Loopop Review: Elektron Model Samples vs. Digitakt + 10 performance tips/hacks
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- EDIT: Since this video was made Elektron released a firmware update with Sample Locks, so there's no need for my little hack (though it's still cool anyway!). They also reduced the price to $300 instead of $400.
Here's a detailed review and feature comparison between Elektron Model:Samples and Digitakt, as well as 10 cool performance tips and hacks for getting more out of Model:Samples
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TIP/HACK TIMELINE:
1:40 Add Amp envelope stages using the LFO
2:40 Add a Filter envelope using the LFO
9:30 Trim samples to create different single cycle waveforms and use a sampler as a synth
15:30 Apply Chance to all tracks using control all for instant pattern variations
16:45 Make beats without a pattern by assigning different retrig rates to different pads
18:00 How to create Sample Locks on Model:Samples even though it can’t (EDIT: it can now due to a firmware update...)
20:40 Implementing chokes in Model:Samples
22:00 Triggering all the samples using one MIDI channel
22:30 Ideas to working with kits and adding instant variety to your patterns
24:00 Multichannel export shortcut
TOPIC TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:10 Architecture
2:05 Filter options
3:00 Project scope
4:00 Sound vs. sample
4:55 Encoder controls
7:55 Control all
8:15 Sampling
8:45 Editing samples
10:10 Pads & layout
11:10 Sequencing
13:30 Param locks
14:40 Conditional trigs
15:30 Chance
16:05 Save/reload
16:30 Retrigs/ratchets
17:30 LFO
17:55 Sample locks
20:55 MIDI sequencing
22:00 Kits
23:25 USB audio
24:25 Scales
25:50 Build & summary
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NOTE! Since this video was made Elektron released a firmware update with Sample Locks, so there's no need for my little hack (though it's still cool anyway!). They also reduced the price to $300 instead of $400.
Was just going to applaud you for coming up with a workaround only to read this comment. Nice!
Scored my samples for $200!!! feel like ive already got my moneys worth.
I got mine ex demo from andertons for £150 absolute bargain I love it
Hi! wdym by the firmware update on sample locks ? u still can upload big samples with multiple timbre?
It's like volca sample's dad got out of prison
shatteredsquare which is before and which is after?
@@reedtrygd4277 model: samples... bigger, stronger, smarter, and covered in tattoos
Well that's exactly what I was looking for. Done deal.
As always, the best and most clear tutorial...I was really waiting for your review to pull the trigger!
Your content is so inspiring. It always makes me want to dig deeper into my on machines and pass on the knowledge. Thanks for making your channel and videos. :) I have a long way to go for my explanation on my videos, but every-time watching yours gets me inspired.
This has to be one of the very best hardware demo/instructional channels out there. Kudos in every way!
Thanks!
This is really first decent model: samples review and comparison I saw. Thanks- not even elektron themselves would make a better one
Thank you Loopop. My Digitakt arrived yesterday 😊 Great video, as usual!
always the best, I never miss one of your videos introducing us to new gear. Thank you! :-)
Great video! This has by far been the most helpful video trying to figure out if the model sample is for me!
As I predicted on instagram: After watching your video, I want it! And: Your sample lock workaround is just another example, why I really love your channel. You always find ways to override a machine‘s limitations.
Thanks very much :)
Loopop I swear you make these devices because you know them in depth! You study these like some people do when getting ready for med exams! Of course I always gain lots of knowledge from your videos that’s for true thanks and be safe
excellent, professionally done comparison. Many many thanks
New to this channel, considering buying the Model Samples. Thank you for such a comprehensive overview.
looking forward to the model:cycles vs digitone version of this video! :D
Love you, loopop.
Yay, I had been waiting for this review.
model samples is basically the sampler in Analog Rytm plus that chance thing. i love the feature where the LEDs light up with the parameter locks..such a nice touch
Great video! FYI sample lock has been added to Model:Samples with firmware v1.02. You can lock up to 26 different samples per track.
total game changer
This has to be one of the most understand and thorough tutorial I’ve seen. Thanks for it. Honestly I was just scratching a gear itch I was having but my money situation has been limited for a bit now, I picked up the unit, shipped to my door for $300. Wow I’m so stoked on this machine. Immediately intuitive and I watched your vid know that there’s more. There most certainly is. This is gotta be the most functional and useful budget box out there? More importantly for me, super fun. In the same box that was shipped with my Model was also the Skulpt which is funny because it’s been three day since but haven’t even plugging in yet! Too busy getting familiar with the Elektron. After your vid I’m thinking I’ve got my head around pretty much all of it? Once again thanks a million for this video. It’s really really great, I appreciate you. 🎶🖤⚡️⚡️🎛🎚
Gah this or the cycles.. can't decide.
I can imagine Model:Samples + Skulpt making an awesome duo! I will soon find out, as I just got a Skulpt, and ordered the Model:Samples today!
Used model samples extensively to record my new album. Both have a small learning curve but are fantastic machines. Good video. Thanks
Informative as always!
Thanks for this!! I'm deciding between the two for use on the road. Cycles is perfect to start, but I'll need to get Digitakt as well sometime.
Sold. Thanks for another excellent review! :)
Great comparison! Would love to play with either of these machines
I love my Digi, but I can’t help to think how fun the model sample would be on the fly. Great for live performances.
My first 'Patreon'....so much useful stuff here from 'Loopop'....very grateful :)
I'm a drummer with an interest in electronic percussion and MIDI.....looking to expand my consciousness ;-)
Thanks very much!
Great review. I really like the model sampler, great for adding some beats to my Modular system. Just got one for € 200,- second hand :)
Thank you very much for that video!
thanks, really great review as usual!
Literally the Review God. Thank you for another quality video.
Very informative! Thanks!
It feels more like a volca sample pro. I'm excited, people really undervalue not having to menue dive. Killer reviews loopo ♡
that's exactly what i thought of too when i saw it!
Haha menu dive, where you forget what kind of music you were making in the first place while trying to get a new sound.
Oversynth has some really cool overlays for the model samples and cycles if you think the layout is too plain or not readable enough. got one for my cycles and love it
I got the "Schofield+Keys" and can't imagine not having it. Keeps me from having to use my glasses when using the M:S.
Thank you especially for highlighting Model:Samples unique capabilities. I really value the velocity and aftertouch for capturing a performance. I LOVE the dedicated parameter knobs with LEDs showing when they've been applied. And the ability to set per-track beat divisions - polyrhythms rule! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Check out the video I just uploaded - you can do even more with it ;)
Thanks so much... I am literally just looking at these two devices.
Excellent review.
That sample lock hack tho!
That hack was brilliant!
Great video! I don't regret having the Digitakt in the studio. *ggg*
Every Elektron I’ve ever heard has been instantly recognisable...they have THAT sound! Chunky, wide, classy as all hell!
This was excatly what I was waiting for!! Thanks A LOT!
Great video, very understandable!
best youtube channel, thank you so much for this!
Great video! 😊❤️
Wow. I'm glad I kept watching. Awesome: Sample start work around, you could be very clever and create a kit in one sample.
Brilliant thank you so much for theses very artiulate vids
wow what an awesome video, solved all my questions
Thanks, I've been waiting for your video. I thought I ended up with a glorified Volca sample but, now I see glorified it really is!
I really really like the look of this product. Would love a digitakt but the model has a much better chance of making into my house. Great bang for buck. Can’t wait to see what other model offerings they bring out
thanks a lot for this one!
I started off writing techno with trackers back in the 90s with an IBM386, and had some trouble explaining to people exactly what and how I was doing what I was doing, aside from "video-game music stuff"
Once I found the term "sample-based sequencer" all I had to do was explain what a sample was...
And what a sequencer was... Good times. And a good vid comparing some neat gear.
The digitakt is waay too convoluted for me.
I want things as direct as possible.
So I get the Model:Samples.
Simplicity/limitations also forces you to be creative, if you embrace it
A question about the Ctrl All function (really awesome) :
So, basically when you start holding the Track button, entering the CtrlAll mode basically, the previous state of the pattern is automatically temporarily saved?
Or you need to save it yourself BEFORE starting to use the CtrAll ?
Thanks!
Good tutorial!
The Model Samples has class compliant USB Audio! That's a great feature for people like myself who enjoy producing on an iPad. Wasn't too interested in this device until I learned that.
I run them side by side. M:S for drums and DT for samples only. Killer setup for me.
Great explanation, as always. You mentioned an external sequencer, if needed something more sophisticated for MIDI controlling external gear. Any advice what can be used for that? Something with conditional trigs, chance and all that stuff.
Хороший сравнительный обзор! Всё понятно, доступно и интересно рассказано и показано. Спасибо!
Great video, as ever. Would love to see that LFO quick-assign shortcut on the DT one day. The list ain't fun. Though, if I had my druthers, I'd rather see 'scale' per track on the DT. We could eek a lot more out of 64 steps if we could cut the tempo in 1/2 or 1/4. Here's to hoping they share firmware code and those are just in line to be ported... :)
Now this is a vs. video, ;)
Excellent as usual.
I'd love to see a proper comparison between the model samples and the electribe sampler.
Yep - as I mention in the video it’s in the same price range as the Red Electribe 2 - I partied ways with mine but I’ve created quite a few extensive videos about it which reflect what it can do as well as attempt to extend it as much as possible...
I would love to see 1010 Blackbox vs digitakt. Or BB vs octatrack.
Thanks for the thorough review as always. The Model Samples is nice especially the polyrhythmic and aftertouch possibilities but the highly comparable Circuit released years ago still wins on scales and general playing fun if you ask me. Sample flipping is also easier to use (and fun to improvise on) compared to the single sample divided into sub samples.
I wrangled between the MS and Circuit and went with the MS because I love Elektron stuff, and the 1 gig of sample storage. I needed many minutes of sampling rather than 1.
(Edit) I ended up buying the Circuit as well to replace a synth I didnt like--it's awesome.
@@poodlebites69 In case the one you bought didn't come with OS 1.8 make sure to put it on as it adds micro-step based unquantized recording. Also individual note velocity tracking for chords (which you can disable I believe), also editable after the fact for ultra-nerdy access. I don't believe there is a piece of gear that was so good to start with that received so many relevant enhancements with each OS release. And if you want to get into the amazing soft synth and/or download patches you can make it even more like you want it. I've actually made jazz and ska backup tracks on it that sound like real people playing and also super dynamic house tracks with side chaining and weird bass. It's just crazy!!! I think you'll enjoy both machines. I love the actual sound of the Electron machines and the interface on this one seems like even me and my thick head could get into it
they're both great, howa bout dat
Do you know if you can create a multitrack sequence using your DAW?
Basically using various MIDI In channels to control individual
tracks/instruments? Love your channel!
Thanks! and yes
wow amazing, thanks!
This was a great review/comparison as always, and really helps answer a lot of questions. Thanks! You make some of the best informational videos on youtube.
There was one bit I found a bit misleading though. About USB Audio, I wouldn't describe the M:S as more limited, because it has USB Audio... while the Digitakt does not. This function has been present in hardware synths since about 2004, so in 2019 it's kind of a weird thing to not have. The M:S is a huge step forward in this way, because it finally fixed a major long-standing bug in Elektron's products.
So I'd describe things a bit differently:
The Model:Samples implements class-compliant USB Audio, which provides lossless audio in a way which "just works" automatically with virtually any software on virtually any computing device from now until the end of time. The M:S only provides only two channels though, which was an odd decision by Elektron, but it's still a step in the right direction.
The Digitakt does not implement USB Audio, and has thus far mostly(*) been limited to only analog output.
* As a footnote, Elektron has been working on a proprietary PC app which may be able to send lossless audio data over USB in some circumstances using a proprietary protocol. But two years after the Digitakt's release, this proprietary app still has not had a stable release, and was not even available as a beta until a month ago. It only works on two platforms so compatibility is very limited, it requires an account, it might cost extra if Elektron changes their mind again, and it is unlikely to be supported long-term. However, it may be a usable stopgap for a while until Elektron makes the device's firmware standards-compliant like they did with the Model:Samples.
Personally, I'm fine with just analog audio... but it'd be really nice if I could transfer samples and firmware to/from my Digitakt. It doesn't have USB Storage though, so I can't do that unless I convince someone with a compatible computer to let me install Elektron's app and then use it for a few minutes. That's enough of a hassle that I only bother for major firmware updates.
Hey - first, thanks for the first paragraph - I appreciate it. Regarding the rest - I don't think it's misleading to say MS is more limited if you look at what I think is the biggest upside of USB audio - and that's individual multitrack audio transfer for further editing. Like you, I don't mind recording analog audio if it's just the combined output of the instrument, so the whole audio interface feature is not a must. Where I think USB audio capabilities *are* important is if I've created a multi track piece that I want to further edit on a computer. In that case, having multichannel USB is a big time saver. You're right that ideally multi channel class compliant would be best, and the plugin could be an additional bonus so that people don't have to deal with aggregate devices if MS/DT only appear as class compliant interfaces. All that said, in 2019 we still see many instruments come out with USB MIDI, but no USB audio at all, so something is better than nothing, and better late than never.
I hope it didn't come across as disrespectful, because you do fantastic work here. Your videos about synths go well beyond mere reviews and are a wonderful educational series in their own right. The world is a better place because of you.
Mostly, I'm concerned about reviews which portray the latest product's standards compliance as a downgrade from the proprietary system used before. The class-compliant USB Audio in the Model:Samples appears to signal an extremely positive change in the company. I hope they will continue along that path and include it in all their future products, and reviewers have some influence over that by giving the change a warm or cold reception. Positive press here could help guide the company toward designs which are more compatible and more future-proofed.
So I don't use the phrase "USB audio" to describe what the Digitakt and other Overbridge-dependent products do. I try to use wording which makes it clear that it is not the standards-compliant sort usually implied by that phrase. Rather, it's a proprietary system with proprietary baggage. And although in this case it has an expanded feature set when it works, it intentionally has a much more limited scope of where and how it can function at all.
Elektron originally locked those features behind a proprietary protocol in order to offer access for an additional fee. It was kind of a customer-hostile move, and the market's response to it was very negative, so the company aborted the plan and decided not to charge additional money for it. So that makes it free as in beer. But it's still locked behind a proprietary protocol, so it's not free as in speech. It's artificially limited for reasons which are monetary rather than technological, the remnants of a failed money-making scheme.
I see the Model:Samples as an opportunity to reward the company for taking steps to correct a bad decision made years ago, an attempt to make things right by replacing customer-hostile tactics with customer-friendly tactics. I don't really care much about it as a product, since it's mostly just a lightweight version of something I already have. But I care about it a lot as a sign of positive change.
I hope this makes sense. You're awesome, and I'm optimistic that Elektron will continue on its path toward awesomeness too. Apologies for the wall of text.
@@ToyKeeper no worries an again thanks for the first paragraph ;)
...and I agree with you 100% that class compliant audio is the better way to go (with overbridge as a sugar on top that saves you the trouble of aggregating audio interfaces). I don't know which reviews you're talking about that portray class compliant as being a downgrade, but lack of per track audio streaming is a limitation compared to Digitakt, which, to people who mix on a PC is important.
Thank you! Gonna use that lfo tip today.
Snap, had mine about an hour now. Don't worry I have broken off to watch your review.
elektron model:samples reminds me of the first sampler I fell in love with, the Akai S-20, which was pretty much Akai's answer to Roland's (Boss) Dr. Sample, both all real time, no sequencing ability, the only thing bad about the Akai device. I want one of these elektron devices, thanks for opening up about it.
Nice story.
For me,S/M,is like Yamaha answer was.
SU700.
beatiful instrument.
Almost no menu.
Kind of knob per function.
Now,in SM, I see incarnation of SU700...
Hey, thanks for the video, I’m a Sp404 and Eps user, I use Maschine and Live, but I hesitate between a Digitakt or a model sample to complete my set up with or without My Daw, contrôle my synths, play with my Sp. Old Mpc user I’m really interested by the
Elektron workflow, Plocks, conditional trigs etc...,
Hey ! Great video ! Can you send one Sample-Channel by only L or R (like extreme pan). So for example, like you can have bass or Kick for R and main mix for L? It is posible to do that ?
Thanks - yes!
As Digitakt owner, I only wish you could send midi from the audio tracks as an option like the Model:Samples
thanks, great as always loopop! I wonder if the loops can run infinitely without the sequencer. triggering a loop with a track pad with something like hold-mode on or holding itself? (the background is, that I don't like that the sequencer determines the loop. the same problem is with octatrack and digitakt. they trigger a loop, but it gets retriggered with the sequencer, so I have to set the bpm that it matches exactly the "perfect loop I found" & it is really annoying. similar problem is even with ableton. nobody has "calculate bpm from loop length"-function. "warp 2 bars" in simpler comes from the other side of the problem (force loop to a generic bpm) and is pretty cool, but if you have a beautiful, hazy loop, you don't necessarily hear the 2 bars. I wrote already to ableton & elektron & they offered only workarounds. The only thing that comes close is having a modular sampler (with flexible start & end points) then "end-of-loop" trigger out into a multiplier module... maybe you can understand what I am rambling about & have a tip? thaaaanx
Yeah sorry... I don't think I understand... I mean octatrack stretches quite nicely and extracts BPM from a sample - doesn't that give you what you need? Here's a different idea, may or may not be what you want but I think is quite nice: load up a few samples from different songs you like, set decay to infinity, and the samples to loop. Then trigger the tracks just by hitting the track keys (without running the sequencer) and mess with pitches down or up (down works better), and trim start and end points, until you get wonderfully polyrhythmic mashups from whatever songs you picked. Just ignore the BPM ;) No need for a time stretch algorithm, on the contrary, pitching down will change the loop length into different polyrhythms every time.... Now I'm rambling ;)
first of all, another great video. I am a big fan. I enjoy all of your presentations. I have a question. I am doing audience interactive live performances. I know that the Digitakt would be better for this purpose, but I really like a lot of the features of the M:S. Is there anyway to get live samples, like using a different capture device like the Korg sampler or any other sampers? Maybe by the time I figure all this out, I may be better to just get the Digitakt. Although the Electribe and the X/Y pad on the KP3 are pretty cool. Do you think either one of these would work to capture audience response live and get them into the Elektron M:S directly?
Thanks! MS can't capture samples at a all; all the others you mentioned go into "sample mode" when they record, so nothing else can happen. If you need to play back audio while you're sampling you need something like a Deluge or Octatrack.
The Korg MicroSampler was, to me, the greatest sampler for live use for musicians (not so much form DJs). You can still find a few used ones.
Hi, on Sample Model can I connect a keystep and play/rec sequences live for each track on separate midi channels?
Yes
Hello! Have you tried to supply external batteries (notebook type) to digitakt? Thank you
are those intro beats samples from the stock rom or did you load those?
Hi James, as far as I remember it's stock plus the free demo samples available on Elektron's site (they let you download a few samples from each kit)
That first bassline is straight out of The Mash and the Fury
can you use a different set of pads (maschine) and midi connect to the sequencer and still use the knobs, etc.? Also would it work for using midi keyboard to control melodic sounds?
Yes.
Model: Samples overall might not be as impressive as Digitakt, but man, 15 knobs are better than 10 knobs. Like 1.5 times better.
I will add:
15 knobs,that change every time the same parameters.
I think,this feature much more natural for human being...
one button track selection and velocity sensitivity on board got me. it was game over at that point.
Em Wilson how you like it?
This man knows about knobs! +1 would recommend to have your have knob tested by him
I prefer Samples at the end of the day. I took the Takt back for it. Haven't looked back for a half second.
well there is only one loopop. love your content. a lot of people are complaining about the model samples. i think it is a good way to get in the elektron world with the extrodinary sequencer. i am not into elektron gear until now. i always loved the possibilties but the menu diving and double/triple function workflow kept me away from the machines. the model samples could be my first elektron machine.
Thanks! People complain about everything, and this isn’t perfect, but what I think they did brilliantly here is carefully select the performance features that would be most fun to play with and make them accessible
I have both. If you want the true joys of Elektron, start with the digitakt. I just goes way deeper.
Doleegop thats for sure but i am a mpc live user. it goes far beyond the digitakt imo. i only want that sequencer for my nord drum 3p. looks like a perfect match to me.
@@poodlebites69 some people evaluate immediance of instrument much higher than depth.
maybe i missed something regarding sample locks (around 20:00), but it is possible during a sequence to change the sample at any time. for exemple having on step "8" a different sample loaded and played instead of the one currently used on the pad.
indeed they added that feature in a firmware update after this video was made
Very nice
I beseech you make a video overview plus tips exploring/explaining the mpc live, pretty pretty please. The OP-1 also deserves your clear and articulate analysis, review, and workflow insights.
I don't have an MPC live unfortunately. OP-1 however I've been thinking of revisiting for a while... will try and find time!
loopop you are a mensch and a gentleman. The hardest thing about op-1 is how to optimize the workflow and still be able to important and finish a project in a daw at least that’s what I struggle with. The MPC live is something of a blunt instrument compared to the elegance of elektron or teenage engineering but it’s rock solid for what it is. With the immediacy and intuitive of 80’s sampling drum computers that has been largely absent in most drum machines after the mpc 3000. It shouldn’t be dismissed just because of it’s association with rudimentary rap production. even without all the bells and whistles that of other samplers have. Sorry to rant thank you for the reply I look forward to your future videos 🖖
Thanks! Yeah I love the OP-1 but the tape workflow stresses me out - one mistake and it’s over ;) still, it has things no one else does, and it’s fun...
loopop I know what you mean, red means recording seems to have figured something out about composing and arranging on the OP-1 that sadly escapes my intellect :/
Great video, now i understand the difference. Here in Europe the Sample is 440 and digitakt is around 620 Euros. Given the differences i think Model sample should be a bit cheaper.
It should be 350-375 euros
Agree price difference doesn't make a ton of sense when you look at features - but they seem to be making it as something a little different not just a bare bones digitakt
agreed. i think it will be cheaper. the digitakt started at 750€. when the model samples is at 350€ therre will be a lot more people buying it. even if is a different concept/machine i think electribe 2 and drumbrute impact are the competitors.
xXkupsuXx definitely true about competition
I understand people have different requirements. Someone with small budged with only a couple of machines is better off with a used Electribe 2 sampler for 250. 16 Tracks, some level of synth, built in sampler, card slot...like no competition. However i can also see how the Model Sample is attractive. The Elektron workflow, the direct controls, the mighty elektron sequencer. I still paid more for a Digitakt even though i could have a electribe for half a price. But the working with an Electron is such a joy.
Can u make a indepth video about the digitakt? Great channel you have.
Thanks - check out my Digitakt tips and tricks video - there’s a lot in there!
Great video !
Makes appear this new box in a more positive way than others.
What would be your advice for a first groovebox that would be used and sometimes connected with a rev 2 for synth sounds ?
I am a bit lost with all those boxes (electribe, Digitakt, sample
Model or creating my rythmes with Ableton push...).
I am a pop/ electro composer/singer. Drum box is missing to my setup and I don’t want to buy the wrong one. It will be use for songs and not for clubs so I don’t need a very complicated machine. Just have to be sure that it will match with my rev2 in midi.
Thanks for your advice and for your great work.
Thanks! They’ll all sync with a Rev2, and there’s no easy answer unfortunately other than to research which works best for you - they each have their pros and cons
Sounds like Novation Circuit could be right up your street. Easy workflow, really quick to sketch out songs. The electribe is more feature packed, but i found the menu diving and workflow so tedious. Killed all creativity. The model:samples looks really really fun tho
@@johnchesters81 I'm choosing the Model:Samples over the Circuit and Electribe as my first groovebox. The M:S can sequence up to 6 external synths via MIDI, the Circuit only one. The M:S has a screen that shows you what is going on, with the Circuit you have to memorize/imagine a lot of what is going on, and there's no consistency between knob functions. The Electribe looks nice too, but a bit dense; I like that the M:S is clearly designed for live performance, everything is so immediate. I think the Circuit is ideal for someone who wants to jam around and have fun without needing to learn anything about music production, and the M:S and Electribe are better for those who are actually trying to become musicians/producers. You can't really go wrong with any of them, they are all excellent.
Amazing comparison as always.
That sample start hack makes this a lot more appealing to me...
Mono samples though! No love for wide claps, or unison. I'm all for limitations, but that's pushing it IMO.
The model samples can sample locks. I think there was a firmware update since this review.
How do I accèss the Midi CONFIGURATION MENU?
Really interesting machine. But what about all the complaints from users about faulty buttons, breaking up easily?
hello do you know if it allows a different sample set per pattern and different settings per sample per pattern? ? unlike the octatrack which allows only four scenes set for each pattern bank
Synthbox Mexico yes - each pattern is it’s own separate thing with its own samples and parameters. No parts here.
If you ever get your hands on a Liven Lofi 12, we need you to cover it up - and even compare it to the Samples
Could model samples be used with the rk002 smart midi cable? If a sample could be a waveform, and each track can be played via midi, it should work as a poly synth. Sort of similar to how the digitakt does it.
I haven’t tried it, but there’s a good chance it could work
Interesting idea! Could you expand on how that would work?
I wish there was a way to have the pressure control the retrig speed
Can a MIDI track on the Model just send out clock to a synth with it’s own seq/arp? Maybe Track 6 is always Clock Out - and the other tracks just play drums/perc?
It probably just sends MIDI clock out regardless of the track - I haven't tried it yet.
Can you use the sample to play back loops like you showed in your other video of the DT
Which video?
sample track 120 - dividing this into 12 how many seconds does this convert too in real time is 10 intervals = 10 seconds for each sound?
Thankyou.
Please do the analog rtym mk2! :D
Yes!
Great job
Hi Loopop, does model samples has the trig panning like digitakt? I see only track level panning so far.
You can't do it directly, but you can pan individual trigs, by using velocity levels, set to control the pan (then you can choose weather, to have velocity also control volume, or not).
You can also apply LFO to panning the track.
Hope they add normal per trig panning, in a future update.