"Excuse me, I'd like to breathe now ... if that's okay with everyone in the room? I've been holding my breath for 1 minute but no one has said we can breathe freely and on our own yet so I wasn't sure" That day is coming.
2:17 So you can’t use “male language” to describe God??? So “the FATHER, the SON and the Holy Ghost” aren’t male??? Did God not make Adam in His image??? This is not a Christian church. It’s an insane asylum. These people have lost their minds. Edit: kept watching and it got even worse! So much worse!!
It is ironic that the very people who are so adamant that pronouns should be respected reject God by rejecting His pronouns and thumbing their noses at Him.
To "progressives" whatever is fashionable with the Cultural Elites, rather than Scripture, is the highest authority. They simply call their non-biblical ideas "prophetic."
@5:45 "Ask yourself, who's voice have we not heard?" I wonder if anyone there noticed that the voice and presence of God was absent from the discussion.
What a joke! I can't believe anyone would attend that conference and not immediately leave the UMC. I doubt the Holy Spirit was anywhere near that place.
According to the UMC own website, the number of churches/congregations in Indiana has gone from 1550 to 650 since 1998. that is one church closing every 10 days for over the last 24 years. And here is their answer to that.
How appropriate for the African man to be the only one that stood up and said what is going on? He obviously bible believer and you know is hurt by what he is seeing . This is not Christianity it’s humanism
It’s the planned sin that they conveniently dismiss but God doesn’t dismiss the planned sin My grandmother told me that planned sin is in the face of the righteous it’s a hateful hurtful thing you’ll have to answer why you did it and did it again
@CP-dk8oi when you ask Jesus in to your heart you’ll lose that old testament anger The days of sacrifice are over they are were always insufficient Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice for you
I cannot believe I am going to say this. This is the first time I say it. I now understand why God did not allow woman to be pastors or leaders of the church.
I think a lot of people accepted women as pastors because we were in "peacetime," or a culture friendly to Christianity. A pastor was somebody who taught the church and cared for the church. Women can teach and care for people, right? But a pastor is also someone who fights off wolves to protect the sheep. We've found that the vast majority of women would rather accommodate and "include" wolves rather than exclude them.
My Father was an ordained Minster through the United Methodist Church back in 1970. He left the church when he found out how Godless these people are and became a Community Christian Pastor. He retired after serving 40 years.
Thank you, UMC, for providing a comprehensive updating of the 1984 edition of Newspeak, especially regarding its application to theology. Monitoring of expressive language is necessary to limit a speaker's ability to critically think or form any ideas that go against the Party. Kudos to the Kommissars and miniluv (GCORR and BCSRW) for unpersoning Oldcrimethinkers that unbellyfeel UMCsoc.
Definitely NOT what Christ had in mind when he said: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.” But these folks ARE what Christ had in mind when he said: "Depart from me! I never knew you."
I’m 57 and left the UMC with my church 2 years ago. What is crazy is the vote was close. I know how all this began is there a way I can contact you privately?
@CP-dk8oi a church full of misfits and no breeding stock want survive The UMC will start selling churches very soon if not already they’re destined for failure
I share this truth in love: this is antigospel. If you are in a church like this, flee. Pray these "leaders" repent. A video that came to mind while watching this & highly recommend is by a NY Pastor, Carter Conlon, called "Run For Your Life" it is on TH-cam & is a much needed warning.
These fools will not remain social for long. From what the speakers said, during the few days of this conference, monitors already got loaded up with complaints and unsatisfactory comments volunteered by the "faithful". Internal purges surely lie ahead for this lot.
No. His title as Reverend supersede’s his title as a scholar. It was actually the only thing in the whole conference he got correct…he’s going to Hell for the rest though 💩
Such an SNL skit WOULD have been hilarious if society's background understanding of biblical values and normative roles had not been undermined over the years. Used to be that the skit widely would be perceived as parody, and therefore, as funny. No longer, as it would only be met with confusion and offence. Hence, the alleged death of modern comedy does have a basis in fact.
I wouldn't tolerate 5 minutes of this and would be given an F. What would the monitor do with me? How do those that disagree with this noval approach remain in community with these individuals?
As Spencer Smith would say, "The Divine Feminine has risen in the United Methodist Church!!" If you have questions, go watch 3rd Adam I, 3rd Adam II, 3rd Adam III, 3rd Adam III×, and any of the other videos where he deals with this topic. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Revelation 18:4)
This is sickening. So much division, and distraction; all in the name of inclusion. Completely aligning with the confusion and agenda of the adversary, under the guise of "love."
Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Isa 5:14
"Monitoring is not policing." (The monitors found some of you not behaving correctly but you still have to time to change your ways. - Dawn Wiggins Hare)
I fear, Herr Chalet, that you & I may be the only readers of these comments who recognize the name & the significance of "the Stasi." And, you & I may be the persons who also read German & French.
@@auburn886 No doubt, this African delegate was shunned by the rest of the attendees. I am also sure that some peon in the administrative office was severely reprimanded for the clerical error of sending this man plane tickets and official letter enabling him to get a visa.
SUMMARY OF UMC ANNUAL CONFERENCE 2:13 Wow! “Be respectful of the choice of language that is used”…except for God’s preferred pronouns as God the Father and God the Son. Those are NOT to be respected nor honored in our midst. 3:18 Look at that, God isn’t represented in that pie chart at all. It is as though He has no part in the conference. 5:07 …a call to worship themselves…”Church, you get an A”…for rejecting God’s “voice” in Galatians 3:28-29 5:44 “stop and ask yourself whose voice we have not heard”…God’s…you have not heard God’s voice. 7:06 “On the recommendations in the book of discipline” which replaces the outdated Word of God…race, gender and sexual perversion shall guide the selection of persons we nominate to lead the UMC. 10:09 “Friends, history has been made at this conference”…for the sake of fairness of equity, we have marginalized the Creator of all things and all people in order to worship humanity. May Satan and those who follow him/her go to Hell.
Not one Biblical reference for why they're doing this. Zero. If you don't care about what's in the Bible, why do you go to church at all, and why are you at a church conference? Find a social club that meets your needs. A Christian church should have a solid Biblical foundation and everything they do should come out of that foundation.
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Proverbs 6:16-19
45 seconds in and this is identical to those work webinars that exist solely to satisfy the company or organization's compliance obligations and that every employee sleeps through with their eyes open. Who in their right mind would sit through this on a Sunday? Edit: I'm out at 55 seconds. Eyes glazed over.
"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ ''---Matthew 7.
All I heard was me,me & more me. All in selfish reasons. Where was GOD in any of these conversations? We go to church to worship GOD. It’s not about us. It feels like GOD has been taken away from this “church”. I can’t believe what I am hearing. These people want to be inclusive but are excluding GOD. As an orthodox Christian this saddens me to the core. It actually scares me for them .
The world is going to world. Now most of the goats and tares are left in this denomination. So when you drive by a United Methodist Church, just know they are in rebellion and not a biblical Church. If you meet a UMC member, share the gospel for salvation.
Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’ - Matthew 7:21-23
I used to attend a UMC discussion group (not the service, never joined the church). I will never go back. This was disgusting to watch. So patronizing and controlling. I couldn't even stomach watching more than half of it. Pathetic.
And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. John 6:65-66. "Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”Revelation 22:11. If these newly woke rebranded United Methodists persist in their unscriptural ways, then let them simply go their way. That is better than they stick around and metastasize the falling away that is already infecting Christ's church.
It's odd how they divide us with "inclusion."
Odd and ironic!
That is Satan for you. The great counterfeiter. He takes truth and masterfully inverts it.
Agree. Evil is often Orwellian like that
Ironic isn't it?
dead people playing church.
You hit the nail on the head.
Foolish people got to vote them out of our conference as fast as we can
👍
True 😔
This institution is nowhere near God.
Spoiler alert. Not tolerant.
What a weird social club.
Is this for real??? God is God...God is not woke!
Women are leading the way on wokeness.
so you think that Joe Biden is a transman?
The spirit of jezebel.
Women are leading the way away from God and towards evil. Men are foolish and weak when they allow this to happen.
And have been since the days of Eve.
@@sailingaeolus actually adam fell because he trusted Eve more than God...
Holy smokes how do people not get exhausted thinking like this
"Excuse me, I'd like to breathe now ... if that's okay with everyone in the room? I've been holding my breath for 1 minute but no one has said we can breathe freely and on our own yet so I wasn't sure" That day is coming.
@@ADadSupreme breath pronouns please.
Because it’s all they’re good at or care about.
Thinking? When did they do that?
Well this is definitely a religion but it’s not Christianity
2:17 So you can’t use “male language” to describe God??? So “the FATHER, the SON and the Holy Ghost” aren’t male??? Did God not make Adam in His image??? This is not a Christian church. It’s an insane asylum. These people have lost their minds.
Edit: kept watching and it got even worse! So much worse!!
It did not take long. I got disgusted as soon as they explained their monitoring goon squads.
It is ironic that the very people who are so adamant that pronouns should be respected reject God by rejecting His pronouns and thumbing their noses at Him.
It's a cult.
@prairiewolfedogg Oh, me too. Those Jezebels are gonna run that circus like a communist dictator.
To "progressives" whatever is fashionable with the Cultural Elites, rather than Scripture, is the highest authority. They simply call their non-biblical ideas "prophetic."
@5:45 "Ask yourself, who's voice have we not heard?" I wonder if anyone there noticed that the voice and presence of God was absent from the discussion.
African voices - they weren't granted visas
@@russ254agree. That was planned to keep them out. Disgusting.
This is a lot of bondage. Goodness
Reminds me of New Left struggle sessions in the '60s and '70s ...
You're exactly right.
What a joke! I can't believe anyone would attend that conference and not immediately leave the UMC. I doubt the Holy Spirit was anywhere near that place.
If Jesus cannot save these spiritually blind, what makes us think that the O’Jays can?
Inclusion for everything BUT the truth and real love.
and Africans - the African Universal Methodists were denied paperwork to get visas so they couldn't participate.
I have only one identity, I only need one identity - I AM A CHILD OF GOD!
Is this a Saturday Night Live skit?
UMC motto - “Big Xister is watching”
More like Twisted Xister 😋
😂
@@prairiewolfedogg 😉😆🤣
Remember.... The monitors are watching....
This is real. This actually happens inside the Methodist church.
When all the sheep leave, All you have left is goats.
The goats will be on the left hand. The sheep on the right. It's plain where the goats end up.
And they worship the god that has the head of a horned goat.
These wolves think they're trans-sheep. Lord, have mercy on us.
Did I miss something? I didn’t hear Jesus Christ name or anything thing about him????
When you feel you must tell people you're an adult.... you are not.
So is there any room for the true gospel in this church. These people pretend to play church.
According to the UMC own website, the number of churches/congregations in Indiana has gone from 1550 to 650 since 1998. that is one church closing every 10 days for over the last 24 years. And here is their answer to that.
feeling reassured when they remind us " remember friends, that monitoring is not policing ..." (1:50)
In churchy language, I would say that this is σκατά αλόγου!
How appropriate for the African man to be the only one that stood up and said what is going on? He obviously bible believer and you know is hurt by what he is seeing .
This is not Christianity it’s humanism
The Bible calls it “worldiness”. And it makes whoever indulges an enemy of God.
@@blynkers1411 well the Jesus I know loves everybody
They define god as the forgiver of everyone and anything
Ephesians 6:12-20 wide road narrow gate
It’s the planned sin that they conveniently dismiss but God doesn’t dismiss the planned sin
My grandmother told me that planned sin is in the face of the righteous it’s a hateful hurtful thing you’ll have to answer why you did it and did it again
@@keithjohnson7613 Sure thing, "Keith." You seem so knowledgeable about God and the Bible. Tell us more.
@CP-dk8oi when you ask Jesus in to your heart you’ll lose that old testament anger
The days of sacrifice are over they are were always insufficient Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice for you
Wesley would weep in sackcloth and ashes
monitoring is not policing.-- if you see something say something. --give yourself applause.
When totalitarianism masquerades as benificence.
I cannot believe I am going to say this. This is the first time I say it. I now understand why God did not allow woman to be pastors or leaders of the church.
I think a lot of people accepted women as pastors because we were in "peacetime," or a culture friendly to Christianity. A pastor was somebody who taught the church and cared for the church. Women can teach and care for people, right? But a pastor is also someone who fights off wolves to protect the sheep. We've found that the vast majority of women would rather accommodate and "include" wolves rather than exclude them.
@@WokePreacherClips very well said. This is a great analogy.
I’m a woman and I wholeheartedly agree.
I listened to this while taking a shower. I feel like I need another shower
This is insane
The delegate from Liberia must have caused the meter to explode.
I'm sure he was dealt with swiftly by a brown shirt bishop and will never be heard from again.
My Father was an ordained Minster through the United Methodist Church back in 1970. He left the church when he found out how Godless these people are and became a Community Christian Pastor. He retired after serving 40 years.
Thank you, UMC, for providing a comprehensive updating of the 1984 edition of Newspeak, especially regarding its application to theology.
Monitoring of expressive language is necessary to limit a speaker's ability to critically think or form any ideas that go against the Party.
Kudos to the Kommissars and miniluv (GCORR and BCSRW) for unpersoning Oldcrimethinkers that unbellyfeel UMCsoc.
That was double plus good!!!
@@tomm7505 UMC makes it so easy! 😂
Beautifully stated.
What the heck was all that?....EVIL
Definitely NOT what Christ had in mind when he said: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.” But these folks ARE what Christ had in mind when he said: "Depart from me! I never knew you."
I’m 57 and left the UMC with my church 2 years ago.
What is crazy is the vote was close.
I know how all this began is there a way I can contact you privately?
@CP-dk8oi a church full of misfits and no breeding stock want survive
The UMC will start selling churches very soon if not already they’re destined for failure
Make a video!
Please share what you know here or in a video
I share this truth in love: this is antigospel. If you are in a church like this, flee. Pray these "leaders" repent. A video that came to mind while watching this & highly recommend is by a NY Pastor, Carter Conlon, called "Run For Your Life" it is on TH-cam & is a much needed warning.
I hate to be pessimistic but this level of delusion indicates a hardness of heart that has long since rejected God in favor of itself.
Amen.
"Run Forrest!"
5:58 my lone Man trying to hold things down
Poor guy
Nothing more then a social club. I've never been so glad to be an outcast in all my life.
These fools will not remain social for long. From what the speakers said, during the few days of this conference, monitors already got loaded up with complaints and unsatisfactory comments volunteered by the "faithful". Internal purges surely lie ahead for this lot.
"Reverend Doctor" means that he has an honorary doctorate, not an actual degree
No. His title as Reverend supersede’s his title as a scholar. It was actually the only thing in the whole conference he got correct…he’s going to Hell for the rest though 💩
Truly the cringiest thing I’ve ever seen.
This would make for a hilarious SNL skit if the “Dr. Rev.” had a new and more flamboyant outfit on every time the two of them were up front 😂
Such an SNL skit WOULD have been hilarious if society's background understanding of biblical values and normative roles had not been undermined over the years. Used to be that the skit widely would be perceived as parody, and therefore, as funny. No longer, as it would only be met with confusion and offence. Hence, the alleged death of modern comedy does have a basis in fact.
They’ve been given over and they dove right in… the amount of just pure cultural backsliding is astounding.
I wouldn't tolerate 5 minutes of this and would be given an F. What would the monitor do with me? How do those that disagree with this noval approach remain in community with these individuals?
As Spencer Smith would say, "The Divine Feminine has risen in the United Methodist Church!!"
If you have questions, go watch 3rd Adam I, 3rd Adam II, 3rd Adam III, 3rd Adam III×, and any of the other videos where he deals with this topic.
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Revelation 18:4)
This level of monitoring would make the old Soviet Communist Bloc countries proud
I was never against female pastors but look what they are doing to this church.
It clearly says in the bible that women shouldn't be preachers
A bunch of goofballs on their way to Hell. What a shame.
Female pastor to queer affirming pipeline is undefeated...
This is sickening. So much division, and distraction; all in the name of inclusion. Completely aligning with the confusion and agenda of the adversary, under the guise of "love."
Even if you say "my church is not like that " you still fund it ! Sad day umc.
I left the Lutheran ELCA because of this and went to a UMC church and found a swap sex club so I left.
When you leave Christ and go full Nazi.
Unreal
Once they start introducing themselves by their pronoun and artificial racial hierarchy we know they stand with the world.
Financed By Blackrock.
I've also wondered how deeply the Freemasons have infiltrated the church. They do that to try and destroy churches.
I guess it's a good thing that Hell is inclusive
Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Isa 5:14
SODOM AND GOMORRAH😂😅 IS WAVING
I thought they were bad.... but they are WAY worse than I envisioned. Thank God I am no longer a part of that abomination.
"Monitoring is not policing." (The monitors found some of you not behaving correctly but you still have to time to change your ways. - Dawn Wiggins Hare)
This is insanity.
“Monitors”? What is that, the Stasi?
"If you see something, say something".. what the ffff???
I fear, Herr Chalet, that you & I may be the only readers of these comments who recognize the name & the significance of "the Stasi." And, you & I may be the persons who also read German & French.
Stasi, Gestapo, KGB take your pick. If you see something say something... freaky stuff.
I hate to think what they did to that delegate from Liberia!
@@auburn886 No doubt, this African delegate was shunned by the rest of the attendees. I am also sure that some peon in the administrative office was severely reprimanded for the clerical error of sending this man plane tickets and official letter enabling him to get a visa.
SUMMARY OF UMC ANNUAL CONFERENCE
2:13 Wow! “Be respectful of the choice of language that is used”…except for God’s preferred pronouns as God the Father and God the Son. Those are NOT to be respected nor honored in our midst.
3:18 Look at that, God isn’t represented in that pie chart at all. It is as though He has no part in the conference.
5:07 …a call to worship themselves…”Church, you get an A”…for rejecting God’s “voice” in Galatians 3:28-29
5:44 “stop and ask yourself whose voice we have not heard”…God’s…you have not heard God’s voice.
7:06 “On the recommendations in the book of discipline” which replaces the outdated Word of God…race, gender and sexual perversion shall guide the selection of persons we nominate to lead the UMC.
10:09 “Friends, history has been made at this conference”…for the sake of fairness of equity, we have marginalized the Creator of all things and all people in order to worship humanity.
May Satan and those who follow him/her go to Hell.
They obviously are playing with the wrong spirits. This is outrageous!!!!
Not one Biblical reference for why they're doing this. Zero. If you don't care about what's in the Bible, why do you go to church at all, and why are you at a church conference? Find a social club that meets your needs. A Christian church should have a solid Biblical foundation and everything they do should come out of that foundation.
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 6:16-19
They are so full of themselves
They are hyper woke. 💀🤡
how absurd - FOOLS
Beyond parody
I'm sure the word HELL is forbidden.
Of course it is. Who would want to spend eternity in an outdated, narrow-minded theological construct?
Lord have mercy 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️!
45 seconds in and this is identical to those work webinars that exist solely to satisfy the company or organization's compliance obligations and that every employee sleeps through with their eyes open. Who in their right mind would sit through this on a Sunday?
Edit: I'm out at 55 seconds. Eyes glazed over.
They strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
I would love to hear how did the church did in terms of evangelism & discipleship. How many people were reach by gospel of Christ and was baptized.
This is truly not the gospe
God’s not dead, but the United Methodist Church is.
Former lifelong United Methodist.
UMC -1, Southern Baptist +1
So this is what happens when you separate the wheat from the chaff?
"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ ''---Matthew 7.
This is how it starts. I don't even wanna entertain how it will proceed. At least I know how it will end...
If I had attended, I would have felt like I was a child being talked down to. "Now, children...pay attention!"
All I heard was me,me & more me. All in selfish reasons. Where was GOD in any of these conversations? We go to church to worship GOD. It’s not about us. It feels like GOD has been taken away from this “church”. I can’t believe what I am hearing. These people want to be inclusive but are excluding GOD. As an orthodox Christian this saddens me to the core. It actually scares me for them .
Focus on things that matter most vs THIS NONSENSE.
The world is going to world.
Now most of the goats and tares are left in this denomination.
So when you drive by a United Methodist Church, just know they are in rebellion and not a biblical Church.
If you meet a UMC member, share the gospel for salvation.
Monitors, Dear Jesus help these people wake up.
Not one word about what the word of God says.
Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
- Matthew 7:21-23
they have lost their minds
I used to attend a UMC discussion group (not the service, never joined the church). I will never go back. This was disgusting to watch. So patronizing and controlling. I couldn't even stomach watching more than half of it. Pathetic.
The UMC secret police. What a joke.
This is not from God.
disgusting......... this makes me scared for our world.
This seems to have little to do with the gospel
This could be a scene from what a typical day in Hell might look like.
Goats playing church. This church is preparing its allotment of tares for the Tribulation.
Makes my head want to explode.
How deceived can one be😢
And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”
After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. John 6:65-66.
"Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”Revelation 22:11.
If these newly woke rebranded United Methodists persist in their unscriptural ways, then let them simply go their way. That is better than they stick around and metastasize the falling away that is already infecting Christ's church.
The UMC has gone to hell even deeper than before.
This was wild. I can’t believe what the Methodist Church has become.