I agree that this is a very important vehicle. These stop and go service vans have terrible gas mileage in a city, so the operating cost of the electric version of the van will be significantly lower. I would guess 8k premium for the electric version would pay back in under 4 years, probably 3 if you are in California where gas is close to $5/gallon. 50 miles a day, * 220 days a year is 11k miles per year, and with the gas car costing 25 cents/mile to run, and electric 5 cents/mile to run, that is a savings of 20 cents/mile, and thus $2200/year. But also less brake pad wear, and no oil changes. So this product should be fairly popular.
@@KaidonSalter4Heisman You do bring up a good point. Most of the US battery systems are very hard and expensive to repair, unlike the blade system that BYD uses in China. We must insist that the auto companies make sure their products are repairable, otherwise we end up with the Apple situation, where the thing is glued together, and basically unrepairable. We need to fight not only for right to repair, but also for the design to make repair easier.
@@edwarddejong8025 He brings up a good point, but in a way that makes you think his wet dream is the spontaneous combustion of all EVs while he dances on their ashes, since it wasn't helpful comment -nor funny.-
Thanks for the detailed review, ordered mine in October, set to be built March 14th!! Got a medium roof / long wheel base in Abyss gray coming with pretty much all the bells & whistles to replace my current 15' Transit with 178k. Super stoked for my first EV
@@prndlcars Mobile detailing business, some days I work locally but others I have to drive 150-200 miles so I will be having to charge it in the middle of trips, but I am willing to live with it. Hopefully an AWD extended range is in the works, ill trade this one in if that happens
Ah, the 2.4 kW onboard power will likely be pretty useful for you! AWD extended is definitely coming but it might be a while. If you have fast chargers around, the longer trips shouldn't be *too* bad. Let me know when you get it and what you think! Are you upgrading from an existing gas-powered Transit?
The fleet I work for uses E-350 cutaway chassis with ambulance box on the back. Would love to see Ford come out with a transit van that could be used for that, electric obviously.
Ford is onto something with the EV set up by supporting their customers especially with the telematics. When most businesses with dedicated local routes make these EVs into their fleets, autoshops will hurt from not making money from routine maintenance like oil changes or engine work.
What on earth makes Ford think I’d want to discuss the exact price when they don’t want to discuss the exact battery capacity/range? That’s pretty important information for me.
The battery capacity is disclosed, it's 68 kWh of usable energy. The battery is a bit bigger than that for a variety of reasons, but not by much. Usable is the important part, honestly. Range is 106-126 miles depending on configuration (and how you drive, and lots of other factors).
Hi David, longer range versions are definitely coming. Ford said they choose this based on price and the fact that some significant percentage of fleet Transit customers drive less than 100 miles a day. It’s also a bit of a trial to see how businesses will integrate EVs into their fleets. I’d say dual-motor AWD versions with larger batteries are coming in 2023 or 2024.
Ford missed the biggest opportunity in the world. Why did they not make the roof have solar panels. You have the largest area to put solar panels and charge all the time. This would extend the range and cost people less money in electricity.
People comment about this all the time but it's simply not effective. Solar would add hundreds if not thousands of dollars to the cost while offering trivial range extension. Perhaps a few miles at best even with the large surface area of a van. Solar simply doesn't generate enough power per sq ft to matter compared to the power usage of an EV. Without some radical improvements in solar cell efficiency it never will.
Unfortunately that doesn’t work out well for more specific trades that tend to have customers in a wider area. My company does historic restoration. So mostly carpentry work but down masonry. Our current job is an hour drive every day. It’s not readable with that range especially if you live somewhere without a driveway to plug it in every night.
I like 👍🏻 the idea but unfortunately this car doesn’t work for me I’m a contractor and drive 100 to 170 miles por day and sometimes I pull trailer is perfect for this time gas is so expensive but at the moment have not choice
I'm in the same boat. I would like to replace my current NV2500 this year but there is simply NO EV option that's remotely capable of doing so. Looks to me like I may end up going to a 1/2 ton diesel chevy or ram pickup with a contractor topper and bed slide. Not as convenient as a van but double the fuel economy.
I would have loved - as a guy who sells them - a hybrid option. Seems like the best of both worlds, no range anxiety with a lot better start/stop fuel economy.
battery 100% 120-150 miles 120 miles , recommends charging 80% ,and if you attach a trailer and the user is air-conditioner so it will be 70 miles, it;s just not enough, can you add more batteries????
If you have to attach a trailer AND go 120 miles, this isn't the truck for you. There will be more, with much longer ranges. It's a first-generation product.
@@prndlcars Sadly even the regular gas/diesel Transit lacks towing capacity or I'd be driving one today. As it is they can't match even a basic half-ton truck. The last van that could tow a reasonable amount was the Nissan NV2500/3500 and that's been discontinued now.
What is the 'range cost' for a fully loaded van? If this is supposed to have 126 miles of range, how much does it lose when it's loaded with a bulkhead, racks, and material for the job?
It really depends, but aero affects range more than weight - and driving style affects range a lot more than aero. If you have to go 120 miles a day, I’d say it’s not going to work. But if you have to go 75, it’ll work great fully loaded. Hopefully that makes sense. It’s such an individual situation it’s hard to generalize.
I thought the video was more of a sales pitch than a review. We know the transit comes in multiple sizes.. we're in the market. Is the monitor standard? Is it touch screen? Is GPS included? How long does it take to charge? Is there LED lighting in the cargo area. Is the key fob the same? I noticed a dial shifter instead of the lever, but this wasn't mentioned. Does it corner well with a lower center of gravity? Is this a 150, 250 or 350? Are the rubber tires unique like other EVs? I digress, but I felt like this was an introduction to e-transit rather than a review. Thanks
It was a first drive, so in a way it was an introduction. But since most folks who are going to buy an E-Transit are likely to be intimately familiar with the Transit, I skipped a lot of that stuff to focus on the bigger picture. The screen is standard and it is a touchscreen, wireless connectivity is standard and so is navigation. It uses a standard key. The only differences are the propulsion system and the shift knob from a Mach-E. It seemed to corner fine, but I have very limited experience with the standard Transit so I couldn't say with much certainty. Apologies. I did talk about all the different models. In the US they aren't using 150/250/350 nomenclature, just "Regular" "Long" and "Extended" lengths. There are also three different roof heights and it's available in cutaway and chassis cab versions, too. I don't have anything for you on the tires other that they're 235/65R16C 121/119 R BSW All-Season Tires. Cargo compartment LED lighting is an available option (one of many, many options) on some trims.
Also, charging time varies on a number of factors, but generally speaking: 48A Level 2 0-100% is roughly 8 hours 30A Level 2 0-100% is around 12 hours. 50 kW DC fast charging from 15-80% is about 65 minutes 115 kW DC fast charging from 15-80% takes about 34 minutes.
Companies that have EV service vans may want to market their business as environmentally friendly to spur interest from environmentally conscious customers. I would be more likely to choose an EV fleeted company with my business, and if this van showed up at my house, I would offer them use of my level 2 charger. If they spent 3 hours on my repair, they could add ~50 or so miles to their battery. That would add maybe 20 kWh to my electric bill. At 8¢/kWh= $1.60. Such an insignificant amount I wouldn't expect them to deduct it from the bill, but they'd probably do that anyway as a good will gesture. If temporary power panels at new construction job sites begin installing NEMA 14-50 outlets for sub-contractors and as EVs become more popular and more customers have level 2 chargers at their homes, service techs will probably be able to count on having more opportunities for bump-up charging while on the service call. In the future you'll be able to spec vans/trucks with smaller and smaller batteries to get the initial cost of the vehicles even lower.
Optional add on. There are lots of them, like shelving or all manner of things. Some are from Ford, others from aftermarket upfitters. If you can imagine it…
Hi Graham, it has a “lane-keeping aid” but not a lane centering assist. It’ll push you back if you start to cross the line but that’s it. No hands-off driving at all. I suspect that’s what your F-150 has as well. It’s meant as a bit of a guardrail if you start to drift a little out of your lane.
It always intrigues me why a vehicle that is simpler to produce and maintain is not cheaper than a petro model. They still always argue that since you'll save in the long run we'll charge you more up front, like a punishment. Now counting on a tax reduction is simply dishonest: others pay more for you to have a benefit.
@@prndlcars Truth. Ford and others that have yet to achieve large-scale production like Telsa. Not to mention the cost of batteries that require very painful and unhealthy work by miners and a massive environmental impact of pollution and soil deterioration, in addition to having many people being paid to look the other way. However, the advancement of technology and the market can solve all this. Thanks for the comment. My best regards.
@@guineapigzed There is nothing better than admitting to yourself and to the world that you are unjust and a financier of child slave labor and the pollution of the planet by lithium mines.
Now why would one person want to buy an electric vehicle when you're limited on how many miles you can go and then you got to hope that you find a recharging place when needed to be recharged? Then when you buy it you are going to have to have an electrician come to your house to put a recharging station at your house. And as you said 125 miles ain't very far. And that being a bigger vehicle is going to complete the batteries faster than what it would be if it was lighter... It made this is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard a car manufacturer come out with with an agreement of the government trying to screw the American people over and take gasoline away so they can over reach their powers to control the public and tell them what they can do what they can't do like dictators. My final thoughts stick the electric in your butts because it ain't going to work
Remember you only have 80 percent of showing range and you split that in half because you have to get back. I recommend at least 350 miles range with the Above things in mind. Or you may be unhappy FYI
Ford need to make an all-electric Custom, but I guess that if this sells well (and I'm sure it will), they will in the next year or so. What's your thoughts?
So low range means that it is an intra-city vehicle and highly recharge dependable. They don’t want peoples going to others cities, like Mercedes. Let us hope they release a model with a good amount of range in the future.
Because there really isn't a need for it, it's a commercial van so a box on wheels is all that's really needed - but mostly it's because if you redesign it, everyone has to redesign their upfit gear and accessories and that is really expensive unless you have a very good reason to do it.
Looking forward to the Transit Custom going electric. However, I have to say I am not in love with the gear selectors in these e-vehicles. Either super flimsy or - as here - a rotary dial. Yes, it saves space / gets out of your way. And maybe that is OK for long range vehicles where you rarely have to change gear (reverse / forward) but for stop and go? Will take some get used to.
Chill bro, the Transit detects you leaving the van and put it automatically in park, they're just somehow thinking of everything 🤯 Besides that, it shouldn't really take longer turning a knob, instead of pulling the handbrake. I don't think fast deliveries will be problem at all 🤷🏻♂️
@@skankhunt420 Good to know that it would do it. Just had a Kia that gave me a hard time on parking because I forgot to put the automatic gears in park. I have been a manual-gear driver since day one and it is force of habit to leave the car in gear when parking, though that was the first time it happened to me in a manual. The next car I used did it as you describe. But ... by stop and go I meant driving short distances, then turning, backing in and out and so on. Again, as a manual gear driver you are so used to flip through gears with a stick. It will just take some time getting used to tiny knobs and dials. I don't "take them serious" 😁
Nice thought, but simply not viable. Case in point: I am a self employed tradesman. I currently drive a Nissan NV2500 van for work. I am currently in the market for a replacement vehicle as with the current gas prices I'm on track to approach $20K in fuel alone. Please show me a viable EV replacement given my use case: Typical daily travel is 175-200 miles, occasionally 300 miles. Mostly highway of course. I also need to occasionally tow 8000 lbs long distances of 300-1000 miles. Personally I don't like the NV2500 but it's the only van that can do that. Even the gas/diesel Transit or Sprinter have minimal towing capacity. Looking at both current and near-term potential vehicles the closest thing I can see is the half-ton diesel GM or Ram pickup with a contractor's topper and bed up-fit for work. Even those will be a loss compared to a van since they don't offer full size beds but at least they can manage 30 mpg highway vs my 13. NO electric even comes close, nor is one even in the development stage that could do that. If it was, I'd look at it but until range, charging infrastructure, our entire electrical grid supply, and most importantly charging times all radically improve EV is not an option for users like me. And there are PLENTY of commercial users in my situation. Nearly every self employed or small business contractor fits into this category. The best case is as a secondary vehicle. I could potentially get a smaller EV to use for small and local jobs AND a diesel truck to handle the towing/longer range jobs but that's hardly a financially viable solution. EV is fine for local/light duty use but it's still several generations from full viability.
@@donhappel9566 You nailed it. Notice how every person saying this is a great option for service techs and contractors is a person with zero experience in that line of work? These aren’t anywhere close to viable option, and no I don’t say that because I’m some environment hating conspiracy theorist either. I’d love to save a ton of money of fuel. This transit isn’t even close to being there yet.
And.... queue all the comments, by people who have never sat in an EV, that "boo-hoo need more range". Funny how range anxiety only hits people with zero or just a little experience with EVs. Us EV owners never seem to have the problem, weird huh?
Unfortunately these, as well as all EV van plans I've seen discussed, are really only targeted at parcel delivery. For them it's about volume more than weight, and since they are only used for local route delivery range and recharge times aren't an issue. For a contractor or tradesman this isn't yet an option.
BMW calls it a range extender, not for sure what size of generator they use. For DIY, RV motorhome math comes in to play. A 4KW generator provides 30A service, A 7KW generator gives 50A. If you went with a large house backup generator, you'll need some electrician skills.
They won't buy it. No one is saying this is a solution for everyone. It also won't tow 25,000 pounds or work as a snow plow, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have value for many potential users.
like everything new on the market, give it a few years to get bugs worked out. gasoline engine i have i fill it up once a week. ev may have to be topped off everyday. don't have time for that
It is a pity that Ford took as a basis a body from a rear-wheel drive van, it is very convenient for me with a "low floor". Of course, for a truck, rear-wheel drive is the most correct option ... Is it going to be a front wheel drive version or a rear wheel drive version with a low floor?
The 500 mile range is something which will probably come at a later date. Right now, battery cost and weight are the major limiting factors there. So a gas, diesel and quite possibility a hybrid version of the van is available to fill that roll until a 500 mile battery pack is available for the van. The 100 to 150 mile range is what’s on the plate right now.
@@americanrambler4972 our monthly vehicle gas bill is $3000 here in Alberta canada! Gas price is 1.43$/L now! And Alberta is producing 80% of Canadian oil. I m not sure if my business can survive till the 500mile range electric van landed in canada.
@Goat I am fascinated at the wide variety of vans available in Europe. All the way from picnic basket size all the way up to full size lorries and everything in between. And the sheer numbers of them as a proportion of the overall vehicle fleet seems to be huge. You guys are in love with those little things. Except for heavy duty pickups and vans, diesels are not popular here in the States. The smaller vans that are very common in Europe are virtually non existent here. About the smallest vans you see here are the Transit Connect, Ram Promaster City (like Fiat Doblo long wheelbase version) and the Nissan NV 200. And none have the diesel option currently available. A hey are all petrol engine with automatics. I think ford offered a diesel for the transit connect for a short while but it was discontinued. Small diesels for vans are currently a hard sell in the states. If you hop in the way back machine and go back to the late 70’s to the mid 80’s, a number of diesel powered Isuzu P’ups and VW Rabbit pickups were sold, but they were very slow, smoky and stinky. Not all that many were sold. I drove the Isuzu and was extremely disappointed it it’s drivability and performance. They got good mileage, but unless you hated driving and wanted to punish yourself for every mile you drove, you did not own or drive one of those. And you never ever wanted to be stuck behind one in traffic. Their smog and black coal rolling content was something not to experience. I am anticipating both hybrid and electric van and pickup options will grow here over the next couple of years. But I don’t think diesel hybrids will be offered. The smog exhaust treatment systems are too expensive and they take up to much space in the vehicle.
Good idea for the camper crowd, total non starter for a service van. Even as charging stations become more common, the time required to charge takes it entirely out of consideration. That range is not even close to enough btw. I go to job site sites that can nearly use that entire range one way to the job. Also keep in mind that range estimate is a completely empty van. A service can fully racked out full of stock, tools and ladder rack is a ton of added weight which will significantly diminish that range. I like the idea of this but it’s still a long ways away from being practical.
I’m a contractor and on a Ford transit. I put about 30,000 miles a year on my Ford transit. I don’t know who they talk to but 125 miles wouldn’t even make me through the day. As a delivery driver I know for a fact they drive more than that per day. I’m not sure how they’re going to sell this as a commercial vehicle with that low miles per gallon
I'm not trying to be unhelpful, but since you said "with that low miles per gallon" makes me think you aren't well versed with EVs or you just let it slip you're still heavily internal-combustion-minded. I guess that's fine, since I don't see ICE Transits going away for a decade, _minimum._
Honestly this is very disappointing. I was excited when the F150 came out and has 370-483 km range. This 200km range but on short wheel base with low roof. That sucks, I need the high roof and the long box, and I’m in Canada will be driving in -40 temperatures. I drive 160-220km a day so this isn’t going to work. This needs a double battery option. Really disappointing I will probably ending up in another diesel sprinter.
It's the first version, basically an E-Transit retrofit with a Mach-E powertrain. Longer battery versions are definitely coming, but gotta give it some time unfortunately. The future is coming, but it's not here yet!
I watched 3 different "reviews " and they all sounded exactly the same, like the "reviewers" were reading from the same script. given by Ford! Please, I can read the same info from their website. How about YOUR PERSONAL OPINION on how it looks, how it feels, how it sounds, how interesting, how exciting, how impressive or not... Thanks
I wonder how many driveshaft recalls it will have. I lost track how many times I had to take my transit in before I was forced to buy a new driveshaft out of my own pocket.
Ford does not have problem selling products, they have some of the best SOUGHT AFTER VEHICLES... the problem is that Ford is free cash flow POOR, in 2020, from the top 20 vehicle manufacturers, it was in the last place at 47 million in Profit with sales of 155 billion, Toyota was at 19 billion in profits with sales of 225 billions. Why?i ask, if Ford can not keep up with the demand due to a great offering. What are they doing wrong? Let's not even talk about the stock, it is around 20 dollars. FORD selling their vehicles at cost plus .05% (that is about $2000 profit per vehicle sold to dealers) and it does not take into account the cost of warranting the cars for 3 years. Why? Translated , Toyota and the rest can kick our butt anytime if they wanted to by dumping prices and other tactics.
@1:36, “They sell a ton of them…” A “ton of them” are all ICE Transit that has a range more than the 126 miles range Transit EV. No tradesman will buy the current 126 miles range EV Transit which is good for 1 or 2 service call per day before range anxiety compels the driver to look for a fast DC charging station. Fully charging the EV transit from empty on a 240V charger requires about 6 hours - down time makes no money. Ford is scamming the consumer; it will soon offer a larger battery option giving the Transit EV a respectable range - for extra money. This is the old ‘punishment’ and relief scam.
I could see these having their use in cities or local areas where the travel time is low and congestion being high. For any commute that requires a charge it probably isn't worth it.
"No tradesman will buy the current 126 miles range EV Transit " Yeah, too bad those amateurs at Ford didn't ask some random people on the internet with opinions before they decided on what range their van should have. Clearly people like you know much better what Ford's customers want than Ford does. Right? SMH
I guess I need to reconsider my employment then. Darn it. I stay booked two months out and stay within a 30 mile radius of the house. In fact, over the past year I've had exactly one job that I would have to charge to make the round trip. We stayed overnight there, so staying at a hotel with complementary charging would fit the bill. Just got on the wait list for the 2023 and cant wait. Even if fuel comes down again, the whole commodity fuel scam has burned this bridge one last time. I'll sit and charge 20-30 mins at a DCFC station while I eat my lunch, catch up on email, send out quotes/invoices, ect.
Unfortunately in the UK the models above 3.5 tons are limited to 56 mph. Not much point having 265hp with such a low top speed. I'll have to stick with diesel!
It would help if Ford made it clear which models have which Gross Vehicle Weight. Ford list 3.5, 3.9 and 4.25T versions… is that for each different length or is roof height playing into it? This class of van is never typically over 3.5T (because then it restricts who can drive it), but there’s new legislation in the UK that allows up to 4.25T electric vans to fall into the 3.5T class… And that’s great, because it means we can carry similar payloads to the diesel versions. But the information released so far is really sketchy. And will you be speed-restricted in a 4.25T electric van? And pricing? Considering this van is supposed to start deliveries in a couple of months it’s a poor show from Ford. Love having power outlets on board, but apart from that it’s not blowing my mind compared to the Citroen / Peugeot/ Vauxhall van.
Sorry?? 260hp isn’t a lot for a van. What the fuck sort of vans have you been driving. The highest hp I’ve ever heard of in a van is 200 and that’s in a full-size iveco
@3:57, what are you smoking? You’re not getting the Best bang for the buck for the E-Transit that has a range of 125miles. The Transit van can be had in either EV or ICE. If 125 miles is good enough for the Transit EV, why does the Transit ICE have a 30 gal petro tank giving it nearly 400 mile range? Stop kissing Ford’s ass; be honest; come clean. You know 125 miles for a Transit EV is a Ford scam when tradesmen drive more than 125 miles per day.
"The employees will be less tired because the van is quieter"-- lmfao! Oh do I have a bridge to sell you. Sales men never fail to impress on the IQ level of stupidity. 😒 WTF does work have to do with engines that are quiet or not? Most people play music when they drive, so it defeats the purpose to begin with. The only thing EV engines are good for is maintenance/cheaper to charge and better quality of life.
125miles is junk. I would say double it and you would catch the interest of many more trademen. That range is only good if you live and work in the same city. Most tradesmen travel around close surrounding cities at the very least.
Yep, this is a niche product which is good because they have very limited production capacity. Next-gen will go much further, a la the F-150 Lightning which is above 320 miles on the big battery pack.
Yeah, those amateurs at Ford, thinking that they know what their customers want. Silly huh? Clearly they should have asked you, a random internet dude with opinions, before they set the specs for their vans. SMH
Pretty sure that catastrophic climate change makes life even more difficult. But screw your children's future as long as you don't have to change, right?
The company being able to reimburse employees for charging company vehicles at their homes is simply amazing logistics. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I agree that this is a very important vehicle. These stop and go service vans have terrible gas mileage in a city, so the operating cost of the electric version of the van will be significantly lower. I would guess 8k premium for the electric version would pay back in under 4 years, probably 3 if you are in California where gas is close to $5/gallon. 50 miles a day, * 220 days a year is 11k miles per year, and with the gas car costing 25 cents/mile to run, and electric 5 cents/mile to run, that is a savings of 20 cents/mile, and thus $2200/year. But also less brake pad wear, and no oil changes. So this product should be fairly popular.
Good luck if you need any repairs
@@KaidonSalter4Heisman You do bring up a good point. Most of the US battery systems are very hard and expensive to repair, unlike the blade system that BYD uses in China. We must insist that the auto companies make sure their products are repairable, otherwise we end up with the Apple situation, where the thing is glued together, and basically unrepairable.
We need to fight not only for right to repair, but also for the design to make repair easier.
@@edwarddejong8025 He brings up a good point, but in a way that makes you think his wet dream is the spontaneous combustion of all EVs while he dances on their ashes, since it wasn't helpful comment -nor funny.-
No more oil changes too!
Thanks for the detailed review, ordered mine in October, set to be built March 14th!! Got a medium roof / long wheel base in Abyss gray coming with pretty much all the bells & whistles to replace my current 15' Transit with 178k. Super stoked for my first EV
That's great! What will you use it for, and what's your typical mileage in a day?
@@prndlcars Mobile detailing business, some days I work locally but others I have to drive 150-200 miles so I will be having to charge it in the middle of trips, but I am willing to live with it. Hopefully an AWD extended range is in the works, ill trade this one in if that happens
Ah, the 2.4 kW onboard power will likely be pretty useful for you! AWD extended is definitely coming but it might be a while. If you have fast chargers around, the longer trips shouldn't be *too* bad. Let me know when you get it and what you think!
Are you upgrading from an existing gas-powered Transit?
Doesn't the tesla have a bigger size battery?
I just bought one. love love it!!!!
Reviewed, we Need at least 300 Miles👈
The fleet I work for uses E-350 cutaway chassis with ambulance box on the back. Would love to see Ford come out with a transit van that could be used for that, electric obviously.
I think it’s safe to say that EVs for all those different use cases are on the way.
Ford is onto something with the EV set up by supporting their customers especially with the telematics. When most businesses with dedicated local routes make these EVs into their fleets, autoshops will hurt from not making money from routine maintenance like oil changes or engine work.
"Just the brakes and tires, please, and don't upsell me!"
What on earth makes Ford think I’d want to discuss the exact price when they don’t want to discuss the exact battery capacity/range? That’s pretty important information for me.
The battery capacity is disclosed, it's 68 kWh of usable energy. The battery is a bit bigger than that for a variety of reasons, but not by much. Usable is the important part, honestly.
Range is 106-126 miles depending on configuration (and how you drive, and lots of other factors).
Wish it had more range
I heard that Ford is considering a future consumer version of this van that would have a longer range. Do you know anything about that?
Hi David, longer range versions are definitely coming. Ford said they choose this based on price and the fact that some significant percentage of fleet Transit customers drive less than 100 miles a day.
It’s also a bit of a trial to see how businesses will integrate EVs into their fleets. I’d say dual-motor AWD versions with larger batteries are coming in 2023 or 2024.
@@prndlcars definitely looking forward to these!
Especially AWD!
But i'm already not fine the prices in europe!
About 20 grand more for nothing!
@@prndlcars I certainly hope so. 126 miles is way too low in my opinion.
If Ford made a eTransit passenger and finished it like a Expedition or Explorer I’d sell my minivan instantly
Glad to see this van come to market.
I am locksmith and I drive about 300 miles per day
The next-generation truck should be a better fit for you! Also, the BrightDrop Zevo 600 might be an interesting option once that comes out...
Ford missed the biggest opportunity in the world. Why did they not make the roof have solar panels. You have the largest area to put solar panels and charge all the time. This would extend the range and cost people less money in electricity.
Solar panels are expensive and would barely generate enough power to run the on-board systems, never mind get you a meaningful amount of distance.
People comment about this all the time but it's simply not effective. Solar would add hundreds if not thousands of dollars to the cost while offering trivial range extension. Perhaps a few miles at best even with the large surface area of a van. Solar simply doesn't generate enough power per sq ft to matter compared to the power usage of an EV. Without some radical improvements in solar cell efficiency it never will.
You can do it yourself.
I think in a sunny day you’ll get ten miles?
Has the Transit been in the USA for long? It's been king for working men and women in the UK since the 60s. It is our equivalent of your F150 Truck.
It won't work for expedited hot shots. 750 miles in 11 hours.
Definitely not, diesel rigs aren't leaving us yet.
Unfortunately that doesn’t work out well for more specific trades that tend to have customers in a wider area. My company does historic restoration. So mostly carpentry work but down masonry. Our current job is an hour drive every day. It’s not readable with that range especially if you live somewhere without a driveway to plug it in every night.
Obviously, it doesn't work for you now, but hopefully you'll keep your eyes open to future developments instead of writing off EVs altogether.
I like 👍🏻 the idea but unfortunately this car doesn’t work for me I’m a contractor and drive 100 to 170 miles por day and sometimes I pull trailer is perfect for this time gas is so expensive but at the moment have not choice
I'm in the same boat. I would like to replace my current NV2500 this year but there is simply NO EV option that's remotely capable of doing so. Looks to me like I may end up going to a 1/2 ton diesel chevy or ram pickup with a contractor topper and bed slide. Not as convenient as a van but double the fuel economy.
I would have loved - as a guy who sells them - a hybrid option. Seems like the best of both worlds, no range anxiety with a lot better start/stop fuel economy.
battery 100% 120-150 miles 120 miles , recommends charging 80% ,and if you attach a trailer and the user is air-conditioner so it will be 70 miles, it;s just not enough, can you add more batteries????
If you have to attach a trailer AND go 120 miles, this isn't the truck for you. There will be more, with much longer ranges. It's a first-generation product.
@@prndlcars Sadly even the regular gas/diesel Transit lacks towing capacity or I'd be driving one today. As it is they can't match even a basic half-ton truck. The last van that could tow a reasonable amount was the Nissan NV2500/3500 and that's been discontinued now.
What is the 'range cost' for a fully loaded van? If this is supposed to have 126 miles of range, how much does it lose when it's loaded with a bulkhead, racks, and material for the job?
It really depends, but aero affects range more than weight - and driving style affects range a lot more than aero. If you have to go 120 miles a day, I’d say it’s not going to work. But if you have to go 75, it’ll work great fully loaded.
Hopefully that makes sense. It’s such an individual situation it’s hard to generalize.
I thought the video was more of a sales pitch than a review. We know the transit comes in multiple sizes.. we're in the market. Is the monitor standard? Is it touch screen? Is GPS included? How long does it take to charge? Is there LED lighting in the cargo area. Is the key fob the same? I noticed a dial shifter instead of the lever, but this wasn't mentioned. Does it corner well with a lower center of gravity? Is this a 150, 250 or 350? Are the rubber tires unique like other EVs? I digress, but I felt like this was an introduction to e-transit rather than a review. Thanks
It was a first drive, so in a way it was an introduction. But since most folks who are going to buy an E-Transit are likely to be intimately familiar with the Transit, I skipped a lot of that stuff to focus on the bigger picture.
The screen is standard and it is a touchscreen, wireless connectivity is standard and so is navigation. It uses a standard key. The only differences are the propulsion system and the shift knob from a Mach-E. It seemed to corner fine, but I have very limited experience with the standard Transit so I couldn't say with much certainty. Apologies.
I did talk about all the different models. In the US they aren't using 150/250/350 nomenclature, just "Regular" "Long" and "Extended" lengths. There are also three different roof heights and it's available in cutaway and chassis cab versions, too.
I don't have anything for you on the tires other that they're 235/65R16C 121/119 R BSW All-Season Tires.
Cargo compartment LED lighting is an available option (one of many, many options) on some trims.
Also, charging time varies on a number of factors, but generally speaking:
48A Level 2 0-100% is roughly 8 hours
30A Level 2 0-100% is around 12 hours.
50 kW DC fast charging from 15-80% is about 65 minutes
115 kW DC fast charging from 15-80% takes about 34 minutes.
Companies that have EV service vans may want to market their business as environmentally friendly to spur interest from environmentally conscious customers. I would be more likely to choose an EV fleeted company with my business, and if this van showed up at my house, I would offer them use of my level 2 charger. If they spent 3 hours on my repair, they could add ~50 or so miles to their battery. That would add maybe 20 kWh to my electric bill. At 8¢/kWh= $1.60. Such an insignificant amount I wouldn't expect them to deduct it from the bill, but they'd probably do that anyway as a good will gesture. If temporary power panels at new construction job sites begin installing NEMA 14-50 outlets for sub-contractors and as EVs become more popular and more customers have level 2 chargers at their homes, service techs will probably be able to count on having more opportunities for bump-up charging while on the service call. In the future you'll be able to spec vans/trucks with smaller and smaller batteries to get the initial cost of the vehicles even lower.
Fantastic idea!
I’d also push for people that have level two chargers to let them out.
Hi I was wondering, I noticed the door behind the seat, is that an upgrade package or aftermarket install ?
Optional add on. There are lots of them, like shelving or all manner of things. Some are from Ford, others from aftermarket upfitters. If you can imagine it…
Hi! Did you try the lane centering assist? My F150 has a version, but it Ping Pongs from one side of the lane to the other, and is unusable.
Hi Graham, it has a “lane-keeping aid” but not a lane centering assist. It’ll push you back if you start to cross the line but that’s it. No hands-off driving at all.
I suspect that’s what your F-150 has as well. It’s meant as a bit of a guardrail if you start to drift a little out of your lane.
@@prndlcars Thanks for the reply!
If your vehicle ping pongs, it has lane keeping - not lane centering. Or it has both, but you only have one enabled.
Had to watch this video for two reasons. 1. The beard! 2. Ok the e-transit of course😂
What speed are you driving at ? Seems slow to me
Good morning
I will be ask you
From which Termin you can buy the transit in 7sa?
It always intrigues me why a vehicle that is simpler to produce and maintain is not cheaper than a petro model. They still always argue that since you'll save in the long run we'll charge you more up front, like a punishment.
Now counting on a tax reduction is simply dishonest: others pay more for you to have a benefit.
It might be simpler to produce (debatable) but the material costs are far higher. Simpler doesn’t mean cheaper.
@@prndlcars Truth. Ford and others that have yet to achieve large-scale production like Telsa. Not to mention the cost of batteries that require very painful and unhealthy work by miners and a massive environmental impact of pollution and soil deterioration, in addition to having many people being paid to look the other way. However, the advancement of technology and the market can solve all this. Thanks for the comment. My best regards.
You’ve just convinced me to buy a third electric vehicle.
I like the idea that rest of you are helping me buy a van.
@@guineapigzed There is nothing better than admitting to yourself and to the world that you are unjust and a financier of child slave labor and the pollution of the planet by lithium mines.
Now why would one person want to buy an electric vehicle when you're limited on how many miles you can go and then you got to hope that you find a recharging place when needed to be recharged? Then when you buy it you are going to have to have an electrician come to your house to put a recharging station at your house.
And as you said 125 miles ain't very far. And that being a bigger vehicle is going to complete the batteries faster than what it would be if it was lighter...
It made this is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard a car manufacturer come out with with an agreement of the government trying to screw the American people over and take gasoline away so they can over reach their powers to control the public and tell them what they can do what they can't do like dictators.
My final thoughts stick the electric in your butts because it ain't going to work
I’m going to buy another one, and through your taxes, you’ll help me buy it.
Thank you.
Remember you only have 80 percent of showing range and you split that in half because you have to get back. I recommend at least 350 miles range with the Above things in mind. Or you may be unhappy FYI
how much you lose in distance, when its carry weight
Great. So when is a City E-Transit for domestic use?
Doesn't it has a range of 150mile or something ?
when will it be released
Does the Heat and Ac work worth a darn?
Ford need to make an all-electric Custom, but I guess that if this sells well (and I'm sure it will), they will in the next year or so. What's your thoughts?
Definitely coming, electric versions of all the products will come as the tech matures and production ramps up.
So low range means that it is an intra-city vehicle and highly recharge dependable. They don’t want peoples going to others cities, like Mercedes. Let us hope they release a model with a good amount of range in the future.
Right, it’s meant for local use only. There will be future models, but this was built to keep costs down.
I want to see an E-Transit Connect or PHEV.
I can almost guarantee that an electric Transit Connect is in the works.
It will be 10 years, but still the design of the transit has not changed. What is the reason for this?
Because there really isn't a need for it, it's a commercial van so a box on wheels is all that's really needed - but mostly it's because if you redesign it, everyone has to redesign their upfit gear and accessories and that is really expensive unless you have a very good reason to do it.
@@prndlcars I asked because the Transit Custom was renewed too many times.
i hit 120-150 miles a day, how can i have enough battery ???????
That's easy. You wait for the next version to come out.
On lunch, charge.
Hello, what amperage and voltage does the wall charger need?
240V 50A is a good place to start.
@@prndlcars thank you
Looking forward to the Transit Custom going electric. However, I have to say I am not in love with the gear selectors in these e-vehicles. Either super flimsy or - as here - a rotary dial. Yes, it saves space / gets out of your way. And maybe that is OK for long range vehicles where you rarely have to change gear (reverse / forward) but for stop and go? Will take some get used to.
Chill bro, the Transit detects you leaving the van and put it automatically in park, they're just somehow thinking of everything 🤯
Besides that, it shouldn't really take longer turning a knob, instead of pulling the handbrake.
I don't think fast deliveries will be problem at all 🤷🏻♂️
@@skankhunt420 Good to know that it would do it. Just had a Kia that gave me a hard time on parking because I forgot to put the automatic gears in park. I have been a manual-gear driver since day one and it is force of habit to leave the car in gear when parking, though that was the first time it happened to me in a manual. The next car I used did it as you describe.
But ... by stop and go I meant driving short distances, then turning, backing in and out and so on. Again, as a manual gear driver you are so used to flip through gears with a stick. It will just take some time getting used to tiny knobs and dials. I don't "take them serious" 😁
Spin a little right to go backwards, spin a lot right to go forwards, spin left to park. Easy!
it's good to see these big corporations are starting to realize that there's no routes for the future but 100% electrification.
A lot of carmakers have been saying that for years. The trick is waiting for the tech to catch up.
Nice thought, but simply not viable. Case in point: I am a self employed tradesman. I currently drive a Nissan NV2500 van for work. I am currently in the market for a replacement vehicle as with the current gas prices I'm on track to approach $20K in fuel alone. Please show me a viable EV replacement given my use case: Typical daily travel is 175-200 miles, occasionally 300 miles. Mostly highway of course. I also need to occasionally tow 8000 lbs long distances of 300-1000 miles. Personally I don't like the NV2500 but it's the only van that can do that. Even the gas/diesel Transit or Sprinter have minimal towing capacity. Looking at both current and near-term potential vehicles the closest thing I can see is the half-ton diesel GM or Ram pickup with a contractor's topper and bed up-fit for work. Even those will be a loss compared to a van since they don't offer full size beds but at least they can manage 30 mpg highway vs my 13. NO electric even comes close, nor is one even in the development stage that could do that. If it was, I'd look at it but until range, charging infrastructure, our entire electrical grid supply, and most importantly charging times all radically improve EV is not an option for users like me. And there are PLENTY of commercial users in my situation. Nearly every self employed or small business contractor fits into this category. The best case is as a secondary vehicle. I could potentially get a smaller EV to use for small and local jobs AND a diesel truck to handle the towing/longer range jobs but that's hardly a financially viable solution. EV is fine for local/light duty use but it's still several generations from full viability.
@@donhappel9566 You nailed it. Notice how every person saying this is a great option for service techs and contractors is a person with zero experience in that line of work? These aren’t anywhere close to viable option, and no I don’t say that because I’m some environment hating conspiracy theorist either. I’d love to save a ton of money of fuel. This transit isn’t even close to being there yet.
but thx for info , still waiting on even regular vans in hawaii
it's all a bulkhead.... not a "divider" and it's a factory option.
also @ 24:50 why would i want Ford collecting my data so they can optimize my competition?
Because they can optimize you, too.
And.... queue all the comments, by people who have never sat in an EV, that "boo-hoo need more range".
Funny how range anxiety only hits people with zero or just a little experience with EVs. Us EV owners never seem to have the problem, weird huh?
Wow I didn't expect Tim Pool in the B - roll
150 miles?
well if they target us working people, for sure it matters how far with weight it can go, so yea you wrong on that point
Unfortunately these, as well as all EV van plans I've seen discussed, are really only targeted at parcel delivery. For them it's about volume more than weight, and since they are only used for local route delivery range and recharge times aren't an issue. For a contractor or tradesman this isn't yet an option.
I want to put that motor in a 1976 GMC front wheel drive motor home.
Can i convert it to hybrid by adding in the "frunk" a Honda genset 12kw. That will get u 250 miles before refulling.
BMW calls it a range extender, not for sure what size of generator they use. For DIY, RV motorhome math comes in to play. A 4KW generator provides 30A service, A 7KW generator gives 50A. If you went with a large house backup generator, you'll need some electrician skills.
it's an amazing video btw
If the battery was bigger, then they would say what it is. Not the "Equivalent".
What about drivers that drive 400-500 miles a day ?
They won't buy it. No one is saying this is a solution for everyone.
It also won't tow 25,000 pounds or work as a snow plow, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have value for many potential users.
Well, clearly they are not the target audience for this vehicle. How can this be so hard to understand?
a 300 range would be ideal
Isn't it weird how Ford have no idea what their customers want while you, a random internet guy, knows exactly what would be "ideal"? SMH
Green?
like everything new on the market, give it a few years to get bugs worked out. gasoline engine i have i fill it up once a week. ev may have to be topped off everyday. don't have time for that
It takes one minute to plug in at home, then I sleep.
It is a pity that Ford took as a basis a body from a rear-wheel drive van, it is very convenient for me with a "low floor".
Of course, for a truck, rear-wheel drive is the most correct option ...
Is it going to be a front wheel drive version or a rear wheel drive version with a low floor?
More versions will come, this is just version 1!
I'll buy the Canoo Electric Utility Van
The difference is the Ford E-Transit exists...
@@prndlcars I'm still waiting for somebody to jump in and tell us how the cybertruck outdoes it in X/Y/Z.... 🤣
another big industry crap! We need 500miles range
A Honda genset 12kw on board will kill the range anxiaty.
The 500 mile range is something which will probably come at a later date. Right now, battery cost and weight are the major limiting factors there. So a gas, diesel and quite possibility a hybrid version of the van is available to fill that roll until a 500 mile battery pack is available for the van. The 100 to 150 mile range is what’s on the plate right now.
@@americanrambler4972 our monthly vehicle gas bill is $3000 here in Alberta canada! Gas price is 1.43$/L now! And Alberta is producing 80% of Canadian oil. I m not sure if my business can survive till the 500mile range electric van landed in canada.
@Goat I am fascinated at the wide variety of vans available in Europe. All the way from picnic basket size all the way up to full size lorries and everything in between. And the sheer numbers of them as a proportion of the overall vehicle fleet seems to be huge. You guys are in love with those little things. Except for heavy duty pickups and vans, diesels are not popular here in the States. The smaller vans that are very common in Europe are virtually non existent here. About the smallest vans you see here are the Transit Connect, Ram Promaster City (like Fiat Doblo long wheelbase version) and the Nissan NV 200. And none have the diesel option currently available. A hey are all petrol engine with automatics. I think ford offered a diesel for the transit connect for a short while but it was discontinued. Small diesels for vans are currently a hard sell in the states. If you hop in the way back machine and go back to the late 70’s to the mid 80’s, a number of diesel powered Isuzu P’ups and VW Rabbit pickups were sold, but they were very slow, smoky and stinky. Not all that many were sold. I drove the Isuzu and was extremely disappointed it it’s drivability and performance. They got good mileage, but unless you hated driving and wanted to punish yourself for every mile you drove, you did not own or drive one of those. And you never ever wanted to be stuck behind one in traffic. Their smog and black coal rolling content was something not to experience.
I am anticipating both hybrid and electric van and pickup options will grow here over the next couple of years. But I don’t think diesel hybrids will be offered. The smog exhaust treatment systems are too expensive and they take up to much space in the vehicle.
It’s perfect imo. I’ll be driving one of these this spring in portland. My current commute+work use a day is about 20-60 miles/day.
Good idea for the camper crowd, total non starter for a service van. Even as charging stations become more common, the time required to charge takes it entirely out of consideration. That range is not even close to enough btw. I go to job site sites that can nearly use that entire range one way to the job. Also keep in mind that range estimate is a completely empty van. A service can fully racked out full of stock, tools and ladder rack is a ton of added weight which will significantly diminish that range. I like the idea of this but it’s still a long ways away from being practical.
There are some people who don't drive nearly that far to a job site, though. Longer range versions will come.
@@prndlcars Sure. Some don’t, but most do. Leads me back to questioning who this is really aimed at.
Bigger battery, more range...
I’m a contractor and on a Ford transit. I put about 30,000 miles a year on my Ford transit. I don’t know who they talk to but 125 miles wouldn’t even make me through the day. As a delivery driver I know for a fact they drive more than that per day. I’m not sure how they’re going to sell this as a commercial vehicle with that low miles per gallon
I'm not trying to be unhelpful, but since you said "with that low miles per gallon" makes me think you aren't well versed with EVs or you just let it slip you're still heavily internal-combustion-minded. I guess that's fine, since I don't see ICE Transits going away for a decade, _minimum._
Honestly this is very disappointing. I was excited when the F150 came out and has 370-483 km range. This 200km range but on short wheel base with low roof. That sucks, I need the high roof and the long box, and I’m in Canada will be driving in -40 temperatures. I drive 160-220km a day so this isn’t going to work. This needs a double battery option. Really disappointing I will probably ending up in another diesel sprinter.
It's the first version, basically an E-Transit retrofit with a Mach-E powertrain. Longer battery versions are definitely coming, but gotta give it some time unfortunately. The future is coming, but it's not here yet!
I watched 3 different "reviews " and they all sounded exactly the same, like the "reviewers" were reading from the same script. given by Ford!
Please, I can read the same info from their website. How about YOUR PERSONAL OPINION on how it looks, how it feels, how it sounds, how interesting, how exciting, how impressive or not... Thanks
Mykindofvan
If one goes 400 miles on a charge and has Trip planner so I always see my next charge location and it charges quickly.
one more thing to have to worry about when going on a trip. better think about road service too. where's the help coming from?
i use my transit for dirtbiking. if it had 300-400 mile range i'd trade in immediately
I wonder how many driveshaft recalls it will have. I lost track how many times I had to take my transit in before I was forced to buy a new driveshaft out of my own pocket.
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Ford does not have problem selling products, they have some of the best SOUGHT AFTER VEHICLES... the problem is that Ford is free cash flow POOR, in 2020, from the top 20 vehicle manufacturers, it was in the last place at 47 million in Profit with sales of 155 billion, Toyota was at 19 billion in profits with sales of 225 billions. Why?i ask, if Ford can not keep up with the demand due to a great offering. What are they doing wrong? Let's not even talk about the stock, it is around 20 dollars. FORD selling their vehicles at cost plus .05% (that is about $2000 profit per vehicle sold to dealers) and it does not take into account the cost of warranting the cars for 3 years. Why? Translated , Toyota and the rest can kick our butt anytime if they wanted to by dumping prices and other tactics.
A lot more reserve range would be much appreciated....! (At least 250 miles.) Ford is obviously a lot more mature company than Tesla and so is Toyota.
@1:36, “They sell a ton of them…” A “ton of them” are all ICE Transit that has a range more than the 126 miles range Transit EV. No tradesman will buy the current 126 miles range EV Transit which is good for 1 or 2 service call per day before range anxiety compels the driver to look for a fast DC charging station. Fully charging the EV transit from empty on a 240V charger requires about 6 hours - down time makes no money. Ford is scamming the consumer; it will soon offer a larger battery option giving the Transit EV a respectable range - for extra money. This is the old ‘punishment’ and relief scam.
I could see these having their use in cities or local areas where the travel time is low and congestion being high. For any commute that requires a charge it probably isn't worth it.
"No tradesman will buy the current 126 miles range EV Transit "
Yeah, too bad those amateurs at Ford didn't ask some random people on the internet with opinions before they decided on what range their van should have. Clearly people like you know much better what Ford's customers want than Ford does. Right? SMH
I guess I need to reconsider my employment then. Darn it. I stay booked two months out and stay within a 30 mile radius of the house. In fact, over the past year I've had exactly one job that I would have to charge to make the round trip. We stayed overnight there, so staying at a hotel with complementary charging would fit the bill. Just got on the wait list for the 2023 and cant wait. Even if fuel comes down again, the whole commodity fuel scam has burned this bridge one last time. I'll sit and charge 20-30 mins at a DCFC station while I eat my lunch, catch up on email, send out quotes/invoices, ect.
Unfortunately in the UK the models above 3.5 tons are limited to 56 mph. Not much point having 265hp with such a low top speed. I'll have to stick with diesel!
Yeah, but all that low-end torque is a godsend for getting up to speed! Definite trade off though.
It would help if Ford made it clear which models have which Gross Vehicle Weight. Ford list 3.5, 3.9 and 4.25T versions… is that for each different length or is roof height playing into it? This class of van is never typically over 3.5T (because then it restricts who can drive it), but there’s new legislation in the UK that allows up to 4.25T electric vans to fall into the 3.5T class… And that’s great, because it means we can carry similar payloads to the diesel versions. But the information released so far is really sketchy. And will you be speed-restricted in a 4.25T electric van? And pricing? Considering this van is supposed to start deliveries in a couple of months it’s a poor show from Ford. Love having power outlets on board, but apart from that it’s not blowing my mind compared to the Citroen / Peugeot/ Vauxhall van.
"I'll have to stick with diesel!"
Good luck with that, you have a few years.
Sorry?? 260hp isn’t a lot for a van. What the fuck sort of vans have you been driving. The highest hp I’ve ever heard of in a van is 200 and that’s in a full-size iveco
@3:57, what are you smoking? You’re not getting the Best bang for the buck for the E-Transit that has a range of 125miles. The Transit van can be had in either EV or ICE. If 125 miles is good enough for the Transit EV, why does the Transit ICE have a 30 gal petro tank giving it nearly 400 mile range? Stop kissing Ford’s ass; be honest; come clean. You know 125 miles for a Transit EV is a Ford scam when tradesmen drive more than 125 miles per day.
126 miles per charge, good luck with that.👍
If you only need to drive 75 miles a day...
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We have 7 in my company all drive more than 150 miles a day . No enough range , so maybe in 3-5 years. But not right now , ford could done better.
"The employees will be less tired because the van is quieter"-- lmfao! Oh do I have a bridge to sell you. Sales men never fail to impress on the IQ level of stupidity. 😒 WTF does work have to do with engines that are quiet or not? Most people play music when they drive, so it defeats the purpose to begin with. The only thing EV engines are good for is maintenance/cheaper to charge and better quality of life.
125miles is junk. I would say double it and you would catch the interest of many more trademen. That range is only good if you live and work in the same city. Most tradesmen travel around close surrounding cities at the very least.
Yep, this is a niche product which is good because they have very limited production capacity. Next-gen will go much further, a la the F-150 Lightning which is above 320 miles on the big battery pack.
Yeah, those amateurs at Ford, thinking that they know what their customers want. Silly huh? Clearly they should have asked you, a random internet dude with opinions, before they set the specs for their vans. SMH
the review 100% non walk around ? wth just sit and talk ?
I have owned many E-series. Transit is OK. But this electric is a POS. No range. Air conditioner will suck all the power. For me.....I love gasoline!
"I love gasoline!"
Yeah, because eff the Earth and your children's future, right?
The next ten years are going to be so difficult for you! :D
you're starting to make life MORE complicated. who you gonna call when it has problems while on the road. average mech will not be able to help.
What problems would it have? There are no moving parts, so far fewer things to go wrong. Plus dealer service techs are being retrained.
Pretty sure that catastrophic climate change makes life even more difficult. But screw your children's future as long as you don't have to change, right?
Too low miles range
so basically this van is useless and even more useless when fully loaded as you can maybe make it to your job, but you definitely can't get home :L
It all depends how far away your job is, right? If it’s 30 miles away, is it useless?
No. It is not.
this is Garbage. How about make Hybrid transit van