DIY Fightstick Case Buyers Guide

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  • @Baqsam
    @Baqsam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    *_Such_*_ a sport for showcasing others' products!_

  • @walterlsan
    @walterlsan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2ND Impact brought to Brazilian players the quality in arcadestick and pieces that we had to look for abroad.

  • @DJackson747
    @DJackson747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, I was thinking about building a stick/hitbox from the ground up for the first time as a fun personal project for me and this vid happens to show up in my feed.
    Destiny.

  • @raymondchan3692
    @raymondchan3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great resource. Awesome that you're supporting other DIY enclosure makers out there!

  • @Fajah69
    @Fajah69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like wooden chassis, it actually sounds good pounding on it just like a finely tuned guitar.

  • @greenhillmario
    @greenhillmario 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man I’m glad this came up in my recs, been thinking of building a hitbox styled controller and this seems like a better place to start than going full diy-ing and enclosure with tools I’d have to buy for 1 use. Thanks man!

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      focusattack.com/fightsticks-pads/popular-brands/bnb-fightstick/ link to my BnB enclosure, the “All Button” layout is the equivalent to a Hitbox.

  • @austinwhetstone8189
    @austinwhetstone8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pouring one out for Tek Innovations. The TI Series B case was the first DIY case I bought, and it's what started the hobby for me.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed! Also JasensCustoms just closed up shop =(

    • @ChexGuy
      @ChexGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was lucky enough to be able to order one around October last year. Immediately after shipping, Art Hong put out the shutdown notice. ):
      I don't think anyone else has the level of customization the Tek Case builder did with regards to auxiliary buttons.

    • @wurlbfree1981
      @wurlbfree1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonyfraze that one hurt made a purchase a week b4 he closed

    • @linuxviking
      @linuxviking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still one of my favorite sticks.

  • @mbe102
    @mbe102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, I'm liking Foe Hammer's stuff! The look of it, still going through what I should get for my first arcade stick build.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Better move quick if you want a foehammer, they announced they are closing soon.

  • @presicion25
    @presicion25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dealt with Laugh about 10 years back. Sold me some parts (Joystick and buttons) for a Korean Candy Cab I had (Crowin Case 203). Really nice guy and shipped me the parts pretty quickly. I believe this was back when he had just started Etokki or right before the site launched.

  • @acustom6613
    @acustom6613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Having hard time dealing with the Facebook companies... any self respecting organization should have proper web site with price list and models.

    • @Raichu_Zed
      @Raichu_Zed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      To be fair some people do not want to brand themself as a company if they're just doing themself. Using social media is a good way to just take the few custom orders you do yourself.

  • @miaouew
    @miaouew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just ordered a korean noir BNB clear stick kit this morning for the new Knee Neo with the capsule top and some really pretty translucent red CROWN buttons, can't wait to get it and put everything together I am extremely excited! love the look of the BNB cases!

  • @mirthumos
    @mirthumos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got the Bnb case. Can't wait to built it.

  • @Khinh-xq6lx
    @Khinh-xq6lx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the some of the links work, they are the magician of the cases

  • @SomosAmnesia
    @SomosAmnesia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saludos desde España aquí Rafa de Satsui Custom Sticks, Thanks for the detail of including us, we can't be more proud. You made me the day 😘😘

  • @jonyfraze
    @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'll be adding additional vendors to the video description, if there's a company you would like me to consider, please leave a comment..

    • @MetaSynForYourSoul
      @MetaSynForYourSoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man I got an idea for custom stick but got no idea if anyone can build it. So when I saw the Cross-Up, I knew I wanted something like that, joystick with d pad capabilities as well, but on the Cross-Up, the direction buttons are on the right. I want them on the left so my thought is a joystick with Mixbox style awsd controls, that way there's enough room for em as, with the way they're spread out to fit the natural curve of the hand, there just would not be for a Hit-Box style button layout. Do you know anyone that could build this?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve seen AFS do similar layouts, hit them up

    • @MetaSynForYourSoul
      @MetaSynForYourSoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonyfraze thank you brother!

  • @DudeMcAwesome
    @DudeMcAwesome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those BNB Blank Cases look really good!

  • @keyserxx
    @keyserxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm looking at getting my first 'does everything' stick for MiSTer, loads of really nice ones out there, information overload lol, I like Eternal Rivals, thanks for the list

  • @chriskeepit100
    @chriskeepit100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy is guide,thanks,new sub.really hard to find arcade sticks without the curved button layout which I fkn hate,also hate ball top sticks

  • @isunshin999
    @isunshin999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't even play fighting games, and this was super interesting! Best of luck with your custom products man, looks great.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it.

    • @isunshin999
      @isunshin999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonyfraze For sure. So I'm dating myself, but last time I played fighting games was in the mid 90s with SF2, MK, and KI. Which modern fighting game would be a good one to start with?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I grew up in that era as well. I’m a sf player but Try tekken 7, KI (2013), or even GranBlue Fantasy

  • @aidanmccarthy9249
    @aidanmccarthy9249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can't go wrong with Foe Hammer Shop. I have that DIY one Focus Attack sold 8 years ago and one of their Stealth ones painted in a metallic black. Both top notch.

  • @vinnysob6380
    @vinnysob6380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I built an Eternal Rivals Vegeta stick, which is now in their gallery. It is a nice, lightweight enclosure and the customer service is great, including getting your art squared away. I also built two AFS sticks, 14" and 18". They weigh a ton, but i like it. The massive, ultra heavy 18" enclosure is my favorite. It allows you to play more aggressively, no joke. It feels like you are playing on an arcade cab. Not good for lugging around. I don't think you can go wrong with any of these. Again, great video.

  • @RetroPillowcase
    @RetroPillowcase 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I recommend eternal rival for a budget build

    • @wurlbfree1981
      @wurlbfree1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that was my first case and my reason was cases almost ended more than the pcb and buttons most cases yikes

    • @totallycarbon2106
      @totallycarbon2106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly the shipping costs more the case outside the US :(

  • @itsmekaaa9635
    @itsmekaaa9635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got the BNB! Working on adding leds and a kaimana kit.

    • @linelinelinelinep440
      @linelinelinelinep440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      got tired waiting for kaimana to come back in stock; gonna roll my own pcb with an atmega

    • @itsmekaaa9635
      @itsmekaaa9635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@linelinelinelinep440 it's back in stock (as of 07/01/2020)

    • @linelinelinelinep440
      @linelinelinelinep440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@itsmekaaa9635 cool! i may just do my own thing anyway, kaimana has a couple limitations i wasnt initially aware of. would be cool to add kaimana code to a brook board and just output led data directly off an extra pin but i dont see that happening
      having it be a separate board prevents any input lag issues it would possibly have anyway

  • @CrestofPotential
    @CrestofPotential 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used a PAS Excellence Model T for my fight stick and I love it for the most part. There's a couple things I'm not crazy about, but the stick works and looks good and that what matters most to me

  • @R4F1K33
    @R4F1K33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm from Brazil 🇧🇷 I have 2 arcade stick by 2nd is amazing control and you can customize.

  • @keithwood2416
    @keithwood2416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Alice artwork is sick Jon!

  • @uxarcangel1506
    @uxarcangel1506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice video and good guide, i hope if you can next videos to talk about rubber foot or similar options for fighsticks and where is possible to buy someones.

  • @pdcsky
    @pdcsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big fan of your BNB
    friend of mine showed me his and I immediately blown away then I bought my own.
    I just love how light it all is.
    Its bloody amazing!
    I added in a couple of extras
    Bought some cable holders to swing the cable around like the victrix has
    Added rubber padding at the bottom inspired by the TE2+
    What would I change/add?
    Somewhere to add a leather handle to carry it around
    Place store the EX groove when I detach it
    Touchpad PS4 touchpad interface (if such a thing exists)
    I don't know if this is possible though but its just something I'm actively looking for.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s awesome, thanks for the support

  • @TheRealJPhillips
    @TheRealJPhillips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems like the majority of the DIY joystick industry has something against manufacturing cases that fit American HAPP or IL style joysticks. Everything is made with Asian style sticks in mind. That's why I'm glad I got my Xarcade Solo Stick that I modded out. I actually have 2 of them now.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hear ya, I grew up in the 90s and played on HAPP/IL parts in arcades myself. Unfortunately American style parts started phasing out during the sf4 era where Japanese vewlix style cases became popular. But stay tuned, some of my colleagues are working some some solutions for your concerns.. 😉

    • @TheRealJPhillips
      @TheRealJPhillips 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonyfraze 🤙🏾💯

  • @Movie_Games
    @Movie_Games ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cannot find anyone that sells the cases without holes drilled. I want to drill them myself so I can separate movement and action buttons more and add a right thumb button

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s because most people just want to a case that’s ready to populate. However I offer a custom layout service on my 4TW cases. jonyfraze.bigcartel.com/category/4tw

  • @prhyme27
    @prhyme27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some real good options presented here. I'd be interested to know which of these makers get down with weird/specific customization requests.
    When making my boombox fightstick I had some very specific needs. A BNB fightstick case was actually my first choice, but you (jony) told me you couldn't do what I wanted and instead pointed me to AFS. They were able to fill my request, and everything came out great. It wasn't an easy task for myself or AFS, but the end result is something I'm very proud of.
    I've got another goofy custom idea, and I'm not sure what case to run with. I know AFS can pull off what I want, but I like to try something new/different with each build and wouldn't mind giving one of these other builders a shot. Also it may just be me and my love for bigger cases (I bought the 18" case), but I feel like the metal cases are a bit on the heavier side than acrylic ones.
    Do you happen to know if any of these other builders can add extra holes and/or cutouts to their cases, or would it be best to just contact each builder directly?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anything custom should be discussed with the makers first.

    • @ehvaandal
      @ehvaandal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hit up allfightsticks discord, they get really specific request there

  • @MarcosBay_
    @MarcosBay_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man i live in Brazil, and 2nd Impact has really good controllers.

    • @eloiferreira7500
      @eloiferreira7500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2nd impact and soul power custons ❤

  • @olieebur
    @olieebur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was thinking about doing a third custom. Thanks for this!

  • @ssj5ssj640
    @ssj5ssj640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks man, good thing your getting ahead of your game. iam going to make my own stick controller. iam using keyboard to play street fighter 5 on my gaming pc on steam. i will be fixing my connection issue soon, might need new router.

  • @naterumph2158
    @naterumph2158 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's a guy in New Zealand called acrycade, he does awesome acrylic cases.. probably the best I have seen for the region... Are you aware of anything else in Australia/New Zealand?

  • @jonniefast
    @jonniefast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the upload
    i wanted a nice clearcase & average joe looks great!

  • @M4TTYN
    @M4TTYN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    knew bout most but foehammer and the international options real high quality international options!
    watched *hurtboxTV's* stuff to his video on his snackbox deff want one! got my eyes on a BNB stick for sure! to of course to rep the weifu's to a weeb collage artwork!

  • @DidYouReadEULA
    @DidYouReadEULA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn! Wish I had seen your video and work before I bought an X-Arcade Tankstick. OK but bigger than I wanted and no customer support. I just knew newer innovation was out there but couldn't find it. Wish someone would think of us Virtual Pinball players who want a good stick with side buttons and a nice trackball.

  • @JavieroRosario
    @JavieroRosario 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome content! I didnt know about a couple of these so great stuff!

  • @shocknawe
    @shocknawe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2nd Impact has a product catalog on FB.
    PS: really mate? You said you would buy from blokes in the UK, Spain, and TURKEY, but you said Brazil is too far...? I don't get it hahahah
    Cheers. Still love yer channel though.

  • @By_the_gods
    @By_the_gods 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Almost Every single one of those stores are sold out of all of thier fighstick enclosures with the exception of the BnBs at Focus Attack.

  • @LittleSaint425
    @LittleSaint425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank for all the information. It really help me decided

  • @ASquidWithC4
    @ASquidWithC4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a really dope video

  • @Xenohaste
    @Xenohaste ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not sure if this going to be seen or not but what if I wanted the case to have a custom shape or to mod the pre existing design of a case how much extra do you think that would end up being?

  • @Massproduce201
    @Massproduce201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any recommendations on a strong sturdy case that can accommodate a Happ/IL joystick? 🙏

  • @gcavrubio
    @gcavrubio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanted to purchase a controller by 2nd Impact so much. Unfortunately, they don't export their products.

  • @zachteding9970
    @zachteding9970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    just made a vid making my first fight stick with buttercade case

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ah man congrats! Tag us on some
      Photos on social media @jonyfraze & @butteroj

    • @ericlazalde7814
      @ericlazalde7814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That video was sick!!

  • @chrischand5082
    @chrischand5082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an excellent video, all the good websites, thankyou, ecellent work

  • @greggomes3D
    @greggomes3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome vid thanks for the list

  • @diedrichg
    @diedrichg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got into emulation over a year ago. I've decided I want a fightstick but I also want it with a 2.25" trackball. I can't find a single retailer with such a combination except for the Atari Fight Stick. Why is that? Would you suggest one of these custom DIYers who could design such a box?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the fightstick market is geared towards competitive fighting games, not retro.

  • @buttersleopaldstoch5793
    @buttersleopaldstoch5793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much

  • @filiptyszkowski1431
    @filiptyszkowski1431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks you 👍

  • @Adrian_Franco
    @Adrian_Franco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro ty for this

  • @krrmnl
    @krrmnl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vetash Model 5, he also print the art in the acrilyc for extra

  • @macgezzey
    @macgezzey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    dont forget about B15 SDM Designs their shit is custom to the max

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s no longer in business unfortunately

  • @guilladogui8259
    @guilladogui8259 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do we know which enclosure can be compatible with Korean levers ?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Usually Korean levers require at least 1.75” height.

  • @apaleguy
    @apaleguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there any custom chassis's that are easy to Mod like rather than taking off all the screws and flipping it over? I know the Panthera and some Madcatz do it but I can't find any empty chassis for those specifically.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      paradisearcadeshop.com/collections/hardware/products/excellence-arcade-stick-herculis-white

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also ArcadeStick Indonesia VS Case does as well.

  • @zivsahar
    @zivsahar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TY

  • @strykerking
    @strykerking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I built a stick preciously into a metal case, and its neat but a little bit heavy for certain uses. Which of these sticks would be the most light weight option?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any of the acrylic ones really

  • @oldboy65637
    @oldboy65637 ปีที่แล้ว

    what would you recommend for a layout where the lever and buttons are not super close together? that's what i dont like about the obsidian or most entry level fightsticks

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a “Vewlix Extended” layout for my 4TW cases. jonyfraze.bigcartel.com/category/4tw

  • @asteroidmonger
    @asteroidmonger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many awesome products, but all of them out of stock. What happened??

  • @danilo81rodrigues
    @danilo81rodrigues 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2ND Impact,. The best

  • @Khinh-xq6lx
    @Khinh-xq6lx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the omni case is the inspired by street figter x tekken case

    • @Blustride
      @Blustride ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both were inspired by the Virtua Stick High Grade. I think there’s a video out there where Markman describes showing up to a convention with the then-new Versus stick at the same time as the Omni was revealed, and having a laugh about how they both copied the same stick

  • @s3np411
    @s3np411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like more space between the stick and the buttons like the dreamcast stick. Who do you recommend?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anything with a Noir layout or sega 2p offers more space

    • @s3np411
      @s3np411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonyfraze oh man thank you so much. One last thing, I got the brook retro board but can't find anyone selling wire harnesses for the turbo, led, or 3 position switch connections. Where can I get those?

  • @Mrblackgoldfish
    @Mrblackgoldfish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna see a Southpaw custom Arcadestick/HitBox?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My BnBs can be made southpaw.

  • @madmalkav6540
    @madmalkav6540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only Allfightsticks have cases for IL parts?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look out for something coming from layershift / Junkfood. Arcade

  • @Cambaer84
    @Cambaer84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey just getting into modding sticks and building I have a mad catz TE one I needing metal panel replacement or do I have one or could I use plexiglass or something would like to finish it. Thanks

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t believe people are still making replacements panels for the TE anymore. But you can do some artwork and cover it with a plexi cover.

  • @LittleSaint425
    @LittleSaint425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm planning to get the mayflash F500 fightstick. Does anyone know what are the best mod stuff I can do with it?

    • @Clos93
      @Clos93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Swap out the buttons and joystick pretty much. If it's the version with a plexi you could add custom artwork easily. If not, there is plenty of sites than can do decal wraps for the 8bit do/Mayflash sticks.

  • @CMON75
    @CMON75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Warning on Marvelous Customs: they only cut and fab on weekends, and with C-19 and all they're backed up. Been waiting for my order for over a month now, still waiting for a shipping notice.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      COVIDs been tough on everyone including me. Keep in mind that many makers do this as a side business. There’s certain parts of my business that are delayed as well due to manufacturing issues. Knowing Marvelous, I know they’re doing all they can to fulfill your order as quickly as they can.

  • @rj5485
    @rj5485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SICK!! Thanks Jony!!!

  • @jlturbos29
    @jlturbos29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    make you one arcade stick with "industrias lorenzo" materials????

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love IL but their parts are not as easy to get in my region’s online parts stores. Also I do not get too many requests to use them nowadays.

  • @ssj5ssj640
    @ssj5ssj640 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jonyfraze i need your help. is there a good right hand stick fightstick brand company that you can reccomend that has the stick on the right side? also it has to be compatible with Steam version of street fighter 5 for my gaming pc. help iam bringing some really good competition. havent played for 6 years, planning to get back in the game

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Espada cases can be flipped so they are opposite for lefty’s.

  • @Adalwolf17
    @Adalwolf17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they still offered the snack box......

  • @luizguilhermesouzadasilva4989
    @luizguilhermesouzadasilva4989 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am brazilian. I have a 2nd impact control, is very nice. (I dont speak inglish kkkk)

  • @ocean2zx
    @ocean2zx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it easy to build your own arcadestick? Where would u wanna start at? Any pointers?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s much easier than you think. Join our discord we can help you: discord.gg/Ztf9DhM

  • @MassaoJapaNice
    @MassaoJapaNice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2nd Impact the best brazilian brand!

  • @RedRanger2001
    @RedRanger2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AllFightSticks is the only one with the Mortal Kombat layout... C'mon, fightstick case sites... Make a Mortal Kombat layout...

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hate to say it (as a old school mk player myself) the demand just isn’t there at the moment for some makers including myself, and the newer MK games and players have all migrated to playing on pad.

  • @jnut9494
    @jnut9494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Dude can I commission you for my dream stick? I suck at building and I've been a controller user my whole life so I really wanna get into fight sticks with art of me and my mains in other fighting games ill wait if you replay and accept thank you if You deny I understand.

  • @BIGGBAGA
    @BIGGBAGA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    B15 > all , too bad he no longer builds

  • @dz.audiovisual
    @dz.audiovisual 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    most of these are not cheap yo!