The TURBO DIESEL Swapped 240Z Didn't Last... Lucky Break?
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- The Turbo Diesel 240z is already broken.... But don't worry, we fixed it.
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Lucky doesn't even come close! One bolt broken, Another one walked out and dove into the pump gear? And... it's all on top? Karma was kind! Plus, You had a replacement gear on hand! You guys have used up all your guys luck for the next decade or so. Take it easy for a while!
18:40 You guys don't know what real fear is until you have done a chain in the original L motor for the Z car 😁
The spring loaded, non-retained tensioner can pop out at any moment and there you are pulling the sump and front cover off.
Great to get some knowledge like you said!
love the detail in these photo's appreciate seeing the right tools being used!
😯 you’re for sure lucky. Glad you’re gonna fix her up and her back in service.
Ready to see this thing turned up
This grenade was doing everything it could to KA-BOOM! Love this build, guys.
That damaged bolt looked like it had no locking device or loctite to hold it in. When damage was first mentioned I thought, well something in the drive train has let go.
I'm going to say 100 psi it's a very strong engine 💪and then probably just blow the head gasket!! I'm sure we will see in time and im going with 1 time pull estimate!!
The block can actually take 73.5psi before failure which is crazy. But its true. A very reputable Mercedes diesel tuner in Europe has extensively tested the 606 and thats its block failure point.
65.4psi
Keep It up! love how this came out!
Loving the build so far! As for the max boost, probably about 60-70 lbs would do it.
As long as your EGT’s don’t melt it down I think it’s good for 60psi in short bursts 😉
The block can actually take 73.5psi before failure which is crazy. But its true. A very reputable Mercedes diesel tuner in Europe has extensively tested the 606 and thats its block failure point.
I wish I was that lucky working on cars
Holy hell, you don't have to use so much 277!
Loctite does not fair well with major oil contamination. The lock wire approach would suffice.
This makes me want a bigger turbo for my om606
That OM606 beast can take 55 psi any day :D
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there is different red loctite. do a bit of poking in a napa chem book.
I'm disappointed in Devin, can't believe he wasted beer! 😂
God bless your luck
Were they single use bolts that were reused?
As far as I can tell from the very limited information google could provide. The single use bolts have a stepped down neck, which none of ours had, that’s where I would expect to see the failure, and the only broken bolt broke about 3/16” from the end, so it was already backed out quite a bit
so lucky
Max. Boost being 65 psi.
Hopefully
What motor is this?
69lbs of boost to blow
Y'all know any graffiti artists? That BDE could be a way more aesthetic backdrop for filming. Might be nicer for you guys to look at too, lol
80 psi would most likely do it
I'm pretty sure putting that much loctite or anything on the bolt or in the threads iti changes torque if it's just good and clean and a dab of it idk I could be wrong
True. Lube changes the torque needed to achieve a given bolt stretch and load. If the hole isn't blind the excess just comes out. If the hole is blind the hydraulic pressure can break castings. :O
@@Joshie2256 luckily it’s not a blind hole, also excessive loctite could definitely have caused us to over torque on accident, thus the broken bolt.
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20:05 - 20:45 NEEDS a dedicated replay button.
Fools. You forgot to slap the gears and say, "well that's not going anywhere!" Now it's going to go somewhere.
You boys need to put an electric lift pump in the tank for those insta-starts
Man that Datsun is giving you issues let me take it off your hands I got 5 bucks I can spare 😂 I love it
Blue loctite: I may want to move this at some point. Red Locktite: Fuck the future, this bitch aint moving.
I think this is the first time I've seen you actually dodge a bullet. Can't wait for the power episode.
50psi or bust! Those cam gear bolts need a few ugga dugga! Lol
Love to build, keep it up 🤘🏻
You guys were lucky with that bolt!
You must be hitting the algorithm because I’ve never heard of you before a couple days ago, that car is SICK though 🤢 👍🏼
max boost on blowing that thing really depends on your drive pressure.. which really depends on your AR number on your turbos exhaust side. should do 55psi intake tho.. soo around that exhaust. but prob 45 with your hx40.
Safety wire seems like a good idea here
They broke, titanium bolts would be on my agenda....
@@EZ-D-FIANT titanium bolts are much weaker than high tensile strength steel.
As a rule yes but I've heard rolled threads (as used in aircraft) allow a stronger shear factor at the thread, depending on the way the bolt broke would dictate the next grade, I watched this in the background but saw thread damage not a snap I may be wrong and definitely agree a type 8 for example at the same size is stronger but the thread strength is a whole other thing (I'm no specalist it's just what I've picked up from smarter people them myself I'm open to being wrong)!
Maybe some movement was to blame but that would usually snap not de-thread, it's an unusual and very lucky thing he experienced, my bet would be that it's a closed hole and he used too much lock which put excess pressure on the threads but like o said I vaguely watched this it was a first on my recommendation I love what I'm seeing and will watch more for sure but right now I'll admit I'm guessing as to the ins and outs of this exact install!
@@EZ-D-FIANT you didn't watch the video closely. The end of the bolt snapped off, which was caused by the bolts backing out. Titanium would not fix either of these failures. Aerospace applications use titanium for two reasons: weight and corrosion. Strength is not one of them. Sure, rolled threads help but high strength steel is stronger, and inside a diesel engine weight and corrosion are not a problem.
Yer I know I didn't I'll sit down and binge watch all these properly later I did say I was open to being wrong and unsure....
Lovely chain work, learn a lot every time you put out new videos. Still love the W124 in the background, let's see some videos on that, too, please.
It’s coming, I’m just an asshole and decided to slap fender flares on it and prep it for a repaint. The guys all hate me now and Jp didn’t want to film bodywork all day lol. But I’m about to start my engine rebuild this coming week, so expect content shortly.
Boosted shades rock. Need to buy more to support the build
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Oh my goodness this is such a cool build.
Been binging all the videos again to learn more about it - you guys are really good at explaining the technical shit in an easy way (much appreciated)
With that big old thing I'm assuming probably 70lbs of boost to make the thing pop 😂 please don't do that lol
That chain tool... I love tools like that and every time I can get one or make a custom tool I have skip in my step that last a good week. My pocket book might not love it but my toolboxes do.
I've seen an OM606 blow at 4.2bar of boost and it was rather messy.
You guys need to put some dogdarn aerospace style lockwire on those bolts!!
60 psi would be impressive, sometimes motors will surprise you.
It is very possible with Mercedes diesel engines
This wrap looks so classy. Way better than the chameleon
I'm really glad this wasn't a catastrophic failure. Keep up the great work my brothers
The second it gets fixed: Boost page up!
Code brown for sure
The "MAX" amount of boost to blow it up? Infinity PSI :P
Just wind it up until it blows, then back it off a smidge .
Also works great for finding max timing.
Glad you guys got lucky...this time !
50lbs of Boost ...these OM 606's are stout...but there's a limit !
Remember my 1998 E300D OM 606 is still for sale in Craigslist Eugene, Or. if you need a replacement.
Fab a ring with locking tabs for those 3 cam sprocket bolts and forget about the loctite goop.
This. I’ve seen it on dirt bike front sprockets
I know people who have run 4.4bar of boost on these engines, but be aware of the back pressure and the egt's, thats what kills these engines :o but you guyes have been lucky tho :p
I'm going to go ahead and say 58 lbs of boost. I'm currently running 10 lbs through my 3.2L Acura V6 in my 01 Accord and it's making around 500 whp.
The block can actually take 73.5psi before failure which is crazy. But its true. A very reputable Mercedes diesel tuner in Europe has extensively tested the 606 and thats its block failure point.
Usually om606 block will crack at 73ish psi (5bar) and at 78psi (5.4) gets splitted by the middle of the clynder
I thought I was lucky when I had the narrow Jam nut holding my nitrous nozzle on my Husaberg 570 Snowbike loosen off and fall vertically down onto the intake valve when I shut the bike off. When I went to start the bike next, it cranked over and then stopped. Upon pulling the head off, the narrow nut had compressed on the piston ever so slightly and there was ZERO piston, cylinder wall, valve and valve seat damage. Incredibly lucky!
62 psi.. but don't blow it up. Give it to me because I'd absolutely LOVE that car! Wanted one for ever with big power AND fuel economy 😎
I think the max boost for this may be around 60 like you were saying! Where would it blow up? I say 62 PSI would be the blow up point! I hope it doesn't blow up though, I absolutely love this build! No LS, no Coyote, no Hemi. Nothing typical. This build is the exact reason why I subscribed! I love it yall!
Just cryogenic treatment for £250 on loads of parts , strength increase up to 35% , seriously . Great build by the way , a thing of beauty ( to me at least ) well done and good luck . next mod should be SUBARU x 4 drive train , or m5 1990,s 4 x or Quattro . maybe next year boys . great channel !
First time at your channel. I refurbished a 1972 240Z in the late 80s, and I thought it was a great car. Your diesel is a cool project. I love the video presentation and the editing; straight to the point, technically detailed, no time-wasting BS.
L/S
I miss my '71 240Z and my '96 Ram 2500 Cummins with all the Banks equipment. I love I6s. You've put together a car I would love to own.
This is my favorite resto mod in existence.
Glad I stumbled onto your channel, great content and I guessing it will blow up at 52 psi! …but I hope you don’t blow it up!
Thanks for sharing,
DC
I can’t wait for you guys to blow up..keep on keeping on
I feel y’all I had a cheap turbo explode 🤯 on my om606 somehow it didn’t toast the motor now have a new borgwarner s366 turbo setup with a twin scroll manifold driving around like nothing happened ✌️✌️
Every once in awhile, I youtube search "240z turbo", and then sort by most recent- to see what new turbo Z videos are out there.
At the top of my list recently was yay, turbo diesel 240z is dun!
And now theres a new video at the top of the list: "Welp. that didnt last long"
@ 20:12 it feels like its in hyper drive
Man, you guys were lucky to get off that easy! That Mercedes chain link tool is slicker than snot on a glass doorknob! Gotta have the right stuff if you don't want to tear down the whole engine. If it was mine, I wouldn't push more than 30-35 lbs. if you want it to last a while. It runs too nice to trash it right away. You got lucky on the broken cam gear bolts *this time.* I'd really like to see what it will do on a proper road course!😉👍
Now you need to build a 3.80 2JZ. Just get the stroker crank and the right bore to equal exactly 3.8 L. That would fit a 380z a lot better. If at all possible.
Very lucky this time, it's strange there is nothing in the way of lock washers or similar in that place.
I guess that engine can take up to 60psi of boost, but does it destroy the transmission or rear end before it blows itself, I think it will.
I only use red locktight! And if that won't due, it's time to tie up some bolts.
My luck has always been the opposite of you guys tho. Ive had a time or two with hardware coming loose while running' except it made contact with every fucking conceivable surface and spinny bit on its way to the bottom!
Max boost number? It will be 1psi under what you gents set it at because...well...cars. Kaboom! Loving the build
Holy shit! That is lucky!!! Awesome stuff man! Hopefully it dont happen again. And is this really a 10k engine?
I'm sure anything above 65 will do something.. I've seen your efforts and honestly think 73 does her...😆
I watched every bullshit ad on this vid in its entirety. Now TH-cam probably thinks I care about eyeshadow and shit. Don’t say I haven’t contributed to the Rainy Day fund!
Atleast it didn't kiss valves,my guess 65psi would probably blow it in heigher rpm cuz the torque would be nasty
I would probably just buy a pair of your sunglasses, but I want to know the colour of the lense. Or be able to spec it to the lense colour that I prefer, in the frame that I prefer...
Nothing got dicked that bad, that’s the best you can hope for in any build. ABSOLUTELY.
Turn the Crescent wrench around the right way please....
So glad to the outcome of that wasn't to bad! Are you going to wire the bolts on the cam? I think it would be good to like 60psi. It won't like it, but i bet it could do it. I was reading they are good for like 40psi before you start thinking about headstuds and a proper head gasket.
60psi for sure. Great car guys! Truly inspiring!
I was planning on a VW TDI for my next project car, but you guys may have sold me on the OM606!
Go buy a lottery ticket boys!
I can’t wait to see what it makes on the dyno
Man this thing looks squirrely as all get out, but I’m saying at 63lbs boost that head is going to float, or fly right off the block! Which will be cool to see….but also sad
Nice to see the Datsun 240ztr is back up and running, id say the car might possibly take 62psi before it starts to let go, 68 psi before it lets go
Don’t you dare give up if it breaks but a little more humour and you guys being yourselves in the videos would probably help your views i’m not saying you’re not being yourself I’m just saying it seems the channels that let it all hang out get really big
Jesus christ be careful with all that loctite lmao
You know you only need to put a dab of it on the first few threads and as you fasten the bolt it will spread the Loctite over all of the threads. You can actually hydrolock your bolt if you use too much and while you think it's torqued down, it might not be because it's fighting the pressure at the bottom of the hole?
I think all the boost would blow it up..
I want my Audi TDI to boost like that! Too bad it was one of the diesel gate ones, and I cant roll coal haha! Awesome work guys!
Very lucky. What you can and should do as you have a lock wire is drill a hole on all the 3 bolts and lockwire all of the together.
Issue with loctite is that if there is oil in the thread hole it won't lock.
How did it even happen that the bolts came loose? Were they not tightened to factory torque setting or what was the reason? Would be good to know to .. uhm .. avoid such a situation, if possible.
No offense but there’s a reason why you shouldn’t put locktite on bolts like the cam gear expansion screws. I bet with you guys that in the repair manual it says no oil or any type of locktite and especially in that huuuuuge amounts.
Possibly 62psi would make a great video though. Just ashame you've not a spare needing a rebuild to try it on lol.
Use lock tight on all bolts that has high revs and vibration on that bolt....some thing I learn..yes is hard get off but won't break while having fun or racing.
Holy shit, i got an OM606 sittin in my driveway. Just extract it or tow it. Contact me. Am in utah. Straight shot from san diego
From the few i've seen pushed really hard, 75-80psi is when the block fails.
Nice video. I just don't understand why you have a crescent wrench in your tool box.....🙈
I love to see that I’m not the only person that shit like this happens to😂
I don’t think I want to see that scenario play out. Over engineering pays off! I love that color wrap!!!