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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2023
- Following the monumental performance of Skyjay at Collision 2023 and Smash Ultimate Summit 6, I wanted to dedicate the next episode of Why NO ONE Plays to Incineroar!
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#SSBU #WhyNoOnePlays #Incineroar - เกม
What's so poetic about Incin is he is based on a heel wrestler, who are notorious for talking trash and taunting opponents throughout a match. This makes Incin's ability to tilt players so much more accurate, but if you keep a level head, play calmly, and make the right decisions, Incin doesn't stand a chance.
Do not. Get cheesed.
@@DrSwazz I will cheese you
SkyJay would like to have a word
Once you think you figured incin out that's when your in the most danger
@@LODphantom To a certain degree, it definitely is the case. Overconfidence in anything can lead to you doing worse, which in Smash can cost you sets.
Incineroar is the most “Don’t let it be you” character in the game
YESSIR
Skyjay's run at Summit perfectly encapsulates the character. He pulled off some crazy upsets and insane combos, but when he ran into Kurama, who wasn't afraid and flawlessly executed Mario's game plan, he had no answers either time.
Every time I see Kurama play I just wonder how he loses lol. He’s so optimal it’s ridiculous lmao.
@@DrSwazz He gets outplayed, it's that simple
Lui$ wasn’t afraid either, Kurama just played the MU very well
@@wailmoregd140 People also know the Palu MU way better than the Mario MU
@@Quackra I can see him getting blown up by Spargo at least
I play Incineroar BECAUSE he needs to go for these silly callouts. No matter what character I play, I always go for some dumb callout just because it's fun and I get bored if I don't. Of all the cast, Incineroar actively rewards this kind of playstyle and I freakin love it.
Also, I love SkyJay's disposition while playing competitive smash, all smiles and GGs. I can tell that he just loves the game, and does his best to not get caught up in the seriousness of the tournament. I aspire to be like him when I play.
I'm the kind of guy who plays Game & Watch just to land 9 hammers or, most often, die trying. It's just so much more fun
Same here! I don't play Incineroar but I play Marth. I significantly improved after I quit focusing on results and started focusing on having fun. My Marth is now SO. MUCH. BETTER. Like, every time I play Marth and then rewatch my matches, I go "people think he's inconsistent?" It sometimes seems like Marth's tippers were shadow-buffed.
I'm not trying to say I'll dominate any top player or anything. I'm just happy I'm finally good with my favorite Smash character.
Marth is definitely inconsistent against the smaller and faster characters
His skill ceiling is also way too high and his investment to benefit ratio not as big
Thats why no one plays him
They did buff marth a lot since release and marth is pretty good i would say once you play perfectly
But its just too hard to play marth perfectly all the time even after the buffs
Skyjay's attitude is, I think, the key to his success with the big cat. Watch some of his matches and you'll see he keeps his composure throughout but AT THE SAME TIME he still has an absolute blast playing, being all smiles and even occasionally posing like the Heel Pokemon itself. His positive perspective on the game and his balls-to-the-wall gameplay with Incineroar is the reason he's become my favorite pro Smash player to watch.
Yeah. Watching Skyyay made me more confident when being myself in tournament. I like to have a blast when I play, but in tournament I tend to get secluded and go "serious." I'm sure this was holding me back a ton, because I play so much better when I'm laughing and genuinely having a good time.
Hey now, we exist…
Not anymore. You main Roy now.
Too hard, Pythra main
Incin main? Aye mate!
Who said that?
I use to main him for a bit. But then he got three stocked twice in a esports match and I just dropped him and didn’t look back
One thing that’s interesting imo is that he’s kind of similar to luigi in the way people say that the counterplay is to get him offstage and edge-guard him, but nobody actually wants to go out there because of the threat of being reversaled by green missle or alolan whip
Im so happy skyjay is giving us incineroar mains a beacon of hope
We love skyjay
Wow. That "Emotional Damage meme" is the perfect way to describe Incineroar.
I find it funny yet fitting that Incineroar thrives off of fear because his Hidden Ability in the Pokémon games is “Intimidate.”
Props to the developers for making a Fire Pokémon that primarily doesn’t use fire so FIRE. 🔥
It also is funny that Incineroar is good in Pokemon for its ability with the support moves that it has, unlike with Smash where you have to play with thought to get the most damage or even take a stock by using your strong attack options.
This has got to be one of the cringiest comments I've ever seen on TH-cam
And the reason people don't like that cat in VGC.
What if he gave the foe a permanent debuff in their first stock haha
@@FeiFongWangNah, I’d say yours tops that.
The punch line at the end almost killed me LOL
shame it didn't
Some thing that incineroar has in his advantage is that he forces his opponent to change their playstyle. You can't just recklessly spam landing aerials on his shield because of revenge. His grab range and throw damage forces players to not shield as much as they normally would or they will get punished for what is normally a safe option. Due to his revenge mechanics, you need to grab a lot more than you might be comfortable with.
this character feels the closest to a traditonal fgc grappler, and that's why I like him
It's crazy how the pokemon aren't really popular in competitive smash. Though I see Incineroar quite a lot online now, thanks to Skyjay. Which is cool as I've mained him since day 1
Though he’s far more of a support character with intimidate and parting shit
@@jmurray1110 That's in pokemon not Smash.
@@Quackra that’s what I was talking about
@@jmurray1110 and your reply to comment is almost completely irrelevant to someone else's comment especially with the fact that this isn't a video on Gen 8 comp.
I always wanted a competitive Pokemon game but played like smash. There are 4 special attacks and 4 regular attacks, so it'd be a bit more than normal in Pokemon but I think it would print money for Nintendo
Incin makes me realize how old ultimate is already, because he is from generation 7 of pokemon, and they are now on generation 9. Where has the time gone?
The bread and butter combo for our favorite Cat.
Down Throw, Forward Air, Dash Attack, Side Special.
Works especially well as an opener to a game.
His mobility is terrible, yes. But, when played correctly. he can also pressure the opponent so effectively, that they are constantly trying to get away, but because of his specials, especially his side special, can reach them almost every time.
Getting a revenge boost will instill fear into any player, making them hesitant to approach you, taking advantage of this fear and adequate pressure can force them to make a mistake, mostly ending in their death.
Balanced character
Is that combo true? Do you fast fall after fair?
@@ishaan9265 yes, fast fall after fair.
It’s true for the first time with a little practice, but then you’ll have to switch to down-tilt fair or down-throw fair.
Or keep doing it if you’re crazy enough
As an incenaroar main from day 1, I don't really care about his disadvantages. I love his bait and punish playstyle and the fear he places on opponents. All u need is 1 good read per stock. Now I can't say I play at a level even close to skyjay but all my friends say the only reason I win is because I pick a top teir lol. They have no clue
Another Day 1? Respect.
Day one gang rise up
Day one main here as well.
also day one
Day one guys.
I lost it at "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !" and more generally the 'fear' segment
When I play Incineroar, my gameplan is wall out and bait with dashes, nair and fair, and then just going "You know what ? I'm doing that !" for thirty seconds. My opponent sometimes looks like they're screaming internally when I do that
Why Everyone/No One Plays: Simon and Ritcher
Castlevania games have always been hard, so the same thing can be said for the Belmonts in Smash.
"We just finished one of the most inconceivable runs in Smash Ultimates competitive history." On top of getting 5th at Summit.
I was waiting for this video. As an Incineroar main myself, there are several match ups that I absolutely hate and others that I love. Incineroar has dethroned Ganondorf as my main because he’s so much fun to play as. Hopefully he returns in the next smash, maybe even with a few tweaks to increase his viability. Great video.
A lot of people play Incineroar. Skyjay, 6 AM, Magisterial. I don't think this is entirely accurate but I will enjoy this video anyway lol
I started playing Incineroar only because you can't taunt online but he has taunts built into his kit. But he's so fun I never stopped
Fun fact: In competitive Pokémon Incineroar is one of the best Pokémon in the game with there being points where over 80% of players used Incineroar.
His kill threat is like Kazuya imo. Although Incin has no electric, getting hit once or twice literally sends you packing. He has combo game and has too many good tools. He almost feels privileged to me lol. Definitely a force to be reckoned with especially in a good players hands.
Skyjay is one of the most fun players I've ever watched in a tournament. His playstyle of going for high risk high reward reads, and creative uses of the character is so interesting and exciting to watch. He's literally like an anime protagonists, pulling off trump cards that you never thought was possible!! It's always fun and mind blowing to watch him do sick tricks and kills!! Love his sportsmanship!!
12:34 hey that fits Incineroar because one of its abilities in Pokemon is intimidate
Incin is very scary indeed
His high risk high reward playstyle is very fun to watch and play against/with
I’ve watched every episode of this series… yet Ive never played smash ultimate online even once, don’t play competitively, and haven’t turned it on since before all the dlc was released so don’t even have any dlc characters… yet I find these so interesting!
purple incin co-main here. we know he’s kinda bad. but he’s also really funny, and his combo of good frame data + explosive damage and kill power makes him extremely fun to play. also landing any revenge-boosted move floods my brain with serotonin. so that’s neat.
You're the best smash youtuber, great script, great editing, etc
I started SSBU playing with Incineroar and having a blast I was then bullied off of playing him by my Brother-in-law telling me he is a really bad character and to play someone better. I am finally going back to my roots as I have found myself frequently longing for the kitty-tastic power Incineroar provides and can't neglect the call of the cat anymore.
It's fitting to end this video with Skyjay's set vs Acola at Summit 6. That showed very well what happens when incineroar faces a character that doesn't have to approach him most of the time and has a kill power not that much lower than his.
I really enjoy watching your way no one/everyone plays series. It opens my eyes to a lot
Loved this one, great work! He's super fun to watch
I was waiting for this video! Great analysis, agreed on all points
An izaw smash and a vars 3 video in one day I think my depression is temporally cured
my friend is an incineroar main... we have played 1k matches +
i am still terrified of every single revenge he gains...
I've been maining incin for a good few years now, and it definitely takes a particular kind of mindset.
And I don't think I could've put it into better words than you did in this video. Make plays so psychotic that the enemy tilts out of fear. I'm gonna have to remember that one.
Skyjay says hi.
(I’d play him because he seems cool and I love cats, but man his recovery is stinky)
Honestly I think his recovery is very good given his archetype
Love these videos, keep it up
"Skyjay is on a rampage, this is the perfect moment!"
Thanks to you! Amazing video
Not only does Incineroar deal insane amounts of Smash Bros damage, he also deals tons of emotional damage.
Never played Ultimate, and finally got to try it out with my brother's friends who play regularly. First guy I tried was Incineroar and I havent found any character as fun yet. He's just such a blast to play and so satisfying
Ironic timing tournament wise
Hearing about how exhausting Incineroar must be to play, how he lacks a bread and butter, being such lousy physics...he sounds like Dedede in these respects. Cept Dedede doesn't have revenge sadly
The big difference tho is whereas Incin relies on fear to tilt the opponent, Dedede needs to troll the opponent into making mistakes XD loved this analysis
A friend of mine plays Incineroar, and I die so quickly sometimes. Granted, I play Joker, a bit of a lighter character, but it’s still crazy.
Also I just realized that out of me and the 4 other people I play Smash with, only one person plays a character that isn’t the subject of a “Why People Don’t Play” video (Joker and Incineroar were already mentioned, as well as Hero and Inkling)
Both Incineroar and robin both are so fun to play, they may have th weaknesses but they feel good when working right
Honestly super well said I think people sleep on him fear is a factor that is a bread and butter
I’m so happy you made a video on this. This describes the life of incin mains including me.
as a long time incin main, I fully agree with everything you said in this video
His frame data really is something else, he can box with the best of them, but other characters can keep him out the whole game if they play smart. I can't play him that well but he's always pretty fun to throw down with when your on another brawler.
Dude you gotta start adding the music used in the description, I wish I could listen to this on its own.
Recognised this song, had to bit a bit of brain digging but found it, and this remix eventually.
This is a remix of Pokemon Platinum's Distortion World by PokeRemixStudio
@@Nintendan95 I KNEW it sounded familiar! I love Pokeremixstudio's work, which honestly makes me all the more upset that it's going completely uncredited. Thank you for doing the research.
@@Werwa_ A man (or woman!) of culture I see!! Yeah PRS is a fucking classic! And yeah I deffo agree with the credit stuff, not just for credit where it's due but also for those times, literally like these, where you find a banger but can't see it listed in the description or video anywhere. I know that feel too well so when I come across comments like yours and I know roughly what the music is, I sometimes do a lil dig (I totally wanted to listen to it myself anyway haha)
2:52 I will say as an Incin player jab 1 is a good move to throw out as a check as its pretty fast and it’s hard to react to so if you hit a shield or just flat out hit then you can usually do jab 1 lariat or jab 1 alolan whip, you can mix it up with your jab 2 and 3 too to catch opponents off guard. It’s got a decent hitbox too so its definitely valuable in his kit even if it’s outclassed by down tilt in a lot of situations especially once you have revenge.
"I mentioned that Incineroar's attacks have good range but he's not a swordie."
_Ohoho, that's where you're wrong_
I main Incineroar in smash, but I kinda suck at the game. But he's still fun to play. I love how he acts like a wrestler and some of his moves resemble that.
I think incineroar is actually really good. Intimidate is a really good Ability, plus it get moved like fake out, parting shot, throat choop, and taunt, among other things, making it an incredibly valuable Swiss army knife of a pokemon.
*Wait wrong game-*
I love incineroar. Ever since my friend suggested me to try him as i like to play ganon since funny grabs and big punishes are my shit, i haven't looked back since.
Great content, keep up the good work!
Skyjay is a real beast, and a joy to watch.
Just a little side note for content precision:
Incineroar's tipper f-tilt is second only to Zelda's tipper f-tilt in kill power, actually. Mario dies ~4% earlier at the ledge with Zelda's f-tilt compared to Incineroar's!
Incineroar has been my main since ultimate came out, and assuming he's in the next game I dont see that changing. I just thought the fact he taunts after every move hilarious. So I started using him and got really good with him.
Sure, he doesnt have bread and butter, but my friends are like mid-level competitive, I dont need a gameplan, because honestly none of my friends have one either.
It feels like Icineroar is also part vortex where he tends to wait for that one big opening
Skyjay doesn’t even look a little bit stressed while playing
Great Video
Emotional damage caught me off guard 😂
Honestly all Incineroar needs is that one player that pushes him to the limit and i think Skyjay is that player.
One big problem with characters that are so slow like Incineroar is that they are forced to approach in a game that is very friendly to campy playstyles. Imagine having to chase Samus, Link or Sephiroth players across the entire map at that slow speed. That's the main aspect of this game that I honestly feel is not well balanced.
That's true.
Playing Incinoroar is kind of like playing Steve if he didn't have minecart and the ability to place blocks lol.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 Still, Steve is a trapper and has more tools to force others to approach him. Incineroar literally is alone vs the world. Him, Ganondorf and Dr. Mario, probably.
@@moviegametime3891 His main tool to force others to approach is blocks.
I think so many problems would be fixed if they brought back reflect parries like Melee
You have to outplay gravity to avoid dying. It's science.
We exist I tell ya WE DO EXIST!!!
Kinda like me in a way.
My entire team has constantly been saying that I apply so much pressure to my opponent’s that it breaks them.
One of my opponent’s in our team tournament quit for their entire team after one round against me.
I scared them all.
I was using Shulk and they were using Bowser.
I took them down to their last stock in under half a minute.
I still had three stocks and was only hit twice.
That puts fear onto a team if that was their strongest player.
Okay I don't know why I didn't expect the meme at the end but oh my gosh I did not and it was hilarious
Incinerator literally is the reason why I win alot of games
the skyjay in question
I'd HEAVILY beg to differ there's no way in hell Neutral Special is his worst special move over Up Special
For what I can add about Skyjay is that when I see him play with Incineroar I saw him happy, for me he really likes plays Incineroar and maybe that is the reason of why he is doing so well recently. Maybe sounds goofy, but enjoying the game could be a vital point for win or lose
8:24 this is the rampardos theorem
Well now I wanna play Incineroar
We do indeed exist. (I love this guy.)
How curious, while I started getting interested in playing as this big cat, everyone else was dropping her off.
I'd be really interested to know what the other scariest characters are in your opinion, in terms of tilting your opponent into making bad decisions.
I'm thinking it would be along the lines if Wario with waft and powered up Kazuya, but those are temporary so it's easier to deal with.
A character that can deal 100% in a single hit is always fun
It just sounds like nobody has fun when Incineroar is in a match
god, listening to you talk about what incin does to people makes me wanna pick ssb back up and start to game at it again.
I think that skyjay has been a huge catalyst for more competitive incins so they're not as obscure anymore
We made it boys
Skyjay is my hero. Incineroar all the way baby
After skyjays run I’m telling you everyone all the sudden has a pocket incineroar
Amazing
Best character.
Based character.
Main him till I die, which (because of my recovery) will be soon.
Like all Grapplers in fighters, they break your mental back rather than your real back.
*before or while breaking your real back. And your characters, too.
Incineroar my beloved
Darkest lariat is busted! Also what you have to do is read jumps with darkest lariat
Thanks to Skyjay more people in my region are picking up the funny cat which is bad for me who's mained the charecter since launch
you had me at emotional damage
At this point I consider Furry Bait Cat to be my pocket character
Slow in some spaces with a pretty terrible recovery but some of my favorite attacks and feels so powerful
I would love to see lucario in the next one, good stuff :)))
Shoutout to my favorite Incinroar player BullHall. Been on a tear ever since he picked up the character and always goes toe to toe with SHADIC
AS AN INCIN MAIN I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO YESSS. THANK YOU!
Incineroar is criminally underrated. Play more Incineroar
Jab has a niche use of being one of incin's few multi-hit moves, meaning it can be used as a mix-up sometimes, but nothing super special.