EASIEST oil change ever!! 2017 Subaru Forester XT!
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- Hey friends! Today we do our first oil change on the 2017 Subaru Forester XT! I also decided to install a Fumoto Oil Drain valve!! Thanks for watching!!
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I love this guy because of his total honesty. Thank you so much. This was one of the reasons I wanted to get a Subaru--because of wear the oil filter is situated.
Well done. Lots of good advice. Didn't realize I didn't need to jack up the car. Now I think I'll change the oil in my 2017 Forester.
Nice! Also have a 2017 Forester. With the filter being on top like that, I started using EWK extractor. You have to get the hang of getting tube in right, but you never get under the car. First time, I pulled plug after extracting - not a single drop came out.
Thanks a lot brother!
First time I see an oil filter like this one on a car
Turned out to be easier than what I thought
A lot of people complain that the initial oil filter removal is a hard and I would bet this is because they don’t pre-coat the oil filter’s rubber seal before installation. Great video!
With the drain plug, I just let it fall in the oil collector pan. Then I use a magnetic pen to fish it out and wipe it off with a shop rag. Very easy and no mess. Thanks for the video. Much easier than my 2000 Subaru Outback!
Helpful video, thank you! Our daughter took her Subaru, Forrester to Jiffy Lube and now oil is everywhere. They are trying to say they didn't do it? Ridiculous statement! It was fine before the oil change and now it's leaking around the plug. Thank you for helping understand what might have happened. Thank you for your wealth of information. Cheers.
Not having to remove the under trey is a big improvement. Good video, thanks!
Agreed! I really enjoyed how easy it was!
Great videos, thanks for making them.
One suggestion for not spilling the oil when removing the drain plug is to leave the oil cap/filter/etc in place, remove the drain plug first then open them up to let the oil drain faster. This way the oil won't come out as forcefully just when the drain plug is removed. I do put rugs around the pan anyway, just in case.
Good idea! Thanks for checking out the video!
I always liked Castrol. And kitty litter is great for sucking oil out of concrete,. Your little pluggie thing is great!. Thanks for a fun video.
Thanks for watching! I threw some kitty litter down after the video!
That is the most satisfying oil filter I've ever seen on any car.
It's pretty amazing.
Love my Forester for the jackless oil change.
Thank you so much for this video. I look forward to starting to change my own oil from now on 😌
As the oil filter is remote mounted and up high, if you change the filter first it will allow the oil galleries to drain back into the sump better and give you a more complete oil change.
Fumoto is the way to go , the only thing i used different was the Subaru crush washer . my 01 forester started to leak after a yr being on .
Love your videos man! Very informative. Probably going to be doing my own oil changes from now on on my Impreza Sport! Cheers!
Thank you!
My 2016 wrx no belly pan either. Love how Subaru has made changes to this cars make things easier
Yeah all the new FA motors get that easy oil change life!
Lol I guess so Let me know if you ever have issue u notice with the oem oil. Think I'm going back to amsoil you can't bake that stuff
Thanks for the information and how-to. Love your videos man!
Thanks! I'm glad they are of use to someone!
Good video man! As someone who works at a dealership (not specifically Subaru and not USA) but the mating surface is always cleaned in our workshop to prevent debris on the seal from causing leaks. I'm not sure if Subaru America is the same but in Australia they recommend you check the oil on a level surface, with the engine at operating temperature, leaving it for 5 minutes after switching off.
Also be aware that fully synthetic oil will expand quite a lot compared to conventional mineral and even semi synthetic oil. So if it's just under the max mark, it will expand up to the max mark when hot.
Like the ease of the FA motor, but still love my ej25 turbo forester haha
Thanks for the tips man! The FA is so easy, but I do love my STI and am happy to put up with the belly pan every few thousand miles!
After loosening the filter slightly, punch a hole in the top of it, which releases the vacuum pressure and allows the oil to drain out much more efficiently.
it shouldn't matter which brand oil you use as long as the brand and type meet the Subaru spec...when I do my oil/filter change, I like to write on the filter the date, mileage, & oil type on the filter as a reminder of the last change...I know there are papers/stickers for this, but the filter cap works too...silver sharpie FTW...I also write the dates of changes on my air and cabin filters to make sure I don't go too long between changes.
Good tip man! I like that idea!
Great Video man! Also, speaking of motor oils, I use Mobil1 5W30 Extended Performance for my 10 Legacy and 5W20 for my Mazda6. Great Motor oils with Mobil1 filters. A little expensive but its worth it. Real smooth running on both my cars!
Cool man! I used to be a mobile 1 guy as well. I've gone away from it for my subarus because of a few oil analysis posts I read on the forums, but I may just be paranoid!
It is a matter of preference, to be honest. Yet maybe because I switched from Firestone's Pennzoil or Quaker State, Mobil1 runs a lot smoother on both my cars. Also, can you post the link from where you bought that plug for your oil drain? That sounds like a very smart idea to avoid the mess in the garages and elsewhere.
If you fill the new filter with oil, you will prevent the engine running dry for a few seconds after the first start after the oil change. Turn it over quickly and spin it on.
Hi,
Do you have to reset the oil dilution on your motor like we have to do here in Europe on the 2.0 X?
i have a 2019 Subaru Forester, is the drain plug on your 2017 xt the same size? what size is yours I think mine is a "11mm"
Many people seem to favor pennzoil platinum for the FA. I used it on my FXT and I believe it meets the same standards as the subie oil. Very cheap price, seem to run fine. Subispeed sells the black Tokyo Roki filters for pretty cheap. Not sure if they are better, but that's what the car comes with from the dealer
I actually used to use Pennzoil Platinum on my previous WRX! It did show good results from the oil testing I'd seen people do online. I may go back to using it. Thanks for the tip on the black filters!
For the drain valve, do u know the different between F108 and F108-N? Also which one should I use?
Great job as usual bro!! Good video!!
Thank you sir!
Thanks for great video! I have a forester xt 2017 ,90 000 km. Im curious what you think about oilchange in the automatic gearbox - cvt . subaru says it isnt necessary at all. Whats your opinion? Is it ok to do a couple of 1/3 part change every other year as it passes 90 000 km?
Thank you!
Ulf Åkerman
Chuck, did you end up switching from Subaru oil? If so, what did you go with?
So do you have to have that tool for the oil filter or can I twist it off by hand
I really wish my 2019 3.6R Outback had that oil filter placement......but I'll trade the extra power for convenience any day.
T-REX, so did you have to add the additional .4 of a quart?
Thanks for sharing the link to the oil filter wrench. I had a hard time finding one I could use on my Legacy, and the one I ended up buying doesn't work anywhere near as well as that one!
No worries man! The link is actually to the new and improved version of mine. But either way its been a life saver many times!
Hi, have you ever done a upper engine cleaning?
I just bought a 2017 subaru forester...the dealer did an oil change before I bought it. My question is...if the car calls for 0w20,is it safe to use 5w30?
Hi T-WRX. Thank you for the great video. It's really easy for a noob like me to follow. I am wondering if you have installed Rear Sway Bar for Forester. If you have, I would appreciate a lot if you post an installation video.
I've never done a sway bar on the forester, thanks for checking out the videos!
Yeah, I think the forester XT could use a rear sway bar. A little floppy near the limits, especially with a few bumps on the corner.
Awesome vid man. Did you hit the T-WRX Rev limiter trying to pull off that factory filter 7:14 ... ? LOL
Also, Fram made something like this back in the 90's. I ran one on my Toyota rock crawlers (3.0 V6's) and they worked great with the hose. I'll have to checkout fumoto. Than kyou
Always like to watch your videos. One suggestion is turn your one gallon ie "oil or antifreeze jugs" sideways. That is the way it was designed to be poured so you wont have any splashing. Keep them coming really like seeing any modding for the Subies.
Good tip! Thanks dude!
I want that style in my old body haha my knuckles are all burned jk I got k&n so the nut on end helps... but filter on top awesome!
awsome vid. I reallllly need to get one of those drain valves.
Yeah man, they are great!
Not so good when you're doing offroad.
I was so old school up to about 3 years ago and I'm 42. I did changes every 3000 miles/3 months. And you know what, the engine and transmission in my 1999 Ford Taurus never had any internal engine issues and the car has 250,000 miles. Sadly it's the rust that will do the car in. I should have washed the car every week.
Edit: Dude, use a card board boxes under the area and buy a box of cheap disposable gloves at harbor freight.
My friend, you can use whatever oil manufacturer you like without voiding the warranty as long as it meets the manufacturer recommendations for weight. This is all in accordance with The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975.
Thanks for the info, I'm familiar with all of this. I just have not decided which I want to use yet!
Thanks for the heads up on the Fumoto drain valve. I just did my first oil change@ 2000 miles on my 2017 Forster 2.5 . I'm assuming that valve will also fit the 2.5 Forrester 👍🏻👍🏻😎
I think its actually a different part! Check out Fumotos website they will give you the correct part number!
Thank you and happy Thanksgiving 👍🏻😎🐔
www.fumotousa.com/results.php?make=77&year=2017&model=35527&makeid=SUBARU&modelid=FORESTER+2.5L+H4
Looks like it is better to do it with the plastic elbow and drain hose for the 2.5. The valve with the long nipple doesn't seem to be an option.
Fumoto is even better if you get some tubing to go with it! But yeah there are huge stains on my driveway from my pre-Fumoto change... :(
Yeah man I need some tubing!
did you have to take the skid plate off?
My new 2017 Forester has a little bit up 1000 mileage. Temperature here in Seattle is around 40F, my Forester doesn't "gear-up" when speed up and maintains at high RPM at the beginning of 5-7 mins after engine has a "cold-start" (after overnight parking). It gears up and rpm drops to below 2000 when speed below 60 mph after 7 mins of driving. Is this something like cold-engine-protection in order to warm up engine oil quickly? This is kind of annoying when speed up climbing uphill at early morning heading to work. It takes 15 mins driving to work and half of time is in "cold-engine" status and fuel consumption is higher than average. Any guys have same issue? Thanks!
You should add how to reset the Service Reminder
I will recommend Chevron Havoline Pro DS 5w-30 superb 👍
Great video! One question that I had was if the Fumoto threads up into the oil pan to far causing a lip and all the oil won't drain do to the threads?
Originally I thought the Fumoto valve was a great idea but after reading your comment I realized that you'd always accumulate sludge on the threads inside the valve threads. Excellent video though, very thorough.
great video like always
Thanks my friend!
schaeffer oil i think is the best. nice vid bro
Cool man I'll check it out! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing the video! How secure is the new drain plug? Do they make one for the challenger hellcat ? Or for German cars?
No issues with the plug so far. They have them for all different makes. Check out the Fumoto website and they'll give you the part number, then most likely available on Amazon!
5:09 First world problems.
that oil filter on top like that is nice...
Yeah that was an amazing decision by subaru!
Hell yeah Fumoto valve FTW!!!
Awww hells yeah!
Why buy
chuck are you having any oil consumption issues on the car ?
thunder0ne100 i think i asked him this and his vehicles didnt suffer from this
Blake's Garage b
Thanks & always drop off used oil at the right drop off!
You need Mityvac Fluid Evacuator if you do a lot of oil change yourself, don't even need to get under the vehicle.
Looks pretty cool!
Neat.
Thanks! Did you have to buy a crush washer for the fumoto valve or did you just used the supplied washer?
I used the one included, its like a fiber one.
You made sure to use Subaru oil so as not to risk voiding the warranty, but installed an aftermarket valve instead of reusing the drain plug? I doubt the brand of oil can be determined easily, but I'm pretty sure they'd notice the drain plug was replaced.
Luv my Fumoto! Pro tip: Next time, try pouring the oil from the jug with the opening "up" (i.e. "overhand") instead of "down"; you get a lot more control and less gurgling / splashing.
Do you happen to know if that drain valve will work in the other models too? I have a 2017 Legacy. I too am interested to know your take on the "blue vs black" filter issue. I just passed 5000 miles.
They sell a drain valve that will fit your car for sure. I just went to the Fumoto website and put in my car's info and they'll give you the part number. Found it on amazon! I'm in the boat that the blue filter is fine, maybe its not quite as good as the black but its way easier to get and approved by Subaru. If you keep your oil fresh and filters fresh I don't see the issue!
I am not familiar with but love the idea of the fumoto drain plug but worry about the lever switching open while driving thru rough terrain, brush, or snow. Is this a valid concern?
BTW, love the oil filter wrench.
It doesnt sit that low actually, you'd probably be scraping some other stuff before the drain plug. But they sell a separate clip that snaps on and keeps the actual valve lever closed for extra protection! It's like $5 extra.
Hey Chuck! Out of curiosity, are you aware if anyone adds oil to the new filter before installing? Maybe less strain on the oil pump? Not sure if that is even an issue? Keep the content coming! Nice work sir.
Yes, many people do. I always do on the STi but it doesn't have to be flipped upside down to be installed. On the forester its hard to do and not spill it!
Anyone know the difference between the black and the blue Forester oil filters? Is there one particular filter that is best for a 2017 2.5i Premium engine?
There are many threads across all the subaru forums with people debating the benefits of each.
Thinking about buying another Subaru. I want something that sits higher and has a better seating position, so I'm considering a Forester. I had a 2012 Impreza and the only thing I did't like was the CVT transmission. It was difficult for me to get use at first for some reason. I know that the Forester's have very good ratings.
I've grown used to the CVT in our forester. It doesn't really bother me and I flip between the manual STI and the forester almost daily.
I have a 2015 Subaru forester. Literally only changed the only, at 40K miles, only a few problems. One, the windshield collect cracks extremely easily (even after replacement), and the tires were out of alignment pretty quick (may have been that way when purchased). Bought it brand new. Air gauge shuts off immediately after filling a tire. Its a good car. About 22 mpg average.
I have an 09 Forester, no mechanical problems. I have gone through 4 windshields and 2 crack repairs. I don't know why any tiny rock cracks the windshield.
You want a Legacy Limited 👌🏻
First oil change on my 2016 WRX was also an oily mess when draining. The threads on the drain bolt were surprisingly short causing the hot oil to splash on my hand and driveway. Was it like that on the Forester XT ?
The drain plug was so small compared to the EJ motor! I think that was part of my problem too!
Maybe lay cardboard down in addition to drain pan, prior to Fumoto valve install.
Haha! Great idea man!
Great Video!
Thank you!
Great content 👌 thanks a lot
So a question. How/where do you legally (environment fairly) dispose of the drained oil?
Most auto parts stores! Advanced auto has a tank you can dump it into for free. Or you can take it to your local dump and they'll recycle it for you.
Is that some winter tires on the shelf behind you? Smart man.
Yessir!
What prevents that new drain plug from opening up if road debris hits it ? That would worry me personally.
It takes some effort to open and turn. It fits in a notch that has to be pulled up and over to turn. They do make another clip you can add for added security if concerned!
Thanks for that T-WRX. Given it is a forester, you may go off-road and so there is a chance a rock could knock off the Fumoto Oil Drain valve and drop your oil - good way to kill motor - I might just put up with putting a sheet of cardboard down to catch drips from oil changes me thinks.
Yeah it could be risky if you are an off roader! That being said it doesn't hang that low. I don't do really any major off road stuff so I am not too worried about it!
I know I'm late but it's very hard to accidentally open the valve, plus they have a $3 safety clip for extra protection if you are uneasy.
@@superduperkid3143 I'm late as well. I actually bought the valve shortly after buying my '17 XT but was then persuaded by two separate fellas I trust (one a Subie authorized mechanic and one a hard-core enthusiast) not to install the thing. I've still got it but at the end of the day there's a still a chance that thing could fail, be from impact or some other (exceptionally unlikely) happening and there goes your oil... There's simply no way that can happen with a plug. The new fozzie's oil changes are so easy compared to most anyhow that I chose to just leave it be, bought a pack of 20 crush washers and I'm good for years.
Thanks!
anyone here has use the amazon brand synthetic oil? just curious
hey man, you think you can make a "cost of ownership" video on your sti anytime soon? I know its practically brand new still but I like many others are in a position to buy an sti but are still on the fence about any special maintenance that has to be done on an sti as opposed to the wrx. Would greatly appreciate it
bb65346 sure man! I can do that!
awesome!!!!
Get a good oil extractor and you will never need to get under your car for oil changes. Don't listen to the critics, you can get every last drop with an extractor if you do it right. Been using one for years with some top mount oil filter cars i have had in the past (VW's, BMW, Audi, Subaru)....I wish Honda would go top mount!
I've seen those before but never used them. They go down the dip stick hole? Which model are you using?
Yes. I have the Pela Pro14. Not a drop of oil spilled. BTW, my dad (age 85) just got a 2017 XT Touring. It's awesome!!
J Fazzuoli sir that 85 years young..
Have used a Pela pump for years.
When I first used it I would take off the drain plug to see how much was left behind - typically about 10ml would dribble out so I just use the pump now.
I got a subaru 2016 and its recommended oil is w-20 don't they supposed to be using the same grade of oil?
Is yours an XT?
Would you recommend buying forester than the crv? I'm down to this two cars and would like to hear it from owners perspective. Good video btw.
I really like the turbo option of the forester, but the CRV is a great car!
from what I see the Sti doesn't have a top mount oil filter. do you know why that is?
It does not, its still the old EJ motor!
How do you like the power and handling for the Forester XT? Space? I've got a regular Impreza and it is really underpowered. Looking for something with some driving fun factor and more space for the family and outdoors.
We love the FXT so far! It's definitely not a sports car, but for a small SUV its very sporty. I did a pretty indepth review/interior overview if you want to check it out. The space is really good for us, but I did put the roof basket on for more cargo!
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I love the FXT '17, plenty of power, and handles pretty well. Could use a sway bar.
Is the Fumoto Valve going to be the same for the 2018 as the '17? Fumoto's sight does not have 2018 as an option yet.
I bought the '17 Fumoto for the '18 Forester; it fits, perfectly.
I wish you would of showed how to find your engine size and the number of quarts it uses. I have a 2016 Forester and have the dealer change my oil at a 100 bucks a wack.. This time I bought an extra quart of oil so I know what it takes. It calls for 0-20W. I'm like you, I want to start pulling the maintence myself not only to save money, but to do a better job. This is my first Subaru and need to learn about it. Are there any tips on rotating the tires? Do's or more importantly don'ts
Thanks
Hey man, thanks for the notes. This is a hard thing to manage actually, some people need a lot of info and need the granular level details like this and others want only the big items because they get annoyed hearing about the small items they already know. Anyway, regarding the tire rotation, you can do it yourself with the tools in your trunk (preferably use a torque wrench though). I usually use the spare tire so I can just do one wheel at a time!
Good advice, thanks guy !
Off topic but how is the CVT transmission doing so far? Too bad they dropped the manual.
CVT has been good so far. No issues. I was playing with the paddles some tonight and they are basically useless, but as DD duty it does just fine!
Great video.
Thank you!
What happens when you drive over something and it opens your oil drain valve and you don't know?
Haha its possible, but highly unlikely. They also sell another clip that holds the lever in place if you are extra concerned!
I use Amsoil Signature series 0w20. I was using subaru filter, going to Amsoil filter. That new drain plug void any warranty?
No, you can't void a warranty unless they can prove the part you installed caused the issue.
T-WRX any problems with since? I have a 2015 impreza was worried about a stick hitting it and losing my oil.
Nope, just did another oil change this weekend. I did a video that shows it is actually not sticking down past the subframe etc if you are intereste, on the forester though... Made the oil change super easy!
I bought mine (2017XT) a few months after Chuck did - used Subaru oil for the first 2 or 3 changes. Since then I've been running Amsoil XL 5w30. Been doing great. Also use the Amsoil filters. (This was at recommendation by the local Subie guru garage - everyone within 50 miles brings their Subie's to Eddie and his guys.) :)
Basically Just 1Gal and 1QT engine oil (I use Rotella FTW) instead of 2?
You'll need 1 Gal plus 2 QT's, its like 5.4 QTs or similar!
Is there any safety precaution I need to take after I installed the valve? Is there a chance that the valve will accidentally flip on to cause a leak?
If you are concerned about the valve opening they sell a separate safety clip for like $5 as an extra precaution. I didn't buy one, I've never heard of one opening by accident.
thanks for the reply :)
Do you have an estimate for the price difference between doing an oil change yourself versus going to the dealer? I assume your reasoning is more than just price, but I'm curious how much you spend on materials for each oil change.
I honestly don't know what the dealer charges for oil changes? But this should cost you less than $60 for the oil and filter even if you buy the parts from the dealer. You probably save like $20 or something for a full synthetic oil change, but mostly the peace of mind and the enjoyment of doing it yourself!
Thinking about buying one of these next October and retiring my old Cadillac, but I'm a cheapskate, is the 2.5 a good motor?
2.5 is a good motor, its just more boring and slow. Makes it seem like every other small SUV, the XT as a nice punch. Still a great car though, excellent AWD, decent interior, great space.
Coming from a 32 year old Cadillac with an anemic 4.1L V8 I don't think I'll have an issue, it's more horsepower than I have, which is 139, so It'll be quicker since it's lighter. The CVT will take some getting used to though.
This is really interesting to know. Did you see any difference between the color of the oil from used to new? Your engine compartment is really clean. I can see your Subi is loved. GG dude! Whats next for your Forester?
Thanks man, I love all my cars and try to keep them tidy! Not sure for the forester, I have some interior LED's that need to go in, but not sure past that. Maybe a clear bra for the hood?
Oh btw, I didn't notice a huge difference in the oil besides the color obviously. But overall it seemed ok. I've had no burning issues thus far!
In hind sight, knowing what you know now about your Forester, would you have changed your oil earlier/same time/later than what you did?
MrMinecraftAtlantis My plan is to stick to around 4k miles per change. We'll be keeping this car most likely 100k+ miles so I'm ok to spend a little more in caution and keep things nice and clean! I think it as ok at 5k and subaru recommends 6k, but 4k is my happy place I think,
Use Amsoil!! You will notice the difference.
great job
Thanks!
Is there any risk of something from the road hitting the Fumoto lever causing the oil to dump!?!?
I would be to scared of something like a small branch dumping the oil with that fancy valve. A normal oil plug isn't hard to take out every 5000 miles.
Of course there is some risk. I've never heard of one opening though. Its not easy to turn and it has to be lifted to be turned. They sell an additional plastic clip for anyone really worried.
the lever is spring loaded and seats into a square notch so it can't slide into open position. if anything from the road causes it to open, it would have to be some hand reaching from under the ground or something
I have 2015 forester xt no eyesight How u like your 2017 forester
So far we love it!
That drain valve sure would make things way easier but I guess I'm to worried somehow it will open on me while I'm driving or something will catch on and make it open and so bye bye engine.
Karnage543 they sell a clip to keep it closed if you want the extra security! Also it's not the lowest point, if it catches on something there will be a lot more than oil missing! But I hear your concerns!
I have a 04 Forester so the drain plug is much closer to the ground. Covered by a plastic shield but I still worry lol. I didn't know about the clip tho, I'll have to look into that. Thanks.
What size wrench did you use to tighten the Fumoto valve? Thanks!!
You can use a large crescent wrench. Its a square valve so a hex socket wont fit on it.
Thanks man. Performing my first-ever oil change (own a 14 NA Forester) and will be installing one of these to make subsequent oil changes easier. As a newb to basic car maintenance I appreciate videos like these.
Glad it was helpful! Good luck man!
How much oil did it take to top it off, after you ran it Chuck ?
I put it right at 5.5 quarts! Book says 5.4 qts for oil/filter change.