I’m an electrician in upstate NY and I purchased an e-Transit about 7 months ago. It is the midsized height, mid-sized length. It came with Continental tires, from Ford, which I was told was the standard tire they sell with. I predominantly do residential electric in a hilly hudson valley Ulster county area. I installed shelving and have quite a bit of tools, wire, material I keep in stock in van. With my equipment the van weighs about 8,200 lbs. Max GVWR is about 9,500 lbs. I generally baby the vehicle, and drive in normal mode 95% of the time. I also keep the 4 tires at their recommended air pressure. I’ve only filled once and they’ve kept their pressure. In only 6000 miles the rear tire treads are shot. Based on the warranty, I assumed they would replace them free, but continental only agreed to pay for 50% of new ones. What is your tire experience? I’m now researching what the best possible tires are for this vehicle. I cannot afford to buy 2 new tires every 6000 miles.
My rear wheel drive Mitsubishi i-MiEV EV also used rear tires fast. Try ECO mode, BUT ESPECIALLY SLOW DECELERATION WILL REDUCE REAR TIRE WEAR BECAUSE THE REAR TIRES ARE UNLOADED DURING BRAKING.
Excellent video. I'm currently involved in Battery Depletion testing on E-Transit at different ambient temperatures and payload weights. Can't beat a bit of "real world" usage data! 👍
We just ran another real world test yesterday. This time we were loaded down with our full service van build-out. It was 90°-95° yesterday and we were very surprised with the result. It's safe to say that Ford was very conservative with their mileage claims.
I was part of the ABB battery line build, installation and commissioning crew for KansasCity truck, always interesting to hear how effective the end product is after working on it so long.
Finally, a video that talks about the range. I mean it's already June and it took 6 months for someone to make a video about this? Do people not like the E Transit? Man, I love this vehicle. I would do anything to get my hands on one of these babies. Sure it's expensive than a gasoline, but it's electric. Electric vehicles are so much cheaper to maintain than gasoline in the long run. And this is the vehicle that I want to spend the next 10 plus years of my life with! I figure I'd spend $3000 + oil changes, etc... on gas every year driving a regular transit. That would mean $30,000?? That's insane. But with an electric, I'd spend a quarter of that easily... Obviously though electric is the choice but one issue I have about this is the range. Without range or battery life, I will not buy this vehicle. I'd rather buy a gasoline if I can only get 70 miles each day. That's stupid..
@@JeffMathias you theoretically can. But you'd be taking weight from the maximum limit it can hold. Which will also reduce the efficiency. And the cost to add enough to make a difference would be insane. If you added 10kw to the battery, you'd get 20 miles more range assuming 2.0 miles per kwh. But that will cost a ton.
Great honest review. Would have been nice if they had closer to 200 miles range Also, it’s a big roof. Too bad you couldn’t install solar just for a continuous trickle charge. I know it wouldn’t add much for mileage, but if it could cover HVAC and sundries🤔
The roof is big enough to fit enough solar panels to power a J1772 1400W or 2800W charger connected to a portable battery inverter power station. There are lots of options.
Very interesting real world test of an E-Transit van. Have to wonder what our father who was a plumber on both coasts for 45+ years would think of all electric plumbing trucks. Lots of his tools which we use today are fairly heavy that we use for Apt. maintaining work as well as at our thoroughbred farm we operate as well. Thanks for posting!
@@SmedleyPlumbing Yes! Indeed. We have switched over completely to BEV yard care tools, mower, trimmers, curb edgers even tillers. Easier to operate! Just hold safety lever, push button & you`re working. Faster , easier to use & the people leasing our bldg. like the quieter operations getting the work being done. We have even switched over to using an BEV chainsaw! Amazing how big of trees you can fell with one. It takes getting used to having no noise when felling a tree though!
One thing on that fully charge number on the standard wall outlet. The charge is quickest from 15-80% so it would take far less time than an entire weekend for that. 1-15% and 80-100% are the slowest charge times.
This is correct. However the dash will display when the charging is complete. So the dash is already doing the math for the slow beginning and ending charge times. The times we discussed in this video were the exact times that the dash told us. The dash is also been incredibly accurate to within 15 to 20 minutes of estimated charge time.
I'm sure the lifespan for brakes will be massively different with a fully loaded E-Transit, but we've had an electric Kia Soul in the family for almost 7 years and 115k miles without needing to replace the brake pads yet.
If you are smart and adjust your speed ahead of needing to brake, you only need mechanical brakes for emergencies, yellow lights turning red, bad drivers in front of you. Ive towed 2k lbs with a prius and only used regen braking, not a hilly area, but not dead flat either. Just say no to yo-yo
In 1977-8 I used a Tranny to service vending machines in the north of the UK. The average daily mileage was close to 150 with a visit to the depot once a week that exceeded 200. No time allowed for lengthy stops to keep to the timetable either.
You could but it would still have to plug in through the charging port. And you can't charge while the van is on. So it would be something you'd have to plug in when parked.
You may have lost some range due to the rain; the tires pushing the water on the road. You also have gained some range due to the slow traffic you experienced. Good video with valuable real world experience.
Fellow plumber here in Florida. Im curious to see how far the van will go once you load the van with all the plumbing tools because I really want to buy one
We measure fuel by (Mass or by Volume), we measure electricity by Hours x (fuel watts) = Watthours, whether or not it was made with a feul. I would like you to measure battery charge and use by Time only also. As a challenge, I challenge you to build a hydroelectric 12volt generator then amplify to 240v 14-50 plug.
@@majorchungus I expect something similar on these. I'm seeing 135 miles of range on good weather days. So that puts us around 90 miles on those cold days.
@@majorchungus Ford has also allowed users to preheat the car and preheat the battery while on shore power. So that way the range is not diminished from the start. The range will still be effected throughout the drive as the heaters are running. But at least you aren't starting out in the hole.
If you live in the mountains and work say 20 miles down hill into town could you charge your electric vehicle with gravity for the trip back up the hill to home and rarely have to charge except for the different efficiency which would be what?
Hills are a give and take. Very poor miles per kWh going up but excellent mpk going down. Still better than a gas vehicle since going down a hill doesn't put gas back in the tank on the way down.
Thank you for the video. I am contemplating buying a low roof which claims 126 miles. I think that should be enough for my daily route. I’m wondering if I should carry a gas generator… Lol
Most every accessory that works for the standard gas Transit will also work for the EV version. So if you have a lift gate you like, you can most likely use it.
@@SmedleyPlumbing I saw the video with you showing it fully racked out and loaded. But didn’t watch the whole hour plus video. How quickly does it deplete the battery now that it’s loaded?
Highway driving will be the the least economical since aero drag is proportional to the square of your speed. You were also running in rain, which has a surprisingly high detrimental effect.
Answers a lot of questions. For me, having to wait 7 hours for another full charge is unacceptable. It's too limiting! What if I have to drive (my car) for work (I do)? 200 mile range = 3 hours driving. Then I have to get home from office. 😲 OR, I get home from the office after driving for 3 hours and .... I have to go to the grocery store, pick-up dry cleaning .... gotta go to the emergency room in the next city over! This technology still has a long way to go. I want to like it more! 20 minutes max, is all it should take to charge these things.
Range is about 135 miles, not 200. But even after that, it's not designed for over the road use. It's designed for in-town delivery and service driving with nightly recharging. It's not designed for travel or to replace your day-to-day vehicle.
Is there a substantial change in your electric bill each month charging that bad boy up? I’m not in the market or anything. Your video just popped up and it seemed interesting so I watched the whole thing. well done 👏
What are your normal miles driven when working? (From what you used to drive) I'd expect a fully loaded out van to do about 90 miles. City driving with stop/go traffic gets much more range than expected with regen, especially when in city traffic of 40 mph and less.
Nice video and I don’t mean to be crass but as a friend of mine who works at the nuclear power plant in Lake Wylie Sc told me. “What happens when all the folks buying these EVs come home at the same time and recharge. Brown out/black outs? At the end of the day it’s all fossil fuel’s baby” his exact words and trust me he’s no dummy.
How much reduced battery life is there when using Level 2 charging? Thst might be a deal killer if higher charging rates cook the batteries. I bet those batteries are not cheap.
Vans like this will be ideal for trades people whom operate with towns or cities, such as plumbers, electricians etc. These people don't tend to drive more than 100 miles or so per day..
I would like to see the projected range fully loaded maxed out see what the mileage range in the real world of using E transit as most vehicles will be fully loaded
I'm in South Florida and I have a property about 180 miles away and almost no public chargers between the two spots. Florida is hot and humid and I like driving with windows open. Maybe in 5 years.
City range is better than highway due to much less aero drag. Regen is only relatively better than an ice vehicle, but not as perfect as a steady 20-30mph. Ice vehicles only get relatively higher mpg on the highway because their large engines have so atrocious efficiency at low load/speed. Ev energy use is much more of a linear relationship with speed. Regen helps, but you get to put back to the wheels about 50% of what you lose when braking.
Once the batteries have been cycled a few times they should also give you about 5% more range. To do a realistic test you should throw a couple thousand pounds in the back.
Don't forget... your miles traveled when it was raining, leaving water on the road, created more rolling resistance, thereby cutting into your mileage. Rainy days cut down range... ICE cars too.
So many variables to account for.. Cargo Weight, Winds, Traffic, etc...So I would assume these should be able to go at least 100miles fully loaded. I still want a small gasoline engine to fall back on. As the grid goes down. You're not going anywhere.....See California rolling blackouts. You will get it then.....
@@SmedleyPlumbing I'm an Electrical engineer. I can tell you the National Grid is at risk. As they have not upgraded it in 70 years...As it's at 95% capacity right now. Why they installed smart meters in homes. They can shut your power off anytime they like. To prevent taking down the whole grid... And California is the worst. They buy their power from out of state. As they shut down all Power production. And replaced it with Wind Farms and Solar Panels. Which are failing all the time. So the United States will pay for their stupidity. They wasted time. money and resources on a pipe dream. Hell they spent $200 Billion on a train system. That does not even exist yet...
@@SmedleyPlumbing There is no fuel grid. We have a refinery problem. As Americans again in their stupidity shut all but two refineries down. That means the ability to not only refine fuels but store it. Is the issue. As America is so ignorant. they have no clue that refineries are at 97% capacity. ie no place to store it. And the reason the fuel prices are so high. The Central Banks have been borrowing the Federal Reserve Banks zero interest rates since 2008 housing crisis. To cover their $9 trillion in loses. They borrow that cheap money. Jack the cost of oil contracts up. Then once high enough. They sell them off. Pay back the Federal reserve and take their profits. Then do it all over again. Why the second I asked they raise margins on oil contracts to 35% and you must take delivery of the contracts.. They went crazy...As that would stop that horse shit.. You can thank Cox School of Business for that education. As I had no clue how it worked. Till I heard that...
Find it ironic that you`re having your grass cut with a noisy ICE mower! We have been using BEV mower & tools for 3 years now. Are able to mow 1/4 acre & bagging of grass with 1 charge on 80 Volt mower by Kobolt even with grass being wet or damp. Secret we found is once battery shows empty of charge you don`t stop to empty bag if can avoid doing so & then you will finish mowing job.Only once have we had to use a backup smaller battery to complete mowing. Eventually, we want to replace older ICE pickup with possibly this E-van as we don`t like crew cab pickups! We haul tools & materials not people! Wish a standard cab E-pickup was going to be made by someone.
I drive Amish an EV is not viable for the mileage and charge times. Need at least 300 miles fully loaded, (14 passengers and sometimes a trailer)and a charge time of under 10 minutes. Then there is a matter of charging stations. Rural areas very doubtful charging will ever be available.
Who buys a Transit to carry nothing? Your the 1st Plumber to drive an empty plumbing van😂 Even when my new van arrives, I instantly switch all my crap into it!! In 35 years of being a Service Plumber I have never driven an empty van🤣
Wow only 123 miles mixed use range from 100% to 0% with nothing in it? What a joke. The van is basically ewaste. Realistically you wouldn't charge it to 100% to protect the batteries. You wouldn't drain it to 0% either. If you only charged it to 90% and drained it to 20% you are looking at a meager 86 miles range if my math is right. I'm afraid to see how pathetic the range is when loaded down and/or in extreme temperatures. I'm sure it is perfectly fine for intown use though
I’m an electrician in upstate NY and I purchased an e-Transit about 7 months ago. It is the midsized height, mid-sized length. It came with Continental tires, from Ford, which I was told was the standard tire they sell with. I predominantly do residential electric in a hilly hudson valley Ulster county area. I installed shelving and have quite a bit of tools, wire, material I keep in stock in van. With my equipment the van weighs about 8,200 lbs. Max GVWR is about 9,500 lbs.
I generally baby the vehicle, and drive in normal mode 95% of the time. I also keep the 4 tires at their recommended air pressure. I’ve only filled once and they’ve kept their pressure. In only 6000 miles the rear tire treads are shot. Based on the warranty, I assumed they would replace them free, but continental only agreed to pay for 50% of new ones. What is your tire experience? I’m now researching what the best possible tires are for this vehicle. I cannot afford to buy 2 new tires every 6000 miles.
Yeah the factory tires do not last very long. Transit tires are tough to find in a high mileage tire.
@@SmedleyPlumbing Thanks for the quick reply!
My rear wheel drive Mitsubishi i-MiEV EV also used rear tires fast. Try ECO mode, BUT ESPECIALLY SLOW DECELERATION WILL REDUCE REAR TIRE WEAR BECAUSE THE REAR TIRES ARE UNLOADED DURING BRAKING.
Excellent video. I'm currently involved in Battery Depletion testing on E-Transit at different ambient temperatures and payload weights. Can't beat a bit of "real world" usage data! 👍
We just ran another real world test yesterday. This time we were loaded down with our full service van build-out. It was 90°-95° yesterday and we were very surprised with the result. It's safe to say that Ford was very conservative with their mileage claims.
@@SmedleyPlumbing how far did it go inthe end ?
@@allisterdavidson9805 124 miles when empty. We tested it two weeks later fully loaded and it went 136 miles using eco mode and L mode.
I’m in South Ga and really want to go Electric with service vehicles but it’s not uncommon to drive up to 200 miles a day for rural areas.
@@cscleghorn then this van is probably not for you.
I was part of the ABB battery line build, installation and commissioning crew for KansasCity truck, always interesting to hear how effective the end product is after working on it so long.
Thank you for your contributions! So far I am very pleased with the product.
Tell your boss to put more batteries in there..
Wow that's heavy rain. impressive driving for range . nice van
Thanks 👍
And btw…. Thank you for your excellent videos and all the time you given to them.
Glad you like them!
Finally, a video that talks about the range. I mean it's already June and it took 6 months for someone to make a video about this? Do people not like the E Transit? Man, I love this vehicle. I would do anything to get my hands on one of these babies. Sure it's expensive than a gasoline, but it's electric. Electric vehicles are so much cheaper to maintain than gasoline in the long run. And this is the vehicle that I want to spend the next 10 plus years of my life with! I figure I'd spend $3000 + oil changes, etc... on gas every year driving a regular transit. That would mean $30,000?? That's insane. But with an electric, I'd spend a quarter of that easily... Obviously though electric is the choice but one issue I have about this is the range. Without range or battery life, I will not buy this vehicle. I'd rather buy a gasoline if I can only get 70 miles each day. That's stupid..
Would adding capacity with a supplemental battery be a no go due to the extra weight?
@@JeffMathias you theoretically can. But you'd be taking weight from the maximum limit it can hold. Which will also reduce the efficiency. And the cost to add enough to make a difference would be insane. If you added 10kw to the battery, you'd get 20 miles more range assuming 2.0 miles per kwh. But that will cost a ton.
We agree!
Great honest review. Would have been nice if they had closer to 200 miles range
Also, it’s a big roof. Too bad you couldn’t install solar just for a continuous trickle charge. I know it wouldn’t add much for mileage, but if it could cover HVAC and sundries🤔
I'm waiting for around 250 real world mile range. Also for prices to go down. I likely won't buy until 2024.
Yeah the problem is most people don't drive 200 miles per day. So the manufacturers don't have a big push to get the range up that high.
The roof is big enough to fit enough solar panels to power a J1772 1400W or 2800W charger connected to a portable battery inverter power station. There are lots of options.
The best review for the E transit van that covers range, real range and max charging from normal wall outlet and a level two charger.
Thanks!
Very interesting real world test of an E-Transit van. Have to wonder what our father who was a plumber on both coasts for 45+ years would think of all electric plumbing trucks. Lots of his tools which we use today are fairly heavy that we use for Apt. maintaining work as well as at our thoroughbred farm we operate as well. Thanks for posting!
Electric tools and vehicles sure seem to be popular these days!
@@SmedleyPlumbing Yes! Indeed. We have switched over completely to BEV yard care tools, mower, trimmers, curb edgers even tillers. Easier to operate! Just hold safety lever, push button & you`re working. Faster , easier to use & the people leasing our bldg. like the quieter operations getting the work being done. We have even switched over to using an BEV chainsaw! Amazing how big of trees you can fell with one. It takes getting used to having no noise when felling a tree though!
Thanks for the review. I wont receive my E transit for another 2 weeks. Its good to have some real world numbers.
We'll record a fully loaded range test this week.
One thing on that fully charge number on the standard wall outlet. The charge is quickest from 15-80% so it would take far less time than an entire weekend for that. 1-15% and 80-100% are the slowest charge times.
This is correct. However the dash will display when the charging is complete. So the dash is already doing the math for the slow beginning and ending charge times. The times we discussed in this video were the exact times that the dash told us. The dash is also been incredibly accurate to within 15 to 20 minutes of estimated charge time.
I'm sure the lifespan for brakes will be massively different with a fully loaded E-Transit, but we've had an electric Kia Soul in the family for almost 7 years and 115k miles without needing to replace the brake pads yet.
That's one area I'm most excited for.
If you are smart and adjust your speed ahead of needing to brake, you only need mechanical brakes for emergencies, yellow lights turning red, bad drivers in front of you. Ive towed 2k lbs with a prius and only used regen braking, not a hilly area, but not dead flat either. Just say no to yo-yo
In 1977-8 I used a Tranny to service vending machines in the north of the UK. The average daily mileage was close to 150 with a visit to the depot once a week that exceeded 200.
No time allowed for lengthy stops to keep to the timetable either.
A lot has changed since 1977. That was 45 years ago.
I wonder if you could add a roof top solar cell to add some charge to the battery as well?
You could but it would still have to plug in through the charging port. And you can't charge while the van is on. So it would be something you'd have to plug in when parked.
You may have lost some range due to the rain; the tires pushing the water on the road. You also have gained some range due to the slow traffic you experienced. Good video with valuable real world experience.
Thanks man!
Peak range is at about 20-25mph in an ev or hybrid. Crawling at 5mph may be better than 70mph, not sure
@@rich.trails efficiency is definitely better at lower speeds than on the highway
Great educational video. Great editing. I’m looking into buying a E-van for business and you confirm it’s the right choice. Thanks 😎🇺🇸✌️
Thanks!
Fellow plumber here in Florida. Im curious to see how far the van will go once you load the van with all the plumbing tools because I really want to buy one
Follow along because we're going to film the fully loaded range test this week. We'll even weigh the van once loaded to see what our setup weighs.
One thing to consider.
The difference won't be as much compared to a gas van due to regenerative braking.
Your mass actually works in your favour!
I subscribed once I saw the mini toy van on the dash. 😂
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You're welcome!
Excellent video. Thanks for the information 😀
Thanks!
We measure fuel by (Mass or by Volume), we measure electricity by Hours x (fuel watts) = Watthours, whether or not it was made with a feul. I would like you to measure battery charge and use by Time only also. As a challenge, I challenge you to build a hydroelectric 12volt generator then amplify to 240v 14-50 plug.
Yeah, No thanks. You're more than welcome to do that though.
And are there any e-Transit forums that you would recommend?
Open Internet forums, I don't know. There are a few E-Transit groups on Facebook that have tons of great info.
Fuel savings should be about 75%. Repair savings about 50-75%. He should charge whenever at home or his shop. I always plug in when I can.
Indeed!
Fascinating video, thanks for that 👍. Just wondering what it's like after a year and maybe a ladder rack on top. Excellent viewing 👌
Ladder rack would definitely cut down on efficiency but you gotta do what you gotta do to make it work for you.
Atleast they are in the game now 👏
having a heater is part of real life. In Canada, I use the heater at least 6 months. In the dead of winter i use it full blast.
Yeah, we'll find out soon enough how much range it takes away. But it will be 90° here all week. So for now, we'll see how A/C affects things.
@@SmedleyPlumbing in my electric car, the heater takes about 33% of my range with the battery capacity reduced because it's cold.
@@majorchungus I expect something similar on these. I'm seeing 135 miles of range on good weather days. So that puts us around 90 miles on those cold days.
@@majorchungus Ford has also allowed users to preheat the car and preheat the battery while on shore power. So that way the range is not diminished from the start. The range will still be effected throughout the drive as the heaters are running. But at least you aren't starting out in the hole.
@@SmedleyPlumbing I charge with 110 volts 12 amp so preheating does little for me.
If you live in the mountains and work say 20 miles down hill into town could you charge your electric vehicle with gravity for the trip back up the hill to home and rarely have to charge except for the different efficiency which would be what?
Hills are a give and take. Very poor miles per kWh going up but excellent mpk going down. Still better than a gas vehicle since going down a hill doesn't put gas back in the tank on the way down.
Thank you for the video. I am contemplating buying a low roof which claims 126 miles. I think that should be enough for my daily route. I’m wondering if I should carry a gas generator… Lol
You can always stop at a public charging station if you get low.
From what I have seen people have tried it and after like a hour the only get 1 to 3 miles rande
@@charlesk46563 I wouldn’t bother with a 110 generator. If I did it I would use a 220 generator good for 30 mph…
I would like a test where this would be used with a full load of stuff like what trades people would have in weight
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Love the van but hay how was that lunch it looked yummy
If you're ever in the Kansas City area, check out Chartreuse Caboose on Metcalf in Overland Park, Kansas. Amazing food!
Where can I get a lift gate for the new E-350 EV?
Most every accessory that works for the standard gas Transit will also work for the EV version. So if you have a lift gate you like, you can most likely use it.
what if your solarpanel was the battery?
rollable mat pv day and night charging?
Solar panels don't produce near the output needed to run the vehicle.
Heavy tools and cold weather will reduce range. They should add a solar panel to the roof to increase range and reducing fuel cost.
We actually got better range after weighing the van down. Check out our channel for the fully loaded range video.
Do you have it fully loaded with its max cargo capacity?
Check our other videos. We recently posted one with the van fully decked out with our standard build-out for plumbing service.
@@SmedleyPlumbing I saw the video with you showing it fully racked out and loaded. But didn’t watch the whole hour plus video. How quickly does it deplete the battery now that it’s loaded?
@@PlumbRalph I guess you'll have to watch the video......😜
Highway driving will be the the least economical since aero drag is proportional to the square of your speed.
You were also running in rain, which has a surprisingly high detrimental effect.
Yes, slower is better for extended range.
can someone explain to me the point of doing a range test on a transorter without cargo???
Benchmark numbers to see how cargo affects range. Check out our other videos for the fully loaded range video.
Answers a lot of questions. For me, having to wait 7 hours for another full charge is unacceptable. It's too limiting! What if I have to drive (my car) for work (I do)? 200 mile range = 3 hours driving. Then I have to get home from office. 😲 OR, I get home from the office after driving for 3 hours and .... I have to go to the grocery store, pick-up dry cleaning .... gotta go to the emergency room in the next city over! This technology still has a long way to go. I want to like it more! 20 minutes max, is all it should take to charge these things.
Range is about 135 miles, not 200. But even after that, it's not designed for over the road use. It's designed for in-town delivery and service driving with nightly recharging. It's not designed for travel or to replace your day-to-day vehicle.
Well done 👍
Thank you 👍
I wish Ford would ask some of their Lightening team to update the etransit design with cargo power outlets, seems like the battery is underutilized.
They have that option. It's called the pro power pack. Provides 2 20-amp outlets in the cargo area and another outlet in the passenger seat.
Is there a substantial change in your electric bill each month charging that bad boy up? I’m not in the market or anything. Your video just popped up and it seemed interesting so I watched the whole thing. well done 👏
Costing me about $9-11/week to charge
@@SmedleyPlumbing wow that’s great. Thanks for the info! Good luck with the channel
Thanks for the video I was looking for real world results. I will ne trading in my old transit for the e transit.
We'll do another video very soon showing the range when it's loaded with several thousand pounds of shelving, material, and tools.
Great video!
Thanks! Stay tuned for more range videos once it's loaded down.
@@PodcastTheVoid what camera were you filming with? It looks really good! (I'm due for an upgrade soon)
@@ScottHD we are using a Sony A7iii. We love it!
Glad you enjoyed it
What are your normal miles driven when working? (From what you used to drive)
I'd expect a fully loaded out van to do about 90 miles.
City driving with stop/go traffic gets much more range than expected with regen, especially when in city traffic of 40 mph and less.
I'm seeing 135 miles when fully loaded and using L-mode. Check out our latest video.
@@SmedleyPlumbing wow totally awesome.
Nice video and I don’t mean to be crass but as a friend of mine who works at the nuclear power plant in Lake Wylie Sc told me. “What happens when all the folks buying these EVs come home at the same time and recharge. Brown out/black outs? At the end of the day it’s all fossil fuel’s baby” his exact words and trust me he’s no dummy.
That's the beauty of it. There won't be any time soon where everyone has an EV. Now is the time to capitalize on the savings.
How much reduced battery life is there when using Level 2 charging? Thst might be a deal killer if higher charging rates cook the batteries. I bet those batteries are not cheap.
There is no info to support battery life is reduced by using the supplied 240 volt charger or the Ford Connected Level 2 charger.
Vans like this will be ideal for trades people whom operate with towns or cities, such as plumbers, electricians etc. These people don't tend to drive more than 100 miles or so per day..
Exactly!
Hi what was the cost of your vehicle thanks
Our came in at about $56k. No mark-up and an amazing ordering/purchasing experience from Gary Crossly Ford in Liberty, Missouri.
I would like to see the projected range fully loaded maxed out see what the mileage range in the real world of using E transit as most vehicles will be fully loaded
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I'm in South Florida and I have a property about 180 miles away and almost no public chargers between the two spots. Florida is hot and humid and I like driving with windows open. Maybe in 5 years.
Or buy an EV with better range. My lightning gets 300 miles to a charge and it recharges overnight.
City range is better than highway due to much less aero drag. Regen is only relatively better than an ice vehicle, but not as perfect as a steady 20-30mph. Ice vehicles only get relatively higher mpg on the highway because their large engines have so atrocious efficiency at low load/speed. Ev energy use is much more of a linear relationship with speed. Regen helps, but you get to put back to the wheels about 50% of what you lose when braking.
Problem is that truck is not loaded and is brand new so with age and load the range will not work for a service vehicle
Check out our other videos. We do the same exercise again with the van fully loaded. It's working perfectly so far. Very impressed!
Once the batteries have been cycled a few times they should also give you about 5% more range. To do a realistic test you should throw a couple thousand pounds in the back.
Check out our latest video. We did exactly that!
Mitch... Did you Really just say "on the gas"?!? 🤣
Yeah that's gonna take some getting used to. Lol
Oops!
There will be reserve. Yes there you go. Ford makes these more for Europe to do city deliveries.
Good to know!
Don't forget... your miles traveled when it was raining, leaving water on the road, created more rolling resistance, thereby cutting into your mileage. Rainy days cut down range... ICE cars too.
Great point!
So many variables to account for.. Cargo Weight, Winds, Traffic, etc...So I would assume these should be able to go at least 100miles fully loaded.
I still want a small gasoline engine to fall back on. As the grid goes down. You're not going anywhere.....See California rolling blackouts. You will get it then.....
We are in the Midwest and the grid is very durable. Check out our other video where we did a similar run fully loaded.
@@SmedleyPlumbing I'm an Electrical engineer. I can tell you the National Grid is at risk. As they have not upgraded it in 70 years...As it's at 95% capacity right now.
Why they installed smart meters in homes. They can shut your power off anytime they like. To prevent taking down the whole grid...
And California is the worst. They buy their power from out of state. As they shut down all Power production. And replaced it with Wind Farms and Solar Panels. Which are failing all the time.
So the United States will pay for their stupidity. They wasted time. money and resources on a pipe dream. Hell they spent $200 Billion on a train system. That does not even exist yet...
@@WizzRacing and you don't thing the fuel grid is at risk? We are seeing the risk first hand right now. Prices doubled and no end in sight.
@@SmedleyPlumbing There is no fuel grid. We have a refinery problem. As Americans again in their stupidity shut all but two refineries down.
That means the ability to not only refine fuels but store it. Is the issue. As America is so ignorant. they have no clue that refineries are at 97% capacity. ie no place to store it.
And the reason the fuel prices are so high. The Central Banks have been borrowing the Federal Reserve Banks zero interest rates since 2008 housing crisis. To cover their $9 trillion in loses.
They borrow that cheap money. Jack the cost of oil contracts up. Then once high enough. They sell them off. Pay back the Federal reserve and take their profits. Then do it all over again.
Why the second I asked they raise margins on oil contracts to 35% and you must take delivery of the contracts.. They went crazy...As that would stop that horse shit..
You can thank Cox School of Business for that education. As I had no clue how it worked. Till I heard that...
@@WizzRacing my point is that we're all tied to a grid of some sort. It's out job to use the one that gives is the highest advantage.
Find it ironic that you`re having your grass cut with a noisy ICE mower! We have been using BEV mower & tools for 3 years now. Are able to mow 1/4 acre & bagging of grass with 1 charge on 80 Volt mower by Kobolt even with grass being wet or damp. Secret we found is once battery shows empty of charge you don`t stop to empty bag if can avoid doing so & then you will finish mowing job.Only once have we had to use a backup smaller battery to complete mowing. Eventually, we want to replace older ICE pickup with possibly this E-van as we don`t like crew cab pickups! We haul tools & materials not people! Wish a standard cab E-pickup was going to be made by someone.
Yeah who knows there EV may land at my house. Lol
Where do you think there technology come from ?, VW
All over the world
A perfect example of ‘range anxiety’.
We are trying to resolve that with these tests. It's nice to see it travel further than what Ford claims.
They have free energy , hybrid engines they just dont want to release it
I don't think I'm buying that idea.
@@SmedleyPlumbing the car companies have patents , plus suppression of technology like the tesla tower
@@SmedleyPlumbing are you sleep , like sheep?
@@flip0345 you honestly think car companies are sitting on a billion dollar idea and not doing anything about it? Get real.
@@SmedleyPlumbing u have alot to learn
I drive Amish an EV is not viable for the mileage and charge times.
Need at least 300 miles fully loaded,
(14 passengers and sometimes a trailer)and a charge time of under 10 minutes. Then there is a matter of charging stations. Rural areas very doubtful charging will ever be available.
Sounds like EV isn't the best option for you. But it's worth keeping tabs on for when the range improves.
I didn't think the Amish would be interested in an EV anyway
@@Jacxel How are they watching and commenting??
WTF ! Is that a gasoline lawnmower ? ! Get an E-Go.
Lol.
Who buys a Transit to carry nothing? Your the 1st Plumber to drive an empty plumbing van😂 Even when my new van arrives, I instantly switch all my crap into it!! In 35 years of being a Service Plumber I have never driven an empty van🤣
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me. We clearly stated we were doing an empty range test and then a fully loaded range test.
A big van that like should have more than enough room for a larger battery pack. To only have a range of around 200 miles is absolutely pathetic.
Larger battery cuts into storage space.
Plus most of the time you are not coming home with zero.
indeed!
This video gave me anxiety…
Wait till we release the fully loaded range video. We do a similar test but with our full plumbing service build-out in the van.
I'll keep my gas Transit. 442 mile range on a full tank and I can fill up in 10 minutes.
You driving 400+ miles per day?
Wow only 123 miles mixed use range from 100% to 0% with nothing in it? What a joke. The van is basically ewaste. Realistically you wouldn't charge it to 100% to protect the batteries. You wouldn't drain it to 0% either. If you only charged it to 90% and drained it to 20% you are looking at a meager 86 miles range if my math is right. I'm afraid to see how pathetic the range is when loaded down and/or in extreme temperatures. I'm sure it is perfectly fine for intown use though
It's intended for people who drive an average of 70 miles per day. Every vane in our fleet drives this average. It works perfect for us.
Only 10 years behind the electric leaders
They may be behind today but we'll see the Lightning before we see any other electric truck.
Tesla has no current equivalent of this vehicle, only a mock up.
Absolutely pathetic range. This would never work for me.
And that's okay!
Not good and is one of the reasons I wouldn't have an electric Transit‼️
It's definitely designed for in-town service and delivery personnel.
totally useless
Thanks!
Boring
Thanks for watching!