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- King K. Rool was rated extremely favorably during the early days of the game, owing to his unique arsenal of tools and properties never before seen on a heavyweight fighter. In the present day however he's considered one of the worst heavyweights in the game. What happened? Today we'll find out in Why NO ONE Plays: King. K Rool.
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Let it be known however that if Gangplank Galleon is set to play as the stage music K. Rool players become unstoppable
Fire theme
This also applies to Crocodile Cacophony and Snakey Chantey
@@ShadowNite1105Crocodile cacophony is the underrated banger
*Deep breath*
*TRUMPET*
Can confirm. I have never ONCE lost while that was playing
Over in the corner, you see Brent charging a down smash with malicious intent.
And if it'll miss, he'll DO IT AGAIN.
DO IT AGAIN
@@SoulHeartRS OH MY GOD DO IT AGAIN THE FUNNY MEME!
Word
@@D20thOfHisNameis this a reference to the niche youtuber, King of skill?
A good way to sum up K. Rool is he plays like a boss fight.
He’ll CRUSH you if you don’t know how to fight him but once you learn the patterns and all of his little tricks, he’s toast.
Came here to say the same thing. As a KRool main, I even *feel* like I’m a boss fight. But then someone who’s played the matchup a lot comes along and I feel like a boss fight… against a speed runner.
This is why I love his design so much. It's fitting of the character and makes him super fun to play, I love characters that feel like playable boss fights.
He's got mad power but his linear moves, blind points, and literal built-in weak spot all keep him in check (not to mention being able to use one of his tools again him, namely his crown). Despite this, I still like how he has notable techniques with the crown and blunderbuss to throw off opponents; especially how he can fake out some options with his blunderbuss, kind of like what he does in his boss fight in DKC2.
It's cause krools always play the same. Side B to Neutral B in neutral, land with nair, and down smash at ledge
@@rosestrohm7986 for some reason, no matter how good the player, crown into blunderbuss seems to work at least once per set
@@rosestrohm7986 To be fair the reason a lot of us King K Rool players repeat stuff like that is cause our other options pale so heavily in comparison.
Want to land with anything other than nair? Eat some heavy end lag or be extremely useless at actually landing
Want to use something other than his projectiles in neutral? Those have extremely high risks to them that K.Rool usually gets hard punished for using.
The only exception is at ledge, K.Rool players tend to prefer using bair, dtilt, and dair at ledge over downsmash because that move is suuuuper easy to punish.
Our problem and reason we all feel same-y is because, at least in a competitive environment, it just isn't worth the risk using moves that'll probably get us K.Oed
Honestly really happy that the Krool community is super chill and always trying to push the character further. Played him for almost 5 years now and hes still probably my favorite character in the game to this day.
Great video man :)
Knowing about all the weaknesses K Rool has it makes it more amazing how Kirby Kid has managed to do so well with the character 😊
This was my favourite character for four reasons.
1. I suck at combos
2.He's hard hitting
3.He's a heavy
4. He's satisfying to play
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I'd like to introduce you to King of Skill. Hes a K'rool main that managed to take his guy to top 100 of HB's online tourney.
Online lol.
@@Blizzard91 hes still worth watching
K Rool is the thinking man's heavy. At higher levels it's just mind games with all the crazy set ups and interactions he has. You know they know your weaknesses. How you mitigate them with crown slides, blunderbuss cancels and drift and good armor plays make the difference
A King who fights in a ship.
A Pirate who fights in an aircraft.
A Mad Scientist who fights in a castle.
I loved this villain.
I Never noticed that his outfit was kind of lagging behind his stage so-to-speak, that’s kinda funny. I gotta wonder if that’s intentional, since his first appearance doesn’t seem that weird, his second matches still matches the overall theme in the game and the last one also make sense as a Frankenstein reference
same
Not to mention he uses his propeller in the castle fight
Vars I regret to inform you that my tiny local has 3 King K. Rool mains
Man I wish it were like that here. But hey, at least I'm the best K Rool in my region... because I'm the only one lol
Based af players ngl
Ya gonna need to answer to king of skill for this one dawg.
I think I figured out how to fix heavies in smash: reduce the amount of hitstun they receive from attacks. If King K Rool received 80% of the hitstun that an average character received, he would be much harder to combo and his survivability would actually mean something.
That’s actually kind of interesting, it makes sense that a big thick boy wouldn’t be as dazed by an attack as a lil munchkin would be.
I'm sure that Hitstun is already reduced due to the knockback being lower. That being said, it seems it could be a good idea to make hitstun be affected by the square of weight+100 instead of proportional, or making the factor being dependant on only initial damage instead of total knockback.
That’s not a bad idea honestly
@@N12015 so you’re right that weight affects the hitstun calculation because it is a variable in the knockback calculation, and the knockback value is used to calculate hitstun. That being said, that ratio of hitstun to knockback is equivalent regardless of weight, which is what I think we’d like to change here. So currently a heavy will receive slightly less hitstun, but will also receive less knockback, meaning the other player doesn’t have to move as far to follow up. I think this is why in practice heavies are still combo food despite their weight having a small downward effect on hitstun, because between big hit boxes and lower knockback making it easier to follow up it doesn’t matter if they can act ever so slightly earlier. So to give them a little bit more of an edge in a thematic way, they should even less hitstun to simulate the way a big person can shrug off a hit.
Would be a fair suggestion ngl.
Also we need universal F3 airdodges imo
oh my god guys hes gonna do it again
for real tho the bane of online play, I've been playing a ton of k rool recently online and he's fun as hell, I can see why Brent plays him so much
Yeah, it's so satisfying to play
@@DrunkedOwly I love doing the same amount of damage shiek does in a 12 hit combo in one move
Well at least somebody brought Brent up here.
K. Rool's very fun ngl! You ain't wrong!
He’s a character you have to play against the character for. You can’t just be better. He has so many unique tools you absolutely need to know how to fight him or you will get fucked up
King k rool is a good definition of what I like to call the The Sentinel effect in the history of marvel vs capcom 3 sentinel was a beast in the high teir but then eventually everyone figured out how to defeat him
It's so weird. K. Rool feels like he should just be a top-tier.
That’s what I’m sayin
I agree
King K. Rool has come crazy setups and confirms that can be deadly if you understand how to play him. It just sucks that most of his combos means that he has to bait and punish, but if they don't take the bait, he's combo food instead. On top of that he doesn't have any multi-hit attacks, let alone combos that don't involve baiting and punishing.
If you ask me who has the best looking spike in the entire game K Rool's back air is the one without question despite being beaten by better characters with better mobility.
He's for me the most entertaining character of the game his clumsiness and strong presence I enjoy it.
Even Mario fair?
K. Rool's Back Air is my favorite spike in the whole series. I freaking love the spike. I also agree with him being entertaining af.
*inhale*
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@@tiqosc1809 That's a nice take as well Mario's spike is one my favorites too but K.Rool makes Mario run for his money heck they're similar both spike with one fist
I play King K Rool. Really appreciated this video, really loved every point put in the video. And yes, K Rool is criminally underrated. K Rool I do think has some decent matchups across the chart, more notably, K Rool does well against characters like Min Min and Diddy. Good video.
min min shits on k rool only thing he has going is the edge guarding and he cant really chuck out projectiles scince min min has a frame 8 reflector and diddy wins as soon as he pulls banana
One of those characters who was called "broken" at launch just for him to be a low tier later on
I personally dropped my old main of Meta Knight and decided to follow the meme hype of K Rool, and I’m glad I did. He’s brought me more wins and fun than Meta Knight could ever do. Do I struggle with him at times? Yeah, I do. But that’s where player and character knowledge comes into play. I like showing that I don’t need or want to play a top tier to win and have fun.
lmao i see 10 k rools everytime i hop on wifi
Him getting nerfed into the ground a few weeks after Ultimate was released did damage to his popularity too. He wasn't even top tier, but people just hated playing against him, so he got nerfed bad.
"Nerfed to the ground" is just very inaccurate. His D Throw change wasn't really a nerf, being better at high percent and worse at low. Neutral B not being able to be held for as long isn't great but also you can still hold the move for like an hour. Everything else changed in that patch were a non true "Infinite" that started working at 200% and is still somewhat doable and Up B hitbox being smaller. K Rool did not get nerfed to the ground, he honestly barely got nerfed at all. People just started to understand that the character is a scrub killer
I hear them, trumpets in the distance, the kingdom of skill is coming
The amount of times I've killed a K. rool with their own crown is genuinely depressing.
It’s so good against him.
@@bnsz8704As A K Rool main Yes yes it is
God damn it
More like confusing
Is it more times than you’ve been comboed off crown tho?
It's really an unnecessary weakness the character has that I wish they didn't implement. I still main the character none the less though
*Offended King of Skill noises*
Id love to see "Why No One Plays Mega Man" next. they're such a cool character with tons of tech and some of the sickest item combos in the game.
Mega man is not very good with combos.
Mega Man probably IS good with comboes, I just somehow dont know shit about him as a character, except for hearing that Metal Blade is appearently good? I kinda want this too.
Id like to clarify by saying Mega Man isn’t “good with combos”. He’s not built like Fox or Sheik or Greninja. What he does have is really flashy though. Metal blade sets up for footstools and drag downs and all the really technical stuff that Mega Man has.
@@AiriusDowns The biggest complaint I heard is Mega Man is so faithful to his boss fights that he does't reflect the feel of his levels, unlike Mario and Luigi. The fact that his neutral aerial is at the weakest in the game, doesn't help ether.
So mega man's play style is not easy to figure out and his a bit of a learning curve. Not helping matters is that no one likes to play on Dr Wily's Castle, because of the Yellow Devil.
He has shit combos and deals 10 dmg, video done
Honestly, if K Rool's crown would just make up its mind if it wants to be an item or a boomerang, he would instantly jump to C tier.
Finally I see someone say K. Rool’s real weaknesses as opposed to “he is a heavy”
Half of these moves have blindspots and god knows why. It’d be a nice risk rewards sorta thing for some of them but when they whiff for no reason and you eat 80% while sitting there like “damn this dude shoulda gotten hit bro”
Banger vid 🔥
I would love to see a why no one plays belmonts, in theory they seem like really good characters, solid ledge trapping, crazy disjoints on whip, cross is an amazing projectile etc.
Me and 2 others in my high school e sports team all play k rool. The other teams always get so confused thinking it’s all the same guy. We have only lost once and we shall make it to the very top with the funny crocodile no matter what. Crocodile supremacy baby! 🔥
One of the best villain ever :D
I’ve been wrecking jokers online with my kroc he’s way too fun to play
I main the croc, as well, and that match-up is surprisingly fun. The K Rool grab game is a great way to punish rebel guard and f-tilt armor through faster attacks often leaves them reeling.
Fr.
K.rool is the rare occasion for when the boss is the same when you unlock him as when you fought him.
"Heavyweights struggle to find any success"
I guess Rob must be light now
Definitely one of the most well designed characters in the game
100%
krool is one of the few heavies i can fight and not ever break a sweat on, his gameplan falls apart that much. Every single match ive lost to a krool it feel very justified because 90% of the time they were the better player.
King of skill
King k rool
Both have king in the name so its fitting
"I'm not mashing, I'm applying Pressure."
Ooh I get the reference 😂
King of Skill is lurking in the background of the comment section. I know it
I can feel it 😳
IT’S MY BOY!!!
For the first few months of ultimate's release, I played K Rool religiously. I'd beat my friends, and felt like I was doing pretty well.
Then my best friend picked up Young Link and I got subjected to what felt like the worst matchup in the history of matchups. It got so bad that I dropped the character altogether, and I haven't looked back since.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY REQUEST THIS VIDEO WAS AMZING
I can feel the Duck Hunt video getting closer
I don't play King. K., but I like fighting him and love seeing him, even when I'm losing and they are teabagging me, I just can't be mad at him, he's funny haha
Respect to K.rool mains though I know he's pretty difficult to make work a lot of the time 👑 🐊
Me and my friend both play K. Rool. He is a lot of fun.
He truly is
He needed two critical buffs to deal with the roster but never got them. K rools moves are more satisfying to hit than other characters for me and also trying to find setups
What are those buffs?
i think i agree with your assesment: K. Rool's main failing is that he has no "thow it out" move that he can spam when there's nothing better to do, closest thing he has for that is his up tilt, and even that one doesnt cover his back and is still quite laggy
*cries in king k-rool main*
unfortunately for my friends, they are not pros (neither am I but I know more about smash characters than them) so when I go K Rool, they lose HARD. Sooooo I play other characters to not just obliterate them. That said I play K Rool because dammit I'm not competitive, I'm sentimental, and Donkey Kong 64 was my childhood game and to have K Rool in was a gift from Sakurai.
Same.
My mains are most of thr villains (K. Rool, Ridley, Ganon, Dedede, Mewtwo, Dark Samus, etc), and while my favs to play of the bunch are decidedly low-tier, I still play them because I generally always liked the character since I was a kid. The fact that Ultimate has so many to choose from, especially bringing in K. Rool and Ridley after decades of requests, is still surreal.
Hopefully they all return whenever the next Smash comes around. Would love to see Porky or Eggman in mechs too.
Finally, a video essay to show to my friends on why I'm not the problem
😂
i was super excited to see king k rool be invited into smash, but i never thought i would main him (Banjo Kazooie too, but nothing clicked). Him and bowser are my most satisfying heavy mains. Watching this video, i would surely play him all the time again.
If I don't wrong K rool was one of my first mains when I started to play ultimate
The crocodile needs a buff if you ask me.
I freaking love playing K. Rool in Smash and remember the extreme hype from his trailer. I feel like he's one of the most fun and well designed characters in the entire game, crafted with so much heart and soul into the model, animations and humor that was well warranted for his return, playing pretty much almost 1:1 like his boss outings. But even with that factored in, he's sadly not a completely viable fighter with flaws even a few in his design itself to not win big as much as the top tiers (cringe) but that makes playing him more rewarding when you know how to play and get Ws as him despite that. Play who you want and don't let other's opinions stop you from your passion unless you geniunely want feel like it's better for you to, it's why I continue to play him to this day. If it weren't for K. Rool returning to Smash and the players still trying or joining to push him (based af) I would've never been as big into staying in the Smash community, which is already hell imo.
Offtopic, but we need him to return to DKC and other mainline DK games/the series itself.
I'm fanging for another DKC game.
The one and only thing you need to know as a King K Rool main: For the 10% of players that know how to kill you, half your moves are useless so rely on Nair, Titls, Bait Grab, Spike and Projectiles. Also if you're being ledge trapped, immediately recover to land on the stage from the sky although you'll take a mean hit but its better then losing a stock
Not in the slightest but whatever you think bro
I just lost a tournament in my school with K.rool and a day later this pops up in my feed
Let's go my main
K Rool is one of the rarest tournament characters, but one of the most common character online.
Did u forget dedede was pretty high tier in brawl
Wasn't that because he was broken?
@@N.i.E.M.Ohe had a pretty good chain grab but he wasn’t broken. but regardless, he was a heavy that was high tier.
Still a King K Rool main till this day! TILL THIS DAY!!!
The more I see the problems with heavies in smash the more I appreciate rivals of aether, and that doesn't mean that rivals heavies are better, it's just that the mechanics of the game give them an edge, for example there's this mechanic called Hit cancel (Wisely made a video talking about it if u want to see it) but what it does is that when u hit an opponent in the air u can fastfall immediately and avoid all the end lag of ur move, this would be amazing for Krool, it would be busted if Krool could hit u with an upair to immediately negate that second of endlag to go and continue with another aereal, but what makes it fair is that for u to be able to Hit cancel u need to HIT THE OPPONENT, so if u wiff and atack and fail there's still all the endlag of the move. What I'm trying to say with all this is that the heavies in smash have problems that on paper look so irrelevant that in fact are game changers, and these deterrents can be changed so easily that is basically a joke at this point
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Well…
DO IT AGAIN
SO much potential though
I think it'd be cool if you did Meta Knight next. He is a character that has a lot of good things on paper (recovery, edge guarding, combos, frame data, straightforward neutral, good specials, etc) but doesn't seem to have much representation.
What song is that in the background?
🐊
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This will help the algorithm.
I’d like to add that, with his projectiles and armor, K Rool has the best neutral game of any of the heavies. Although Incin comes close. K Rool is really happy to stay in neutral and trade stray hits.
K Rool only has the best neutral of the heavies because they don’t get tools to compensate and K rool’s neutral isn’t that great either
The King has lost his crown
I still wouldn’t agree that his weaknesses outnumber his strengths.
*King of Skill entered the chat*
In short: people learned the boss fight.
Poetry
I remember super early game people thought k rool was super good, then after like a year people agreed he was trash. A former pr player in my region who no longer competes actually predicted him being bad; after playing him in tournament early ult.
I was at a high school only tournament with Bruho in attendance and he only lost one game 💀
this is a stark contrast to my high school league where 1/5 people play k rool
It so funny to se King K rool in the why no one plays
Krool doesn't have the highest damaging throw(command grabs don't count), is olimar bthrow with blue and 3 Pikmins in grab
The reason like K Rool most is because he's a menace when we are both off the stage. This oversized leather purse can go to the bottom of the mf bastzone just to back air or Nair you and safely go back to the ledge. If he back throws you when you play a character with a bad recovery, you can kiss your stock goodbye.
Idk bout u guys but every single time I enter tournaments in my region it’s over ran by k rools plumbers and sword characters with the rare pikachus samus and palus
Simple solution…make tournaments for each weight class.
pichu please. Amazing video tho
Good old heavy syndrome, if ur in advantage state ur top tier, any other time you're bottoms 5
True, but I’d say that, with his projectiles and armor, K Rool has the best neutral game of any of the heavies. K Rool is really happy to stay in neutral and trade stray hits
@@docpepperclassictru tru you right
you should make a why no one/everyone plays diddy kong
K rool is surprising technical at high level.
He has alot of gimicks he can get u with. But ifbu are ready it kinda dont matter
Also villager video when?
I remember when everyone was hyping up king k rool at the beginning of smash. I used to main him at that time.
Our favorite Heavy Zoner
As a k rool main, the problem with him is that he’s essentially a one trick pony. Once you learn his gimmicks he doesn’t have much to do. I think nintendo should’ve reduced the end lag for a some of his attacks and he’d be better
I like how the comments are just full of K rool mains lol. Me included
Or for a certain masher too XD
And me!
brent where you at
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As a K Rool main I object
I love playing K. Rool and I would main him if you took away belly armor and his weight in exchange for not making him a heavy and big body. His moves just click with me so much. I will say that K. Rool is like Byleth in that he can punish a bad option very badly, but he’s also like Palutena in the fact that he has counterplay to borderline anything, it’s just up to the player to pick the right option at the right time. If you can, you lay waste to your opponent.
Indeed.
Krool not being a heavyweight is a really weird concept that I don't think would ever work cause canonically he's bigger and heavier than Donkey Kong who's been an established heavy weight since the beginning of smash.
Idk I just cannot see this massive, bulked up crocodile be anything other than a heavyweight
@@Omnirose I was thinking more along the lines of giving K. Rool's frame data and hitboxes to a smaller character. Like for example, if you stuck his moves onto Byleth and just changed a few animations for it to make sense. I didn't really explain that and I do agree K. Rool himself is and should be a heavy character.
K. Rool is def a heavyweight by design and canon size but I'd trade being a superheavyweight to being a mid-heavyweight for a little faster normals and smaller body/collision box. However, I personally think the belly armor should be kept bcz it makes related moves using it look less like copypastes, which are differentiated by it, esp Down Smash. His moves click with me so much too.
@@PrettyKoolCrocodile Least we have DK and Diddy!
As someone that mains mario and dr mario I can confirm that I've beat almost every K rool main I've seen online
Last time I played online he was picked almost every game. This was probably last year.
It takes skill no matter how low tier the character is
The true answer is nobody is cool enough, except for me
So Snake isn't in the heavy gang? Nor ROB I guess?
You get insta ban when you get in the top tier discussion I suppose
super heavyweight, meaning characters that weigh heavier than Sandbag (though some people include Kazuya who is just below Sandbag in weight)
You should start a “Why a NORMAL amount of people play” series