My 2016 Forester XT is awesome! Cobb stage one, Nameless exhaust, Mishimoto intake. Broke it in good, hard. No oil consumption, ZERO! After 4000 miles, 5.2 quarts synthetic in, 5.2 quarts out. AMAZING! Driven hard, fast, and it loves it. Subaru fan for life.
Jump to 5:47 if all you want is to hear me talk about a few questions I always get. 1 of which being oil consumption. Thanks for watching! BTW these are my experiences with the new Forester XT, I can't say how the 2.5's are holding up!
T-WRX i hear some people loose oil on this car I think the some problem people the way drive it when first bought it new they did not break in by the manual book.
Bought a 2014 in the summer of 2013. Changed the oil in the spring and again in the fall. Less than 6000 kms., between oil changes. Always synthetic. It's 2019 today and I have never added oil between oil changes. I don't get it with the oil issue. My 7 year warranty is done or 70000 km and now I can buy the Cobb access port finally. I'm so giddy! Don't tell my wife. Catless J pipe, 4 inch intercooler. Just for starters. Time to play! It's fast now but like all of us it should be faster!
Nice video! You do a great job with your videos. Well planned, great editing and excellent information. I'm driving my first Subaru, a 2017 Forester 2.5i Touring. So far I love it. About 7500 miles, one oil change, 29.1 MPG average and NO oil consumption. Keep on keeping on with your excellent videos!
Subaru in general has had an oil consumption issue for along time, and yet CR always puts Subaru at the top in reliability. I've had a 2013 Subaru and a 2006 Toyota with the same issue and the dealer and manufacturers never acknowledge there was a problem. to me that's a big problem. Go to CR #73 cars that burn too much oil!
Well - that is very strange isn't it. I'm looking at the latest Consumer Reports magazine (April 2018) & it ranks the Forester as their pick for the 'compact SUV' category within a Top 10 list. (Page 22). They also list the Forester and Outback as great picks for seniors (Page 34). There's no mention at all about the oil consumption issue, yet many people are still citing problems online about the latest Forester models. Are all the problems, those Foresters, Imprezas, Outbacks etc. with manual transmissions, or are CVT also affected? Consumer Reports does have a 2015 article that cites excessive oil consumption is NOT normal. Yet, Subaru in addition to Audi - state that a certain amount is normal. That normal amount of oil burning can cost a pretty penny between oil changes especially when synthetic oil is required. We're not talking about a quart here or there and a few bucks, we're talking complete small-block engine replacements under warranty - multiple times. What happens to your car when you're out of warranty? Good luck. This is how Consumer Reports seems confusing to me - contradictory in fact to even remotely recommend these vehicles. It really makes me question their recommendations at all.
Oil consumption is directly related to break in..... Subaru says to not rev the motor past 5,000 RPM for the first 1,000 miles. Also vary the RPM during that process. I have followed this procedure with three Subaru’s. I have yet to have a oil consumption problem with any of the three.(14Crosstrek, 16Forrester 2.5, 17WRX Base). The people that have had the most problems are the ones that have not followed proper break in....
I have a 2011 legacy 3.6r and have never had an oil consumption issue. Had a timing cover leak which was rather expensive but never had any other mechanical issue
Miss July It has been my experience that with proper break in( not over 5000 rpm sustained, for the first 1,000 miles and no wide open throttle when cold)your chances of oil consumption will be less. Just note...... ALL engines consume some oil during break in and even after. It’s not uncommon to consume maybe 1/4 of a quart between changes....
Nice video, T-WRX! As a new Subaru owner (2019 Forester 2.5i base), I did read about the oil and head gasket issues, which is why I went with a newer model...hoping that Subaru resolved them. Looks like yours is doing good, and thanks again for this positive video!
I had a 2016 Forester XT Premium, did oil changes every 6,000 miles, and it never burned a drop of oil. Traded it in after 26,000 miles for a WRX STI, which burns very minimal oil between changes, again every 6,000 miles.
Had a brand new GTI about 20 years ago. On the first trip for an oil change, the BMW mechanic torqued the threads right out of the block. Cost me $300 to get fixed and always dripped afterwards. The car after that was a Civic. I put the valve in the day I bought the car and have been changing the oil MYSELF for the past 20 years!
This is why I drive since new a 2009 Mazda 3 s hatchback 2.3 with 5 speed auto and 195,000 miles. I have been dumping money lately for suspension parts at all four corners and a trans module. A trans module is not a rebuild. At the end of the last 5000 mile oil change interval I got back from a 2000 mile Marathon trip in 50 hours. Car ran like a champ. Did not burn or leak a drop of synthetic oil.
Ive got an Impreza and it hasn’t used a drop of oil in a year. Only done 5000 miles in it since then but I do get the revs up high fairly regularly. Impressive engineering.
The Ford EcoBoost has the same problem, because of block ventilation. As the oil circulates and blows out the PVC valve it shoots oil directly into your intake and can cause oil loss. this can be fixed with an oil separator catch can that separates the air from the oil that goes back into your intake and returns the oil back to your crankcase.
fumoto valve is awesome. put mine in after first oil I did when I got the car. good thing to as it saves your knuckles from the nice sharp around the plug
I've been using Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 in my 10 Legacy 3.6R for several years now, never had any issue with it. My local dealer parts manager mentioned that bottled oil sold by Subaru Canada are essentially OEM packaged Mobile 1.
T-WRX alot of ppl say the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 is the best for the fa20. i've been using it just bc of what I read in a total of like 5 mins of research haha! its probably not necessary
2017 foresters come with a plastic door over the drain plugs. Only on non turbo if I'm not mistaken. It is just push clips to remove it. Working for subaru and my wife having a 2016 wrx. I find the FA20 takes around 5.5 quarts to have it at full. The recommended 5.4 never seems to be enough.
They fixed the oil burn issue for 2015 models and beyond. my dad was wondered about the Same thing. so he got the 15 model and hasn't burn any oil at all.
I have a 2015 Legacy 2.5 i premiun and it currently has 71 k miles, bought it brand new and i have had the low oil light come on twice in 4 years that i had it, i added a quart of oil and it took care of the low oil light
I have a 2015 Forester. It consumes about 1 quart between oil changes. I am at 55,000 miles. Didn’t start consuming till about 20,000 miles. I did a proper breakin and I always wait for the engine to warm and idle down before I load the engine.
Well my 2017 2.5 non turbo does in fact have covers underneath and they have to be removed to access the oil drain plug. You are welcome to drive over here and look at it yourself.
Not using your two year complimentary services? They'll check for recalls, etc. too. And make sure you document or else Subaru may void your warranty as they need to track consistent maintenance per proof should something go wrong.
I actually didn't get 2 years of maintenance when I purchased. But honestly its more about the time saving than the money. It takes like 2+ hours when you count drive time and such to go get an oil change at the dealer. I can do it in like 30 mins at home, its worth the effort to me! But I document everything anyway, receipts, mileages etc.
Nice review, you do a great job. My parents and I have owned a total of five Subarus. Two Forresters (2004) my parents bought, two Outbacks (2014, 2015) my parents bought, and a 2013 Legacy I bought. Of the two Forresters, only one started burning oil (it was the 2.0 L turbo unit) at 140,000 miles. That is not great but not horrible. I have been the unlucky one with the 3.6L H6. It burns 1.5 quarts every 2.000 miles - which is not enough. It started burning at 47,000 miles. I change the oil every 5000 like you. Subaru claims that now i should put in 6.9 quarts (not 6 quarts recommended) and burn through the extra oil until the next oil change. I burn 1.9 quarts and check the oil level religiously as I know I will have to refill it once before 5000 miles. Subaru says it is good for the environment - my car is definitely not as I put out a ton of burnt oil constantly. I barely passed emissions last time. If it fails next time, I will have a stronger case for an engine replacement.
zero issues with my 16 WRX with 16,000 miles, but a family member had a blown gasket from the oil consumption issue in a 2014 Cross Trk with less than 50,000 miles
Would definitely hope for no oil consumption at only 10k miles! I'm at 164k+ miles on my 2007 Legacy, losing about a quart every 2500 miles or so. Coolant looks ok right now. Head gasket job was done with the timing belt at 90k miles. No transmission issues - that's the deal breaker for me with new Subarus. Just don't trust a CVT to last that long.
Hi.Chuck (Charles?) - here in Australia I’ve owned 10 Subarus over 40 years (Leone, Liberty, WRX, Outback and Forester) my 1997 Forester got to $425k before the camshaft seized - never had oil/coolant level or head gasket issues and all these vehicles had high kms - only updated due to lifestyle changes - I stopped at 2013 models because of the CVT issues around 60k-100k for the 2013-2017 Forester/XV/Impreza models - I believe the CVT has been Improved for the 2019 onwards? It’s five years since your video and was wondering how the XT is now? John in SA
Based on my research the oil consumption is only for the non-turbo '11-'15 foresters. You're safe with the XT from what I've seen. This issue is keeping me from buying a non-turbo forester right now...
Subaru's oil is Idemitsu. It's on Amazon and it isn't priced bad at all! Just FYI if you want to buy the Subaru oil but don't want to pay for the Subaru wrap on the jug. ;)
The turbo's don't tend to burn as much oil. the fb series motors burn more and have cam carrier issues(leak). the manuals (forester 2.5i, impreza and outback(canada still gets man) the cars the burn the useless 0w20 oil tend to burn it off...
Ok Group, What oil consumption do you think would make you happy? ie 500, 1000 ,2000 ,5000 ,10000, 20000, 50000 miles per quart? Do think a car that uses oil at 10,000 miles per quart is better than one that uses oil at 2000 mile per quart?
Nice video. I like where the oil filter is located. I have an 09 Forester with the non-turbo 2.5 with 92k miles and no oil consumption, but when I change the filter it's a mess underneath. I'm thinking of getting an Outback in about one year.
I have a 2017 Forester premium 2.5L with 21k on the clock and zero oil consumption. Not a drop of oil consumed at all. Last oil change was 3k ago and just checked it today, all good.
Unfortunately I am seeing Oil Consumption issues on the Impreza 2013 (Canada) now that we are approach our 5th year. The last two oil changes (at 7500 km each) we lost 1 litre of oil each change (down to first notch on the dip stick. Typically all city driving and oil change is done at the 6 month mark. Subaru recommends 6 months or 10,000 km (which ever comes first). Subaru also claims that it is ok to lose 1 litre of oil for 2000 km. So we are off to our first oil consumption test.
2014 - 2016 Forester had oil burning issue -- class action lawsuit , also class action lawsuit against the CVT transmission. Glad you're not dealing with the oil burning. (Had major oil burning issue and Subaru would not fix it, CVT was going bad but they wouldn't fix that either, and head gasket leaking) All of this below 80k miles, and I changed the oil less than 5k miles and took care of that car. In my experience Subarus are not reliable and the problems I experienced are pretty normal with them. I'll never have one again. Hope you have a different experience with yours.
Earlier cars have it as well. I own a 2013 Legacy that also burns oil, but it is the only issue with the car after 85,000 miles. No repairs needed (and Subaru said the engine burning I have is normal as it is minor).
The short nipple fumoto valve is a better choice in my opinion because it doesn't hang as low. I owned a 2019 WRX with this engine for 40,000 miles, changing it every 5000 miles with Motul X-Clean 5w30, and it never burned any oil. I don't think it was ever an issue on this particular engine. It was mostly on their naturally aspirated engines that take 0w20.
CVT - what's the problem? If I wanted to slam gears from light to light I would have bought an STI or some other road rocket. For what I need in a car, the CVT works fine.
you know I think the oil consumption thing is weird. every wrx I have owned had sucked up oil like crazy. ej20 ej25 but now my fa20 is fine. I think people just don't pay attention to their oil till it's too late. esp when the dealership tells you 6k+ miles between oil changes(that's what mine says anyways). oddly enough my 15FXT and WRX doesn't consume oil at all. great channel. subscribed!!
Awesome video. Just purchased a pre-owned 2017 XT Touring! Your videos were helpful in confirming my purchase and I will definitely refer back to them for maintenance!
Just had my 2016 Forester MT in at the dealer for oil consumption. It was burning 1 qt every 1k miles. Subaru covered it under the powertrain warranty and replaced the entire shortblock. Yes, it's still a problem.
Good video. But I want to ask some questions. Was the car driven before the oil change to warm the oil? Was the oil filler cap opened before you release the old oil on the bottom of the engine? Why do you nt remove the old oil filter during the drain of the old oil? By the way your garage looks tidy.
Yes it was warm, I did pull the cap to release any vacuum. I was less thorough in this video because I did a video on the oil change process a few months back. I didn't remove the filter while draining the oil because the car was on the lift and I couldn't reach it if I'm honest! Thanks for watching!
I have a normally aspirated '16 with 20k on it. The CVT is very nice, though sometimes while entering a freeway, I wish there was more. The care is scary amazing in the snow.
HI there! really appreciate your helpful video! We're getting a compact suv for our 20 year old daughter. But we can't decide between the Forester with eyesight and the Rav 4. Which would you recommend? Do you think or know if the 2018 model would have oil consumption issue? Or other mechanical issues?
Hi - great video. We have non turbo Foresters - 2017 and 2014. Older Subarus are notorious for head gasket failures. I have been told that there has been a recent redesign of the head gaskets. What is your view and what is your opinion regarding frequency of coolant changes? Thanks!
For a daily gas saver I really enjoyed the 2013 Legacy, the CVT was not bad. I can only imagine the newer models have a better behaving CVT...Subaru should keep it out of the "sporty" packages though :\.
I'm looking at a 2018 Forester and people have warned me about a head gasket problem. It appears this has been fixed, but were you ever concerned about having to replace head gaskets before 100,000 miles before you bought you 2017?
about to have my first oil change (just ticked over 6k today!) and I was initially very worried about this, but I checked my fluid levels not that long ago and everything seems okay. Sick video either way Chuck!
I got a 2013 legacy I4 and at 100k miles it started to burn a half to a quart of oil between oil changes. I just carry oil w me all the time. I’m at 146k miles now.
liked this episode. i wonder where you got the oil valve. i have a subaru xv fb20 engine. i do the oil change myself but dont have a lifter. the oil valve should come in handy. thanks andmore power
I have a Forester 2016 Limited and what do you think about using Royal Purple with there filter as well? I have no complaints about my choice and I'm on 7,540 miles. My work is only 2 1/2 miles from home and I'm really looking forward to doing a road trip in August from L.A. LA. and Austin! Great lift!
Why wouldn't you want your CVT to "hang" at one particular RPM? That's the whole point of a CVT. Your engine only makes peak power or peak fuel efficiency at one particular RPM so the point of a CVT is to be able to keep you at the peak RPM through acceleration as opposed to going past the peak in your powerband and then having to shift and drop back down below the peak in your powerband, being far less efficient.
Because its so foreign to the what everyone is used too. Your brain is very used to hearing the engine RPM go up and down, it strays from that expected behavior. I agree that the entire point of the CVT is to keep it inside of its ideal power band. But that doesn't mean the sounds it makes aren't irritating. Look up Nissan CVT complaints, its a pretty big annoyance.
T-WRX Well, I'm not really too sure what to say to that. It's pretty dumb to buy a product and then get mad at it for doing its job exactly how it is supposed to do it. It's also pretty stupid to say "this isn't what I'm used to or have had in the past... so I don't like it."
Haha I didn't say it was smart to buy a CVT if you hate them, but in the case of the 2017 Forester XT if you love everything else about it.... CVT is your only option as a transmission. So with this channel I encourage people to not let the typical "I hate CVT mindset" prevent them from buying one. Good or bad, it doesn't behave as anticipated when in Sport mode, this is probably intentional by the engineers at Subaru. I'm sure its been programmed to "simulate" gears because they know the majority of the market isn't accepting of the typical CVT behavior. "this isn't what I'm used to or have had in the past... so I don't like it." is unfortunately human nature.
Hi, I am writing from Singapore, I own a Subaru Forester SH5 model ( None Turbo) year 2009 done 140,000 KM) -87,500miles no oil consumption issues, NO OIL LEAK , Handling was Excellent as As i often drove across to Malaysia traveling North -South Express way using SAE 10W 30 Full systematic any brand oil used changed my oil & filter every 10K kilometer local temperature 35 to 37 degree C ? and last and not least- it will be 10 years this July 19.
Nice video. I heard somewhere that Subaru did address the 2017 vehicles oil consumption "problem." I have a question for you and that is the rack you have on top of your Forester. Is it a stock factory rack? I have a 2017 Forester as well and am thinking of adding one to mine. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
i don't know subaru filter is better than Ultra Fram. Heard subaru filter is from Fram but don't know what grade they are using. Some 5w30 is not meeting ILSAC-GF5. Slight viscosity difference and others tune to European fuel.
Once my Legacy passed 290k miles I have been giving it nothing but best. SuperTech 10w40 costs $11 for a jug of 5 quarts. Funny thing is that it sounds better now than it did with Castrol which was $16 a jug. Lets see how long it runs on this shit.
I was curious on the oil for the newer Subaru motors. Considering buying a forester shorty. But yea, that pennzoil is great. My 2az burned oil with Mobil 1 and castrol. Put the same stuff in you did (5w-20) and it dramatically slowed down.
Very nice video. Now I want a lift too. My 2011 Forester (non-turbo FB25) just went out of warranty and I was wondering if I should keep using 0W-20 oil (I use Mobil1 full syn.) I have seen some chatter around the web that the thinner oil is only recommended to improve Subaru's fleet mileage standard. Is there another weight oil that would better extend my engine life? Using very little oil now at 100,000+ miles even with the dreaded FB25.
I wonder..what are the differences in oil specs if Subaru says every 6000 miles (about 10000 km) in North America? when in Sweden they say every 9500 miles (15000 km) If it burns oil why not try a 5w-40 oil? That i swhat i would have done.
Hi, excellent video, congratulations. I have a question, do you lose the Subaru warranty when you make the oil change on your own? (In my country you lose it in this case) what does the Subaru policy say about it? Thank you!
I really like the cvt for fuel economy and sport for when getting down to business the fact it stays at that rpm give me hope I can make good fuel economy on a turbo then that of a non turbo the fact you can get v6 power from a cylinder and Have an ok power to weight with some good fuel economy specially one of the best awd systems is all good in my book and full synthetic is awesome giving better protection for the turbo
If I may recommend I use it for my mercury Milan v6 and that is marvel mystery oil it's awesome cleans your fuel lines unclogs injectors and gives proper lubrication to the fuel which in reality your car needs and today's fuel doesn't have that anymore since it has ethanol which I believe they use in the fuel to remove to help keep the moisture out
Chuck, thanks for this excellent video. What OEM tires came with your Forester and how are they performing? Just bought the 2017 Forester 2.5i. The OEM tires were Yokohama G91. They don't get good reviews and I'm wondering if I should replace them. I'm talking with the dealership about a tire trade. Thanks.
On my 2014 2.5 I replaced the stock G91 with Continental True Contact. Huge difference. Excellent dry and wet grip and no more squealing noise when turning into parking space. They now have 29,000 miles on them with good tread left.
I have over 190,000 kms (118,000 miles) on my 14 Forester XT. The comments saying this engine doesn't burn oil are simply false. For the first 15,000 kms this engine used a lot of oil but afterward became tolerable in warm months. However, in very cold temperatures oil consumption gets worse until when the ambient temperature falls below -30C this car is basically useless as it will burn 1 liter in 300 kms. When the temperatures improve the oil consumption mysteriously disappears. Subaru dealer seems unable to even have a suggestion what the issue is. Also had a cat failure around 130,000 kms which the dealer did not want to cover with warranty, probably related to oil issue. I wish I had not bought this car. Engine is now running extremely poorly especially at idle. I am thinking this is probably a valve issue due to oil consumption and the direct injection not cleaning the valves. My last Subaru. :(
My mom actually has a CRV that i've driven many times, it's a good car but it doesn't have a higher power engine option which was the turnoff for me. Here is a link to the rack amzn.to/2eYyHTM I did a video on the install etc. if you are interested. Thanks for watching!
Quick question, do you have any problems with sun glare on the piano black? Specifically the trim around the shifter. Whenever the sun is vaguely overhead I have an insane amount of glare directly into my eyes and I can't figure out of it's just my car or all the foresters with piano black.
Hey Man. Quick question. I am strongly interested in the Forester XT. I am glad to hear that you are getting 27 mpg in commuting. From a fuel tank, how many miles of cruising range does the XT get? From an empty tank, how many gallons due it take to fill up? Do you have to use premium or does regular work? Sorry for the huge amount of questions but I feel an owner will be more honest that a dealer. Thanks Bud!
Nice video! Did you add MOA to engine which my dealer does? Shops in my area mostly sell 5.0 litter oil/ bottle. What do you suggest for keeping the un-used but bottle opened oil for the next use, about a half year? Thanks
Thanks for your nice video. I have one question, how easy is it to change or clean spark plugs in a boxer engine ? And the how is the general maintenance and repairs of a Subaru engine compared to conventional engines. Does it requires specialized training ?
Spark plugs are a little hard to get to than an inline motor where they are all on top, but it can be done. Maintenance is similar to most other cars, nothing really different except a few jobs are made a little harder to do when its time. Spark plugs, head gaskets etc.
Y10Q Spark plugs are a wear item, it varies by car as to how often you should change them. Generally, 30-50k is the max you can get out of them. If your car burns oil, expect less. One of my Subaru's burned oil, by 15k miles the plugs would be out of spec and covered in thick deposits.
Unless you are constantly loading the engine or racing it to redline, you will never see any difference between 200k mile units and brand new ones. If the spark plugs are constantly being damaged, you got bigger fish to fry. I have put over 230k miles on my 2001 wagon and most of that on single set of spark plugs. The more you mess with them, the more of a chance you have to fuck up something. I only change the spark plugs when I first get the car and leave it till the wheels fall off. This is not a lawn mower we are talking about.
Two questions: How does the Forester w/leather handle the WDC summers? Would you consider mud flaps (OEM or 3rd party) purely from a dirt mitigation perspective?
My 2016 Forester XT is awesome! Cobb stage one, Nameless exhaust, Mishimoto intake. Broke it in good, hard. No oil consumption, ZERO! After 4000 miles, 5.2 quarts synthetic in, 5.2 quarts out. AMAZING! Driven hard, fast, and it loves it. Subaru fan for life.
Jump to 5:47 if all you want is to hear me talk about a few questions I always get. 1 of which being oil consumption. Thanks for watching! BTW these are my experiences with the new Forester XT, I can't say how the 2.5's are holding up!
We have a 2017 2.5 CVT Touring. So far, excellent with no issues whatsoever!
I have a '16 2.5 premium with 30,000 miles and no oil consumption at all.
I change oil every 6000 kms I have the 2.0 in south america
I've heard many reports of the 2.5i with manual trans., burning oil. What transmission do you have and how's it going for you now?
T-WRX i hear some people loose oil on this car I think the some problem people the way drive it when first bought it new they did not break in by the manual book.
Bought a 2014 in the summer of 2013. Changed the oil in the spring and again in the fall. Less than 6000 kms., between oil changes. Always synthetic. It's 2019 today and I have never added oil between oil changes. I don't get it with the oil issue. My 7 year warranty is done or 70000 km and now I can buy the Cobb access port finally. I'm so giddy! Don't tell my wife. Catless J pipe, 4 inch intercooler. Just for starters. Time to play! It's fast now but like all of us it should be faster!
I have a 2016 xt with 13k miles and no issues at all. I always monitor the oil level to keep safe. No mods at all on it and I'm still happy with it.
Nice! Sounds a lot like mine, good so far!
Nice video! You do a great job with your videos. Well planned, great editing and excellent information. I'm driving my first Subaru, a 2017 Forester 2.5i Touring. So far I love it. About 7500 miles, one oil change, 29.1 MPG average and NO oil consumption. Keep on keeping on with your excellent videos!
Thanks for the kind words! I really appreciate you checking out the videos!
Another great Forester video, just turned over 2000 miles, it performs excellent in the mountains!
Thanks Robert!
I really love this channel. Keep it up
That means a lot man, thanks for the support!
I have mine XT, I am so happy wit it. There is no oil consumption. Also there is no turbo lag with the CVT.
Awesome man!
Thanks for this review and the last one on your 2017 Forester. We just bought a 2017 Forester 2.5 Premium! I will look forward to your next review.
No problem man, thanks for checking out the videos!
Subaru in general has had an oil consumption issue for along time, and yet CR always puts Subaru at the top in reliability. I've had a 2013 Subaru and a 2006 Toyota with the same issue and the dealer and manufacturers never acknowledge there was a problem. to me that's a big problem. Go to CR #73 cars that burn too much oil!
Well - that is very strange isn't it. I'm looking at the latest Consumer Reports magazine (April 2018) & it ranks the Forester as their pick for the 'compact SUV' category within a Top 10 list. (Page 22). They also list the Forester and Outback as great picks for seniors (Page 34). There's no mention at all about the oil consumption issue, yet many people are still citing problems online about the latest Forester models.
Are all the problems, those Foresters, Imprezas, Outbacks etc. with manual transmissions, or are CVT also affected?
Consumer Reports does have a 2015 article that cites excessive oil consumption is NOT normal. Yet, Subaru in addition to Audi - state that a certain amount is normal. That normal amount of oil burning can cost a pretty penny between oil changes especially when synthetic oil is required. We're not talking about a quart here or there and a few bucks, we're talking complete small-block engine replacements under warranty - multiple times. What happens to your car when you're out of warranty? Good luck.
This is how Consumer Reports seems confusing to me - contradictory in fact to even remotely recommend these vehicles. It really makes me question their recommendations at all.
I have a 2013 Outback with the 4 cylinder engine and have never had any oil or other engine or transmission issues.
Oil consumption is directly related to break in..... Subaru says to not rev the motor past 5,000 RPM for the first 1,000 miles. Also vary the RPM during that process. I have followed this procedure with three Subaru’s. I have yet to have a oil consumption problem with any of the three.(14Crosstrek, 16Forrester 2.5, 17WRX Base). The people that have had the most problems are the ones that have not followed proper break in....
I have a 2011 legacy 3.6r and have never had an oil consumption issue. Had a timing cover leak which was rather expensive but never had any other mechanical issue
Miss July It has been my experience that with proper break in( not over 5000 rpm sustained, for the first 1,000 miles and no wide open throttle when cold)your chances of oil consumption will be less. Just note...... ALL engines consume some oil during break in and even after. It’s not uncommon to consume maybe 1/4 of a quart between changes....
glad watching your channel grow. it's great being a part of something from the beginning. great stuff man, keep up the good work.
Thanks dude!
Nice video, T-WRX! As a new Subaru owner (2019 Forester 2.5i base), I did read about the oil and head gasket issues, which is why I went with a newer model...hoping that Subaru resolved them. Looks like yours is doing good, and thanks again for this positive video!
I had a 2016 Forester XT Premium, did oil changes every 6,000 miles, and it never burned a drop of oil. Traded it in after 26,000 miles for a WRX STI, which burns very minimal oil between changes, again every 6,000 miles.
Had a brand new GTI about 20 years ago. On the first trip for an oil change, the BMW mechanic torqued the threads right out of the block. Cost me $300 to get fixed and always dripped afterwards. The car after that was a Civic. I put the valve in the day I bought the car and have been changing the oil MYSELF for the past 20 years!
These are the stories that keep me at home in my garage!
Wow the drain valve is so simple and so genius. Definitely worth the buck
Agreed, its been great so far!
This is why I drive since new a 2009 Mazda 3 s hatchback 2.3 with 5 speed auto and 195,000 miles. I have been dumping money lately for suspension parts at all four corners and a trans module. A trans module is not a rebuild. At the end of the last 5000 mile oil change interval I got back from a 2000 mile Marathon trip in 50 hours. Car ran like a champ. Did not burn or leak a drop of synthetic oil.
really like the channel, you seem like a really awesome dude my man. appreciate the time you take to make these vids :)
Thanks man! I'm happy you guys are enjoying them!
T-WRX for sure dude, you're one of the few subaru enthusiast channels doin' it right, keep it up ^_^
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Ive got an Impreza and it hasn’t used a drop of oil in a year. Only done 5000 miles in it since then but I do get the revs up high fairly regularly. Impressive engineering.
The Ford EcoBoost has the same problem, because of block ventilation. As the oil circulates and blows out the PVC valve it shoots oil directly into your intake and can cause oil loss. this can be fixed with an oil separator catch can that separates the air from the oil that goes back into your intake and returns the oil back to your crankcase.
Interesting to know, thanks man!
5000 miles on my 17 xt and I haven't had any issues with oil consumption hopefully it stays that way 👍👌 love the channel dude keep em comming.
Nice man, thanks for the support!
I've got a 2013 SJ XT. still doesn't burn any oil after 96k/km. CVT works very well. I'm happy with it. great car, love it
fumoto valve is awesome. put mine in after first oil I did when I got the car. good thing to as it saves your knuckles from the nice sharp around the plug
Agree, love the Fumoto!
I've been using Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 in my 10 Legacy 3.6R for several years now, never had any issue with it. My local dealer parts manager mentioned that bottled oil sold by Subaru Canada are essentially OEM packaged Mobile 1.
Yeah Subaru Oil in the US is actually made by Idemitsu. Thanks for the input on Penn Platinum!
T-WRX alot of ppl say the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 is the best for the fa20. i've been using it just bc of what I read in a total of like 5 mins of research haha! its probably not necessary
"ultra" platinum huh? I wonder what the difference is in the ultra?
in my country ( in Curacao ) we use Pennzoil for Subaru and I use it to in my Altezza
2017 foresters come with a plastic door over the drain plugs. Only on non turbo if I'm not mistaken. It is just push clips to remove it. Working for subaru and my wife having a 2016 wrx. I find the FA20 takes around 5.5 quarts to have it at full. The recommended 5.4 never seems to be enough.
I put in 5.5 actually!
T-WRX good man! Awesome to hear when people give that kind of attention to their car. As a fellow turbo Subaru you got mad respect from me bro.
They fixed the oil burn issue for 2015 models and beyond. my dad was wondered about the Same thing. so he got the 15 model and hasn't burn any oil at all.
Good to know!
Which engine 2.5 CVT, or 2.0 Turbo CVT?
I have a 2015 Legacy 2.5 i premiun and it currently has 71 k miles, bought it brand new and i have had the low oil light come on twice in 4 years that i had it, i added a quart of oil and it took care of the low oil light
The under coat by subaru is to help prevent rust and from salt damage during winter.
My 2012 Subaru Impreza never burnt oil like the other cars around that year, but it did blow up the engine at 45,000 miles.
How?
I have a 2015 Forester. It consumes about 1 quart between oil changes. I am at 55,000 miles. Didn’t start consuming till about 20,000 miles. I did a proper breakin and I always wait for the engine to warm and idle down before I load the engine.
Well my 2017 2.5 non turbo does in fact have covers underneath and they have to be removed to access the oil drain plug. You are welcome to drive over here and look at it yourself.
Jerry Faircloth xts only I guess!
Not using your two year complimentary services? They'll check for recalls, etc. too. And make sure you document or else Subaru may void your warranty as they need to track consistent maintenance per proof should something go wrong.
STIzilla he has these videos as proof of maintenance.
I actually didn't get 2 years of maintenance when I purchased. But honestly its more about the time saving than the money. It takes like 2+ hours when you count drive time and such to go get an oil change at the dealer. I can do it in like 30 mins at home, its worth the effort to me! But I document everything anyway, receipts, mileages etc.
STIzilla Subaru only offers the complimentary maintenance in certain markets, I believe the ones that aren't typically their strong hold.
Nice review, you do a great job. My parents and I have owned a total of five Subarus. Two Forresters (2004) my parents bought, two Outbacks (2014, 2015) my parents bought, and a 2013 Legacy I bought. Of the two Forresters, only one started burning oil (it was the 2.0 L turbo unit) at 140,000 miles. That is not great but not horrible. I have been the unlucky one with the 3.6L H6. It burns 1.5 quarts every 2.000 miles - which is not enough. It started burning at 47,000 miles. I change the oil every 5000 like you. Subaru claims that now i should put in 6.9 quarts (not 6 quarts recommended) and burn through the extra oil until the next oil change. I burn 1.9 quarts and check the oil level religiously as I know I will have to refill it once before 5000 miles. Subaru says it is good for the environment - my car is definitely not as I put out a ton of burnt oil constantly. I barely passed emissions last time. If it fails next time, I will have a stronger case for an engine replacement.
Sweet man, glad to hear the car is holding up well
Yeah man so far so good!
zero issues with my 16 WRX with 16,000 miles, but a family member had a blown gasket from the oil consumption issue in a 2014 Cross Trk with less than 50,000 miles
Dang, FA motor for the win I guess.
Would definitely hope for no oil consumption at only 10k miles! I'm at 164k+ miles on my 2007 Legacy, losing about a quart every 2500 miles or so. Coolant looks ok right now. Head gasket job was done with the timing belt at 90k miles. No transmission issues - that's the deal breaker for me with new Subarus. Just don't trust a CVT to last that long.
Hi.Chuck (Charles?) - here in Australia I’ve owned 10 Subarus over 40 years (Leone, Liberty, WRX, Outback and Forester) my 1997 Forester got to $425k before the camshaft seized - never had oil/coolant level or head gasket issues and all these vehicles had high kms - only updated due to lifestyle changes - I stopped at 2013 models because of the CVT issues around 60k-100k for the 2013-2017 Forester/XV/Impreza models - I believe the CVT has been Improved for the 2019 onwards? It’s five years since your video and was wondering how the XT is now? John in SA
Thanks for the video. I have a 2014 XT with over 50K miles and it's never used a drop of oil.
Nice! Good news!
I'm looking to buy a 2015 xt and I'm worry about that consume is yours still ok?
Great video. Does that valve ever leak? What brand is it? Thanks
Based on my research the oil consumption is only for the non-turbo '11-'15 foresters. You're safe with the XT from what I've seen. This issue is keeping me from buying a non-turbo forester right now...
Buy the turbo!
I would if there were any used ones in my area haha. I check the CPO site every day
The oil consumption issue was the main reason I didn't buy a 2014 Forester...I was hoping this issue was resolved in later models of the Forester.
Is it resolved now ?
Subaru's oil is Idemitsu. It's on Amazon and it isn't priced bad at all! Just FYI if you want to buy the Subaru oil but don't want to pay for the Subaru wrap on the jug. ;)
The turbo's don't tend to burn as much oil. the fb series motors burn more and have cam carrier issues(leak). the manuals (forester 2.5i, impreza and outback(canada still gets man) the cars the burn the useless 0w20 oil tend to burn it off...
Good tips! People ask me all the time though!
Ok Group, What oil consumption do you think would make you happy?
ie 500, 1000 ,2000 ,5000 ,10000, 20000, 50000 miles per quart?
Do think a car that uses oil at 10,000 miles per quart is better than one that uses oil at 2000 mile per quart?
Nice video. I like where the oil filter is located. I have an 09 Forester with the non-turbo 2.5 with 92k miles and no oil consumption, but when I change the filter it's a mess underneath. I'm thinking of getting an Outback in about one year.
Agreed, the new filter location is amazing!
I have a 2017 Forester premium 2.5L with 21k on the clock and zero oil consumption. Not a drop of oil consumed at all. Last oil change was 3k ago and just checked it today, all good.
How many miles now? Any issues now?
Unfortunately I am seeing Oil Consumption issues on the Impreza 2013 (Canada) now that we are approach our 5th year. The last two oil changes (at 7500 km each) we lost 1 litre of oil each change (down to first notch on the dip stick. Typically all city driving and oil change is done at the 6 month mark. Subaru recommends 6 months or 10,000 km (which ever comes first). Subaru also claims that it is ok to lose 1 litre of oil for 2000 km. So we are off to our first oil consumption test.
2014 - 2016 Forester had oil burning issue -- class action lawsuit , also class action lawsuit against the CVT transmission. Glad you're not dealing with the oil burning. (Had major oil burning issue and Subaru would not fix it, CVT was going bad but they wouldn't fix that either, and head gasket leaking) All of this below 80k miles, and I changed the oil less than 5k miles and took care of that car. In my experience Subarus are not reliable and the problems I experienced are pretty normal with them. I'll never have one again. Hope you have a different experience with yours.
Earlier cars have it as well. I own a 2013 Legacy that also burns oil, but it is the only issue with the car after 85,000 miles. No repairs needed (and Subaru said the engine burning I have is normal as it is minor).
A man that talk from experience and not from "i heard this I've heard that"
Great video subaru are the best !
The short nipple fumoto valve is a better choice in my opinion because it doesn't hang as low. I owned a 2019 WRX with this engine for 40,000 miles, changing it every 5000 miles with Motul X-Clean 5w30, and it never burned any oil. I don't think it was ever an issue on this particular engine. It was mostly on their naturally aspirated engines that take 0w20.
i thought it was only the 2.5 engines that had oil consumption issues. My 14 xt didn't but it did smell like oil.
Yeah maybe it was, but I get that question constantly.
CVT - what's the problem? If I wanted to slam gears from light to light I would have bought an STI or some other road rocket. For what I need in a car, the CVT works fine.
you know I think the oil consumption thing is weird. every wrx I have owned had sucked up oil like crazy. ej20 ej25 but now my fa20 is fine. I think people just don't pay attention to their oil till it's too late. esp when the dealership tells you 6k+ miles between oil changes(that's what mine says anyways). oddly enough my 15FXT and WRX doesn't consume oil at all. great channel. subscribed!!
Awesome video. Just purchased a pre-owned 2017 XT Touring! Your videos were helpful in confirming my purchase and I will definitely refer back to them for maintenance!
Just had my 2016 Forester MT in at the dealer for oil consumption. It was burning 1 qt every 1k miles. Subaru covered it under the powertrain warranty and replaced the entire shortblock. Yes, it's still a problem.
Good video. But I want to ask some questions. Was the car driven before the oil change to warm the oil? Was the oil filler cap opened before you release the old oil on the bottom of the engine? Why do you nt remove the old oil filter during the drain of the old oil? By the way your garage looks tidy.
Yes it was warm, I did pull the cap to release any vacuum. I was less thorough in this video because I did a video on the oil change process a few months back. I didn't remove the filter while draining the oil because the car was on the lift and I couldn't reach it if I'm honest! Thanks for watching!
I have Forester 2013 ..It is very wonderful
Just did the oil in my 05 Legacy GT. Fighting with the filter made me long for an FA motor with the top mount filter.
Yeah I've got an STi as well. Hate the oil changes!
Oh right, forgot the STI has an EJ!
after doing a lil research, subaru CVT is the best period. its the reason why everyone has a CVT in now
But what about Boxerengine and servicing price!?
I have a normally aspirated '16 with 20k on it. The CVT is very nice, though sometimes while entering a freeway, I wish there was more. The care is scary amazing in the snow.
HI there! really appreciate your helpful video! We're getting a compact suv for our 20 year old daughter. But we can't decide between the Forester with eyesight and the Rav 4. Which would you recommend? Do you think or know if the 2018 model would have oil consumption issue? Or other mechanical issues?
Hi - great video. We have non turbo Foresters - 2017 and 2014. Older Subarus are notorious for head gasket failures. I have been told that there has been a recent redesign of the head gaskets. What is your view and what is your opinion regarding frequency of coolant changes? Thanks!
what was your deciding factor of choosing the forester over the outback
My Wife & I bought a 2018 forester 2.5 Prem & I just discovered your channel thanks for your videos cool tips I'm going to keep up w/your channel 👍👏
For a daily gas saver I really enjoyed the 2013 Legacy, the CVT was not bad. I can only imagine the newer models have a better behaving CVT...Subaru should keep it out of the "sporty" packages though :\.
I'm looking at a 2018 Forester and people have warned me about a head gasket problem. It appears this has been fixed, but were you ever concerned about having to replace head gaskets before 100,000 miles before you bought you 2017?
15k subs before 15k miles? LET'S GO
Awww hells yeah
about to have my first oil change (just ticked over 6k today!) and I was initially very worried about this, but I checked my fluid levels not that long ago and everything seems okay.
Sick video either way Chuck!
Yeah man, no issues thus far! Thanks for watching!
Last time I head they changed the internal workings of the motor and fixed the oil problem
I got a 2013 legacy I4 and at 100k miles it started to burn a half to a quart of oil between oil changes. I just carry oil w me all the time. I’m at 146k miles now.
liked this episode. i wonder where you got the oil valve. i have a subaru xv fb20 engine. i do the oil change myself but dont have a lifter. the oil valve should come in handy. thanks andmore power
THanks for watching!
I have a Forester 2016 Limited and what do you think about using Royal Purple with there filter as well? I have no complaints about my choice and I'm on 7,540 miles. My work is only 2 1/2 miles from home and I'm really looking forward to doing a road trip in August from L.A. LA. and Austin! Great lift!
As long as it meets their specs you should be good! Thanks for watching!
Wayne....I think you are wasting hard-earned money on Royal purple. Thanks.
Why wouldn't you want your CVT to "hang" at one particular RPM? That's the whole point of a CVT. Your engine only makes peak power or peak fuel efficiency at one particular RPM so the point of a CVT is to be able to keep you at the peak RPM through acceleration as opposed to going past the peak in your powerband and then having to shift and drop back down below the peak in your powerband, being far less efficient.
Because its so foreign to the what everyone is used too. Your brain is very used to hearing the engine RPM go up and down, it strays from that expected behavior. I agree that the entire point of the CVT is to keep it inside of its ideal power band. But that doesn't mean the sounds it makes aren't irritating. Look up Nissan CVT complaints, its a pretty big annoyance.
T-WRX Well, I'm not really too sure what to say to that. It's pretty dumb to buy a product and then get mad at it for doing its job exactly how it is supposed to do it. It's also pretty stupid to say "this isn't what I'm used to or have had in the past... so I don't like it."
Haha I didn't say it was smart to buy a CVT if you hate them, but in the case of the 2017 Forester XT if you love everything else about it.... CVT is your only option as a transmission. So with this channel I encourage people to not let the typical "I hate CVT mindset" prevent them from buying one. Good or bad, it doesn't behave as anticipated when in Sport mode, this is probably intentional by the engineers at Subaru. I'm sure its been programmed to "simulate" gears because they know the majority of the market isn't accepting of the typical CVT behavior. "this isn't what I'm used to or have had in the past... so I don't like it." is unfortunately human nature.
Hi, I am writing from Singapore, I own a Subaru Forester SH5 model ( None Turbo) year 2009 done 140,000 KM) -87,500miles no oil consumption issues, NO OIL LEAK , Handling was Excellent as As i often drove across to Malaysia traveling North -South Express way using SAE 10W 30 Full systematic any brand oil used changed my oil & filter every 10K kilometer local temperature 35 to 37 degree C ? and last and not least- it will be 10 years this July 19.
Nice video. I heard somewhere that Subaru did address the 2017 vehicles oil consumption "problem." I have a question for you and that is the rack you have on top of your Forester. Is it a stock factory rack? I have a 2017 Forester as well and am thinking of adding one to mine. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
Nope its from amazon actually! I did a video on it!
I know you personally like servicing your Forester and STI, did you buy extended warranty on both vehicle?
Whats the name of that valve for draining oil, where to buy one? Thx
Fumoto, they are available on Amazon! amzn.to/2f6KWwy
i don't know subaru filter is better than Ultra Fram. Heard subaru filter is from Fram but don't know what grade they are using. Some 5w30 is not meeting ILSAC-GF5. Slight viscosity difference and others tune to European fuel.
Once my Legacy passed 290k miles I have been giving it nothing but best. SuperTech 10w40 costs $11 for a jug of 5 quarts. Funny thing is that it sounds better now than it did with Castrol which was $16 a jug. Lets see how long it runs on this shit.
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Hello, How much engine oil do you charge? Is it about 4.73L ?
5.5 Quarts so about 5.205 liters
I was curious on the oil for the newer Subaru motors. Considering buying a forester shorty. But yea, that pennzoil is great. My 2az burned oil with Mobil 1 and castrol. Put the same stuff in you did (5w-20) and it dramatically slowed down.
Awesome!
so are you saying that the brand of oil you put in the car can make a difference on if it burns or consumes oil ?
Very nice video. Now I want a lift too. My 2011 Forester (non-turbo FB25) just went out of warranty and I was wondering if I should keep using 0W-20 oil (I use Mobil1 full syn.) I have seen some chatter around the web that the thinner oil is only recommended to improve Subaru's fleet mileage standard. Is there another weight oil that would better extend my engine life? Using very little oil now at 100,000+ miles even with the dreaded FB25.
I wonder..what are the differences in oil specs if Subaru says every 6000 miles (about 10000 km) in North America? when in Sweden they say every 9500 miles (15000 km)
If it burns oil why not try a 5w-40 oil? That i swhat i would have done.
It doesn't burn any so far.
Hi, excellent video, congratulations. I have a question, do you lose the Subaru warranty when you make the oil change on your own? (In my country you lose it in this case) what does the Subaru policy say about it? Thank you!
Nope, its illegal to require maintenance be done at the dealer in the US.
The Suburu warranty book clearly states they cannot deny you warranty coverage if you do the work yourself or do not do it at all!
I really like the cvt for fuel economy and sport for when getting down to business the fact it stays at that rpm give me hope I can make good fuel economy on a turbo then that of a non turbo the fact you can get v6 power from a cylinder and Have an ok power to weight with some good fuel economy specially one of the best awd systems is all good in my book and full synthetic is awesome giving better protection for the turbo
If I may recommend I use it for my mercury Milan v6 and that is marvel mystery oil it's awesome cleans your fuel lines unclogs injectors and gives proper lubrication to the fuel which in reality your car needs and today's fuel doesn't have that anymore since it has ethanol which I believe they use in the fuel to remove to help keep the moisture out
Chuck, thanks for this excellent video. What OEM tires came with your Forester and how are they performing? Just bought the 2017 Forester 2.5i. The OEM tires were Yokohama G91. They don't get good reviews and I'm wondering if I should replace them. I'm talking with the dealership about a tire trade. Thanks.
On my 2014 2.5 I replaced the stock G91 with Continental True Contact. Huge difference. Excellent dry and wet grip and no more squealing noise when turning into parking space. They now have 29,000 miles on them with good tread left.
Did you buy it new? If so was the undercoating from the factory?
Another great video dude! Keep it up!
Thanks my friend!
I had a short block replacement at 55k on my 2014 2.5i. No issues since then with oil consumption
dang, had to have the block replaced? What was the issue? Oil consumption?
I have over 190,000 kms (118,000 miles) on my 14 Forester XT. The comments saying this engine doesn't burn oil are simply false. For the first 15,000 kms this engine used a lot of oil but afterward became tolerable in warm months. However, in very cold temperatures oil consumption gets worse until when the ambient temperature falls below -30C this car is basically useless as it will burn 1 liter in 300 kms. When the temperatures improve the oil consumption mysteriously disappears. Subaru dealer seems unable to even have a suggestion what the issue is. Also had a cat failure around 130,000 kms which the dealer did not want to cover with warranty, probably related to oil issue. I wish I had not bought this car. Engine is now running extremely poorly especially at idle. I am thinking this is probably a valve issue due to oil consumption and the direct injection not cleaning the valves. My last Subaru. :(
92k on my 14 XT. Burns/loses no oil and the CVT is fine. Amazing how well these cars last when you're not using a family car as a race car.
Thanks for sharing your experience! What's the maintenance on the turbo like?
My 2014 XT on 50k miles is smooth and I can't see any oil usage. Quality full synthetic oil is a must for any turbo Scooby 😎
Nice video! An update? Issues?
Thanks!!
Still no issues! Forester is running great!
did you test drive the CRV in your shopping? who makes your roof rack?
My mom actually has a CRV that i've driven many times, it's a good car but it doesn't have a higher power engine option which was the turnoff for me. Here is a link to the rack amzn.to/2eYyHTM I did a video on the install etc. if you are interested. Thanks for watching!
after 90 000 my 2014 FXT needed a full valve job
Do you take your cap off before you put the car on the lift for an oil change? What made you decide a drive on lift vs 2 post.?
Quick question, do you have any problems with sun glare on the piano black? Specifically the trim around the shifter. Whenever the sun is vaguely overhead I have an insane amount of glare directly into my eyes and I can't figure out of it's just my car or all the foresters with piano black.
Do you keep the sunroof panel open? I don't ever notice any glare on those pieces.
I don't and that's the weird parts. Plus my front windows are tinted so it has to be coming in through the windshield.
Hey Man. Quick question. I am strongly interested in the Forester XT. I am glad to hear that you are getting 27 mpg in commuting. From a fuel tank, how many miles of cruising range does the XT get? From an empty tank, how many gallons due it take to fill up? Do you have to use premium or does regular work?
Sorry for the huge amount of questions but I feel an owner will be more honest that a dealer.
Thanks Bud!
Another informative video. Great stuff. Keep up the good work!
Thank you sir!
Nice video! Did you add MOA to engine which my dealer does? Shops in my area mostly sell 5.0 litter oil/ bottle. What do you suggest for keeping the un-used but bottle opened oil for the next use, about a half year? Thanks
Thanks for your nice video. I have one question, how easy is it to change or clean spark plugs in a boxer engine ? And the how is the general maintenance and repairs of a Subaru engine compared to conventional engines. Does it requires specialized training ?
Spark plugs are a little hard to get to than an inline motor where they are all on top, but it can be done. Maintenance is similar to most other cars, nothing really different except a few jobs are made a little harder to do when its time. Spark plugs, head gaskets etc.
Thanks my friend
Spark plugs are pointless item to mess with. Once you get the quality Denso units, they are good for 200k miles.
Y10Q Spark plugs are a wear item, it varies by car as to how often you should change them.
Generally, 30-50k is the max you can get out of them.
If your car burns oil, expect less. One of my Subaru's burned oil, by 15k miles the plugs would be out of spec and covered in thick deposits.
Unless you are constantly loading the engine or racing it to redline, you will never see any difference between 200k mile units and brand new ones. If the spark plugs are constantly being damaged, you got bigger fish to fry. I have put over 230k miles on my 2001 wagon and most of that on single set of spark plugs. The more you mess with them, the more of a chance you have to fuck up something. I only change the spark plugs when I first get the car and leave it till the wheels fall off. This is not a lawn mower we are talking about.
Two questions: How does the Forester w/leather handle the WDC summers? Would you consider mud flaps (OEM or 3rd party) purely from a dirt mitigation perspective?
Love the channel, great videos! Can you make a tour of the Forester? the features, inside? And other things in it, like a review! thanks!
Sure man, I'll add it to the list!