so just like Big B last week you have sent out a transmission right in time for me to continue my journey and and get uplifted
Best wishes Brother, May the Emperor Protect you.
@@TheRemembrancer This is just a fan theory of mine, but all of this makes me think that the Alpha Legion was created by the Emperor himself as a way to get intel from any and all avenues.
Finally my favorite loyalists/traitors the XX legion primarchs alpharius and omegon of the Alpha legion hydra dominatus!!!🥸💙
If they are traitors, they are loyalists to that side. If they are loyalists, they are traitors to Chaos. Either way, this is a lie.
The Lion is actually Alpharius
Cypher is actually Omegan
3rs head of the hydra
… as much as We Many wish to deny this we shall continue to allow this idea to fester as we find the Lion’s anger at such an accusation to be barely worth it
I am Alpharius.
That would be THE ultimate plot twist, although I think Cypher is Alpharius....that damn psychic veil is crazy plus escaping the heavily guarded cell after helping the newly resurrected Gulliman reach Terra? Who else but Alpharius? 🤷🏾♂️
I read the alpharius book, I believe when he attacked terra and fought dawn it was meant to highlight the weaknesses of dawns defense so he could improve them before the siege of terra. But who will ever really know
Thank you for telling so many people about me, Alpharius. It's about time people knew my story.
Thanks for your work on the Primarchs, it was really good to see the story from both perspectives loyalist and traitor. Greetings from Kilkenny, R.O.I 🇮🇪
ROI represent!
Sláinte!
🟣
The Alpha Legion who become Crocodiles of Slaanesh (Night Lords become Dragons and Emperor's Children become Serpents), along with their Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon.
The Chaos Symbol of Slaanesh is the Dark Ice Moon (in various lunar forms).
The Dark Hydra of Slaanesh!
Kyriss the Perverse makes Alpharius/Omegon and the Alpha Legion fall to the Dark Prince.
Master you did it again! Absolutely Astonishing! I simply cannot stop listeing to it, the quality is out of this world. Please never stop brightening my day with your elucidations.💚💚💚
The Hydra Awakes!
The twin Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon definitely combine various aspects of Revolver Ocelot and Big Boss from the Metal Gear Series to be such uniquely convoluted characters.
I don't know where you're gonna find more material in the future but I gotta say that this Primarch series was fantastic. Very enjoyable to listen to before going to bed. Thank you!
D.B.! How are you doing? Surprised you got into Warhammer, wait was that why you did that plane job?
@@Hiihtopipa Yup, all that stolen money is going to GW
Didn't they switch place ? When "Alpharius" revealed himself he actually put Omegon in his place and remained anonymous to his brothers. Rogal killed the who roamed and carried himself like "Alpharius" a primarch indeed. But he wasn't the same guy that sigilite trained. The primarch found on Terra is still alive
Damn their armor with the scales like design looks dope😮
Is Dorn really stronger than Alpharius, Dorn was absolutely focus, Alpharius was trying to persuade Dorn the whole time while getting Dorn just where he wanted and Dorns bodyguard deviated the attack just slightly, even if that's not the case Dorn deemed the only way to beat his brother was getting impaled and hoping for the best.
This is a lie I lived.
This is a lie, I died.
@@LegendStormcrow This is a lie, I lived.
I never liked the idea of The Hydra demanding a 1v1 - that’s not his game. I don’t like the way his death is written. Though at the same time, I feel IF get A LOT of GW love during the HH. Like they rival UM and SW of 40k for plot armour.
I’m a huge Alpha Legion fan, and I am fully convinced Dorn turned Alpharius into a kebob, and Dorn is a fantastic fighter. Alpharius’ hubris got the best of him, but I still believe Omegon is alive and and is I fact a loyalist, leading the loyalist warbands… while the other warbands are thralls of Chaos.
@@darko-man8549 Could have been a random sword master just to make people think he died.
Oh look it’s me! Now if anyone has any questions I’d be more than happy to answer... I must say tho, some questions you may not like the answers too
The answer is Yellow.
@@LegendStormcrow lies it is pink
Lets go! This has been an amazing series! You’re doing such an awesome job! 🙌🏻
I wonder if that last statement by Russ that he was "surprised there was only one of you" was him hinting that he knew about both alpharius and Omegon.
The lord of serpents would avail himself on 3/30
Theory: Every last Alpha Legion Space Marine "IS" Alpharius/Omegon. All one soul within every member of the chapter. So every "lie" of his discovery is actually truth. Each playing out as the Emperor intended. Just a thought
Among us: the primarch(s)
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
It’s pretty what Alpharius’ aspect of the Emperor, or AllFather, is: He’s the spymaster.
Or is he? Hydra Dominatus
Just saw this 40k lore with 40k views. Alpha legion up to something for sure
My favorite Alpha Legion moment was during the Crusade, prior to the Heresy. They actually made an Ork "community" run scared. That is an accomplishment. Hydra Dominatus!
13:23 such as the issue with old prophecies they assume that because they can only see two futures those are the only futures that exist Conrad curze made a similar mistake
Shame there are so few audio books and books in general, I love the plot twists in the alpha legion books and the Alpharius book was the best primearch book imo
They are the "Unknown Variable". The unaccounted for twist. Invariably not present, only to be up to their elbows in everything. The chancers that sow the seeds of doubt, only to remove defeat from the jaws of victory. A cloud of smoke w/ tactual resolve of a blow between the eyes.
A victory by deception deserves no less credit than a victory by force. To grant a belief only to have it to be found hallow.
im sure this is great lore but im already up to the fifth time ive heard the "one guy said he boarded horus's ship and when they met horus was no longer angery horus and had a laugh, but its LIES, another guy sais this happened, also LIES, all the time they were LIES unless they werent but that is unlikelyyyy"
The Alpha Legion has the coolest color scheme.
A noticeable amount of trolling
For those who are confused:
Alpharius (who is Omegon) and Omegon (who is Alpharius)
Alpharius(O) is killed by Dorn, while Omegon(A) is still alive.
Not necessarily
This is also a lie - Omegon.
"prove I'm dead" - Alpharius 999.M39
I didn’t die, that was alpharius who died not me
Did Rogal kill Alpharuis or did he kill Omegon. He definitely killed one of them but wich one. Was Alpharuis truly loyal or a true traitor. Was Omegon a true traitor or truly loyal. Was Alpharuis Omegon or was Omegon Alpharuis?
Omegon lived (the twin who was raised on Terra, the original Alpharius if you will). Since he was involved with at least one operation that aided the Loyalists I'm betting that Omegon (Terra raised) was the more loyal one and Alpharius was the more traitorous one.
Or is this also a lie?
@Carrot Slayer I also understood that the original Alpharuis swaped places with Omegon. I think it was done so That he could shadow controll his legion. I like the idea of og Alpharuis being a loyalist playing the part of the traitor, a renegade and letting some of his legion fall to choas sothat not even they know what's going on. I ultimately believe him to still be loyal but a bit of an extremist.
The author confirmed it was the og alpharius who died. Omegon, the primarch found last survived. I think it's much more interesting that way.
Bruh, I don't even know if Alpharious is dead, at this point, I can't even be sure there is a twenty-first primarch.
Given the fact that they, supposedly can transfer their identities to their gene sons, we just can't know. Hell, if there is an Omegon, he is probably the way he is because Alpharious messed with his mind or development during their gestation.
I don't know man, alpha legion.
Thx remembrancer for your excellent work 🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏👍💯💯❤️
BROTHA, you have done the Hydra a great honor with this rememberance. And thank you for some tidbits I hadnt heard surrounding the Head of the Hydra. Honor to you great Rememberancer.
Coolest chapter out of all. Read the book, treater his own soldiers as equals.
WOOOOO HOOOOO YES!!!!!!
NOW PUMP MY RUMP WITH THAT PRIMARCH SPUNK!!!!!
Bravo!
Excellent retelling of the complex fates of Alpharius Omegon and the 20th Legion. Alpharius himself never left Terra when the other Primarchs were scattered across the warp, and Horus must’ve always been in on the secret from early on. Granting Omegon an honorable discharge for their combined deeds. Interesting, that Alpharius was also lied-to by the Cabal, continuing the inversion theme as well.
Which places the Hydra in a similar category of the Dark Angels Fallen new lore.
The 1st & the 20th.
Hhmmmmm….
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I love how Dorn wasn’t truly mad at the tactics despite them being a near opposite in views he merely scolded him on “going too far” not his ways, Rogal wouldn’t bat an eye he’d just think it’s what was needed to be done.
can’t wait for the book where the alpha legion simultaneously resurrects the emperor and Horus just to kick off the heresy again and then watch it play out
Another epic video my friend.
Dorn killed Omegon, the traitor, not Alpharius who was a secret loyalist.
Big E: ...Alpharius, what are you doing?
Alpharius:....nothing.
Big E: Son, quite trying to hide your brother -__- I counted the gestation capsules.
Alpharius:...I don't know what you're on about.
Alpharius can't be dead. I am Alpharius.
I honestly think Alpharius just rolls a dice every once in a while to decide if he's gonna be loyal to the Big E or not
Fantastic, well done
Perhaps the true Alpharius are the friends we made along the way...
How many Alphariuses are on this vox channel anyways?
What a handsome baldy Alpharius is
I want to know what they did to that Ork wagh to make the whole xenos crusade run in terror. I think it was a White Scars HH novel. Possibly it was in Path of Heaven. The Alpha legion said "Relax, we'll handle this just picket the outside of the system." and shortly after the whole waagh fled in terror. What did they do to those orks I wonder lol. Cheers m8. Great vid.
"How can you figure out my plans when I can't even figure out my plans!"
Sad primarch is over but all the videos of the primarks were truly a masterpiece my g can't wait to see what the future holds 🤌🤌
I truly believe Alpharius was a traitor, but his brother was not. I hope we get illumination from a novel soon. Omegon lives.
I want Omegon to be the actual one found first but the Emps just didn't realize it lmao
The more lore I learn about Alpha Legion, the less I feel I know.
Al is not dead, Dorn killed his clone, the Twins are alive.
If the alpharius book is to be believed, Alpharius still lives. And that Malcador is scary as fuck.
I actually have two theories about the Alpha legion, first is that actually everyone in the legion is a primarch and if one of the twin primarchs die then they are sort of reborn in one of their sons, it would go a long way to explain their whole i am alpharius game. It would also explain why the Emperor tried to keep it all a secret and constantly developed their geneseed, instead of having most of the power of the legion in one person he made sure the primarch could never die and all the astartes in the legion could become the primarch, like some weird body switch technique, i also think that Alpharius was meant to be the most powerful of the primarchs but the ruinous powers had to split him during the scattering
Second, i acually think they are loyalist, just play this long shadow-war game for the greater good, like he said "we are not shortsighted like my brothers"
I like this because body swap and never dying is very hydra heads regenerating, thematically. Very good theory.
@@Rinzler86 thanks, now think about the fact that the Alpha legion primarch was split, instead of them all being godlike marines they all are just regular marines, instead of them all being almost primarch level, it would make sense since their geneseed is taken from one half of a primarch, and that is why the geneseed is damaged and the legion does not have the full potential it was supposed to have, it would be really emperor-like, i mean we saw this before with the thunderwarriors, he just wanted to upgrade the model maybe, and a legion full of primarch level marines where their primarch cant die, well....
They will never listen to alpharius , but would rather walk into the arms of chaos and drive alpharius to join them
Amazing video and love the way the Alpha Legion conducts war.
I am Alpharius.
It also wasn’t really mentioned the alpha legion has a lot of mortal operatives who the legion were actually pretty loyal to if it didn’t jeopardize the mission
I am alpharius, and this is a lie. Hydra dominatus
FINALLY FINISHED ALL THE PRIMARCH VIDEOS.
Forever alpha. We shall have more alpha videos. We shall embrace alpha. 🐍 More alpha. . ( trance music) more alpha lol
Congratulations on hitting the funny number for subs! Well earned
Right off the bat, one of them dunks on the golden bois.
Hydra Dominatus.
The hydra has three heads and yet we think alpharius and omeagon are the only two primarchs...
My personal theory on this is the first head represents Alpharius, the second represents Omegon, and the third represents the Alpha Legion.
I'm telling you, there is a 3rd primarch or my name is Alpharius. Or is it Omegon?
@@LegendStormcrow this is a lie
Hydra Dominatus!
"Why pick a side when you can play all of them?"_Alpharius (probably)
I looove alphalegion!! I think that al is the
best legion from the traitor side! Nice vid brother!!🙌💀😈☠️✌️🇫🇮
Or are they loyalists? If they are loyalists, does that make them traitors to the traitors?
The best lie has a kernel of truth to it.
This is a lie.
They are traitors anyway! Or are they?? This is why i like A.L.! You never no..
The Alpha Legion is SO loyal; they betrayed the Emperor!
I bet Alpharius/Omegon is a Tyler Durden type situation......
The two lost Primarchs are just Omegon and another Alpharius. the 3rd Alpharius is the 3rd head of the hydra. This is the truth the Ordo Redactus doesn't want you to know.