Sampler trick: Steve Reich/William Basinski style phase shifting loops (Digitakt/Model Samples)

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  • This video is Part 1 in a series about Generative Music.
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    This video explains a neat little sampler trick that lets you create music by ignoring a sampler’s sequencer.
    In the early 60’s groundbreaking composer Steve Reich (www.stevereich.com/) pioneered the technique of using different length tape loops (and later musical patterns) in composition. The idea is that two short loops, either identical but one slightly shorter than the other, or completely different, drift in and out of phase to create textures, patterns and rhythms that weren’t there before. This tape loop technique is used by William Basisnki ( • William Basinski - Cas... ) to create wonderful sonic soundscapes, and in the lovely “Walkman Symphony” by Amulets ( • AMBIENT WALKMAN SYMPHO... ). Also check out more multi-tape ambience from Hainbach: • C45 #1 | Lo-Fi Ambient...
    In this video I replicate the experience digitally by using a little trick which ignores the sequencer on modern day samplers, in order to create similar multi-length loop textures and patterns.
    It turns out some samplers (like Elektron Digitakt and Model:Samples shown in this video) will let sample-loops play continuously, regardless of whether the sequencer is active or not . As long as you DON’T use the built-in sequencer to retrigger the samples, and you create different length loops, the samples will loop in and out of phase with each other and recreate the phasing tape loop experience quite nicely. In these particular samplers, all the effects and LFOs are still fully functional despite the sequencer not running, so you can use them while your loops are running.
    A huge thanks to Yehezkel Raz for turning me on to these composers and for playing the sample you hear in the Digitakt portion of this beautiful Danksi song:
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    TIMELINE:
    0:00 Intro
    0:50 The first loop
    1:25 Phased 2nd loop
    2:10 Adding texture
    2:30 Adding an LFO
    3:50 More loops...
    4:00 Playing with levels
    4:45 Adding effects
    5:25 Rhythmic phasing
    7:35 More ideas
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  • @allrain
    @allrain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Man this is mega. You're like a huge combination of an inspiring artist, a skilled musician, and a proficient teacher. Thank you!!

    • @Ian-gw2vx
      @Ian-gw2vx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With a HUGE bank account!

    • @kenfusion
      @kenfusion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perfectly said . I will second this . But only after lowering it an Octave, and changing the stop and start point . Excellent video .

  • @RajaSandhu
    @RajaSandhu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I had one day left on my Digitakt 30 day trial from the music shop, so I packed everything back up nicely, was on my way to go return it when I saw this video open on a browser tab and hit play with the box in hand. Happy to say I am doing my second unboxing of the Digitakt and will keep it, thanks to you.

  • @jonaseggen2230
    @jonaseggen2230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I heard several, (8?) pianos play a piece by Steve Reich once, where they did this out of phase thing. Really impressive that they manage to play the "wrong" speed right for, I don't know, ages. Wizardry basically. What was extra fun though was the noise from the traffic outside that every now and then came through adding a tiny bit of John Cage, and then in the huge windows we could se warped and mirrored reflections of the citylife that looked like the kind of arty filming that you can find in documentaries about minimalists and such from that time.

  • @northerncatto
    @northerncatto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    That first piano loop reminds me of the first track on Music for Airports.
    Good, simple technique. Thanks!

    • @benmironmd
      @benmironmd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NorthernCat definitely hear that

    • @LutraSound
      @LutraSound 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Steve Reich - Piano Phase

    • @LouisSerieusement
      @LouisSerieusement 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yeah same here, I took so much nap over music for airport XD love Eno

    • @cdotburg
      @cdotburg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was thinking aisatsana by aphex twin

    • @hereisacomment4u
      @hereisacomment4u 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

  • @DK-qe6uo
    @DK-qe6uo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It’s insane to me how much you know intimately about every device you share on this channel. I’ve learned so much thank you!

  • @simonlittlebass
    @simonlittlebass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I could listen to that ambient piano loop all day 😌

  • @cesarperez-cardenas97
    @cesarperez-cardenas97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love my Digitakt. I was so frustrated with it at first, but got the hang of it little by little; now I LOVE it. Thanks for the video and ideas!

  • @red13emerald
    @red13emerald 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Very cool idea! This also works on the Volca Sample and the OP-Z.
    On the volca, you have to play a sample, hold it and only then set the decay to 127 to get infinite decay. And Loop has to be on, of course.
    On the OP-Z, holding the track button and turning the blue dial all the way up will make sure a note is held once played, and turning the green dial to 3 will enable looping on sample tracks.

    • @red13emerald
      @red13emerald 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ElLocoArtaud no, you use the same sample in two slots, but in each slot you set slightly different speed or length

    • @marcelinesnodgrass1095
      @marcelinesnodgrass1095 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      does this work on the op-1 or just the opz

    • @red13emerald
      @red13emerald 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Devin Snodgrass yes, the OP1 can kinda do this as well. In the drum sampler, set two notes to have the same parameters (in point, pitch etc.) except for the out point and voila. I don’t know how one could drone properly, I don’t have an op1.

    • @Lobbogurke
      @Lobbogurke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice thanks I will try that! It's always nice to get more out of the voclas

    • @iqi616
      @iqi616 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@red13emerald thanks for this tip

  • @philpaintsstuff
    @philpaintsstuff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, you’ve just brought the Digitakt back into the frame for me, think I’ve definitely settled on an Elektron! Thanks for the heads up about the video last week!

  • @AdnanAlsannaa
    @AdnanAlsannaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is easily my favorite vid from this channel

  • @duncandempster3848
    @duncandempster3848 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you for this excellent and timely video (your video demos and tutorials in general are excellent). As it happens, after much internal debate I just splurged on the digitakt, and this totally aligns with my desired workflow and aesthetic. Very encouraging!

  • @Hut-181
    @Hut-181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch videos like this then just stare into the middle distance and contemplate how I might unblow my mind.. This one will take a good long while. Thank you so much!

  • @johncaccioppo1142
    @johncaccioppo1142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is funny, I've been recommended this video for almost a year and only got around to watching it because you mentioned it in the last video. Outstanding work, teaching these birds to fly, Ziv.

  • @RichardOlpin
    @RichardOlpin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Brilliant Ziv. As is usually the case with your videos, this opened my eyes to something I'd never have thought of on the Digitakt.
    If I end up pulling an all-nighter off down an ambient rabbit hole tonight it's all your fault!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks! I take fully responsibility for the ensuing pleasure in doing so ;)

  • @DopamineOverload
    @DopamineOverload 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thing with the Digitakt was dope as HELL. Seriously. And how you just threw that together. Genius. Absolutely genius.

  • @zerozeroisland
    @zerozeroisland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is so wonderful! I had no idea you could set the decay to infinite on Digitakt.
    Thanks so much for this!

  • @nathanricker1
    @nathanricker1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Works like a charm with the euro Bitbox as well. Much appreciated, as always.

  • @soundlab7755
    @soundlab7755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The rhythmic phasing part is amazing! It sounds so good and the bass complements it so nicely. I'm definitely going to play around with this technique.

    • @cloudrun654
      @cloudrun654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, really great sounds in this video.

  • @JA-gt8cr
    @JA-gt8cr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my favorite videos! If anyone is interested in this sort of (out of) phased looping but with much longer samples the Tsunami Wav Trigger is a great option. There are also ways to combine loops that are intended to stay in sync with those you want to go out of phase.

  • @spiddlemyfiddle
    @spiddlemyfiddle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    well that's just about the most beautiful tutorial i've ever seen. thanks mate. need to get one of those digitakts

  • @dwdougherty
    @dwdougherty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great tips here, Loopop! Thank you.

  • @CO5MA
    @CO5MA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:09 I got shivers 🤩

  • @moose1689
    @moose1689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Damn. Had almost convinced myself not needing the dikitakt.

    • @anakamhi7097
      @anakamhi7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The GAS is real 😂

  • @donaldpriola1807
    @donaldpriola1807 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an inspiring video! Thanks for sharing a technique I hadn't thought of trying with the Digitakt!

  • @strangersun7721
    @strangersun7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well that's going right in the "favorites" folder. Lovely stuff. Thanks for sharing your process.

  • @comesect
    @comesect 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been doing this for years in different ways...now I gotta check out this digitakt, thanks.

  • @BharathKumarIyer
    @BharathKumarIyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic! Thanks for talking about tape loops as a method. Looking forward to playing around free-time based loops on all my digital machines.

  • @monomakes
    @monomakes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the knowledge! Steve Reich FTW! 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @michaelkonomos
    @michaelkonomos ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous. Creative and expressive. Wonderful video.

  • @duende300000
    @duende300000 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i LOVE these shenanigans. THANKS so much

  • @goolobungi2943
    @goolobungi2943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting Idea,
    Thanks for your digitakt videos, it helps me see more in the instrument

  • @crimsonking90
    @crimsonking90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing final loop

  • @gearpunk9632
    @gearpunk9632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've just tried this. Thanks a lot for the inspiration. Your vids are great!

  • @billsoraparu9673
    @billsoraparu9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I’m convinced that the Digitakt will be my next purchase. Very informative video Loopop!! Nicely done!!

  • @jeitoots
    @jeitoots 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So simple yet so wonderful.

  • @robjames5009
    @robjames5009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last loop is soo goooodddd! Want that as a full track :)

  • @stephennapolitano
    @stephennapolitano 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Production TH-cam needs more content like this. Amazing work and under 10 minutes.

  • @tweakmygroovebox608
    @tweakmygroovebox608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous idea- I love the possibilities this opens for evolving ambient sounds. I guess you could also sequence using conditional triggers with different bar lengths too. Nice.

  • @Lcrymlgy
    @Lcrymlgy ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been incredibly inspiring, I think it might just be the thing that helps me get back in to it

  • @simonpanrucker
    @simonpanrucker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the bird track! Beautiful sounds :) Nice effect with the pitch of the birds modulating too!

  • @vr4ever645
    @vr4ever645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best synth channel hands down!

  • @MrCowfood
    @MrCowfood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes. I suggest as a follow up perhaps looper pedal exploration. Sound on sound n such.

  • @shaunmorganuk21
    @shaunmorganuk21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Definitely going to try this on the OT!

  • @Benboe
    @Benboe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video and very inspiring! I love how you can be so creative with elektron boxes without the sequencer.

  • @thestourvalleysynthesizerc6543
    @thestourvalleysynthesizerc6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. And very relaxing, too!

  • @eckharteric
    @eckharteric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did a whole four channel sound installation using this kind of looping technique and with some help from overbridge. It’s a very underrated use for the digitakt!

  • @hvrcat
    @hvrcat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great idea and a good reminder how useful it is to get out of the typical gear usage box.

    • @simononutube
      @simononutube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      needto just thinking exactly this as I am in a bit of a rut at the moment. This will pull me out!

  • @milk_bath
    @milk_bath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh snap, that twist and pan out at the start!

  • @BuildertheButcher
    @BuildertheButcher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I will go and buy a digitakt tomorrow. Your tutorials just make it better and better

  • @tylerevans1700
    @tylerevans1700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was incredible man..

  • @PankajChoudhury
    @PankajChoudhury 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes I do like such Shenanigans specially when it is done by Loopop !! I love it!!

  • @davidkempmail
    @davidkempmail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great feature - I wasn’t aware you could do this, I must try it on my Digitakt 👍🏼👏🏼👊🏼

  • @kevinsturges6957
    @kevinsturges6957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These sound amazing. So much inspiration in here.

  • @AndrewJohnClive
    @AndrewJohnClive 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loopop, you make lovely sounds.. Thank you!

  • @justingoers
    @justingoers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful stuff man.

  • @juriszemitis3435
    @juriszemitis3435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    On digitakt you can use sequencer while looping. If you use trig condition 1st - for loop track, use other as regular if you want to. And thanks for all your work!!!

    • @solongyouth
      @solongyouth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for this tip.

    • @alpenjon
      @alpenjon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great idea!

  • @jeroenfigee
    @jeroenfigee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    soooo cool!
    I heard 2 bars of the beginning of the video and tons of laughter here...
    Didn't expect that coming from the device.
    Never heard that track coming from anything else than an orchestra.
    Really cool idea!
    Thumbs up from me. :-)

  • @RotlichtFilet
    @RotlichtFilet 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, this is great!!! Have to try this!

  • @LondraCalibro9
    @LondraCalibro9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    consistently incredible content. I think the impact you must have on music is probably understated - you must inspire so many people. thank you for the hard work and the jewels!

  • @greygoo5319
    @greygoo5319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's weird I'm listening to music for airports while taking a bath, and your piano loop fits really well with it 😊🛀✈️🎹

  • @forbesy8568
    @forbesy8568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving these thank you so much.

  • @roninthegoat2810
    @roninthegoat2810 ปีที่แล้ว

    yoooo this first melody is so dope!!

  • @GuitarManiac1975
    @GuitarManiac1975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once again very cool. You seem to be full of incredible musical ideas. Thanks for this new ‘lesson’!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure - thanks!

  • @drumatic
    @drumatic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again for fantastic insight on DT!

  • @sanfordmusic
    @sanfordmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been trying to find some ways to incorporate Output Arcade into my workflow (it is very fast) and this method works! Thanks for the tips, as always.

  • @havokcc
    @havokcc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is amazing, nice tips. Can't wait to get home and try with my octatrack

    • @nickhutton251
      @nickhutton251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can this be done on the octatrack? Seems like a silly question I know. But I am on the fence between the two. The digitakt is winning solely for the looping of the samples like this, but also because I know for sure you can do trig the sequence to evolve the sound over time without restarting the sample loop. I’m sure this could be done on the octatrack but am finding it hard to get an actual answer.

  • @German_LP
    @German_LP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great voice, great channel, great info!
    Thanks from Argentina!

  • @lineoffside
    @lineoffside ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF ?!
    you are awesome dude! the most inspirating person in this era!!!

  • @ChanseMacabre
    @ChanseMacabre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really great idea! I've learned a lot of cool tricks that can be applied to Elektron boxes from your videos, so thanks for making them. :)

  • @sborges433
    @sborges433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved to have watched this with the 4ms Sampler and/or Morpho.

  • @mymockumentary9716
    @mymockumentary9716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been stalking your channel for a while, great work and nice voice.... this video is genius, shame I'm not likely to get a digitak (I've finally subscribed :) hehe)

  • @WyattCmar
    @WyattCmar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really loved these ideas. Thanks!

  • @rootvision1290
    @rootvision1290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Again and again...Nice work man ;-)

  • @happyjessus
    @happyjessus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was pure gold! Please make more tips and tricks videos that teach us how to use the gear we already have instead of wanting new gear 😂

  • @tahiche.
    @tahiche. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lovely bass pad at the end.

  • @purelucknoskill5158
    @purelucknoskill5158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man. Great tutorial.

  • @SyncdAlien
    @SyncdAlien 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very lovely tutorial! 😍 Thanks very much for this! 😍

  • @MarcellJjr
    @MarcellJjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got mine a few days ago and made 16 tracks from this video today!

  • @greenvelvet
    @greenvelvet 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. That is deeply satisfying 😍

  • @BrunoWiebelt
    @BrunoWiebelt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are a MASTER .... I always think so complicated ... thx learned a lot

    • @kaitsu9608
      @kaitsu9608 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slave yourself to the master. 😅 (of youtube review)

  • @Cautionary-Tales-Band
    @Cautionary-Tales-Band 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can also do this via MIDI in Ableton, if you have a synth that supports multiple layered voices. The fun part there is that both copies of the voice can share automation data, even though the notes change in phase relationship, so you can have shared filter movement or whatever.

  • @aki_gong6271
    @aki_gong6271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice indeed, thanks for sharing!

  • @ridvankornaz
    @ridvankornaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for your ideas, great stuff !

  • @supernatural802
    @supernatural802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tht sounded fantastic btw!

  • @index7787
    @index7787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so sick.

  • @kevin_global
    @kevin_global 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic. Great Video xx

  • @cloudrun654
    @cloudrun654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The two pieces of music you played for us here were beautiful. They stand alone as music I would enjoy listening to. There are of a very high quality and craft. If you made a youtube page of just your music, I would happily subscribe to that, too.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks very much! First album coming soon...

    • @alexrsmith31
      @alexrsmith31 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drift by Bicep is very similar to the first jam

  • @howardanderson3061
    @howardanderson3061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love what you do, you have the best videos and here's another one.
    Thank you so much, I've dreamed of creating off set loops.
    Now I can....in the day you would need 2 tape recorders ala Robert Fripp and Brian Eno
    We are so lucky today to have the technology to do things that were once impossible
    Thanks again for sharing this!!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My pleasure - Thanks for taking the time to write!

  • @buldozer123
    @buldozer123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is crazy. So good, thx!

  • @cold_fashioned
    @cold_fashioned 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm putting together a Music for Airports tribute EP of sorts based on the techniques you demonstrate here using my Octatrack. It's been a lot of fun, and I've learned a lot about the OT along the way.

  • @kerinjansenvanrensburg3509
    @kerinjansenvanrensburg3509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so helpful, thank you

  • @solaryzer
    @solaryzer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent tip !

  • @Alex_Martz
    @Alex_Martz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the example at 5:27! 🖤 total Steve Reich! 🙂

  • @lfoflow
    @lfoflow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this so much...

  • @IanBussAudio
    @IanBussAudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I need to go home and do this right now.

  • @DragonTamerCos
    @DragonTamerCos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and Jams!

  • @HarMinimal
    @HarMinimal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. Works on the deluge as well

  • @oktawiuszoctagon
    @oktawiuszoctagon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great trick! It works on old Korg Electribe ESX too. Thank You for the inspiration

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great - thanks for sharing

  • @benasaro1043
    @benasaro1043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! This can also be done in Eurorack using a sequencer like the the NerdSeq by cloning a pattern and making the copy one sample shorter.

  • @InkyDaCaT
    @InkyDaCaT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Loopop!